Fake Grading Companies - Fake Slabs - What Graded Coins To Avoid!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- You should avoid these grading company holders! Encapsulated coins have been around for decades and the Internet has brought about a bunch of self slabbing graded coins.
People buy plastic slabs, print a label on their printer and put whatever they want on the label, then sell them to people. You need to know who is doing this and which companies to trust and how to identify fake PCGS, NCG, ANACS holders.
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my grandpa got me into coin collecting...but he also never trusted trading companies...he always felt they would swap his pristine coins for the Lesser quality ones and mailed back to him .and he always refer to graded slap coins is conference I'm talking even Ms 64 65 66...he did not like not being able to handle the coins..and I guess I inherited most of those beliefs...
@@juliekelliher8259 wow, I guess I can't blame him for lack of trust -- the grading companies deserve a lack of trust. HOWEVER, they are good for determining authenticity if not a grade! And frankly, I cannot always tell which coins have been cleaned.
Crazy scammers... I buy computer scrap for metals. Don’t buy anything in a bar. 9 times out of 10 bars are fake. China is where most come from. Bastards make it hard to invest in anything these days. Be careful out there
Great links
New to your Channel and Appreciate it greatly 👍
Keep doing what you are doing. If nobody else appreciates it just know that I do. Thanks for the information.
Thank you
This is the type of stuff that people NEED to know. Thank You.
I agree
Thankyou Daniel , You are a wealth of information. Wish your coin shop was in my town.
Thank you
Hi Daniel -I am so glad that you have found a widening audience on RUclips. You have terrific videos. I know you mean it when you say that your reputation is more important than the money in your pocket.
Thanks Daniel for showing and documenting these fakers with photos so collectors can be aware and hip to their game. Your expertise and opinion is most appreciated.
Per Wikipedia:
“In 2007, the rare coin industry's leading dealer association, the Professional Numismatists Guild (PNG), released the results of a survey of major coin dealers who gave their professional opinions about 11 certification services. PCGS and NGC were rated "Superior" overall, with ANACS and ICG deemed "Good". PCI and SEGS were listed as "Poor", while called "Unacceptable" were Accugrade (ACG), Numistrust Corporation (NTC), Hallmark Coin Grading Service (HCGS), American Coin Club Grading Service (ACCGS), and Star Grading Services (SGS).”
Invaluable information. I don't think any other RUclips channel goes to the extent that you do to help protect people in the collecting business / hobby. Thank you so much Daniel. Awesome video.
Daniel, I can't believe that anyone in the coin community would use fake labels and grades just to make money. It's really is sad because I always liked buying graded coins. I don't feel comfortable anymore after hearing this video but your sweet voice relaxes me always. Love hearing and watching your videos. Earlene
I so much appreciate you're videos. I'm new to coin collecting, just started this year, and you are are an awesome teacher and I learn so much from you. Great job man.
Thank you!
I've been watching your videos along with many of the other numismatics for about a month now and I've determined that yours are the most appealing especially in terms of integrity and experience. The point is that I'm trying to complement you on what you are doing. You are among the very best. Keep it up and kind wishes!
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I truly appreciate it! I'm also very happy to see your links to other videos! That is so helpful! I almost gave up on coin collecting, but I have some hope after watching your videos. Thanks very much!
As a recent subscriber to your channel, I appreciate your help and candor helping the novice and pro collectors avoid the many scams and pitfalls in collecting coins today. Thanks for all the info and hard work you do.
You're welcome
What really concerns coin collecting are fake NGC and PCGS slabbed coins. Especially the older NGC with photos when graded. I’m glad that you made this video.
I love this !!!! I just wish there were more people like you that verbally made videos they can call these people out. There are so many scam artists just like you mentioned and there’s just one of you which is the sad part, if there were more people that would do what you were doing maybe the scam artist wouldn’t be so successful
Hello Daniel. You are definitely a well-versed coin dealer. It's really great that you're doing videos like this. Many aspiring coin collectors need to learn from you, so that they stay coin collectors and not get swayed away by ripoffs.
Thank you
It's nice to have a watchdog for all hobbyist. I am glad you dared to post this kind of video clips. It helps a lot for newbies like me.
No fear, if I do I swallow it and post it anyway
You have definitely given me alot of knowledge I didnt have before I started watching your videos. Thankyou!
