Use Reaper's ReaVoice Effect To Create Vocal Harmonies
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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The above excerpt from the course, "Harmony Recording Awesomeness," www.homebrewau... - shows how to use ReaVoice - an effect in Reaper audio recording software - to create 2 harmony parts from audio of the melody being sung by an actual human. The results are...interesting. As we point out in the course, the best vocal harmonies are the ones sung by real people. And it's usually faster and much easier to just sing them anyway. But there is interest out there in using software to create harmonies, so Lesson 10 in the course demonstrates how to use 3 programs: ReaVoice, Vielklang Instant Harmony, and Harmony Engine EVO. To learn more about the course, or to purchase it for yourself, visit www.homebrewau...
I like the way you care to show every little thing you do and your friendly way of talking. Subbed.
Thanks! I really appreciate that:).
Any vocal recording and harmonizing software advise for a poor music student?
To be honest, I just use Reaper and sing all the harmony parts myself:-P. Reaper, which is perfect for a poor music student, since it's $65!) is how I record everything from voice-overs to full music albums (I've produced our last 5 albums using Reaper!). Don't know if you've seen this video, but I recorded the guitar and 3 of my vocals just using Reaper - ruclips.net/video/FfhKEp-GAKc/видео.html Most of the harmony-generator software programs are fairly pricey. I hope that helps!
Thanks a bunch HBA. I'll check the video. Singing all harmony parts is a bit challenging for my bass voice.
I understand. One other possibility - which I will make a video for real soon:-P - is to use Reaper's ReaTune effect to do something similar to what ReaVoice is doing, but without the MIDI and math:-P.
Change the Algorithm of the Pitch Shift Mode for a more natural effect ;)
(Soloist is the best for voices)
Thanks for mentioning that! I hadn't thought of trying it since I honestly didn't consider ReaVoice to be a serious contender in harmony generation. But I'll give it a try. Thanks again.
So how do you do this?
Project Settings. You can choose from a variety of Elastique engines.
In addition to using a different algorithm I believe you could use the formant shifting function in ReaTune to make the harmonies sound more natural.
reapitch also has formant control which you could automate for a more natural sound. technically you could automate the whole thing with reapitch if you wanted.
To minimize the chipmunks or robotic effect you could use automation envelope to change the formant of different sections. Believe me, it's very effective.
Thanks for the tip!
you're welcome!
Paul - on the track panel there is button that says "Trim" next to it. It's the "Track envelopes/Automation" button. If you click that, it will bring up a panel with all sorts of things you can control via an automation line that appears under your track. You click to raise and lower parts of that line to raise and lower whatever effect you have selected. Winston was suggesting using the Formant effect. You'll need to add ReaPitch into your track FX first. Then put a checkmark in the Formant boxes in the Automation panel. I should probably make a video about automation, huh? :-).
Home Brew Audio yes that would be cool
You have literally been my savior for the past two hours as I've been working on a new project. Thank you. Thank you so much you majestic audio man.
Wow! That's quite a compliment:). And you're welcome. Good luck with the project!!
well look at that! already learned something new from your channel. i had no idea this came with reaper. just opened it up now, works great, thank you!
You're welcome!
Great teacher. Clear and concise and bothers to highlight the items suggested, and uses arrows etc. Thanks for the extra effort you put into your videos. Helps so much
Thanks Jay!
Good one, thanks for this tip. I played with the formant options and you can perserve these from the original track to get a natural, less chipmunky pitched sound.
Pro tip: make a hotkey for insert new midi item
If you know a C chord on the piano, the intervals translate to ReaVoice (the piano G will be the 5th of whatever the audio file is, the piano E will be the third relative to the audio file, etc.). This made it seem way more complicated than it really is, but still a good lesson, as I now know how to use a new plugin... thank you!
Thanks for that. I try to make things LESS complicated. Sigh. Sorry to hear it had the opposite effect here.
I had to repeat this video tutorial 3 times because i was laughing to much with the sound of the discordant harmonies, well done , great clear concise lesson with humor. thank you
This is resurrection of an old video I know - also I have no idea if this was true back then, but at least these days you have reapitch, which has that formant shift feature you need to avoid 'chipmunks' and 'monsters' lol. You don't have the neat ability to set the harmony note with a midi signal, but you can always control the FX parameters with midi CCs. I don't see how this is more work than what you went through here. Anyone reading this in 2022 who wants to do harmonies with reapitch, try this; however many semitones you modify the pitch with reapitch, move the formant slider the same number of semitones in the opposite direction. You will get the most natural sounding harmony this way because effectively you are transposing the vocal how a real singer would - the formant frequencies remain the same across the vocal range.
