#MOTOBOB All these Touring bikes today look cool without the Hard Casses Saddlebag. Including this Suzuki GSX S1000 GT & thier Vstrom 1050XT, BMW R1250RT, BMW R1250 GS & BMW K16000 GT, Honda Africa Twin & Honda NT1100, Yamaha Nikken, Moto Guzzi V1050 TT & etc. These hard casses are too old & outdated for these new Touring/Adventure riders. Besides its too heavy & ugly as well. The space are not enough to accomodate all their stuff. They are just more into Luggage Rack now that can be buy in Rally Raid in UK for example. Also, attachment hooks that secure the bags well. Well known tourer around the world use this because its more efficient & easy to handle. Itchy boots & Charly Sinewan are two of a lot of people.
The KLR650 is easily the most important ADV bike of 2022. Major oversight to not include it here. While a lot of these bikes will end up as mere garage queens for weekend Starbucks runs, the KLRs will be out in the wild adventuring.
I picked up a Tiger 900 Rally. Couldn't be happier. I only wanted the bluetooth module, and picked it up. The rest of my build was aftermarket so I didn't want the Pro. Super smooth, very comfortable and gonna tour the world on it.
Norden 901 and Tiger 90 Rally Pro are at the top of the list ... offering nearly everything besides semi active, ACC, and some nice convenience features the Africa Twin AS is tempting ... with other pros and cons or keeping it way (too?) simple with the Ténéré 700
Unfortunately , like most modern bloggers & riders I feel it's sad that folk identify the BIKE as being the thing that allows you to have an adventure, rather than the JOURNEY, the people you meet, the obstacles you conquer, the cultures you witness and all for the love of being on 2 wheels..fact is you can cross a desert on a ct110 or a cg125 and probably minimising the risk of being shot & robbed for being a wealthy westerner!! The journey is the adventure and the bike ( any bike ) is the tool to do it..Big adventure bikes are there to feather your ego and burn big holes in your bank balance! Am I ranting again 😂😂cross the desert on a ct125, die in the desert on a Ducati multistrada 🙈🙈...well I was on a roll!!
Any reason you left out the Suzuki V-Strom line 🤔? I would think they are just as much “adventure bikes” as the 660 Triumph or the Ducati Pikes Peak, and just as “updated” as the Kawasaki 😉.
May be because Suzuki has fallen a sleep updating the bike. The same bike over and over for years has gotten old. He is talking about nee bikes or bikes with upgraded. Such as the new updated 2022 CB500X. The Tenere got upgraded suspension for 2022, and so on. I really don’t know why Suzuki is waiting so long. Perhaps they are not going to be upgrading it until they are done testing the new DOHC inline twin XE7 engine they have been working on to replace the v-twin. Or may be, with some luck, they’ll do a massive upgrade and finally make it more competitive with other bikes that can run cicles around the V-Strom 650. Don’t get me wrong, Even though I don’t own one, I am a fan of the V-Strom. I almost bought one last year but the “same old bike” the super heavy feeling made me decide take a few days to think about it and in that time I was extremely lucky and walked in a Yamaha dealer where they had just gotten in a T7 and I bought it. But I am really hoping that Suzuki does something good with the V-Strom 650. I need a second back up bike.
Love love love the Tenere. Put 9k km on mine last season (would have been more but, y’know, travel restrictions). Only major complaints were the tiny fuel tank and the seat was worse than most dirtbikes, both of which I dealt with with aftermarket add ones.
While "adventure touring", I want a *cheap* and a *light* bike - to not attract thieves and to pick it up from multiple falls. The Honda CB500X is about as pricey and heavy as I'd go, and bikes by Royal Enfield and Benelli are in the running, although the beak on the Benellis would have to be removed.
Cheap or light, pick one. Cheap bikes are made with steel and solid parts. Light bikes require lots of RnD and more tooling in the factory to remove material from parts and aluminum that needs a lot of physics work to match the strength of steel by clever designs. My issue is that even expensive bikes aren't light, they're just adding in more... Stuff. I would pay more for a lighter engine, disk brakes, frame etc.
@@AarPlays - I also would pay more for a lighter bike - if it were significantly lighter without sacrificing strength and/or repairability. Until then, to get "lightness", I'll settle for low power and a single cylinder.
I used to have a CB500X and the new 2022 model looks like the best one yet. I can definitely recommend it. If you want to go lighter then there's always the CRF300L which is more capable off-road than the CB500X which is more capable on highways.
@@DanTube2010 - I think for Third World riding, Itchy Boots got it right - CB300L. (Except for the dirt bike beak.) Practically speaking, to accomodate highway riding in the U.S., I'd go for a 500cc Himalayan or a Ténéré 400.
I agree… I grabbed a ‘21 CB500x for multi day excursions on dirt, gravel, and forest service roads in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont. I assume the T7 would be better on single track or super technical trail riding but otherwise the CB500x is more than capable and 40% of the cost. (And that’s including add-ons like crash bars, barkbusters, center stand, bash plate, luggage, etc) It’s a nice commuter too. I put about 3000mi on the bike last summer and it’s decent. It’s not the best but it’s damn good for the price and it’s as reliable as you could ever ask for.
For me the AT is almost the perfect bike. Just the shaft drive is missing, then it would truly be the best of all. I would glady pay extra to have that, but it's just not there, yet Good video, great comments. Looking forward to the Tiger 1200 review
Thought about most of these and bought the R1250 GSA anyway. It’s a great travel partner, it’s accessories are many and high quality and it holds its value. Of all these, the GSA is possibly the only one that everyone should own at least once.
