Hey thank you so much for saying that. I really do try to make these videos as streamlined and engaging as possible while being thorough. Really cool for you give me a shout out for that
Whoa, you did such a great job breakingdown this decades long series into a cohesive story. Cool to know the backstory of how the original was made. Keep em coming!
@@exitsexamined A game thats almost like Cyberpunk but Tron based would put the franchise over imo. I hope Tron: Ares will be worth the wait, especially after Bridges got signed on!
The most chilling line I've heard from a 'computer' is and always will be "End of line." And yeah, that even considers all of the great lines from Portal.
The first time I've heard of Tron was watching a VHS that recorded a bit of the Disney Channel stuff, including the Disney segment "Imagine: Computer Realities". The Tron films were certainly well liked by most people, so much so that Tetsuya Nomura adapted the Tron film for the Kingdom Hearts 2 game and Tron Legacy for the Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance game.
Found you through your warrior cats video and I had to subscribe with how well made and researched it was. Loved this one as well. Keep up with the niche nerdy topics, you’re doing it so good!
So the second thing that I want to address is that as a long-time Tron fan since the first movie Disney keeps refusing to do a thing that the video game 2.0 did years ago that I as a fan have wanted to see. Every time I ask people what they want to see in a new Tron film they had the exact same idea. Mentioned in your video. What's so amazing about the first Tron movie is that it was a time capsule to what computing and technology was like during the late '70s to early '80s. It was mainly focused on cheap arcade games high-end simulations and were mainly featured in companies and universities. See all of that reflected in the first film. What made Legacy even though I liked it? Extremely disappointing and why I'm also not excited for Aries is because I feel like what people want to see is that same concept but now. With the Tron aesthetic look like with modern computing. So much has changed since the '80s between actual artificial intelligence to the rise and popularity of Internet and social media to Super advanced video games, interconnected devices that are all wireless and everything in between. This is the Tron people want to see they Don't want to go back to the simple grid times of the '80s. They want to see what tron's Universe would look like today with the stuff we have today and until Disney does that. I don't think audience is going to connect with it.
The one thing you missed as far as TRON content, THE RIDE! to me the roller coaster opening in the Magic Kingdom in 2023 is a huge step forward in terms of franchise growth. By putting it in a park that essentially markets itself, the franchise doesn't need much pull giving it the position of raising awareness for those not initiated into the series
That's a great point! I usually focus on digital media so I think I had my blinders on - I 'll have to add that in the description because your right it is a major push on disney's part to revitalize the series. ave you been to it?
@exitsexamined why yes I have! I flew down there to be present on opening day. And then I released a review of it on the 41st anniversary of the original film
Oh nice, I just discovered this channel. You say you explore what happened to popular series that passed their prime a long time ago, and I was wondering if you plan to do a video on Animorphs
More great coverage. Tron was definitely a childhood favorite. Honestly, my only two real problems with Legacy was the set up for getting the kid into/on to the grid took way too long.....and the fact that Tron should look like Bruce Boxlightner NOT Jeff Bridges. Clu and Flynn look like Jeff Bridges. Thanx for the great content my friend!
Hey thanks so much for watching and the kind words! I agree, it did take awile for Sam to actually get into the grid itself, it will be interesting to see if the upcoming film will start directly in the grid or not!
7:40 This is one of my biggest complaints about Legacy. The original Tron tried so hard to create a genuinely alien world, plausibly extrapolating its ideas and design from computer tech. But Legacy just looks like an Apple Store designed by 70s Stanley Kubrick. And why is there so much fog and smoke? A computer realm wouldn't even have an atmosphere! (*muttergrumble*) Oh, and it was the second movie to do de-aging VFX. The first was X-Men: The Last Stand. Which did it a bit better, imo.
I laughed so hard when you said the crossover between Kubrick and an Apple store haha. I can't unsee it. I got Carlo Scarpa architect vibes from it, which would make sense because the director came from an architect background but the apple store thing is hilarious. Fair point on smoke as well lol P.S and shoutout to muttergrumble, I'm 100% going to use that in conversations
Great video! Look forward to more 💚 Suggestion for future video from me would be the Bioshock game series. Love, love, loved those games, incredibly creative and thought provoking story, imo could compete with the likes of The Last of Us if ever adapted in terms of audience and critical reception if done right. Anyway, keep up the good work 😊🙏🏽
Hey thanks so much for the kind words! I would love to do Bioshock but I feel like a ton of youtubers have done the series to death, although I guess not in the same framework as looking at the series as a whole and it's trajectory...you gave me a lot to think about haha
So two things. One is one of the main reasons why Tron Legacy didn't have a sequel was that it actually made enough impact at Disney. Wanted to do it but then Disney bought out Star Wars and basically to them Tron was their sci-fi in-house movie. That was their version of Star Wars and now they literally had Star Wars at home after the purchase. So they scrapped all the Tron stuff to do the Star War. I'm a fan of both, but it's ironic that now that Star Wars had dipped since the introduction of the sequels that now they're going back to Tron. I'm going to make a second thing in a separate comment.
