Drive Rollers, Rush Job for the County
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2022
- I helped the welding shop complete a couple drive rollers, a fish job that needed to be finished up quickly to get a vital piece of machinery back up and running for the local utilities authority. I was asked to machine the two shafts need for the rollers while the welding shop provided the pipe and welded them all together.
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I enjoy seeing the new shop come together but definitely nice to see some actual work getting done!
This was created at the house shop
@@philipmackin1025 I'm sure he knows that, what I think he was trying to say it's nice to see some actual machining being done here. I too like the new shop videos but I also _really_ like seeing the machines and Adam working them. :)
@@larry527az3 yep, i started watching another channel just to see some chips flying
@@dakotareid1566 agreed, Kurtis gets more done in a day than other 'youtube machinists' get done in a month. I love how Cutting Edge is a real business with youtube just being a sideline.
You know Adam. After all these years watching you i still really enjoy seeing the 3 generations of engineers in the closing last seconds. Its so heart warming of the love and respect that, that photos shows. Hoping to see a lot more work start to filter in once your new shop is fully commissioned 👍👍
Well, machinists, not engineers.
Adam, you are so right about spares. 26:05 Right out of high school I went to work for General Motors. I worked in a Press Metal factory. Cold sheets of metal were pressed into shapes such as fenders, or transmission brackets. The press behind me made bumpers back when the were shiny chrome metal things. (Look up a photo of the front of the 1975 Oldsmobile 88.) That press broke early in one of my shifts. The machine repair crew came, started working, and the next thing I know a gear 16 inches wide, and 10 feet in diameter is sitting on the floor next to me. By the middle of the afternoon, they had removed the broken gear, and installed the IN STOCK replacement gear. The broken one was missing two teeth, and had six others damaged. The repairman told me they would fix the broken one and put it back in stock. To this day the idea of stocking a gigantic gear as a spare part is mind boggling. That factory was 1/2 mile by 1 mile, and employed 25,000 hourly workers. GM is amazingly huge. It still has 155,000 hourly workers.
As a millwright, I have had managers looking over my shoulder telling me that every minute of downtime is costing them so many thousand dollars. It pays to have a part like that gear in stock.
@@millwrightrick1 Yes, but it costs a lot to have the space and buildings to stock up on everything. What I don't understand though, is that they don't see the advantage of having people and machines working with maintenance and repair, in stead of outsourcing everything.
@@qivarebil2149 Note how many countries are now moving back into manufacturing rather than outsourcing that to China and becoming a service economy. The loss of manufacturing jobs is far more costly than the things built, it is the loss of a workforce who knows how to build anything and the mindset that gives...
I work in HighTech industry, It's "the plan" of run it, as it's cheaper to run a multi-million dollar machine to death, or a section of it, beat it till repairs are 100-250k and shotgun repair an entire section or the whole machine.
They make 1B profit a month, after ALL current operations costs activities, so they actually really DON'T CARE whatsoever, the "plan works profitably" but make ppl think they do care.
Corporations are beasts and only care about profits at the end of the day!
The whiny managers are slaves like workers just making the "system" function and Move along to keep the mule team marching and things progressing.
Because I SEE MORE then these bind idiots from managers to the Top exec's, I ACTUALLY DO know How to make thing FAR better on ALL levels of things yet its rare they can hear a single piece of common sense ,, especially when its a WIN/WIN for self labor pains and real metrics of profits results.
High Tech only makes "logic" (chips circuitry) They DON'T use it though!!!
@@millwrightrick1 As an industrial maintenance mechanic I’ve told managers that the longer they stand there watching me work, the longer it will take me to finish the job.
In industry, as on a farm, things are left in place, maintained enthusiastically and used until failure. Then everything stops until a fast economical solution is found and implemented. The work never stops so no single problem can be left unfixed. Men (and women) with your skills are essential….but the farmer is normally on their own. We have to be a jack of all trades. So we watch videos by excellent masters of their craft like yourself and imitate the best we can. Thanks to your skills and knowledge I was able to deal with a blown Diesel engine out in the field and get it running well enough to finish the haying and close out the growing season until I can tear it down properly and rebuild it over the Winter ‘slow’ season.
So nice to see you and the machines being used for real jobs. This is what I miss about this channel the most. We all love seeing you flex and your skills being put to use.
Work in a blow molding plant and I can confirm management cannot be told something is broken until the machine is no longer making bottles then it’s a large show of “first time I’m hearing this” and “how do we prevent this” then they will overnight bearings at an exuberant cost and rush a shaft when we could have replaced it a month ago but it wasn’t in the budget.
Just spent 6 months working at a GM Powertrain factory and its the same thing with 20-25 y.o. machines. Every week one of the stations has a massive oil leak of 5-10g requiring them to either slow production as part of a line is down, or actually shut a line down waiting for repairs.
