Just subscribed because what you just explained is GOLD. When I heard your words you spoke and realized it’s exactly what I know to be true WITH ALL MACHINES I knew I could follow you because you know what You are talking about.
Thanks for sharing. I starting to go back to my Cortez but I'll stick with it. I tested that elevated nail test this morning and it would hit it in stock park program.
I totally agree, Some programs hit it and others don't, but this is a site to site difference. Not all soils are the same. Good thing is you can adjust for it. I do a lot of farms and wire fences have been a problem. I learned to lower the audio response and it will clear up the EMI interference. Thanks for sharing. You are helping me learn the machine. Thanks
Hes eating and sleeping MD man! I cant afford that… that being said most of us are doing it with 1/2 machines. Still 2 master a machine it takes time! But alot of people around me dont take that time! Its good as it is… and theres where is goes south! Iam rockin the D1 for over a year and still learning it! Not a day is the same i noticed.. emi or the ground or whatever. 😊
Well explained Paysteak your right some of these vids regarding testing with nails testing it in their bedroom lol you can tell they know nowt they just newbies trying to make a few bob of youtube . love your input man and Calabash great info from you both good luck
Totally agree, bought the Deus 1 with 9 inch coil first year it came out and it was amazing at that time, yes bought other machines as you do, I have only picked up to compared signals once using Nox 800 against Deus and been exclusively Xp Deus 2 since, as you say its a fantastic machine if you are into fiddling with the setting and trying all the programs on each target to learn, i have done air tests on alot Uk coins and many bottle caps and ring pulls, lead, foil, iron and listened to the sounds and VDI numbers with and without bottle cap on just to learn and VDI number are can change between out the ground and under depending on the type of metal, bottom line will be type of person using it, some folks just want simple turn on and go machine, I’m with you to dial it in, if you run this machine hot and open it can find the tiniest thin 3mm x 3mm foil and my pin pointer can not find it and from mint packets and rings up 32 VDI and clean signal, got to dig them to find out what it is to learn or you will learn nothing, in life if things were easy everybody would be doing it but most people are lazy or have an excuse for it.
Yes I agree. I have 2 Nox 800s, 1 Deus 1, 1 Garrett 400i, a PulseDive, my own machine from 1976 and several cheap machines. I have numerous coils from 4 inches to 15 inches. All those detectors can find stuff the others miss . It is all about selecting the right detector, coil and settings for the day. I found 2 bucket listers with the Nox 800 in the last couple of months but really good stuff with the D1 and Garrett too. I am getting my old 1976 machine running again and back in the day it found bucket listers too. Some conditions favour just one detector but in some conditions I use several detectors and coils. 👍
@@detector2guns I designed the first discriminating detectors that actually worked well on the beach, sea, sand and land with minimal adjustments between. So I could go from the dry sand into the waves with little adjustment, in the early 1970s. I found a small roman coin in the sea on the first test of my prototype. So I am not a jack of all trades but I am experienced in Electronics and Computer Engineering.
Awesome Jeremy! Was thinking about what you said about what the machine is telling you in order to dial it in in different conditions. What would really be awesome is in future videos if you could take a few seconds at the start of your hunts and video what the machine is telling you to do to dial it in. That would be HUGE info for us… and watch your views go off the chart.
I enjoy your vids. Been watching a long time and you taught me a thing or two with the XPD1. Actually more than 2. However, this XPD2 looks like its got you twisted up a bit. I have watched you say this is the best machine ever to just about condemning it. So, I thought about it, and you were just going simply through learning the machines. Yeah it has its flaws, but I like it. I to run it in different modes at the same sites, over and over again. Enjoy it actually. A good challenge. BTW, you may know, the V6 that Deus lets you download is the Jan 13 2022 download. The 1st V of 6, as there were 3. Nice vid J.
Well, thank you for explaining this machine.. I was on the edge of selling my Nox 800. The fact is, I dont have time to fiddle with machines.. and im not willing to allocate that much time in learning.. I think the Nox 800 fits me like a glove in that regard. Thank you!
The complexity of the Deus 2 metal detector is one of the things I enjoy most about using it! Even after using some of the default programs in the machine, there is so much room for diversity among menu options! Even after watching numerous videos on the Deus 2, I am experimenting constantly trying new things and creating my own programs. It's an amazing machine with more potential than I've ever seen on another metal detector. 👍
I know one things for sure, NO one uses a detector like Paystreak, he knows what he is saying bc he actually uses the machine more than I have seen over 1500 different detectorist on RUclips.. Great Advice Paystreak, your giving away some very important info to help people understand their machine, because you are 1 with your machine it's incredible to watch
Starting out, I just used the Deus II stock programs, which worked fine. I've also developed a silver hunting program, which results in more treasure and less digging. In the lake, I use the General program and scoo[ everything except iron. It's a way to enjoy yourself without too much work.
