Good idea to do this and thanks for the mentions, much appreciated!! Great job on the video and testing and I don't mind the mangling at all, it's fake and deserved it!
@@Spegtacular many times. I've seen them in dealer's cases at shows, but less so than it use to be. They know me and trust me now, but use to get offended a bit and doubt my knowledge.
Good chance that is a few cents worth of molybdenum, an obscure industrial metal usually associated with resisting high temperatures. It is silver colored and just a tiny bit less dense than silver for the diameter and weight (like gold-plated tungsten counterfeits of gold coins). It's also toxic so I hope you didn't eat the fake coin later.
A very comprehensive study to determine fakes that aren't quite as easy to pick apart, especially if they are made of silver or similar metal. Great tip on the measurement mode on the verifier!
I wish I had the budget for an electronic verifier gizmo. That was a great fake.😠 that thing could be passed around without notice indefinitely. Thanks speg for this great video.👍👍👍
Yes, Daniel is good people for sure. I am extremely happy with everything i have ordered from him . coinhelpU is the first coin channel i started watching when i started collecting a year and a half ago. His knowledge as well the people he occasionally live streams with have been invaluable . to be perfectly honest , I have not met a better community of people.
Q; If I was going to counterfeit a silver coin to try and get a high numismatic price for it, why wouldn’t I just use real silver? $25-35 worth of silver to achieve possibly hundreds in numismatic value. Sounds much easier as well.
Usually the Chinese counterfeiters are trying to sell classic coins for dirt cheap in bulk rather than a collector coin for expensive (usually being the keyword). Notice how this coin isn’t even a key date.
Well, that was an interesting set of tests. Many of us would have given that fake a pass if we had all the test instruments except the verifier. Thanks for sharing the comparison with us.
@Silver Raider I bought some fake morgans from Offerup (luckily I got my money back) They were really good fakes but a little thicker then the real thing an slid like a rock down my magnet slide. I took it to the coin shop that had a really expensive x-ray machine an i could have sworn he said Tungsten copper an silver coating. (I could be wrong) I had to send them all back to get my money back ( but I keep one) figuring they wouldn't notice. Ill go back this week an ask him to test it again an tell ya what the results were. (Im pretty curious now) My point is, to get the exact same weight including all dimensions youll never pass the magnet slide test. (I think) lol
@kamala says heels up, dont shoot might work if you dont know what to look for. Nickel isn't as dense as silver so the coin will still have to be larger if its supposed to pass for a silver dollar.
I bought the exact same fake trade dollar dated 1874-S at a local show over 20 years ago. It was clearly labeled fake, and I paid $10 knowing it was a fake. I just wanted to have it as a learning experience. I did not do any of the tests, as I knew it was fake. But the diameter appears to be a bit larger than a real one. The details were flat, and the surface had some bubbling or pitting. Thanks for doing these demonstrations to educate people. I hope you can find a definitive way to test without gouging the metal. I wonder what a metal detector would read on it. Some of the newer detectors discriminate down to denomination or indicate silver, gold, or iron with considerable accuracy.
I wonder how different the ping test would look on a spectrum analyzer app. EDIT: Just checked, there is a tone and a roughly 2x pitch overtone. The overtone dies out quickly in the fake... and sustains and is louder with the silver. EDIT: Try Spectrogram, there is an even higher overtone 20 kHz that is NOT there with the fake. Of course the silver seems to be higher pitched, but that could change depending on size and shape and what the fake is made out of.
Great video. I could definitely hear the difference in the ping test. The fake one had a higher pitch. The speed of the magnet slide test was also noticeable. The magnet slid faster on the fake one. BTW, there is a guy on eBay who sells rare earth magnet slides, which allow you to slide the entire coin down a ramp of rare earth magnets. So, you are sliding the coin across multiple magnets, instead of sliding a tiny magnet across the coin. Works really well, but not as easy to carry in your pocket, obviously.
did you try testing against different silver percentage coins? some Canadian coins are 50% silver, or a US 40% half dollar, or a 35% war nickle? Also a thickness test might have revealed a difference. See if one of your local coin shops has n XRF gun. That might pinpoint what's in there. Could be enough silver content to at least make it worth something as bullion melt.
