The 3 unit orbi can now be found for $300 up to 7500 sq feet. I went this direction for a 3 level home of 3000 sq feet. Speed increased and I can practically get max speed and connectivity at the end of a 100 foot driveway and entire back yard and patio area. "Having too much bandwidth and range" said no one ever. Thanks for the video.
There is a misconception here, 1200Mbps and 3000Mbps are actually the sum of the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz connections. So, 1200Mbps means 400Mbps for 2.4GHz and 800Mbps for the 5GHz. So it's more of a marketing thing since you can only connect to either 2.4 of 5 GHz.
The Orbi is the best for the simple fact that it uses a wireless backhaul to maintain connectivity as well as speed. What this means is the higher band in the Tri-Band is reserved for this back haul, allowing your devices to connect on the 2.4 and 5ghz while maintaining that backhaul back to the router.
I work for an independent ISP. We deploy Zyxel and Smart RG routers that now have an extender from the manufacturer if you need one. They will mesh. Mesh is the key. You want to "extend" the range of your wifi router since most won't cover multiple floors in a house or have trouble penetrating walls of older homes. There was a time when I ran two separate routers in my home but I always had to manually disconnect from one and connect to another. With a true mesh there is one SSID but multiple access points. I don't know anything about any other manufacturers mentioned here. I do have some Air Ties units in my home from Air Sonics. We tested several of them and they do mesh but you had to have a router of some sort since they don't have a router, or they didn't at the time. The reason we didn't go with them was you had to buy a router, disable the internal wifi and then program the Air Ties with one unit being the primary then the other units being the secondary. Mine are not hard wired together for back haul and you can do that. They do have two built in ethernet interfaces which is nice if you want to hard wire a TV or Ethernet device to the Air Ties unit. We just thought that it was dumb to get a router, disable the internal wifi and then install the Air Ties. Now their management system was nice but the units were pretty pricey. They were around $80 per unit but you could get them in multiple packs. At that time they didn't sell to the public so you had to find a dealer to get them. So far the Zyxel and Smart RG routers with the extender from the manufacturer are very nice. These mesh systems are the way to go. Everyone just needs to find the price point they like and be able to manage them and upgrade them or hire someone to do it for you. The Zyxel and Smart RG units have one SSID for 2.4 and 5Mhz. Everyone just needs to keep in mind that wifi changes by the month and systems are constantly changing and evolving. I see that there is something called Wifi 6 now and I don't know anything about that.
Gohoom linksys velop ac2200. It was around $350 in Canada. I got the 3 pack because I had some dead spots in my house with my non mesh system so I didn’t want to take a chance. I likely could have made do with the 2 pack. Works great. Simple setup. No issues in 8 months. I have a lot of devices on the network. Speed is really good.
Hmm after your comments and reviews, think I will look into the TP Link it does its purpose dont need other extras. Thank you for your reviews too! Made it simple to understand...
I have the netgear orbi since its release and i loved it. Key word is "Loved". I was going to put this in your letest wifi 6 mesh router but (and maybe i will), this wasnt a wifi 6 router. The reason why i said Loved is because it worked perfect for the first three years, but our phones started getting random disconnects from the network within the second or third year (2018). My career is IT/Supprot so i am pretty proficient in this. Since i couldnt figure out why our phones kept being disconnected, and i kept the firmware updated, did a total reset once, we just dealt with it. Thought it was a samsung thing. This year, all wireless devices started getting "authentication error" and no internet available. Long story short, it was the satellite that was faulty. I just happened to unplug the satellite from my sons room to move it to see if that remedied the situation, and everything suddenly popped back online. All this time it was the satellite, and my biggest gripe is there was no way in the log or anything in the management console to tell me that the satellite was malfunctioning. I pointed the finger at the phones, comcast cable modem, and it was the mesh router. Two weeks going now, and just going off the main router and no issues, i dont have to reboot my phones anymore, it just works now. The problem is now i made provisions and am moving on to ubiquiti unifi system, because i wanted something where i can manage everything under one ecosystem. Not here to promote any product, but if i would have been able to pinpoint this issue years ago, i wouldnt have moved on to another produce that is easier to manage. Right now, i love the wifi of the orbi main router right now, but the ubiquiti ball has already been rolled.
I had the M4 but returned it because of you connect it wired to your modem, it only allows up to 100mb. I like to hook up my Xbox one X through Ethernet but was only allowed 100. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that in this video. I switched it for the Netgear Orbi and it works great and allows my speeds that I pay for.