Thanks! Or ReaTune. I did a video on that one here: ruclips.net/video/xwUECtQr1oM/видео.html
I just want to say, please come back to doing Reaper tutorials, your approach, character, sense of humor, the tone of your voice and your attention to detail is absolutely the best I've seen and heard.
Thanks for that awesome feedback! Rest assured I am continuing. I have one in the hopper for tomorrow, actually. My goal is now one per week, though I have been unable to post the past 2 months due to recovery from surgery.
@@HomebrewAudioRecording that's great news, well, about you continuing that is. Sorry to hear about your surgery, I'm in the same situation myself, recovering from two broken tibias from a motorcycle accident so in the meantime time I'm back in music production and recently learning video production and editing.
@@howtodostuff1244 Heal up quick!
Thanks so much for this. I would never have understood the plugin otherwise.
+credenza1 You're welcome!
This is one of the best tutorial for new user (reaper) really clear n useful explaination i've seen.. Im using Adobe Audition but this make me feel like i might work with both adobe n reaper
Thanks Gordon! that is exactly what I do - use both Audition (for editing) and Reaper for multitrack/DAW stuff.
About the chipmunk quality, it has to be said that it depends on the default pitch shift algorithm, that is a trade off between quality and CPU load. *Much* better results can be obtained simply by switching the ReaVoice algorithm to an Elastique Audio one (which is embedded in REAPER, no need to install nor buy additional stuff)...
Yeah, I wanted to say just that. Elástique should sound almost right.
+Eichro That's a good idea. I didn't [lay around with the different audio stretching settings.
THANK YOU... I had my harmony plugin on the channel with the WaveForm all the time and tried to sent the midi in... The whole of the Cockos forum couldn't tell me what I did wrong. The harmony plugin had to be in the midi channel all the time :)
I really appreciate how you teach by Circo and enlarge the item you are talking about. Much much easy to follow. Thank you . So appreciate it almost want to kiss your feet... 😁 thank you
Wow, thanks! So glad you liked that. I wanted to make my videos as easy to understand as possible, since the topic is already so hard to understand.
Thank you so much,you are a very good and kind teacher,God bless you and please maintain this warm and affectionate way of imparting knowledge at a pace common folk can follow,a big up to you 🙏👍🤘❤
You're welcome. And thanks for the kind words!
Instructions unclear, C4 detonated
if you set the center note to the key of the song, you'll have an easier time ;)
I kept waiting for him to say he was going to do that...
fantastic. just figured out how to do multiple fm sounds. reaper is nuts
Yes! It can do so many things. I have recorded like 5 full albums on it and still feel like O only scratched the surface.
to unnatural for me. I am getting reaper in 2 weeks and find your tutorials a god send thanks.
I totally agree about how unnatural it sounds - as interesting as it is. Thanks very much for your kind comment about the videos! Let me know if you have questions about Reaper when you get it. Cheers!
Excellent video! though not a harmony person your clear concise and perfect diction makes this video worthy of an Oscar. ♫♪♫♪
Wow. Thanks! That's a first 😀. New Oscars category - short internet tutorial. I like it😆.
Seems like a good time saver to work out harmony parts using MIDI before recording separate parts. In some applications the robot-like aspect would be hard to notice if the generated parts were mixed low as thickening rather than prominent harmony lines.
Totally agree. I actually do that - work out harmony parts with MIDI. It's so flexible. If a chord doesn't work, just drag a note up or down. Yeah, you COULD just do this on a piano. But It really helps to hear the parts moving all on their own, and I'm just not that good a pianist (not a pianist at all :)).
Good vid.
FYI, the Reaper stock plugins are free downloads without buying Reaper. So people can try them before getting Reaper. (But get Reaper. It's amazing.)
Thanks Michael!
Thank you sooo much!! It´s so easy now!! Sure, it might sound robotic, but, I will use it as a guide for tuning when I record the harmony voices. Also, it´s great to add some interesting effects to the voices.
