Ran an IT business for over 10 years when I was younger. The problem with the router built into most modems is not necessarily the WiFi, it's the DHCP. That is designed to automatically assign IP addresses to devices. With 2 routers, they can often interfere where an IP is assigned which is outside the range of the other. You can disable that and the WiFi on your modem/router and it should work the same as having a dedicated modem.
As an AT&T tech, have to say you made a great choice. Coverage is the single biggest issue we face. Putting your providers modem to bridge mode/passthrough and using mesh system will definitely benefit you. If accessing the modem is tricky or intimidating for you, just give a call to your provider and ask them to set up bridge mode. Tech supports reps are trained on this within the first month of getting the job, so 99% of the times you will have it done with them in 5 minutes.
can i ask will bridge mode matter if the main routers wifi radio is turned off, i ask because i can use internet router ports while using the google mesh or is bridge better, ive been having shite speeds and ive heard its cause of dynamic ips on pure fibre lines not the copper the proper stuff, so i got a static ip and ive already seen an improvement not sure how but it is a thing
@@moshahid8688 no you need to put it into bridge mode or you can get a thing called double NAT which can mess up devices in your home. If you put the router into bridge mode the ports on the back of the router still work
@@OfficialDeathScythei did this & noticed my modem/router combo would get about 200mbps faster speeds ? I connected 3 google nest wifi pro mesh system & i dont get past 310-320mbps & pay for 1 gigabit internet from comcast idk what to change anymore
For anyone owning one of these Modem/Router Combos: Make sure you use them in Bridge Mode. That essentially disables the WiFi functions of the modem. 9/10 times you can call your ISP and they'll do that for you. Then, just connect a router for WiFi (go the mesh route if your place is too big for a single router) and you should be good to go.
You didn’t need to buy another modem but as a fellow tech guy I understand the urge! I’ve been doing this for years now but with my ISP’s router. I logged into their router and turned off the Wi-Fi. Also your speed is probably really fast bc the your mesh system is using 80mhz channels instead of 40mhz (which could be a good thing or bad thing depending on how much other wifi signals your current system can pick up). And yes the added wifi signal from the combo modem will cause interference!
@@DragginThaWagon that is correct! The hardest part would be finding the login to the router. Once’s logged in, just navigate to your wifi settings and disable the wifi providing that you have your own WiFi system! If more ppl would do this, everyone’s wifi signal would improve especially in neighborhoods where the houses to next to each other!
Yeah I was gonna comment the same thing. Any of those combo units would have the option to bridge (turning off the router). BUT it was a good idea anyways because most ISP-provided equipment is garbage and that CM1200 is better than anything they’d give.
Sometime that's actually impossible to do. The newer modems (like with Spectrum) forces the wifi on with no way of turning it off at all, I'm guessing to allow their hotspot BS to work at the expense of their customers.
@@Ortiane Actually if you call in and say "hey I don't want spectrum wifi, just turn it off" they'll send a signal out to your modem to turn off onboard wifi. At least thats what I had to do before I moved and stopped being a spectrum customer. What sucks about most cable ISPs these days is they'll deny giving you certain higher speed plans unless you get their hardware despite your own hardware being better or on par, and the sales people aren't very much aware of how things work they're just there to read a script so I can't really blame the support/sales people much.
Lol for the first time I think i can actually say the "Average Consumer" title is on point. Knowing a few things about network I never got the ISP modems/ routers combo. Always had my own separate modem / router something the average consumer would never think about.
Just by logging into majority of your ISP provided modem's you can change them to bridging mode and it turns off their wifi. Also get a wired backhaul for all the nest nodes, and you are good to go. There is nothing wrong with Orbi, eero, TP link or google mesh. They all work fine.
Yeah basically this, I use Orbi with my isp’s router but the reason I don’t have issues is because I put my isp’s router into modem(bridged) mode in its settings so it doesn’t have its own signals. He’s dropping signal because the devices keep swapping between 2 different networks with different port reservation settings etc.
I actually did the same this week - upgraded from the Nest 5 mesh (previous gen). I spent hours and days working with tech support and couldn’t determine the source for my bandwidth issues. I even have 4 extenders in addition to the modem. Well, I finally gave up and purchased the Nest Wifi Pro 3 pack. Now, the internet is back in all its glory!
This came at the perfect time. I've been having issues with our wifi signal for years now, we even have the 2nd gen google mesh wifi system and still our speeds are shit. I'll definitely take your advice here!
The very first thing you should do is turn off the WiFi in the ISP's combo box. Some let you do it yourself by connecting a computer directly to it, some disable automatically when an external router is connected, but others require you to call the ISP to turn it off. Thankfully Verizon FiOS has just the modem part, so I don't have to deal with that anymore.
This is the best advice for anyone, whether you bought your own modem/wireless router combo or if it's provided by your ISP. Hopefully others see the above comment and look into turning off the wireless feature.
I just upgraded from my Nighthawk router to the Google nest pro setup, exactly like yours and man, It completely fixed my wifi issues 💯. It's amazing, the 3 node setup provides 6600 total square ft coverage, which consistently provides blazing speeds inside and outside fge home. Totally satisfied with this.
I've also had wifi issues from the router that Fios gave me. About a year ago I got a new ASUS router and replaced the one Fios gave me. About 2 months in, the speeds went from Gigabit to 20-80mbps at best. My ethernet directly from the modem was still getting gigabit speeds though! After a lot of issues and even getting a warranty replacement thinking it was the ASUS routers fault, I put the old router in and again I had great speeds with terrible coverage. MY SOLUTION: I connected the Fios router, turned off the WiFi on it and connected my ASUS router to the Fios router instead of the modem. My internet has never been better. I only wish Fios or ASUS support was smart enough to give me this solution because I got on the phone with both of them multiple times and no one was able to give me that answer.. I hope this comment helps someone else who had the same issue as me!