In Brazil at least had always been like this. We even have a name for the movement: uncle's bike. Lol And believe me, is not bullying. Because we also say this "uncles" are the smartest and also the girl's favorites on the road, because of the confort of their bikes. :)
Hoping for a 490 adventure r. would be the perfect balance of power and weight. highway speed capable and comfortably and low end grunting through muddy single track.
MotoBob, I just think that an adv bike is one you can go on an overnight camping trip on. I don’t see myself taking the Pikes Peak, which is a beautiful bike, on such a trip. Maybe replace that one with the Vstroms, Versys, and KLR.
Looking towards the Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer myself. Shaft drive triple with rear-facing radar are all pretty good features for me. Demo'ed a Tiger 900 so, that 1200 motor should be a real winner.
I'm doubting between the Ducati Desert X and the Husqvarna Norden 901. I'm really drawn to the low-slung tanks in that Norden and until I saw the Desert X I thought it was the best looking adventure bike out there. Prices are still not really available here in the Netherlands but I've seen listings which place the 2 only 1K apart. So yeah, this will be a photo finish!
Most important to me (186cm and 90kg) for an enduro/adventure bike is weight, and then HP/Tq ratio. Teneree and Touareg are with 412lbs both low on dry weight, but with 72/68 Hp/Tq the Teneree loses from the 80/70 Hp/Tq of the Aprillia. The Tiger 900 and the 890 KTM are still below the magic 200kg mark and excelent bikes, thou a bit pricy. The Norden is good on Hp, but is already a bit on the heavy side for hard offroad work. Same goes for all bikes over 440lbs like the Ducati X, the MV Augusta. Those tend more to adventure on road just like the Tiger 1200 and the GS 1250. So, depending where I wanted to go, probably for the low priced Touareg that has a bit mor Hp/Tq and tech then the Teneree. And when i have more $ to spend, the KTM 890 adv. When more on road "adventuring"/ touring, and money no objection, it would be the Tiger 1200 exp. But, still no bike comes close to my old 2005 BMW HP2 enduro 😁
Agree. The HP2 (or 3 then??) simply with updated components and maybe added electronics (for those who want them, similar to the option on the 750GS) and would have a killer bike. Especially, since the only rival in that class would be the V85 from Moto Guzzi! I'm really hoping to see more shaft drive options in the middle class. I neither need nor want 130+ HP ...
I own .. a ktm 950 super enduro 2008 also a ktm 1290 2019 superAdv. R and I hope to see a new super enduro in the near future! But right now the only one that moves me the ground under my feet is way ahead the new Ducati 950* DesertX!! For now!! Hehehehehe
I don't understand your logic on the Tiger. You discounted the Toureg and Tenere but then went for a complete compromise. If you want a big heavy comfy tarmac touring bike why not go for an FJR.
On the subject of alternative clutch transmissions, don’t forget the MV Turismo Veloce has been offered with a Rekluse clutch and they’ve followed that up with a fully automatic version. More of a tall, very sporty tourer like the Multistrada or the Tracer 9GT than an Adventure bike with off road pretensions, obviously.
If Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak can make it into this list as an adventure bike, why not the Moto Guzzi v100? And that MV Augusta 9.5 sounds rather heavy with a dry weight of 220 kg compared to its direct competition. Could that be the claimed wet weight instead?
I live and ride in South Africa, in limpopo province a true paradise for off-road adventure riding. Having been a Suzuki dealer for many years in the USA and knowing Suzuki quality and reliability one must not confuse what is good for Europe or the USA as being suitable for Africa. My stable of bikes varies from a Suzuki drz400e, yamaha xt660z to two dl650 vstroms to a bmw r1200 gs. In summary in ten years of riding over 270.000 kilometers combined mileage and four African countries 60% dirt. My one bmw has cost me more inrepairs and breakdowns including a dropped exhaust valve than all of my other five bikes all combined. Please remember that when riding in Southern Africa one can often be Over one thousand kilometers from a bike shop. The Suzukis and yamaha have never left me stranded, the worst a badly damaged tyre. On long trips I always my vstroms if much scenery or off road use my yamaha. Hope that this info helps your choice of bikes and come and ride beautiful Africa. Pepe
I'm in the market for a big adventure bike, and I think I'm leaning towards the Africa Twin Adv Sport, thinking of the reliability factor. I'm planning to ride from Toronto to Alaska and down to Costa Rica, and I can only imagine the feels when your new Ducati or Guzzi blows a fitting in some out of the way town... I also like the look and spec of the Triumph 900, so it's going to come down to the test ride. I consider the 1250 GS a worthy option, but I already have a BMW R1100S so I'd prefer to spread the love around.
Poor old Honda x-adv never gets included in the adventure bike lists. Probably a bit heavy to be in this category but I think it would be great for adventure touring. Some lovely bikes in this feature.