You're welcome, Jorge!
I can't understand the votes down (probably some kids) It's so clearly explained. Thanks!
Thanks! Yeah, I don't understand that either. It might be less about the quality of the video and more about the subject matter - some people aren't fans of machine generated harmony. Neither am I, actually. But I wanted to show it as an option for those who might find it useful. Thanks again for your kind comment!
Even if the pitch shifting IS goofy (might be good for guitar as a cheap harmonizer) I learned how to do a send, and my brain didn't melt! Woo hoo!
Yay for unmelted brains! 😀
Nice video man, you explained it perfectly.
I know music theory, but you're method works just as wel.
good job explaining the proces in Reaper, I like the animation with highlighting the things in the video.
Thanks e-m. Yeah, sometimes in "translating" stuff, I trade some technical accuracy for what might be more immediately useful for folks who don't have training in that area. Appreciate your comment!
Reaper's ReaTune can output note changes to MIDI. You might be able to run that through a track to make the original midi, then copy the MIDI track into track 2 and start moving stuff around.
+Of Former Fame - True. It's all just so much work to do it either way, to be honest. I'd much rather just sing the harmony part(s):).
True, but using midi is a good way to experiment with harmonies until you find what you like. The lack of formant shifting in the ReaVoice plugin annoys me though. You're almost certainly going to need some, why not add it to the plugin, or the ReaTune plugin instead of a separate ReaPitch. I'd want to be able to adjust the formant on each note like you can in Melodyne or Logic.
Good point.
Theres a free plugin called "Pitch proof". by Aegean Music which creates harmonies no hassle. Even lets you manually creates harmonies by only playing the chords by MIDI to the plugin
I think it's easier to copy the audio to another track, split it up whenever there's a pitch change and then manipulate the clips pitch from the item settings (or make a custom action for semitone up/down, for extra comfort.)
+Jasper Manning Well either way is pretty work-intensive and both have the ups and downs (no pun intended:)). With the ReaVoice way, it's super easy to change a note by dragging a MIDI note up or down. But the other way can work also.
more simple
Audiotrack .;insert revoice as insert ( there a dry wet control )
Make audio track as a folder track
Create new midi track inside folder ( automatically routes midiinto thatolder ) .
If ALL you had was the orig melody, then this would be quite useful. the chipmunk effect is hard to avoid unless you use special shifters that let you muck with that especially. Autotune is scale-aware and Melodyne. Those would prob be the best short of getting the singer to do the other notes. or another singer. Interesting tut.
Agreed. Here is the video I did on using Antares Harmony Engine to do it: ruclips.net/video/ENjDrG0yinw/видео.html
That’s why I prefer use Reaper 😊💪🏼
This gave me a headache. You're right recording harmony vocals is easier, but this is good to know.
thanks - though I'm sorry about the headache.
That could be an awesome feature if Reaper actually could extract lyrics from the song and inserting it to Revoice midi track
There are MIDI programs that "sing" a la an actual choir, but they are a lot more expensive than a free Reaper VST haha
you mean things like vocaloid?
Ya, but without needing you to sing. There's one where you type some lyrics and can MIDI program notes for those words... Trying to remember what it's called, but I believe it was made by Kontakt? Or however they spell their name
that`s exactly what Vocaloid does
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocaloid
Don`t know any others
Very useful and clear explanation.Question: can I use this method to trigger a piano e.g [VST4 CV Grand piano] sample from recorded any audio?.
Thanks Martin! You can certainly use this MIDI, as in this example, to trigger a connected MIDI-capable piano. So as long as the end result is that MIDI notes are being generated, I don't see why it would't work. I hope that's what you were asking.
well actually the question is this: in Logic and Garageband I can record
a upright piano [audio,not midi] the select a soft instrument via a drop down menu and change this upright piano sound to e.g Steinway Concert Grand sound.Is Reaper able to do this?
Martin. You can do all the things you mentioned in Reaper once the MIDI is recorded. And you can record the MIDI by playing the music from an external keyboard or even playing the notes on your computer, or virtual keyboard in Reaper. But it sounds like your asking about "converting" audio to MIDI. I don't use Garage Band or Logic, so I haven't done what you're doing. But just to clarify, when you say you are recording an upright piano, is that an actual piano in your house that you are playing? And you record it into the computer via microphone(s)? If so, then those programs are doing an audio-to-MIDI conversion at some point. You CAN do that in Reaper also. Here is a link to the Reaper forum thread describing how: forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=184734&highlight=audio+to+midi I hope that helps.
this was excellent - clear and concise. subbed!