I have actually noticed the same thing about full tones. I love full tones in Deus 1, that's only thing I basically used with that machine. But with Deus 2 five tones and pitch tones works way better for me 👍🏼👍🏼
PREACH!!! I'm about 2000 hours into learning the nox 800. Play with your machine and prepare for an education. Everyday is different because of atmospheric pressure, humidity, soil content and your mood. Listen to Jeremy; get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Jeremy, I just discovered something really odd. I was playing with civil war buttons to see if I could create a notch or tone breaks to see if I could sniff out buttons amongst the iron, trying to leave the really small stuff. Not sure which program but here’s what happened. I got good hits on a ragged eagle cuff button, great hit on eagle coat buttons, etc. then I dug out some of the nicest eagle buttons, loaded with gilt, and for some crazy reason, it would not hit those huge, perfect buttons. I’ve been at this since 1973, never seen that. Once I get done detecting tomorrow I will try to replicate it and video it. I’d love to send it to you when I do. Thanks bud for all you do
Best thing I ever did to help my Deus 2 was to sell it. I spent 250 hours on it and gave up. I think they put most of their R+D into making a diving machine and they did a great job at that.
All machines do the same thing! Create a magnetic field and find stuff! Freq yes is a thing, this will finetune so youll dig it or not. Im takin the D1 to all my playgrounds etc i have been b4 and finding stuff (silvers and clad). Imho i think the software is key to all this. I dig without numbers so the tones need to b full with me. I cant make it on 2 tones for i need more feedback from the ground etc. Iam getting better at it for i dig less junk ( i dig occasionally or on purpose just 2 b sure on tones ). But i agree on you on 1 thing… lots lots of hours man! Cuz when i think im there… nah i need more different sites to learn more 😄👍🏼
Hello, the videos you are posting are amazing, very understandable and thank you so much for doing this!! 😊 I have one question for you, the soil in the place where I live is Eutric Cambisol on carbonate rocks, marl and flysch, also some part clay, and a lot of forest…also many havy rainy days. I really appreciate if you help me choose now between nokta legend and XP DEUS2 FMF 11 WS6 Master, or you have better recommendation? Thanks in advance!
Listen to the professor, only had mine for 2 weeks still learning how to navigate the buttons, that said 2 Gold Rings in two weeks. Very Good Machine 👍
@@davidfrazier1186 Ha ha yes those round and Tongue pull tabs, 64 ish lol 😂 I dig clean tone 01 and 02 as often it new clad 1p / 5p / 10p as I’m a coin hoar lol 😂
Works really well on Uk soils, I think this machine has so many programs so many different frequencies and you can make your own programs that it will work on most soil types regardless of country. All the videos i have watched from many different beaches in different countries and it always works exceptionally well 🥳
I agree with you, bud. I see a lot of people going from a Simplex to a deus 2, lol, and just watch them struggling, lol. I went from a Simplex to a legend because I know I would adapt much better and I did. Even tho I don't have my Legend anymore cause someone stole my Legend with 2 garrett pinpointers . But yes I'm absolutely with you on the Deus 2 new users
I think also it’s really as simple As this though, I for one love tinkering and messing around with Orion’s and settings. For Some people that’s the fun and some not so much. If that’s you get it and if not stick with your nox.
Jeremy, thanks for taking the time to lay it all out in a way that I feel anyone reasonable should follow and agree. QUESTION; How do you feel the Deus 2 on mono compares to the Deus 1? What’s wild is there’s 12 different machines in the preset SMF programs, guess if you count mono programs it’s like that many more detectors? Second question about full tones. Have you communicated your thoughts on full tones to Deus factory? Thanks
I have communicated with XP several times about full tones and have given some suggestions. XP is working on full tones on the D2 right now. The Deus 1 full tones has great tonal advantages over the Deus 2 full tones at this time. The Deus 2 mono is hard to stabilize in harsh soil conditions compared to the Deus 1. The Deus 2 is a deeper machine but I am not much interested in depth right now. I will be using the Deus 2 underwater this summer.
