Yes, like; rhythm and lead, rhythmic and none rhythmic, acoustic and electric, professional and hobbyist, classical and modern, emotional and robotic, ect, ect, ect...
Notice he didn't say anything about bass guitars involved with any of this? That's the joke. They don't fall into either category because they are neither. They are nothing.
Not only is Paul a great player, he happens to be a great teacher as well which is something few players at his lever are able to do. He takes time to explain things, doesn't try to talk too technical so a intermediate player can understand him
+rbagel55 He's a great guy. I had the opportunity to talk to him quiet intensively in Germany and I even gigged with him! He was a genuine real nice guy and showed a lot of interest in people like me and I'm a nobody :)
the stuff he's addressing in this video is so basic, I imagined only kids would learn something new from this. I mean even if you're not playing an instrument you can tell when the guitar has a rhythm to it or not (which in most cases it has because that's how music works).
@@Cymanytb I think you missed the point of the video. Pauls point is that you should think more rhythmically when soloing and not just when playing rhythm parts which a lot of people dont do.
@@Cymanytb why is it you feel the need to devalue or insult anyones intelligence based on what you call "basic information". Im gonna say what it is i think you're doing. you're grasping at any chance you can to put yourself above everyone and attempting to feel impressive or like you clearly "know your stuff". I can already tell you, paul would instantly put you down for suggesting that this is "basic" information. You'll find many guitar virtuosos who wouldnt even have known this. Oh might i add you're replying to one of the most renown and respected guitar players alive right now. The one who taught many successful and even famous guitarists. Having said that, you're not impressing anyone.
It's not really THAT hard, I mean it's not easy for guitarists with little experience, but the reason not too many play it is because of all the noted involved in it and a lot of people don't have the patience to learn it note for note
***** i was holding in my undying need to punch something during the entirety of the video because of it, just wonderful and not at all excruciating to try and bypass.
He is quite human. *He answers the questions ... You are ABOUT to ask* ? Like ... how do I get the girls ? Short Answer " Like This " . " " " " " " " ? Long Answer UHm... Like -Uhm _ This Here .
@@Eddieshred If it's recorded on an album then it's a song. Even if it wasn't recorded. It's referred to as an instrumental. Every studio album had a track dedicated to just being ann instrumental.
@@jjkhawaiian Yeah that originated out of pure laziness and would be better called a track. Every other track on the album is a song though. I see people referring to classical symphonies as 'songs' all the time as well which is rediculous.
This is exactly why I like Opeth solos. They combine shreddy parts really well with rhythmic parts, and Mikael's more bluesy solos do a fantastic job of playing with the rhythm without losing it.
I still think the best quote about music involving two categories is by Duke Ellington "There are two kinds of music, the good kind and the other kind. I like both."
I don't play music, but this makes me appreciate the many facet's of expression that can be utilized when musicians try to represent what they feel, I appreciate all of those that attempt to try their footing in the musical setting. God's speed to those of you still aspiring to express your self properly, good luck.
Very well said, Mr. Gilbert. At the end, he touched on something I never thought of before, so this was definitely worth the time to listen to this mini sermon.
Its important to understand he isn't saying one is positive or negative. It's positive to combine these ideas, where as doing only 1 of either is negative. The "nonrhythmic" is taking some heat here but that playing done at the right time resolving properly adds "intensity". I love Pauls technical difficulties solo over the "comfortably numb" chord progression the rhythmic melodies seem to soar while the nonrhythmic build anticipation for the next set of melodic notes and visa versa.
"Locking into the groove!" A shredder can play 500 notes and I would have no idea who it was. BB King could play just 1 note and almost anyone on earth would instantly know who that was. You're so right Paul. It's not the notes, it's where you put them.
I thought he say, _"There are two types of guitarists - the ones who practise hard and can play guitar and the other ones who hang on guitars forums and talk about guitars."_ And if it was Yngwie, _"There are two types of guitarists - me and them."_ (I like YJM though.)
add to this melody and you've got some tasty music. so many guitarists, *i'm guilty* spend years trying to shred and don't learn how to play effectively in the box. for example, slash is a brilliant player combining melody and rhythm in his work. angus young is another.
Not only your guitar play, Paul, but also your words are always an opportunity for anyone to get plurality, ie, horizons. Thanks for sharing the perspectives.
if you have an opinion and are egotistical enough to think of it as universal, there's something wrong with you! i was paying attention to the words, not waiting for a free concert. don't make assumptions about people without having a good reason for it besides being overly assured you're right because the people you surround yourself with will not challenge you! i didn't smile, bring it on!
Got to jam with Paul when I was 14/15. Even as a young man he was super supportive and kind to all the players. He announced that he had left Racer X and that he was going to go play with, "Billy Freakin' Sheehan!" He has always been a laid back funny guy serious about his craft. He'd be a good bandmate. Thanks for sharing the video.
