Man, That's a Mean Motor 🛵. Great 👍 video as usual, you do a great job of showing the technical in a way even I can understand. Awesome setup, keep em coming, Brother. 👍😎🚲✌️
I love my Mega Moto 212, I have right at 100 hours on mine. Have done over 70mph, trail rides, street drives, etc. Still rides like new. Imho, the best mini bike frame there is.
@@cleanname4439 The stock 10 x 53 gearing. You can buy a 9 x 53 to shorten the gearing easily. Doesn't need to be taller than the stock setup. I did 76 mph at 8,050 rpm on mine.
4:28 Easy trick for those who haven't swapped out a belt before, if you can't read the words, it's backwards. Been rewatching your vids on putting this bike together, have one on the way that should be here between today and Monday :). Thanks as always for putting these videos up.
This is the same engine I bought a year ago, I love mine! I just wish I could cut down on the vibration some, because the vibration broke the earlobes off of my flywheel clear cover, it cracked them after a few weeks, then I just bought another clear cover and it's started to crack one of the ears. They just don't hold up, they need to make better clear flywheel covers that are more durable and won't crack as easy!
Im wanting to do this same build but for aggressive trail riding. Question is do you recommend this setup and would you advise on a bigger rear sprocket for the trails. I really dont need to go above 45 mph for top speed. Just need the torque to get up nasty hills. Thanks
I wish they build a 6 speed Manuel transmission that bolts to the output shaft, and mounting holes. It wouldn't take much to design, and it would definitely sell a lot.
These engines don't come with any sort of protection against horizontal stress on the crank (like a thrust bearing) and thus a gearbox would cause issues. But yes, I agree, having a gearbox would be awesome. Even just a 2 or 3 speed gearbox would be a game changer.
@@silverbell800 as long as it's a lightweight setup. A centrifical clutch puts more tension on the shaft than a manual every would. People have put 6 speed transmission on a jack shaft on them. So a Harley is set up the same way? Just an output shaft, belt driven to a gearbox.
@@Black66 thanks and your mini bike builds are really cool and nice. I like the black one with the chrome side over that does 70mph that’s gotta be quite the ride! Keep up the good builds
Where would you get that stroker crank? I have the exact same build but with a 48 tooth on the back 1.3 rockers , hot coil , fuel pump and 28 mm flatside and do about 75 ! These engines are dope asf
meh. i have a stock 212 hemi on a coleman ct200u with a $50 tav30 , jetted carb , 60 tooth rear sprocket and 9 tooth front runs over 48 mph and will flip the front wheel up @ will. i don't see the benefit of the $850 motor and juggernaut for maybe 5 mph top end ? Please explain ?
Check out the channel and playlists. The channel is about trying different engines and part combos with a few builds thrown in from time to time. Not every engine or part is going to be the best, fastest, or quickest. But it's fun trying. Thanks for watching!
Any idea what the difference is between the 225 performance motor you used and the 225RS internally? They never seem to have this in stock so I was thinking of getting the 225RS long block and using same flywheel and carb. Appreciate your thoughts and thanks for making awesome content.
Thanks! Same engine internally both have the forged rod and piston with the same cam. I kinda like the RS better because I could use whatever carb I want.
I have the same bike with the 212 of course just a quick question just bought it a few days ago install the header pipe but for some reason i feel air coming out in that area where the header bolts too. It has the gasket no burrs or anything, but wondering if that is normal if not what can i do to fix it.
For some reason i brought the same engine today and it runs nothing like yours! For one it takes 20 pulls to get it started ! Then it balgs when im trying to give it gas at half throttle help please?
It is easy to fowl a plug. I did when I first got my 228r It was hard to start and wouldn't stay running. I cleaned the plug (ngk) and it started right up. I also don't use that dumb fuel pump.
