What Happened To Winamp?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video, we explore the captivating history of Winamp, the iconic media player that dominated the late '90s and early 2000s. Discover its revolutionary features, the challenges it faced, and its enduring legacy. Join us as we uncover the reasons behind Winamp's rise and fall, and its recent resurgence in the age of nostalgia. Whether you're a fan or curious about its fate, this video provides a fascinating journey through the rise and fall of Winamp.
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The huge appeal point of Winamp was the simple lightweight utility of playing MP3s without issue. On an archaic 33MHz laptop with 16MB ram, Winamp was the only player that could handle MP3s without stuttering or any kind of problem. It was a nod to good efficient code that is just a myth in this age. From my quad core ARM powered phone I can't even load a stream without stutters every other second. All the wrapper apps are garbage but MP3s still work fine. We need Winamp era developers to come back and fix all of this for us.
A lot of the time it's not the fault of the devs, rather some higher ups who want exact real time telemetry for every breath the user takes.
@@mathealgou Nah it is the developers. Modern day programmers suck.
@@TheStolenBattenberg is it a decrease in education? (among programmers) I remember coding as being an university level study. (in the 80s, 90s and earlier) Now you have IT studies 'software developer' that are 2 levels below university. (I don;t know the correct name for that in anglo-saxon terms) I don;t want to belittle those people, they do the best job they can within their capacities, but they are not as smart as academic level students
That's not stuttering on on modern hardware, that's attempt to play adverts.
@@Blackadder75 I'm not too sure. I only finished college myself in 2016 (that's UK college, ages 16/17 - 18/19). College education for me was boring and not very educational. The extent of programming they covered was making calculators in Python. I'd taught myself more in the years prior since I started programming when I was roughly 10 or so, because I enjoyed it instead of there being any financial incentive.
I think the real problem is that modern programmers strive to make code as human readable as possible, and disregard any good optimization techniques in favour of that readability. Human readability should not be the goal - that's what comments are for.
On RUclips you also see videos advocating bad programming practices all the time; an example would be explaining that you should avoid nesting by expanding something that could be one method into many, many individual methods - this causes all current variables stored in registers to be pushed on to the stack for each method deep you go, which also has to be restored at each exit point of the method... Another example is telling you not to use else/if or goto even when they're completely appropriate for the situation.
tl;dr? Modern programmers suck because they suck. Academics or otherwise.
"Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass!"
Who the hell used itunes!? It was a punchline before being forgotten.
I used it because I had an ipod. It wasn't the best, but it was there and would play my purchased music.
@@KrisRyanStallard Had an Ipod touch but ITunes was sooo baaaaaad.
@@weltenkrank7807 apparently younger me didn't think it was unusably bad 🤷🏼♂️😂
Honestly, it was either that or Windows Media Player
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I still use winamp. The best player of all times.
I use the classic skin, but I remember customization being a huge thing back in 2000s. People made all sorts of weird themes for it. From simple image overlays to very complex themes where buttons were repositioned and the window could be circular or something like that.
The only problem I have is
I'm running on a 4K TV.
Apparently there is no way to adjust the resolution of the player. Is quite small.
But, still the best player
@BundesengelMichael2 You could try Wacup. It's a community supported version of winamp, which has a lot of bug fixes and allows resizing of the original themes.
@@BundesengelMichael2 winamp is for music basically, and does it's job great; For video, just use VLC or mpc
Oh and its best feature actually is the fact that it's modular. You can move windows however you like and they stick like magnets when you put them close enough.
Dead? Wtf?! Winamp is the only consistently working music player I know of. And it's so easy to use. Nothing happened to it. You can't perfect perfection.
AIMP is far supperior.
Huh? AIMP and foobar2000 exist.
foobar2000.....
Exactly!
Still have it. Since 2007
I still use it literally every day and have done since the late 90s. It's far less intrusive software than any alternatives I'm aware of. I tried many alternatives but just kept coming back to its well designed interface. It's really easy to use most of the time as well as being extremely customisable. I still love that you can hide the docked window anywhere and hover the mouse over it to bring it up. It also respects your file system and computer's resources far more than the alternatives. And yes you can rip CDs directly from it too if you want to.
