@lou davey no. Its because something in the relationship wasn't working out and he cheated not saying its okay but there's always a reason. Maybe the reason you literally stated above were why? And you should talk to him instead of being a snake and stooping to such a low level. Relationships are all based on communication..
@@julien5664 what a bull, he always can talk and comunicate with her if he feel the relationship is failing, cheating is never be solution, cheating is also a snake behaviour,
My late partner and I were in a monogamous relationship for 18 years. There was never any question of it being any other way. Neither of us would have ever hurt the other's feelings by being unfaithful. Faithfulness was part of the way we expressed our love for each other. I have no disrespect for those who choose to be in an open relationship. It is just not for me.Might open relationships, etc. be a by-product of the hook-up culture? I don't know...
I'm not religious. I'm monogamous, 50, gay and have been in the same relationship for 20 years (we are married). I'm not against the idea of open relationships. It's just not for me.
Wanting an open relationship doesn't make someone toxic. People who are monogamous can be toxic. Anyone can. There are guys who want monogamy you just got to look for them
Idk why some guys just can't stay single if they wanna experience sexual experiences...its fucking annoying..like holy fuck. It makes me lose hope in gay relationships.
I'm not in an open relationship and we are happy. We still want to have sex with each other after 5 years. Being faithful, monogamous is also our way to show our love and respect.
I've been with my partner for 36 years. We have been monogamous the whole time. I would never be with someone who doesn't want monogamy. Sex bonds two people. If you are not monogamous then any fight or arguement could easily turn into hurting the other person by having sex with someone else. You also do not have to act on every impulse. Monogamy bonds you. If not then you're just friends living together. The throuples are a load of crap. Its fraught with peril. If someone really loves and respects you then it's a commitment that transcends acting out on sexual impulses. I don't see open relationships as true couples. They are friends who live together and have sex with other people. It's a cop out on commitment.
With a HOLIER THAN THOU attitude like that, I doubt anyone would want to be with you. Get off your high horse! Anyone can also say that "I don't see _____ relationships as true couples". But who cares? Live your life and let live. No one is forcing you to be in open relationships but you don't have to be a prick about it. Commitment can express itself in different ways and whether they exist is irrelevant of your opinion. Those relationships are still living their lives in spite of your puerile words, whether you like it or not.
I hear many men (Gay and Straight) claim that they “need” to have multiple sex partners, whether they’re in a relationship or not. I ask, “Is that an actual need, or is a behavior that we have tried to justify, based off a story that we have created in our minds, based off our individual experiences and beliefs?” There’s a serious lack of self-control and willingness to sacrifice. Plus, I DISagree about the idea that monogamy is unnatural. Like, what makes being non-monogamous so natural?
It’s not a love relationship. If you love someone they satisfy you in every way. No need to want or bring someone else in. Open relationships are glorified fuck buddies
Anyone can be in any type of relationship that works for them. But let’s not pretend that there isn’t a growing sentiment in the LGBT community that monogamy is bad. Yes, I know all the judgment someone who is an open relationship gets, but the response to that seems to be to pressure others to be open as well. I actually think a lot of the same people who have these extreme issues with monogamy also have issues with marriage. And that’s fine but let’s not make that the whole talking point about it. And let’s talk about our very unhealthy and mentally taxing sex culture for gay men. Gay men are encouraged to have tons of sex with multiple partners and when they choose to pick one, get married, and (gasp) have children these same types see that as a threat to gay male culture. No one is saying monogamy for is everyone; but a lot of people are saying monogamy is oppressive which sounds just like a bunch of mental issues surrounding monogamy. For me personally, having multiple partners sounds like too much work. But if it works for someone else all the power to them. Let’s not make this a contest of which is better. Cause that delegates all people to thinking the same; which is just boring at the end of the day and exhausting.
