Time Stamps: 0:00 - Intro 0:23 - Jaume's Serving Position 2:35 - Jaume Critique's Ed's Serve 3:15 - The Ball Goes Where the Hand Goes 5:19 - Hip Rotation and Forward Momentum 6:25 - Fixing Ed's Error
Do you have a video on chopping backhands? The one where when the ball hits the ground, it unexpectedly goes off to the side? I can do them but I’m very inconsistent, either not being able to get over the net or it doesn’t have that satisfying side spin effect
Man Jaume is an absolute gem of a player. Watching this after seeing his recent singles games vs Ben and Federico is so useful. Thanks for the content bro!
I've been looking for a killer RUclips video on how to get a powerful, accurate serve... Look no more. Here it is. Great interview. Great instructions. And fun! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
What a great video. Such excellent understanding of what he's doing, as well as what he's trying to do, and then he has a great ability to articulate how he's doing it. Being able to verbalize your methodology is a rare trait.
Love this. Got some great tips to work on my serve. I've been playing for 4 weeks now and I feel my serve has really improved playing around with a few things. Coming from playing golf for 15+ years I have the body control and rotational balance to be comfortable swinging my paddle while cranking up the power this video helps. Now that I stand more horizontal to the back line when serving rather than vertical to the back line I feel much more power getting into the shot with my rotation.
So, I'm a Tennis player crossing over to pickleball, and I hate watching these videos more often than not, because I'm NEVER learning anything new. However, I actually learned a lot from this particular video & loved how it was a Tennis player crossing over to the pickleball world like myself... Keep up the great content! 🤟🥒💚
@edjupickleball Nope, it was Great! I just wonder if I can implement what I learned into my serve, because I drop the ball to prevent anybody from calling my serve illegal. Lol
@gg80108 What is the point of your comment? Serving is a static position. You're not getting a running start into it. Even if you could, and it wasn't against the rules, it would be even more difficult to have a great serve. Timing your mechanics if you were running AND jumping into a serve would be Ungodly Difficult! 🤣🎾 Rofl
@@masterplumbob8922 Yes serve and return and stand there and wait till they hit it to chase it. See how well that works. Everyone goes through the cannonball phase, tennis crossovers especially.
This was interesting, but I've noticed something that wasn't mentioned. When Jaume does his serves, he keeps an *open stance* (Both feet parallel to the net). This allows him to generate more power into his serves through core rotation. When you do your serves, however, your feet are not in an open stance. Instead, they are aligned *perpendicular* to the net. Because of this, most if not all the power you get comes from your *arm movement.* Your body does rotate, yes, but only as a consequence of your swing and momentum going forward rather than as a source of power generation. I think if you can work on practicing serves with an *open stance,* you can eventually add even more power into them. Keep it up!
As a former Tennis pro I really like playing Pickelball. These constant and confusing rules is over complicating the game. Like what's the difference? Waist height for a 6' 6" player is way different to someone that's 5' short. Any underhand serve should be allowed. Too many rules and constant changes are just unnecessary.
@@bchansensI was a National Jr and Sr #1 player for my country back in the 80's. Actually played in Orange Bowl and Jr Wimbledon and then D1 tennis for my University on a Tennis scholarship. Was a lot of fun.
@@subaruguy7258 we may have just missed each other. I play the Orange bowl in 1989 and 90. Then on the tour for a few years. I wouldn’t be caught dead on a Pickleball court again 😂. I played for three days w “good” players and everyone was asking me how long I’ve been playing and if they could take lessons. lol.
Hip movement being particular to the person comments by Juame were the best take aways for me as a 60 year old. I will focus on better knowing what I can actually do, like my mechanical body limitations, and will fine tune my own movements that make it work for my serve to become more aggressive but still consistent.
Hey thx for that Ed, as a Sixzero ambassador here in Australia this was super informant as well as cool because well he is our Sixzero poster boy 😂 I have a good serve, very similar style but a couple of extra tips there I can implement.