You probably already know this, in fact may be why you said what you said, but I'll just go ahead and mention that Paul is left handed. He just chose to play righty.
Surely the number one things we love in guitar playing and music in general is feeling and soul. Not speed, but it can be good if it has the feel, interlocked with the rhythm section. My 2cents
PAUL G came up in the speed metal days ,imagine if it was during the blues hay day or even jazz ,which never had any recognition back then unless u were club rat in Chicago!
Absolutely! If you play a "wrong" note but in time/rhythm, it still sounds good and most people won't notice. This is especially true in jazz, but also Baroque/classical styles like Bach.
People who complain about music having no feeling or soul are really just complaining that they can't find an actual reason not to like something. I can play something with no feeling and still make people think it does, and I can play with all the feeling in the universe and have nobody pick up on it. Music and art in general just works that way. If you hear a death metal song and there's something you find in there, awesome. If you hear the latest dance club hit on the radio and you find something in there, awesome. If you hear old-school gangster rap and find something in there, awesome. If you hear something and can't find a single trace of anything in there, I don't know what to tell you. You've lost at music.
I think that the whole purpose of this video is to help people work on their speed technique and cleanliness. Emotion(soul) is more easily integrated when the player understands what they are playing. This isn't a video that is trying to teach you how to make a great song. This is a video that aims to open you up to new patterns and technique which can possibly aid you in composing a great song. Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with your point. Speed is fine if used correctly, but if you can't be a well rounded musician it is going to be hard for people to respect you as a musician. Just saying that this video aims to help people in their technique, and not to impress style or soul on the viewer
Thank you Mr. Gilbert! Couldn't have said it better myself - what a simple, effective explanation of guitar playing and it's two dominant forms - rhythm and lead. "Guitar parts are either locked into a groove or are free-form" and both compliment each other well to my ears...and hands :) Nice explanation PGM.
The Jet City Woman solo is a great example of locking into the beat for a bar or two, letting loose & going free-form for a couple bars, locking back in, & floating back out. I think that's part of what makes that solo so epic, to me.
This. One can say that what Paul describes as non-rhythmic is likely to have a more complex relationship to the underlying rhythm, and not betray the same degree of rhythmic intention, but to call is non-rhythmic is something of a misnomer.
The title is INCORRECT it should be “two types of GUITAR PLAYING” not “two types of guitarIST” that typo makes the whole point incorrect and in the video, you can even hear him say “guitar playING”.
Curious that he talked about EVH's Eruption as a 'free timing' example, because there is (almost) no drums backing it, and EVH is a monster rhythm guitarist as well. When I think 'free' soloists I think YJM or Satch
It's still pretty free, lots of tuplets in there, and because someone is a great rhythm player doesn't mean they can't play like this. What he means is that people favor one or the other generally
It was more a look at the piece than Eddie. I think he wanted as familiar an example as possible. Then he goes and corrects himdelf about it. Classic Gilbert. He's a quick and informative teacher, correcting himself on the fly. And you're right, Eddie is a helluva rhythm player.
tacomadc I'm not a big Eddie fan. But I can't deny that he added to the instrument. He definitely has his own voice and knows what he's doing. Without a doubt worth learning from.
he's not talking about if you can keep in time, he's talking about playing in such a way that the listener can feel the groove of the song, emphasising the beats or off-beats of the song
Doug Martsch of Built to Spill is a spectacular rhythmic guitar player. The end of Carry the Zero is a perfect example. Simple riff, but completely locked in with the band. Check it out. Very underrated guitar player.
PG really is a master guitarist and musician,hands down one of the best players around and a great guy to boot,met him after a gig once,we had a quick chat and he gave me some picks🤘
When you, (on guitar), lock in with the bass player and drummer providing a real groove, a swinging soloist can go anywhere with a tune. Once you see people tapping their foot or bopping their head, ya got 'em!
@@jamieward1871 hmmm... I think you have punched a hole in my theory... I have reevaluated my theory and adjusted my original comment due to your very astute correction.
I was just a rhythm palyer for so long i never tried to do lead bits till i was well into 3 years of playing. And its something i figured out when you are locked into a rhythm in lead solos you have a much louder presence as everything carries you and you carry them. Im glad i was basically inadvertently gifted by staying rhythmic for so long but it does also help having perfect time😂
No, he means playing in rhythm, regardless of what type of playing/soloing... shredding in rhythm is still playing in rhythm. If you're going to do it, listen to the beat and lock in with the beat. I believe that this part takes a long time to master and is more about 'feel' then anything else. Seen a lot of people play great on their own, put them in a band situation and they can't lock into a beat... believe me, I was one of them.
cubixthe Not true at all, as Gilbert is a shred guitar player, what it really boils down to is that both are very important and should be used where appropriate. The best example I can think of is listen to the solo of "Holy Thunderforce" by Rhapsody of Fire. Highly technical, shredding type of playing, completely locks with the beat. However, there's some fantastic free form playing in the song of "Number of the Beast" by Iron Maiden, particularly the first solo of the song, where Dave Murray plays more like he's floating above the rhythm in the background. Music isn't about strict rules, sometimes floating between the two is what makes a great solo, or just great playing in general.
