@@jamesrowe5431 No. It's a backup incase the restraint where to ever fail and if it did, the seat belt would hold the restraint in place. Safety is a theme parks main priority so the rides are very very safe to ride much safer than carnivals etc.
@@jamesrowe5431 it's not about the theme park, ask the actual company itself. Yes it does make you feel safe but that's not the only reason. It's also used to judge whether the person is the right size to go on the ride incase they're too big.
The seatbelt is just a precaution in case the primary locks fail, which is like one in a billion. Seatbelts fail all the time, it isn't that uncommon. Now if the primary locks have failed and she would only have the seatbelt to secure herself, that would be scary.
Hidious Vanity no the seatbelt is only to give the passengers a feeling of safety... they have no technical function^^... the primary locks cant fail, they are multiple locked... ;) sorry for my english
Lets Explore That didn't happen. Nemesis is a Bolliger and Mabillard coaster, and Alton is a top quality park. There has never been any accident on a B&M coaster and never a serious accident at Alton. You are either lying or just mistaken.
Lets Explore Their are many locks on the seats, so one lock failing cannot cause a malfunction. Each seat has many sensors for every lock, which are monitored. It is how they know if one restraint isn't fully down before the ride is sent forth.
@@furiousgoesboom Easy, restraints don't just "come lose". Firstly, the belts only serve 2 possible purposes. 1: To give guests peace of mind, so so it's purely psychological. 2: To indicate if a guest is too large. If the belt won't reach, the restraint won't be secure. On many rides you don't see any belts at all, even on fast and powerful inverting coasters. Restraints are built to withstand tremendous force, far bigger than belts can. If anything happens to rip a restraint off (afaik, this has never happened and probably never will), the belt will do nothing to help. Secondly, almost all restraints are made to only unlock at the station, either mechanically or via an electric charge. This makes it impossible for them to accidentally come lose, since they need to physically be at the station for anything to happen. This is why coasters that get stuck on a hill still has working restraints that still keep guests safe. Even during a failure on track, the restraints never unlock by accident. Of course there are exceptions. Some very few old trains have outdated restraints and there have been occasions where they come somewhat loose during a ride due to mechanical failures. But they're allowed to still be in use because the ride isn't forceful enough to throw someone out of their seats anyways. And most often when a failure of this kind happens, it gets reported and the train gets modified or upgraded. The ride in the video definitively isn't a vintage ride, it's modern enough to have a secure restraint that won't come lose. I've so far only found one video of a lap bar in an old train coming loose, unless it was faked. I hope this made you less scared and more trusting of roller coaster restraints. There are videos that explain this far better with visual aids, you'll find them easily if you search for them. Have a nice day.
@@furiousgoesboom obviously you're gp. no, its not on every coaster, but its on most popular coasters in parks that draw large crowds, its to make the riders feel more secure, even though its not needed. like how over the shoulder restraints are not needed, unless the ride has a rocking/ spinning like element on the cars
@@furiousgoesboom it's for measuring, if the seat belt can't close the person is too large for the ride, if it closes it means that the restraints were able to lock. If it came undone after the measurement it's alright, all of the accidents with open restraints it was the fault of the ride operator that didn't identify that the restraint wasn't locked and it didn't lock because the person was too large, these seatbelts are supposed to avoid the issue of people larger than the restraints can handle riding
One major accident in almost 40 years of theme park operation is an almost impeccable safety record. Nobody has died there since it became a theme park, plus the one accident they had was human error
Tbh it doesn't really matter. It's horrible what happened to them but there's no way around it, Alton have a nearly perfect safety record. Multiple people have died at Disney, I guess that place is unsafe too?
No, no you won't. You'd have to be something along those lines to think Alton Towers is unsafe because of one accident caused _by human error_, nothing to do with the ride at all, by a worker who no longer works there, and especially with all the new imo, some unnecessary safety precautions put in.
But that clip essentially is only a backup because your harness isnt going to unlock she had nothing to be worried about but i can understand how scary it must be
Exactly... The conpant that makes this, B&M have never had a restraint failure or really any major mechanical failure at all... Freaking out over the seatbelt (which isn't made by B&M) is compeltely uneccesary
"He's laughing. What a prick." Yes. Because the ride was over and she was safe, and no harm was done so he decided to laugh at a HARMLESS moment when they were SAFE
My friend literally took his seatbelt off as soon as he got out of the station, which shows just how much of an irrelevant piece of the restraining system is to have a seatbelt, and that it is only their for the rider to feel safer, even though they already are as safe as you can possibly be
Yeah there’s a ride called vertigo it’s a booster ride travelling around Britain and at hull the seatbelt came Undone but they still had the over the shoulder restraints like this ride it’s that irrelevant the operators that care about them coming undone as there not important but some mum put in on the news saying how the staff take no care and that her kids or most died and she never coming back some people don’t Understand there not important if the rider can undo them their self it’s never important
@@someoneout-there2165 Main restraint failure is so uncommon I wasn't able to find a single example. It just doesn't happen. All accidents I have found are due to park staff negligence and stupidity of riders.
To those saying something along the lines of "omg she could have fallen out" and/or "terrible theme park - not very well maintained", It's a fucking seatbelt which acts as a SECONDARY safety precaution. There is almost ZERO chance of the main over-the-shoulder harness from failing (way over 1 in the hundreds of millions) That belt is only there to keep the main harness at a reasonable distance to the rider should the almost impossible happen - even if the main harness and belt failed, as long as she held on, the G's exerted on the car would have even kept it down for most of the ride regardless.
"It would have even kept it down for most of the ride regardless"? WTF! How about ALL THE RIDE, numb nuts! I would never ride there again! EVER! And I would have slapped the living hell out of that guy laughing!!!!!!
xx_emma_xx you start. you go up an 100ft incline lift hill. you take a left turn. you slow down as you reach the brink. you stop on the edge. you fall 100ft and then enter the tunnel. the tunnel continues 80ft but levels out in the process. the ride comes out of the exit tunnel at high speed. it goes into a left banked turn. it goes up another sloped hill. it enters the break run. the ride returns to the station.
Many people are saying the belt is just a fail safe but it’s actually not only that and is primarily to act as a physical verification that the restraint is closed the minimum amount
It's a second layer of safety. The overhead restraint locks too! It can be undone by the rider. If it was critical, they wouldn't make it so you could undo it yourself.
Yes I have. I have been on many rollercoasters. I have been on many where the restraint moved some, but I have also been on some with restraints that didn't lock. The sad truth is that not all amusement parks care about our safety as much as they do about money. I have traveled to many parks to test the safety measures, and then write up reports about them.
Melisa Messman One wrongful death suit can lead to a park being forced to both pay out vast sums of money, AND destroy the ride. They care about safety.
Docktor Jim I know there are many parks that do care about our safety. I said not all amusement parks care, I did not say they are all the same way. Although you are correct that a death can cause a ruling to pay and destroy the ride, it does not always turn out that way. Look it up and you will find there are many parks with active coasters that have a body count. I wish it was not the case, but it is becoming an all too common truth.
This roller coaster is called Oblivion. It opened in 1998 as the world's first dive coaster. It is manufactured by Bolliger and Mabillard of Switzerland. What's special about B&M? Well, only that they have a PERFECT safety record. That's right. Their first coaster was built in 1990 and not one of their coasters has failed. Now a seatbelt on this type of roller coaster is a secondary safety device, as well as a measuring device (if it doesn't close the rider is too big). The harness on B&M's rides will not, and I mean WILL NOT come undone. Even if the seatbelt was not there, if the restraint locks, it STAYS locked. There is absolutely a 0% chance that this woman would have fallen out. Zero. Percent. So stop saying "ohhh she could have died." Because she couldn't have.
Turtle Butt 1. Why is this a reply to my comment rather than just a general comment and 2. There is about a 0.00001% chance that her restraints would fail. The seatbelt is only the backup in case that rare occurrence happens.
True here in germany i have never ridden a single roller coaster that had one. I didn't even know that some roller coasters have one until a few weeks ago.
The only point that belt serves is when there is a critical failure in the locking mechanism in the harness and it unlocks mid ride. Which is highly unlikely. The chances of the belt AND harness failing at the same time are almost astronomical.
Monxer no its wrong... the seatbelt are just for the feeling of safeness, they have no function ;) its nearly impossible that the locking mechanism fails, its locked mechanically... if the locks fails (just happend a few times in the last 100 years) there are g forces up to 600 kilogramms on a rollercoaster and the belt would break... its not a belt like in a car with a complex mechanism... sorry for my bad english...