This discussion was on point, I really needed this. Like you Judd, I have been struggling with dead zones all over my house, but I purchased the Google nest Wi-Fi pro 6E, and have never looked back. There are no more drops or areas in my house that I don’t receive service, and they were unbelievably easy to install. I have AT&T 1 GB speed and I did not need an additional router, I just turned off the AT&T Wi-Fi and used the Google nest Wi-Fi pros. Thanks for the recommendation.
I am honestly more surprised that your home did not have ethernet in the walls already. I figured someone with a tech focused channel would have paid someone to come run ethernet in all of the places. I used to have the 1ST Gen Google Home WIFI and I kept having issues with 4 routers in a small house. I have since gotten TP- Link Deco and it works much better.
I had the O.G. Google WiFi 3-pack mesh system for years. It was ok, but I was never really happy with the speed or the range. I bought the Google Nest WiFi Pro 3-pack about 3 months ago and it's been way better. Tip: When upgrading any router system, be sure to make the login and password of the new router the same as the old one that you replaced so that all of your devices automatically connect to the new system without you having to do anything. We have 54 connected devices in our house and it would suck to have to redo them all.
So, I was a network administrator for 10 or more years and owned my own wireless solutions company for businesses and for that home setup, mesh networks are not the way to go. Each mesh node gets like 50% or less signal and relays it to the next node., degrading it each time/node. You are just decreasing your bandwidth for each node down the line. What you want to do is get a Unifi setup from Ubiquiti. Keep the modem you have, hook it into the Unifi Dream Router, then run an ethernet cable (preferably wall-dropped) main level, upstairs and to the basement to Unifi Switch Lite 8 PoE switches and put Unifi U6 Long-Range antennas in the ceilings (3 should do it for each floor) and wire them from the switch. You should have 3 antennas upstairs, 3 on the main floor, and maybe 2 in the basement. Maybe one on the back patio and one in the garage for the Tesla. You might want to wire your game systems and computers right into ethernet as you don't want them to be wireless. It will mess with bandwidth and latency if you do. Then make 4 wifi users... one for business, one for home, one for IoT, and one for guests. If you do it like this, you will have super, super fast connectivity in all areas of your house and get full bars everywhere, even the garage and backyard.
As a cable tech I recommend checking with your isp and making sure there’s no ingress on the lines(s) or the node. Something as a bad wall plate can cause issues for a while, maybe I’m biased but usually I don’t see a difference when customers use their own modems compared to the company’s gateways, only thing is that I wouldn’t expect them to completely cover the home especially basements, or certain corners of the home especially big homes
Your a cable tech question for you what do you recommend in the mornings when nobody’s on the Internet I’m getting good speeds at night when the kids and everybody’s home I’m getting really low Internet speeds and a lot of buffering at night. What do you recommend to fix this issue?
I had a similar issue as well. I have the amplifi router shown in the video. Also with my ISP gave me the modem/router combo. The issue that it is was causing whats called Double NAT. This is when two routers are and the same network and they clash. This would cause my wifi and network to drop unexpectedly for no reason at random times of the day. To fix the issue I had to call my ISP and request that they put their modem/router in bridge mode. With Bridge mode on this allows the ISP modem/router to turn off it's WIfi Broadcast turning it into a bridge between the network and another router. This allowed my router to work with no issues.
Huawei AX3(wifi6) you can buy 3 for around 75EU UTP between them and you got some speed and good coverage(turn the WiFi of your modemrouter off) You can turn any router in bridge settings
Anyone notice the whole on his sweater lol caught my eye but besides that love you guys here absolutely my number one channel to visit for tech. Just always feels like I’m with a long time friend. Such great vibes from everyone here
Dude!! You just helped me fix a year of headaches. I’ve tried everything and as soon as I set up a new modem last night I’ve had that God tier internet. That’s why you’re the man!!!
As others have mentioned, you can also log in to the ISP modem and turn off the wifi, which will eliminate the extra signal; Additionally, you can also use a wifi signal analyzer and see all the other networks around you, and it will tell you which channels they are on, and you can switch to a channel with the lease congestion, especially if you live in a building or condo; Another reason to dump the ISP modem/router, you can save the extra monthly hardware rental fee they charge by getting your own. I switch from Comcast to Fios and didn't have to return or get a modem or router.
My tip that worked for me is turn off all wifi from your ISPs modem, use the wifi only on your router. Some ISPs will not allow you to use your own modem, they lock it to the modem they give you. I use an Asus AX88U(not sure if that’s accurate), turned off all wifi antennas on the ISP modem, no drops since then.
I’m glad you fixed that problem, cable companies equipment can cause a lot problems. I have Xfinity 1 Gigabit speeds. I have the Netgear CM2000 modem, and the Netgear Nighthawk AX8 AX6600 WiFi 6 Router. My speeds are 913.91 down, 41.82 up, ping 11.0; smooth sailing.
They way I fixed this on my 3 story house was to send Ethernet cable to the 3 floors and wire the mesh system points with a small netgear 8 port switch. With this configuration you’ll get the full speed around the house.
I'm not sure if this is the case for most Modem/Router combos, but a lot of times you can work with the ISP to change the combo unit into just a modem, disabling the wifi, and just sending the connection to your router to control the network. I did this for AT&T and I use my Wifi Router is the only network in my home.
I have the older google mesh wifi routers, and they have been awesome! My only complaint is that they really don't support ipv6 is any meaningful way. You can have internal ipv6 addresses for things on your local network, but cannot access anything outside your network. Probably not a deal-breaker for most people, but it's a little annoying for me.
I believe the only additional think I would recommend is doing the wired backhaul (connect via ethernet multiple mesh points to increase performance). Great suggestions anyhow!
Agreed, this will make the wifi signals the same as the main router connected to your modem throughout the entire house. The only downside is it requires the house to be wired with ethernet which may not always be easy.