TheCrimsonIdol987 Shredding doesnt need to be 'in time', like most of PG´s leads. Many adopt the free form he said, like YJM, Satch and even Rhoads sometimes.
I saw this a few years ago and it totally changed my playing. In my guitar solos I spend more time listening to my rhythm guitarist and bassist then I do my own licks. My goal is to lock in to them so we can product a finished product TOGETHER. I don't care too much about me playing a cool lick. Its about the unit sounding good together.
Non-rhythmic styles only sound good when played really fast. Slow them right down and you see it's actually pretty crap musically. There's a place for it, but people often don't realise how important rhythm is.
If you slow it down it will become rhythmic. Fast stuff/shred is not just hitting frets and picking as fast as you can. They are playing 8th 16th and 32nd notes. They are just not accenting the note played on the beat.
This seems like somewhat of a false dichotomy because it is possible to apply a rhythmic structure to any piece of music, even when it gets funky like 5/4, 7/8, etc. I like what he's saying I just think a better way of phrasing it would be playing in standard time vs. freeform rhythm. Basically I'm saying that rhythm is an intrinsic part of music which can not be removed, no matter how abstract or experimental the piece is.
well of course you can play 16th notes constantly and say it has rhythm when all durations and intervals are the same... just not in the way rhythm is noticed in a piece where note durations and intervals vary in a more pleasing way. but the interesting thing about rhythm, which gilbert doesn't adress, is that rhythmic playing can become apparent on a phrase to phrase basis rather than a note to note basis...so you could play 16th notes all the time and have the more rhythmic feel come from varying the length of the phrases which are tied together. notes have rhythm, notes make phrases. phrases have rhythm, phrases make chorus or verse, chorus and verse have rhythm, chorus and verse make song.
You're just doing the same thing he is doing. He describes the playing as 'Rhythmic' you call it 'standard time' He says 'non-rhythmic' you say free form. Essentially you are tripping up over the semantics of the word 'rhythm' and not absorbing the context of what Paul is saying. What you fail to realise is that all words are just ways of describing concepts. It's like a language game that we are playing. You play different games but with the same set of cards don't you? If someone tried to claim they won a round of poker because it all added up to 21 you'd immediately think they were wrong/crazy/stupid/ etc. Why is it any different for words? We all understand the concept of rhythm throughly, you don't need to explain all the ways that everthing you play has a rhythm, that goes without saying. You purposefully ignore the context of what he is saying to make him wrong by definition. Look I can do the same thing to you.. What exactly do you mean by 'standard time?' standard to who? That's not a musical term I'm familiar with, it's not even in Italian! Etc.. Just because something is 'rhythmic' or 'in standard time'. Doesn't mean you couldn't get quite far out with it rhythmically, with bizarre staccato stabs and long rests. But we would all instinctively know if it was played with the rhythm or played across it. Oah snap I just did it myself. I prefer mine :P
My favorite non-rhythmic guitar player is Kim Thayil. His solos are all over the place. Very original sound and style. Took me a long time to get used to his style and start to appreciate him.
If we take what Paul is saying to heart , this Means Vito Bratta did BOTH Rhythmic and Non Rhythmic Solos together , or Sepearate on White Lion Songs .
Paul was my next door neighbor on yucca st back in the 80's in l.a. very cool guy. He called me over to his car one day and let me listen to his demo's for mr big with Billy Sheehan. Also use to sit in on his classes and seminars at m.i. Awesome guy, he'll show you anything you ask. GREAT TEACHER too
Kenny Ken I find it weird but not unbearable lol but red doesn't really look too great on it. I'd much rather go with a natural finish, and that's IF I even wanted that thing lol.
Yeah, it's a design catastrophe....The human eye can quickly spot a well - crafted, aesthetically pleasing guitar in just a matter of a split-second glance, guitarist or not...I dunno what those guys at IBANEZ were thinking...
Rhytmic guitar = You bang your head
Non-rhytmic guitar = You slowly shake your head like you've lost a small bet
And then you listen to some of Dimebag's solos and your head does this weird sideways wag and then it goes in circles.
Insederec And then you spew vomit all over a priest
Nadzia Skalapendra what is this a reference to? I feel like I know it but can't remember
Seth Watson The Exorcist!