We are struggling with consistent WIFI. We have three floors (basement, main floor, and 2nd floor] and about 2800 sqft including the garage. The internet comes in on the south side of the basement and we are using Comcast. The problem is depending on where you are in the home, your signal will most likely suck. For example, the living room located on the main floor on the "north" side of the house could barely stream anything. I brought our router to the living room and connected it to the modem located in the basement and turned it into an access point. Finally, our signal on the main floor was much better but still had issues depending on which side or level you were on. With no access point above, the 2nd floor still sucks. I usually just use our data plan upstairs; not only is it faster than the wifi, but because the wifi drops off so much that you spend most of your time buffering. Unfortunately, we have a new issue. Our service has never worked outside. We have a garage door opener that uses an app but the second I drive out of the garage I can't stay connected to the wifi and have to switch to the data plan to shut the garage door. And, now we've, bought a Ring Doorbell Pro to help with my hearing loss. I was worried it would have connection issues and it is. Ring suggested we buy the Chime Pro to help with the signal and even though our Chime Pro has an RSSI of -25, our doorbell hovers around -68 to -75. Ring says it works better the closer we get to 0 with the -40s being our sweet spot. Unfortunately, it never stays connect and I cant get the RSSI even close to the recommended levels. This is causing us to miss things. Plus, my audio over the device is so bad my hubby says you cant understand what I'm saying. I've often thought a mesh system would work well for us, but these units you are suggesting don't even have antennas. How well are they when sending a signal through floors and walls? And, what about bricks, windows, or a metal door? Our doorbell sits right next to the bricks and is just on the other side of a big metal door. And although those things are difficult to send a signal through, I can't believe we are the only doorbell user with these issues. So, have you tested any of these scenarios?
Well even when the prettiest is the Google and if the Netgear is the one which can work only with two units... Well I will stay with the TP-LINK because I'm broke 😋
Would you recommend Luxul?... its suppose to be high end, but its the highest price in the market That I know. But that doesn’t mean anything to me. Its the first time ive seen this company and cant get any real review on the product.
@@rileybecerril7554 hes an idiot. Every newer mesh systems will work. I'm suggesting tp link mesh deco x6 wifi 6 system. Expensive but worth every penny. For Hardcore gaming i suggest a good powerline adapter if you can't run cables through your walls
I was hoping for more detail about performance over the network as it relates to local devices. My home isn't wired for ethernet so I have to rely on wifi to stream from a NAS. True 4K over wifi can very demanding. The speeds and coverage can be misleading for these types of products. Any plans to do a performance review?
Having AC1200 system does not mean it is capable to transmit data with 1 GB speeds. For example, Google WiFi features a maximum theoretical speed rate of 867 Mbps on the 5 GHz frequency, and 300 Mbps on the 2.4 GHz radio (1200 is an approximate combined value from 2 separate networks which cannot be used simultaneously, 867 + 300 = 1167). The best it can do over 5 GHz WiFi is about 867 Mbps raw (in close proximity), but there is overhead there as well, which may reduce the throughput to somewhere around 50% to 75% of that. So, with your 1 GB plan, in close proximity to the main router you will be getting 500-600 Mbps max, 225-275 Mbps near the secondary point if its connection with the main one is great, and 100-150 Mbps close to the third point in the daisy chain configuration. If there are any obstacles in between the mesh points and / or you live in the populated area where there are dozens of other routers, the speeds will definitely be much lower. Anyway, in ideal situation 1200 does not mean you would get 1 GB wifi speeds even close. Netgear Orbi has the second 5 GHz radio band dedicated entirely to backhaul traffic. Nevertheless, even with a AC3000 system you will not be getting 1 GB speeds. The dedicated band makes the connection between the router and mesh points faster, but the client speed rate is still up to 867 Mbps in the ideal world.
@@MIAMIDJ555 depends on your budget, connection speed, home size, obstacles between the points, how many ethernet ports you need, how sophisticated the configuration should be. If your plan connection speed is under 100 Mbps or you can hardwire the mesh points, the least expensive option would work perfectly well. If you have a lot of money and need the fastest connection, buy Orbi.
@@MIAMIDJ555 however Orbi has a 3-satellite limit connected to a single main point which prohibits you from having a reliable network in a house bigger than 8,000 sq feet))
Alex Pantel do you think a mesh network is worth it in an apartment complex? I don’t want other people in my unit to bog down my internet and I know with higher end routers, mimo is worth it
Thank you for explaining, I feel like I need to be an engineer or electronic tech in order to know what I need to get rid of the dead spots in my home...
I just setup my new Orbi with the Orbi Voice from Coscto for $200, and it's definitely a tremendous signal and speed boost from my Apple TimeCapsule, especially on the third floor. The Orbi router sits on the second floor. I know it's not ax (WiFi 6), but my Zoom connections no longer drop out! Even my roommate says RUclips streaming starts instantly on his iPhone.
Triband is the next wave but the price they bundle is so high in price. It's like I only need 2 but they have only 3 mesh. There's even quad band which we know we do not even need.
I’m not sure if every “scenario” was covered or discussed; no performance testing at all? My experience: I purchase Eero home (similar to Samsung in price and specs) for my row house (apartment) which is a two story brick structure replacing Fios which worked well only for about 65% of the space. Erro has a slick setup with very smart app. However after testing modem speeds with provider 2x, erro 3x and several other chat sessions I determined that Eero mesh was not working, dropped constantly and the satellites went red periodically. I returned it and purchase a “better” Netgear standalone unit that looks like something outta Star Wars and that has solved the issue. Be careful with mesh!!! It might only be an option for standalone housing
I spent a day and a half with Samsung SmartThings tech support trying to make WiFi work in rural/suburban environment where Internet came over a terrestrial microwave link. No Go. Plume, unlike their claim, did not let me control the frequencies used. Tech support sounded U.S. but they were no good.
I'm using the Netgear Orbi (RBK50 model) in a large home with concrete walls. The modem, router and main Orbi unit are in the living the room while the Orbi satellite unit is in my bedroom at the opposite end of the house. With my laptop connected to the satellite unit via Ethernet I get almost the same speeds as I would directly connected to the router. Hope this helps.