It's the leftover from the silver refining it's the silver slag there's silver in it but there's also other Trace Metals in it so there is some silver in it but not much the other trace minerals are abundant in it and that's what it's made from superheated to become moment and then turned into blanks
A specific gravity test can be done at home. That will tell you what it's made of. Also to add to what Speg had mentioned about this potentially being harmful. If you immediately place the coin in acetone it will displace the contaminates from the water. Still not 100% safe but if done right about 99%.
Unfortunately the coins could easily slightly overlap the photos and it would be extremely difficult to tell. The calipers are beneficial for giving you actual size. The book can help you get close, but you’d find yourself purchasing fakes if you went by it alone.
Go to 14:20 and look at the width of the motto "United States of America." The first S is roughly lined up, but the first A in America starts much sooner in the fake coin. I would think another test would be to just get an old school 99 cent plastic protractor to see the angle from the center of the coin. You could literally compare it to a photo in the redbook!
I think it might be a Lead and silver alloy which makes sense cuz lead does have a higher resist resistivity level. and a little bit of silver with lead would give the lead a little more hardness.
Hi Speg, German Silver, used for ornamentation of Long Rifles and other fine firearms. It looks just like Silver and works the same, that explains the look and malleability.
German Silver (Cu, Ni, Zn) alloy has a density of 8.59 g/cm3. Silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm3 (10.34 for 90% silver alloy used in coins). Thus a Trade dollar coin with standard dimensions but made of German Silver would weigh about 22.6 g. Thus this fake couldn't have been German Silver unless the coin was much thicker. Thickness should have been checked.
Pretty much zero luster gave it away for me but still that's a good fake. Plenty of trade dollars out there look almost exactly like that. Yikes. It would be valuable if you were playing the chimes with your coins because you'd have another note to play. It'd be interesting to melt it down, separate the metals out and find out exactly how much silver is actually in there.
When I read the title I thought coinhelpu sold you a fake coin. I am glad to hear that he didn’t because I like this guy. 😆 Thanks for the info. Great video. 👍
Has anyone ever found silver that doesn't ring? I have a 1oz bar that passes weight, dimensions, slide test, and even sigma even though it is close to outside the brackets. Yet it just does not ring. I cut it in half and did a acid test on it and it checked out. Ive been trying to find a answer to this for over a year and am yet to get a satisfactory answer. Anyone ever run into this?
SpegTacular They showed that the little tests that the companies do to show you the “contaminants” in the water were actually fake and caused by the chemical reactions of the “test” drops. It was really interesting. They had the engineers and scientists from the water districts pose undercover with the home water filtration systems employees who came out to test their water. Then they started asking them the tough questions and they all folded. Then they went to the owners of these companies who do the water filtration and got them on camera undercover admitting it was complete nonsense. Excellent show
Grab a TDS meter and you’ll see the true difference. I used to actually build beautiful saltwater coral tanks and freshwater shrimp tanks that both demand very different water. The saltwater tanks need very clean water (then you add salt with many minerals in it). The shrimp tank requires “dirtier” water with a higher level of TDSs around 150 or so. I’m also a bit of a water snob when it comes to drinking water lol ;)
Speg, I am thinking an alloy of Tin, Lead and Silver. Like a modified Pewter. Pewter being poor mans silver. With the dimensions and mass (weight) about correct, the alloy is real close to 90% silver and silver colored. We all need to be very careful where we buy expensive coins, lots of new and years old fakes out there. I’ll stick with my constitutional silver stacking. My quarters are too cheep to fake, but, when silver hits $100, Chinese fakes may flood into the markets.
I think the fake might some Silver/Tin alloy. Tin has a similar atomic weight to Silver and it's also silvery. Tin is like 50 US cents per ounce ... cheap
Good day Speg, quick question on paying a " premium " on silver. How much is too much? Recently I came across a 2oz silver Morgan round. I have 40+ Morgan's in my collection and would love to add a silver round. The premium is almost 2/3 of what silvef is going for now. I just checked before asking and it is going for 26.88 an ounce. The round is selling for 95.98. I understand that paying a premium is guaranteed. Keep up the great videos. I may have a China coin for you to destroy in the future as well. It is a 1926 (1500 anniversary of the Declaration of Independence) I believe it is called a Semisesquencial. Thank you, from Ocala area.