Can you actually point to data or evidence to anything you're saying such as the apparent "growing sentiment in the LGBT community that monogamy is bad"? Last I recall, non-monogamous relationships have been practiced by hundreds if not millennia across different cultures. I guess the concept of polygamy was invested just yesterday (sarcasm). And mormons just came to exitance today. Wow, but let's hold gay people responsible... what scapegoat issue do you need to fix next?
and you love to bring " very unhealthy and mentally taxing sex culture for gay men" without mentioning the context and weight of history. Cause gay people were allowed to get married all along... But hey, keep on throwing stones for I am so sure you are without sin.
@@huitzilopochtli2872 first of all, I’m gay. Second of all, I never indicated once that gay men are responsible for anything. Third of all, evidence? This isn’t a scientific experiment but a cultural shift. Never said having multiple partners was bad. I’m just saying more and more LGBT people seem to be associating monogamy with being “straight,” as though that’s a bad thing. Just look at any discussion panel on gay relationships and the topic continuously comes up with reference to how more and more people need to be “open-minded” to it. I never once disparaged people who have multiple partners; I’m simply noticing a trend that starting to form. And yes, people surprisingly will do something just because there peers are. Of course polygamy has exist since the beginning of time; I’m just taking notice how people are some now relating monogamy to a system of “oppression,” which is such a insane comparison of the too. And frankly, you can disagree with me, but coming and trying to say my take is crap cause I haven’t presented any “evidence,” come on… what is this court? It’s just something has become more apparent in gay culture than was before. Not having multiple partners, but this animosity toward anything that is perceived as not being “queer.” Chill out.
“First of all, I am gay” ... Yea... we’re gonna need you to please provide evidence or some type of source on that? Works cited? Or is this just another “observation” of yours and we just have to take your word for it?
I think they also judge gay guys who don’t “play the role“. Like where you can’t tell they’re gay on first impression. It makes sense though now, like you said they see it as a threat. I am gay too though btw
A pithy society columnist once irreverently observed that monogamy is what one person in every closed relationship thinks they have. Joking aside, I’m always amazed, but never surprised, at the extreme range of emotional responses this topic triggers. We suddenly become toxically judgmental and dogmatic, as if every other couple’s choices somehow threaten or even impact us. We all have to live our own lives as we see fit. I don’t personally care if another couple is open or closed, as long as they are genuinely happy, and I’ve known couples who are miserable and happy in both scenarios.
BS This is another panel promoting open relationships. It's very different having sex with other people in a 20-year-old relationship and very different demanding your partner be open to an open relatiosnhip at the the three month mark. F@gz are just trying desperately to justify their immaturity and their lack of relationship skills. Not even once in any of my relationships has my partner suggested the relationship be open, even when jokingly I would suggest it. Maybe it's the partners I invest in or me, but open relatiosnhips right on the getgo? D U M B Being in a ten year relationship and sleeping around once in a while. Maybe.
Re: "Monogamy is a religious thing" Um... no it is not. That's such a Eurocentric way of looking at the humanity. Most cultures East and West have evolved to produce monogamy as a default. It's good that open relationships are now socially acceptable for people who want that. But we shouldn't pretend that monogamy is unnatural or imposed by judeo christianity. It's not even hard to see what's wrong with that.
Why are open relationships being push down are throats ?? not all gay couples what tobe in a open relationships ... if your looking to sleep with and have sex with other people stay single... your husband boyfriend lover you all can talk to the cows come home thing happen in open relationships and know matter what they say once you have sex with someone thing chang .
The only guys I can relate to are the older masculine men on the panel. However, this is an interesting topic. Seems sooo many guys are pushing this whole polyamory BS.
This was a great video. I love that your talking about this. My partner and I are 28 years apart I'm 63 he's 35. We have been together 16 years. We love each other very must we are open. Being he is so young, I wanted him to enjoy all he wanted to. In the 16 years he has been with a few guys. Some times we play together and and some time we don't. We have met a lot of great people. It fun but we sleep with each other only. Sex is just fun.