Check out the TP-Link Deco P7. It has powerline technology built in for just that type of need. It uses existing electrical lines in your home for stable data transfer.
@@VSKIDD921 what if your home was built in the 1930s and the electrical wiring can make no sense at times. For example a 2 plug electrical outlet can be on 2 different lines.
@@Jenn_80 It's often even moreso in modern construction, such as a separate line for an air conditioner because of power draw. Different rooms also on their own line. I have four "powerline adaptors (actually five, but don't recall how that happened), and they work together, even tough in rooms on different lines.
I guess you forgot to mention that the Netgear model is Triband, meaning dedicated 5Ghz wireless backhaul connectivity between the router and satellite.
With Orbi, the max speeds are a little misleading, max speed is the 3 bands combined, but no users would ever get that because your connected to either the 2.4 or the 5ghz at any given time. Max fronthaul speeds on the 5g is 866 mbps and 400mbps on the 2.4. The 3rd band can't even be used by the user and is used for backhaul only with a max transfer of 1.7 gbps. I don't know how the other mesh systems calculate their speeds, I imagine it's somewhat similar.
@@oneasterisk4703 because velop is why I'm looking for another system. I'm having nothing but problems with velop. I'm resetting these thing everyday because they keep losing connection.
Set my parents up with Orbi RBK50s a few years ago. I had planned to add another satellite later but they nearly doubled the price in Australia before I got to do so. They also pushed an update that forces existing users to create an online account before they can administer their home network. Not cool.
i was hoping you could have tested real-world ranges, susceptibility to interference, etc... I have an Orbi with 2 satellites, and it seems to have many issues connecting. sometimes it works, then suddenly it doesn't. can you do another video on this type of information?
wow ok so I just picked up the Orbi system with a base and satellite unit, for just US$129 at Costco. There is another version that was US$299 but I failed to pay attention to what the difference was. The 2 could cover 4000 sq ft. At the same store on the Same aisle, Google WiFi with 4 units including the base, was priced at US$399.
Thank you for all that you do... I know it takes time and effort to put these videos together. My concern... and it's not just you but all the reviews I have been looking up. The tests are not apples to apples. The Deco M4 is new but under the hood it's on par with the Deco M5 and well behind the 2 year old Deco M9. The Samsung, google, and Deco are all in the same class, comparing them to the Orbi RBK50 is not a fair comparison. But I do agree the Orbi is way over priced.
I just put the orbi in and its OK. Wasn't all that easy to install really but that the way most things are. I get about 700 Mb down on my phone with 1 gig from my isp. Sometimes devices want to select the wrong satellite but got it working some better for that now. Overall it works good and I mostly like it for the fast speed on wifi.
in your opinion what mesh system would you recommend more for 1 gig internet at home (4-5k sq feet). 1.) Linksys - Velop AC2200 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 5 System 2.) NETGEAR - Nighthawk AX1800 Dual-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 6 Would either of these be capable of delivering 600-700 download speeds on newer devices, like iPhone 11, etc? As that's the speed I currently get with my spectrum ISP router. Please let me know. Thanks.
I have a basement, main living floor and bedroom floor. I already have a hardwire line between the basement where my Comcast wifi cablemodem lives (in my office), and the living room. Hence, I imagine I would use the hardwire line to connect the TP Link's main router to the Comcast wifi modem. Question: Should I disable the Comcast wifi when I do this, or can I keep that wifi enabled with the same SSIDs as the TPM Link? Great Vid. Thanks!
Hey great video, I’m in NY as well and as you know work from home and kids with online classes my internet gets pretty slow. With the kids gaming and school as well as working which mesh network would you recommend
I have a detached metal outbuilding less than 30 yards from the house. What mesh components would I need to get internet (WiFi) to that outbuilding for my TV streaming. . I can get wiki when I am outside the building by the window, but not when I am inside the building by the same window. Running any type of Ethernet or fiber cable underground is not a viable option so WiFi is what I am hoping to run. I'm running Fiber in the house at 100mbps. Any help would be appreciated.
Modem/wireless router is in bedroom 1. Family room and kitchen are on far side of house. I have a hard wire out to the family room Period can I hardwire into of the Google units, leave the third loose and still have them all want mesh network?
I need help and I may be the least tech savvy person on the planet. We have a 3 story home that is comprised of 3 separate apartments with 3 independent electrical systems. Have always had one modem in the middle apartment and until recently has worked well for supplying internet to all 3 levels. We recently increased our speed (Century Link) to the fastest available in our area 940 Mbps. With everyone working from home we are experiencing connectivity issues, slow speeds, especially in the upper apartment. Purchased extenders but they have been a whole separate headache and apparently are not really meant to work across independent systems. Should the mesh wifi be a good option for us? Thank you
Thanks for this, it would have been great to see speed tests for each one, for those of us with GB fiber networks. I still have a little confusion- from my understanding, most of these mesh systems max out at 400mbps when it comes to wifi, is that accurate? Also I've read that the Orbi beams out a 5ghz network only? If so then what about devices that only connect to 2.4? Thanks again!
Which one is better for very large house ? I am afraid of keep loosing connection over two different wifi points during switching from router to wifi point.
There are other mesh WiFi systems out there. It looks like this review was just for the top name brands. Meshforce, eero, and others should be reviewed along side these.