Hey Edward, it’s hard to give you a number to go by. It’s usually just something you look at based on what several places are charging and determine whether or not it’s too much. Specialty coins/rounds could potentially have huge premiums though.
Why didn't you put the real trade dollar on the last test to see what it came up with? Since the machine has a different setting for pre-1900 silver coins you'd think it would be different than the Morgan and Peace you put on there.
@@Spegtacular This brings up a question. What about the year 1900 changes what the machine tests for? I mean, isn't an 1897 Barber Half Dollar exactly the same composition as a 1903 Barber Half Dollar? 90% silver/10% copper?
Man o man. You AND Daniel? Two of my favorite coin guys (you can also throw in THE coin Guy) ive learned so much in the passed 10 months between stacking and just numismatics. G-d bless ya both! Keep up the amazing and informative work you two!
Good idea to do this and thanks for the mentions, much appreciated!! Great job on the video and testing and I don't mind the mangling at all, it's fake and deserved it!
I wonder how many times some of these fakes have made through shops and collectors hands. Thanks for doing a great job Daniel.
You are second to none.... JJ
Thank you to the both of you for all you do
@@Spegtacular many times. I've seen them in dealer's cases at shows, but less so than it use to be. They know me and trust me now, but use to get offended a bit and doubt my knowledge.
Good chance that is a few cents worth of molybdenum, an obscure industrial metal usually associated with resisting high temperatures. It is silver colored and just a tiny bit less dense than silver for the diameter and weight (like gold-plated tungsten counterfeits of gold coins). It's also toxic so I hope you didn't eat the fake coin later.
Plot twist: The center of the coin is filled with Palladium
A very comprehensive study to determine fakes that aren't quite as easy to pick apart, especially if they are made of silver or similar metal. Great tip on the measurement mode on the verifier!
If you pinged them backwards you could have had a jaws theme going. 😂 😆 😝
I wish I had the budget for an electronic verifier gizmo. That was a great fake.😠 that thing could be passed around without notice indefinitely. Thanks speg for this great video.👍👍👍
It's wild... every shop and online dealer should be testing everything they buy so they know what they're selling and can price accordingly
Yes, Daniel is good people for sure. I am extremely happy with everything i have ordered from him . coinhelpU is the first coin channel i started watching when i started collecting a year and a half ago. His knowledge as well the people he occasionally live streams with have been invaluable . to be perfectly honest , I have not met a better community of people.
Thank you
@@CoinHELPu i wouldnt say it if it wasnt true
Q; If I was going to counterfeit a silver coin to try and get a high numismatic price for it, why wouldn’t I just use real silver? $25-35 worth of silver to achieve possibly hundreds in numismatic value. Sounds much easier as well.
Usually the Chinese counterfeiters are trying to sell classic coins for dirt cheap in bulk rather than a collector coin for expensive (usually being the keyword). Notice how this coin isn’t even a key date.
As always, a great video Speg! When you were pinging the coins, I thought I was watching Jaws!
Well, that was an interesting set of tests. Many of us would have given that fake a pass if we had all the test instruments except the verifier.
Thanks for sharing the comparison with us.
Thanks for the education! These videos help our community immensely...
as a sound guy, the real silver coin had a lower frequency ping than the fake, indicating the real one to be a denser metal.
When you ping smaller silver coins together they obviously have a higher pitch. That fake Morgan rings like a silver half dollar
Amazing! Thanks a lot for the detailed tests and explanation! It's really well faked and difficult to spot.
A thickness measure of each would have been nice since weights were so close.
Good point!
I couldn't believe he didn't test the thickness.
I'm guessing its tungsten.
@Silver Raider I bought some fake morgans from Offerup (luckily I got my money back)
They were really good fakes but a little thicker then the real thing an slid like a rock down my magnet slide.
I took it to the coin shop that had a really expensive x-ray machine an i could have sworn he said Tungsten copper an silver coating. (I could be wrong)
I had to send them all back to get my money back ( but I keep one) figuring they wouldn't notice.
Ill go back this week an ask him to test it again an tell ya what the results were. (Im pretty curious now)
My point is, to get the exact same weight including all dimensions youll never pass the magnet slide test. (I think) lol
@Silver Raider why would they have to be melted war nickles when nicke is easy to come by?