Hi Ron, beginner player here and so far I've fallen in love with love with the sport. I've been eyeing the Ruby sixzero paddle and would love to get my hands on one. When do you think it'll be back in stock? Cheers from the USA
I do a similar serve but with a semi western grip. The semi western grip rquires you to hit the serve further in front of your open stance and faster paddle speed. If you can make the adjustment, the reward is a serve speed. If you can bend your knees and use a lower paddle starting positon, you trade faster speed for more spin. These adjustments should be easy for tennis players.
Good stuff. I've recently started filming myself serve a bit and it is amazing how immediately apparent your own mistakes are when yoi watch yourself back!
This is a amazing video Ed ju! And Jaume Vich tips where super amazing! I learned so much just from this video my serve is so much better now thank you guys! Just started learning how to play!
Just the Black Diamond actually, no double. Specifically the "Amethyst Pro Edition" - I use the same one. It hits harder from the baseline (with quite a bit more spin) and has a lot of pop for speed ups and hand battles at the kitchen, but it's a bit less forgiving than the DBD if you don't have a delicate touch for softer shots. Side note - its this confusion that makes me wish Six Zero gave their paddles names that weren't so similar.
Jaume is a legend. He’s using the Black Diamond. If you’re thinking of getting one, please use his code and support him! JMV10 He’s also using a hesacore grip. His code is: JMV10
This mostly looks like a modern tennis forehand. Curious if anyone can get a next gen wrist lag to work with a volley serve. I sometimes do it on my drop serve but lose some consistency doing it....
If you follow Teacherman hitting for baseball hitting. There are a lot of similarities, he's setting up with torsion torque on his right leg for pre-loaded pop.
As a tennis background, I don’t serve open stance. Right foot forward, you get hip and shoulder rotation so you can get depth, then do the mini “brush” counter clockwise Played pickleball first time, they say my serve is hard to return. Power, depth and top spin.
After 2 other versions of serve I've been using one very similar to this for a couple of years now. At times it's almost not fair. Return team really has to pay attention or they hit into the net or deep out.. I can hit back 2 feet of court almost at will.. Freezes the Return team..
Not a pickle ball player but I see myself playing soon. Question, when he releases the ball. It seems like it moves up a bit and is not dropped. Is that right?
Correct if I'm wrong and whether this is allowed in a service move. I see palm down holding ball - good. I see upward movement of paddle during swing - good. I also see a slight upward movement of ball holding hand then ball moving upward slightly upon release... is this a legal move??
Yeah, I was looking at the slo-mo and thought I caught that. His right hand holding the ball moves upward and at ball release, the ball "floats" just a fraction of a second before dropping (because the ball/hand was moving upward when his hand releases the ball). I'm not enough of a pickleball rules scholar to know if this is within the rules. However, it seems to me that the intent of the rules regarding a drop serve is to have no upwards travel of the ball. He seems to be just on the edge of the drop serve rule. As quick as he is with his service motion, it would be very difficult to call this in real time.
Is an eastern or semi western grip better for hard topspin serves like Jaume’s? I’ve been using eastern but wondered if semi western would allow me to use the same power but keep the ball lower with more topspin. My missed serves are always out balls, not net balls.
I have that same paddle. The most insane spin of any paddle ever…. By far. It’s a ProXR. However the balance and sweeet spot is complete trash even with lead tape on it. The paddle is better suited for singles than doubles.
Watch the pros, almost none use a high-powered serve. For a few reasons 1) it's more likely to go out or hit the net and missed serves are the worst possible thing since it robs you of any point chance 2) excellent players can return a hard serve no problem. The 2-bounce requirement means that the return doesn't have to be amazing to get the volley started 3) Someone with a crazy hard serve likely can't calibrate the swing to go less hard middle or front of court so they very often just hit the ball out A consistent deep serve is all you need. Power and topspin only work against weaker players but do you really feel better racking up points against weaker players? It doesn't make your game any better
just a tennis player here and i cant tell the difference between PB serves/FH. @Ed ju, if you want to hit that serve back, my guess is that you need to stay lower and dont open your shoulders so much.