I have been looking into purchasing the TP Link Deco but I have one concern I am not sure about. I use a VPN to stream my tv using IPTV services and APK's. I don't use the VPN on my computers but I should. Will the TP LINK Deco work with a VPN? I currently use spectrum modem and their router as well with 400 Mbps internet speed. With the spectrum router it does carry the wifi to my second story of my home but can weaken at the far corners, especially when my kids are on Zoom upstairs, and even worse when using their Chromebooks. Have switched them to pc laptops and working much better.
@@razwerks9951 Downsides (for some): * Expensive * Kinda big than other MESH router The disconnects that happened to others before, are mostly fixed in the latest firmware update. Get the new stocks from Costco, and y'all will love it. Have a great weekend
You said scenarios - trying to decide which is best for my situation - 1100sq Ft apartment condo ( with metal in the walls - basically 2 bedrooms & a living room. Can anyone help me
can I connect this TP LINK MESH S4 to an existing ASUS RT-AC68U? I need those ethernet ports . I was hoping to put my new TPLINK S4 on my existing system. I'm guessing no go
you have gigabit internet but only get 300 mbps? whats the point of gig internet then? I have seen other reviewers max out at 500 on some of these routers.
Nathan B you might want to go in and check your upload speed settings. I had this same issues using my nighthawk. Using your cellphone turnoff the cellular antenna and turn on Wifi Only. Run your speed test at the ring doorbell with the door closed. If your upload speed is less than 1mb/ sec then you know your router settings need to be reconfigured. Once I did that on my Netgear Nighthawk, I had no more issues
What’s your insight on Luxul AC3100?... my home theater expert recommend it but I cant find any review with substantial facts. Just it $800.?!... yikes My home its 3K feet compact size 5 bedrooms and an office downstairs.
I need a guest network that covers a 6000 ft2 bar. It needs to stay connected as customers move around, so I like the mesh features. I set up 3 ASUS routers in their AIMESH mode. They DO NOT extend the guest network, and ASUS tech support Says that it does not support extending the guest network. Do any of these routers extend the guest network to all the interconnected routers? What I need is a strong signal where customers can connect to the internet, but cannot get to the internal network, or to the router setup web page. Do any of these do this?
I have a modem router that has a sim card installed to receive mobile internet. Is there a mesh system that can take a sim card rather than be plugged into an Ethernet port?
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The 3 unit orbi can now be found for $300 up to 7500 sq feet. I went this direction for a 3 level home of 3000 sq feet. Speed increased and I can practically get max speed and connectivity at the end of a 100 foot driveway and entire back yard and patio area. "Having too much bandwidth and range" said no one ever. Thanks for the video.
There is a misconception here, 1200Mbps and 3000Mbps are actually the sum of the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz connections. So, 1200Mbps means 400Mbps for 2.4GHz and 800Mbps for the 5GHz. So it's more of a marketing thing since you can only connect to either 2.4 of 5 GHz.
The Orbi is the best for the simple fact that it uses a wireless backhaul to maintain connectivity as well as speed. What this means is the higher band in the Tri-Band is reserved for this back haul, allowing your devices to connect on the 2.4 and 5ghz while maintaining that backhaul back to the router.
I work for an independent ISP. We deploy Zyxel and Smart RG routers that now have an extender from the manufacturer if you need one. They will mesh. Mesh is the key. You want to "extend" the range of your wifi router since most won't cover multiple floors in a house or have trouble penetrating walls of older homes. There was a time when I ran two separate routers in my home but I always had to manually disconnect from one and connect to another. With a true mesh there is one SSID but multiple access points. I don't know anything about any other manufacturers mentioned here. I do have some Air Ties units in my home from Air Sonics. We tested several of them and they do mesh but you had to have a router of some sort since they don't have a router, or they didn't at the time. The reason we didn't go with them was you had to buy a router, disable the internal wifi and then program the Air Ties with one unit being the primary then the other units being the secondary. Mine are not hard wired together for back haul and you can do that. They do have two built in ethernet interfaces which is nice if you want to hard wire a TV or Ethernet device to the Air Ties unit. We just thought that it was dumb to get a router, disable the internal wifi and then install the Air Ties. Now their management system was nice but the units were pretty pricey. They were around $80 per unit but you could get them in multiple packs. At that time they didn't sell to the public so you had to find a dealer to get them. So far the Zyxel and Smart RG routers with the extender from the manufacturer are very nice. These mesh systems are the way to go. Everyone just needs to find the price point they like and be able to manage them and upgrade them or hire someone to do it for you. The Zyxel and Smart RG units have one SSID for 2.4 and 5Mhz. Everyone just needs to keep in mind that wifi changes by the month and systems are constantly changing and evolving. I see that there is something called Wifi 6 now and I don't know anything about that.
The reason he was getting slow speeds during the orbi speed test is because his phone would've only had a 2x2 ac chip in it causing the bottleneck.
I have Linksys. Expensive but works seamlessly and flawlessly. At the end of the day that’s what’s most important.
AlergicToSnow how long have you had it? Is it the expensive one? Have you had any problem with it? Sorry too many questions
Thank you very much
Gohoom linksys velop ac2200. It was around $350 in Canada. I got the 3 pack because I had some dead spots in my house with my non mesh system so I didn’t want to take a chance. I likely could have made do with the 2 pack. Works great. Simple setup. No issues in 8 months. I have a lot of devices on the network. Speed is really good.