A dedicated Wi-Fi router by itself can make a big difference. Plunked a Netgear Orbi mesh in and got 100Mbps more throughput than the ISP's modem/router combo, even while sitting in the same room. (I disabled the modem's Wi-Fi, of course.)
Just get Plume Superpods and use one for every 2 rooms. It’s the best mesh network. Better than every single one you just used. Instead of punching through multiple walls from far away they concentrate to every room. So you are near the access point itself closer for better performance.
Should have picked up from TP-Link Deco line up! Much better than what you had shown. 6E backbone or wired backbone. And have Ethernet ports on EACH node!
That must be SOO nice! I’m currently have issues with mine as well BUT it’s not so easily resolved like yours 😩😭 I live in an area where many companies aren’t even available. Such a struggle tbh. Good for you and your family 👏
I have been using my own modem and router for over ten years. I highly recommend going that route. Over that period I changed my modem and router once. The router because I wanted an upgrade and modem because I needed to upgrade for the faster speeds I had signed up for.
Disable wifi and switch to bridge mode on the ISP's device. Once you do that, it literally just acts like a modem. That's what I did as I also set up a mesh wifi network in my house
Wow I’m surprised the Orbi didn’t work for u. I plugged mine into the provider box and it worked fine . I’m still using their old Orbi RBK50. I am happy you finally finally finally got some piece of mind with you wifi.
The only thing I want to add to this is. He is right on every aspect except for one thing. When you have your own modem and have an issue the first thing the provider says "well looks like you are using your own modem". Second if you live somewhere rural like me with no internet and have a cellular modem two networks is the only options. Either way these google 6Es cover area great. I love them.
The main problem in my area is *interference* from the neighbors Wi-Fi, because most of them have the router/modem combo from the ISP. You can ask the ISP to turn off the router part, so your device works just as a modem, it is not as fast as changing the modem but it does help (my ISP doesn’t allow me to change my modem; I did and it was working great until they blocked my home and said that I am not allowed to change my modem…). I’m going to try Nest 3rd Gen. Thanks for the video!
I paid for my own modem because I could cancel the rental fee. It paid for itself within a year. Then one thing led to another and now I have a UDM Pro SE and multiple unifi APs.
Glad you are happy about getting it fixed but did you try disabling the wifi on the cable modem? Seems like you had just many devices in the home messing with the spectrum. Additionally, these mesh systems work best running cat 5 or cat 6 to them.. using 6 mesh radios is a lot as well.
I use my ISPs provided modem and the nighthawk mesh network and get close to a gig over wifi. You probably have so many things connected that cause interference.
Great video, also you can have all nodes as routers instead of a router and 2 points, the all routers solution will even boost the signal more as the router’s signal is double the strength. The setup is exactly the same with the routers only solution.
He's got the issue of a congested Wifi radio space. The wifi before wasn't properly optimized on a channel with the least congestion. Wifi 6E fixes this issue with a dedicated backhaul connection that usually has no congestion as Wifi 6E frequencies don't have mass adoption yet.
I had an issue with my Wi-Fi speeds not being fast enough. Countless reboots, ISP calls, and nothing. I was paying for 1gb down and 1gb up. But would only average 300-400. Then one ISP told me to check if my modem was even capable with 1gb support. So I bought a modem off of Amazon and activated it on their services and sure enough I’m constantly getting 1gb down and 1gb up. Modems aren’t future proof for speeds. But I’m happy now
I had issues in my house until I went to eufy mesh system. Much like the Google one only mine is Wi-Fi 6 not 6e. I did the same one on each floor of the house and now I can connect from everywhere in the house.
The Asus ax6600 is only Wifi 6. Wifi 6E brings a 6ghz band that allows the mesh to communicate among themselves with way less interference. From a modem/router provider perspective if you just disable the included Wifi you are good to go and you can use your own AP´s or Router. Happy for you that you found a definitive solution to your Wifi problems 😉
Another option to consider is ethernet over coax. Those boxes will give you a wired connection in any room that has a cable drop. From there you can connect a switch and get wired speeds.
@@jasonhillone The box looks like any other network switch, but it lets you use the existing coax running through your house be as if it were ethernet. You set up your modem like you normally would, then you connect one of these coax to ethernet switches in each room that has a coax drop. Plug a switch into the box, and you now have wired ethernet in every room that has a coax drop. No need to run long ethernet cords all over the house. Now you may have to have a cable from one side of the room to the other, depending on where the devices are that need a wired connection, but that is a much shorter run than all over the house.
That a good starting router, i found that anything above 2,000 sqft would give you issue . The port on the router is also capped at 1gigbit. The orbi and others are 2.5
Dude turning on Bridge mode on your Modem Router combo solves most if not all of the problems you face with using an ISP modem router combo with Third Party routers. Also, I would look into adding nest WiFi routers as your points using ethernet and not wireless. Will increase your speeds in those areas drastically. If you use Cat6 cables you can potentially have the same speeds on your Router points as the main router. (Like 600 mbps instead of only 160 mbps) Significantly less interference on the back hall as well because it's wired not wireless between all three points. Meaning connection and controlling things on your local network will be significantly quicker as well! Another bonus of using the Nest WiFi pro router as a point is that the WiFi radios are better than the point.
Hi I’m from South Africa and my mom just bought a farm which we live at now. This was the perfect video I needed because mobile service is not great (also 1 bar😂). But the WiFi drops an awful lot. So I’m gonna read up on these products to see if it could work and if they are available. Thank you for the tech tips as always.
Broooooooo....Omg my wifi was dropping off 5-10 x a day.... Set my modem to modem only and I finally added Nest Pro to my Nighthawk today... Went from 💩 5mps to 🎉500+mps. ✨🎉 Can't believe I waited so long.