Mine produces 18.686 HP, because they put it on the dyno, but mine has the 24mm flat-side Mikuni carburetor, I told them to change it before they shipped it to me, and before the put it on the dyno. I still have the chart they sent me with it.
i just built the same bike whent with a 212 tillotson stage 1 for now thinking built 225 but anyways the questions is what would yall recomend for gearing stock its a 10t at the jackshaft and 53t sprocket at rear. should i go 12t at jack and 60t at rear any sugestions looking for faster speed on the street ps jugernaut driver on its way
Why not mount the fuel tank on the rack behind the seat? Looks like a good spot to me. You’re definitely gonna need to support that pipe before it cracks.
they dont sell it together but you can by a mini bike cable or if lucky a cycle cable and if you dont have soldering tanks and all that shit you can buy a cheap cordless soldering kit.I bought this one and worked for me so you save money i think it was $30 bucks its called Weller Cordless Soldering Iron 4.5 W 1 pk give it 45 sec to heat up and use thin wire mine came with wire.i never soldered before in my life and i learned quick by doing this but make sure you measure that cable and dont make it to short or else you gotta buy a new cable.Funny story ill tell you is i soldered my cable and it worked but the carb inside the cable wasn't lifting up the needle all the way and i found out that it was a screw i tightened that when you hit the throttle it hits the screw so its like a speed screw and the needle didn't go all the way up so i bought another cable and looked and i adjusted and never had to solder lol.
Love your channel but you maybe sharing miss information… I have a 228R tillotson and I was told by the company that my 228 Maybe makes 17hp so how does a 225 make 17hp with similar parts besides stroke…. Gopowersports has a history of inflating their numbers… and (I know ) who provides the 236cc stroker kit
According to GPS the 225 makes over 17HP on their dyno but everyone will have a different power output with the same engine due to the altitude they live at, atmospheric pressure and temperature variations etc. It will never be the same for everyone anyway. I don't get too caught up on dyno numbers myself. I like real world numbers. EC carbs has a nice stroker kit for the 72MM block. Thanks for watching the videos.
@@cuzexa8612 Check out the playlists and the micro bike playlist. There are a lot of mods for a Coleman 3 horse ruclips.net/video/xSX1JvRi1RQ/видео.html
So I took my governor outta my Tillotson 212 I put everything back together and now it’s not even trying to start anyone know the problem? Did I not put it together right
I have pretty much built the same bike and motor..only I just bolted up the stock Tillotson gas tank...the inexpensive factory one that GPS used to offer...the tank has an angled fuel line fitting, that actually clears the racing blocks extra reinforcement, so it mounts normally..and it only cost a 1/4 of what that spun aluminum tank does, but of course it doesn't look as cool, and doesn't seem to be available at the moment what size carb was that? I'm using the GPS 28mm round slide Mikuni clone and unless you plan on swapping the tires to some knobbies, stay out of the sand...the stock tires are terrible in loose or deep sand
I built the e-bike I have. Check out the Mega Moto e-bike playlist for the build. I will do more in the future. ruclips.net/video/n2ao1tYpnfY/видео.html
Dude I love your vids and the effort you put into them and your builds, thank you so much for making this content🙏👍
Thanks you! Thanks for watching the videos!
Just got the tillotson 225, will my Coleman bt200uex gas tank work with the new tillotson?
Man, That's a Mean Motor 🛵. Great 👍 video as usual, you do a great job of showing the technical in a way even I can understand. Awesome setup, keep em coming, Brother. 👍😎🚲✌️
Thanks 👍
Awesome Video!! almost 10k congrats you deserve it! been watchin you for a while
Thank you! Thanks for watching the videos !
You Bet!
That’s basically my dream mini bike!
Cool video! That looked like fun project. 👍👍
Man your definitely my inspiration…. Awesome videos and knowledge 💪💪💪
Thanks! Glad I could help .
Will a tillotson 225 fit a mega moto 80/105? Even with the mount kit i'm unsure.
Check out the small block installation on the Mega Moto playlist ruclips.net/video/wHIKyVU4oxw/видео.html
I love my Mega Moto 212,
I have right at 100 hours on mine. Have done over 70mph, trail rides, street drives, etc. Still rides like new.
Imho, the best mini bike frame there is.
Definitely the best street frame! With front/rear disc brakes and street tires, these bikes are amazing.
what engine and gearing do u have. i just ordered one and can’t wait to mod it. i’m probably going to put a stage 2 predator 224 on it.