Very few people who will buy these bikes will ever ride them on anything other than a gravel track.the x-adv is way more dependable than all of these bikes but bikers see them as scooters and therefore they get very little love even tho it's a fantastic machine and more than capable off road but a Honda 300 Rallye would be far more capable off road than any of these bikes just not so much fun on it..bikers are a fickle bunch who fall for looks performance and the dream of " adventure" rides, then resolutely stick to the tarmac to avoid dripping their pride and joy in the mud!! Just ride and enjoy
When I was looking for an ADV bike in 2020 there were 2 options unless I wanted to drive 300+ miles to try the Triumphs, Ducati's and BMW's {which were all about $3K - $5K more than I wanted to spend}. I rode both the DCT and standard Africa twin and the KTM 790 Adventure. I flat didn't like the DCT. I think it would be a disaster off road and it wasn't particularly good on the street. I liked the Honda but I actually wanted to explore off road and it was just too top heavy. The KTM was just better in every way. The one exception is the KTM has no helmet lock. Come on KTM!!! The lower CG with the tank down there is brilliant. I've got about 3,000 miles off road and about 3,500 on asphalt now with that bike. I enjoy everything about it {but the missing helmet lock thing}.
KTM1290 super adventure, great tech, awesome handling on and off road. Best engine ever. You may have guessed I love mine. Do yourself a favor and test ride one. My previous bike was a R1200GS, great bike, was going to have a new 1250, rode the 1290 KTM and couldn't do it.
@@BearBig70 Thanks for saying that. And, I truly hate to see this door opening. The Western World starting to 'accept' chinese motorcycles?! Just about everyone's most prolific adversary and allowed release of the virus through pure negligence. And, we're just patting them on the head and buying their stuff. Breaks my heart!
Didn't expect this much negativity here. Competition in a market is a good thing and you can't blame a virus on a motorcycle manufacturing company, country aside.
@@roblogic6823 Actually, I think you can. If they lost several trillion off their GDP due to their agression I think things would start to tone down a bit. Plus, let's face it, one of the main reasons they can manufacture so cheaply is due to almost no EPA-like regulations. Why isn't the Western world pounding that massive global warming initiative aversion? They and the russians are inching us closer to WWIII and we're just buying into their manufacturing base.
@@HughtubeProduction Well, that's what he meant. The "experience" of driving your KTM on a flat deck back to a dealer for some more ecu updates and electrogizo programming.
Congrats on your sponsorship with VPN! Not taking a contract though 😂 thanks for the vid. The desert x and mv are looking good. Sticking with my KTM super adventure 1290 though!
The Tiger 660 Sport's the one I'll be taking for a test ride. Did I miss a mention of the CFMoto 800MT? It's another KTM in different clothes, but the price and warranty are both interesting.
12:00 My whole thing with MV tho is service. This is an adventure bike. Think about it. You best know how to service your own bike because we have a handful of dealers and servicers across the entire united states. Personally I have to call road side service cause I'm not that capable. It keeps me from buyinginto the brand not having that ability to correct while out on the road. Does anyone else think of stuff like that? Am I crazy?
Looking for my first bike and your first 3 are the ones I’m looking at . The 500x was number 1 on my list, loads people say I would get board very quickly with . So now I’m stuck between the versys 659 or the tiger sport .. what’s your thoughts . Been to fowlers seen all 3 options . Just don’t want to get stung with a bike that I don’t like after 6 months
On a budget brought a Suzuki 1050XT on road in NZ 2022 for £8300 which was a excellent deal I know it’s not the best bike but price wise what we can afford for cash.
Previous bike, and will never give it up...Honda blackbird 1996 with many mods to lighten. Cagiva elefant before that...Only went for an adventure bike after rockslide closed road I was on and had to take the blackbird trough a farm to get around...
Almost all of these bikes are still way too heavy, and way too expensive, often because they are festooned with unnecessary "tech", gizmos, "modes" and excessive power which defeat the whole point of an adventure. What are "adventure" bikes? Apparently only those which get you and them you covered in mud or go unnecessarily fast. But whether you have a Honda Cub or a BMW GS it's only an adventure if you MAKE it one. The bike doesn't do it for you. Sadly the gullible are taken in by this marketing nonsense to spend a fortune on big, heavy, over-powered, and/or expensive bikes. They are often a liability. All you need is an inexpensive, light, uncomplicated, reliable machine, and one you can pick up without a hernia.
I understand your sentiment, but it really depends on what you want to do with the bike. I bought a liter class adventure bike because I commute all year round in all types of weather and carry a lot of stuff for work. I also love going off road, and I don't want multiple bikes - just one to do it all. There's a video of me tracking home through snow in an adventure suit with my heated gear on my loaded Harley Pan America Special. I've also taken the same bike through the swamp dozens of times, on hunting trails, through muddy fields, through the surrounding forests, and on single track. I've got a 5,000 miles trip planned this summer, that doesn't even start off road until 2,000 miles in. That's what they're designed for. So I think it really depends on what you plan to do with the bike.
I always hate it with people make sweeping statements like this and don't follow up with solid evidence or examples. Just makes it seem....fake. I love the idea of a barebones inexpensive bike I would take on an adventure and wouldn't care if I dropped it here and there. The Honda CB500 seems to fit the bill. The KLR300 also seems awesome but a 300? 😅 naaaah. What other suggestions do you have?
T7: if only it had cross-spoke wheels. It will certainly be totally reliable. CRF1100L manual. Again, if only it had cross-spoke wheels like the Sport does, which is too heavy.
Honda X adv revamp is worth putting on, its no worse off road than the cheaper models of other brands, the newer model looks lovely even if its more looks than ability but then how many actually go off road?