What a wonderful tutorial. I realy appreciate it. It has been very helpful.👍👏👏👏👏
So glad it helped. Thanks for the kind words!
Or you can just, you know, sing the harmony.
Yeah, for me it's much easier to sing it than to bother with finding all the intervals.
Absolutely. I think I say something like that in the video. This is more for folks who might be looking for that "vocoder" harmony sound as an effect, or for those who have trouble holding their part when they sing harmony. I know a lot of people in the last category - perfectly fine singers, but couldn't hold a harmony part to save their souls. They know who they are:).
you can use this to help you write the harmony before you sing the real thing
Sure, but if the Singer isnt present and you realize you want/need a harmony, maybe to thicken up a part this does the job.
Gear Zen real musicianship and being able to compose with the help of playing piano? *gasps*
I'm going to see if you can do this along with octive up to get closer to natural sound.
You could also Play the harmonies with a piano or synth vst for quicker editing
I'm sure you could. I am just really bad at using my keyboard to enter MIDI notes beyond a few "starter" notes usually :-P. But if you are already decent at using a keyboard to enter MIDI notes, I don't see why not.
I really get the appeal of Reaper having this function but the end product does seem unnatural. It would be best and faster to just sing and record vocal tracks over the original.
I agree. That is exactly what I do. But there are uses for things like this that people sometimes want, and often they are expensive (Harmony Engine EVO, ZPlane, etc.). This is a way to show how to do the "artificial" harmony thing for free if you have Reaper, which is insanely affordable ($60 for the personal license).
Thank you for making this
You're welcome!
Great tutorial.
Thanks Chris!
Thank you very much . You are a wondeful teacher👍👏👏👏
Thanks Alfredo!
well melodyne is the plugin for this and nothing else even remotly compares
I think with small intervals, it will work well, but when there are big jumps it just sounds awful. I assume it is just shifting the original track, so the closer the added harmonies are to the original note, the more "natural" those added harmonies will be.
Yeah, I think you're right about that. This is one of the drawbacks of the "free" method for doing this:).
Really helpful video! Didn't mind the music theory lessons lol. Subscriber gained. :)
Thanks!!
I'm looking for a choir plugin. Everyone is "waaa just sing it yourself". But I can't believe no one has made a choir plugin that uses your own voice and duplicates it with different pitches. To me, I thought it would be less stressful than it actually is. I only get like maybe 3 hours to record and its difficult to get everything I need done with just 3 hours.
Oh absolutely! Check out my video here - ruclips.net/video/ENjDrG0yinw/видео.html which shows how to do it with Harmony Engine EVO. Though there are other plugins and programs out there.
It works great , thanks for this video
You're welcome!
Thank you for replying. iam sure I will have a few questions if not lots lol
The purpose of a DAW is to control and manipulate a track. This is important because you don't need studio or human capital time and the attitude that goes behind getting something done. Just you and the computer. This is why DAW exists. The human factor is just a pita.
Great video thank you so much for sharing, i had no idea.
i tried doing this and it didnt do anything when i started to click dif notes. can someone help me out? please....
When I hit route the settings show up for a split second then automatically close... any advice?
No I don't. That's weird. Sometimes a window opens up behind the main program in Windows. Try minimizing Reaper and see if the settings window is open behind the main program window. If not, I'd try the Reaper forum - forum.cockos.com/
u could export the 4/8 bar midi of your main melody/chord, from your DAW,(FL Abelton etc) and just duplicate it across the whole ReaVoice track...
Thanks for the tip!
✨Thank you, Sir, 🙏✨
You're welcome!
@@HomebrewAudioRecording ✨🙏🏼✨
Awesome tutorial. I just think you should separate advanced reaper lessons from very basic music theory lessons. The parts where you talk about intervals were really boring.
Understood. That's good feedback. Thanks!
yeah also... you're repeating yourself like 3 times on certain topics. :/
I disagree @Home Brew audio, the part on harmony was spot on and really necessary!