By the way, about iTunes you say "It could identify CDs and copy songs from them in just a couple of clicks". Winamp could (and still can) also do this. It still contacts CDDB servers, downloads Cd, artist, track names, etc, adds them to ID3 and ID3v2 tags and rips the file. Can't get much easier than that. I can't say for sure when CD ripping was added to WinAmp, but I'm quite sure it was very early on, and probably before iTunes existed.
iTunes (and even Windows Media Player) became more popular, not because they were better, but because they were promoted as the only option and/or came preinstalled on devices by worldwide companies.
I'm pretty sure CD ripping originally came as a plugin then incorporated into version 3? My memory is pretty fuzzy though.
do you know how the visualization works? i want it randomly but it wont work and i found no tutorial on that X(
Winamp and foobar2000 are still kickin. As a person who wanted to listen thousands of songs in the time when spotify didn't exist, you had to do your digging (pirating) and cd rippin to find the good stuff and usually it was more fulfilling bc you did your own searching and share your new found music to your friends and share the files, no algorithms suggesting you curated trending music whatsoever. There's still so much music you can't find on any streaming and thats when good ol' mp3-files come handy once again 😎
What happened? No mentions of all the skinning option winamp has. One was able theme your audio player(winamp in this case) to match or complement your desktop layout.
Fun fact: They also made DOSAmp, for DOS, obviously. It didn't have all the fancy features of Winamp, no playlists, no visualizers, etc. But hey, it could play MP3s straight from DOS!
Still using Winamp 5 in 2023 as my main Mp3 player, because it's still the best player. iTunes was crap from day one and still is, because it forced you to use its library
I've used Winamp for decades and still do today (v 5.666 on Windows 11). I've tried all sorts of other apps but to this day not one of them comes close to being as good as Winamp. The closest I have come to regularly using another music player has been with Mixxx but that one doesn't work that well and I got tired of battling the bugs so I went back to Winamp. BTW - it's pronounced "ray - dee - AH - nuh - mee" not radio-No-me. They pretty much obliterated Winamp IMO... but I haven't adopted the newer versions so I could be totally wrong about that by now.
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I moved from Winamp to AIMP which is kind of a Winamp clone.
Didn't think Winamp was still around.
i use winamp with a bunch of plugins, making it effectively aimp without its build in extra sound processing.
I started using Winamp and never stopped. It really whips the llama's ass.
I've never met anyone who used iTunes as a music player, only ever heard bad things about that software. Winamp was still widely used until the mid 2000's, then it started to lose popularity to a variety of alternatives and clones.
I used Winamp until the late 2000's, then switched to open source alternatives for a few years, I really liked one called Clementine but it stopped being updated at some point. Nowadays I just use VLC for everything, it works well in every device I own and can play almost anything I throw at it.
it s a pain to make playlists with VLC. I want to switch back to winamp.
I remember using WinAmp as a kid after my father gave me many MP3s of Rammstein he'd nabbed from either a torrent or the pirate bay. I still remember loving Haifish.
At the time, Winamp really did whip the llama's ass.
Always used Winamp, and I still use it to this day, fast, light, ergonomic, what do I need more !
I remember I’ve been ripping mp3 tracks off many different CDs my mom was buying. I don’t remember how I had the Winamp on my PC, but that music player was really something unforgettable.
Then, it was AIMP and now I’m just using Win 11’s integrated media player on my PC. On my Phone, my daily driver is RUclips Music, where I spend most of the time listening to music outside.