“Disney’s black sheep.” “Doesn’t get talked about enough.” “Massively underrated.” I’m beginning to notice a theme here 😂 Really hope Tron gets the smash hit/runaway success it deserves one of these days
haha yeah I guess I should have renamed the video. It's weird though because although commercially most of the media was never successful the movies at least are for the most part seemingly popular. I'm hoping Ares will be a huge hit and get everyone into the older stuff
I saw the original Tron in the theater and I watched the new one too. Sad to say, I did not feel it was a spiritual successor. Though arguably, there never could be.
That's true, I think the weird thing about all these sequels compared to other series is that they're all like 20 years apart so it makes it really hard for a lot of the same techniques and people who literally worked on the films to be the same. So I guess it is inevitable that they will have some spiritual dissonance which is too bad in some ways.
@@exitsexamined Also a lot of Tron's charm was a certain naivete when it came to technology. Audiences are much more sophisticated about technology these days.
There was much to Disney's dismay, an actual Tron II movie that came out in the 70's. I bought a two disk collection for it, made by Disney, around the time legacy came out. Sadly after about five years the disk rotted and became unplayable and I have not been able to find a replacement since.
haha ok to clarify, I think it's a good film. But like any work of media it does some things (world building, visuals, set design, concepts, sound design) brillantly, and other things (dialogue, plot, character development) bot as brillantly. But overall I love it which is why I wanted to cover it instead o Rebel Moon haha
I never saw the original but I really did love Tron: Legacy. Looked incredible, great action and good story. I am less excited about the idea of Tron: Ares though. Sounds like a bad ripoff of Terminator and totally not what Tron is meant to be about.
Oh no, I haven't had a chance to look into the recent update about Ares yet - didn't realize it was shaping up to be a terminator type movie - it's a fair point if most of the story takes place in the real world it would takeaway from the main point which is the grid
@@exitsexamined To clarify, your video was the first I heard of Ares, I was simply making assumptions. Honestly based on what little you mentioned of Ares, the first thing I thought of was Terminator, but worse.
Great video! I wonder am I the only one who really didn't like the Tron sequel/reboot thingy? It was hyped to the max and I was so so so excited after the original but. . . .walked from theatre really disapointed. The visuals were amazing, loved that bit but the plot? Not so much =(
Tron Legacy is a gorgeous movie that fails in every imaginable way to be a follow up to Tron. It bears almost no connective tissue to the original concept, doesn't understand that Tron is a fantasy sword and sorcery epic that happens to be in a computer, and chickens out on updating the conceit of the setting by isolating everything on a closed server instead of using the modern status of computers in society to create something equally groundbreaking and relevant today. A technical triumph but a creative misfire.
That's a fair point a hindsight been good to point to add to the video - the seqeul, conceptionally at least does play it pretty safe. Conisdering all the amazing concepts that could be explored in the world the story is more focused on family and coming of age. We'll see what happens with Tron Ares, hopefully with the advent of AI and metaverse the creators will play with the concepts more
‘As a kid, when I saw Tron Legacy’ makes me feel very, very old, having seen the first one on release.
Same.
You really do have a talent for video making my man. I don't think a single second of this video went to waste.
Hey thank you so much for saying that. I really do try to make these videos as streamlined and engaging as possible while being thorough. Really cool for you give me a shout out for that
Whoa, you did such a great job breakingdown this decades long series into a cohesive story. Cool to know the backstory of how the original was made. Keep em coming!
Great breakdown, brother. The series defiently deserves some love, one of my core memories of what a digital future would like like was always Tron.
Thanks so much for the kind words! I totally feel the same and I bet millions of other people do too.
@@exitsexamined A game thats almost like Cyberpunk but Tron based would put the franchise over imo. I hope Tron: Ares will be worth the wait, especially after Bridges got signed on!