Great tool for rappers!
while editing in REAPER i couldnt upload the video that i had transferred from the computer via bluetooth. the file is missing. it displayed “offline”. even the song from phone to computer too. anyone can help out?
I'm sorry that it can't automatically modulate the formant of the sound.
You could probably just add the ReaPitch effect to the track and use the Formant adjustment slider on that. But yeah, not automatic. Plus it still sounds pretty unnatural to my ears.
@homebrewaudio I got a question...if u know the root note and chords, from the beat youv'e made...and export the melody and Chords sections MIDI files from lets say FL...Can u load them on to the ReaVoice track?
I've not done that. But it is certainly worth a try. Reaper can import MIDI files easily.
Couldn't you change the Center to G4 and then select Scale Major on the midi editor so you get your intervals without too much pain.
+Rich Saculus Yes, Rich. You can do that by adding an effect onto the track (FX button) called ReaControlMIDI, which will allow you to "snap to scale." That would help, but again, takes some control away from you. All these things are tradeoffs. Thanks for mentioning that though! I could make things a bit faster if you use this method.
thanks man
If I have a MIDI file for the song I'm singing, could I use this method but simply import the MIDI files to be used by ReaVoice instead of trying to figure out the harmony pitches by ear?
Actually no, not directly. you DO need a MIDI file. But to get harmonies, you have to open the MIDI editor and drag the notes individually until they produce the harmony part you want. It's not the best or easiest way to create harmonies. But it is free:). So you COULD use your MIDI file. You'd just have to edit all the notes (dragging them). Does that answer your question?
very useful ideas!
Thanks!
"That's because C4 is set"
*boom*
Cool! Thank you!
You're welcome!
this what it feels like to attend class at Greendale Community College...Go Human Beings!
I m a noob... how do u get reaper to record the harmony on the midi track rather than the external input? Thanks!
After you use that external mic to record the first vocal part (usually the melody), you use that audio (the first recording) to create the harmony on the 2nd track. Check out the video at time mark 1:57. That shows you how to "feed" the audio from track one down to track two so that the MIDI notes will use that audio to create the harmony part. You won't see any audio on track 2, only MIDI (little horizontal lines) in the MIDI track you added at about 1:40 in the video. Hope that helps!
Very interesting. However, for most purposes a simpler harmony would work. For example, Soundtoys' Little Alter Boy was just handed out as a free VST, which allows formant (male to female) and pitch shifting with several presets. It's pretty functional. And of course, there are devices that can be played with a midi keyboard that allow for multi-part harmonies by playing chords, or single lines, such as TC Helicon. I agree with the author....This looks like way too much work.
+Urbane Gorilla Oh absolutely! It's way too much work if you can do the singing yourself or pay for a better program. ReaVoice is at least free (if you have Reaper). I make that point that "real" harmony is preferable over and over in the course. I only included the demo of software-generated harmony due to the interest of several people. This was the free one. I also will demo Vieklang Instant Harmony and Antares Harmony Engine. Thanks for the tip on Little Alter Boy! I'll check that out and maybe give that a demo too.
why don't you change the algorithm in ReaVoice and use "preserve formants" to kick the chipmunks/dartvaders out of the game?
Hello this question has nothing to do with your video but I remembered you actually responded to one of my questions before. I was watching a reaper tutorial video about file management and he had me messing around with preferences and creating back up folders. I did everything he said and now I can’t see any sound waves on my tracks. It’s just blank there’s nothing there. I asked him about it but he hasn’t responded and I can’t figure it out so I’m desperate. And yes I tried view show peaks. I wonder if there’s someway to go back to default preferences because he had me change so much I can’t remember what it was before. Got any ideas on how to get the sound waves displayed again?
Hi Keith. Do you at least know where the files are? If so, and if I understand what's going on correctly, you might just be able to "Insert/Media File" for each track and navigate to the folder where the audio should be. It's not ideal. But it might be a way to rebuild your project.
Home Brew Audio I know where the back up files are supposed to be if that’s what you mean. I’m not at my computer right now so I’ll get back to you about that. Thanks for the response
@@HomebrewAudioRecording I found the problem. the preferences, general, paths store all peak caches in alternate box was checked so I just unchecked it and that worked.