Being in a monogamous for 15 years means i am not self confident according to these guys. If you can't control your sexual appetite it's OK, but do not judge the ones like us that control it and are happy
This is the biggest crock of you know what I have seen regarding this topic. The issue that none of these dudes seem to address is that people in open relationships are sleeves balls can’t keep there. You know what in their pants and are completely selfish. Not to mention they don’t havemorals, and they also have loose boundaries. I would never be in a relationship with anyone like this.
If you want something thats going to last long term open relationships rarely work...and by long term i dont mean 2 years. I mean long term...decades/life.
My partner and I have opened our relationship recently. Not for the sake that we just want sex but because we are both experimental and both want to try something fun and mess around while we still can. We are committed to eachother and, in truth, really don't plan on keeping it open for incredibly long. Eventually it'll probably boil down to a threesome with a close friend every now and then, we really just mutually don't care for the jealousy and religiousness that surrounds monogamy. If you like monogamy that's on you. enjoy it, enjoy that part of your life. Be the person YOU want to be, but don't try and invalidate other people's love just because it isn't yours. It isn't cheating if both people enjoy it
Never been a fan of open relationships. I am 33 years monogamous and could not be happier .
Love this.
@lou davey no. Its because something in the relationship wasn't working out and he cheated not saying its okay but there's always a reason. Maybe the reason you literally stated above were why? And you should talk to him instead of being a snake and stooping to such a low level. Relationships are all based on communication..
@@julien5664 what a bull, he always can talk and comunicate with her if he feel the relationship is failing, cheating is never be solution, cheating is also a snake behaviour,
@lou davey thanks
Thank God there is still amazing guy out there like you, i hate when people look down on mono relationship, i hope you have wonderful life
My late partner and I were in a monogamous relationship for 18 years. There was never any question of it being any other way. Neither of us would have ever hurt the other's feelings by being unfaithful. Faithfulness was part of the way we expressed our love for each other. I have no disrespect for those who choose to be in an open relationship. It is just not for me.Might open relationships, etc. be a by-product of the hook-up culture? I don't know...
This was beautiful. I love all gay love but it's nice to hear more stories about couples who have chosen to monogamy as a good fit for them
Love that, thank you for sharing
I am 24 and i was always monogamous.
Better alone than in open relationship.
So true
Dude, I was literally thinking the same thing!
I agree
my idea is you can't have both, I love my partner and open relationships are just an idea that have everything not for me
I'm not religious. I'm monogamous, 50, gay and have been in the same relationship for 20 years (we are married). I'm not against the idea of open relationships. It's just not for me.
PERIODt and there's NOTHIN else to talk about neither haha
i hate guys like this. i don’t even talk to guys anymore cause so many are toxic. i don’t want to share, periodt.
I'm faithful. Try me 😝
@@mastersuperblaster702 when guys say that they usually arent.
Wanting an open relationship doesn't make someone toxic. People who are monogamous can be toxic. Anyone can. There are guys who want monogamy you just got to look for them
Same here I feels u
Idk why some guys just can't stay single if they wanna experience sexual experiences...its fucking annoying..like holy fuck. It makes me lose hope in gay relationships.
I'm not in an open relationship and we are happy. We still want to have sex with each other after 5 years. Being faithful, monogamous is also our way to show our love and respect.
Apps are aweful.
It's really sad how many people are getting STIs and hearts broken.
There’s a lot of hidden addiction in sex that’s unaddressed in the gay community aside to the spoiled momma boy issues
I've been with my partner for 36 years. We have been monogamous the whole time. I would never be with someone who doesn't want monogamy. Sex bonds two people. If you are not monogamous then any fight or arguement could easily turn into hurting the other person by having sex with someone else. You also do not have to act on every impulse. Monogamy bonds you. If not then you're just friends living together. The throuples are a load of crap. Its fraught with peril. If someone really loves and respects you then it's a commitment that transcends acting out on sexual impulses. I don't see open relationships as true couples. They are friends who live together and have sex with other people. It's a cop out on commitment.