JackofSpades XI The funny thing about this is that I live next to this guitar center
“There are many different two main categories.”
-Paul Gilbert
That’s kinda true tho
true, like people who realize there are many different two main categories, and people who don’t.
Yes, like; rhythm and lead, rhythmic and none rhythmic, acoustic and electric, professional and hobbyist, classical and modern, emotional and robotic, ect, ect, ect...
many different two main
I thought he was going to tell a joke :(
If I'm not mistaken this was the teacher of Buckethead. Don't know buckethead? Look him up and be amazed!
Still waiting for the punch line?
I see what everyone is doing
Legend says he's still waiting for the punchline
Notice he didn't say anything about bass guitars involved with any of this? That's the joke. They don't fall into either category because they are neither. They are nothing.
Not only is Paul a great player, he happens to be a great teacher as well which is something few players at his lever are able to do.
He takes time to explain things, doesn't try to talk too technical so a intermediate player can understand him
+rbagel55 He's a great guy. I had the opportunity to talk to him quiet intensively in Germany and I even gigged with him! He was a genuine real nice guy and showed a lot of interest in people like me and I'm a nobody :)
+George Lucas you're not a nobody, you created star wars ! :D
mastathf I didn't tell him that ;)
i agree. Petrucci is a great teacher too, where as Malmsteen can't teach
Malmsteen has no faith that his student will ever be as good as him. that's whaat makes his videos fun to watch
Great advice!
great advice for kids yes
@@Cymanytb just for kids? ok will not follow this advice. thank you.
the stuff he's addressing in this video is so basic, I imagined only kids would learn something new from this. I mean even if you're not playing an instrument you can tell when the guitar has a rhythm to it or not (which in most cases it has because that's how music works).
@@Cymanytb I think you missed the point of the video. Pauls point is that you should think more rhythmically when soloing and not just when playing rhythm parts which a lot of people dont do.
@@Cymanytb why is it you feel the need to devalue or insult anyones intelligence based on what you call "basic information". Im gonna say what it is i think you're doing. you're grasping at any chance you can to put yourself above everyone and attempting to feel impressive or like you clearly "know your stuff". I can already tell you, paul would instantly put you down for suggesting that this is "basic" information. You'll find many guitar virtuosos who wouldnt even have known this. Oh might i add you're replying to one of the most renown and respected guitar players alive right now. The one who taught many successful and even famous guitarists. Having said that, you're not impressing anyone.
You know that you are a pretty good guitarist when you play eruption to demonstrate a simple point.
It's not a hard song m8
Kinda is dude.
It's not really THAT hard, I mean it's not easy for guitarists with little experience, but the reason not too many play it is because of all the noted involved in it and a lot of people don't have the patience to learn it note for note
Not the point. I can play it too. I agree it involves patience but it shows that Gilbert is the boss at guitar.
mrdeltaforce100 that's undoubt even if its style changed a lot into something more soft :-)
One of the best things i have ever heard a musician say.
Absolutely ... a very intelligent and somehow innovative point of view
He explain 2 types of guitarist but what is the conclusion? Does he means both are good?
@@aykutaydogdu269 Conclusion is that you should stay in rhythm and not go outside of it for too long.
@@aimfuldrifter That is a "no shit sherlock" information. Not a "important detail" kind of thing.
Aykut Aydoğdu No shit Sherlock. But there are some guitar players who still don't understand it.
I really like the sound of the cameraman's lips smacking together the whole time. It really makes the video.
that actually made me laugh out loud, lots haha.
good job.
***** i was holding in my undying need to punch something during the entirety of the video because of it, just wonderful and not at all excruciating to try and bypass.
It was rhythmic.
Hahahaha
Thanks I didn’t notice it until I read this
Excellent explanation of this idea!
Very nice
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I love how Paul explains these concepts (this vs. that) without negating the validity of either style. nice work.
I'm the third type of guitarist: sloppy and awfully mediocre.
Creativity can make up for a lack of proficiency elsewhere. Lots of folks get by on that.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 does that mean hope for my lack of talent or what?
Then you'd be non-rhythmic - because you don't make people nod their heads.
Haha you and me both!
Like same
Paul is a top 5 guitarist all time and he's one of the chillest, humblest people out there.
How's that gum tasting?
Apparently pretty good since they're chomping viciously on it
Someone ate ecstasy before the show.
yeah, chew with your mouth closed!
Joona Jaakkola better than the acetone
Read that coming while eating gum its pretty great lol
He taught me so much in so few time!
Amazing guitar instructor.
He is quite human. *He answers the questions ... You are ABOUT to ask* ?
Like ... how do I get the girls ? Short Answer " Like This " .
" " " " " " " ? Long Answer UHm... Like -Uhm _ This Here .
