EXPLAINED: Six Zero Paddles (introducing THE RUBY)
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Six Zero just released their new Ruby paddle and I take this opportunity to not only go over the Ruby paddle but compare the rest of the offerings from Six Zero to help you decide which paddle is the best fit for you.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:23 Black Diamond
04:00 Double Black Diamond
04:26 DBD Variations
07:32 Sapphire
08:05 New Paddle Shape
09:45 Ruby
11:35 Rankings by Category
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For those wondering my Ruby came in at 8.4oz with a swing weight of 117.
Is there any chance you and/or Chris could do like a ranking of paddle companies customer service? As I continue to purchase more paddles, I am starting to include customer service as a higher factor into the price of the paddle.
@lethalk9186 which companies do you feel have good customer service?
Beautiful explanation, thanks
Thanks for the review especially since the Rudy releases today. Chris dropped the ball on the Ruby booooo Chris
Loved your theory on fine vs. course grit texture for spin results based on the dwell time of the swing. Interesting hypothesis! Though if all future paddles being released with courser grit I'm guessing there is greater perceived performance for a variety of players/play styles
Very informative video.. Thank you!!
Thanks Will. That was fast! Just what a review I was asking for yesterday!!
Timing just happened to work out haha
Question, I don’t own a DBD paddle but I am planning to get one soon so should I get a Ruby instead?
You reviews on the difference between dbd 14 and bd are on point. Great vid! Keep it up!!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for this great comparison and summary.
I recently purchased the Infinity and it is a tremendous step up from all paddles I previously have played with. It will probably be passed on to my fiancée when the Will-Nator is released though.
I agree with Will's assessment. I haven't played with the Ruby yet, but I can imagine it is very similar to the Pickleball Apes Pro Energy S kevlar paddle.
Been waiting for this review as I’ve tried them all. Based on my play style I think the DBD 14mm fits me better but I did like the Ruby over the Infinity.
Thank you 😊
Will glad to see you have your own channel, but still working with Chris also. You guys are my go to reviewers. I just ordered two DBD 16mm as Christmas presents for my two oldest grandsons (20 & 22). They are finally beginning to play more Pickleball and one actually will be in a junior level PE Pickleball class in college this spring semester. Hope to run into you sometime in the Tulsa area. My son and family live nearby. I am trying to get my youngest grandson(14) lessons with Katie for Christmas.
Love to hear it! Hope to run into you soon! I’m sure it will happen once we get more social rec play happening at TopSeed
Just ordered the dbd 16 mm with the discount code thanks Will! Coming from the slk halo 16 mm max- Interested to see the difference.
Glitch in the Matrix ... saw the same game footage on John Kew's channel ... Great lineup description all in one video.
From the 6.0 event during Nationals (infinity launch party and prototype demos)
I need that elongated paddle immediately, love everything about it especially that 6” handle for backhands when is it coming?
I’ll have the BD DBD and the Ruby when it arrives. One of my sons has my BD and the other took my DBD. I do have a DBD for myself that isn’t as good as the one I gave my son. Hopefully I’ll love the Ruby!
After playing for a week I like it. I would like it more if it were of the longer type, as I tend to hit the ball higher on the paddle face, and any contact there causes erratic behavior. I definitely like the feel at contact better than my previous thermo-formed. It sounds better. Lots of spin. I’ll get another if they make the elongated version.
Dang! I hit against the wall and played once before suffering a bad injury during a mountain hike. Now, I just look at the paddle, and the game, and wonder…. I let a friend play with it once, and he loved it. Sigh.
We need the will-nator.
Immediate sub.
Good review! Wondering if you know much about the Body Helix X3 Pro and the Thrive Azul? Thanks again!🙂
Great video bro!
Next time I gotta feature you in some gameplay bro!
@@PickleballWill there’s a reason none of my gameplay footage is available 😂😂😂 I’m down for bbq tho!
My gameplay footage involves me taking body bags like happy gilmore in a batting cage 😂
Will why don't any reveiwers talk about the brand/quality and specs of the core materials? There are several choices from suppliers for honeycomb cores. Thicker cell walls and diameters would help in durability as well as how a paddle feels on impact.Have a great trip to Vegas with Chris, John and Braydon.