Gotta keep production up, even though they're filling parking lots with incomplete vehicles due to chip shortage....
Forget lawyers and politicians and bankers and insurance salesmen, it is so gratifying to watch the people who really make this country function using their skills and doing their jobs.
As a mechanic I appreciate you guys when I need something in a hurry ty
Yes, usually in Industry theyll run machines into the ground in order to make profi. Glad to see you take care of your equipment.
I love watching you build new ones from scratch. The before/after comparisons give the best feeling, seeing all that nice new shiny metal shaped to perfection.
This brings back memories. In my school holidays I helped to saw off hundreds and hundreds of pipes and rods for conveyor belt retrofitting at a mining company. After a while I was shown to assemble the smaller support rollers on my own. With the money from that job I was able to buy my first computer. 😁
I will bet when the new one breaks they will put in the spare and not order a new spare and be in the same mess all over again. that’s sounds about right lol 😂
Or scrap the machine next week !!
Really enjoy seeing the end product. That’s a nice surprise. Great video as always.
From New Yankee Workshop to Abom79 to Curtis from CEE there is something very calming about watching a master working at their craft, keep up the good work
I believe that roller is part of the Turd Masher 2000 at the sewage treatment plant
Ye olde Clod Buster :-D
I Really enjoy these "Hey Man" jobs alot 👍👍😊😊
Can't get enough of this. I went to "school" for tool and die, but when it progressed into the CNC portion I lost all interest and parted ways. Good old fashioned manual machining is a humble living. Plus I just love the smell of them oily chips ! Haha.
Good to see some machining again... don't want to let your skills atrophy!
I am still shocked at how much wear that is. That must have been rattling like a Metallica drum kit lol 😂
It doesn't take much. I've got a picture of one that broke at work a few months back. The surface of the pulley wore down and finally collapsed. Luckily it was a known issue and the parts had just come it to replace the pulley, after a 3month+ wait on the order, and me(an equipment operator) personally speccing the parts as our shop couldn't figure out what was needed.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 You're telling me there wasnt a single fitter in your team of engineers that couldn't measure a pulley and a shaft? I very much doubt that. In all my years as a maintenance tech I've never even heard of an operator ordering parts for a machine as, A) Its not in the scope of work for an operator, and B) Youre not qualified as a maintenance engineer so I dont see how the maintenance crew would be cool with you to be ordering the parts for their job. No offence Im sure youre a skilled operator but I dont see how the situation would come about that you would be doing the work of a technician.
Absolutely love that comparison!🥁🥁🥁
M B I’m ravensbar’s defence I have seen a shaft on an agitation system chew itself up after 1 run. This was due to the end user not specifying the medium it was agitating therefore the designers didn’t accommodate for that. It’s all in the details and from my experience we can all be the worlds best maintenance techs but if the system was never specked correctly we can never blame poor design or maintenance
M B this post is not an argument it is a discussion about previous experiences to a mutual understanding of what this video represents. If we are going down that route ask yourself is it the operator at fault or the engineer that wouldn’t engage and help the operator out. Maybe the company’s processes don’t give enough emphasis on PPMs. As such the internal customer losses faith in the engineer that could not communicate effectively probably because they got blamed for the fault. I’m my opinion the operator had no choice and was a bit more proactive about it. If we work mutually it avoids wonky shafts and broken machinery. I respect operators for the knowledge they have on machinery they see every hour of every day. If us as engineers work with operators we form a mutual trust. Scoffing at them does not work. We are not special in this world.
Thank you for the thorough explanations and practical application exploration into the important role machine shops play in our everyday lives. You remind us of the indispensable importance of behind the scenes skilled “labor”. I quote labor because society has made it a dirty word and implies it is lesser of a career than others, but you respectfully publicly remind everyone that we would be lost without skilled craftspeople to keep our world in productive running order. Learning your craft makes going to college look like a walk in the park and it’s time to shine the light of respect and admiration on you. Machining looks easy, but we know it’s impossibly difficult to do well accurately, precisely, and correct. Thank you for the lessons in measuring with “cheap” precision instruments! It’s never easy dedicating a scientific instrument to the rough work, but it’s necessary to keep time and tolerance.
Appreciate you every day my friend,
-CY Castor
What society makes it a dirty word? None I've ever lived in. Show me where and I'll believe ya. Those elements of society who refer to labor as a dirty word are otherwise known as "pussies".
All labor is skilled.
This brings back memories of my past. As all of us know in the maintenance and metal crafts, nothing like a break down on a vital machine to bring all hands on deck! I laughed when I saw the roller assembly. The customer sure got their money's worth from that shaft assembly! 😂
As usual, your attention to detail, quick work, and narrative were fantastic. The fact you and Joe have a great working relationship shows what working together can have a job leave a smile on your faces.