Hmm after your comments and reviews, think I will look into the TP Link it does its purpose dont need other extras. Thank you for your reviews too! Made it simple to understand...
Welcome! Glad I could help!
I have the netgear orbi since its release and i loved it. Key word is "Loved". I was going to put this in your letest wifi 6 mesh router but (and maybe i will), this wasnt a wifi 6 router. The reason why i said Loved is because it worked perfect for the first three years, but our phones started getting random disconnects from the network within the second or third year (2018). My career is IT/Supprot so i am pretty proficient in this. Since i couldnt figure out why our phones kept being disconnected, and i kept the firmware updated, did a total reset once, we just dealt with it. Thought it was a samsung thing. This year, all wireless devices started getting "authentication error" and no internet available.
Long story short, it was the satellite that was faulty. I just happened to unplug the satellite from my sons room to move it to see if that remedied the situation, and everything suddenly popped back online. All this time it was the satellite, and my biggest gripe is there was no way in the log or anything in the management console to tell me that the satellite was malfunctioning. I pointed the finger at the phones, comcast cable modem, and it was the mesh router.
Two weeks going now, and just going off the main router and no issues, i dont have to reboot my phones anymore, it just works now. The problem is now i made provisions and am moving on to ubiquiti unifi system, because i wanted something where i can manage everything under one ecosystem. Not here to promote any product, but if i would have been able to pinpoint this issue years ago, i wouldnt have moved on to another produce that is easier to manage. Right now, i love the wifi of the orbi main router right now, but the ubiquiti ball has already been rolled.
Dude finally thank you!!! Took me days to just find a video where everyone wasn’t obsessed over price and just was comparing best mesh networks!
Just bought the Orbi today. Amazing. Average 340Mbs through out my 2,800sf house. Wish I would have known about this a year ago. Highly recommend it.
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Which or I did you get? Just saw a review for the orbi 6.
Awsome way to explain... I was so confused.... Im going for the tplink mes... I realised im poor... And my Internet is slow
Same here. late to the party, but it seems like a good deal for the price. Especially if you only need 2 which walmart sells for $90.
I had the M4 but returned it because of you connect it wired to your modem, it only allows up to 100mb. I like to hook up my Xbox one X through Ethernet but was only allowed 100. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that in this video.
I switched it for the Netgear Orbi and it works great and allows my speeds that I pay for.
We are struggling with consistent WIFI. We have three floors (basement, main floor, and 2nd floor] and about 2800 sqft including the garage. The internet comes in on the south side of the basement and we are using Comcast. The problem is depending on where you are in the home, your signal will most likely suck. For example, the living room located on the main floor on the "north" side of the house could barely stream anything. I brought our router to the living room and connected it to the modem located in the basement and turned it into an access point. Finally, our signal on the main floor was much better but still had issues depending on which side or level you were on. With no access point above, the 2nd floor still sucks. I usually just use our data plan upstairs; not only is it faster than the wifi, but because the wifi drops off so much that you spend most of your time buffering.
Unfortunately, we have a new issue. Our service has never worked outside. We have a garage door opener that uses an app but the second I drive out of the garage I can't stay connected to the wifi and have to switch to the data plan to shut the garage door. And, now we've, bought a Ring Doorbell Pro to help with my hearing loss. I was worried it would have connection issues and it is. Ring suggested we buy the Chime Pro to help with the signal and even though our Chime Pro has an RSSI of -25, our doorbell hovers around -68 to -75. Ring says it works better the closer we get to 0 with the -40s being our sweet spot. Unfortunately, it never stays connect and I cant get the RSSI even close to the recommended levels. This is causing us to miss things. Plus, my audio over the device is so bad my hubby says you cant understand what I'm saying.
I've often thought a mesh system would work well for us, but these units you are suggesting don't even have antennas. How well are they when sending a signal through floors and walls? And, what about bricks, windows, or a metal door? Our doorbell sits right next to the bricks and is just on the other side of a big metal door. And although those things are difficult to send a signal through, I can't believe we are the only doorbell user with these issues.
So, have you tested any of these scenarios?
Distance from hub in ft. = sq rt(sq ft./pi) so, sq rt(5500sq ft/3.14) = 41.8ft and sq rt(3500sq ft./3.14) = 33.4ft
Great video. Answered a lot of my questions. Well done. Subscribed
Thank you!
Well even when the prettiest is the Google and if the Netgear is the one which can work only with two units... Well I will stay with the TP-LINK because I'm broke 😋
Great video dude! Very intuitive.
When the discussion is about range (4,000 sq. ft.), I assume on a single level home. How well do these work in a 3 story home?
NO to mesh for 4000 sq foot home. I am a professional integrator.
Kaylie Provenzano can you explain that? I live on a 3 story home too and I would like to know which one for the top floor
Kaylie Provenzano Dumbass ROFL
Would you recommend Luxul?... its suppose to be high end, but its the highest price in the market That I know. But that doesn’t mean anything to me. Its the first time ive seen this company and cant get any real review on the product.
@@rileybecerril7554 hes an idiot. Every newer mesh systems will work. I'm suggesting tp link mesh deco x6 wifi 6 system. Expensive but worth every penny. For Hardcore gaming i suggest a good powerline adapter if you can't run cables through your walls
I think the Orbi might be great for doing wireless video editing. What router would you suggest for doing such a task?