@@cleanname4439 The stock 10 x 53 gearing.
You can buy a 9 x 53 to shorten the gearing easily. Doesn't need to be taller than the stock setup. I did 76 mph at 8,050 rpm on mine.
4:28
Easy trick for those who haven't swapped out a belt before, if you can't read the words, it's backwards.
Been rewatching your vids on putting this bike together, have one on the way that should be here between today and Monday :).
Thanks as always for putting these videos up.
Great video sir , bike rips !
Thanks! Ya, seems to run good for no tuning straight out of the box.
@@Black66 Yup , sounds good
AWESOME MAN, you need to rip that over to Pawnee Park so I can see that thing..
This was the exact kit I was looking at
Hey man awesome video, that's a great motor nice job man ✌️
Thanks!
Such a great hobby I've been at it myself 30 years just like a kid I'll never grow up... it's great fun!!!
This is the same engine I bought a year ago, I love mine! I just wish I could cut down on the vibration some, because the vibration broke the earlobes off of my flywheel clear cover, it cracked them after a few weeks, then I just bought another clear cover and it's started to crack one of the ears. They just don't hold up, they need to make better clear flywheel covers that are more durable and won't crack as easy!
Im wanting to do this same build but for aggressive trail riding. Question is do you recommend this setup and would you advise on a bigger rear sprocket for the trails. I really dont need to go above 45 mph for top speed. Just need the torque to get up nasty hills. Thanks
I wish they build a 6 speed Manuel transmission that bolts to the output shaft, and mounting holes. It wouldn't take much to design, and it would definitely sell a lot.
That would be quite a build
These engines don't come with any sort of protection against horizontal stress on the crank (like a thrust bearing) and thus a gearbox would cause issues. But yes, I agree, having a gearbox would be awesome. Even just a 2 or 3 speed gearbox would be a game changer.
@@silverbell800 You can take sat a 70 cc pitbike engine a turn it into just a transmission
@@silverbell800 as long as it's a lightweight setup. A centrifical clutch puts more tension on the shaft than a manual every would. People have put 6 speed transmission on a jack shaft on them. So a Harley is set up the same way? Just an output shaft, belt driven to a gearbox.
Use a Harley Davidson trans. They use a primary chain to attach
another sweet build
Awsome bike black 66! I just picked up another bike today. Got a coleman bt200x for cheap. Now what to do with it???😄
Another great build! Do you think you can get this one to go 70MPH like your blue Iszu?
Yes, I do.
Awesome video bro great build wonder wat your next build is maybe a chopper 👀👀
Thanks! A chopper would be fun.
Well done, o you have a hard time taking off the gas cap and how long does your gas last?
Thanks! The bike now has a bigger tank ruclips.net/video/M0HLe8bb6kE/видео.html
Man you have the most awesome strips to run on i'm so jealous lol😁👍🏽in your opinion do you think this motor is better than the 212 ghost?
definitely it’s more than double the price
This engine is in a different stratosphere than the ghost. Easily making 16-17hp vs ghost at 10hp
What kind of speedometer app do you use that does 0-30 times? I have an app but it only does 0-60 and 1/4 mile times
I use digiHUD on my phone along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 times. Thanks for watching.
@@Black66 thanks and your mini bike builds are really cool and nice. I like the black one with the chrome side over that does 70mph that’s gotta be quite the ride! Keep up the good builds
I used half a core from a electrical union for the throttle cable stopper
How much will you charge to build an moto mini bike 223 or tell me where you purchased all the parts, I want to build one just like yours.
The links for the parts are in the description of the video. Thanks.
Just ordered the Tork Zilla from OMB warehouse for my 225
Did GPS donate the 225?
Where would you get that stroker crank? I have the exact same build but with a 48 tooth on the back 1.3 rockers , hot coil , fuel pump and 28 mm flatside and do about 75 ! These engines are dope asf
You can get it EC carburetors . Here is the link www.eccarburetors.com/236-tillotson-stroker-kit
meh. i have a stock 212 hemi on a coleman ct200u with a $50 tav30 , jetted carb , 60 tooth rear sprocket and 9 tooth front runs over 48 mph and will flip the front wheel up @ will. i don't see the benefit of the $850 motor and juggernaut for maybe 5 mph top end ? Please explain ?