Thanks for sharing Adam. 👍👍👍
Great to see how different specialist shops work together to handle emergencies. 👏
For the last 5 days i have been addicted to Abom79
Quality educated content thanx man keep up and i wish you all luck
In this day and age, lots of folks are running it til it breaks due to parts cost and availability. It's tough times for sure. But I hear you on the "Run until it breaks and then make it everyone's emergency." As always, nicely done 👌
First time I have seen you use a Shaper/Planer gauge......I recently bought one
to help a guy out who was selling, now I know another use for it.....
Thanks Adam......
Very satisfying to see these kinds of jobs coming into your shop again Adam. Looks like you are equipping the new shop to kick that up another notch.
I love this stuff. I don't know why, but watching Adam turning a shaft is a joy and pleasure for me. LOL. Doesn't everybody wait until a significant part breaks? Why spend money on routine maintenance when it is so much fun to pay Adam for a Rush Job?
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Keep on rolling Adam, thank you for a great video.
You are very good at what you do. you can till you love doing what you do. the pride you take in your work shows how much you enjoy it. Thank you for taking the time to make your video mate all the best great video and great work 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍
Classic Abom. Thanks Adam, I always enjoy the “hey man” repair videos.
BTW nice finish on the cold rolled! That is one steel that seems to cut prettier the more hell you give it.
Thanks for sharing. So nice to see you back in the shop again.
Good video. I miss that kind of work.
i work on conveyors. let me tell ya, that was ran way past what my shop would have considered functional failure.
I used to spec new conveyors for customers back in the '80s. Always amazed how many of them would just run to failure and THEN want a rush job! Sold Pumps and Compressors too. Had one guy with BIG horizontal split-case turbine pump with a bad shaft. For some reason because we sold the pumps, he expected us to have every part for every different one in OUR stock! Nope. Called the manufacturer and the lead time on the shaft was a month. Dude went ballistic on me and then expected ME to make one! I could have but we weren't a machine shop. Told him so and suggested he have a local machine shop make him one. SOB actually called MY boss and complained that "*I* wouldn't help him"! I was SO glad when I got a job where I didn't have to deal with customers! And dealing with vendors is a WHOLE different ballgame! :(
@@PhilG999 it's crazy. my maintenance shop includes machine tools. even then we still stock spare parts.
I don't understand why I never get tired of watching these videos
Holy _moly_ !! It was only at 11:22 that I fully realised what had happened to the original shafts! I thought that there was plenty of lathe work to follow…. and then it hit me, that was _all_ wear, not feature. 😂
Always nice to see a repair video. Thank you.
Your friend needs to show some love to the screw jacks.
These repair jobs are always interesting. Thanks for taking the time to show them.
I really enjoy watching.
Great video. I used to do repairs just like this all the time. Real bread and butter work for shops I used to work in. I am a pencil pusher now, but I still enjoy watching it.
Man! This one hit home. I've changed hundreds of shafts like that. Sometimes they make us weld them up. We use to have a lathe and an old mill but they got rid of them because of liability reasons.
You make it look so easy to make a replacement part. I love to watch you videos
Pure destruction on that 2nd roller drum!!! Looks similar to a conveyer belt roller drum.
Always, always make spares! Once you are tooled up, producing another identical part is a trivial matter {even considering the cost of the materials involved}. I'm now retired, but spent over 30 years working part-time in my home basement making fancy circuit boards for specialty geophysical instruments. If my business partner {in another city} needed to ship 8 complete systems, I'd fab 9 or 10 sets of cards. That way, if one of them was out-of-spec when we later assembled each system {in his basement shop}, we always had a fall-back & I could diagnose & fix the problem later on my own time. Worked well for us as a small-shop manufacturing strategy, but of course "your mileage may vary"...
Miss seeing shop work making things thats what i love to see
Great vid Abom!! Cool to see a little more of how the industry works.
Y'all are the backbone of America.
Thanx for sharing Adam..!☺👍
This reminds of when we used to do plastic injection mold repair for Wagner/Federal Mogul. They would bring one (or several) molds at a time, the smallest still weighing half a ton and the big ones around 3-4 tons. They would drop it off one day and want it back the day before 😬 not really but they killed a lot of your work time calling and asking when you would be done.
Grate machine work Abom79 thanks for sharing
I like your lufkin micrometer!!
Made in Saginaw Michigan
No messin' ! Top job as usual, Adam! Thank you for sharing. Nice job using the radius coin inserts - pure manual skill needed on them.
It is nice to get to see a real time job. Thanks Adam.