Both films really had amazing potential and are destined to age well
My hope is that the third entry will do really well, like the recent Fallout show and revitalize intersts in the previous films
The most chilling line I've heard from a 'computer' is and always will be "End of line." And yeah, that even considers all of the great lines from Portal.
The first time I've heard of Tron was watching a VHS that recorded a bit of the Disney Channel stuff, including the Disney segment "Imagine: Computer Realities".
The Tron films were certainly well liked by most people, so much so that Tetsuya Nomura adapted the Tron film for the Kingdom Hearts 2 game and Tron Legacy for the Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance game.
Oh that's a great point, I should have mentioned the kingdom hearts 2 reference!
Found you through your warrior cats video and I had to subscribe with how well made and researched it was. Loved this one as well. Keep up with the niche nerdy topics, you’re doing it so good!
Hey thanks so much for checking out the other videos! I really appreciate the kind words! Yes I plan to nerd harder
So the second thing that I want to address is that as a long-time Tron fan since the first movie Disney keeps refusing to do a thing that the video game 2.0 did years ago that I as a fan have wanted to see. Every time I ask people what they want to see in a new Tron film they had the exact same idea. Mentioned in your video. What's so amazing about the first Tron movie is that it was a time capsule to what computing and technology was like during the late '70s to early '80s. It was mainly focused on cheap arcade games high-end simulations and were mainly featured in companies and universities. See all of that reflected in the first film. What made Legacy even though I liked it? Extremely disappointing and why I'm also not excited for Aries is because I feel like what people want to see is that same concept but now. With the Tron aesthetic look like with modern computing. So much has changed since the '80s between actual artificial intelligence to the rise and popularity of Internet and social media to Super advanced video games, interconnected devices that are all wireless and everything in between. This is the Tron people want to see they Don't want to go back to the simple grid times of the '80s. They want to see what tron's Universe would look like today with the stuff we have today and until Disney does that. I don't think audience is going to connect with it.
There will never ever be art like Tron and Tron Legacy ever again. Writing and acting aside, I love everything about the pure artistry.
tron legacy was my favorite movie for such a long time and it made me get into daft punk !
The one thing you missed as far as TRON content, THE RIDE! to me the roller coaster opening in the Magic Kingdom in 2023 is a huge step forward in terms of franchise growth. By putting it in a park that essentially markets itself, the franchise doesn't need much pull giving it the position of raising awareness for those not initiated into the series
That's a great point! I usually focus on digital media so I think I had my blinders on - I 'll have to add that in the description because your right it is a major push on disney's part to revitalize the series. ave you been to it?
@exitsexamined why yes I have! I flew down there to be present on opening day. And then I released a review of it on the 41st anniversary of the original film
Oh nice, I just discovered this channel. You say you explore what happened to popular series that passed their prime a long time ago, and I was wondering if you plan to do a video on Animorphs
Also, Tron made an apperance in Kindgom Hearts 2 as well =)
More great coverage. Tron was definitely a childhood favorite. Honestly, my only two real problems with Legacy was the set up for getting the kid into/on to the grid took way too long.....and the fact that Tron should look like Bruce Boxlightner NOT Jeff Bridges. Clu and Flynn look like Jeff Bridges. Thanx for the great content my friend!
Hey thanks so much for watching and the kind words! I agree, it did take awile for Sam to actually get into the grid itself, it will be interesting to see if the upcoming film will start directly in the grid or not!
7:40 This is one of my biggest complaints about Legacy. The original Tron tried so hard to create a genuinely alien world, plausibly extrapolating its ideas and design from computer tech. But Legacy just looks like an Apple Store designed by 70s Stanley Kubrick. And why is there so much fog and smoke? A computer realm wouldn't even have an atmosphere! (*muttergrumble*)
Oh, and it was the second movie to do de-aging VFX. The first was X-Men: The Last Stand. Which did it a bit better, imo.
I laughed so hard when you said the crossover between Kubrick and an Apple store haha. I can't unsee it. I got Carlo Scarpa architect vibes from it, which would make sense because the director came from an architect background but the apple store thing is hilarious.
Fair point on smoke as well lol
P.S and shoutout to muttergrumble, I'm 100% going to use that in conversations
Thank you
Thank you for watching!