Is someone chewing near the camera?
@timw3241 listen to what he says again..he just mentioned the song eruption, not Eddie's style in general.
Hi
@@ethanlewandowski1939 hey
That's not a song though.
@@Eddieshred If it's recorded on an album then it's a song. Even if it wasn't recorded. It's referred to as an instrumental. Every studio album had a track dedicated to just being ann instrumental.
@@jjkhawaiian Yeah that originated out of pure laziness and would be better called a track. Every other track on the album is a song though. I see people referring to classical symphonies as 'songs' all the time as well which is rediculous.
moral of the story: every instrument is drums
Everything is rhythm. Just think about a=440: it's pure rhythm, only quite fast.
Correct
All is Math
@@ThomasAtzinger lol
Rythm is "We will rock" you by Queen.
This is exactly why I like Opeth solos. They combine shreddy parts really well with rhythmic parts, and Mikael's more bluesy solos do a fantastic job of playing with the rhythm without losing it.
I came for the joke, I stayed for the advice.
I still think the best quote about music involving two categories is by Duke Ellington
"There are two kinds of music, the good kind and the other kind. I like both."
I've been playing guitar for a long time, and I found this very informative. Very good Mr. Gilbert thank you.
Interesting, well said and totally understandable.
The best solos have both aspects for sure. Great lesson from an amazing player!
groove is everything
Well, not everything but most.
I don't play music, but this makes me appreciate the many facet's of expression that can be utilized when musicians try to represent what they feel, I appreciate all of those that attempt to try their footing in the musical setting. God's speed to those of you still aspiring to express your self properly, good luck.
Why is the English plural too much for you to handle? It's not that hard.
@@RainDog222222 Why would that be your concern..?
Where's the closed captioning for the lip smacking?
😙😗😚😑🤐😏
Very well said, Mr. Gilbert. At the end, he touched on something I never thought of before, so this was definitely worth the time to listen to this mini sermon.
I like both kinds of guitarists - country and western.
Its important to understand he isn't saying one is positive or negative. It's positive to combine these ideas, where as doing only 1 of either is negative. The "nonrhythmic" is taking some heat here but that playing done at the right time resolving properly adds "intensity". I love Pauls technical difficulties solo over the "comfortably numb" chord progression the rhythmic melodies seem to soar while the nonrhythmic build anticipation for the next set of melodic notes and visa versa.
"Locking into the groove!" A shredder can play 500 notes and I would have no idea who it was. BB King could play just 1 note and almost anyone on earth would instantly know who that was. You're so right Paul. It's not the notes, it's where you put them.
Interesting ideas from Paul. Gonna try this out!
I thought he say, _"There are two types of guitarists - the ones who practise hard and can play guitar and the other ones who hang on guitars forums and talk about guitars."_ And if it was Yngwie, _"There are two types of guitarists - me and them."_ (I like YJM though.)
Great points, and very well explained and demonstrated. Cool to see PG has come a long way from just being a speed king player.
add to this melody and you've got some tasty music. so many guitarists, *i'm guilty* spend years trying to shred and don't learn how to play effectively in the box. for example, slash is a brilliant player combining melody and rhythm in his work. angus young is another.
Not only your guitar play, Paul, but also your words are always an opportunity for anyone to get plurality, ie, horizons.
Thanks for sharing the perspectives.
If you're a guitar player and you don't start grinning when Paul plays, there's something wrong with ya.
+Murray Melander I generally cringe, but that's just me.
if you have an opinion and are egotistical enough to think of it as universal, there's something wrong with you!
i was paying attention to the words, not waiting for a free concert. don't make assumptions about people without having a good reason for it besides being overly assured you're right because the people you surround yourself with will not challenge you!
i didn't smile, bring it on!
swanclipper, douche.
That Mechanic Guy you know he’s right
Part of what made Hendrix so good. He was also just either slamming the rhythm or guiding it beautifully
You know you're good when you can play Eruption just to proove a point!
but if you can play Eruption... you can play it for any reason...
What a teacher!!love his observations!!not just a shredder🤘🏽
There are two types of guitarist...
Paul Gilbert
And everyone else
Got to jam with Paul when I was 14/15. Even as a young man he was super supportive and kind to all the players. He announced that he had left Racer X and that he was going to go play with, "Billy Freakin' Sheehan!" He has always been a laid back funny guy serious about his craft. He'd be a good bandmate. Thanks for sharing the video.
It was hard to focus on what Paul wanted to deliver due to the chewing close to the cam mic... bleah...
Malmsteen.are you listening?
stfu
@@corydonahue9638 u need to stfu
Malmsteen and sheehan should be in a band together, may be billy would play a 7 string bass.
Precious advices!
Thought it was Dane cook for a second.