Check out the channel and playlists. The channel is about trying different engines and part combos with a few builds thrown in from time to time. Not every engine or part is going to be the best, fastest, or quickest. But it's fun trying. Thanks for watching!
Hey did you participate in that race recently that was put on by gopower sports
How has the cvt held up with the 225. I have the mm212 but still haven’t ordered the engine
No problems at all.
are 225 engines larger dimensionally from a 212 engine? im thinking about putting one on my doodlebug
There the same size. No problem fitting on a Doodlebug.
@@Black66 thanks so much for the fast reply!!
Just imagine if he has street tires on it. he would really will be up to speed in more control!!!❤
Great videos as always bro quick question what’s your thoughts and take on the 236 stroker I’m thinking about ordering that kit
I think it would be a rocket ship with a 236 stroker kit.
@@Black66 ok thanks I think I’m about to shoot for it
Whats a good rear sprocket for my mb200 trailmaster i have 225 tillotson on it! Plus i have three different sprockets to choose from 46, 56, 60 ?
I think it would depend on how fast or quick you want it to be. Usually, smaller gear for faster top end and bigger for quicker bottom end.
Trying to get both top and bottom! I have the 46 tooth on there right now👍
Any idea what the difference is between the 225 performance motor you used and the 225RS internally? They never seem to have this in stock so I was thinking of getting the 225RS long block and using same flywheel and carb. Appreciate your thoughts and thanks for making awesome content.
Thanks! Same engine internally both have the forged rod and piston with the same cam. I kinda like the RS better because I could use whatever carb I want.
@@Black66 that is the route I will take then. Thanks for the advice and reply
I have the same bike with the 212 of course just a quick question just bought it a few days ago install the header pipe but for some reason i feel air coming out in that area where the header bolts too. It has the gasket no burrs or anything, but wondering if that is normal if not what can i do to fix it.
Maybe weld a little lip on the front bracket so the clamp doesn't slide off
You should get a Robertson torque tubes loop exhaust
That would be cool. I would like to get one.
what gas does the 225 take 93 non ethanol right?
For some reason i brought the same engine today and it runs nothing like yours! For one it takes 20 pulls to get it started ! Then it balgs when im trying to give it gas at half throttle help please?
You might have to jet the carb. Also, I use an NGK or an E3 spark plug, and it will usually start up the first or second pull.
@@Black66 ok i jet the carb and it still takes 30 pulls to start ill try that spark plug
It is easy to fowl a plug.
I did when I first got my 228r It was hard to start and wouldn't stay running. I cleaned the plug (ngk) and it started right up. I also don't use that dumb fuel pump.
@@zachariekelley i started the engine up out of the box it shouldn't take 30 pulls each time i start it lol
are you using the choke. what slot is the needle in. what main jet.
Love ur vids 🔥🔥👏
How fast does this motor go out of the box?
Mine produces 18.686 HP, because they put it on the dyno, but mine has the 24mm flat-side Mikuni carburetor, I told them to change it before they shipped it to me, and before the put it on the dyno. I still have the chart they sent me with it.
That is awesome! Great engine!
i just built the same bike whent with a 212 tillotson stage 1 for now thinking built 225 but anyways the questions is what would yall recomend for gearing stock its a 10t at the jackshaft and 53t sprocket at rear. should i go 12t at jack and 60t at rear any sugestions looking for faster speed on the street ps jugernaut driver on its way
Why not mount the fuel tank on the rack behind the seat? Looks like a good spot to me. You’re definitely gonna need to support that pipe before it cracks.
I like it when it cracks. Gives me something to weld...😀
@@Black66 😂
Cool build cool like 😎
225 vs the 212 coming soon ???????
Is that Paul in background
17 hp big jump in power
Tip for lubrication. I use 1.5 Oz Lucas with zink. 1.5 Oz motor kote. 13 Oz 10w30 full synthetic.