Will! My Dawg! Come down to South Florida so i can give you and Nahom the smoke. Bring the ruby so I can try it 😂
Raul! my guy i miss that time we had those games! You can give Nahom the smoke and i'll call the fire department. I have tentative plans to be in Florida in March, holla at you!
Can’t wait for six zero to drop the wil-a-nator haha
All waiting with bated breath
quick edit for 12:06 would be changing last one from DBD 16mm to DBD Infinity (Just letting you know Will! Small thing, doesn't matter.. haha)
Hi Will, you crushed it with this review of the Six Zero lineup. I wanted to ask you if you’ve viewed the Pickleball Effect review of the “Ruby”? I ask because it seems as if you and Brayden came away with different opinions on the power and control features of the paddle. I’d like your thoughts on this.
Yea I watched Brayden’s vid and you could argue either way. I place it as better control paddle than the DBD infinity and DBD 16 purely on the merit of spin potential. If I have access to more spin and those 3 paddles are close when it comes to plushness then I’m going to give the #1 control spot to the paddle that can generate more spin because I have more options on where I can place the ball. That being said I think power levels between Ruby and DBD 16 are very similar and the infinity is definitely the softest playing out of those 3
The Amethyst Black Diamond seems like a silly weight specification alternative. Due to the variance, there are plenty of Amethysts that are actually lighter than plenty of standard Black Diamonds.
So for all you reviewers who reviewed the Ruby and claimed the pop was lacking put lead strips 10, 2,7,5 and 4,8. It's a total beast, with massive pop and a soft touch.
Ruby is super heavy
It doesn't feel that way to me. Maybe due to the shock absorption with Kevlar. I usually get shoulder pain with heavier swing weight and weighted paddles but not at all with this one.
Agree with you on the naming, except Black Diamond is less then Double Black diamond on all the Trail and ski routes, I always think the Double Black diamond is the power paddle (boom smash crash) and the Black Diamond as a control , but its opposite.
True I can see that. When they first released I had similar thoughts as well
BS players with fast hands are fast on 16.5 elongated also.
Go with heavier paddles if you have no problem with hand speed and power.
what are you commenting on? Will and are talking about names paddles , not the quick hands@@bart1476
It looks like the grip is different between the Black Diamond and the Pro. The Pro slopes more so it looks like it gives more room for 2 hands.
True
What are your thoughts on the black diamond infinity amethyst?
Hey Will, how "poppy" is the DBD compared to say an Engage Pursuit? used engage paddles for a long time and always struggled with out balls due to not being able to keep the pop down. I switched to the Vatic Prism Flash and really love the control and hand speed, but miss that power. Would the DBD or DBD Edgeless be a good option? Thanks!
Is launch angle any different from the dbd? I know Brayden from PB Effect was testing that theory and because the ball has more dwell time/pocketing with the kevlar face, wanted to see if you noticed the balls on the ruby going maybe higher?
Yes, i noticed i had to adjust my grip ever so slightly more towards semi western to get my shots to stay lower
Hey Will can you find out the progress and possible release date for the x35.
Great video! I switched to the Six Zero line from the Power Air about 3 months ago and love it! I have a DBD16 and DBD14. I prefer the DBD16 but would like to put some weight on the DBD14. Not familiar with weights at all, got any recommendations?
Try 0.15oz on either side at 4 and 8 o clock
Will, if you can create your own power and top spin would you opt for the Ruby or the DBD 14MM? I play mostly in the 4.5-5 level category
Thanks for your time, looking for next paddle. Currently playing Legacy Pro, could you please tell me if Ruby has more power and pop. Thanks again.
Nah it doesn’t. Haven’t hit a Legacy Pro in awhile but I’d say it’s about the same or a bit less
What about the BD Infinity?