The relative simplicity of the T700 appeals to me, but it is quite pricey for what it is. The Tuareg and the TRK800 also have me interested, but Bang for Buck is hard to find here in Oz'. We routinely pay above the MRRP, by 10-15% and I've never heard a 'convincing' explanation as to why. Are there any 'insiders' out there who can explain this ? Cheers 👍
Excellent review, if it was my money I was spending on an adventure bike in 2022 then it would be the Desert X every time , would be interested to know if you can fit the panniers to the Desert X if you have the extra 8 Litre Reserve tank option fitted ?
The Triumph Tiger 660 for me, as I'm: 68 years old: Skinny: Not a millionaire! They'd have to offer one with cruise control (at least as an add-on otion) first though. Surely there'll be a touring-ready version at some point? You know: High screen: Panniers: Cruise control, and (maybe) tubeless wire wheels. I'd be prepared to pay another thousand or so for that.
To me, the adventure category is defined by weight. If I cannot pick it up by myself 5 times in one day, it is an "ADV style" or "ADV touring" bike. Those bikes have their markets, for sure. Just not me. I agree about the T7 vs Touareg tradeoffs. The CB500X just needs a stock model with 21/18 wheels and adjustable suspension, and they could take my money. I would pay the equivalent of £1500 more for that capability, but as is, not sufficiently off-road capable.
This is a really great video! I've seen a lot of these videos, usually made with that terrible electronic voice and crappy stock footage. But this was well scripted, great video footage and entertaining. Also it was informative. There were some bikes I wouldn't have considered and some I've never even heard of so yeah nice 👍. I love the Tenere. But it's a little on the (actually) expensive side considering what you get. Like you said very minimal tech. Although I have test ridden it and it feels exactly how you'd want a machine to feel. I just bought Kawasaki ER-6N (which is basically the sames bike as the Versys but like half the price) and I plan to make some modifications to it to bring it closer to it's cousin bike. I plan to raise the suspension giving it a high ground clearance, add a metal bash plat that covers the whole pipe area and put some thick nubby tires on her so she has a little more off road ability.
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All these Touring bikes today look cool without the Hard Casses Saddlebag. Including this Suzuki GSX S1000 GT & thier Vstrom 1050XT, BMW R1250RT, BMW R1250 GS & BMW K16000 GT, Honda Africa Twin & Honda NT1100, Yamaha Nikken, Moto Guzzi V1050 TT & etc. These hard casses are too old & outdated for these new Touring/Adventure riders. Besides its too heavy & ugly as well. The space are not enough to accomodate all their stuff.
They are just more into Luggage Rack now that can be buy in Rally Raid in UK for example. Also, attachment hooks that secure the bags well. Well known tourer around the world use this because its more efficient & easy to handle.
Itchy boots & Charly Sinewan are two of a lot of people.
The Tenere 700 is my favorite. Basic, but dependable. And, fun in all sorts of situations.
The KLR650 is easily the most important ADV bike of 2022. Major oversight to not include it here. While a lot of these bikes will end up as mere garage queens for weekend Starbucks runs, the KLRs will be out in the wild adventuring.
maybe but They mad ugly tho.
I had a KLR600 in the late 1980s. Superb bare bones thumper.
I picked up a Tiger 900 Rally. Couldn't be happier. I only wanted the bluetooth module, and picked it up. The rest of my build was aftermarket so I didn't want the Pro. Super smooth, very comfortable and gonna tour the world on it.
Norden 901 and Tiger 90 Rally Pro are at the top of the list ... offering nearly everything besides semi active, ACC, and some nice convenience features
the Africa Twin AS is tempting ... with other pros and cons
or keeping it way (too?) simple with the Ténéré 700
Unfortunately , like most modern bloggers & riders I feel it's sad that folk identify the BIKE as being the thing that allows you to have an adventure, rather than the JOURNEY, the people you meet, the obstacles you conquer, the cultures you witness and all for the love of being on 2 wheels..fact is you can cross a desert on a ct110 or a cg125 and probably minimising the risk of being shot & robbed for being a wealthy westerner!! The journey is the adventure and the bike ( any bike ) is the tool to do it..Big adventure bikes are there to feather your ego and burn big holes in your bank balance! Am I ranting again 😂😂cross the desert on a ct125, die in the desert on a Ducati multistrada 🙈🙈...well I was on a roll!!
KLR650 for the win.
Desert X looks great, just need to try it for seat height with my short legs! The downside of most adventure bikes is the tall seat height.
Any reason you left out the Suzuki V-Strom line 🤔? I would think they are just as much “adventure bikes” as the 660 Triumph or the Ducati Pikes Peak, and just as “updated” as the Kawasaki 😉.
May be because Suzuki has fallen a sleep updating the bike. The same bike over and over for years has gotten old. He is talking about nee bikes or bikes with upgraded. Such as the new updated 2022 CB500X. The Tenere got upgraded suspension for 2022, and so on.
I really don’t know why Suzuki is waiting so long. Perhaps they are not going to be upgrading it until they are done testing the new DOHC inline twin XE7 engine they have been working on to replace the v-twin.
Or may be, with some luck, they’ll do a massive upgrade and finally make it more competitive with other bikes that can run cicles around the V-Strom 650.
Don’t get me wrong, Even though I don’t own one, I am a fan of the V-Strom. I almost bought one last year but the “same old bike” the super heavy feeling made me decide take a few days to think about it and in that time I was extremely lucky and walked in a Yamaha dealer where they had just gotten in a T7 and I bought it.
But I am really hoping that Suzuki does something good with the V-Strom 650. I need a second back up bike.