I still use it to export music into wav files from format that's almost unplayable anywhere. You can think of it as the VLC of music
And it seems that Winamp even got yet another competitor called Foobar2000
You can also use Winamp to "export" (disc write) audio in wav files from YT videos dlded in mp4 format. Just sayin'
This story makes the most sense from American perspective where Apple's iPod really got popular. In many other countries, however (like Poland where I live) it wasn't exactly like that. Here Apple's product were never widely adopted due to their huge prices for local customers and sometimes lack of availability for certain paid services. Hence, instead of iPods, people used mobile MP3 players (like the small sticks you copied files onto) or simply early Nokia or Sony Ericsson cell phones with similar functionality. Downloading and ripping MP3s was thus still a thing in the late 2000s and early 2010s, so was Winamp and similar software (like AIMP or Foobar). What really phased them out here was Spotify and RUclips that completely changed the way people listened to digital music.
Winamp was life changing‼️ it was so customizable. The skins were off the chain! Everybody used to come over to the pad to burn CDs and they always used Winamp to convert the files. GREAT TIMES👍🏽
I have really good memories of Winamp, I used it a lot in my youth in 2000-2011! :) I also used Windows messenger a lot. Technology has advanced tremendously and nowadays it's actually really convenient when you can just stream the music you want on Tidal without having to manually download it from somewhere, etc.
i still use it, listen to internet radio with it to this day, mostly just synthwave stations at this point though.
Winapm still exist It's now a music distributing company a radio website and other stuff on their new website and yeah for those of you don't know that you can distribute music through them
Oh i still use old 5.8 version of Winamp, works fine. There is no other player i ever wanted. Heck i use Winamp in all its versions from 2002.
Today I learned there was a Winamp pro.
I miss winamp
im actually still using it to this day and I still think its one of the best mp3 players to ever exist
I STILL use Winamp. Best player ever for windows, next to VLC.
I still use Winamp. I'm on version 5.9.1
Where can u download Winamp from ?
still use winamp daily and will continue until something comparable is available
Gold old days! I can still remember what I was doing back then while watching this video and typing this comment. 😊
very impressive video. I really love winamp, just downloaded latest version and ready to give it a spin.
How did you like it?
i still use it. i don't like my favourite songs disappearing from my spotify playlists because of some licensing bs
I still use Winamp bc it doesn’t give me ads every 2 seconds.
So. Giving away my age: I use Winamp as my music collection player at home. I'm 54 years old. I still run a high powered sound system like many of my fossil generation. 8 strategically placed 8 inch ceiling speakers powered by a previous generation Pioneer digital receiver and 2 10 inch active subs (Klipsch and Polk Audio, accompanied by a 75 inch tv centrally mounted and connected to my desk top computer shaking the house with my dusty collection. Not audiophile material. Good! Don't need to be pretentious. It sounds amazing enough and makes me happy. Especially with rum and cola in hand.
Still use Winamp today: very lightweight, lots of audio options, and MP3s are extremely customisable.
Apparently, y’all haven’t SEARCHED for the new edition. IT IS OUT THERE.
Literally never stopped using it lol
I remember finally registering WinAMP to be a good shareware citizen...
And then the very next week, it went free for all... ;-) So, er... You're welcome? ;-)
I still use winamp on my pc, i have music downloaded and its a nice lightweight music player
I used to use Winamp on my psp to tune into SiriusXM radio stations back in the day. I always hated the FM/AM Radio stations we use day to day, because I wanted music, not talking about shit that didn't matter to me. Also, there really wasn't a metal FM station anywhere near me, and Winamp gave me that. Good times to be had with Winamp. I wonder if I can tune into SiriusXM through Winamp again, it's how the little me found a lot of good bands.
I still use it... I like the layout and simplicity.
I don't stream music, only buy.
the reality is that the music sounds exceptional, and it was FREE, the reason for its disappearance is the gratuity, but that, in terms of sound quality, no platform or audio player compares
I love WinAmp! Have used it since last century!
6 minutes an no mention of Nullsoft's Installer system. An installer system that was made to distribute Winamp and that is still in use today, with the installer interface that everyone using Windows knows.
also no mention of REAPER, made by the creator of Winamp ^ ^
Still use version 3 daily. It really does kick the llamas ass.
i still use winamp.
with the huge load of still updated and made plugins & skins it cintinously keeps up with modern players.
my setup:
-winamp 5.666
- winamp essentials
- wma decoder
- bass library
- madlib mp3 decoder
- dynamic library
- wasapi output
- thimeo stereotool dsp
- victhor classic modern skin
Around 2000 I was pleasantly surprised when I found Reaper, Justin Frankel winamp creator had created a DAW. It was lightweight and cheap/free.