Dane Cook mixed with Keanu Reeves
and him being good at what he does immediately convinced you otherwise
illdeletethis I WISH A MILLION INTELLIGENT PEOPLE COULD READ THIS ...
Are there a million intelligent people ?
@sabbracadabra I can see it
Amazing player!!!
The last 3 solo-CD's are KILLER!
Two types of guitarists: Left handed and Right handed
Big bren
You probably already know this, in fact may be why you said what you said, but I'll just go ahead and mention that Paul is left handed. He just chose to play righty.
Three types actually. Those who can count and those who can’t.
@@thestagerocks Excellent!
I always love to hear this guy talk. There is no ego getting in the way of his communications with others...
Surely the number one things we love in guitar playing and music in general is feeling and soul. Not speed, but it can be good if it has the feel, interlocked with the rhythm section. My 2cents
PAUL G came up in the speed metal days ,imagine if it was during the blues hay day or even jazz ,which never had any recognition back then unless u were club rat in Chicago!
Absolutely! If you play a "wrong" note but in time/rhythm, it still sounds good and most people won't notice. This is especially true in jazz, but also Baroque/classical styles like Bach.
People who complain about music having no feeling or soul are really just complaining that they can't find an actual reason not to like something. I can play something with no feeling and still make people think it does, and I can play with all the feeling in the universe and have nobody pick up on it. Music and art in general just works that way.
If you hear a death metal song and there's something you find in there, awesome. If you hear the latest dance club hit on the radio and you find something in there, awesome. If you hear old-school gangster rap and find something in there, awesome.
If you hear something and can't find a single trace of anything in there, I don't know what to tell you. You've lost at music.
I think that the whole purpose of this video is to help people work on their speed technique and cleanliness. Emotion(soul) is more easily integrated when the player understands what they are playing. This isn't a video that is trying to teach you how to make a great song. This is a video that aims to open you up to new patterns and technique which can possibly aid you in composing a great song.
Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with your point. Speed is fine if used correctly, but if you can't be a well rounded musician it is going to be hard for people to respect you as a musician. Just saying that this video aims to help people in their technique, and not to impress style or soul on the viewer
There are many great guitar players out there that one man cant describe.
True, too many trick guitarists can't groove with a band
Been sayin that for YEARS!
Thank you Mr. Gilbert! Couldn't have said it better myself - what a simple, effective explanation of guitar playing and it's two dominant forms - rhythm and lead. "Guitar parts are either locked into a groove or are free-form" and both compliment each other well to my ears...and hands :)
Nice explanation PGM.
Ther izz nuttin Rong whitt dat Staatmunt !
poor guy, i think he was fighting a cold. Nevertheless, sharing his heart musically is like sharing treasure with us. Thank you PG!
The Jet City Woman solo is a great example of locking into the beat for a bar or two, letting loose & going free-form for a couple bars, locking back in, & floating back out. I think that's part of what makes that solo so epic, to me.
Its all rhythm essentially, if you can hear it.
This. One can say that what Paul describes as non-rhythmic is likely to have a more complex relationship to the underlying rhythm, and not betray the same degree of rhythmic intention, but to call is non-rhythmic is something of a misnomer.
Very True!... With the groove with the rythm,,,
The title is INCORRECT it should be “two types of GUITAR PLAYING” not “two types of guitarIST” that typo makes the whole point incorrect and in the video, you can even hear him say “guitar playING”.
Dave mustaine is a great example of a rhythm guitarist that can make rhythm from lead lines
Curious that he talked about EVH's Eruption as a 'free timing' example, because there is (almost) no drums backing it, and EVH is a monster rhythm guitarist as well. When I think 'free' soloists I think YJM or Satch
It's still pretty free, lots of tuplets in there, and because someone is a great rhythm player doesn't mean they can't play like this. What he means is that people favor one or the other generally
It was more a look at the piece than Eddie. I think he wanted as familiar an example as possible. Then he goes and corrects himdelf about it. Classic Gilbert. He's a quick and informative teacher, correcting himself on the fly. And you're right, Eddie is a helluva rhythm player.
Eddie almost never plays leads to the timing of the song, that was his point.
tacomadc
I'm not a big Eddie fan. But I can't deny that he added to the instrument. He definitely has his own voice and knows what he's doing. Without a doubt worth learning from.
tacomadc I can see, you're partly right, because some solos are strictly at tempo, like Runnin With The Devil
he's not talking about if you can keep in time, he's talking about playing in such a way that the listener can feel the groove of the song, emphasising the beats or off-beats of the song
One rhythmic solo that comes to mind is the guitar solo on “Comfortably Numb” by Pink Floyd.
Just saw the title, haven't watched, had to comment- Of course there are: Left-handed, and Right-handed!