Love love love the Tenere. Put 9k km on mine last season (would have been more but, y’know, travel restrictions). Only major complaints were the tiny fuel tank and the seat was worse than most dirtbikes, both of which I dealt with with aftermarket add ones.
What seats did you get ?
@@anishkrishnan3979 seat concepts
Middle weight adventure of 2021 4 me
1. Triumph tiger 900 rally pro
2. Yamaha T7
While "adventure touring", I want a *cheap* and a *light* bike - to not attract thieves and to pick it up from multiple falls.
The Honda CB500X is about as pricey and heavy as I'd go, and bikes by Royal Enfield and Benelli are in the running,
although the beak on the Benellis would have to be removed.
Cheap or light, pick one. Cheap bikes are made with steel and solid parts. Light bikes require lots of RnD and more tooling in the factory to remove material from parts and aluminum that needs a lot of physics work to match the strength of steel by clever designs.
My issue is that even expensive bikes aren't light, they're just adding in more... Stuff. I would pay more for a lighter engine, disk brakes, frame etc.
@@AarPlays - I also would pay more for a lighter bike - if it were significantly lighter without sacrificing strength and/or repairability. Until then, to get "lightness", I'll settle for low power and a single cylinder.
I used to have a CB500X and the new 2022 model looks like the best one yet. I can definitely recommend it. If you want to go lighter then there's always the CRF300L which is more capable off-road than the CB500X which is more capable on highways.
@@DanTube2010 - I think for Third World riding, Itchy Boots got it right - CB300L. (Except for the dirt bike beak.) Practically speaking, to accomodate highway riding in the U.S., I'd go for a 500cc Himalayan or a Ténéré 400.
I agree… I grabbed a ‘21 CB500x for multi day excursions on dirt, gravel, and forest service roads in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont. I assume the T7 would be better on single track or super technical trail riding but otherwise the CB500x is more than capable and 40% of the cost. (And that’s including add-ons like crash bars, barkbusters, center stand, bash plate, luggage, etc) It’s a nice commuter too. I put about 3000mi on the bike last summer and it’s decent. It’s not the best but it’s damn good for the price and it’s as reliable as you could ever ask for.
KLR 650 and DR 650- infinitely more light and affordable, to the masses and will go more places than most bikes featured.
My friend has a 2018 klr, he loves and we did a 1700km circuit and he didn’t feel too fatigued for a novice driver
For me the AT is almost the perfect bike. Just the shaft drive is missing, then it would truly be the best of all. I would glady pay extra to have that, but it's just not there, yet
Good video, great comments. Looking forward to the Tiger 1200 review
Thought about most of these and bought the R1250 GSA anyway. It’s a great travel partner, it’s accessories are many and high quality and it holds its value. Of all these, the GSA is possibly the only one that everyone should own at least once.
I would take the Multistrada V2. Love the looks with plenty of power.
Just bought a GSA delivery a week Tuesday ..can’t wait😁
I ended up with a Triumph Scrambler 1200xe. I just like it a lot.
What about the Guzzi and H--D?
Tenere 700 appears to have additional exhaust guard and a different design to bashplate. I wonder what other bits have been tweaked?
As about cb500x for the first bike, statistics says that actually more experienced bikers are buying this bike than young ones.
well actually the latest statistics say that nobody wants to buy that junk
@@adrianp7475 lol Honda is selling the shit out of that bike
In Brazil at least had always been like this.
We even have a name for the movement: uncle's bike. Lol
And believe me, is not bullying. Because we also say this "uncles" are the smartest and also the girl's favorites on the road, because of the confort of their bikes. :)
This motorcycle is awesome
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I loved the CBR500R when learning. This 500X could be a great bike for older folks that cant handle the 700Kg(sarcasm) land sleds.
Hoping for a 490 adventure r. would be the perfect balance of power and weight. highway speed capable and comfortably and low end grunting through muddy single track.
MotoBob, I just think that an adv bike is one you can go on an overnight camping trip on. I don’t see myself taking the Pikes Peak, which is a beautiful bike, on such a trip. Maybe replace that one with the Vstroms, Versys, and KLR.
Looking towards the Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer myself. Shaft drive triple with rear-facing radar are all pretty good features for me. Demo'ed a Tiger 900 so, that 1200 motor should be a real winner.
I'm doubting between the Ducati Desert X and the Husqvarna Norden 901. I'm really drawn to the low-slung tanks in that Norden and until I saw the Desert X I thought it was the best looking adventure bike out there. Prices are still not really available here in the Netherlands but I've seen listings which place the 2 only 1K apart. So yeah, this will be a photo finish!
And the Ducati has extra fuel tanks around the back seat.. even cooler!
The styling of those 2 bikes is just simply amazing.
But 'sadly' I'll just have to out up with my 2018 DCT Africa Twin
Poor me
In case anyone wonders. . . I got the Desert X and I couldn't be happier! What a machine!
Great video! All I can say is 2022 will be the year of test rides!
MY GOD how'd I just discover this channel tonight?! Your voice is smoother than butter, I love it!
I want them all,,,
But really the Norden vs Desert X
Norden 901, and I cannot wait until the 501 comes out!
drove 46000km with my Honda CB500x, I now have the Tenere 700 and it's perfect.
What about H.D.?
Why no mention of the HD Pan American? Or the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro/Rally Pro?
Good God, you're on a roll. Great channel/finger on the pulse.