5 tones is very difficult in totlots. Pitch is also difficult around the iron pipes. I use full tones in the totlots because I can separate targets by the tones.
Hello everyone! I had bought the D2 and went hunting on different fields, here are my results: - Dry soil as sawdust, not disced field, high stuble - went with modified relic program, to swing above wheat stuble, found coins and many good things, this was my first hunt, was very intresting, pitch tone is king! - Dry soil as sawdust, not disced field pressed down stuble, second time on this field, now with deep hc, got me a small roman coin from 20cm depth, no kidding, awesome in those circumstances! And others have already detected that field then. - Trying out programs in my garden, EMi high as sh1t, Deep hc was very effected to EMI likewise Relic. Sensitie and fast not so much, deus mono - man it was quite like a church mouse! 17 khz and not a squeak! Amazing! (I hunt with 9" coil) - Badly, i mean siriously badly beat up pasture with roman things there, dry soil and little bit tall grass. Deep hc got me 6 coins, and several little bronze sheets, bals, lead bullet etc... one coinf rom like 18 cm, gotta respect this machine! Sensitive hits a small 15mm diameter thin hammered coin at 18 cm in normally mineralized soil (base program) couldnt believe it! So to say I am amazed by this machine, will bring me lots of happy hours! The only thing that I miss is the manual ground balance in most programs, I liek to adjust my ground myself. But everything else is astounding to me!
good video good sense a lot of these u tubers are out yo get free machines pushing products for benefit i only have about four ppl on u tube i would say i could trust to be good well said
Bring some samples of your favorite finds out to the new ground and burry those targets and do settings and experiment with it . i always start out with Auto ground balance /tracking soil and then set it to that manual after a while if stabile mineralized soil all over the area
Hey thanks for your wisdom on different detectors I'm curious about the Legend I have one coming in the mail was wondering if you can do a video on The Legend and what settings work best at depth I mostly dig jewelry And do water hunting I dig all targets so I miss nothing
Great chat buddy. I really hope they sort the full tones on the d2. I really want them to work like the d1 . I know it will be possible in single if they did it with the d1 but do you think they can do it with the d2 in the multi. Seems to be very problematic and unusable in my opinion
I understand what you’re saying! I’m really struggling with getting the D2 to run right. Some days on a magnetic sand beach it will run smooth as silk, another day I can’t get it to quiet down? I have the 11 inch coil, in mineralised soil I end up turning the sensitivity way down, but then I’m losing depth. It’s frustrating!
All he said is correct . and in short you can not take programs from others and expect same results by far, well if on the same field same place it works out that we tried a lot with Deus 1 . a lot of people asking for "programs" in my international "XP Deus Group - Deus 2" Face Book group with 13K members ish . welcome to join
I like the remote because it has a loud external speaker and it has a bigger screen with easier to navigate menu than the WS6. The Deus 2 remote is also waterproof...the WS6 is not waterproof.
I think the people who have trouble with it, yes are new, but they take it to the toughest spot they know right off the bat and try learning around a cellar hole. If had any advice I’d say go to an open field or a park that’s not so trashy and just get a couple hundred hours in various programs/settings. Then take it back to the iron mine and throw it in stock fast and just dig the highs.
Jeremy You are the only person with so many hours detecting, who can answer to my question. we have a Pull tab and a small ring, reading the same number. Does oscilloscope of Deus2 discriminate those two? i mean , can i understand that the one is the pull tab and the other the small gold ring? Thank you so much for help.
The pultab and ring may give you the same vdi numbers but it will give you different tones if you are in full tones. It takes many many hours to understand and identify the differences between those tones. Targets can be on edge...so you just got to dig it all.
Used it today for first time with all programs at a very old site with many nails we already hit that site hard with the legend and have gotten lots of great spanish coins, Unfortunately all I got was nails at 86 to 90 VDi non ferrous I see videos talking about the deus 2 but I didnt seem to make it not detect those nails or at least mark them as ferrous...
Read the online XP Deus 2 Manual to get an idea if the detector is something that you can get a grip on or not. Watch some tutorial videos for the same reason. Gary Blackwell has some great how-to videos here on RUclips. If you have a chance go to a dealer and ask to try one out. You may be surprised to find out that the Deus 2 isn't as difficult as you'd thought. And if it is too complicated for your type of detecting than at least you know it and can buy another detector without any regrets or wondering if you did the right thing. Good luck!
This is an older video as the program parameters have changed since I posted this video due to software updates. There is a range selector for the multi frequency programs now called frequency max. I have found the most targets and have the most stable operation in 40khz max. The programs are still frequency specific, but now the max frequency range can be adjusted.