I ordered my ruby literally 60 seconds after the web site opened up sales. I received a couple of weeks ago. I have about 20 hours play time on it so far. I have to be honest, I havent found it near as good a paddle as either the BD or DBD (I have both 16mm). I LOVE 6 zero products, and those first two paddles are fantastic. Granted, the Ruby is FANTASTIC looking, but I am having much more trouble on resets and dinks. Even drives are less consistent. It really feels like the sweet spot is much smaller on this paddle... it certainly could just be me but even guys I play with frequently noticed a big increase in off center hits (it makes a very noticeable mis hit sound). I would also like to know what the durability of the kevlar face is vs the carbon fiber. I had a bit over zealous playing partner bang the face of my paddle with his a bit to hard after a big point, and it left a pretty noticeable surface scar. That never happened with the carbon fiber paddles. I am going to work with it a bit more but thought I would share a couple of thoughts.
Updated thoughts?
Question Will, I don’t own a DBD paddle but I am planning to get one soon so should I get a Ruby instead?
Is it okay to use the pickleball erasers on kevlar? I know it's been said not to use them on non carbon fiber paddles, but that was before we had kevlar.
Yea you can use the eraser on these kevlar paddles. You can basically use them on any paddle surface that uses Resin and peel ply
Coming from a DBD 16mm, is the new Ruby worth it? I love the paddle but just wish it was a little more plush and had more control like my Prism Flash.
I think the Ruby is better than the DBD 16mm and the Prism flash. The Ruby def feels slightly softer than the prism flash imho
how do you compare the pro flash 14 mm and the dbd 14 mm? which is better?
Which paddle would you consider more of an all around paddle? The double black diamond 14mm or the 16mm? I know you prefer the 14mm so just wanted to know what you thought.
DBD 16mm
Will, hope this isn’t too fawning, but I think you have the best reviews on YT, including PB studio (Sorry Chris. You’re the only reviewer to never steer me wrong even when you review paddles that don’t really fit your game.
What I don’t like is that you are now killing my wallet with this Ruby review. 😂
haha 🙏 hopefully you been nice this year and Santa will help you out
are those the courts at mckinney? i play there too!
Yes they are! That’s where I played when I first tested them
I have dbd 14mm and the BD I actually prefer the BD like Will.
Yes unless I’m playing with the Franklin Ball. Then the DBD 14 is 👑
@@PickleballWillis that bc the DBD14 has a little more pop than the BD?
Also, if I’m going to lead tape the paddle up to ~8.9oz anyway, is there any advantage to the BD Pro over the standard BD?
Great review of the line-up by the way! I’m using a DBD16 at the moment, and am looking to power up and hope I can keep things under control still!
@@PT_7514 yes a bit more pop than the BD, but that’s why BD is better imho
Hi Will, do you think the weight distribution on the BD Pro is headheavy, and the regular BD is more balanced? Thanks
The BD Pro I have feels slightly more head heavy than the regular BD I have. So yes, the regular BD feels more balanced or has a lower swingweight
@@PickleballWill After trying out the Ruby, I think the BD is still my favorite.
Yea I think the BD has the slight edge for me
So Will, have you heard any talk that a "full Kevlar" face will protect a honeycomb core better than carbon fiber?? i.e. crush, delam? Also the adhesive used may "bond" better to the Kevlar??
I have not to be honest but it’s an interesting idea
@@PickleballWill When watching reviewers tearing appart paddles, some faces almost "pop off" the core, others need to be "pulled' off with a ton of force. Just makes me wonder why "adhesives" are not mentioned in reviews??
Ruby looking like a red velvet cupcake
That comment just made me want this paddle 2x more 😂
Plus a trip to the bakery hahaha
Hello, Will, I’m a 3.5 player with paddle of Vatic Pro Prism Flash, it’s good at control, but don’t have too much power. I’m wondering to buy a new paddle. Do you think the double black diamond and ruby could have a big difference than prism flash with more power and still good control?
Yea I would go DBD or even go Black Diamond
Thank you so much, Will!
which paddle would you choose. The six zero ruby or the gearbox Pro Control Elongated?
Ruby
@@PickleballWill It seems that the ruby paddles are always sold out. I would buy 2 ruby paddles if they were ever available. I currently have 2 gearbox Pro Control Elongated paddles. it would also be nice if Six zero made an elongated version of the Ruby paddle.
I currently use the DBD 16mm and like the paddle and how it functions. You think shifting to ruby is a better upgrade? Or more beneficial as compared to DBD 16mm?