Keep on keepin' on. Toast to 2022 & you.🥂
Thoughts on 2022 KTM adventure 390? It's more of a road bike but can do simple trails, very light, agile.
The 390 Adventure is more of an off roader than most bikes in this video.
Most important to me (186cm and 90kg) for an enduro/adventure bike is weight, and then HP/Tq ratio.
Teneree and Touareg are with 412lbs both low on dry weight, but with 72/68 Hp/Tq the Teneree loses from the 80/70 Hp/Tq of the Aprillia.
The Tiger 900 and the 890 KTM are still below the magic 200kg mark and excelent bikes, thou a bit pricy.
The Norden is good on Hp, but is already a bit on the heavy side for hard offroad work.
Same goes for all bikes over 440lbs like the Ducati X, the MV Augusta. Those tend more to adventure on road just like the Tiger 1200 and the GS 1250.
So, depending where I wanted to go, probably for the low priced Touareg that has a bit mor Hp/Tq and tech then the Teneree. And when i have more $ to spend, the KTM 890 adv.
When more on road "adventuring"/ touring, and money no objection, it would be the Tiger 1200 exp.
But, still no bike comes close to my old 2005 BMW HP2 enduro 😁
Agree. The HP2 (or 3 then??) simply with updated components and maybe added electronics (for those who want them, similar to the option on the 750GS) and would have a killer bike. Especially, since the only rival in that class would be the V85 from Moto Guzzi!
I'm really hoping to see more shaft drive options in the middle class. I neither need nor want 130+ HP ...
I own .. a ktm 950 super enduro 2008 also a ktm 1290 2019 superAdv. R and I hope to see a new super enduro in the near future! But right now the only one that moves me the ground under my feet is way ahead the new Ducati 950* DesertX!! For now!! Hehehehehe
I don't understand your logic on the Tiger. You discounted the Toureg and Tenere but then went for a complete compromise. If you want a big heavy comfy tarmac touring bike why not go for an FJR.
Thank you for the wonderful video. I am waiting for the Tuareg 660. Order placed. Delivery in Feb. Cant wait to get my hands on that beauty!
Nice summary review, unlike anything I've seen anywhere. Thanks. My vote is for the Husky.
On the subject of alternative clutch transmissions, don’t forget the MV Turismo Veloce has been offered with a Rekluse clutch and they’ve followed that up with a fully automatic version. More of a tall, very sporty tourer like the Multistrada or the Tracer 9GT than an Adventure bike with off road pretensions, obviously.
If Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak can make it into this list as an adventure bike, why not the Moto Guzzi v100? And that MV Augusta 9.5 sounds rather heavy with a dry weight of 220 kg compared to its direct competition. Could that be the claimed wet weight instead?
Honda is the most practical. I wish you had included the weight also. Thanks for the useful videos.
I live and ride in South Africa, in limpopo province a true paradise for off-road adventure riding. Having been a Suzuki dealer for many years in the USA and knowing Suzuki quality and reliability one must not confuse what is good for Europe or the USA as being suitable for Africa. My stable of bikes varies from a Suzuki drz400e, yamaha xt660z to two dl650 vstroms to a bmw r1200 gs. In summary in ten years of riding over 270.000 kilometers combined mileage and four African countries 60% dirt. My one bmw has cost me more inrepairs and breakdowns including a dropped exhaust valve than all of my other five bikes all combined. Please remember that when riding in Southern Africa one can often be Over one thousand kilometers from a bike shop. The Suzukis and yamaha have never left me stranded, the worst a badly damaged tyre. On long trips I always my vstroms if much scenery or off road use my yamaha. Hope that this info helps your choice of bikes and come and ride beautiful Africa. Pepe
No word of the Moto Guzzi V85tt adventure
Nothing on the Yamaha Super Tenere either,, owner👋.
My pick would be the 2022 AFRICA TWIN ADVENTURE SPORTS ES DCT
Money no object- the Duke Pikes Peak v4s, other than that the Yam Tenere Rally in speedblock red/white or the Husky Norden
I'm in the market for a big adventure bike, and I think I'm leaning towards the Africa Twin Adv Sport, thinking of the reliability factor. I'm planning to ride from Toronto to Alaska and down to Costa Rica, and I can only imagine the feels when your new Ducati or Guzzi blows a fitting in some out of the way town... I also like the look and spec of the Triumph 900, so it's going to come down to the test ride. I consider the 1250 GS a worthy option, but I already have a BMW R1100S so I'd prefer to spread the love around.
For your needs I’d be looking at the Yamaha Super Tenere.
The 1250 GSA nails it
Poor old Honda x-adv never gets included in the adventure bike lists. Probably a bit heavy to be in this category but I think it would be great for adventure touring. Some lovely bikes in this feature.
Very few people who will buy these bikes will ever ride them on anything other than a gravel track.the x-adv is way more dependable than all of these bikes but bikers see them as scooters and therefore they get very little love even tho it's a fantastic machine and more than capable off road but a Honda 300 Rallye would be far more capable off road than any of these bikes just not so much fun on it..bikers are a fickle bunch who fall for looks performance and the dream of " adventure" rides, then resolutely stick to the tarmac to avoid dripping their pride and joy in the mud!! Just ride and enjoy
Any dates yet for when you will get to test & review the Tiger 1200 rally explorer? And possibly the Ducati V2?
They’re saying March for the Tiger 1200 I think. Shame it’s a few months away but it’s not the best time of year for a launch at the moment.