My first music software was iTunes which worked for me well until I dumped all apple products and services long time ago. Groove was good until it was gone, and I felt lost since, so I am glad to have learned about this software I can use next :-)
Still running 5.56 from 2009. I use it daily. Thanks to the creators.
Still using Winamp since it's the only player I know of with the plug-ins necessary to play video game music files (.spc, .psf., etc.) as they're played in-game.
Some of us still like simple-to-use an mp3 player that can transfer files and playlists to a phone. And some of us like owning the songs, especially since the streaming services are jacking up the prices if you want to avoid listening to three ads for every song. (ok, that's an exaggeration, but it feels like it)
I lied about Winamp, I've used it since I was little, but you should know that it came back this year.
I never stopped using it.
Excellent post ❤revisted May 5 2024❤ John Barnett
I still feel like we don't have a perfect music software, iTunes is a mess when it comes to UX and spotify is so garbage at some specific scenarios, stuff that should just be extremely simple, like listening to random songs from your playlists somehow seems to be hard to achieve on Spotify, not to mention that the library isn't that complete (at all, if you are into nieche genres and not just.. whatever is massively mainstream, good luck finding it on spotify) and ads in between songs is so annoying. We've come pretty far, for sure, but it can still be a LOT better.
I'm 15 years winamp user, its a best mp3 player ever existed. Now i have downloaded somewhere apk installer for android, it has original logo (in new winamp they changed it), volume is boosted, looks like bento skin ,has built in shoutcast radio and NO ADS, unfortunetly it does not have or does not work equalizer (( but it's not so critical, if anyone want it i can send installer by email, cause i dont remember where i downloaded it ((
I used WinAmp back then, to play the MP3s I downloaded from Napster. Good times.
I am not a fan of the animated font. Hard to read jumping text, I recommend using captions as they can be toggled
thanks for feedback!
Yeah, it's distracting how fast it moves. It's as if there's a little dude breakdancing at the bottom of the screen trying to take my attention away from what you're trying to teach me. I've never seen someone do this one word at a time except for those kinetic typography music videos. It's not for accessibility, since it's only there some of the time (?) so what's the purpose?
@@DeadlyTechYT Other than that great video!
Even though Winamp fell off popularity, a lot of alternatives surfaced from the innovation.
For example qmmp, XMMS, Audacious which all support Linux as well.
I still use Winamp, exclusively.
It's the only music media player I use, why pay for spotify when I can just use Winamp?
Never had a reason to switch from Winamp. Adding more features and changes is really just a waste of time for everyone involved. It plays audio, what else can you want? I use it to play my own music, random recordings, stuff that isn't on Spotify basically. Anything more and it's like strapping a rocket to a bicycle.
Winamp. For over half of my life one of the first five programs I installed on a new Windows install. Goid times 👌
Edit: And it was and still is better than iTunes. iTunes is malware you pay for... While Winamp was just an easy, media player for music, easy to use and intuitive. Just a good software.
Always wanted a Ipod Shuffle gen 4 those things were TINY.
i remember using winamp to listen to comedy streams and really early podcasts. so long ago
I guess the llama finally whipped back!!
If anything took the spot of Winamp, it's not iTunes. In the very fact, iTunes was not even close to Winamp.
It was VLC.
VLC took over the whole world and they're still right at the top. VLC media player has became *so* wide that no other media player could catch-up since then. No other media player could even come close.
Ipods were (officially) mac only for a generation or two. WIndows PCs almost never had firewire & would require an add-on card. After that hurdle there was no software support, no itunes, you had to wait for 3rd parties to reverse engineer the Ipod.