T̶h̶e̶ s̶e̶a̶t̶ b̶e̶l̶t̶ s̶n̶a̶p̶p̶e̶d̶ s̶o̶ y̶o̶u̶ c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶'t̶ p̶l̶u̶g̶ i̶t̶ b̶a̶c̶k̶ i̶n̶. Edit: After looking closely, it indeed came loose, it did not snap. I was wrong.
That belt is only a measuring device. If you can’t get it to buckle, you’re too big and it isn’t safe to ride. That’s the only reason for it being there, not to keep you in if your harness “failed” which it never will due to there being a minimum of 11 different devices preventing a failure.
actually (yes it can be used as a measure device) but the seatbelt is for secondary protection incase the primary lock releases (which is extremely unlikely but it is possible) ~ enthusiast who has spoken about the subject to john wardley himself
It isn't just a measuring device it stops the riders fly out of the actual restraint but yes it has three reasons but the one I mentioned is very very very very very very very! Unlikely so mostly just used for measurements
It's a good thing that on roller coasters manufactured by B&M, that their seat belts are basically useless. The over the shoulder harness is locked into place. The seat belt is just a fail save.
You're very close! The real reason that B&Ms have those belts on there is because they are an easy reference for judging whether the rider is an appropriate size to ride or not. If the belt can't be buckled, the restraint hasn't been lowered enough and the rider is too large to ride. I suppose that they could catch the restraint if it were to somehow open, but that's incredibly unlikely and that's not why they are there.
I can confirm that she was in no real danger. My seatbelt came undone on a roller coaster called Georgia Scorcher on two separate occasions. That roller coaster goes upside down, and I was fine. The seatbelt doesn't actually hold the bar down, and if it did, you could see the belt stretched out, but in the video, the seatbelt is just dangling there.
Jade is telling the truth. The seatbelt is only there if the rare occasion the hydraulic lock fails. What actually happens is the workers usually plug a cable to let the body bars go up.
jeffgads Have you ever ridden a coaser where ther OTSR popped open? Funnily enough, it's happened to me on plenty of B&M coasters- the seat belt is there, as Davina has stated, to keep the lap bar down if it pops up. Seeing this happen on Oblivion makes me wonder if this is a feature of B&M's. Glad I'm an Intamin man.
Yeah the buckle doesn't do anything. The restraints are locked in the station and if the ride were to break down (let's just say on the lift hill) the ride ops would just walk up and unlock the restraints with a key and everyone would walk down. Yeah, it seems as if it's come a little lose but it hasn't. It only because the ride has tipped her and her whole body weight is left on the restraint and when she's flung back after the drop, it seems pretty lose. Trust me, I live like a mile away from Alton Towers and my mums been a ride operator up there. You are perfectly fine.
Actually, the buckle does do something very important. If the chest lock came undone, the seatbelt would be there to protect the body from completely slipping out. So don't go acting petite thinking you know a lot by using big words. Also, imagine if you were in her position. No doubt, you would've panicked too. Edit: Plus, if your mom actually was one, she should've taught you that seatbelts actually do, do something very important. So trust me honey, she could've gotten injured if the chest lock wasn't tight enough.
For those who don't know a seat belt doesn't hold down the harness and keep it from unlocking. The belt is just an extra safety option incase if the harness locks fail which is very very unlikely. The belt would not release the harness as when the harnesses are locked the train needs to be connected to the station for the operator to release the locks. So i understand why it would have been scary but no, it would have not made her life at risk :)
Everyone keeps on saying that it is only a backup belt but its really not that either, it is in fact a measuring device if you cannot put the belt in the buckle then you are too fat to ride its basically just a tester restraint to make sure riders can fit properly into the main restraint and it has nothing to do with holding riders in their seat it the woman was probably fiddling with it after being dispatched from the station and so she loosened it enough so that on the drop it came out
@@vinnamon i wrote that a year ago and now ive learned more about coaster seatbelts im actually 100% wrong. 1. the seatbelt is there like u said to make guests feel safer 2. it is there to check if riders can ride, if the seatbelt cant shut then you are to big to ride
It's nothing to be scared about. The seatbelts serve no purpose unless the harness actually malfunctions. Some roller coasters have harnesses only without seatbelts. It's just an extra precaution just incase the unthinkable happens.
Hey when I went on nemesis something like that happened the restraint lifted up when I was on the ride, the seatbelt was still in but it had lifted so far that I could fall out I was freaked!
One time I was riding a ride with a big loop on it and at the top of the loop I fell out but luckily I fell back into the coaster when it reached the bottom of the loop. I fell right back into the same seat I fell out of. I was so lucky.
The ride was OVER when she told him. I'm pretty sure he was laughing like OH SHIT! Thats crazy and maybe to calm her down she was laughing by the time she got off. And besides even if she did tell him what good is freaking out going to do??? Fk ppl are stupid.
Amen. The problem is that most people, when they see any action by any other person in the world ever (provided that they can't actually hear or see you), they have to immediately judge it in a negative way. It's one of those diseases that spread through the internet. I think the medical term for it is : Trollitis.
Have seen this video multiple times and wanted to clear up, the "safety" belt is a measuring device along with a proxy sensor inside the seat, if the belt can be buckled then the rider is within spec (size limits) to ride safely and the proxy sensor serves the same purpose but only used in the station for dispatch. In the video the belt unclipped and the harness stayed locked but the harness did skip a click as the carriage fell (you can tell when the harness is looser after than before) which is what shook the belt loose. But despite this the harnesses are designed (these specifically) where there are roughly 8 latches in pairs engaged so if one were to slip (maybe due to vibration) the other 6 are ready to catch the ratchet at the next groove which is why it stayed locked. Only if all 8 latches failed twice in a row would the harness fully open. Still abit nervy that it slipped but it can happen
Before you comment *If that was me I would sue the whole park,* the seat belt is useless, if it fails, nothing will happen, it's not like you will fall off
***** The restraint has two separate locking mechanisms. If one fails, the other will keep it locked and it won't come open. The chance of both failing at once is infinitesimally small. The belt is only a measurement device, it's a fixed length and can only reach the restraint once it's down far enough to lock properly.
Yeah used to watching people panic all the time when i worked in the industry, most overhead restraints have least 4 locking mechanisms, dual ratchet locking, hydraulic ram, sometimes an air ram as well (well maybe not roller coasters but other types of rides like top scans) and belt lock. Your more likely to die queuing for the ride than on the ride. also these are check every year in the UK for metal fatigue on the welds as well as other major parts
***** The belt is only there for size, its so that if someone cannot put the belt on then they basically are too big for the ride, this is a B&M manufactured ride and the restraints themselves are pretty much failsafe and will not unlock. i hope this cleared things up:)
"OMG HE'S LAUGHING THE ASSHOLE" > It came off in the middle, yes, but neither of them realised at the end. When he was laughing they were pulling into the platform to get back off... there was never any real danger. Regardless, there was no danger even if it hadn't never been buckled in the first place. You have locking mechanisms and physics to thank for that.
+Sheila Betonio Yes, but your lives aren't in danger! Hell, I wouldn't be laughing if my friend's safety harness had ACTUALLY COME UNDONE, but in this case it hadn't. The belt is only a secondary feature and is pretty much unnecessary (as is quite clear to anyone with half a brain cell). I'd be laughing, and if it happened to me my friends would be laughing. Once we got off the ride we'd all be laughing. Don't know how people manage to be friends with people who get butthurt over the slightest thing. Jeez.
OH, you know how people are so afraid of dying right? People want "multiple" safety features in their lives to survive whatever it is wrecking their lives. I think that goes to riding a roller coaster as well. What if it was her first time riding a roller coaster? Wouldn't you want to be AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE? It's not about HAVING A HALF BRAIN to understand it, it's about people's INSTINCT of surviving especially with all those adrenaline rushing through her brain! Well, I haven't ridden a roller coaster all my life nor would I ever ride one someday, so I guess my reaction would be the same as hers should my "secondary" safety belt got loose. Please bear with other people as some are not "half brainy" as you are.... :) Anyway, ciao boy, just chill!
Oh, they had probably just laughed it off after that! but we're talking about initial reaction, I'm talking about initial reaction :) Maybe I'd be scared at first but after that ride, I'd just probably laugh as well, as some other people who have a "HALF BRAIN CELL" as you described it! Why do people have to be a jerk and sooo insensitive to other people's feelings? JEEZ!
I rode the whole batman the ride and my seatbelt wasn't in (because they forgot to check it) it's just there it has no purpose it's just to make the ride seem safer when it's just as normal as a ride without seat belts for the harness
It's a backup safety mechanism. If the harness comes undone, as long as the seatbelt also doesn't become undone, you should be fine. The seatbelt is NOT cosmetic.