Update my internet goes down intermittent at 5pmish and 3am randomly. Wtf cameras disconnect but mesh system test 600mg+ could it be my internet provider? Xfinity
Came to say the same, it might not have been the modem/router combo itself, but that you could have been double NAT'd and had multiple WiFi networks running. Setting the modem/router to bridge mode and turning off it's WiFi radio(s) might have fixed it for you.
My ISP allows me to put their cable modem router combo into bridge mode which turns off their internal router which enables me to be able to use my own router. That way they are not conflicting because you are correct. If you have their internal router enabled, you will have terrible issues. Would love to see a video with your ISPs device and see if you can turn off the internal router and do a comparison to the network you currently have with your ISP modem router combo with the internal router turned off and see if that makes a difference between the two. I am also a techie and went to school for computers and networking
Yeah man, being there for the moment someone else fixes their wifi should be a big moment in your life. Glad you could have that experience, something to share with the grandkids one day.
Been setting up wifi and fixing wifi in homes for years, always always always first thing i do is disable or replace cable company router with Motorola and always fixes the problems.
Lol as soon as I saw Optimum in your Speed test I felt your frustration. Optimum cable sucks. I had them for 4 years and oh boy was it bad. Buying my own modem, changing routers replacing all the cables around my house changing my port in the node... Finally they brought their fiber internet to my street and after getting their fiber everything was perfection except their forced to use ONT and modem/router combo (you are stuck with their modem if you are using their fiber service).
In my opinion...you should just go with the Nighthawk and a Unifi set up for the router / gateway. Their new Unifi Dream Router has been performing very well in my deployments. They have more of an expandable array hardware.
With a ton of wireless devices you will still run into issues. Each wireless mesh device is clogging up the wireless in your house. Need a hardwired backbone for each mesh device. That’s why you are only seeing 100mbps in the basement compared to a gig service.
Question, i noticed you have sound panels in your media room. Where did you purchase then from and would you say they are efficient in reducing noise passing through walls?
Great review! Question; I found the Netgear router that you’re using on Amazon and it says it no longer works with Xfinity. Is that correct? Also, do you have a website or a guide to do how you did your set up with turning off the Wi-Fi and then using the nest as your primary instead of having to Wi-Fi signal logins? Thank you !!!
What was the issue with Netgear Orbi? As I have the Orbi system which has been superb in my duplex apartment with speed up to 500mb wireless up and down on 1GB connection. But wanna upgrade either to WI-FI 7 or maybe sooner with Google 6e as I love the design. Like to know your thoughts 💭
I’d encourage people to set up one mesh node at a time and check the coverage first before adding more. Sometimes you can over saturate. 6 nodes is a lot!!
Disable the wifi on the ISP modem/router and you won’t have interference. Most people are required to use the isp modem router unless you have cable internet or legacy dsl.
If you have ethernet run around your house get a mesh network that will let you hardwire the mesh nodes for the best service. If the mesh nodes are connected to each other only wirelessly you will have much more chance of interference and weak signal. People tend to place the mesh nodes I the room that has poor service. This only repeats an already weak signal they need to be placed in a location where it can receive a decent signal and then transmit that good signal back out.
Hi Happy to discover your channel ❤ I have more than 65 connected devices In my home can you tel me what’s the best router ? Sorry for my english😅 cuz am from 🇲🇦 morocco africa
What u should do is see if it can do hardwired back haul then find a nearby phone jack rewire for Ethernet and hardwire the extended Wi-Fi nodes via hardwire thru the nearby phone jacks looks like a new house is it probably has cat 5 for phone wires
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Ran an IT business for over 10 years when I was younger. The problem with the router built into most modems is not necessarily the WiFi, it's the DHCP. That is designed to automatically assign IP addresses to devices. With 2 routers, they can often interfere where an IP is assigned which is outside the range of the other. You can disable that and the WiFi on your modem/router and it should work the same as having a dedicated modem.
As an AT&T tech, have to say you made a great choice. Coverage is the single biggest issue we face. Putting your providers modem to bridge mode/passthrough and using mesh system will definitely benefit you. If accessing the modem is tricky or intimidating for you, just give a call to your provider and ask them to set up bridge mode. Tech supports reps are trained on this within the first month of getting the job, so 99% of the times you will have it done with them in 5 minutes.
I was about to comment this actually. I have an xfinity router in bridged mode connected to a google wifi router, def the way to go.
can i ask will bridge mode matter if the main routers wifi radio is turned off, i ask because i can use internet router ports while using the google mesh or is bridge better, ive been having shite speeds and ive heard its cause of dynamic ips on pure fibre lines not the copper the proper stuff, so i got a static ip and ive already seen an improvement not sure how but it is a thing
@@moshahid8688 no you need to put it into bridge mode or you can get a thing called double NAT which can mess up devices in your home. If you put the router into bridge mode the ports on the back of the router still work
@@OfficialDeathScythei did this & noticed my modem/router combo would get about 200mbps faster speeds ? I connected 3 google nest wifi pro mesh system & i dont get past 310-320mbps & pay for 1 gigabit internet from comcast idk what to change anymore
Followed your advice and my speed in in my far office doubled. Thank you
For anyone owning one of these Modem/Router Combos: Make sure you use them in Bridge Mode. That essentially disables the WiFi functions of the modem. 9/10 times you can call your ISP and they'll do that for you. Then, just connect a router for WiFi (go the mesh route if your place is too big for a single router) and you should be good to go.
you can manually disable the wifi on the modem if you connect to the settings page before setting up the router
@@TimberWulfIsHerewhat if the modem is ont
You didn’t need to buy another modem but as a fellow tech guy I understand the urge! I’ve been doing this for years now but with my ISP’s router. I logged into their router and turned off the Wi-Fi. Also your speed is probably really fast bc the your mesh system is using 80mhz channels instead of 40mhz (which could be a good thing or bad thing depending on how much other wifi signals your current system can pick up). And yes the added wifi signal from the combo modem will cause interference!