Doug Martsch of Built to Spill is a spectacular rhythmic guitar player. The end of Carry the Zero is a perfect example. Simple riff, but completely locked in with the band. Check it out. Very underrated guitar player.
I wonder if he went to Ibanez and said..."Hey do you have any really ugly looking guitars around.." Iwouldn't mind endorsing one!
He did actually, and they said "yes," endorse this ugly thing and people will want anything Ibanez that looks better than his guitar.
It's an upside down Iceman basically.
I actually was just thinking that I like that guitar! lol (different strokes...)
you know, one that you can throw and it will come back to you like a boomerang.
Gwangi W F U...that means Fantastice Understanding right? Well thank you Gwangi, I appreciate that!
Paul Gilbert has knowledge in spades, and I love how eager he is to put the knowledge out there.
I like both honestly
PG really is a master guitarist and musician,hands down one of the best players around and a great guy to boot,met him after a gig once,we had a quick chat and he gave me some picks🤘
Why does Paul sound less like Paul and more like Ross from friends?
He probably had a cold.
Great lesson here! Thanks!
"If you don't play with rhythm, you might as well take up needlepoint.." - Prince
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When you, (on guitar), lock in with the bass player and drummer providing a real groove, a swinging soloist can go anywhere with a tune.
Once you see people tapping their foot or bopping their head, ya got 'em!
There are 2 types of people in this world. 1) People that think there are only 2 types of people and 2) people like me who don't think that way
What about the people who think there is only one type?
@@jamieward1871 hmmm... I think you have punched a hole in my theory... I have reevaluated my theory and adjusted my original comment due to your very astute correction.
@@rrdream2400 Ha! I was just goofing, of course.
@@jamieward1871 same here
@@rrdream2400 But now my original reply doesn't make sense! 😁
I was just a rhythm palyer for so long i never tried to do lead bits till i was well into 3 years of playing. And its something i figured out when you are locked into a rhythm in lead solos you have a much louder presence as everything carries you and you carry them. Im glad i was basically inadvertently gifted by staying rhythmic for so long but it does also help having perfect time😂
two kinds: guitarists that speak japanese, and ones that dont
Professor Gilbert. One of my best teachers.
Cameraman sounds hungry. Please be advised. Possible Snickers needed. You're not you when you're hungry.
I always love watching Gilbert when he's teaching
So he actually admits that shredding is not that great? Nice, I've seen a big change in his playing since his earlier years :)
No, he means playing in rhythm, regardless of what type of playing/soloing... shredding in rhythm is still playing in rhythm. If you're going to do it, listen to the beat and lock in with the beat. I believe that this part takes a long time to master and is more about 'feel' then anything else. Seen a lot of people play great on their own, put them in a band situation and they can't lock into a beat... believe me, I was one of them.
Oliver Cvetanovski actually he is a shredder that seems to laugh over all that guitar herói/ speed demon thing
cubixthe Not true at all, as Gilbert is a shred guitar player, what it really boils down to is that both are very important and should be used where appropriate.
The best example I can think of is listen to the solo of "Holy Thunderforce" by Rhapsody of Fire. Highly technical, shredding type of playing, completely locks with the beat.
However, there's some fantastic free form playing in the song of "Number of the Beast" by Iron Maiden, particularly the first solo of the song, where Dave Murray plays more like he's floating above the rhythm in the background.
Music isn't about strict rules, sometimes floating between the two is what makes a great solo, or just great playing in general.
TheCrimsonIdol987 Shredding doesnt need to be 'in time', like most of PG´s leads. Many adopt the free form he said, like YJM, Satch and even Rhoads sometimes.
Marcus Vinnas I agree, which is why i believe that all guitarists are a combination of rhythmic and free form. :)
Always attend any clinic he does. Very instructive and fun.
1:12 lol she got wet
because i urinated on her
TheInboil 0_0
no it was me
+ThrashingReign23 I was gonna say the same thing lol
Because a woman couldn't possibly laugh or make a noise without it somehow being sexual...
good upload. Paul made a great point that a lot of musicians tend to overlook.
He dresses really cool.....wish I dressed like that
465marko Then do it, one life to live.
What a tshirt and jacket. Yeah very crazy dress style.
I saw this a few years ago and it totally changed my playing. In my guitar solos I spend more time listening to my rhythm guitarist and bassist then I do my own licks. My goal is to lock in to them so we can product a finished product TOGETHER. I don't care too much about me playing a cool lick. Its about the unit sounding good together.
Non-rhythmic styles only sound good when played really fast. Slow them right down and you see it's actually pretty crap musically. There's a place for it, but people often don't realise how important rhythm is.
If you slow it down it will become rhythmic. Fast stuff/shred is not just hitting frets and picking as fast as you can. They are playing 8th 16th and 32nd notes. They are just not accenting the note played on the beat.
i had the opportunity to see this workshop live. Great notions.