There's no such thing as "forgetting to check it." First off, every seatbelt composer for rides like that are trained to check TWICE that everyone's seatbelts are buckled. Second off, before you go saying that's not how it works, it actually IS because I've went there myself. Third off, think with the noggin your mother gave you before you go around lying with terrible excuses expecting people to actually believe you.
Just to clear everything up the seat belts are there to measure if the person is to fat to ride. they will snap if the restraint fails just like it did in the video.
Yeh, that's totaly right! If someone is maybe to fat to ride, they let their seat belt fail so that they think their gonna die but really they need to go on a diat! What is life?
Doesn't look like it broke. It wasn't locked in properly. Instead of throwing it aside... put it back in? It is a backup, but take it upon yourself to reattach it.
The belt is just to make you think you are safe , even if the belt did come off the thing you hold on to is locked down. (I asked a member of staff why there is a belt and they said its just for satisfaction)
The belt is actually a back-up safety device, so if the lock on the restraint fails, which is very unlikely, you can still remain safe because the restraint would be loose but you'd still be inside it.
i always grip the seat or look for something to hold on the seat itself forget the harnesses lol, the coasters that have no floors the seats are only held up by bolts lol
Exactly +Usman A, the belt prevents the shoulder restraint from flying up if the locks don't engage. Always check your seat belt yourself, don't rely on a teenager making minimum wage to do it for you.
+Tykira Jones They said their family no the individual themselves. I understand the point that you are trying to make but they are correct. Somewhere in their ancestry they'd have to have come from China though you do indeed make a valid point.
I was riding King Kong (I think that's the ride name) at Six Flags in California and the ride is built exactly like this one except your feet are hanging and my seat buckle clicked off and I freaking screamed bloody murder.... Luckily the seat belts on those type of rides are just a back up so I didn't die (obviously.)
The seat (The orange seat that is in the video) is LOCKED in place, so if the belt, that is in between your legs, breaks/snaps (which it shouldn't) or comes off the seat itself, you won't fall off, because of the orange seat of which keeps you safe. The evidence of this aswell, and you could see, before she went into the tunnel, her seat belt came un-done, she jerked forward, and her seat didn't even jerk forward with her- and the ride was still going, the seat was safely in place. ^^
It does a whole lot...if the harnesses unlocked the seat belts would be their to stop them from lifting up from running, if you understand mechanics of rides you would know
+FanOfVacuums2 some nowadays that don't have harnesses are electronic and won't need that sort of stuff as it is controlled but things like this has a belt as it is simply a lock so the belt is a extra safety caution :) don't think you can outsmart me
+FanOfVacuums2 yeh the reason why it doesn't have belts is because it's a vekoma corkscrew ride that have some sort of special restraint mechanism that doesn't need belts...I've been studying and learning about rides for a long time, don't judge people on what they say
Isaac Gamez I'm not judging you at all. Although different major coaster manufacturers have different mechanisms, one isn't any less safe than the other once they're lowered past a certain point. That's where the belts come into play. With that said, did you say that the Loch Ness Monster is a Vekoma Corkscrew coaster? If you have been studying rides for a long time, you should surely know that Loch Ness Monster is one of the most famous Arrow Dynamics (Arrow Development) custom looping coasters in the world. Vekoma had nothing to do with that project. It's a long story behind the similarities of Arrow and Vekoma. Also, Loch Ness Monster technically would not be classified as a corkscrew coaster since there isn't a single corkscrew on the ride.
+Jake Savage your the one who argued back and made a rather nasty remark so I don't know why your being cheeky saying people who argue in comment sections have a lot of time on their hands 🙄
the safety belt is there in case the torso piece fails to hold shut. The safety belt ensures that in case of a failure to the main restraint, the belt can still hold it down. You guys need to understand that there are two restraints, one is the main torso restraint, and the second is used in case of emergencies.
Charlotte plays because the smiler has newer advanced safety locking system then oblivion, there's virtually no chance of it failinft, and if the spot the slightest problem like one restraint won't shut properly, they'll shut the ride.
+Joseph Miraglia The fastest rollercoaster in the world is Formula Rossa. Oblivion is the fastest coaster at Alton Towers and is the third fastest in the UK, after Stealth at Thorpe Park and The Big One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
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You don’t actually need the seatbelt necessarily, it’s just a safety precaution just in case the actual harness comes off and you would still something to have on. It coming off is quite common, and nothing to fear of.
That is a snap-in locking seatbelt. To get it to undo, you have to pull up on the release handle. She must not have snapped it in all the way, or it was broken to begin with. Either way, she should have known that. I pull on mine after I snap it in, before even leaving the station.
The seatbelt that came undone in this video is just for guest comfort. The woman in the video was in no danger, as her harness didn’t come up. There are 8 pins that hold the harness in place, making it nearly impossible to become undone. I think the male in the video was laughing because he understood what was happening. He most likely understood that the seatbelt was a fail safe, and she was in no danger. Big rollercoasters like this have millions of sensors throughout insuring that the riders have a safe experience. They are inspected for eight hours before opening to insure that nothing is mechanically wrong. Most accidents that happen on rollercoasters are human error.
Why I yank on my belt repeatedly before the ride departs. Haha but even if the harness or belt malfunctioned, you wouldn't be going anywhere. Now if they both malfunctioned, then there would be problems
so do I, right after locking before crew comes to check, i test them both, than after depart just trying to push it away. Mostly for reason that i want to one more click which is a lot easier on steep lifthill at the florless BM like this with same restrains.
Honestly, why shouldn't the guy be laughing? For one, while the ride is going, you can just re-strap the damn belt, it's happened to me before... Second, the restraint itself is locked, it's not like the seat belt is the thing holding it down on you....Sure if the restraint failed, the seat belt is your only back up, but if your restraint fails...you're just pretty damn unlucky in general lol.
That seat on the ride car is now fitted with 2 seatbelts instead of 1, when i went on oblivion yesterday on the font row in the middle of one of the ride carts there where 2 seatbelts
MSP Llama I know every fat guy was on that seat i'm a bit over 1.4M and was moved from that seat to the end, loads of the fat people sat on the 2 seatbelt thou I went on saturday.
and the primary did fail in my opinion just not fully, watch the moment they start the drop and the seat belt comes out, the orange device holding her in becomes loose, and that seems to trigger the seat belt coming undone. Makes me wonder if there is an automated system to undo the seatbelts when those orange devices lift up?
On this specific ride, it's actually used as a weight indicator, if the seatbelt cannot be done up, you cannot ride. It doesn't actually offer any protection really.
xXFabulous Foxx It have happened to me that the seat belt have failed. I didnt care because i know the seat belt is an extra lock. The primary locks is the ones you have to worry about. Do not comment on a topic you know nothing about.
It's not very much of a miracle that she is alive. The seat belts just there in case there strait fails, so, even though the seat belt came undone, the restraint was still locked.
The belt is used as a guide, not a secondary restraint. Coaster operators pull on them to make sure there's slack, If it's taught that means the harness isn't down enough clicks and they either pull it down further or ask your fat ass to disembark the ride.
Jimmy Danger Gonzalez I believe they are used for safety reasons like if the restraining system fails during the ride it would prevent the person from falling out.
Some of them don’t even have that much anymore. Rip Rocket whatever at Universal Studios only has a lap bar which terrifies the shit out of me. The platform also constantly moves, so I already feel crazy panicked trying to get into the damn thing. Then the new Velocicoaster at Islands of Adventure also only has a lap bar, no shoulder restraint. Both with crazy loops and dips. 🥵
I never really understood the point of those belts. The belt isn't actually holding the shoulder bar down so I don't get it. The shoulder harness is locked into place regardless if the belt is there
Everyone is saying that’s the backup seatbelt but it would still be scary! Especially if you’re in the middle of a high speed roller coaster! Honestly tho.... how could you not freak out😂😳
The belt actually does NOT malfunction. If you look at the footage carefully starting at 0:38, you'll notice that -a strap hanging from the woman's clothing- becomes lodged in -the seatbelt's release lever- and pulls it.
There is no safety element to that clip - it is merely there for further peace of mind of the rider. The overhead restraint would have been 100% safely locked in place.
The main lock in rollercoasters is extremely reliable, but not "100% safe"; nothing is. The belt is a backup restraint, and also a gauge for whether a person is too large to ride. It does give "peace of mind", but that's precisely because it is a visible failsafe; not because it looks pretty.
