wonderful review and impressive distance especially considering temps looked too cool down quite a bit around 47-48 deg F towards the end of the run. Wonder if it go even further in warmer temps say 70 or 80 degs
That rear motor not decoupling is news to me. I have still been seeing about 265 mi range at 70-80 mph on my 4S with 20”, manual charging ports. Great test, thanks Kyle. Hope you enjoy your Taycan CT.
Interesting that you’re only getting 88kW with the ChargePoint. That’s not much better than what a 400V car can do while charging on one of those due to the 200A limitation. I figured the reason Chargepoint feels they can claim these as 125kW rated is through 800V charging at 160ish amps with something like a Taycan or EV6. I guess now I can fully commit to criticizing their 125kW charging rate claims as a straight up lie.
At 22:10, you make a point of saying that the optional ($1500) Surround View camera is important for seeing the curb at charging stations -- mentioned also on other EV videos on the Taycan by you or others, as being important for not hitting the curb because the charging cables are so short that you have to get really close to the curb. My question is this: are the curbs really that high that you have to worry about hitting them? And don't Taycans have the usual Porsche front sound sensors that also show on the PCM screen colors like orange and red indicating how close a given part of the bumper is to an obstruction in front, like a wall or a curb?
I noticed there’s no review or range test for the Jaguar I Pace. It’s one of the best looking EVs available currently would love to see how it preforms.
Love my MY19 FE iPace, both the first EV and first luxury car I’ve owned. Only downside is trying to spec the Taycan planned replacement anywhere near its options spec £$£$£$…(looking at Taycan CT as don’t want an identical car in a row). But it is an older vehicle, they need to upgrade the charge rate and curve significantly in any future iPace refresh. My last 170 mile trip averaged 66mph on some undulating terrain with a fair few slow to fast zones and based on battery percentage and not GoM I’d have said the range was about 210 miles.
At 45F, the heater was probably running, so you're still losing energy, even if the car is partially scavenging heat. I guess it depends on how hot the powertrain is actually getting at a constant 70 mph with its 800V system. Air resistance is also higher at colder temperatures, which will have an impact. Less of an impact because the car is so aerodynamic, but still an impact. It looks like elevation may be around 6000 ft? If so, then you're also getting the benefit of lower air density in your test region, which is probably helping with range. Maybe the elevation and temperature balance out to a point.
They do a lot better at freeway speeds than I thought. Honestly, if most evs got 250 miles in cooler weather (45-55F) like this one, that would be just fine for traveling. 210-220 miles to get to about 10% SOC, that's 3 hours traveling. At 250+kw charging, that's about 20-25 minutes for a refreshment break, then at it again. Perfect. Though, being able to do more for colder/wetter weather, and 3.5-4 hours would be nicer, more flexible. Another 5 years, I'm sure.
I am interested in the ford lightning, but would like to know more about the actual battery pack. SK innovations will make the pack using nickel 9 ncm technology. Given that it is a new technology I have a couple of questions that every potential buyer would likely like to know: - What are the advantages of the nickel 9 ncm technology over traditional lithium or lifepo4 batteries other than it is more eco friendly? - Given the cost of a replacement battery pack, what is the expected life of these batteries compared to Tesla's batteries? - What temperature ranges must the battery be kept in? It appears to have liquid heating/cooling, If you are storing the truck in an unheated/cooled garage, what will be the energy needed to keep the battery within tolerance while it is parked? How long can you leave it if you go on vacations, etc., before it would use up the battery keeping it conditioned? (obviously this depends on ambient temperature) I think all 100K+ people that have reserved a lightning would be interested in these details. I, for one, do not plan to purchase this truck until I can know more technical battery details. Thanks.
So 251 miles of 70MPH is icing on the cake to this outstandingly beautiful well engineered and executed vehicle.😍
The high altitude is for sure adding to the range in comparison to sea level. Thoughts?
wonderful review and impressive distance especially considering temps looked too cool down quite a bit around 47-48 deg F towards the end of the run. Wonder if it go even further in warmer temps say 70 or 80 degs
22:32 251.7 miles
That rear motor not decoupling is news to me. I have still been seeing about 265 mi range at 70-80 mph on my 4S with 20”, manual charging ports.
Great test, thanks Kyle. Hope you enjoy your Taycan CT.
I really like the name of the charger kum & Go .
I wonder what the range is with average speed of 35-40 mph, as in local driving (which is what most people do most of the time)...
Interesting that you’re only getting 88kW with the ChargePoint. That’s not much better than what a 400V car can do while charging on one of those due to the 200A limitation.
I figured the reason Chargepoint feels they can claim these as 125kW rated is through 800V charging at 160ish amps with something like a Taycan or EV6.