So if i have a modem and router i log into the modem and disable the wifi through there and just pull from the routers signal?
@@DragginThaWagon that is correct! The hardest part would be finding the login to the router. Once’s logged in, just navigate to your wifi settings and disable the wifi providing that you have your own WiFi system! If more ppl would do this, everyone’s wifi signal would improve especially in neighborhoods where the houses to next to each other!
Yeah I was gonna comment the same thing. Any of those combo units would have the option to bridge (turning off the router).
BUT it was a good idea anyways because most ISP-provided equipment is garbage and that CM1200 is better than anything they’d give.
Sometime that's actually impossible to do. The newer modems (like with Spectrum) forces the wifi on with no way of turning it off at all, I'm guessing to allow their hotspot BS to work at the expense of their customers.
@@Ortiane Actually if you call in and say "hey I don't want spectrum wifi, just turn it off" they'll send a signal out to your modem to turn off onboard wifi. At least thats what I had to do before I moved and stopped being a spectrum customer.
What sucks about most cable ISPs these days is they'll deny giving you certain higher speed plans unless you get their hardware despite your own hardware being better or on par, and the sales people aren't very much aware of how things work they're just there to read a script so I can't really blame the support/sales people much.
TP-Link Deco XE75 have been GAME CHANGING for my house. Highly recommend that setup, too.
The government might be banning the Tp link router. I hope not because I like them.
Lol for the first time I think i can actually say the "Average Consumer" title is on point. Knowing a few things about network I never got the ISP modems/ routers combo. Always had my own separate modem / router something the average consumer would never think about.
Just by logging into majority of your ISP provided modem's you can change them to bridging mode and it turns off their wifi. Also get a wired backhaul for all the nest nodes, and you are good to go. There is nothing wrong with Orbi, eero, TP link or google mesh. They all work fine.
Yeah basically this, I use Orbi with my isp’s router but the reason I don’t have issues is because I put my isp’s router into modem(bridged) mode in its settings so it doesn’t have its own signals. He’s dropping signal because the devices keep swapping between 2 different networks with different port reservation settings etc.
I did the wired backhaul too. Ran an ethernet cable thru the wall to my basement and to my upstairs bonus room. 500Mbps nearly all over my 2800 home.
Man listen......you sounded so happy that it's fixed I was waiting to see a single tear of happiness.
I actually did the same this week - upgraded from the Nest 5 mesh (previous gen). I spent hours and days working with tech support and couldn’t determine the source for my bandwidth issues. I even have 4 extenders in addition to the modem. Well, I finally gave up and purchased the Nest Wifi Pro 3 pack. Now, the internet is back in all its glory!
Any issues since you posted this?
@@ElevatedVehiclesno, zero issues!
@@curteye22 nice! Thank you
This came at the perfect time. I've been having issues with our wifi signal for years now, we even have the 2nd gen google mesh wifi system and still our speeds are shit. I'll definitely take your advice here!
The very first thing you should do is turn off the WiFi in the ISP's combo box. Some let you do it yourself by connecting a computer directly to it, some disable automatically when an external router is connected, but others require you to call the ISP to turn it off. Thankfully Verizon FiOS has just the modem part, so I don't have to deal with that anymore.
This is the best advice for anyone, whether you bought your own modem/wireless router combo or if it's provided by your ISP. Hopefully others see the above comment and look into turning off the wireless feature.
They won’t tell you but with fios you don’t need isp box any router can be connected directly to the ethernet cord
Yeah no kidding. Cant have 2 WiFi in the same house
Same I did this and my nighthawk mesh been doing gods work. I’m surprised Judd never tried that one
I just upgraded from my Nighthawk router to the Google nest pro setup, exactly like yours and man, It completely fixed my wifi issues 💯. It's amazing, the 3 node setup provides 6600 total square ft coverage, which consistently provides blazing speeds inside and outside fge home. Totally satisfied with this.
What is the nighhawk modem you user? Can you provide the model number? Thanks!
I've also had wifi issues from the router that Fios gave me. About a year ago I got a new ASUS router and replaced the one Fios gave me. About 2 months in, the speeds went from Gigabit to 20-80mbps at best. My ethernet directly from the modem was still getting gigabit speeds though! After a lot of issues and even getting a warranty replacement thinking it was the ASUS routers fault, I put the old router in and again I had great speeds with terrible coverage. MY SOLUTION: I connected the Fios router, turned off the WiFi on it and connected my ASUS router to the Fios router instead of the modem. My internet has never been better. I only wish Fios or ASUS support was smart enough to give me this solution because I got on the phone with both of them multiple times and no one was able to give me that answer.. I hope this comment helps someone else who had the same issue as me!
This discussion was on point, I really needed this. Like you Judd, I have been struggling with dead zones all over my house, but I purchased the Google nest Wi-Fi pro 6E, and have never looked back. There are no more drops or areas in my house that I don’t receive service, and they were unbelievably easy to install. I have AT&T 1 GB speed and I did not need an additional router, I just turned off the AT&T Wi-Fi and used the Google nest Wi-Fi pros. Thanks for the recommendation.
I am honestly more surprised that your home did not have ethernet in the walls already. I figured someone with a tech focused channel would have paid someone to come run ethernet in all of the places. I used to have the 1ST Gen Google Home WIFI and I kept having issues with 4 routers in a small house. I have since gotten TP- Link Deco and it works much better.
I had the O.G. Google WiFi 3-pack mesh system for years. It was ok, but I was never really happy with the speed or the range.
I bought the Google Nest WiFi Pro 3-pack about 3 months ago and it's been way better.
Tip: When upgrading any router system, be sure to make the login and password of the new router the same as the old one that you replaced so that all of your devices automatically connect to the new system without you having to do anything. We have 54 connected devices in our house and it would suck to have to redo them all.