@@lako8368 Fair point, but B&M technology ensures that the train would not even leave the station if there were even the smallest problem with the restraint. There are sensors all over that ride. Oblivion has been open for nearly 25 years and has a 100% safety record. B&M make the safest rides in the world.
emma onyilokwu It uses a ratchet as the locking device. It is possible for the ratchet to not engage fully, which will allow it to pop up to the next notch. This is not dangerous as it can only pop up by one notch, the ratchet will then fully engage in the next notch and prevent it from opening any further. This won't happen on restraints that use hydraulics instead of a ratchet.
emma onyilokwu Im pretty sure nemesis and oblivion both use ratchet harnesses as they both go up a bit if you push them up slightly as the ride starts. The Smiler and Saw both use hydraulics I think
Her reaction was to laugh, as was the friend’s. I can definitely see how it could scare someone, but she was in 0% more danger than she was beforehand.
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She was still locked in. The seat belt is more of a fail safe.
It's not even a fail safe the only point of ir is to stop the harnesses hitting you in the face at the end and to make you FEEL secure
@@jamesrowe5431 No. It's a backup incase the restraint where to ever fail and if it did, the seat belt would hold the restraint in place. Safety is a theme parks main priority so the rides are very very safe to ride much safer than carnivals etc.
@@jzm5x the theme lark have said that that is not the purpose, it's to make you feel safe
@@jamesrowe5431 it's not about the theme park, ask the actual company itself. Yes it does make you feel safe but that's not the only reason. It's also used to judge whether the person is the right size to go on the ride incase they're too big.
No she was holding the bar that came over here head Down!
The seatbelt is just a precaution in case the primary locks fail, which is like one in a billion. Seatbelts fail all the time, it isn't that uncommon. Now if the primary locks have failed and she would only have the seatbelt to secure herself, that would be scary.
Hidious Vanity no the seatbelt is only to give the passengers a feeling of safety... they have no technical function^^... the primary locks cant fail, they are multiple locked... ;) sorry for my english
Guys you should have dropped the camera it would have been awesome!📷🎆
Lets Explore That didn't happen. Nemesis is a Bolliger and Mabillard coaster, and Alton is a top quality park. There has never been any accident on a B&M coaster and never a serious accident at Alton. You are either lying or just mistaken.
Lets Explore Their are many locks on the seats, so one lock failing cannot cause a malfunction. Each seat has many sensors for every lock, which are monitored. It is how they know if one restraint isn't fully down before the ride is sent forth.
Well then howcome her orange secure thingy was jiggling more than the guys?
You don’t actually need the seatbelt. Parks just put it as a fail safe to comfort the riders.
I'm glad this is top comment
@@furiousgoesboom Wrong.
@@furiousgoesboom Easy, restraints don't just "come lose". Firstly, the belts only serve 2 possible purposes.
1: To give guests peace of mind, so so it's purely psychological.
2: To indicate if a guest is too large. If the belt won't reach, the restraint won't be secure.
On many rides you don't see any belts at all, even on fast and powerful inverting coasters. Restraints are built to withstand tremendous force, far bigger than belts can. If anything happens to rip a restraint off (afaik, this has never happened and probably never will), the belt will do nothing to help. Secondly, almost all restraints are made to only unlock at the station, either mechanically or via an electric charge. This makes it impossible for them to accidentally come lose, since they need to physically be at the station for anything to happen. This is why coasters that get stuck on a hill still has working restraints that still keep guests safe. Even during a failure on track, the restraints never unlock by accident.
Of course there are exceptions. Some very few old trains have outdated restraints and there have been occasions where they come somewhat loose during a ride due to mechanical failures. But they're allowed to still be in use because the ride isn't forceful enough to throw someone out of their seats anyways. And most often when a failure of this kind happens, it gets reported and the train gets modified or upgraded. The ride in the video definitively isn't a vintage ride, it's modern enough to have a secure restraint that won't come lose. I've so far only found one video of a lap bar in an old train coming loose, unless it was faked.
I hope this made you less scared and more trusting of roller coaster restraints. There are videos that explain this far better with visual aids, you'll find them easily if you search for them. Have a nice day.
@@furiousgoesboom obviously you're gp. no, its not on every coaster, but its on most popular coasters in parks that draw large crowds, its to make the riders feel more secure, even though its not needed. like how over the shoulder restraints are not needed, unless the ride has a rocking/ spinning like element on the cars
@@furiousgoesboom it's for measuring, if the seat belt can't close the person is too large for the ride, if it closes it means that the restraints were able to lock. If it came undone after the measurement it's alright, all of the accidents with open restraints it was the fault of the ride operator that didn't identify that the restraint wasn't locked and it didn't lock because the person was too large, these seatbelts are supposed to avoid the issue of people larger than the restraints can handle riding
You've got more chance of being in 10 car crashes on the way to Alton Towers than you have being in an accident on one of the rides.
BYW kidz It had *an* accident. Your point is?
One major accident in almost 40 years of theme park operation is an almost impeccable safety record. Nobody has died there since it became a theme park, plus the one accident they had was human error
Tbh it doesn't really matter. It's horrible what happened to them but there's no way around it, Alton have a nearly perfect safety record. Multiple people have died at Disney, I guess that place is unsafe too?
No, no you won't. You'd have to be something along those lines to think Alton Towers is unsafe because of one accident caused _by human error_, nothing to do with the ride at all, by a worker who no longer works there, and especially with all the new imo, some unnecessary safety precautions put in.
notaprofessional I wouldn't even try arguing with these stupid people mate
*Seatbelt comes undone*
*Harness stays closed throughout entire ride*
"OH MY GOD SHE ALMOST DIED!!"
Actually some rides need it because the thing goes up
Alexis Armijo Icon at blackpool goes up as well as upside down and that just has a lapbar.
Same
I know but it's shocking when stuff like that happens even though the big harness didn't go and the belt did it's still scary to people
krisTarno Kaine Then anybody who finds it scarey shouldn’t ride it.
I thought it said girl on rollercoaster falls into oblivion
o no
Haha
Lol same
lol me too
Luca Cecchini lmao 😂😂
But that clip essentially is only a backup because your harness isnt going to unlock she had nothing to be worried about but i can understand how scary it must be
Exactly... The conpant that makes this, B&M have never had a restraint failure or really any major mechanical failure at all... Freaking out over the seatbelt (which isn't made by B&M) is compeltely uneccesary
Gp though
Coaster EnthusiastNY tru
the gp annoy me so much...
Yep that rides default restraint position is down not up... So there is no way to fall out of it, it was explained in a behind the scenes tour
I love how her friend just laughs his head off when he realises.
Because she's not in danger
@@joshjj422 She is the danger.
@@PMDG738flyer no she's not
@@joshjj422 You're god damn right, I am the danger, I am the one who knocks, I AM HEISENBURG.
@@PMDG738flyer lmao
"He's laughing. What a prick." Yes. Because the ride was over and she was safe, and no harm was done so he decided to laugh at a HARMLESS moment when they were SAFE
JustMeIvanGe she was safe the entire video
wtf where is this anger coming from, how do you wanna know that she said something like that? she was laughing herself
i like this comment to get it to 69 likes heh heh
@@Moonlakes I think she's talking about other comments not what the lady supposedly said
@@Moonlakes They quotation marks " mean it's referencing other comments lmao learn to read
the belt is only secondary safety, jeeze
Mc Cheesepickel ikr? these people are getting mad because "she might have died!" ... people these days...
yeah, it's a bit stupid
CallyMac KAZOOOO
Snyggneville yeah but you would still be scared
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I always make sure I hear clicks, clacks, dings , pings & clack ! !! 👍
Are you okay?
Ciel Phantomhive I'm great & you?! 😆
***** yes as long as they are saying it nice & with minty breath! : O
Ciel Phantomhive
Lee Serrano You are too funny! Love it how you responded to Ciel lol
My friend literally took his seatbelt off as soon as he got out of the station, which shows just how much of an irrelevant piece of the restraining system is to have a seatbelt, and that it is only their for the rider to feel safer, even though they already are as safe as you can possibly be
Yeah there’s a ride called vertigo it’s a booster ride travelling around Britain and at hull the seatbelt came Undone but they still had the over the shoulder restraints like this ride it’s that irrelevant the operators that care about them coming undone as there not important but some mum put in on the news saying how the staff take no care and that her kids or most died and she never coming back some people don’t Understand there not important if the rider can undo them their self it’s never important
Yeah and in the highly unlikely event the main lock failed your friend would have felt like a complete jackass for a few seconds before going splat.
Why did he do that
@@someoneout-there2165 Main restraint failure is so uncommon I wasn't able to find a single example. It just doesn't happen. All accidents I have found are due to park staff negligence and stupidity of riders.
image how scary that would be
Not very, the belt is only there for backup. The restraints aren't loose.
+Videos And Stuff with David Dont be a smart ass. Everyone here including yourself would be scared to death.