Great video! Look forward to more 💚 Suggestion for future video from me would be the Bioshock game series. Love, love, loved those games, incredibly creative and thought provoking story, imo could compete with the likes of The Last of Us if ever adapted in terms of audience and critical reception if done right. Anyway, keep up the good work 😊🙏🏽
Hey thanks so much for the kind words! I would love to do Bioshock but I feel like a ton of youtubers have done the series to death, although I guess not in the same framework as looking at the series as a whole and it's trajectory...you gave me a lot to think about haha
So two things. One is one of the main reasons why Tron Legacy didn't have a sequel was that it actually made enough impact at Disney. Wanted to do it but then Disney bought out Star Wars and basically to them Tron was their sci-fi in-house movie. That was their version of Star Wars and now they literally had Star Wars at home after the purchase. So they scrapped all the Tron stuff to do the Star War. I'm a fan of both, but it's ironic that now that Star Wars had dipped since the introduction of the sequels that now they're going back to Tron. I'm going to make a second thing in a separate comment.
Why was there never a good Tron game where you got to explore the interior of the Tron world?
Well there were a few games that I covered that do let you do that! Do you mean like a AAA game?
Kingdom Hearts 2 did it
“Disney’s black sheep.”
“Doesn’t get talked about enough.”
“Massively underrated.”
I’m beginning to notice a theme here 😂
Really hope Tron gets the smash hit/runaway success it deserves one of these days
haha yeah I guess I should have renamed the video. It's weird though because although commercially most of the media was never successful the movies at least are for the most part seemingly popular. I'm hoping Ares will be a huge hit and get everyone into the older stuff
Also. Mention Tron animated tv series ✅
How could I not, still upset that never got a second season
I saw the original Tron in the theater and I watched the new one too. Sad to say, I did not feel it was a spiritual successor. Though arguably, there never could be.
That's true, I think the weird thing about all these sequels compared to other series is that they're all like 20 years apart so it makes it really hard for a lot of the same techniques and people who literally worked on the films to be the same. So I guess it is inevitable that they will have some spiritual dissonance which is too bad in some ways.
@@exitsexamined Also a lot of Tron's charm was a certain naivete when it came to technology. Audiences are much more sophisticated about technology these days.
There was much to Disney's dismay, an actual Tron II movie that came out in the 70's. I bought a two disk collection for it, made by Disney, around the time legacy came out. Sadly after about five years the disk rotted and became unplayable and I have not been able to find a replacement since.
How dare you say this movie is not good! This movie is better than most sci-fi made today. Look at rebel Moon, LOL
haha ok to clarify, I think it's a good film. But like any work of media it does some things (world building, visuals, set design, concepts, sound design) brillantly, and other things (dialogue, plot, character development) bot as brillantly. But overall I love it which is why I wanted to cover it instead o Rebel Moon haha
Honestly Tron should stay gone not cause I hate it but because disney would masssacre Tron.
I never saw the original but I really did love Tron: Legacy. Looked incredible, great action and good story. I am less excited about the idea of Tron: Ares though. Sounds like a bad ripoff of Terminator and totally not what Tron is meant to be about.
Oh no, I haven't had a chance to look into the recent update about Ares yet - didn't realize it was shaping up to be a terminator type movie - it's a fair point if most of the story takes place in the real world it would takeaway from the main point which is the grid
@@exitsexamined To clarify, your video was the first I heard of Ares, I was simply making assumptions. Honestly based on what little you mentioned of Ares, the first thing I thought of was Terminator, but worse.
Great video! I wonder am I the only one who really didn't like the Tron sequel/reboot thingy? It was hyped to the max and I was so so so excited after the original but. . . .walked from theatre really disapointed. The visuals were amazing, loved that bit but the plot? Not so much =(
Tron Legacy is a gorgeous movie that fails in every imaginable way to be a follow up to Tron. It bears almost no connective tissue to the original concept, doesn't understand that Tron is a fantasy sword and sorcery epic that happens to be in a computer, and chickens out on updating the conceit of the setting by isolating everything on a closed server instead of using the modern status of computers in society to create something equally groundbreaking and relevant today. A technical triumph but a creative misfire.
That's a fair point a hindsight been good to point to add to the video - the seqeul, conceptionally at least does play it pretty safe. Conisdering all the amazing concepts that could be explored in the world the story is more focused on family and coming of age. We'll see what happens with Tron Ares, hopefully with the advent of AI and metaverse the creators will play with the concepts more
I think Reboot has more connective tissue to Tron than Tron Legacy does.
Tron Evolution is decent gameplay, can confirm 🫡
Nice!! What system do you have it on? Another under-appreciated gem in this franchise sigh