I respectfully disagree…… Melissa auf der Mayr as bassist and James Iha before his departure for a perfect circle was far superior to the Zeitgeist lineup. Machina and the machines of god was the Apex of The Smashing Pumpkins. Every song on featured on that album were perfect. I will say that this track, bleeding the orchid, and doomsday clock were phenomenal but not enough to make the Zeitgeist lineup stand against the 2000s Pumpkins. I’m glad Iha returned…. Really hoping Machina part Two comes soon!
sometimes ithink there's songs musicians dont get their due for because theyve already done so much....this is one of em...this is a great! alt rock song
YES!!! Thankyou!!! Finally a proper Pumpkins fan. I'm sick of people Whining about the music being about modern situations an without james an darcy. SP4ever! x
mainstream music is in such a bad place right now. SP are are on of the only bands out there that makes real music. Even if you don't think this is as good as old SP we still need to support them. And hey Billy is a genius so he will just keep comin out wit better stuff.
you have got to be kidding me, jimmy isn't a yes man. why would he have to agree with anyone? he's probably one of the greatest drummers in rock now. billy is lucky to have him, not the other way around
thats because on the cd its Billy playing bass, lead, and rhythm guitar. He's also doing backing vocals too. When recording Zeitgeist, Billy didn't have his live crew yet. After the album was recorded he recuited the live crew like on Live Earth. That may be reason why all the songs sound better live off of Zeitgeist.
Don't give a fuck what he does now. He was the best during Gish and Siamese Dream. MCIS was also big time. I'm thrown way back to why I still care about this guy. Growing up, he was the shit. Freak is an awesome song. Eh.....
While I understand that viewpoint, and I did see that interview, that interview was filmed before she had talked about her solo album. It is pure speculation to say either way.
yeah, that's true. i don't get people complaining about Jeff not being lively.. because it's not like Iha was. When I saw them in Asheville I thought the new members did fine. (of course I saw them the night Billy coaxed Jeff in to playing with his teeth, lol)
I don't know if I ever responded to this, but I know all my friends do, but I mean I'm talking about in general. It seems like even the hardcore fans were a little divided though. Anyways, when I posted that comment I don't think I completely understood the way pumpkins had been boxed in by their hits, which I think contributed as well to a general aura of disappointment with Zeitgeist upon its release. I didn't listen to them then, so this is really just based on what I've read since.
yep, he quit after the tour. they say billy will continue as smashing pumpkins with all touring musicians. i think its dead now. jimmy's drumming can't be replaced
thanks alot to you guys for letting me know who were the orignal memebers were. and to PaidYouOff how am i being lazy, i just asking other sp fans a question. though it is my fault that i didnt find them earlier. oh and i bout melion collie and the infinite, one word......awesome
no, it's not a delonge strat, the delonge strat has only one volume knob. I thought the same thing myself. Corgan's guitar has more than one knob. same color and everything though, i know this because i own one.
![Smashing Pumpkins • “Ava Adore” • 1998 [Reelin' In The Years Archive]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/j5LVWUneDt8/mqdefault.jpg)
This song is very shoegaze. The droning feedback, the white noise strumming, it's all so beautiful.
This song alone was worth buying Zeitgeist for.
Yup.
And Doomsday clock!
That whole album was insanely good. It's incredibly underrated and honestly maybe my favorite overall Pumpkins album with Siamese Dream.
It sure was...which is why I bought it when it came out
Jimmy Chamberlain is a terrific drummer!
This album was incredible very underrated
This is a stunning song.
Those synths are amazing
Don't give a shit if a lot of orginal bandmembers left. This band is still awesome. And I love this song. Thnx for uploading.
I remember being in 9th grade and this was the song that made me find the Smashing Pumpkins. Been in love with them since.
Just saw this play this song live last nite. Absolutely Incredible
Probably the best song on the very good new album from the Smashing Pumpkins.
I love billy corgan!!! This song should have been big!!! its really good!!! i love this song live!!!
I love this song. And I love this performance 🖤
Next to the original lineup, this was the best version of the Pumpkins. Ginger Reyes and Lisa, the keyboardist, kicked ass.
I respectfully disagree…… Melissa auf der Mayr as bassist and James Iha before his departure for a perfect circle was far superior to the Zeitgeist lineup. Machina and the machines of god was the Apex of The Smashing Pumpkins. Every song on featured on that album were perfect. I will say that this track, bleeding the orchid, and doomsday clock were phenomenal but not enough to make the Zeitgeist lineup stand against the 2000s Pumpkins. I’m glad Iha returned…. Really hoping Machina part Two comes soon!
Nicole was definitely the most talented pumpkin bassist on record.
Billy Corgan is the best... Good sounds til now. Thank you to the Pumpkins, old and new
RIGHT!/? I love how he combines hard rock with shoe gaze in this one.
sometimes ithink there's songs musicians dont get their due for because theyve already done so much....this is one of em...this is a great! alt rock song
Still hear the MBV influence in them to this day.
this song is like if _Machina II_ was made by Zwan, or something like that…
Feels like home.
Excellent song, one of the greatest.
Still one of the best Pumpkins song since 2007.