Correct, if this was in the PPA Masters in the Pro Division specifically, this would be illegal. For anyone that does not have a 6.0+ DUPR or plans on competing in pro PPA events, you’ll likely never have to worry about that rule.
In table tennis there was a change of paddle material from sand paper to a rubberized surface that changed the game. Is this the same thing where the surface material better grips the ball?
@@edjupickleball I agree with @eh4236, Borderline Semi-western. As a tennis player playing PB now. This was a good basic lesson on tennis topspin forehands and basically how a coach feeds the ball to intermediate/advanced players. I hope @edjupickleball explains how much practice is needed to not hit the ball into the ground on your own side with this grip. Also, the need to immediately switch your grip after the serve. Please also mention how this could lead to wrist injury and tennis elbow (especially if you're new to the grip and wrist brushing motion).
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Jaume's Serving Position
2:35 - Jaume Critique's Ed's Serve
3:15 - The Ball Goes Where the Hand Goes
5:19 - Hip Rotation and Forward Momentum
6:25 - Fixing Ed's Error
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Do you have a video on chopping backhands? The one where when the ball hits the ground, it unexpectedly goes off to the side? I can do them but I’m very inconsistent, either not being able to get over the net or it doesn’t have that satisfying side spin effect
😯Ed's jaw drop at 3:57 ... to 4:14 is Priceless!!!!!
Man Jaume is an absolute gem of a player. Watching this after seeing his recent singles games vs Ben and Federico is so useful. Thanks for the content bro!
I've been looking for a killer RUclips video on how to get a powerful, accurate serve... Look no more. Here it is. Great interview. Great instructions. And fun! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
Dude if you played tennis at any decent level it’s not that hard. It’s just a hard top spin motion low to high 🙄🙄🙄
One of the more valuable lessons I have seen on serving and interesting.. Thanks for sharing.
Love watching Jaume play, great attitude and quick as hell…. Look forward to seeing him for a long time.
What a great video. Such excellent understanding of what he's doing, as well as what he's trying to do, and then he has a great ability to articulate how he's doing it. Being able to verbalize your methodology is a rare trait.
Love this. Got some great tips to work on my serve. I've been playing for 4 weeks now and I feel my serve has really improved playing around with a few things. Coming from playing golf for 15+ years I have the body control and rotational balance to be comfortable swinging my paddle while cranking up the power this video helps. Now that I stand more horizontal to the back line when serving rather than vertical to the back line I feel much more power getting into the shot with my rotation.
So, I'm a Tennis player crossing over to pickleball, and I hate watching these videos more often than not, because I'm NEVER learning anything new. However, I actually learned a lot from this particular video & loved how it was a Tennis player crossing over to the pickleball world like myself... Keep up the great content! 🤟🥒💚
first half of that comment had me sweatin. glad the video was helpful 👍
@edjupickleball Nope, it was Great! I just wonder if I can implement what I learned into my serve, because I drop the ball to prevent anybody from calling my serve illegal. Lol
Non of these videos actually show how to move to the right spot on the court. They are all about a static position shot which the serve fits right in.
@gg80108 What is the point of your comment? Serving is a static position. You're not getting a running start into it. Even if you could, and it wasn't against the rules, it would be even more difficult to have a great serve. Timing your mechanics if you were running AND jumping into a serve would be Ungodly Difficult! 🤣🎾 Rofl
@@masterplumbob8922 Yes serve and return and stand there and wait till they hit it to chase it. See how well that works. Everyone goes through the cannonball phase, tennis crossovers especially.
And Ed, you did a great job absorbing Jaume's lesson, and translating it into your own serve. Very impressive!
Super useful advice. Thank you Ed! quick question: who's using the Oliver-Sport paddle? I'd love to hear your thoughts
Became a fan of JMV because of this. So much knowledge dropped here. 👍🏼
So cool to see him break it down like this, thanks Ed
Outstanding editing to really demonstrate the differences.
Totally! Great slow mo and cutting between different angles.