If you want a bit more spin and ok with sacrificing a little bit of pop, then the Ruby i think is a better option but not "that" much better
Any news if six zero will come out with a 14mm infinity?
No news on that front but from what I know about paddles and six zero, it is highly unlikely that something like that would be coming out soon since making a good edgeless thin paddle that performs well is challenging
“Spray-on grit doesn’t usually last as long as as carbon fiber face..” this is my concern with the new luxx 😟
It honestly baffles my mind that Selkirk can continue selling those paddles for so much with such crappy durability. Just goes to show brand is everything
One of the main reasons I just bought two DBD 16mms for my grandsons for Christmas. I was going to get the Luxx, Jack Sock would impress them as they played high school tennis and were top players in district and regionals. But when I saw this review by Will I chose the DBD 16mms and saved some cash. @@thehiddenfamily
What about the sound for the Ruby?
It's more muted sounding and a bit more quiet than the DBD imho
hey Will... can you pls provide some alternatives to my favorite paddle, the Selkirk Labs 002. Thx man!
Get the gearbox pro power elongated. Literally better version of the 002 in every way
Honestly man thats a tough one. Nothing out there quite feels like the 002. I think the DBD 14mm could be an option, Head Radical Tour, there is a pretty good potential option from Thrive that I hope they release early next year that could be a very good replacement, of course a heavily weighted up Power Air
@@mike_ikes3427 I have that as well as the fusion version, but I find the Labs 002 to have spin and the right amount of power like no other paddle I have ever used. The feeling of balance (how the static weight is balanced when holding the paddle) is the best that I have felt out of any paddle so far. Wondering if there is anything else out there as balanced feeling in hand as the 002?
@@PickleballWill I concur with you on that. Do you think using a hesacore grip would help with some of the vibration feedback on the 002 (my only really gripe)? Any suggestions on that? Thx again Will!!
There was a Protoss I’ve played with that would have been a great option as a replacement but doesn’t really help you. As far as hesacore grip goes I’ve not tried it so I can’t say if it would help you with the feel on your paddle
any word on if the Ruby will come in 14mm
No solid news on that but i'm sure they are prototyping it right now
Can you use a carbon eraser on the Ruby?
Yes
Proline or ruby for power?
@xxxBlindSITExxx proline original
yea I’m going to wait for 6 zero to drop that 6 inch handle lol
The other reviewers all have a different opinion on the control aspect of the Ruby, say the Infinity has best control followed by DBD the Ruby just below DBD. Perhaps you got a softer version of the paddle?
You can argue either way. You have to understand that what constitutes “control” is being able to do what you want with the ball when you want to. For me the extra spin I get from the Ruby allows me far better control over my shots and that is the main reason it’s number 1 for me. To be fair the DBD 16 and infinity are not that far behind
@@PickleballWillI have a similar play style to you and also have a tennis background. This makes a lot of sense actually. I think this thought process should be used more in the “control” description category. I think pop vs power has now been categorized across the board with people/reviewers, I think the same concept could be done with control paddles…. I know it’s hard, but I’d like to see all the best regarded reviewers get on the same page with things…. That way differences can be better understood by consumers….
@NOT_A_TOP_FAN it will get there with time im sure 👍
Do you play PB with John Kew?
I have played with him whenever we are in the same town or at the same event. He's an outstanding guy!
paddles are ridic expensive. $200. I go through them every 4-5 months.
First
So, idk if mine was an inconsistency, but my paddle came at 8.6 stock, and very head heavy. This really killed my experience, and it's the main reason why I will never main this paddle.
Dang sorry to hear that, maybe see if you can exchange it?
Did you smoke John?
Let’s just say I’ll never underestimate steady, ready John Kew ever again 😅
🤣@@PickleballWill
Anyone else tired of your expensive paddles being out of date two months after you buy them?
Happens with all sports. It sucks. 😂
Interesting. I love the DBD 14mm. started with DBD 16mm. I like the hand speed of the 14mm. Wondering if I bother trying the Ruby? @pickleballwill
Nah if you like the 14mm and can play with it at a high level I would stick with the DBD 14mm. I think the ceiling for the DBD 14mm is higher. Only switch if you are having a really tough time dropping and resetting
@@PickleballWill thanks man.