That's not a tip. It's just your choice of a mixture that you use.
I use fr3 by hotshots secret myself watched the proof in a handful of gas engine and diesels amongst our family
how do u make the cable end they have a kit u can lay the cable in to sauder a end on it?
they dont sell it together but you can by a mini bike cable or if lucky a cycle cable and if you dont have soldering tanks and all that shit you can buy a cheap cordless soldering kit.I bought this one and worked for me so you save money i think it was $30 bucks its called Weller Cordless Soldering Iron 4.5 W 1 pk give it 45 sec to heat up and use thin wire mine came with wire.i never soldered before in my life and i learned quick by doing this but make sure you measure that cable and dont make it to short or else you gotta buy a new cable.Funny story ill tell you is i soldered my cable and it worked but the carb inside the cable wasn't lifting up the needle all the way and i found out that it was a screw i tightened that when you hit the throttle it hits the screw so its like a speed screw and the needle didn't go all the way up so i bought another cable and looked and i adjusted and never had to solder lol.
You're a genius. Thx for the videos really help on my project
Thanks! Glad to help
Do you have a trailmaster MB 200? I was interested in your thoughts on it.
No, I don't have one. I had a Massimo MB200. I like the Trailmaster better because of the rear suspension.
Love your channel but you maybe sharing miss information… I have a 228R tillotson and I was told by the company that my 228 Maybe makes 17hp so how does a 225 make 17hp with similar parts besides stroke…. Gopowersports has a history of inflating their numbers… and (I know ) who provides the 236cc stroker kit
According to GPS the 225 makes over 17HP on their dyno but everyone will have a different power output with the same engine due to the altitude they live at, atmospheric pressure and temperature variations etc. It will never be the same for everyone anyway. I don't get too caught up on dyno numbers myself. I like real world numbers.
EC carbs has a nice stroker kit for the 72MM block. Thanks for watching the videos.
Just curios man u located in kingman?
Yes, Kingman
@@Black66 oh ok sweet my buddy picked up a coleman 100 cc and was curios if you had any upgrades for it
@@cuzexa8612 Check out the playlists and the micro bike playlist. There are a lot of mods for a Coleman 3 horse ruclips.net/video/xSX1JvRi1RQ/видео.html
@@Black66 ok thanks do you have anything laying around for it?
What welder is that?
Lincoln electric Pro Mig 140
3 inch piston is where the power is just saying. Good work
What oil did you put in it
I'm using all kinds of different stuff. Amsoil, Royal purple, Kart racing oil etc. Depends what I have on hand in a given video.
you should put a 212 on the micro bike and make it go 80
So I took my governor outta my Tillotson 212 I put everything back together and now it’s not even trying to start anyone know the problem? Did I not put it together right
set the valves
bout time this bike gets the engine it needs lol yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (down the street)
I have pretty much built the same bike and motor..only I just bolted up the stock Tillotson gas tank...the inexpensive factory one that GPS used to offer...the tank has an angled fuel line fitting, that actually clears the racing blocks extra reinforcement, so it mounts normally..and it only cost a 1/4 of what that spun aluminum tank does, but of course it doesn't look as cool, and doesn't seem to be available at the moment
what size carb was that? I'm using the GPS 28mm round slide Mikuni clone
and unless you plan on swapping the tires to some knobbies, stay out of the sand...the stock tires are terrible in loose or deep sand
I😀 love riding in the sand with street tires! It makes it fun! Not the same old boring ride.
Do you ever think about messing with electric bikes like buy or build yourself
I know you have an e minibike
I built the e-bike I have. Check out the Mega Moto e-bike playlist for the build. I will do more in the future. ruclips.net/video/n2ao1tYpnfY/видео.html
Where you get the kill switch
Links for the parts used are in the description of the videos. Thanks for watching!
Oh yeah duh lol😂 I see it thanks so much
god that thing is So sexified
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I think my mm80 with stage 1 is just as fast 212 tilly
Yes, it probably is. It is a lot lighter bike.
Check out the Mega Moto playlist for many Mega Moto 80 videos !
2000$+ 🤔