Great job being an advocate for quality and trustworthy grading. You never need to apologize for that. Like P. T. Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute".
INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING,,,YOUR REPUTATION IS EVERYTHING.I AM GLAD TO SEE A FEW PEOPLE STILL HAVE INTEGRITY.
Great info. I've bought a slab coin in that early years of eBay. I thought I bought A NGC slab quarter but it was a NCG slab. Luckily I only lost $5.
I always liked the old school ANACS. The small holders
You are a great find Daniel. I've just subed. The info is priceless. Just what a newbie coin collector or precious metal stacker needs to know.
Thank you and you're welcome
Interesting retired from federal law enforcement after a semi long career this is very interesting passed your vids to some buddies who collect who are employed within diff. Agencies including the secret service...keep up the great investigatuve work!
I appreciate you informing us on the proper way to look an evaluate the coins
Awesome and excellent info Daniel, always top notch. Never stop what you do
I truly appreciate people like you who take the time to educate people on the scams people try and get away with on beginners ! Great hobby when it’s legit .
Wish I would of watched this video a few months ago.. bought a coin graded MS-66 on line auction, sent it into NGC came back AU-55...3rd world grading outfit.. who knows.. what is that old saying.. "a wise man learns from advice.. but experience is the best teacher"... keep up the numismatic educational videos..
thanks daniel yr wisdom is much needed in this game we call coin collecting. too many folks just trying to make money, and their word means nothing to them.i fairly new to this and ive watched all yr videos. ive made my fair share of mistakes. i make alot fewer now thanks to you my brother. i fear this institution is going to continuely go down ward because these people do one thing well! they prey upon the other guys need to think hes going to make money (GREED), AND BECAUSE OF THAT IT MAKES IT ROUGH.. YOU MY FRIEND ARE THE STANDARD BEARERS OF WHAT THIS HOBBY SHOULD BE . SO THANK YOU BROTHER , LOVE AND PEACE BE UPON YOU AND YR FAMILY!!!!!
Any new or inexperienced coin collectors out there should be REQUIRED to watch these videos!!!! This guy is the most honest and straightforward, no BS, tell you how it is guy doin coin videos. That I have come across anyways. Anyone buyin coins in driving distance of this shop would be soft not check them out. I remember buying some MS70, hahaha ms70, nickels off ebay in some junk holder years ago when i didnt know any better. Thankfully i was smart enough to realize a ms70 should at least be in better shape than the ones i get in change...lol....lesson learned...thankfully it wasnt an expensive one. Anyways, just callin it like i see it...thanks Dan!!!
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Thanks for saying what needs to be said!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
You're welcome
GREAT TOPIC you have my attention!!!
Great information as always.Thanks.
Really informative! Thank you, sir!
Good man - thank you for keeping people aware.
Always a good day when you put out a video!!!!!
Thank you, means a lot to me.
thank you again, your videos have taught me so much and what to avoid and what to look for.
Daniel, I loved the bumper music leading into this video.. I watch your videos frequently since I am new to the precious metals collecting.. Thank you so much for all your advice!!. T.E.
Thank you for taking time out of your business to help us newer collectors I am sending some coins into annex they have been around a long time and like you said if the company’s been around that long they must be doing something right
Thank you for all your videos and contributions to help the coin community. There very informative and love your honesty. Keep up the great work and thank you.. I'm kinda new to the hobby and I've learned so much from your videos..
super interesting and instructive, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and warning us about counterfeits.
Great vids man very educational also keep up the good work
I just want to thank you I'm new to the coins and I have learned a lot from watching your channel because you're so honest and to the point I work hard for my money so I don't like to be ripped off and I have learned a lot thanks again
Thanks for all the great info. Keep on doing what you do. You may help someone from buying the wroung coin and geting ripedoff.
I actually learned a lot from your videos. I'm new too the Morgan collecting and you saved me a bunch of money. I heard you say, several times, that knowledge is power. Know what your years, and learn everything you can on it. LOL I have been using your online site and didn't connect it to you. You have saved me even more than I thought. Truth
Thanks mate, you're a great source of knowledge
Thank you, I'm just starting out collecting coins, and I thought if the coin was graded by PCGS it had to be a good coin. Now I'll be more careful when I buy especially on eBay. Your doing a great service!
Very good information...Thank you!