+Marius H Nope. I would be fine.
Dude you can just put it back on no big deal. If you had knowledge of that you wouldn't be scared.
Tynopo Exactly
To those saying something along the lines of "omg she could have fallen out" and/or "terrible theme park - not very well maintained", It's a fucking seatbelt which acts as a SECONDARY safety precaution. There is almost ZERO chance of the main over-the-shoulder harness from failing (way over 1 in the hundreds of millions) That belt is only there to keep the main harness at a reasonable distance to the rider should the almost impossible happen - even if the main harness and belt failed, as long as she held on, the G's exerted on the car would have even kept it down for most of the ride regardless.
"It would have even kept it down for most of the ride regardless"? WTF! How about ALL THE RIDE, numb nuts! I would never ride there again! EVER! And I would have slapped the living hell out of that guy laughing!!!!!!
I'm not 100 percent sure what your opinion is here..
***** How about you learn to construct a simple sentence before posting such ironic, moronic bullshit?
xx_emma_xx you start.
you go up an 100ft incline lift hill.
you take a left turn.
you slow down as you reach the brink.
you stop on the edge.
you fall 100ft and then enter the tunnel.
the tunnel continues 80ft but levels out in the process.
the ride comes out of the exit tunnel at high speed.
it goes into a left banked turn.
it goes up another sloped hill.
it enters the break run.
the ride returns to the station.
***** lol thats what she said ^^ (no but really...scroll up a little)
This music makes me feel like I'm watching an intro to a show from 2001
Many people are saying the belt is just a fail safe but it’s actually not only that and is primarily to act as a physical verification that the restraint is closed the minimum amount
It's a second layer of safety. The overhead restraint locks too! It can be undone by the rider. If it was critical, they wouldn't make it so you could undo it yourself.
The overhead restraint was not locked! You can see it moving as she trys to hold on.
+Melisa Messman Have you ever been on a rollercoaster before? on every rollercoaster the overhead restraints wiggle a tiny bit lol
Yes I have. I have been on many rollercoasters. I have been on many where the restraint moved some, but I have also been on some with restraints that didn't lock. The sad truth is that not all amusement parks care about our safety as much as they do about money. I have traveled to many parks to test the safety measures, and then write up reports about them.
Melisa Messman One wrongful death suit can lead to a park being forced to both pay out vast sums of money, AND destroy the ride. They care about safety.
Docktor Jim I know there are many parks that do care about our safety. I said not all amusement parks care, I did not say they are all the same way. Although you are correct that a death can cause a ruling to pay and destroy the ride, it does not always turn out that way. Look it up and you will find there are many parks with active coasters that have a body count. I wish it was not the case, but it is becoming an all too common truth.
This roller coaster is called Oblivion. It opened in 1998 as the world's first dive coaster. It is manufactured by Bolliger and Mabillard of Switzerland. What's special about B&M? Well, only that they have a PERFECT safety record. That's right. Their first coaster was built in 1990 and not one of their coasters has failed. Now a seatbelt on this type of roller coaster is a secondary safety device, as well as a measuring device (if it doesn't close the rider is too big). The harness on B&M's rides will not, and I mean WILL NOT come undone. Even if the seatbelt was not there, if the restraint locks, it STAYS locked. There is absolutely a 0% chance that this woman would have fallen out. Zero. Percent. So stop saying "ohhh she could have died." Because she couldn't have.
Marc Weiner #NotSponsered
How do the restraints stay on though? I don't really understand how that works 😂 love your comment tho!
thanks now im not scared of this coaster
It’s Jazzy it’s still a dive coaster just not a vertical one
It’s Jazzy read your comment again “is actually not the worlds first dive coaster”
The amount of stupidity in this comment section is too much to handle. Thankfully there are a few who know what they're talking about.
I know, right! I've worked with rides for years- people don't realise that these modern rides have computers that are constantly checking everything.
plot twist: you're not one of them.
Turtle Butt 1. Why is this a reply to my comment rather than just a general comment and 2. There is about a 0.00001% chance that her restraints would fail. The seatbelt is only the backup in case that rare occurrence happens.
Peanuts stuck in an unicorns earlobe travel to Canadia to learn Spanish like a penguin...
lintlickerben that is the stupidest and funniest thing I have ever read
I love that people realize that literally more than half the coasters in the world don’t even have a seatbelt connected to the restraint
Innit
True here in germany i have never ridden a single roller coaster that had one. I didn't even know that some roller coasters have one until a few weeks ago.
@@kingghidorah5213older models tend to have them more
The only point that belt serves is when there is a critical failure in the locking mechanism in the harness and it unlocks mid ride.
Which is highly unlikely. The chances of the belt AND harness failing at the same time are almost astronomical.
Monxer no its wrong... the seatbelt are just for the feeling of safeness, they have no function ;) its nearly impossible that the locking mechanism fails, its locked mechanically... if the locks fails (just happend a few times in the last 100 years) there are g forces up to 600 kilogramms on a rollercoaster and the belt would break... its not a belt like in a car with a complex mechanism... sorry for my bad english...
DerSpassVerderber So basically, if the selt belt comes off in any ride, you are still safe?
soamaze do you really think they would put people lives on a seatbelt?
soamaze yes of course. 90 % of rollercoasters haven't got seat bells^^
DerSpassVerderber You have any sources to back that up?
Its in her hand...and she throws it away instead of plugging it back in. Yup.
That's life, kid. That's life..
She threw it away because it was the end of the ride. No good anymore.
the ride was finished, no point of buckling it again.
Angelica Stokes ye I no x
***** yeah but if u look carefuly at about 00:48 and 00:49 to about 00:50 she relises and just ignores it so that was a bit stupid !!!!! :0
Really? I literally went on oblivian 8 times today and u can ACTUALLY JUST PLUG THE SEAT BELT BACK IN LADY
She didn't notice until the end
Isaac Sweeney oh ok 🤣
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Edit: After looking closely, it indeed came loose, it did not snap. I was wrong.
@@hihun3801 Who is your profile picture
@@Plastic_Sole I didn't snap it came out
That belt is only a measuring device. If you can’t get it to buckle, you’re too big and it isn’t safe to ride. That’s the only reason for it being there, not to keep you in if your harness “failed” which it never will due to there being a minimum of 11 different devices preventing a failure.
finally someone who has a brain!
actually (yes it can be used as a measure device) but the seatbelt is for secondary protection incase the primary lock releases (which is extremely unlikely but it is possible) ~ enthusiast who has spoken about the subject to john wardley himself
It isn't just a measuring device it stops the riders fly out of the actual restraint but yes it has three reasons but the one I mentioned is very very very very very very very! Unlikely so mostly just used for measurements
@@themeparkscrewloose5826 smol brain but getting smart for that reason
It's a good thing that on roller coasters manufactured by B&M, that their seat belts are basically useless. The over the shoulder harness is locked into place. The seat belt is just a fail save.
You're very close! The real reason that B&Ms have those belts on there is because they are an easy reference for judging whether the rider is an appropriate size to ride or not. If the belt can't be buckled, the restraint hasn't been lowered enough and the rider is too large to ride. I suppose that they could catch the restraint if it were to somehow open, but that's incredibly unlikely and that's not why they are there.
I love how her boyfriend is acting like her seatbelt coming off is the most hilarious thing he’s ever seen in his life
Nick P he was laughing at her over exaggerated reaction
Its a failsafe. The restraint was still locked
probably was one of them lmao
@@APerson_ Not even, is for peace of mind of the rider.
🤣
0:59 the girls freaking out... meanwhile that guys cracking up he looks like he's gonna pee his pants 😂
I can confirm that she was in no real danger. My seatbelt came undone on a roller coaster called Georgia Scorcher on two separate occasions. That roller coaster goes upside down, and I was fine. The seatbelt doesn't actually hold the bar down, and if it did, you could see the belt stretched out, but in the video, the seatbelt is just dangling there.
It doesn't matter if that comes undone. The over shoulder bar is locked down until the workers release it.
Actually, the seatbelt is there incase the the bodybar comes undone so It keeps the bodybar down
Davina Brown no shit sherlock
Chris Wilde fuck off Watson
Jade is telling the truth. The seatbelt is only there if the rare occasion the hydraulic lock fails. What actually happens is the workers usually plug a cable to let the body bars go up.
jeffgads
Have you ever ridden a coaser where ther OTSR popped open? Funnily enough, it's happened to me on plenty of B&M coasters- the seat belt is there, as Davina has stated, to keep the lap bar down if it pops up. Seeing this happen on Oblivion makes me wonder if this is a feature of B&M's. Glad I'm an Intamin man.