I guess now I can fully commit to criticizing their 125kW charging rate claims as a straight up lie.
At 22:10, you make a point of saying that the optional ($1500) Surround View camera is important for seeing the curb at charging stations -- mentioned also on other EV videos on the Taycan by you or others, as being important for not hitting the curb because the charging cables are so short that you have to get really close to the curb. My question is this: are the curbs really that high that you have to worry about hitting them? And don't Taycans have the usual Porsche front sound sensors that also show on the PCM screen colors like orange and red indicating how close a given part of the bumper is to an obstruction in front, like a wall or a curb?
I stoped just to say what a beautiful car is this white Porsche! I love it!
2:15 Looks so cool, like a chopped SUV. 🤤
Please provide temperature also in Celsius.
"Kum"and go..lol
I noticed there’s no review or range test for the Jaguar I Pace. It’s one of the best looking EVs available currently would love to see how it preforms.
Love my MY19 FE iPace, both the first EV and first luxury car I’ve owned. Only downside is trying to spec the Taycan planned replacement anywhere near its options spec £$£$£$…(looking at Taycan CT as don’t want an identical car in a row). But it is an older vehicle, they need to upgrade the charge rate and curve significantly in any future iPace refresh. My last 170 mile trip averaged 66mph on some undulating terrain with a fair few slow to fast zones and based on battery percentage and not GoM I’d have said the range was about 210 miles.
Kum and Go? Seriously? If you charge to 100% do you get a happy ending? LOL.
That Bolt EV in the beginning that parked too far from the charger. Lol
Love the Taycan Cross Turismo, its my dream car.
Great review. Exactly what I like to see. What is it really like just going from city to city. Awesome
I don’t see an option for the power charge port on the configurator. Is it not available on the base model?
Don't the rims on the right-hand side of the car bug you? They should make left and right-hand rims. They spin the wrong direction.
At 45F, the heater was probably running, so you're still losing energy, even if the car is partially scavenging heat. I guess it depends on how hot the powertrain is actually getting at a constant 70 mph with its 800V system. Air resistance is also higher at colder temperatures, which will have an impact. Less of an impact because the car is so aerodynamic, but still an impact. It looks like elevation may be around 6000 ft? If so, then you're also getting the benefit of lower air density in your test region, which is probably helping with range. Maybe the elevation and temperature balance out to a point.
Would the second person in a car effect the range test?
Yes, more weight!
Because the cars are awesome! I guess you complain when someone calls a super model attractive? Glass half full person ?
When you compare to Lucid 500mile 70MPH range test it unfortunately leaves Taycan in the dust. Still Porsche looks cool though even sitting still
They do a lot better at freeway speeds than I thought. Honestly, if most evs got 250 miles in cooler weather (45-55F) like this one, that would be just fine for traveling. 210-220 miles to get to about 10% SOC, that's 3 hours traveling. At 250+kw charging, that's about 20-25 minutes for a refreshment break, then at it again. Perfect. Though, being able to do more for colder/wetter weather, and 3.5-4 hours would be nicer, more flexible. Another 5 years, I'm sure.
I noticed my 2020 4 S with software update that the graphic display of power flow shows power just going to front motor when in range mode.
I miss Lexie forcing a smile while she holds her bar during a 'drift test'... :)
I’m in love, want one so bad but know I shouldn’t do it yet
Great work Kyle! Very helpful.
Great video.
Gorgeous car.
Well done. Now part two,return drive.
They drove a loop: 6:36
I am interested in the ford lightning, but would like to know more about the actual battery pack. SK innovations will make the pack using nickel 9 ncm technology. Given that it is a new technology I have a couple of questions that every potential buyer would likely like to know:
- What are the advantages of the nickel 9 ncm technology over traditional lithium or lifepo4 batteries other than it is more eco friendly?
- Given the cost of a replacement battery pack, what is the expected life of these batteries compared to Tesla's batteries?
- What temperature ranges must the battery be kept in? It appears to have liquid heating/cooling, If you are storing the truck in an unheated/cooled garage, what will be the energy needed to keep the battery within tolerance while it is parked? How long can you leave it if you go on vacations, etc., before it would use up the battery keeping it conditioned? (obviously this depends on ambient temperature)
I think all 100K+ people that have reserved a lightning would be interested in these details. I, for one, do not plan to purchase this truck until I can know more technical battery details.
Thanks.
Why do these youtubers all sound like Porsche salesman?
You make a good product, you convert customers into salesmen.
porsche doesn't make a bad car. that's why
This car sells itself (if you can afford it)
@@bostondan77 exactly, I would take the Taycan over model S any day of the week.