Man, this video helped me out a ton bro... Went from a 300-400 speed to 750-870 speed.... Thanks bro....
So, I was a network administrator for 10 or more years and owned my own wireless solutions company for businesses and for that home setup, mesh networks are not the way to go. Each mesh node gets like 50% or less signal and relays it to the next node., degrading it each time/node. You are just decreasing your bandwidth for each node down the line. What you want to do is get a Unifi setup from Ubiquiti. Keep the modem you have, hook it into the Unifi Dream Router, then run an ethernet cable (preferably wall-dropped) main level, upstairs and to the basement to Unifi Switch Lite 8 PoE switches and put Unifi U6 Long-Range antennas in the ceilings (3 should do it for each floor) and wire them from the switch. You should have 3 antennas upstairs, 3 on the main floor, and maybe 2 in the basement. Maybe one on the back patio and one in the garage for the Tesla. You might want to wire your game systems and computers right into ethernet as you don't want them to be wireless. It will mess with bandwidth and latency if you do. Then make 4 wifi users... one for business, one for home, one for IoT, and one for guests. If you do it like this, you will have super, super fast connectivity in all areas of your house and get full bars everywhere, even the garage and backyard.
As a cable tech I recommend checking with your isp and making sure there’s no ingress on the lines(s) or the node. Something as a bad wall plate can cause issues for a while, maybe I’m biased but usually I don’t see a difference when customers use their own modems compared to the company’s gateways, only thing is that I wouldn’t expect them to completely cover the home especially basements, or certain corners of the home especially big homes
As if most people reading this comments will know what the f ingress means or what the hell is a node . Lol..let alone how to check for all that..smh
Your a cable tech question for you what do you recommend in the mornings when nobody’s on the Internet I’m getting good speeds at night when the kids and everybody’s home I’m getting really low Internet speeds and a lot of buffering at night. What do you recommend to fix this issue?
I had a similar issue as well. I have the amplifi router shown in the video. Also with my ISP gave me the modem/router combo. The issue that it is was causing whats called Double NAT. This is when two routers are and the same network and they clash. This would cause my wifi and network to drop unexpectedly for no reason at random times of the day. To fix the issue I had to call my ISP and request that they put their modem/router in bridge mode. With Bridge mode on this allows the ISP modem/router to turn off it's WIfi Broadcast turning it into a bridge between the network and another router. This allowed my router to work with no issues.
Huawei AX3(wifi6) you can buy 3 for around 75EU UTP between them and you got some speed and good coverage(turn the WiFi of your modemrouter off)
You can turn any router in bridge settings
Anyone notice the whole on his sweater lol caught my eye but besides that love you guys here absolutely my number one channel to visit for tech. Just always feels like I’m with a long time friend. Such great vibes from everyone here
You've earned a sub for this one🎉
Dude!! You just helped me fix a year of headaches. I’ve tried everything and as soon as I set up a new modem last night I’ve had that God tier internet.
That’s why you’re the man!!!
As others have mentioned, you can also log in to the ISP modem and turn off the wifi, which will eliminate the extra signal; Additionally, you can also use a wifi signal analyzer and see all the other networks around you, and it will tell you which channels they are on, and you can switch to a channel with the lease congestion, especially if you live in a building or condo; Another reason to dump the ISP modem/router, you can save the extra monthly hardware rental fee they charge by getting your own. I switch from Comcast to Fios and didn't have to return or get a modem or router.
My tip that worked for me is turn off all wifi from your ISPs modem, use the wifi only on your router. Some ISPs will not allow you to use your own modem, they lock it to the modem they give you. I use an Asus AX88U(not sure if that’s accurate), turned off all wifi antennas on the ISP modem, no drops since then.
I’m glad you fixed that problem, cable companies equipment can cause a lot problems. I have Xfinity 1 Gigabit speeds. I have the Netgear CM2000 modem, and the Netgear Nighthawk AX8 AX6600 WiFi 6 Router. My speeds are 913.91 down, 41.82 up, ping 11.0; smooth sailing.
They way I fixed this on my 3 story house was to send Ethernet cable to the 3 floors and wire the mesh system points with a small netgear 8 port switch. With this configuration you’ll get the full speed around the house.
I'm not sure if this is the case for most Modem/Router combos, but a lot of times you can work with the ISP to change the combo unit into just a modem, disabling the wifi, and just sending the connection to your router to control the network. I did this for AT&T and I use my Wifi Router is the only network in my home.
I have the older google mesh wifi routers, and they have been awesome! My only complaint is that they really don't support ipv6 is any meaningful way. You can have internal ipv6 addresses for things on your local network, but cannot access anything outside your network. Probably not a deal-breaker for most people, but it's a little annoying for me.
I believe the only additional think I would recommend is doing the wired backhaul (connect via ethernet multiple mesh points to increase performance). Great suggestions anyhow!
Agreed, this will make the wifi signals the same as the main router connected to your modem throughout the entire house. The only downside is it requires the house to be wired with ethernet which may not always be easy.
A dedicated Wi-Fi router by itself can make a big difference. Plunked a Netgear Orbi mesh in and got 100Mbps more throughput than the ISP's modem/router combo, even while sitting in the same room. (I disabled the modem's Wi-Fi, of course.)
Just get Plume Superpods and use one for every 2 rooms. It’s the best mesh network. Better than every single one you just used. Instead of punching through multiple walls from far away they concentrate to every room. So you are near the access point itself closer for better performance.
Should have picked up from TP-Link Deco line up! Much better than what you had shown. 6E backbone or wired backbone. And have Ethernet ports on EACH node!
I just had my home wired with ethernet jacks in every room. Wired backhaul with these mesh system is a MUST!