Great, but blues players may have missed this class
why?
Naveed Ali Khan many of them play free over the tempo. Of course there are the other types as well like Robben or Clapton
Marcus Vinnas you have no idea what the fuck your talking
shut up child
''many of them play free over the tempo'' that's alright, as long as you're in the same key.
Great guitarist!
This seems like somewhat of a false dichotomy because it is possible to apply a rhythmic structure to any piece of music, even when it gets funky like 5/4, 7/8, etc. I like what he's saying I just think a better way of phrasing it would be playing in standard time vs. freeform rhythm. Basically I'm saying that rhythm is an intrinsic part of music which can not be removed, no matter how abstract or experimental the piece is.
nah.
Not really. Odd time signatures still has a groove to it. It's only a matter to locking in with it.
That's exactly what I'm saying: rhythm is inherent to music, regardless of how 'far out' the groove is.
well of course you can play 16th notes constantly and say it has rhythm when all durations and intervals are the same... just not in the way rhythm is noticed in a piece where note durations and intervals vary in a more pleasing way.
but the interesting thing about rhythm, which gilbert doesn't adress, is that rhythmic playing can become apparent on a phrase to phrase basis rather than a note to note basis...so you could play 16th notes all the time and have the more rhythmic feel come from varying the length of the phrases which are tied together. notes have rhythm, notes make phrases. phrases have rhythm, phrases make chorus or verse, chorus and verse have rhythm, chorus and verse make song.
You're just doing the same thing he is doing. He describes the playing as 'Rhythmic' you call it 'standard time' He says 'non-rhythmic' you say free form. Essentially you are tripping up over the semantics of the word 'rhythm' and not absorbing the context of what Paul is saying. What you fail to realise is that all words are just ways of describing concepts. It's like a language game that we are playing. You play different games but with the same set of cards don't you? If someone tried to claim they won a round of poker because it all added up to 21 you'd immediately think they were wrong/crazy/stupid/ etc. Why is it any different for words? We all understand the concept of rhythm throughly, you don't need to explain all the ways that everthing you play has a rhythm, that goes without saying. You purposefully ignore the context of what he is saying to make him wrong by definition. Look I can do the same thing to you.. What exactly do you mean by 'standard time?' standard to who? That's not a musical term I'm familiar with, it's not even in Italian! Etc.. Just because something is 'rhythmic' or 'in standard time'. Doesn't mean you couldn't get quite far out with it rhythmically, with bizarre staccato stabs and long rests. But we would all instinctively know if it was played with the rhythm or played across it. Oah snap I just did it myself. I prefer mine :P
My favorite non-rhythmic guitar player is Kim Thayil. His solos are all over the place. Very original sound and style. Took me a long time to get used to his style and start to appreciate him.
Much cooler than Yngwie
Don't start that shit
Some interesting points that he's making in among that lovely guitar craftsmanship.
i hate the fireman
i think the iceman looks much better
thank you Mr. Gilbert. Rock on!
...accents?
depends where you're from
not voice accent - rhythmic accents.
Sky Vins Why don't people on RUclips understand jokes
If we take what Paul is saying to heart , this Means Vito Bratta did BOTH Rhythmic and Non Rhythmic Solos together , or Sepearate on White Lion Songs .
Paul Gilbert has basically explained as to why JIMI HENDRIX will ALWAYS be KING.
And a glorious AMEN, to that FACT.l
The more I see Paul Gilbert the more I love and admire him as both a guitar player and as a human. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That Ibanez iceman is one ugly guitar
Paul's always had a hideous taste in guitars. Great player though.
InfernoMods hate to do this, but... it's actually a ibanez fireman guitar, it's the inverted version of the iceman, hence the name.
Paul was my next door neighbor on yucca st back in the 80's in l.a. very cool guy. He called me over to his car one day and let me listen to his demo's for mr big with Billy Sheehan. Also use to sit in on his classes and seminars at m.i. Awesome guy, he'll show you anything you ask. GREAT TEACHER too
Man I would NEVER buy that guitar for shit even If I had the money! It looks so unsettling and weird, in a bad way!
Kenny Ken but it sounds cool.
Kenny Ken I find it weird but not unbearable lol but red doesn't really look too great on it. I'd much rather go with a natural finish, and that's IF I even wanted that thing lol.
Yeah, it's a design catastrophe....The human eye can quickly spot a well - crafted, aesthetically pleasing guitar in just a matter of a split-second glance, guitarist or not...I dunno what those guys at IBANEZ were thinking...
I kinda like it but I don't. I get a balanced out iceman vibe I'd rather have a swore shoulder.
Ashley Johansson but it does sound cool after all! :)