Fun vid. Always nice to see how the part is to be used.
Nice work Abom. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
The old Monarch and Do-All are jealous now that you've been playing with those brandy-new machines at the other shop. They wanted to show you they could still save the day for the county.
Wonderful Video, learned a few uses for tools I never knew about......Bravo
Crazy good filming on the Do All. Great show. Thanks
Awesome. Love you see you getting it done!
I really liked the presentation on this video Adam a little knowledge as to why the job is for always make it interesting for me. I was a certified welder in my day and was considering machine work after getting a touch in trade school but never pursued it. Sure wish I had. Kudos on this one.
it's nice to see how these parts you make go into the machines you make them for....... good way to end a video.
Beautiful work Adam fair play to u .
Nice seeing the fab work !
You know how having an extra in stock works out, when it gets used it's like, We don;t need to order that right now, we get X years out of these . we don;t have the budget right now. then it gets forgotten until tragedy strikes again!
Excellent work as usual. Keep up the great videos.
The sped up footage really does your amazing videos a disservice
I work a bunch of rolls of a similar style, those gauge blocks are very important for keyways!
great machine work my man!
Very good explanation 👏
I enjoyed watching this, you are a very good machinist.
Merci Adam, magnifique vidéo 👍🏻
Nice job Adam!
Great Bread & Butter job! Thanks for sharing
Great work & explanation.
Awesome job!! We've been seeing lots of roller repairs lately too.
Great to see you here! I got my bushing material in today! Another rush job 😁
It's ballot printing season.
@@Abom79 Could you tell me number of insert that you use on lathe 4 times and then you use it on a milling machine for a face milling?
You said it some time in your previous video but i cant find it.Also whats the name of round insert on 7:44 ?
Hey Adam, what kind of light is that at the quill? It looks like you got a dog on there?
Nice Work. Great Video
Very nice video thanks for sharing.
I have rebuilt several rollers and shafts very similar to what you have there.
As for the shaft; you can get those shafts fully-keyed in hardened and ground shafting. Makes the job so much easier - as you only have to cut to length and machine the one end, significantly reducing the fab/down time.
Great work, thanks
awesome work Adam
Very ,very educational videos 📹 👌
" Have a spare one on the shelf so your equipment is not down for too long" . I don't know how many times I had arguments with our Management teams saying the exact thing but they were more interested in budgets , That is until the system went down and all hell breaks loose. lol
Some people have vision, some people need to learn the hard way!
What gets to me is that they call themselves "Management."😃
Well done 👍👍
Glad to see someone else is getting the shaft
I work maintenance at a greenhouse that has over a thousand feet of conveyors, Seen drive and idler rolls fail like this so many times, it is very cool to see the machine shop side of the repair/ manufacturing of them. Awesome video! PM is a hard thing to keep up with and lots of issues were weld failures on the shaft to side plates of the rolls. Poor mount design on the belts for the type of application/load.
We had a customer once who bought 4 new machines from us and then also bought almost enough spare parts and assemblies to build themselves a fifth. That's the way to do it if your budget allows.
These are your best videos Adam, thanks for sharing
Great video!
We have a few sharp lathes like that at work for maintenance and fab use... gets the job and then some. Better than no lathe!
Always enjoy your videos definitely a thumbs up
Nice job Adam.
very good job , like these videos
Good job
Bloody good stuff 👌
Robert
cool stuff..infectious smile!
Just a clarification: QD bushings are Morse, Taper Lock are Reliance-Dodge. Sold them both for 5 years back in the '80s. I always preferred to use the Taper Lock, but customers bought them both about equally.
Thought I'd mention it because ordering a QD hub for a Taper Lock sheave/pulley/sprocket (and vice versa) will cost someone time because they are NOT interchangeable! ;)
I always preferred the Taper Lock bushings. They tend to work better in tight spots over the QD types.
Yep, we've something similar happen with a couple of legacy machines. Really poor design but they work. All geared timing off a main shaft. Last year one sheared clean in two, nearly a month of downtime to hunt for specs etc. No specs found as to material etc so an external company turned up a new one from harder steel, worked fine, few months later the other machine had the same thing. This year, both sheared with a month of each.....
The company forgot a relief curve at a step down point and used too strong a material.... no give so it just snapped clean through.
We've got bets on how long the new one's last..... hee
Great to see you living your dream Adam, you and family have a good one
When you power fed that tap, I was like "oh no". I need some of that magic blue goo for myself. Thanks for sharing!
Those spiral flute taps are made for power tapping. Gotta get some Anchor Lube for my garage/workshop but a can of it will last longer than I have years left! ;)
Thank God for DRO.. without which centering the keyway is so much more fun.
Great content as always 🤙🏻