I'm pretty sure there were plugins to use transfer music onto an ipod with winamp a year before there was a windows iTunes.
The Ipod had a physical scroll wheel too. it was pretty cool & that specialized interface is still nicer & faster than what we use today to play music.
It was the cheapest way to buy the tiny multi-gig HDs they used too.
Sonique was my go to music player back in the day.
The winamp starting sound.
Winamp winamp.... It really whips the llama's ass.
You missed this part bro 😢
I have been using Winamp recently then all of a sudden the most current version of Winamp when I click on a winamp bookmark causes Winamp to crash. If I click on my music files on the PC it doesn't crash. I tried installing the iPad app of Winamp and there's no way for me to import bookmarks from the windows version.
ShoutCast, the best part of WinAMP
...and it really whips the lamas a$$...
It really whips the llama's ass! You're forgetting about milkdrop visualizer. I still use winamp.
I use Winamp 5.666 from 2013.
Its hands down the best Music Player there ever was.
I even use a "clone" of Winamp on my MP3-Smartphone (yes i have a dedicated Smartphone working only as an MP3-Player).
What's the Android Winamp clone?
@@davebulow2 It's called Poweramp. The Term Clone is only used very looseley here (as indicated by the Quotation Marks).
@@RSOFT92 Thanks 🙂
Love winamp! still use it too! have my mp3 collection and winamp works fine just fine for me. And it still really whips the llama's ass too ;) 100%
Winamp is still great to manage offline mp3s. Everyone streams now but how's that work when the internet is down? I still have a ton of mp3 files.
What do you mean what happened... We still use it...
Love winamp more than i love spotify. Doesnt stutter and stop playing on random songs, and I can make it look cool with skins.
I remember I'm using Winamp in my Symbian S60v2 phone, and I switch to TTPOD later..
I held on until VLC. I still have it installed for converting files to. wav. Real Player was just crap.
It kicked the Llamas ass. Loved the app loved the mods. Loved my dancing bear.
It is criminal that you did not remind us that winamp really whips the llama's ass XD
I remember my grandpa using winamp. when I looked it up today I saw it had AI NFTs. rip my grandpa and winamp
Still the best, from my cold dead hands.
I think the Winamp boys went on to create (or have something to do with) a popular DAW free beefy program called Reaper. I'm sure someone has the complete history somewhere...
iToons was absolutely awful for music. I didn't use it until I got an iPhone 3GS, and had no idea why I couldn't just drag / drop music to it like I had done with every other device I'd had previously (including a digital camera from before the iPod existed, that weirdly also played MP3s). I'm fairly certain many of us moved from WinAmp to VLC, and personally I still have audio files because streaming fidelity sucks.
There is a reason they did this, WINAMP became a hack tool. Not for those that uses it but by those that knows how to backdoor exploit.
Still got it and still use it.
I love winamp due to its customize skin that reminds me of the vintage home audio systems and 3rd cd players of the late 90s/early 00s. Especially technic dj skin which is my favorite.
I am 26 but growing up in the east I also know that gem
Great video! 🤙
winamp wouldnt play videos but the video player would play music. So i was required to install a program that could replace winamp and at that point it was an easy choice to drop winamp.
Moved from Winamp to Aimp.
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From the original, I updated several times but it got to versions I didn't care for. I went back to version 2.95 which is my current default mp3 player. I use it daily. I also use ACDSee 2.43 as my default image viewer.
Good luck to team behind this channel but it's clear by watching the video and reading the comments that this a case of a person hired to read the script, another person hired to over edit the video to the point of annoyance so a company could upload it and see if it sticks. We don't have a face, we don't have a name and we don't even know if the people behind this video ever used winamp. Meh.
Yeah winamp stil is great i just love the interface and back in the days winamp 2 was my first program that was small (for pc standards) and just worked really welll. I switched to aim coz i wanted to play my music when at work and i had some buffering issues but i do miss the ease of use of winamp aim tries to be too smart formy likings
Loved Winamp and the MilkToast plugin was the greatest! It really used to whip the Llama's ass!