This was interesting, but I've noticed something that wasn't mentioned.
When Jaume does his serves, he keeps an *open stance* (Both feet parallel to the net). This allows him to generate more power into his serves through core rotation.
When you do your serves, however, your feet are not in an open stance. Instead, they are aligned *perpendicular* to the net. Because of this, most if not all the power you get comes from your *arm movement.* Your body does rotate, yes, but only as a consequence of your swing and momentum going forward rather than as a source of power generation.
I think if you can work on practicing serves with an *open stance,* you can eventually add even more power into them.
Keep it up!
Insane, he just taught us how every tennis player hits a forehand…amazing
As a former Tennis pro I really like playing Pickelball. These constant and confusing rules is over complicating the game. Like what's the difference? Waist height for a 6' 6" player is way different to someone that's 5' short. Any underhand serve should be allowed. Too many rules and constant changes are just unnecessary.
Sweet. Did you play on the ATP Tour?
@@bchansensI was a National Jr and Sr #1 player for my country back in the 80's. Actually played in Orange Bowl and Jr Wimbledon and then D1 tennis for my University on a Tennis scholarship. Was a lot of fun.
I 100% agree.
Just allow tennis style serve in all Pro level matches . Problem solved.
@@subaruguy7258 we may have just missed each other. I play the Orange bowl in 1989 and 90. Then on the tour for a few years. I wouldn’t be caught dead on a Pickleball court again 😂. I played for three days w “good” players and everyone was asking me how long I’ve been playing and if they could take lessons. lol.
Hip movement being particular to the person comments by Juame were the best take aways for me as a 60 year old. I will focus on better knowing what I can actually do, like my mechanical body limitations, and will fine tune my own movements that make it work for my serve to become more aggressive but still consistent.
Hey thx for that Ed, as a Sixzero ambassador here in Australia this was super informant as well as cool because well he is our Sixzero poster boy 😂 I have a good serve, very similar style but a couple of extra tips there I can implement.
Hi Ron, beginner player here and so far I've fallen in love with love with the sport. I've been eyeing the Ruby sixzero paddle and would love to get my hands on one. When do you think it'll be back in stock?
Cheers from the USA
@@topdogsean1 G'day I believe the next batch of Ruby's will be on Sunday 28th April 6pm New York time
Thanks for the slow-mo. I wish everyone would do that
I do a similar serve but with a semi western grip. The semi western grip rquires you to hit the serve further in front of your open stance and faster paddle speed. If you can make the adjustment, the reward is a serve speed. If you can bend your knees and use a lower paddle starting positon, you trade faster speed for more spin. These adjustments should be easy for tennis players.
I do the same but from a more traditional tennis serving stance and add the hips into it for MORE power.
Finally found some serving information that will be helpful! Great stuff!
This is my favorite Serve video!!
Good stuff. I've recently started filming myself serve a bit and it is amazing how immediately apparent your own mistakes are when yoi watch yourself back!
I've watched this video over and over. I love this shxt
Thanks Jaume and Ed Ju, this video is totally helpful. Great advices, explanations and good questions! Many thanks again!
Nice informative video by a great player that actually has fun competing at the highest levels...win or lose. Keep getting it done JMV!
Ed "Great" content and thank you for sharing this. Jaume had me after the pushups in the Final and then saying "I am here to stay." He is not kidding.
Ed - your reactions to his demonstration of his serve is awesome!!
Thanks for the great practical tips!! 💡👍🏼
Excellent clip...big props to JMV!
This is a amazing video Ed ju! And Jaume Vich tips where super amazing! I learned so much just from this video my serve is so much better now thank you guys! Just started learning how to play!
Glad you found it helpful! 🙌🏼 welcome to pickleball
That is an awesome vid. As in intermediate player I am trying to get away from the bowling alley serve and this helped me so much!
Very nice!! Love the instructions!!
oh hells yeah i got my popcorn ready !!!!!!! thanks ed that lesson is gold jaume is awesome
This dude has some explosive technique! Very cool info and strats for us to work on.