Yeah the buckle doesn't do anything. The restraints are locked in the station and if the ride were to break down (let's just say on the lift hill) the ride ops would just walk up and unlock the restraints with a key and everyone would walk down. Yeah, it seems as if it's come a little lose but it hasn't. It only because the ride has tipped her and her whole body weight is left on the restraint and when she's flung back after the drop, it seems pretty lose. Trust me, I live like a mile away from Alton Towers and my mums been a ride operator up there. You are perfectly fine.
Actually, the buckle does do something very important. If the chest lock came undone, the seatbelt would be there to protect the body from completely slipping out. So don't go acting petite thinking you know a lot by using big words. Also, imagine if you were in her position. No doubt, you would've panicked too.
Edit: Plus, if your mom actually was one, she should've taught you that seatbelts actually do, do something very important. So trust me honey, she could've gotten injured if the chest lock wasn't tight enough.
@@randomaccount6149 the restrain doesn't just unlike during the ride. especially with the mechanism this ride uses
random account You really don’t know much about coasters, don’t you.
acaccount oblivion uses a ratcheting restraint system meaning when the restraint is closed it is locked in place and I trust me it ain't coming undone
For those who don't know a seat belt doesn't hold down the harness and keep it from unlocking. The belt is just an extra safety option incase if the harness locks fail which is very very unlikely. The belt would not release the harness as when the harnesses are locked the train needs to be connected to the station for the operator to release the locks. So i understand why it would have been scary but no, it would have not made her life at risk :)
Everyone keeps on saying that it is only a backup belt but its really not that either, it is in fact a measuring device if you cannot put the belt in the buckle then you are too fat to ride its basically just a tester restraint to make sure riders can fit properly into the main restraint and it has nothing to do with holding riders in their seat it the woman was probably fiddling with it after being dispatched from the station and so she loosened it enough so that on the drop it came out
No if the restraint isn't fitting then your too fat.
the main priority of the seatbelt is secondary protection incase the primary lock releases (very highly unlikely)
@@terrestrial9622 and just to make some riders feel safer
@@vinnamon i wrote that a year ago and now ive learned more about coaster seatbelts im actually 100% wrong.
1. the seatbelt is there like u said to make guests feel safer
2. it is there to check if riders can ride, if the seatbelt cant shut then you are to big to ride
It's nothing to be scared about. The seatbelts serve no purpose unless the harness actually malfunctions. Some roller coasters have harnesses only without seatbelts. It's just an extra precaution just incase the unthinkable happens.
AyoT7 wtf is wring with you man??
AyoT7 lmfao forget your meds today? It'll be alright.
I'm starving, and hungry. But I don't need to eat. Thanks for being so understanding.
AyoT7 Damn
Hey when I went on nemesis something like that happened the restraint lifted up when I was on the ride, the seatbelt was still in but it had lifted so far that I could fall out I was freaked!
One time I was riding a ride with a big loop on it and at the top of the loop I fell out but luckily I fell back into the coaster when it reached the bottom of the loop. I fell right back into the same seat I fell out of. I was so lucky.
I smell bullshit...
Pun4tulkku me too
It is clearly a joke...
Thank you, Nothelle. LMAO.
My name is Noelle Sheen. c:
The ride was OVER when she told him. I'm pretty sure he was laughing like OH SHIT! Thats crazy and maybe to calm her down she was laughing by the time she got off. And besides even if she did tell him what good is freaking out going to do??? Fk ppl are stupid.
ItzCrazeee You need to calm down sir.
OK?
I'm not a whore for one thing.
Amen.
The problem is that most people, when they see any action by any other person in the world ever (provided that they can't actually hear or see you), they have to immediately judge it in a negative way. It's one of those diseases that spread through the internet. I think the medical term for it is : Trollitis.
Have seen this video multiple times and wanted to clear up, the "safety" belt is a measuring device along with a proxy sensor inside the seat, if the belt can be buckled then the rider is within spec (size limits) to ride safely and the proxy sensor serves the same purpose but only used in the station for dispatch. In the video the belt unclipped and the harness stayed locked but the harness did skip a click as the carriage fell (you can tell when the harness is looser after than before) which is what shook the belt loose. But despite this the harnesses are designed (these specifically) where there are roughly 8 latches in pairs engaged so if one were to slip (maybe due to vibration) the other 6 are ready to catch the ratchet at the next groove which is why it stayed locked. Only if all 8 latches failed twice in a row would the harness fully open. Still abit nervy that it slipped but it can happen
Before you comment *If that was me I would sue the whole park,* the seat belt is useless, if it fails, nothing will happen, it's not like you will fall off
***** lmao. those people are stupid
***** So true
It's not useless,it's a secondary safety feature in case the primary restraint fails...
SKYLANDBAK I know
+Bob Saget But if he the think that's holding you back fails you will die where as if the seat belt works you wouldn
t and it would stay on
Her thing was locked down anyway
*****
The restraint has two separate locking mechanisms. If one fails, the other will keep it locked and it won't come open. The chance of both failing at once is infinitesimally small. The belt is only a measurement device, it's a fixed length and can only reach the restraint once it's down far enough to lock properly.
Yeah used to watching people panic all the time when i worked in the industry, most overhead restraints have least 4 locking mechanisms, dual ratchet locking, hydraulic ram, sometimes an air ram as well (well maybe not roller coasters but other types of rides like top scans) and belt lock. Your more likely to die queuing for the ride than on the ride. also these are check every year in the UK for metal fatigue on the welds as well as other major parts
***** The belt is only there for size, its so that if someone cannot put the belt on then they basically are too big for the ride, this is a B&M manufactured ride and the restraints themselves are pretty much failsafe and will not unlock. i hope this cleared things up:)
My harness fail on the superman before launch, fell busted my knee open and sued
I died and sued.
"OMG HE'S LAUGHING THE ASSHOLE" > It came off in the middle, yes, but neither of them realised at the end. When he was laughing they were pulling into the platform to get back off... there was never any real danger. Regardless, there was no danger even if it hadn't never been buckled in the first place. You have locking mechanisms and physics to thank for that.
I know right? People are too frickin' sensitive these days.
+roadregu oh of course we are if we're talking about our lives here!
+Sheila Betonio Yes, but your lives aren't in danger! Hell, I wouldn't be laughing if my friend's safety harness had ACTUALLY COME UNDONE, but in this case it hadn't. The belt is only a secondary feature and is pretty much unnecessary (as is quite clear to anyone with half a brain cell).
I'd be laughing, and if it happened to me my friends would be laughing. Once we got off the ride we'd all be laughing. Don't know how people manage to be friends with people who get butthurt over the slightest thing. Jeez.
OH, you know how people are so afraid of dying right? People want "multiple" safety features in their lives to survive whatever it is wrecking their lives. I think that goes to riding a roller coaster as well. What if it was her first time riding a roller coaster? Wouldn't you want to be AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE? It's not about HAVING A HALF BRAIN to understand it, it's about people's INSTINCT of surviving especially with all those adrenaline rushing through her brain! Well, I haven't ridden a roller coaster all my life nor would I ever ride one someday, so I guess my reaction would be the same as hers should my "secondary" safety belt got loose. Please bear with other people as some are not "half brainy" as you are.... :) Anyway, ciao boy, just chill!
Oh, they had probably just laughed it off after that! but we're talking about initial reaction, I'm talking about initial reaction :) Maybe I'd be scared at first but after that ride, I'd just probably laugh as well, as some other people who have a "HALF BRAIN CELL" as you described it! Why do people have to be a jerk and sooo insensitive to other people's feelings? JEEZ!
I rode the whole batman the ride and my seatbelt wasn't in (because they forgot to check it) it's just there it has no purpose it's just to make the ride seem safer when it's just as normal as a ride without seat belts for the harness
It's a backup safety mechanism. If the harness comes undone, as long as the seatbelt also doesn't become undone, you should be fine. The seatbelt is NOT cosmetic.
Sammybo 13 The belt is there to make sure the harness is in place, if they can't buckle the seatbelt, the harness isn't down properly.
There's no such thing as "forgetting to check it." First off, every seatbelt composer for rides like that are trained to check TWICE that everyone's seatbelts are buckled. Second off, before you go saying that's not how it works, it actually IS because I've went there myself. Third off, think with the noggin your mother gave you before you go around lying with terrible excuses expecting people to actually believe you.
@@randomaccount6149 bruh moment
@@msmilano7091 most coasters now ditched that method, and dont have those extra seatbelts, now they use sensors in the restraints
I always hold down my restraints for this very reason.
+Royal C but the belt that came undone literally has nothing to do with the restraint...and the restraint will NEVER come up...
