I always love to see how people customise or embellish upon the basic Wharram designs - yours looks very comfortable, lots of spaces for folks to get some rest out of the spray & wind.
Fantastic video. Awesome looking rig. I would imagine lots of advantages, especially with the central steering pod. Shame about the mast breakage. Interested in how you dury rigged it & what eventual configuration you fitted to overcome this problem in future ?
I plan on building an over 40 footer Cat to sail around the world in. In short(but not to short haha) how would you describe your experience and if you had the chance, would you want to sail indefinitely?!
Colaaah Hello Good Luck! As far as i can say it is a learning by doing experience. It is important to have a lot of time and money. :) Enjoy your freedom!
No I'm not the new owner. A friend of mine. He lives on the boat with his family. Why did the mast snap? Probably a construction mistake, and heavy conditions...
Jonathan Bonsels thanks for the reply. We at Junkrigassociation were wondering what happened to Apatiki. I learned there was a concern with the masts being too thin walled for the stresses. Another 46 Tiki was built with masts about 5 times as strong. No worries there.
Jonathan Bonsels → At 2:08 in the video: Did that catamaran have a "biplane rig"? {Or WHATEVER it is called.} That is, one mast in EACH HULL, versus one or more masts along the centerline.
+Jonathan Bonsels I surfed when I lived in Norcal. When asked that question I said "no, but they saw me!". Getting bumped on a board but not knowing what it was is spooky.
Jonathan Bonsels No, it was a design error. One inner sleeve was missing (unlike in the construction plans), so the stiffness was not balanced. There was nothing wrong with our sailing.
Most of the way you had too much sail up, and your ropes and blocks were underdimensioned. The difference between sailing monohulls and cats are that in monohulls you set sail for the average wind, ind cats you set sail for the gusts, as multihulls can't uptain the power in the gusts like monohulls, as monohulls will bend and sway in a way cats can't. So this energy will be uptained in the rig, the mast and the boat. You sailed like you were sailing an American Cup boat. You broke it. A good video to learn how NOT to do... Thanks for the upload...
For an americas cup i think it wasen't enough. We constantly adapted the sails to the changing conitions. But yea that rig on that boat makes sailing more difficult than I thought. Was a good experience! 😉
@@jesper1406 Yes and no. Junk rigs are less efficient than a bermuda rig, so they're going to carry more sail under all circumstances than a bermuda, regardless of the hull.
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I always love to see how people customise or embellish upon the basic Wharram designs - yours looks very comfortable, lots of spaces for folks to get some rest out of the spray & wind.
Very tidy and shipshape 👌
Well done!
Thank you for a nice video, hope the mast loss was not too stressful.
I like that twin mast junk-rig.
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Fantastic video. Awesome looking rig. I would imagine lots of advantages, especially with the central steering pod. Shame about the mast breakage. Interested in how you dury rigged it & what eventual configuration you fitted to overcome this problem in future ?
Which design is this from the collection of the genius designer
continueity and stabil on camera
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What rig is this, I love these Wharram cats I've not seen 2 the same yet
I believe it's a type of twin junk rig
is that a Tiki 30?
Dam,that fish at the start looked tasty
Yes ist was!!
what is the name of this boat?
I plan on building an over 40 footer Cat to sail around the world in.
In short(but not to short haha) how would you describe your experience and if you had the chance, would you want to sail indefinitely?!
Colaaah
Hello
Good Luck! As far as i can say it is a learning by doing experience.
It is important to have a lot of time and money. :)
Enjoy your freedom!
Jonathan Bonsels that I have haha! So, do you love continually sailing around the world? Even with some hairy rough seas you may come across?
Colaaah
Not really. I am bussy with family life these days. But if you need company I can ask some friends.
You are the new owners of Apatiki. Love that Cat. Why did the mast snap? Too much sail or bad design?
No I'm not the new owner. A friend of mine. He lives on the boat with his family.
Why did the mast snap? Probably a construction mistake, and heavy conditions...
Jonathan Bonsels thanks for the reply. We at Junkrigassociation were wondering what happened to Apatiki. I learned there was a concern with the masts being too thin walled for the stresses. Another 46 Tiki was built with masts about 5 times as strong. No worries there.
Jonathan Bonsels forgot to ask has the mast been repaired, replaced or improved?
doclees11 it will be replaced. I think this time they take a wooden Mast.
Good time know! Thanks dir the information! Ich will tell the owner! 😀
Your mast broke?? What was it made from??
It was made from Aluminium. Now it ist wood.
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didnt know that Germans like John Butler. and it maybe a Narai 40
Not all germans! But some for sure. me becouse i saw him in austrailia.
Eine schöne Reise. Warum nie wieder?
Ich bin nicht so der Segler Typ. Das hat mir mein Magen gesagt.
It is a Tiki 46 as far as I remember
Jonathan Bonsels only the one vid?
Jonathan Bonsels → At 2:08 in the video: Did that catamaran have a "biplane rig"? {Or WHATEVER it is called.} That is, one mast in EACH HULL, versus one or more masts along the centerline.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman i think it's called a junk rig.
@@russellesimonetta3835 >>> Rodger that -- Thanks.
Did you build or buy this boat?
My friend bought it from the previous owner who built it. I was just a crew member.
Sailing vids always show Dolphins. Do you see sharks on these crossongs?
No We didn´t see a shark, bat a whale! :)
+Jonathan Bonsels I surfed when I lived in Norcal. When asked that question I said "no, but they saw me!". Getting bumped on a board but not knowing what it was is spooky.
Whats the story with the dsmasting? No comentary?
Jonathan Bonsels No, it was a design error. One inner sleeve was missing (unlike in the construction plans), so the stiffness was not balanced. There was nothing wrong with our sailing.
Most of the way you had too much sail up, and your ropes and blocks were underdimensioned. The difference between sailing monohulls and cats are that in monohulls you set sail for the average wind, ind cats you set sail for the gusts, as multihulls can't uptain the power in the gusts like monohulls, as monohulls will bend and sway in a way cats can't. So this energy will be uptained in the rig, the mast and the boat. You sailed like you were sailing an American Cup boat. You broke it. A good video to learn how NOT to do... Thanks for the upload...
For an americas cup i think it wasen't enough. We constantly adapted the sails to the changing conitions. But yea that rig on that boat makes sailing more difficult than I thought.
Was a good experience! 😉
@@jesper1406 Yes and no. Junk rigs are less efficient than a bermuda rig, so they're going to carry more sail under all circumstances than a bermuda, regardless of the hull.
As a cat and junk rig follower, I would say that mast looks a bit on the thin side.
At least being a biplane there was a spare!
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