@kamala says heels up, dont shoot might work if you dont know what to look for.
Nickel isn't as dense as silver so the coin will still have to be larger if its supposed to pass for a silver dollar.
Hi Daniel, the detail around the rim is called denticles.
Meaning TEETH I guess
@@5magpiesuk yes basically teeth, denticles are just a fancy name for that.
Scroll down in the comments looks like Speg has a new fan club.
I like fans.
@@Spegtacular and we like Speg
I bought the exact same fake trade dollar dated 1874-S at a local show over 20 years ago. It was clearly labeled fake, and I paid $10 knowing it was a fake. I just wanted to have it as a learning experience. I did not do any of the tests, as I knew it was fake. But the diameter appears to be a bit larger than a real one. The details were flat, and the surface had some bubbling or pitting.
Thanks for doing these demonstrations to educate people. I hope you can find a definitive way to test without gouging the metal. I wonder what a metal detector would read on it. Some of the newer detectors discriminate down to denomination or indicate silver, gold, or iron with considerable accuracy.
I wonder how different the ping test would look on a spectrum analyzer app. EDIT: Just checked, there is a tone and a roughly 2x pitch overtone. The overtone dies out quickly in the fake... and sustains and is louder with the silver. EDIT: Try Spectrogram, there is an even higher overtone 20 kHz that is NOT there with the fake.
Of course the silver seems to be higher pitched, but that could change depending on size and shape and what the fake is made out of.
Crazy and scary to see such a deceptive fake!🔥🔥🔥
I watch you and Daniel faithfully. I've done business with Daniel too and he is a great guy.
Great video. I could definitely hear the difference in the ping test. The fake one had a higher pitch. The speed of the magnet slide test was also noticeable. The magnet slid faster on the fake one. BTW, there is a guy on eBay who sells rare earth magnet slides, which allow you to slide the entire coin down a ramp of rare earth magnets. So, you are sliding the coin across multiple magnets, instead of sliding a tiny magnet across the coin. Works really well, but not as easy to carry in your pocket, obviously.
did you try testing against different silver percentage coins? some Canadian coins are 50% silver, or a US 40% half dollar, or a 35% war nickle? Also a thickness test might have revealed a difference. See if one of your local coin shops has n XRF gun. That might pinpoint what's in there. Could be enough silver content to at least make it worth something as bullion melt.
mine says 'IN GOP WE TRUST' and the sash in her hand says
'LUBERT'. i like it though, i think it's funny.
Dentiles are what the little things around the edge of the coin are called
"eddy current" is the cool affect where it looks like its sliding through molasses.
The coin is made out of Potin. Copper and zinc, cut with lead to match the weight. Been used for 1000 years.
What's the resistivity of the real trade dollar? The .999 at 1.71 is off a bit though from 1.59? What's the temperature of where you were at?
You can definitely tell the difference between cast coins and ones punched from a actual die
It's the leftover from the silver refining it's the silver slag there's silver in it but there's also other Trace Metals in it so there is some silver in it but not much the other trace minerals are abundant in it and that's what it's made from superheated to become moment and then turned into blanks
i have 2 from ebay...got my money back and got to keep the coins !!
Real silver with the ring test seems to carry the tone longer and louder
Enjoyed the video....lots of things to take into consideration before purchasing heavy silver!
I bought 3 at a local auction, advertised as fake. What is melt value, or should I keep them as an oddity?
Very informative video! Really enjoyed watching this. Could the fake trade dollar contain nickel or zinc? Thanks to you and Daniel ! 😀👍
EBay should also cover the cost as this was not what was ordered.
Jesse bought that from Daniel on purpose. For the Video, so people can learn.
Great video. Lots of info. Love trade dollars. But you really have to be diligent when purchasing them.
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A specific gravity test can be done at home. That will tell you what it's made of. Also to add to what Speg had mentioned about this potentially being harmful. If you immediately place the coin in acetone it will displace the contaminates from the water. Still not 100% safe but if done right about 99%.
I guess you didn’t fully watch the video on my thoughts with a specific gravity test.
@@Spegtacular lol made it half way. My bad I'm watching this at work. Let me get the later half!!!
It’s ok I’ll talk to you here about it. I would highly recommend not dipping a coin in water.. that’s all :)
You actually don't need a caliper to measure most old U.S. coins, you just need to align it with the pictures in the red book.