Just saw your ad for the Remarkable 2 tablet. I must say, loved the ad. Congrats bro. You are literally being asked by brands for ads now. 👍🏼
That must be SOO nice! I’m currently have issues with mine as well BUT it’s not so easily resolved like yours 😩😭 I live in an area where many companies aren’t even available. Such a struggle tbh. Good for you and your family 👏
I have been using my own modem and router for over ten years. I highly recommend going that route. Over that period I changed my modem and router once. The router because I wanted an upgrade and modem because I needed to upgrade for the faster speeds I had signed up for.
Disable wifi and switch to bridge mode on the ISP's device. Once you do that, it literally just acts like a modem. That's what I did as I also set up a mesh wifi network in my house
Wow I’m surprised the Orbi didn’t work for u. I plugged mine into the provider box and it worked fine . I’m still using their old Orbi RBK50. I am happy you finally finally finally got some piece of mind with you wifi.
The only thing I want to add to this is. He is right on every aspect except for one thing. When you have your own modem and have an issue the first thing the provider says "well looks like you are using your own modem". Second if you live somewhere rural like me with no internet and have a cellular modem two networks is the only options. Either way these google 6Es cover area great. I love them.
The main problem in my area is *interference* from the neighbors Wi-Fi, because most of them have the router/modem combo from the ISP. You can ask the ISP to turn off the router part, so your device works just as a modem, it is not as fast as changing the modem but it does help (my ISP doesn’t allow me to change my modem; I did and it was working great until they blocked my home and said that I am not allowed to change my modem…). I’m going to try Nest 3rd Gen. Thanks for the video!
The tp link deco lineup works grate for me and it’s backwards compatible with old nodes
I paid for my own modem because I could cancel the rental fee. It paid for itself within a year. Then one thing led to another and now I have a UDM Pro SE and multiple unifi APs.
Man, you don't know how much this video just helped me. I always thought that the cable provider's modem was part of the issue...🤔
I have the same Google mesh system in my house. And it was a game changer for sure!
We used the ethernet through the power lines method. Wifi booster with ethernet port works in those poor coverage areas.
Great content and delivery - thank you.
Glad you are happy about getting it fixed but did you try disabling the wifi on the cable modem? Seems like you had just many devices in the home messing with the spectrum. Additionally, these mesh systems work best running cat 5 or cat 6 to them.. using 6 mesh radios is a lot as well.
I use my ISPs provided modem and the nighthawk mesh network and get close to a gig over wifi. You probably have so many things connected that cause interference.
Great video, also you can have all nodes as routers instead of a router and 2 points, the all routers solution will even boost the signal more as the router’s signal is double the strength. The setup is exactly the same with the routers only solution.
He's got the issue of a congested Wifi radio space. The wifi before wasn't properly optimized on a channel with the least congestion. Wifi 6E fixes this issue with a dedicated backhaul connection that usually has no congestion as Wifi 6E frequencies don't have mass adoption yet.
How are they working now 2024? Do you have a link for the router and the Google mesh? I have the older model Google mesh
I had an issue with my Wi-Fi speeds not being fast enough. Countless reboots, ISP calls, and nothing. I was paying for 1gb down and 1gb up. But would only average 300-400. Then one ISP told me to check if my modem was even capable with 1gb support. So I bought a modem off of Amazon and activated it on their services and sure enough I’m constantly getting 1gb down and 1gb up. Modems aren’t future proof for speeds. But I’m happy now
Judd I wish I knew this but so glad you figured out what Matters.Good luck to you all ✌️
I got google fiber 2 gig and you don't get a choice to use anything outside of their mesh and modems. Thankfully it's been mostly reliable.
I had issues in my house until I went to eufy mesh system. Much like the Google one only mine is Wi-Fi 6 not 6e. I did the same one on each floor of the house and now I can connect from everywhere in the house.
That Anker microphone is great for vlogging.
Having your own modem also saves money in the long run.
Can confirm, changing your combined modem/router to a dedicated router, and the Nighthawk CM1200 gives VERY consistent uploads and download speeds
The Asus ax6600 is only Wifi 6. Wifi 6E brings a 6ghz band that allows the mesh to communicate among themselves with way less interference. From a modem/router provider perspective if you just disable the included Wifi you are good to go and you can use your own AP´s or Router. Happy for you that you found a definitive solution to your Wifi problems 😉
You can also put your ISP modem into bridge mode or if it doesn't have a bridge mode, just turn off its wifi.
Finally someone mentioned this. Double NAT breaks everything
Another option to consider is ethernet over coax. Those boxes will give you a wired connection in any room that has a cable drop. From there you can connect a switch and get wired speeds.
explain more please
@@jasonhillone The box looks like any other network switch, but it lets you use the existing coax running through your house be as if it were ethernet.
You set up your modem like you normally would, then you connect one of these coax to ethernet switches in each room that has a coax drop. Plug a switch into the box, and you now have wired ethernet in every room that has a coax drop. No need to run long ethernet cords all over the house. Now you may have to have a cable from one side of the room to the other, depending on where the devices are that need a wired connection, but that is a much shorter run than all over the house.
@@mjjenkins8809 thx will look into it
@@mjjenkins8809 are you referring to MoCA adapters?
Great advice! Can you provide a link to the equipment please?
That a good starting router, i found that anything above 2,000 sqft would give you issue . The port on the router is also capped at 1gigbit. The orbi and others are 2.5
Somebody show this guy Moca and Ubiquiti 👏
Dude turning on Bridge mode on your Modem Router combo solves most if not all of the problems you face with using an ISP modem router combo with Third Party routers.
Also, I would look into adding nest WiFi routers as your points using ethernet and not wireless. Will increase your speeds in those areas drastically. If you use Cat6 cables you can potentially have the same speeds on your Router points as the main router. (Like 600 mbps instead of only 160 mbps)
Significantly less interference on the back hall as well because it's wired not wireless between all three points. Meaning connection and controlling things on your local network will be significantly quicker as well!