With a HOLIER THAN THOU attitude like that, I doubt anyone would want to be with you. Get off your high horse! Anyone can also say that "I don't see _____ relationships as true couples". But who cares? Live your life and let live. No one is forcing you to be in open relationships but you don't have to be a prick about it. Commitment can express itself in different ways and whether they exist is irrelevant of your opinion. Those relationships are still living their lives in spite of your puerile words, whether you like it or not.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I hear many men (Gay and Straight) claim that they “need” to have multiple sex partners, whether they’re in a relationship or not.
I ask, “Is that an actual need, or is a behavior that we have tried to justify, based off a story that we have created in our minds, based off our individual experiences and beliefs?”
There’s a serious lack of self-control and willingness to sacrifice. Plus, I DISagree about the idea that monogamy is unnatural. Like, what makes being non-monogamous so natural?
What makes nonmonogamous so natural?
Sexual desire.
It’s not a love relationship. If you love someone they satisfy you in every way. No need to want or bring someone else in. Open relationships are glorified fuck buddies
Anyone can be in any type of relationship that works for them. But let’s not pretend that there isn’t a growing sentiment in the LGBT community that monogamy is bad. Yes, I know all the judgment someone who is an open relationship gets, but the response to that seems to be to pressure others to be open as well. I actually think a lot of the same people who have these extreme issues with monogamy also have issues with marriage. And that’s fine but let’s not make that the whole talking point about it. And let’s talk about our very unhealthy and mentally taxing sex culture for gay men. Gay men are encouraged to have tons of sex with multiple partners and when they choose to pick one, get married, and (gasp) have children these same types see that as a threat to gay male culture. No one is saying monogamy for is everyone; but a lot of people are saying monogamy is oppressive which sounds just like a bunch of mental issues surrounding monogamy. For me personally, having multiple partners sounds like too much work. But if it works for someone else all the power to them. Let’s not make this a contest of which is better. Cause that delegates all people to thinking the same; which is just boring at the end of the day and exhausting.
Can you actually point to data or evidence to anything you're saying such as the apparent "growing sentiment in the LGBT community that monogamy is bad"? Last I recall, non-monogamous relationships have been practiced by hundreds if not millennia across different cultures. I guess the concept of polygamy was invested just yesterday (sarcasm). And mormons just came to exitance today. Wow, but let's hold gay people responsible... what scapegoat issue do you need to fix next?
and you love to bring " very unhealthy and mentally taxing sex culture for gay men" without mentioning the context and weight of history. Cause gay people were allowed to get married all along... But hey, keep on throwing stones for I am so sure you are without sin.
@@huitzilopochtli2872 first of all, I’m gay. Second of all, I never indicated once that gay men are responsible for anything. Third of all, evidence? This isn’t a scientific experiment but a cultural shift. Never said having multiple partners was bad. I’m just saying more and more LGBT people seem to be associating monogamy with being “straight,” as though that’s a bad thing. Just look at any discussion panel on gay relationships and the topic continuously comes up with reference to how more and more people need to be “open-minded” to it. I never once disparaged people who have multiple partners; I’m simply noticing a trend that starting to form. And yes, people surprisingly will do something just because there peers are. Of course polygamy has exist since the beginning of time; I’m just taking notice how people are some now relating monogamy to a system of “oppression,” which is such a insane comparison of the too. And frankly, you can disagree with me, but coming and trying to say my take is crap cause I haven’t presented any “evidence,” come on… what is this court? It’s just something has become more apparent in gay culture than was before. Not having multiple partners, but this animosity toward anything that is perceived as not being “queer.” Chill out.
“First of all, I am gay” ...
Yea... we’re gonna need you to please provide evidence or some type of source on that? Works cited? Or is this just another “observation” of yours and we just have to take your word for it?
I think they also judge gay guys who don’t “play the role“. Like where you can’t tell they’re gay on first impression. It makes sense though now, like you said they see it as a threat.
I am gay too though btw
A pithy society columnist once irreverently observed that monogamy is what one person in every closed relationship thinks they have. Joking aside, I’m always amazed, but never surprised, at the extreme range of emotional responses this topic triggers. We suddenly become toxically judgmental and dogmatic, as if every other couple’s choices somehow threaten or even impact us. We all have to live our own lives as we see fit. I don’t personally care if another couple is open or closed, as long as they are genuinely happy, and I’ve known couples who are miserable and happy in both scenarios.