Unfortunately the coins could easily slightly overlap the photos and it would be extremely difficult to tell. The calipers are beneficial for giving you actual size. The book can help you get close, but you’d find yourself purchasing fakes if you went by it alone.
If this was another non fake video I was going to scream 😂😂😂
Go to 14:20 and look at the width of the motto "United States of America." The first S is roughly lined up, but the first A in America starts much sooner in the fake coin. I would think another test would be to just get an old school 99 cent plastic protractor to see the angle from the center of the coin. You could literally compare it to a photo in the redbook!
I think it might be a Lead and silver alloy which makes sense cuz lead does have a higher resist resistivity level. and a little bit of silver with lead would give the lead a little more hardness.
Also lead and silver have a similar density.
Just a theory
Easy heat and lead goes faster melt
Good thing I have watched COINHELPU ... otherwise I would have thought this was an investigative story of scoundrels selling fake coins.
Wow almost a 4 on resistance since silver is very conductive, up close to 4 is twice the resistance of silver
Hi Speg, German Silver, used for ornamentation of Long Rifles and other fine firearms. It looks just like Silver and works the same, that explains the look and malleability.
German Silver (Cu, Ni, Zn) alloy has a density of 8.59 g/cm3. Silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm3 (10.34 for 90% silver alloy used in coins). Thus a Trade dollar coin with standard dimensions but made of German Silver would weigh about 22.6 g. Thus this fake couldn't have been German Silver unless the coin was much thicker. Thickness should have been checked.
Watching full your beautiful video I have also a Trade dollar 1875 from Philippines
Pretty much zero luster gave it away for me but still that's a good fake. Plenty of trade dollars out there look almost exactly like that. Yikes. It would be valuable if you were playing the chimes with your coins because you'd have another note to play. It'd be interesting to melt it down, separate the metals out and find out exactly how much silver is actually in there.
When I read the title I thought coinhelpu sold you a fake coin. I am glad to hear that he didn’t because I like this guy. 😆 Thanks for the info. Great video. 👍
Please get it tested and help us all out..
Has anyone ever found silver that doesn't ring? I have a 1oz bar that passes weight, dimensions, slide test, and even sigma even though it is close to outside the brackets. Yet it just does not ring. I cut it in half and did a acid test on it and it checked out. Ive been trying to find a answer to this for over a year and am yet to get a satisfactory answer. Anyone ever run into this?
I need one of those TDS meters for my liberal neighbors
They probably have one you can borrow from their weed grow! Hannah makes the best.
The design of your gloves is great ;)
A lot of Silver Alloy's out there who knows what they used back in the day.
According to the Sigma, it’s not near silver with the resistivity measurement.
@@Spegtacular x ray test will show alloy and amounts of elements,scrap tester
Excellent video. Very interesting.
8:56 Silver bells, Silver bell, It's Christmas Time in the city. . .
I think the mystery metal is pewter but that is just a guess.
The last test was the best.
Canadian DATELINE told me that the water filtration system is a total SCAM! Lol 😂
What did they say about it?
SpegTacular They showed that the little tests that the companies do to show you the “contaminants” in the water were actually fake and caused by the chemical reactions of the “test” drops. It was really interesting. They had the engineers and scientists from the water districts pose undercover with the home water filtration systems employees who came out to test their water. Then they started asking them the tough questions and they all folded. Then they went to the owners of these companies who do the water filtration and got them on camera undercover admitting it was complete nonsense. Excellent show
Grab a TDS meter and you’ll see the true difference. I used to actually build beautiful saltwater coral tanks and freshwater shrimp tanks that both demand very different water. The saltwater tanks need very clean water (then you add salt with many minerals in it). The shrimp tank requires “dirtier” water with a higher level of TDSs around 150 or so. I’m also a bit of a water snob when it comes to drinking water lol ;)
I thought dan sold you a fake trade dollar as a real one, I was actually watching his video and immediately clicked on this one
Haha no no.
Been following Daniel for quite awhile, decent prices on his web site.
I quit following him. I just could not take his face and hands anymore. He is grotesque looking but he thinks he is a very handsome man.