@@keithd.6712 Thanks for that update!
how do i know how many half steps up or down should i go from the original note?? (btw does that mean trying for every single note??) thanks
.....perfect........very good.......congratulations.......
Thanks!
Thank you thats a pretty detailed lesson ;) btw, would the velocity of the harmony notes affect anything?
Btw if you`re a true "Son of a Sea" you wont be scared to be "Underneath the C" ;) at least drunk sailors arent
Sergey, it would likely affect the attack and volume of the note. The easiest way to find out exactly how it would affect things in your own recording would be to experiment with the Velocity values in the MIDI edit window in Reaper. Hope that helps. And you're welcome for the video:).
Also, (see previous post) I cannot figure out how to get my midi controller to work on Reaper. The plugins work fine, but when I want to physically play the midi keyboard I get now sound. To make even more frustrating...I got the keyboard to work ONCE. then it stopped. Arggh!!
+Martin Weeks the first thing to check is whether you have an instrument plugged in (I've made this mistake many times:-P). After that, check to see if you have Record Monitoring turned on. There is an icon on the track control panel that looks like a little speaker to turn Record Monitoring on and off. See if one of those things solves the problem.
Done that...repeatedly. I got it to work once, then all of a sudden the connection got lost. I've also lost plugins that I've loaded, used and printed tracks with those vanishing effects on them. Reaper seriously gets on my nerves with these weird glitches. Wish I knew what was going on...as I like the software, but can't ever use it for anything extensive.
+Martin Weeks I'm sorry to hear about all the problems. I've never heard of that happening. It's certainly never happen to me and I've been using it for 6 or 7 years. I recommend asking on the Reaper forum. They are super helpful and super fast. Got here: forum.cockos.com/
Super helpful, thanks.
You're welcome!
Hey awesome tutorial but I do have a problem. Even if I create a midi file,as soon as I release the button and don´t hold it down anymore the double or harmony stops and you can only hear the actual voice,not the Midi:
So you've created MIDI notes (the horizontal lines) that play at the same time (and last the same amount of time) as each sung note? If so, and you're sure you followed every other step, then it should work.
Home Brew Audio Yeah that's what I did,but it didn't work. Well maybe I'll figure it out someday,thanks for the fast replie.
At this point, I think you should as on the Reaper forum here: forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19
Great demo, thank you ;-)
You're welcome David:). Thanks for your comment!
There are other options, buttons and so on in Reavoice to make it sound better. Play with them.
Good advice. Thanks.
Actually I did something to improve the sound, but instead of using Reavoice, I used Reapitch. Try it, by changing the formants (There are 3 if I remember well) it will sound a lot better. Of course it will sound robotic when you listen to itself alone, but in combination with the original and the rest of the instruments, it sounds pretty nice. Instead of making it like a MIDI, you need, I think, to change the pitch by moving the automation curves, but is nice. Cheers
Thanks! You can also try ReaTune - ruclips.net/video/xwUECtQr1oM/видео.html
Not gonna lie, I thought I knew no music theory until I watched this video
I dont see a route button like you got
thanks for sharing
My pleasure
I get everything but what is roght click, I googled it and can't find that in my Reaper, how do I continue? Here it is at 10:55
Doh! Well, it's like this. It's sort of like a right-click, but if you live in South London :-P.
Hay, how much MB are used by this program? Is it very heavy? Is there any spanish version? Thanks!
Jose, the program was designed from he ground up to be light. THAT was the whole idea from the beginning - NOT to be like the typical programs that are bloated with code. You can even put an installation on a USB stick. BTW, I am not associated with them in any way. As for your Spanish questions, check their page here: reaper.fm/langpack/#langpack_dev Hope that helps!
Excelent! thank you, and great video by the way!
Thanks Jose!
It took me like 1-2 minutes to download. It's ridiculous how small it is.
It took me like 5 mins to realize this guy sounds distantly like Matthew McConaughey.
Alright, alright, alright! :-P
Why not use duplicates and reapitch?
You can. It's just even harder than the above, which is already too hard in my lazy opinion:). The best way is simply to sing all the parts (or have others sing them with/for you). The next best way is to use good quality harmony software like zPlane, AutoTune or Melodyne. In the course, I show how to do it with the first two of those programs.