Good job Daniel, I have bought a few of those things, I got a 1960 D/D, and I got a 1960D, no RPM, I have been collecting for about a year and a half, but I learned that, I wish I would have watched this 1st. Thanks for your great informative videos. The old guy in Florida 😎
Clear, concise, excellent information!
Keep up the good work!!
Thank you :-)
Great video, Daniel!
This video is a coin help u classic!! Real good stuff. Daniel is on the cutting edge of the nuts and bolts coin dealing. And he's out here saying what needed to be said in this video. If I didn't have this channel and a couple others to watch and help me know the hobby better the hobby would be much more difficult to navigate. You do us a real service here Daniel! Thank you!! This is my 2nd or third time veiwing this episode of coin helps u. I 1st watched it when it aired. Its cool to go back and watch a rerun with some nostalgia for a year ago and where I was in my numismatic journey 12 months ago. O how much more knowledgeable I am due to watching coin help u, coin opp, ben the coin geek, blue ridge silver hound, and numismatic stacker (formally known as coin group of Minnesota or CGOM) everyone in the hobby should check out those channels if they have not yet done so. Thanks again Daniel for the amazing resource with these videos.
I have noticed on ProxyBid that the 2 most numerous fake slabs they are auctioning are PGA (by far the most), NTC, ACC, and PCA
You are truly a wealth of great information for me and all who follow you, Thank you for what you do.
You're welcome
Thanks for the lessons.
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of graded coin collecting Daniel, many thanks and greetings from the Philippines
You're welcome
Thanx again for the information , scary how many dishonest folks there are out there 😞
Love your channel please keep up the good work
You just reminded me of several slabbed coins I bought(w/ some other items), a few years back, in one of those "estate" auctions. The name is INB on the coins. The printing is even faded so badly, I need a magnifying glass to read them. Several are marked MS70. I know I didn't pay a lot for them, as I have always been a suspicious person.(ex-MIL called me a Philadelphia lawyer because I wouldn't fall for her "jokes") I had even put a note on them that the company overgrades coins.
Thank you for the videos... in the short time I've been watching them I have learned a lot.
Thank you
Thank you for your integrity!
Daniel thanks for being straight up
Thanks for sharing this information. I really need to know this. I'm sure other people do to. Keep making your videos 😊. Thank you again 😎 FL.
Hi my name is Alex Macias and I'm new at coin collecting I don't know much about it but I find I really enjoy my new hobby, and I truly enjoy your videos they truly help...Thanks
Another comment I thought about towards the end of this video is the fact, people should now list their coins as being Gem BU or Gem BU+ on eBay if they are raw. According to standards used by PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and sources such as "The Official Red Book - A Guide Book of United States Coins," for a coin to be Gem BU it has to at least grade out MS65. Thanks again for another great information filled video.
Thank you very much Daniel. Very valuable info. Especially for Us the new collectors, new to the hobby.
You're welcome
Daniel your very big help thanks !
It’s the Wild West out there on the internet and you are the new sheriff in town. Thank you!
My plan is to reach all collectors so everyone gets the word on this.
CoinHELPu : Very much appreciated and much needed. I rarely buy from internet.
Thanks for another great video!
You're welcome
Thank you Daniel for letting me know about these fake coin grading companies. I buy nothing but NGC graded coins and im a member of NGC. So when I buy a graded coin by NGC, I give NGC the number and match up the picture that NGC took when it was graded with the coin that I have.
Thank you so much for teaching us about safe &
fake grading companies.
I'm new at this & really want to learn as much as
possible so I'm not "taken."
So far I ask at the bank,
& just going thru coins coming to me thru the stores I shop at. I haven't
gotten into buying, except
for what I find during
my day. I find this to be fun, want to keep it this
way. Two days ago I found
from the bank's cash machine a brand
new uncirculated $20.00
star note bill. I was thrilled!!! For now I guess
you could call it "zen" way
keeping it a fun approach." Eventually
I would like to start
purchasing. Until that
stage I really want to
be further educated.
I thank you so much for enlightening myself &
others like me to have
this information available.
I would like to eventually
send out coins for grading.
At that point I will refer to your charts. Thank you again.
Thank you, Daniel.
I bought a coin from a shop in my town that was graded by a company that I don't believe exists any more NNCS - National Numismatic Certification Service in July of 1986. It was an MS64 $1 1898-O. I was able to get the coin regraded by NGC at MS64. That's personally my only interaction with anything besides PCGS and NGC. Great video, videos like this are very helpful for those who are newer to coins and might not know what to look out for. Not too long ago on eBay, there was a seller selling coins graded by one of these "fake" companies. I always make sure to read the feedback of sellers that I am newly buying from.