My 1876 trade dollar has a stamp on it stating ‘FBI 16A’
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Good video, I like your videos, they are good information
The slow slide of the magnetic is a give away, real.
Believe it or not this is water. Lol
Speg, I am thinking an alloy of Tin, Lead and Silver. Like a modified Pewter. Pewter being poor mans silver. With the dimensions and mass (weight) about correct, the alloy is real close to 90% silver and silver colored. We all need to be very careful where we buy expensive coins, lots of new and years old fakes out there. I’ll stick with my constitutional silver stacking. My quarters are too cheep to fake, but, when silver hits $100, Chinese fakes may flood into the markets.
I’ve seen plenty of fake quarters;)
Wow, I am going to check each one, again. Let’s see $1100 face X4= a lot of quarters. I’ll be busy. 😉
Big fan of Daniel, big fan of “Coin Guy,”, big fan of Speg!
I would be interested in knowing what the fake is actually made out of..
Thank you for showing us
sir I have usa trade dollar 420. gaints.900 gine. 1876. how I can sell it plz advise personally. tnx
I always use a magnet
I think the fake might some Silver/Tin alloy. Tin has a similar atomic weight to Silver and it's also silvery. Tin is like 50 US cents per ounce ... cheap
I got a trade dollar and the weight is 26.55g so can I assume this is 100% fake then?
Real nice video, Jesse. Was hoping you would drill it, as someone might like it for wearing. No biggy. JJ
Thanks for the great video.
Does anyone know if an 1882 with a sitting lady liberty have a cc on it?
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Daniel is great. I buy a lot of coins from him, and his packaging is AWESOME.
Just bought 2 coins from Daniel and they were packed to survive outer space.
@@dalestoner2928 I told Daniel, opening his packages where like breaking into Fort Knox...LOL
Good day Speg, quick question on paying a " premium " on silver. How much is too much? Recently I came across a 2oz silver Morgan round. I have 40+ Morgan's in my collection and would love to add a silver round. The premium is almost 2/3 of what silvef is going for now. I just checked before asking and it is going for 26.88 an ounce. The round is selling for 95.98. I understand that paying a premium is guaranteed. Keep up the great videos. I may have a China coin for you to destroy in the future as well. It is a 1926 (1500 anniversary of the Declaration of Independence) I believe it is called a Semisesquencial. Thank you, from Ocala area.
Hey Edward, it’s hard to give you a number to go by. It’s usually just something you look at based on what several places are charging and determine whether or not it’s too much. Specialty coins/rounds could potentially have huge premiums though.
Trade dollar 1873-s saya ada.namun bukan perak saat saya bersihkan berwarna kekuningan kilau biru apakah koin itu masih asli atau palsu trimakasih.
Maybe silver with nickel/manganese? That's all I can think of metal-wise
I was thinking manganese too actually.
The doughy "states" even isn't as long in font spacing as the tarnished coin below it
Penmanship is awl dare is two ir
Good morning SpegTacular
Why didn't you put the real trade dollar on the last test to see what it came up with? Since the machine has a different setting for pre-1900 silver coins you'd think it would be different than the Morgan and Peace you put on there.
The Morgan dollars are tested at pre1900... in other words, the same as the trade dollars.
@@Spegtacular This brings up a question. What about the year 1900 changes what the machine tests for? I mean, isn't an 1897 Barber Half Dollar exactly the same composition as a 1903 Barber Half Dollar? 90% silver/10% copper?
Thanks Speg!
Would've liked to see a ping test with phone app.
i have trade dollar 1872 how to sell sir
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Interesting!
i know you can weigh them,don't think I would have done that to the coin,its a shame they counterfeited them so long ago,trade dollar coins🤔
I had a fake one of those too
Dang. I been stacking for a while. Would never caught that. Is there that much fake out there? I’m a bit shaky now.
I found a fake trade dollar last year at a local pawn shop that he wanted to sell me for $95... what a steal ;)
An act of war!
I have koins us trade dollar. 1876,1877.
? Well ,,, how much is a fake one worth???
I paid $40
My mag stuck to it ..1873 cc trade dollar
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Good idea
Man o man. You AND Daniel? Two of my favorite coin guys (you can also throw in THE coin Guy) ive learned so much in the passed 10 months between stacking and just numismatics. G-d bless ya both! Keep up the amazing and informative work you two!