Ed, your serve got much better at the end. You were more relaxed all the way through instead of tightening up at the end.
100% it’s changed the way I serve big now. I truly never knew I was serving inefficiently like that before he brought it up.
This is a perfect serve with such little effort!
Jaume is a beast, and I like that he's one of the pros using a DBD. :)
Just the Black Diamond actually, no double. Specifically the "Amethyst Pro Edition" - I use the same one. It hits harder from the baseline (with quite a bit more spin) and has a lot of pop for speed ups and hand battles at the kitchen, but it's a bit less forgiving than the DBD if you don't have a delicate touch for softer shots.
Side note - its this confusion that makes me wish Six Zero gave their paddles names that weren't so similar.
The pro model has the original face material as the first dbd. It's a little more gritty and definitely has alot of pop and spin.
Jaume is a legend. He’s using the Black Diamond. If you’re thinking of getting one, please use his code and support him!
JMV10
He’s also using a hesacore grip. His code is:
JMV10
@@edjupickleball That's awesome! I've got the same setup with the hesacore on mine too. :)
Love the slow mo. Shows a lot. Thank you
This mostly looks like a modern tennis forehand. Curious if anyone can get a next gen wrist lag to work with a volley serve. I sometimes do it on my drop serve but lose some consistency doing it....
It’s standard kinetic chain with top spin.
He ready for tennis.
If you follow Teacherman hitting for baseball hitting. There are a lot of similarities, he's setting up with torsion torque on his right leg for pre-loaded pop.
Super useful advice. Thank you!
Look forward to more collaboration tutorial videos with Jaumem!
As a tennis background, I don’t serve open stance. Right foot forward, you get hip and shoulder rotation so you can get depth, then do the mini “brush” counter clockwise
Played pickleball first time, they say my serve is hard to return. Power, depth and top spin.
Thx for the video. I see these tips helping me gain power and speed.
He holds it at the end and whips his wrist too. I like his paddle much better than the Selkirk.
Agreed, The six zero paddles are perfect
it is always great to learn new tips, Thanks Ed
When he said “the court is kinda short”
I felt that
Ed great videos as usual I have a question, what grip is Jaume using when serving & does it change straight after the serve?
He does switch his grip. We actually filmed a second video where he goes super in depth about his grip. Working hard to edit that ASAP for you guys
This is what experienced, accomplished tennis players do!
This is an exceptionally useful clip
There is another guy james who was voted best serve. He looks like he is throwing his weight and jumps a bit. Is jumping allowed ?
Isn’t contact made above the waist which I believe is illegal
Wow, seems like a really cool dude. Great tips for sure! Thanks for the video.
After 2 other versions of serve I've been using one very similar to this for a couple of years now.
At times it's almost not fair. Return team really has to pay attention or they hit into the net or deep out..
I can hit back 2 feet of court almost at will..
Freezes the Return team..
I miss playing tennis cause I like smacking the ball hard with top spin with my forehand and backhand and hear a good pop.😁
Not a pickle ball player but I see myself playing soon. Question, when he releases the ball. It seems like it moves up a bit and is not dropped. Is that right?
Slow mo at start of vid shows contact at the waist? Maybe the hip? Does the service rules ever get called on you?
This was a great demonstration!!
Correct if I'm wrong and whether this is allowed in a service move. I see palm down holding ball - good. I see upward movement of paddle during swing - good.
I also see a slight upward movement of ball holding hand then ball moving upward slightly upon release... is this a legal move??
Yeah, I was looking at the slo-mo and thought I caught that. His right hand holding the ball moves upward and at ball release, the ball "floats" just a fraction of a second before dropping (because the ball/hand was moving upward when his hand releases the ball). I'm not enough of a pickleball rules scholar to know if this is within the rules. However, it seems to me that the intent of the rules regarding a drop serve is to have no upwards travel of the ball. He seems to be just on the edge of the drop serve rule. As quick as he is with his service motion, it would be very difficult to call this in real time.