That Is What We Need, That Is What We Love.
aside from the original line up this is in my opinion the second best.
I don't know why, but I really find this song moving. More so than "Tonight, Tonight" even...I can't put my finger on it.
Same
Such a great song! Great album!
This is what they call a wall of sound approach...
Shoegaze for the win.
This song is so good, it reminds me of the feel that Zwan had.
YES!!! Thankyou!!! Finally a proper Pumpkins fan. I'm sick of people Whining about the music being about modern situations an without james an darcy.
SP4ever! x
I feel a coming age now
I feel a dawn in me
A certain sun keeps rising
On my belief in you
so beautiful.
Thanks a lot for posting. 5 stars. Great album
mainstream music is in such a bad place right now. SP are are on of the only bands out there that makes real music. Even if you don't think this is as good as old SP we still need to support them. And hey Billy is a genius so he will just keep comin out wit better stuff.
What do u think of everything they're doing now
I love Ginger.
This is a great song!
hey adore was friggin awesome
that's the best song of this album
Hey man thanks for sharing this (literally)
lovely
Thanks for posting the link to the really high quality version! YOU ROCK!!!
This is great.
Alto sonido mágico.
I loved Zeitgeist.
Эта песня разорвала мою душу в облаках!
my favorite song off the album btw
What a band, what a song
i love this song
SP must to come in Brazil...
Love the grungy guitar.
goosebumps everytime
:) this made me sooo happy today
Love this
great song !!!
thanks for posting...
wheres the video gone, it was on youtube a while back but can't find it anymore :(... this live version is still awesome though
great stuff
you have got to be kidding me, jimmy isn't a yes man. why would he have to agree with anyone? he's probably one of the greatest drummers in rock now. billy is lucky to have him, not the other way around
my fav. from the new album
nice one billy
just a soooo great vid thx 4 upload :) greez
my second-best SP lineup.
quality music
Well said Zeonoid.
would have fit right in on Machina too... I'm so sick of people dissing Zeitgeist. Time will tell... prove...
genial poesía hecha música !!!
me too, they were the best
underrated song
You've got the right idea.:)
@enemay AMEN
its really a dream pop song
I cried to the Moon. Trist is my Man.
thats because on the cd its Billy playing bass, lead, and rhythm guitar. He's also doing backing vocals too. When recording Zeitgeist, Billy didn't have his live crew yet. After the album was recorded he recuited the live crew like on Live Earth. That may be reason why all the songs sound better live off of Zeitgeist.
agree 100%
Don't give a fuck what he does now. He was the best during Gish and Siamese Dream. MCIS was also big time. I'm thrown way back to why I still care about this guy. Growing up, he was the shit. Freak is an awesome song. Eh.....
While I understand that viewpoint, and I did see that interview, that interview was filmed before she had talked about her solo album. It is pure speculation to say either way.
omfg yes finally someone who agrees
Very good!
BJORK was there in novemeber i hope smashing pumpkins play too in Peru !!!!!
smashing punkins play in sudamerica in december i hope they play in PERU !!!!!
so true
niiiicceee!!
yeah, that's true. i don't get people complaining about Jeff not being lively.. because it's not like Iha was.
When I saw them in Asheville I thought the new members did fine. (of course I saw them the night Billy coaxed Jeff in to playing with his teeth, lol)
Jeff is awesome. So glad he's still in the band.
comment on billy for all u want. i still love they way he is and the new pumpkins. as a fan, we should support them and their decisions
oooh on my birthday too!!
yessssssah.
Ginger Reys the 3 best of bassist for a smashing pumpkins heuejejen
Damn she's hot!
Ginger is the cutest of the 4 bassists!
I don't know if I ever responded to this, but I know all my friends do, but I mean I'm talking about in general. It seems like even the hardcore fans were a little divided though. Anyways, when I posted that comment I don't think I completely understood the way pumpkins had been boxed in by their hits, which I think contributed as well to a general aura of disappointment with Zeitgeist upon its release. I didn't listen to them then, so this is really just based on what I've read since.
Yes, I'm aware of that.
wow....nice performance..and ginger...:D
yep, he quit after the tour. they say billy will continue as smashing pumpkins with all touring musicians. i think its dead now. jimmy's drumming can't be replaced
i don't know why people complain about the new members not being lively on stage, thats not what the smashing pumpkins are about.
billy is and always will be the pumpkins
thanks alot to you guys for letting me know who were the orignal memebers were. and to PaidYouOff how am i being lazy, i just asking other sp fans a question. though it is my fault that i didnt find them earlier. oh and i bout melion collie and the infinite, one word......awesome
love the shoegaze vibe, one of Corgan's best
4:18
looks like a hot little brittney murphy playin bass....yeeeeaaahh
SPEAK THE TRUTH
i hate people that complain they should get the band back together, they have been invited back multiple times but they turned billy down each time
my gawd, Ginger looks amazing.
no, it's not a delonge strat, the delonge strat has only one volume knob. I thought the same thing myself. Corgan's guitar has more than one knob. same color and everything though, i know this because i own one.
I want to see more shots of the keyboard player.