My pick is the desert X, should arrive in the next month!
When I was looking for an ADV bike in 2020 there were 2 options unless I wanted to drive 300+ miles to try the Triumphs, Ducati's and BMW's {which were all about $3K - $5K more than I wanted to spend}. I rode both the DCT and standard Africa twin and the KTM 790 Adventure. I flat didn't like the DCT. I think it would be a disaster off road and it wasn't particularly good on the street. I liked the Honda but I actually wanted to explore off road and it was just too top heavy. The KTM was just better in every way. The one exception is the KTM has no helmet lock. Come on KTM!!! The lower CG with the tank down there is brilliant. I've got about 3,000 miles off road and about 3,500 on asphalt now with that bike. I enjoy everything about it {but the missing helmet lock thing}.
We could buy KTM 390 adventure with 3100 pounds in India, which is one of the best for the price imo
The extent of my need for an ADV would be handled by a Honda Trail 125 so....
Multistrada V4 pikes peak is such a dream bike.
But I'm really curious about that big Triumph ADV and the ducati Desert X too.
KTM1290 super adventure, great tech, awesome handling on and off road. Best engine ever. You may have guessed I love mine. Do yourself a favor and test ride one. My previous bike was a R1200GS, great bike, was going to have a new 1250, rode the 1290 KTM and couldn't do it.
Bob, why no mention of the CFMoto MT800?
i'd like to know your take on Moto Morini ADV available on the market
Isn't the KLR an iconic adventure bike ?
You should look at the cfmoto 800 Mt, its basically a Chinese version of the ktm 790 adv built in the same factory using the same engine.
Sooo... they stole the blueprints and the process. No thanks, F the Jchi-nese!
No thanks. They can keep their cheaper knock offs and the “China virus”.
@@BearBig70 Thanks for saying that. And, I truly hate to see this door opening. The Western World starting to 'accept' chinese motorcycles?! Just about everyone's most prolific adversary and allowed release of the virus through pure negligence. And, we're just patting them on the head and buying their stuff. Breaks my heart!
Didn't expect this much negativity here. Competition in a market is a good thing and you can't blame a virus on a motorcycle manufacturing company, country aside.
@@roblogic6823 Actually, I think you can. If they lost several trillion off their GDP due to their agression I think things would start to tone down a bit. Plus, let's face it, one of the main reasons they can manufacture so cheaply is due to almost no EPA-like regulations. Why isn't the Western world pounding that massive global warming initiative aversion? They and the russians are inching us closer to WWIII and we're just buying into their manufacturing base.
For me the winner is Aprilia's Tuareg 660 - if you don't believe me, juste test ride it. You'll finish like me, with 660 in your garage :)
For me, the Honda 300 L Rally, but what I would really like is a 450 L Rally with a better service interval & < 350 lbs.
None of them will compete with the driving experience the KTM Adventure bikes give you, absolutely amazing
O yeah
@@Noregret348 , O yeah
None of them compete with the brake down experience the KTM Adventure bikes give you, absolutely shite
@@HughtubeProduction Well, that's what he meant. The "experience" of driving your KTM on a flat deck back to a dealer for some more ecu updates and electrogizo programming.
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Congrats on your sponsorship with VPN! Not taking a contract though 😂 thanks for the vid. The desert x and mv are looking good. Sticking with my KTM super adventure 1290 though!
The Tiger 660 Sport's the one I'll be taking for a test ride. Did I miss a mention of the CFMoto 800MT? It's another KTM in different clothes, but the price and warranty are both interesting.
The yamaha would be my first choice but that desert X.
For me.... GS 1250 for sure, best option
Happy New Year MB! Great work & content this year! Bigger & bigger next!✅
Personaly i love ADV bikes!! Im waiting for the new transalp 750cc,
Very good comparison. Please talk about the chinese CFmoto and Kove, and about the HD Panamerica.
12:00 My whole thing with MV tho is service. This is an adventure bike. Think about it. You best know how to service your own bike because we have a handful of dealers and servicers across the entire united states. Personally I have to call road side service cause I'm not that capable. It keeps me from buyinginto the brand not having that ability to correct while out on the road. Does anyone else think of stuff like that? Am I crazy?
You are not Crazy sir.
💯 Valid concern 💯
Dealer network is weak. And expensive,,
Local Dealer(Las Vegas area) is $148hr labor. Backed up for weeks+.
With MV's excellent recent track record of lightweight triples, I'm surprised they would release something 220kg dry
I am getting a new computer and I am going to try the NorvdVPN for my computer protection. Thanks for the link and of course your videos!
Looking for my first bike and your first 3 are the ones I’m looking at . The 500x was number 1 on my list, loads people say I would get board very quickly with . So now I’m stuck between the versys 659 or the tiger sport .. what’s your thoughts . Been to fowlers seen all 3 options . Just don’t want to get stung with a bike that I don’t like after 6 months
What about the Ducati Hypermotard with knobbies?
I wanted the T7 but the Aprilia with more tech sounds cool too, I love tech. I just wonder if its as good of a bike...
What’s your opinion about the new CFmoto 800 Mt I’m really interested about value for money
On a budget brought a Suzuki 1050XT on road in NZ 2022 for £8300 which was a excellent deal I know it’s not the best bike but price wise what we can afford for cash.
Just waiting for my Tiger 1200 GT Explorer to be delivered. It will be replacing a 2015 Versys 1000.