Thanks for sharing your lesson....you have great content
I agree fantastic teacher
What grip does Jaume use for his serve? It looked like a continental toward Eastern.
He lifted the ball up on the serve.
Needs to just drop it.
That is ‘not’ in the USA Pickleball official rules.
“Can I show you my hip movement”is crazy.
Thank you for the instruction. I will just need lots of repetitions.
It's replicating the advantage of the over hand while keeping the mechanics below the waist.
Is an eastern or semi western grip better for hard topspin serves like Jaume’s? I’ve been using eastern but wondered if semi western would allow me to use the same power but keep the ball lower with more topspin. My missed serves are always out balls, not net balls.
Hey Ed! Can we send you our edgeless Kevlar to try out?
For tennis players it looks like a semi-western grip forehand. Fairly simple
He's slapping it
He's brushing it...standard topspin forehand...semi-western grip. No slap...his wrist is pronating, not breaking...like a slap, big difference.
Ping pong, tennis, and every other real racquet sport says hold my beer...😅
The education of a pickleballer
*edjucation fixed it for ya
Please explain what your numbers superimposed on the screen mean.
Great information
Fantastic
Great content!!! Thank you.
best pickleball video ive seen so far
I have that same paddle. The most insane spin of any paddle ever…. By far. It’s a ProXR. However the balance and sweeet spot is complete trash even with lead tape on it. The paddle is better suited for singles than doubles.
Watch the pros, almost none use a high-powered serve. For a few reasons
1) it's more likely to go out or hit the net and missed serves are the worst possible thing since it robs you of any point chance
2) excellent players can return a hard serve no problem. The 2-bounce requirement means that the return doesn't have to be amazing to get the volley started
3) Someone with a crazy hard serve likely can't calibrate the swing to go less hard middle or front of court so they very often just hit the ball out
A consistent deep serve is all you need. Power and topspin only work against weaker players but do you really feel better racking up points against weaker players? It doesn't make your game any better
He stole that from me. I’ve been hitting that serve for 2 years. 💪🏼
any established tennis coach or player can do that. hes just hitting a driving topspin forehand instead of the average underhand serve
As a tennis player, in summary, the serve in pickleball is if you’re feeding a tennis ball to start a rally. Pretty basic.
thank u!
explosive!
Way to go jaume. Beat ben Johns. Amazing
just a tennis player here and i cant tell the difference between PB serves/FH. @Ed ju, if you want to hit that serve back, my guess is that you need to stay lower and dont open your shoulders so much.
PPA Masters Beta illegal since his hand moves up prior to drop correct?
Correct, if this was in the PPA Masters in the Pro Division specifically, this would be illegal.
For anyone that does not have a 6.0+ DUPR or plans on competing in pro PPA events, you’ll likely never have to worry about that rule.
Sick video !
What grip is he using? Semi-western?
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Jaume serve is fluid and looks more natural.
How fast is that serve? Probably a lot slower than an average tennis serve.
What are your paddles made of?
In table tennis there was a change of paddle material from sand paper to a rubberized surface that changed the game. Is this the same thing where the surface material better grips the ball?
This happens like every other month in pickleball right now lol
@@chadselph6946 and the paddles do not last if you are playing weekly at the intermediate level and smacking the ball when you get the chance.
❤Jaume!
Is he using a eastern forehand grip when serving? Looks like borderline semi western. I come from a tennis background as well.
We actually recorded a second video where he goes super in depth into his grip- working hard to edit that ASAP for you guys.
@@edjupickleball I agree with @eh4236, Borderline Semi-western. As a tennis player playing PB now. This was a good basic lesson on tennis topspin forehands and basically how a coach feeds the ball to intermediate/advanced players. I hope @edjupickleball explains how much practice is needed to not hit the ball into the ground on your own side with this grip. Also, the need to immediately switch your grip after the serve. Please also mention how this could lead to wrist injury and tennis elbow (especially if you're new to the grip and wrist brushing motion).
It’s called a tennis ATP forehand! 😂
Perfect!!!