Thanks
Reputation over $$, at last somebody with morals!
Though I collect English hammered coins and really don’t find myself in the same market as you deal in, I applaud all of your wonderful work trying to educate beginners to collecting. Keep up your wonderful work.
Big help! Thanks.
One of the things I strongly dislike about PCI is that their holders tone their coins very strongly
Thanks for the info
Fake slabs? I have learned something today. Thank you for the information 👍
Great info!
Thank you for the information. I'm just starting out . this will help me when buying coins
Great video. I collect ancients, so rely exclusively on NGC grading. I didn't realize how prevalent fake NGC slabs are until watching your videos. From my perspective there are some VERY realistic looking fake ancients out there - I mean the right metal, the right striking method, the right toning. I didn't realize I had to deal with fake NGC slabs too :-(
Find these very useful, yes binge watching again. :)
Thank you
great information
This is great information, thank you so much for sharing. I make a point to NOT buy coins in those cheap holders that have hand written notes on them. Ive had the best luck only buying from reputable dealers like you.
Thank you sharing from your heart! I learned so much! I hope to find a pro in the SF area who is as savvy and cares to teach those of us who are new, passionate, and honest businesspeople. A righteous rant! It comes when I am learning that there has to be other ideas how to use my collection besides sitting in a storage safe. I'm open to your ideas. Thanks again,
Join a coin club, dealers would not have time to mentor as you desire. Thanks
Thanks for another awesome video. Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience. I trust NGC, PCGS ANACS and ICG.
You're welcome
Is icg good l been thinking long and hard lol of using them I started collecting 5 years ago but never had my coins graded.
Another great video! Thanks for Sharing my friend
Thanks for the information
THANK YOU VERY YOU ARE HONEST MAN CAN BE TRUSTED
Wow, Good information.
Wow! This is good information to have being a new collector in the field. I certainly do not want to be taken advantage of. Thanks for this video, Daniel. It makes me more aware of what to look for. I sure like the toning coinage/rainbows though. They are magnificent looking. I found 2 pennies and a dime in pocket change so I know they are authentic. 😁
Great video. Thank you. Have a wonderful day and as always, Enjoy. CI
You're welcome!
@@CoinHELPu Thank you SIR
Hi, Daniel and appreciate all you do to help us on coins . Thank you for helping us not get scam . Truth and I respect you and your knowledge . ☺️🤗❤️🙏
problem is no shortage of ignorant buyers or collectors...myself included You do your best
Thank you Daniel. I used to get a kick out of seeing all the different slabs out there. I thought it was funny when I was offered an MS-66 coin for 90 o/o back of bid. It's not so funny when you have to tell someone's dad or grandmother that their coins aren't what they thought they were. As with all things in life, educate yourself before spending a lot of money. Thank you for doing your part.
Thank you
Thankyou great information here in Canada there are grading companies that use deception to sell coins but I as a collector always tell people to consult a dealer before buying. I live in Halifax and we only have one coin dealer in the city but he is very good and always ready to help a collector no matter if you are experienced or a new one. I have been collecting for 50 plus years and I can tell you that even the Royal Canadian mint has used deception at times to sell coins but the Canadian mint is privately owned now and considers themselves a business but they were able to somehow allowed to use and keep the RCM name and people still think that if its the RCM it has to be good well buyer beware I tell people.
List your source that the Canadian Government is not owned by the Canadian Government, that would be huge news if true and I don't see anything about it.
LOL LOVE IT GETEM
THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK!!!!
Feel free to add the MNS/MNS (Michigan Masters Numismatic service) TPG Morgan I showed on your FB page, don't see that one listed. According to Coin Community forums:
MMNS did have one innovative slab idea. Back before the edgeview type
slabs MMNS produced what they called their Holoview slabs. These had a beveled mirror built into the slab around the coin that allowed you to see the entire edge of the coin while looking straight on at the coin.
Old IGS holders circa 2000 can have some good coins in them. There’s a newer IGS slab that’s pretty suspect from what I’ve read. Best thing to do if you’re wanting rock solid investment returns is to buy graded from the top tier graded slabs. Third party is a mine field.