BS
This is another panel promoting open relationships.
It's very different having sex with other people in a 20-year-old relationship and very different demanding your partner be open to an open relatiosnhip at the the three month mark.
F@gz are just trying desperately to justify their immaturity and their lack of relationship skills.
Not even once in any of my relationships has my partner suggested the relationship be open, even when jokingly I would suggest it.
Maybe it's the partners I invest in or me, but open relatiosnhips right on the getgo?
D U M B
Being in a ten year relationship and sleeping around once in a while. Maybe.
Re: "Monogamy is a religious thing"
Um... no it is not. That's such a Eurocentric way of looking at the humanity.
Most cultures East and West have evolved to produce monogamy as a default. It's good that open relationships are now socially acceptable for people who want that. But we shouldn't pretend that monogamy is unnatural or imposed by judeo christianity.
It's not even hard to see what's wrong with that.
A lot of men in the gay community or like this if you want to fool around with other people why even be in a relationship.
Amen
Monogamy should be a response. It should be natural not expected.
It's hard to be in a relationship when your bf is constantly on grinder looking for hookups.
open relationship is great between gay adult stars or rent boys
Why are open relationships being push down are throats ?? not all gay couples what tobe in a open relationships ... if your looking to sleep with and have sex with other people stay single... your husband boyfriend lover you all can talk to the cows come home thing happen in open relationships and know matter what they say once you have sex with someone thing chang .
The only guys I can relate to are the older masculine men on the panel. However, this is an interesting topic. Seems sooo many guys are pushing this whole polyamory BS.
@TheGhostWithin Open relationships are BS. Stop sleazin and stick with your man.
If we'll end up together, i would prefer monogamous relationship ❤️
let me get in a relationship first
This was a great video. I love that your talking about this. My partner and I are 28 years apart I'm 63 he's 35. We have been together 16 years. We love each other very must we are open. Being he is so young, I wanted him to enjoy all he wanted to. In the 16 years he has been with a few guys. Some times we play together and and some time we don't. We have met a lot of great people. It fun but we sleep with each other only. Sex is just fun.
Nope, not for me, whatever you say, nope
Being in a monogamous for 15 years means i am not self confident according to these guys. If you can't control your sexual appetite it's OK, but do not judge the ones like us that control it and are happy
I love how they say "the app." if you know you know 😂
This is the biggest crock of you know what I have seen regarding this topic. The issue that none of these dudes seem to address is that people in open relationships are sleeves balls can’t keep there. You know what in their pants and are completely selfish. Not to mention they don’t havemorals, and they also have loose boundaries. I would never be in a relationship with anyone like this.
If you want something thats going to last long term open relationships rarely work...and by long term i dont mean 2 years. I mean long term...decades/life.
I don´t how people speak about open relationships if gay guys don´t even want to date anymore
I will always be monogamous open relationships isn't for me personally
Older guy in black top is hot
Great topic to discuss it’s very interesting.
Damn, so much judgment in the comments
Y'all can't be monogamous of you're a man who loves men 😊 because gamy refers to wives specifically
Mmmmm The guy With Black Long Sleeve Shirt So Freakin HOT 🤤
The guy sitting next to him wearing glasses is cute.
My partner and I have opened our relationship recently. Not for the sake that we just want sex but because we are both experimental and both want to try something fun and mess around while we still can. We are committed to eachother and, in truth, really don't plan on keeping it open for incredibly long. Eventually it'll probably boil down to a threesome with a close friend every now and then, we really just mutually don't care for the jealousy and religiousness that surrounds monogamy. If you like monogamy that's on you. enjoy it, enjoy that part of your life. Be the person YOU want to be, but don't try and invalidate other people's love just because it isn't yours. It isn't cheating if both people enjoy it
Basically you guys are committed to sleaze around.