Same 😂
It literally didn’t come up?
Just to clear everything up the seat belts are there to measure if the person is to fat to ride. they will snap if the restraint fails just like it did in the video.
xD
She wasn't even that big...
Nathan Miller I know. the restraint failed. it wasn't because of her weight.
Even if the belt fails she won't fly out because the harness stays locked in
Yeh, that's totaly right! If someone is maybe to fat to ride, they let their seat belt fail so that they think their gonna die but really they need to go on a diat! What is life?
Doesn't look like it broke. It wasn't locked in properly. Instead of throwing it aside... put it back in? It is a backup, but take it upon yourself to reattach it.
i wouldnt be able to let go to reattach it xD
Honestly bro had the devious smile while going up the lifthill
The belt is just to make you think you are safe , even if the belt did come off the thing you hold on to is locked down. (I asked a member of staff why there is a belt and they said its just for satisfaction)
True
The belt is actually a back-up safety device, so if the lock on the restraint fails, which is very unlikely, you can still remain safe because the restraint would be loose but you'd still be inside it.
i always grip the seat or look for something to hold on the seat itself forget the harnesses lol, the coasters that have no floors the seats are only held up by bolts lol
+Blade ManX No they are well made.
Exactly +Usman A, the belt prevents the shoulder restraint from flying up if the locks don't engage. Always check your seat belt yourself, don't rely on a teenager making minimum wage to do it for you.
As soon as I saw they were not Chinese, and this wasn't China, I knew nothing was gonna happen.
+YusumayX Chinese people dont have to be from china in order to be chinese
+Tykira Jones They said their family no the individual themselves. I understand the point that you are trying to make but they are correct. Somewhere in their ancestry they'd have to have come from China though you do indeed make a valid point.
+Pop Films But the caretaking is different.
Racist.....
+Geometry Dash Ethan Why isn t it typical for China, that the safety is bad and there much accidents?
I was riding King Kong (I think that's the ride name) at Six Flags in California and the ride is built exactly like this one except your feet are hanging and my seat buckle clicked off and I freaking screamed bloody murder.... Luckily the seat belts on those type of rides are just a back up so I didn't die (obviously.)
King kong is not the name of the ride, its Kong at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom. It has no rights to King Kong which is why its formerly called Kong
TheGamersINK Formally*
TheGamersINK actually ur both wrong google it it's KINGDA KA so yea ur both wrong
Actually all of you are wrong King Da Ka is in New Jersy
Maryam Mian king da ka is NOT is California....
Seatbelts are an aestetic on Bolliger and Mabillard coasters, sorry to burst your bubble drama alert nation
The seat (The orange seat that is in the video) is LOCKED in place, so if the belt, that is in between your legs, breaks/snaps (which it shouldn't) or comes off the seat itself, you won't fall off, because of the orange seat of which keeps you safe.
The evidence of this aswell, and you could see, before she went into the tunnel, her seat belt came un-done, she jerked forward, and her seat didn't even jerk forward with her- and the ride was still going, the seat was safely in place.
^^
Her friend's laugh helped her to calm down quicker. If it wasn't by that, she'd freaked out.
The seatbelt doesn't even do anything lol
It does a whole lot...if the harnesses unlocked the seat belts would be their to stop them from lifting up from running, if you understand mechanics of rides you would know
Is that why many rides with shoulder harnesses don't even have belts, Isaac?
+FanOfVacuums2 some nowadays that don't have harnesses are electronic and won't need that sort of stuff as it is controlled but things like this has a belt as it is simply a lock so the belt is a extra safety caution :) don't think you can outsmart me
+FanOfVacuums2 yeh the reason why it doesn't have belts is because it's a vekoma corkscrew ride that have some sort of special restraint mechanism that doesn't need belts...I've been studying and learning about rides for a long time, don't judge people on what they say
Isaac Gamez I'm not judging you at all. Although different major coaster manufacturers have different mechanisms, one isn't any less safe than the other once they're lowered past a certain point. That's where the belts come into play.
With that said, did you say that the Loch Ness Monster is a Vekoma Corkscrew coaster? If you have been studying rides for a long time, you should surely know that Loch Ness Monster is one of the most famous Arrow Dynamics (Arrow Development) custom looping coasters in the world. Vekoma had nothing to do with that project. It's a long story behind the similarities of Arrow and Vekoma. Also, Loch Ness Monster technically would not be classified as a corkscrew coaster since there isn't a single corkscrew on the ride.
This video is proof that rides are so safe that even without a seatbelt there is no chance you're falling off that thing.
That's the flimsiest harness I've ever scene yet she's a good sport for laughing it off
+Jake Savage uh no you were in the wrong so you cant have a go at me for correcting you so no
How The Actual Fudge Did This Comment Lead To People Fighting¿😐
+MarBear 53 people with a lot of time on their hands I guess😂
+MarBear 53 because that's what commenters do best :D
+Jake Savage your the one who argued back and made a rather nasty remark so I don't know why your being cheeky saying people who argue in comment sections have a lot of time on their hands 🙄
I like it how the guys just killing himself with laughter
bc seatbelts dont do sh
They are locked in with more than just belts. She was fine, the belt is an extra precaution.
this is why im glad oblivion has 2 safe precautions, the seat belt and the actual harness is locked in place
not only oblivion
The seat belt doesn't do sh it's just for measuring riders
the safety belt is there in case the torso piece fails to hold shut. The safety belt ensures that in case of a failure to the main restraint, the belt can still hold it down. You guys need to understand that there are two restraints, one is the main torso restraint, and the second is used in case of emergencies.
Where is the second located?
god thank you lol
Lucky girl! All rides should have two safety belts
Ho come some rides such as the Smiler don't have the seat belt? If the harness failed it would be fatal.
Charlotte plays because the smiler has newer advanced safety locking system then oblivion, there's virtually no chance of it failinft, and if the spot the slightest problem like one restraint won't shut properly, they'll shut the ride.
why the hell was the guy laughing??? He could see the girl was panicking and he was just laughing at her.
I have this happen to me on a Mr freeze reverse blast ride... There is no problem if it happens.
If I'm correct, the belt is only there in case the overhead restraint fails.
Yes correct ^
he thought she was scared, not cause the seat belt came of
Marisa Richmond yup
That was the quickest roller coaster ever.
+Joseph Miraglia The fastest rollercoaster in the world is Formula Rossa. Oblivion is the fastest coaster at Alton Towers and is the third fastest in the UK, after Stealth at Thorpe Park and The Big One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
+SilverCipher I think he meant that is a short roller coaster
SORAUchiha9 that's exactly what I meant.
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You don’t actually need the seatbelt necessarily, it’s just a safety precaution just in case the actual harness comes off and you would still something to have on. It coming off is quite common, and nothing to fear of.
Imagine if it went down into the hole and when it came back up her seat was empty and the restraints were up
Lol yes!
GreyFox985
If B&M wasn’t reliable!
That is a snap-in locking seatbelt. To get it to undo, you have to pull up on the release handle. She must not have snapped it in all the way, or it was broken to begin with. Either way, she should have known that. I pull on mine after I snap it in, before even leaving the station.
That seatbelt won't save ya if the primary lock fails🤣🤣🤣 That's just a placebo for the faint hearted 🤗
That is true lol. The amount of room between the harness listed and the seatbelt won’t keep you in.
the chances of it failing are VERY low too. there’s 8 pins in every restraint
@@sammy2745I actually couldn't find a single example of full restraint failure.
The seatbelt that came undone in this video is just for guest comfort. The woman in the video was in no danger, as her harness didn’t come up. There are 8 pins that hold the harness in place, making it nearly impossible to become undone. I think the male in the video was laughing because he understood what was happening. He most likely understood that the seatbelt was a fail safe, and she was in no danger. Big rollercoasters like this have millions of sensors throughout insuring that the riders have a safe experience. They are inspected for eight hours before opening to insure that nothing is mechanically wrong. Most accidents that happen on rollercoasters are human error.
Why I yank on my belt repeatedly before the ride departs. Haha but even if the harness or belt malfunctioned, you wouldn't be going anywhere. Now if they both malfunctioned, then there would be problems
I do the same thing
so do I, right after locking before crew comes to check, i test them both, than after depart just trying to push it away. Mostly for reason that i want to one more click which is a lot easier on steep lifthill at the florless BM like this with same restrains.
rides are all automatically controlled by computer. It wont leave unless all the restraints are locked into place.
luckily that kind of harness by that company has literally never malfunctioned a single time in the millions of times this type of ride has been run.