I was hoping for more detail about performance over the network as it relates to local devices. My home isn't wired for ethernet so I have to rely on wifi to stream from a NAS. True 4K over wifi can very demanding. The speeds and coverage can be misleading for these types of products. Any plans to do a performance review?
Having AC1200 system does not mean it is capable to transmit data with 1 GB speeds. For example, Google WiFi features a maximum theoretical speed rate of 867 Mbps on the 5 GHz frequency, and 300 Mbps on the 2.4 GHz radio (1200 is an approximate combined value from 2 separate networks which cannot be used simultaneously, 867 + 300 = 1167). The best it can do over 5 GHz WiFi is about 867 Mbps raw (in close proximity), but there is overhead there as well, which may reduce the throughput to somewhere around 50% to 75% of that. So, with your 1 GB plan, in close proximity to the main router you will be getting 500-600 Mbps max, 225-275 Mbps near the secondary point if its connection with the main one is great, and 100-150 Mbps close to the third point in the daisy chain configuration. If there are any obstacles in between the mesh points and / or you live in the populated area where there are dozens of other routers, the speeds will definitely be much lower. Anyway, in ideal situation 1200 does not mean you would get 1 GB wifi speeds even close. Netgear Orbi has the second 5 GHz radio band dedicated entirely to backhaul traffic. Nevertheless, even with a AC3000 system you will not be getting 1 GB speeds. The dedicated band makes the connection between the router and mesh points faster, but the client speed rate is still up to 867 Mbps in the ideal world.
witch mesh wifi you recommend?
@@MIAMIDJ555 depends on your budget, connection speed, home size, obstacles between the points, how many ethernet ports you need, how sophisticated the configuration should be. If your plan connection speed is under 100 Mbps or you can hardwire the mesh points, the least expensive option would work perfectly well. If you have a lot of money and need the fastest connection, buy Orbi.
@@MIAMIDJ555 however Orbi has a 3-satellite limit connected to a single main point which prohibits you from having a reliable network in a house bigger than 8,000 sq feet))
Alex Pantel do you think a mesh network is worth it in an apartment complex? I don’t want other people in my unit to bog down my internet and I know with higher end routers, mimo is worth it
@@MIAMIDJ555 UNIFI, [AP AC] Lite, Long Range, Pro ... without any hesitation !
Thank you for explaining, I feel like I need to be an engineer or electronic tech in order to know what I need to get rid of the dead spots in my home...
Orbi is the best. Look at the reviews and most popular sales. It’s completely different levels compared with other.
Orbi is the best. You should mention about backhaul performance.
I just setup my new Orbi with the Orbi Voice from Coscto for $200, and it's definitely a tremendous signal and speed boost from my Apple TimeCapsule, especially on the third floor. The Orbi router sits on the second floor. I know it's not ax (WiFi 6), but my Zoom connections no longer drop out! Even my roommate says RUclips streaming starts instantly on his iPhone.
Triband is the next wave but the price they bundle is so high in price. It's like I only need 2 but they have only 3 mesh. There's even quad band which we know we do not even need.
I’m not sure if every “scenario” was covered or discussed; no performance testing at all? My experience: I purchase Eero home (similar to Samsung in price and specs) for my row house (apartment) which is a two story brick structure replacing Fios which worked well only for about 65% of the space. Erro has a slick setup with very smart app. However after testing modem speeds with provider 2x, erro 3x and several other chat sessions I determined that Eero mesh was not working, dropped constantly and the satellites went red periodically. I returned it and purchase a “better” Netgear standalone unit that looks like something outta Star Wars and that has solved the issue. Be careful with mesh!!! It might only be an option for standalone housing
I spent a day and a half with Samsung SmartThings tech support trying to make WiFi work in rural/suburban environment where Internet came over a terrestrial microwave link. No Go. Plume, unlike their claim, did not let me control the frequencies used. Tech support sounded U.S. but they were no good.
The only issue I have is that I can only get Deco M4 at a descent price and other "Good" ones are way to expensive for me
You missed Synology. Probably one of the best IMO.
Thanks man totally nailed it thanks for the info
It would be awesome if someone did a review of these units working in homes with concrete walls.>.
I was thinking the same thing.
I'm using the Netgear Orbi (RBK50 model) in a large home with concrete walls. The modem, router and main Orbi unit are in the living the room while the Orbi satellite unit is in my bedroom at the opposite end of the house. With my laptop connected to the satellite unit via Ethernet I get almost the same speeds as I would directly connected to the router. Hope this helps.
Check out the TP-Link Deco P7. It has powerline technology built in for just that type of need. It uses existing electrical lines in your home for stable data transfer.
@@VSKIDD921 what if your home was built in the 1930s and the electrical wiring can make no sense at times. For example a 2 plug electrical outlet can be on 2 different lines.
@@Jenn_80 It's often even moreso in modern construction, such as a separate line for an air conditioner because of power draw. Different rooms also on their own line. I have four "powerline adaptors (actually five, but don't recall how that happened), and they work together, even tough in rooms on different lines.
Useful info thank you Sir! :)
I guess you forgot to mention that the Netgear model is Triband, meaning dedicated 5Ghz wireless backhaul connectivity between the router and satellite.