The simple answer is that this method used less tracks and processing power. You can certainly achieve the same effect using ReaPitch, but you'd need several track just to make one of these harmony parts. It's a trade-off though since with ReaPitch you'd have formant control to make it sound more realistic.
if you save the all mix parts resultl in one track and delete the original tacks you will not have more power processing, and save the parts in other place if you want to change in the future....I believe
If the actual note sung is G, then why not just make G the center note? Makes life much easier, don't you think?
Well since the center note is only going to play a unison I suppose, maybe it may have saved me a few note changes. But not enough to make life easy when using ReaVoice to create specific harmonies. Like I mention in the video/course, this method is one way to do it, but far, far from the easiest or best. The main virtue is that it's free, whereas programs like Vielklang Instant Harmony and Antares Harmony Engine can be pricey. Also, ReaVoice is better suited to sort of experimenting with a voice to maybe create some interesting harmonies by sort of playing with it. It might, for instance, be more useful in making up a harmony part than actually recording one.
Please put me on your mailing list? I'm migrating from my current DAW to Reaper, and the learning curve (spec dealing with i.o's) is extremely tedious. I have works in progress and submissions to complete so really need to get with it on the routing and busing agenda. Thank you.
Hey, HBA, i have a question.
I was able to do everything the tutorial showed. The only thing is, after i've done some harmonies it just stops having effect. I play it while the track thats being sent plays, but it just doesnt work anymore. Do you know what could be the problem? Thanks a million!
Great video, btw, very tutorial-ly!
"Tutorial-y" - I like it:). I don't know why that would happen, Gustavo. I usually would ask the question on the Reaper forum when something like this happens. You can find that here: reaper.fm Hope you get a solution!
awesome my friend..
Thanks Slim!
but how to do it in real time? at time of performance
This isn't set up like that. You'd need something like AutoTune, which has an "automatic" mode in order to process live vocals.
thanks men ;)
LOL. You're welcome!
The formant change is the harmony track is so far gone I would be amazed if you could make it sound natural. I will stick with Melodyne. Also, if a song is in the key of "G Major" isn't it easier just to select G as the center note? Than you could do the harmony in your head without even thinking about intervals.
I agree that better harmonizers sound more natural. That's why this course has demos on Antares Harmony Engine and Vielklang Instant Harmony, both paid programs. This demo is just one FREE option for folks who may want to use software for harmony. No doubt that this free version sounds not-natural. The best way to get natural harmonies is to sing them for sure. And that is what I do, personally. Just wanted to cover all the bases for all the budget levels and ability levels (some folks aren't good at singing harmonies or figuring them out, etc.). Also, as to the setting for this particular example, the harmony part was already written for the song and I was trying to get exactly that part. But yes, if you don't already have a part in mind, you'd probably be able to do it faster and easier the way you mentioned.
@@HomebrewAudioRecording I appreciate your quick reply. I was just watching a video on "why I ditched protools for reaper" - and he made a good case, especially with the new Avid licensing system. I use ProTools 10 and never switched to Reaper because I honestly found Reaper to be TOO confusing, especially when reading the manual. Now I know f I just started using it I would probably have no problems (I am sure it is very intuitive), but I kind of have a fear of getting into a format where I see a tool like this and go to the trouble to use it, only to find the results somewhat disappointing. IOW: sometimes when you have an overabundance of options it is because many of them are not that good.
@@cruisemates I found Reaper to be pretty darned intuitive when I first started. but of course there is a learning curve. But it wasn't the manual I reached for first whenever I had a question. It was the INCREDIBLY active and helpful forum here forum.cockos.com/ You'll have answers sometimes minutes of asking a question. And the search function will find answers to questions that have been asked many times before. So sometimes you don't even have to wait at all. I've recorded 10+ albums with Reaper and have not found anything missing that I needed while tracking and mixing.
thx, now gotta so some bending
You're welcome!
The piano roll doesn't change the note my sample is in. I followed all the steps.
+K White White double check if you created a send from the track with the audio on it to the track wither the ReaVoice effect loaded and the MIDI item on it.
I did. Would there be any ither reason?
Assuming you have a MIDI item on track 2 and that ReaVoice is loaded AND is not disabled for any reason, then no. There is no reason I can think of.
It worked in another instance of the program, thanks.
Good. Glad to hear you got it working.
can you help me to get reaper with license please ?