My heart was besting so fast. I felt like I was the one on the roller coaster haha. Weldone to her for being relatively calm about it.
ok even if u we’re on the coaster u would be fine
The seat belt doesn't even need to be there
Honestly, why shouldn't the guy be laughing? For one, while the ride is going, you can just re-strap the damn belt, it's happened to me before...
Second, the restraint itself is locked, it's not like the seat belt is the thing holding it down on you....Sure if the restraint failed, the seat belt is your only back up, but if your restraint fails...you're just pretty damn unlucky in general lol.
You do realise the seat belt is only for guest comfort
It is a redundant safety belt just in case the primary fails.
Nick Beaumont which is why there's 2 safeties. it is unlikely a safety will fail. it is extremely unlikely both would fail at the same time.
That seat on the ride car is now fitted with 2 seatbelts instead of 1, when i went on oblivion yesterday on the font row in the middle of one of the ride carts there where 2 seatbelts
MidlandAviationHD Yea , I went 3 days ago on Friday , it has 2 belts , it was hilarious how many fat people sat in that seat...One squashed my arm D;
MSP Llama I know every fat guy was on that seat i'm a bit over 1.4M and was moved from that seat to the end, loads of the fat people sat on the 2 seatbelt thou I went on saturday.
and the primary did fail in my opinion just not fully, watch the moment they start the drop and the seat belt comes out, the orange device holding her in becomes loose, and that seems to trigger the seat belt coming undone. Makes me wonder if there is an automated system to undo the seatbelts when those orange devices lift up?
She's like "Im about to fly!I believe I can fly!"
It is still safe the strap uses hydrologic technology to lock.
The other buckle is for passengers to feel more safe
Dilly-Bob no it is hydraulic fluid with a piston
K sorry I mucked it up I will change it
Done
Dilly-Bob nice mate thanks for the change
I used to not be as much as an infusiast as I am now that’s why there is a mistake
On this specific ride, it's actually used as a weight indicator, if the seatbelt cannot be done up, you cannot ride. It doesn't actually offer any protection really.
The belt is a safe guard in case the harness failed. She was fine.
She didn't fall out and die? Well this was boring!
dennisfar
I'll keep you posted.
elijah27b you are sick bro, get a life
I'll see about getting a life, if you see about getting a sense of humor. Lighten up.
Everyone: Get a hold of yourselves. Get a sense of humor. Lighten up a little. Learn to laugh. Calm down, get a grip, and leave me the fuck alone.
***** wtf has this got to do with anything going on here!? Get over it and let people make a joke.
I came to see death! Give me my 2 minutes back RUclips
***** How you sadistic fuck?
Dylan Watson Dylan's unite!
Freddy Fazbear He wouldn't have to imagine anything. He would be dead.
you're an idiot. the video wouldnt even be on yt m8
1:25 actually.
seatbelts are redundant because the over-head restraint is whats actually keeping you in, its more there as a fail-safe
I would want money from the park if that were me.
xXFabulous Foxx For what?
For risking my life
xXFabulous Foxx It have happened to me that the seat belt have failed. I didnt care because i know the seat belt is an extra lock. The primary locks is the ones you have to worry about. Do not comment on a topic you know nothing about.
Magnus Louis I used to work at a theme park. You're incorrect.
sharkheadism oh wow you used to work at a theme park you must know everything about roller-coaster restraints!!!1!!!1!1!!!!!!!!
The seat was still entirely safe. The seatbelt is just a safety precaution.
On OSTRs it's not even a safety precaution, it's just a peace-of-mind thing
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 ye
this is a fail safe in action the girl is perfectly safe
That music sounds like something you’d find on an old VHS cassette about internet piracy. “You wouldn’t download a rollercoaster…”
They do realise that the arm bar doesn't need the belts support to hold the person in? They have cranks that keeps it from opening
I can't read lips... but something tells me HE DID IT to freak her out!!!
No shit... but he could have popped it loose before the camera came on. We didn't see them get in, or leave the station.
THANK YOU SO MUCH GOD THAT SHE IS ALIVE OMG THANK
YOU
The seatbelt is only if the orange thing gets loose she was really safe
Yes
It's not very much of a miracle that she is alive. The seat belts just there in case there strait fails, so, even though the seat belt came undone, the restraint was still locked.
Why the fuck yould you comment this? Maybe to get attention
Fiona Barry But is there a reason to post it on a publicly available comment section?
The guy just smiles and laughs as she panics 😆🎢
that guy probably knows she's safe
The belt is used as a guide, not a secondary restraint. Coaster operators pull on them to make sure there's slack, If it's taught that means the harness isn't down enough clicks and they either pull it down further or ask your fat ass to disembark the ride.
Jimmy Danger Gonzalez I believe they are used for safety reasons like if the restraining system fails during the ride it would prevent the person from falling out.
They are actually used as a safety measure.
Jimmy Danger Gonzalez you sir are wrong!!!
If this ever happened to me i be screaming and yelling like her and if anyone laughed at me i would probably punch em in the face
~SweetiePlush~ why would you scream, you would’ve been safe
ur not hard love
I know plenty of rides that use shoulder restraints that don't have a seatbelt.
I've even ridden some myself to be honest.
Some of them don’t even have that much anymore. Rip Rocket whatever at Universal Studios only has a lap bar which terrifies the shit out of me. The platform also constantly moves, so I already feel crazy panicked trying to get into the damn thing. Then the new Velocicoaster at Islands of Adventure also only has a lap bar, no shoulder restraint. Both with crazy loops and dips. 🥵
The seat belt I'd useless, it's just there in case the harness comes unlocked
you can tell it's not a big deal because shes literally pushing the shoulder restraindts up as the belt comes undone comes undone
I tend to black out on these rides. I am a large hairy guy that looks tough but am actually very sensitive.
The seatbelt is literally the least important part of the restraints.
I never really understood the point of those belts. The belt isn't actually holding the shoulder bar down so I don't get it. The shoulder harness is locked into place regardless if the belt is there
Everyone is saying that’s the backup seatbelt but it would still be scary! Especially if you’re in the middle of a high speed roller coaster! Honestly tho.... how could you not freak out😂😳
Even if you know that its just backup, it's still pretty scary!
The belt actually does NOT malfunction. If you look at the footage carefully starting at 0:38, you'll notice that -a strap hanging from the woman's clothing- becomes lodged in -the seatbelt's release lever- and pulls it.
you saw that 2
The strap actually has nothing to do with the seatbelt because as you can see the strap falls AFTER the seatbelt is buckled so it did fail.
Reunna Jones That doesn't prove anything. It doesn't matter when the strap fell, it mattered where and where the g-forces pulled it afterward.
+Xaxton Revolution how could the strap get into something that's already fastened?
Reunna Jones
I don't know, I'm assuming the G-forces pulled it.
There is no safety element to that clip - it is merely there for further peace of mind of the rider. The overhead restraint would have been 100% safely locked in place.
And in this case, since its a B&M rollercoaster, its to measure if you safely fit in the restraint and that you arent too big or something.
The main lock in rollercoasters is extremely reliable, but not "100% safe"; nothing is.
The belt is a backup restraint, and also a gauge for whether a person is too large to ride. It does give "peace of mind", but that's precisely because it is a visible failsafe; not because it looks pretty.
@@lako8368 Fair point, but B&M technology ensures that the train would not even leave the station if there were even the smallest problem with the restraint. There are sensors all over that ride. Oblivion has been open for nearly 25 years and has a 100% safety record. B&M make the safest rides in the world.
Guessing it's a secondary safety feature and she was perfectly safe.
not even a safety thing, it's basically just there for measurements and peace of mind of the rider
can we make a petition to stop gp's from being able to post theme park related videos?
Fr though
I would be scared too.
I WOULD BE LIKE
*GET ME THE FUCK OFF THIS RIDE!*
After all, she could fall off.
She could not fall off. Both of the main locking mechanisms were still locked, and the chance of both of them failing at once is practically zero.
Adam Ahmed
WOW.
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I just thought she could fall off because i saw the orange thing lifting up a bit.
emma onyilokwu It uses a ratchet as the locking device. It is possible for the ratchet to not engage fully, which will allow it to pop up to the next notch. This is not dangerous as it can only pop up by one notch, the ratchet will then fully engage in the next notch and prevent it from opening any further. This won't happen on restraints that use hydraulics instead of a ratchet.
Adam Ahmed Oh ok. Thanks!
emma onyilokwu Im pretty sure nemesis and oblivion both use ratchet harnesses as they both go up a bit if you push them up slightly as the ride starts. The Smiler and Saw both use hydraulics I think
who else is watching this a day before they are going on a trip to a theme park😂😂
Her reaction was to laugh, as was the friend’s. I can definitely see how it could scare someone, but she was in 0% more danger than she was beforehand.