Ive wanted a Africa Twin since the mid 80's. But sadly im not 6'3" tall which seems to be the only size they make adv bikes for.
Previous bike, and will never give it up...Honda blackbird 1996 with many mods to lighten. Cagiva elefant before that...Only went for an adventure bike after rockslide closed road I was on and had to take the blackbird trough a farm to get around...
I come from an XR400, a 1999 Blackbird and now an Africa Twin.... (still have all the bikes)
Almost all of these bikes are still way too heavy, and way too expensive, often because they are festooned with unnecessary "tech", gizmos, "modes" and excessive power which defeat the whole point of an adventure. What are "adventure" bikes? Apparently only those which get you and them you covered in mud or go unnecessarily fast. But whether you have a Honda Cub or a BMW GS it's only an adventure if you MAKE it one. The bike doesn't do it for you. Sadly the gullible are taken in by this marketing nonsense to spend a fortune on big, heavy, over-powered, and/or expensive bikes. They are often a liability. All you need is an inexpensive, light, uncomplicated, reliable machine, and one you can pick up without a hernia.
I understand your sentiment, but it really depends on what you want to do with the bike. I bought a liter class adventure bike because I commute all year round in all types of weather and carry a lot of stuff for work. I also love going off road, and I don't want multiple bikes - just one to do it all. There's a video of me tracking home through snow in an adventure suit with my heated gear on my loaded Harley Pan America Special. I've also taken the same bike through the swamp dozens of times, on hunting trails, through muddy fields, through the surrounding forests, and on single track. I've got a 5,000 miles trip planned this summer, that doesn't even start off road until 2,000 miles in. That's what they're designed for. So I think it really depends on what you plan to do with the bike.
I think there is motocross bikes and adventure bikes just there are SUVs and Off-road cars
There are similarities but it is certainly different
What bike do you think is a good adventure bike at a reasonable price?
I always hate it with people make sweeping statements like this and don't follow up with solid evidence or examples. Just makes it seem....fake.
I love the idea of a barebones inexpensive bike I would take on an adventure and wouldn't care if I dropped it here and there. The Honda CB500 seems to fit the bill.
The KLR300 also seems awesome but a 300? 😅 naaaah.
What other suggestions do you have?
Compliments of the season bob
CB 500X and Kawasaki Versy are clear winners.😎
T7: if only it had cross-spoke wheels. It will certainly be totally reliable. CRF1100L manual. Again, if only it had cross-spoke wheels like the Sport does, which is too heavy.
Can't wait for the Benelli TRK 800 coming 2nd half of 2022.
From this list, for me, the mts v2s black with red wheels!!!
Can the Honda NC750x be on this list?
Honda X adv revamp is worth putting on, its no worse off road than the cheaper models of other brands, the newer model looks lovely even if its more looks than ability but then how many actually go off road?
The relative simplicity of the T700 appeals to me, but it is quite pricey for what it is. The Tuareg and the TRK800 also have me interested, but Bang for Buck is hard to find here in Oz'. We routinely pay above the MRRP, by 10-15% and I've never heard a 'convincing' explanation as to why. Are there any 'insiders' out there who can explain this ?
Cheers 👍
I wish there were places around me to ride like in this video!
Excellent review, if it was my money I was spending on an adventure bike in 2022 then it would be the Desert X every time , would be interested to know if you can fit the panniers to the Desert X if you have the extra 8 Litre Reserve tank option fitted ?
surprised the KTM 690/Husky 701 Enduro wasn't included.
The video title should be ADV bikes suited to European secondary roads, with a few exceptions. Bang for buck ; Honda 550 and the Toerag 660.
The Norden looks even better in person.
I have the Tiger 900 Rally Pro...I'm good for awhile.
happy new year bob!
The Triumph Tiger 660 for me, as I'm: 68 years old: Skinny: Not a millionaire! They'd have to offer one with cruise control (at least as an add-on otion) first though. Surely there'll be a touring-ready version at some point? You know: High screen: Panniers: Cruise control, and (maybe) tubeless wire wheels. I'd be prepared to pay another thousand or so for that.
Which one would I select ? None of them, they’re all too tall !
What about the cf650 adventura?
To me, the adventure category is defined by weight. If I cannot pick it up by myself 5 times in one day, it is an "ADV style" or "ADV touring" bike. Those bikes have their markets, for sure. Just not me.
I agree about the T7 vs Touareg tradeoffs.
The CB500X just needs a stock model with 21/18 wheels and adjustable suspension, and they could take my money. I would pay the equivalent of £1500 more for that capability, but as is, not sufficiently off-road capable.
This is a really great video!
I've seen a lot of these videos, usually made with that terrible electronic voice and crappy stock footage. But this was well scripted, great video footage and entertaining.
Also it was informative. There were some bikes I wouldn't have considered and some I've never even heard of so yeah nice 👍.
I love the Tenere. But it's a little on the (actually) expensive side considering what you get. Like you said very minimal tech. Although I have test ridden it and it feels exactly how you'd want a machine to feel.
I just bought Kawasaki ER-6N (which is basically the sames bike as the Versys but like half the price) and I plan to make some modifications to it to bring it closer to it's cousin bike.
I plan to raise the suspension giving it a high ground clearance, add a metal bash plat that covers the whole pipe area and put some thick nubby tires on her so she has a little more off road ability.
V85TT?
They all look good 👍 but the tenere 700 is going to be difficult to move from the top sellers position.