With Orbi, the max speeds are a little misleading, max speed is the 3 bands combined, but no users would ever get that because your connected to either the 2.4 or the 5ghz at any given time. Max fronthaul speeds on the 5g is 866 mbps and 400mbps on the 2.4. The 3rd band can't even be used by the user and is used for backhaul only with a max transfer of 1.7 gbps. I don't know how the other mesh systems calculate their speeds, I imagine it's somewhat similar.
you forgot to introduce Linksys velop. Very nice video!
Nicolas Moretti I didn’t like the velop personally because the whole system died at my house.
@@oneasterisk4703 because velop is why I'm looking for another system. I'm having nothing but problems with velop. I'm resetting these thing everyday because they keep losing connection.
Set my parents up with Orbi RBK50s a few years ago. I had planned to add another satellite later but they nearly doubled the price in Australia before I got to do so. They also pushed an update that forces existing users to create an online account before they can administer their home network. Not cool.
i was hoping you could have tested real-world ranges, susceptibility to interference, etc... I have an Orbi with 2 satellites, and it seems to have many issues connecting. sometimes it works, then suddenly it doesn't. can you do another video on this type of information?
xiaowei1 had the same problem with my Orbi as well.
As did I, the satellite was there sometimes then gone the next, I just returned it today (RBK50).
Just FYI, the TP Link basically blocks a FireStick 4K, not the non FireStick not 4K, just the 4K.
You missed Ubiquiti's Amplifi bro.
wow ok so I just picked up the Orbi system with a base and satellite unit, for just US$129 at Costco. There is another version that was US$299 but I failed to pay attention to what the difference was. The 2 could cover 4000 sq ft. At the same store on the Same aisle, Google WiFi with 4 units including the base, was priced at US$399.
Super Helpful!!!!!!! Thanks, Man!!
Thank you, very helpful.
The orbi isn;t ac3000. It;s adding the dedicated backgaul channel to the total which is deceptive.
this is the best of the best
ASUS RT-AX92U AiMesh System
Thank you for all that you do... I know it takes time and effort to put these videos together. My concern... and it's not just you but all the reviews I have been looking up. The tests are not apples to apples. The Deco M4 is new but under the hood it's on par with the Deco M5 and well behind the 2 year old Deco M9. The Samsung, google, and Deco are all in the same class, comparing them to the Orbi RBK50 is not a fair comparison. But I do agree the Orbi is way over priced.
I just put the orbi in and its OK. Wasn't all that easy to install really but that the way most things are. I get about 700 Mb down on my phone with 1 gig from my isp. Sometimes devices want to select the wrong satellite but got it working some better for that now. Overall it works good and I mostly like it for the fast speed on wifi.
Thinking about buying Linksys Velop. Any feedback ?
through put and bandwidth arent the same. also the higher speeds are for local transfers like if you have a media server.
in your opinion what mesh system would you recommend more for 1 gig internet at home (4-5k sq feet).
1.) Linksys - Velop AC2200 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 5 System
2.) NETGEAR - Nighthawk AX1800 Dual-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 6
Would either of these be capable of delivering 600-700 download speeds on newer devices, like iPhone 11, etc? As that's the speed I currently get with my spectrum ISP router.
Please let me know.
Thanks.
You did not cover linksys velop?
Sooooo, what about the Eero system?
I have a basement, main living floor and bedroom floor. I already have a hardwire line between the basement where my Comcast wifi cablemodem lives (in my office), and the living room. Hence, I imagine I would use the hardwire line to connect the TP Link's main router to the Comcast wifi modem. Question: Should I disable the Comcast wifi when I do this, or can I keep that wifi enabled with the same SSIDs as the TPM Link? Great Vid. Thanks!
I had to slow down the video to understand you hahaha well, thanks for the information
Hey great video, I’m in NY as well and as you know work from home and kids with online classes my internet gets pretty slow. With the kids gaming and school as well as working which mesh network would you recommend
Eeero? Not in the conversation?
jimmy oung plume should also be mentioned
Yeah, Eero, Eero Pro, AmplifiHD, etc. But I also understand that $$$ can be limited to do some of these vids.
Have you reviewed the Gryphon Mesh WiFi Router?
Looking forward to receiving Starlink satellite internet and I'm looking for suggestions for mesh systems that would integrate.
The Orabi has parental control through Disney’s Circle which works really well.
As a parent, I laughed when you named it hateful child 1😂
as a child i dislike
I have a detached metal outbuilding less than 30 yards from the house. What mesh components would I need to get internet (WiFi) to that outbuilding for my TV streaming. . I can get wiki when I am outside the building by the window, but not when I am inside the building by the same window. Running any type of Ethernet or fiber cable underground is not a viable option so WiFi is what I am hoping to run. I'm running Fiber in the house at 100mbps. Any help would be appreciated.
Modem/wireless router is in bedroom 1. Family room and kitchen are on far side of house. I have a hard wire out to the family room Period can I hardwire into of the Google units, leave the third loose and still have them all want mesh network?
Great video - is that coupon code for tp- link still valid?
If you have problems with repeaters and extenders in the past what makes a mesh system any better?
MikroTik or Rukus - nice choice
Mesh networks blow in comparison to robust WiFi system utilizing a controller and access points, especially in larger homes.