Another bonus of using the Nest WiFi pro router as a point is that the WiFi radios are better than the point.
Yo man………SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY for you! That’s been an issue for soooo long. Can’t wait to see productivity boost up.
Hi I’m from South Africa and my mom just bought a farm which we live at now. This was the perfect video I needed because mobile service is not great (also 1 bar😂). But the WiFi drops an awful lot. So I’m gonna read up on these products to see if it could work and if they are available. Thank you for the tech tips as always.
I had the same exact stability issues with the ASUS routers. They're a complete garbage mesh network.
Broooooooo....Omg my wifi was dropping off 5-10 x a day.... Set my modem to modem only and I finally added Nest Pro to my Nighthawk today... Went from 💩 5mps to 🎉500+mps. ✨🎉 Can't believe I waited so long.
How did you do this
Update my internet goes down intermittent at 5pmish and 3am randomly. Wtf cameras disconnect but mesh system test 600mg+ could it be my internet provider? Xfinity
Great tips, thanks! Especially the modem only. I was thinking about this and you confirmed it...
Are you kidding me???? I saw that router yesterday and today I see this video!!!! Perfect timing !!!
Most modem router combos can be switched to modem only mode. It might help someone avoid shelling out for a modem unnecessarily.
Came to say the same, it might not have been the modem/router combo itself, but that you could have been double NAT'd and had multiple WiFi networks running. Setting the modem/router to bridge mode and turning off it's WiFi radio(s) might have fixed it for you.
I love this channel and the progress you and the family have made!!.. now can you do a video about Xfinity 10g and their new modem’s coming out
My ISP allows me to put their cable modem router combo into bridge mode which turns off their internal router which enables me to be able to use my own router. That way they are not conflicting because you are correct. If you have their internal router enabled, you will have terrible issues. Would love to see a video with your ISPs device and see if you can turn off the internal router and do a comparison to the network you currently have with your ISP modem router combo with the internal router turned off and see if that makes a difference between the two. I am also a techie and went to school for computers and networking
You are a great presenter...knowledgeable, cool, and understandable. Thanks for all your videos.
Have you tried TP Link's Deco WiFi Mesh system? It's incredible
i just turned off the wifi from the providers router and did a pass through to my google mesh router instead of buying my own modem and works great
It's pretty standard to use your own router with your ISP's modem in the UK
It's been years and it's finally resolved! I'm glad I was here for it
Yeah man, being there for the moment someone else fixes their wifi should be a big moment in your life. Glad you could have that experience, something to share with the grandkids one day.
Been setting up wifi and fixing wifi in homes for years, always always always first thing i do is disable or replace cable company router with Motorola and always fixes the problems.
Lol as soon as I saw Optimum in your Speed test I felt your frustration. Optimum cable sucks. I had them for 4 years and oh boy was it bad. Buying my own modem, changing routers replacing all the cables around my house changing my port in the node... Finally they brought their fiber internet to my street and after getting their fiber everything was perfection except their forced to use ONT and modem/router combo (you are stuck with their modem if you are using their fiber service).
In my opinion...you should just go with the Nighthawk and a Unifi set up for the router / gateway. Their new Unifi Dream Router has been performing very well in my deployments. They have more of an expandable array hardware.
With a ton of wireless devices you will still run into issues. Each wireless mesh device is clogging up the wireless in your house. Need a hardwired backbone for each mesh device. That’s why you are only seeing 100mbps in the basement compared to a gig service.
Question, i noticed you have sound panels in your media room. Where did you purchase then from and would you say they are efficient in reducing noise passing through walls?
Can I buy the same combo as you in the video and install it in my bedroom? And how much is the cost for everything and like the monthly charge?
Great review!
Question; I found the Netgear router that you’re using on Amazon and it says it no longer works with Xfinity. Is that correct?
Also, do you have a website or a guide to do how you did your set up with turning off the Wi-Fi and then using the nest as your primary instead of having to Wi-Fi signal logins?
Thank you !!!
What was the issue with Netgear Orbi? As I have the Orbi system which has been superb in my duplex apartment with speed up to 500mb wireless up and down on 1GB connection. But wanna upgrade either to WI-FI 7 or maybe sooner with Google 6e as I love the design. Like to know your thoughts 💭
I’d encourage people to set up one mesh node at a time and check the coverage first before adding more. Sometimes you can over saturate. 6 nodes is a lot!!
Disable the wifi on the ISP modem/router and you won’t have interference. Most people are required to use the isp modem router unless you have cable internet or legacy dsl.
🤯 oh wow. I didn’t know this
Yep when I changed to a arris surfboard modem only and ditched the junk the cable company gave me it solved all my problems.
If you have ethernet run around your house get a mesh network that will let you hardwire the mesh nodes for the best service. If the mesh nodes are connected to each other only wirelessly you will have much more chance of interference and weak signal.
People tend to place the mesh nodes I the room that has poor service. This only repeats an already weak signal they need to be placed in a location where it can receive a decent signal and then transmit that good signal back out.
Hi Happy to discover your channel ❤
I have more than 65 connected devices In my home can you tel me what’s the best router ?
Sorry for my english😅 cuz am from 🇲🇦 morocco africa
What u should do is see if it can do hardwired back haul then find a nearby phone jack rewire for Ethernet and hardwire the extended Wi-Fi nodes via hardwire thru the nearby phone jacks looks like a new house is it probably has cat 5 for phone wires
Just disable band steering on your asus wifi and connect to the 2.4Ghz
would 2 nest be effective...? Say one upstairs and one downstairs?
The Google mesh works without a router. Just plug in your isp cable into it
Sitting in my basement bathroom on the toilet, limping through RUclips videos on the lowest quality, frustrated and looking up wifi extender videos. 😂
you can turn of the signals from the ISP modem
Would have been mind-blowing to see the before and after signal improvement as opposed to just the after. Thanks