I need help and I may be the least tech savvy person on the planet. We have a 3 story home that is comprised of 3 separate apartments with 3 independent electrical systems. Have always had one modem in the middle apartment and until recently has worked well for supplying internet to all 3 levels. We recently increased our speed (Century Link) to the fastest available in our area 940 Mbps. With everyone working from home we are experiencing connectivity issues, slow speeds, especially in the upper apartment. Purchased extenders but they have been a whole separate headache and apparently are not really meant to work across independent systems. Should the mesh wifi be a good option for us? Thank you
Does it make its own WiFi network or can I just use it to extend WiFi from the router’s network
i have a 5100 square feet 3 storey 6 bedrooms home , and I do play game in my media room basement , which one should pick ? Please advise , thank you
Where does the eeros line up in here. I was going to pull the trigger on the Samsung but was told eeros is further along
Thanks!
what about the meshforce m3 and m3 dot? have you checked those out? what do you think about that product?
What do you think about the newest Google Nest WiFi?
Thanks for this, it would have been great to see speed tests for each one, for those of us with GB fiber networks. I still have a little confusion- from my understanding, most of these mesh systems max out at 400mbps when it comes to wifi, is that accurate? Also I've read that the Orbi beams out a 5ghz network only? If so then what about devices that only connect to 2.4? Thanks again!
Are you sure about that 5? That wouldn't make too much sense since like you said, a lot of things are only 2.4
Which one is better for very large house ? I am afraid of keep loosing connection over two different wifi points during switching from router to wifi point.
There are other mesh WiFi systems out there. It looks like this review was just for the top name brands. Meshforce, eero, and others should be reviewed along side these.
Cool, let us know when you have the video ready :)
What do you think about the Arris mesh system?
I have been looking into purchasing the TP Link Deco but I have one concern I am not sure about. I use a VPN to stream my tv using IPTV services and APK's. I don't use the VPN on my computers but I should. Will the TP LINK Deco work with a VPN? I currently use spectrum modem and their router as well with 400 Mbps internet speed. With the spectrum router it does carry the wifi to my second story of my home but can weaken at the far corners, especially when my kids are on Zoom upstairs, and even worse when using their Chromebooks. Have switched them to pc laptops and working much better.
Google support stated 36 maximum Mesh Devices supported.
Fact:
“The FASTEST MESH ROUTER is the NETGEAR ORBI RBK53”
That’s after I tested more than 50 routers since 2015.
Have a great day to y’all
@Dominic M
Why NO ONE will trust me?!?
I have 1st hand knowledge & information about everything I said.
So, FUCK OFF if you don't believe me!
Whats the downside?
@@razwerks9951
Downsides (for some):
* Expensive
* Kinda big than other MESH router
The disconnects that happened to others before, are mostly fixed in the latest firmware update.
Get the new stocks from Costco, and y'all will love it.
Have a great weekend
UK consumer “which” had the linksys as Best Buy.
"Hateful Child 1"
HAHAHA
Whats so funny boomer
@@xila8861 Perfect comment
Great work
You said scenarios - trying to decide which is best for my situation - 1100sq Ft apartment condo ( with metal in the walls - basically 2 bedrooms & a living room. Can anyone help me
What about Eero?
Hector Pelayo ditto
Question, does each unit of the TPlink need to be connected to an Ethernet cable? Or do they pick up the wifi and bounce it around?
can I connect this TP LINK MESH S4 to an existing ASUS RT-AC68U? I need those ethernet ports . I was hoping to put my new TPLINK S4 on my existing system. I'm guessing no go
you have gigabit internet but only get 300 mbps? whats the point of gig internet then? I have seen other reviewers max out at 500 on some of these routers.
Will the Samsung or TP Link work best with a Ring Doorbell 2?
Nathan B you might want to go in and check your upload speed settings. I had this same issues using my nighthawk. Using your cellphone turnoff the cellular antenna and turn on Wifi Only. Run your speed test at the ring doorbell with the door closed. If your upload speed is less than 1mb/ sec then you know your router settings need to be reconfigured. Once I did that on my Netgear Nighthawk, I had no more issues
mickey122004 ..
What’s your insight on Luxul AC3100?... my home theater expert recommend it but I cant find any review with substantial facts. Just it $800.?!... yikes
My home its 3K feet compact size 5 bedrooms and an office downstairs.
So do they not need to be hardwired?
I need a guest network that covers a 6000 ft2 bar. It needs to stay connected as customers move around, so I like the mesh features. I set up 3 ASUS routers in their AIMESH mode. They DO NOT extend the guest network, and ASUS tech support Says that it does not support extending the guest network. Do any of these routers extend the guest network to all the interconnected routers? What I need is a strong signal where customers can connect to the internet, but cannot get to the internal network, or to the router setup web page. Do any of these do this?
I got the DLink m4 mesh kit Thxs for that
Thank you
Need a reliable home mesh systems to moniter the kids any idea what is best I need something that I can check the websites they use
What about use in a brick building?
Why didn't you include the nighthawk?
Hi guys, do you turn off your wifi? Or is it ok to just let them on 24/7?
I have a modem router that has a sim card installed to receive mobile internet. Is there a mesh system that can take a sim card rather than be plugged into an Ethernet port?
Cheers for the video!
I was torn to which to get, you show the TP Link M4; anyone know the the M9 is like?