Spoken like a pro I’m in the uk just returned from a dig and the ground was rock hard all cracked and struggled in sensitive ft it was like the signals weren’t clear enough . Once I found a target. I found 11 coins but just didn’t sound right one silver 1945 wish isn’t 100 % I watch your videos you know your stuff any help would be appreciated
Also dry ground is not as conductive.........you should never expect perfect tones in super hard dry soil. Nor in gravel. NOr in sand. Nor in............you get the idea. Different conditions, different results.
can you be more specific on 5 tones working better than full tones? i realize the full tones may not be "as good as the d1" but what does 5 tones do that full tones doesnt do? i would rather hear different sounds for different targets rather than grouping them into a set of 5 tones.
Changing the tones changes how the software decides how to categorize targets as well as how that software makes them sound regardless of any other performance gains or losses. Anything that gets you to dig more will find you more and different people like different tone patterns. It's not that the machine won't hit every target using various tones, it's that those targets sound better or worse to you personally. Imagine if you only had one single tone.......things could get confusing really fast and you'd have to dig every single target forever especially without a screen and ID number. So the various tones are there for you to find what works best for you at any given time. Too many tones can get confusing as well.....if you're in a modern trashy park full of foil chunks and can slaw then having too many tones may create so much noise your head hurts. Lowering the tone options will help you zone in on the key targets you want to dig.
@@MrBottlecapBill thank you for your reply. so it isnt changing anything on the machine end. it just helps people think something sounds better? i still dont really get it. i would rather have full tones so i can hear everything thats different. what if you have a target teetering on the tone break? then it would sound terrible. at least with full tones it will sound almost exactly the same. maybe i am missing here but people are talking about 5 tones being better like its a performance advantage with the detector itself.
full tones on the Deus 1, was the same in the iron, the low and mid tones would be dragged down by the iron and blend in to the iron tone , found pitch the best in the iron with the Deus 1
i never used the deus before i had the Nox 600 .i bought the Deus 2 and just love it .Im in Canada and our newer coins are real hard to hit with all detectors .i did a few hrs of testing with the D2 and i got that thing hitting all the coins real good and hitting everything good I did my own program and it works good .The Nox cant hit on these coins it hit them in the Negatives so i gotta have the all metal on . ill never go back to the Nox
Fellas not in oregon or maybe from al to va power button,freq scan detect! I dont even ground balance and absolutely killin relics past 3 months! I do gb at home in va but in al clay it's a gb of 80+ so no need. Any program non beach just dig 2 way signals and use general in wet ground!
Think I'm lying about slaying relics go by detector prospector check out commonwealthdetector!;) fulltones is a no go in thick iron keep to pitch or low number tones you will be happy
The equinox doesnt compare in thick co-located target hunting D2 9" it just will not keep up! And yes I have both nox,d2 and in iron it's not fair with pitch tones.
This is allfine and Dandy but u are rolling the dice when u find a new spot/homesite/civil war site , as this state (virginia) has been hunted HARD !!!! And it is a true pain in the ass starting out with the D2 not knowing how these sites have been hunted
Yeh, d2 is useless in full tones, i tested it a lot, i would pass over targets like crazy, but pitch is a game changer, nothing escapes pitch..vacuums everything
Just subscribed because what you just explained is GOLD. When I heard your words you spoke and realized it’s exactly what I know to be true WITH ALL MACHINES I knew I could follow you because you know what
You are talking about.
I really appreciate your insight, full of knowledge and facts.
Thanks for sharing. I starting to go back to my Cortez but I'll stick with it.
I tested that elevated nail test this morning and it would hit it in stock park program.
Very well said Paystreak. Many thanks.
I totally agree, Some programs hit it and others don't, but this is a site to site difference. Not all soils are the same. Good thing is you can adjust for it. I do a lot of farms and wire fences have been a problem. I learned to lower the audio response and it will clear up the EMI interference. Thanks for sharing. You are helping me learn the machine. Thanks
Sensitivity is the last setting I change to stabilize the machine. Audio response has a huge difference on EMI.
Thanks for this , it puts things in correct perspective for me.
words of wisdom from the BOSS baby. listen up Guy’s you couldn’t pay for what this Guy’s telling you for free..
Hes eating and sleeping MD man! I cant afford that… that being said most of us are doing it with 1/2 machines. Still 2 master a machine it takes time! But alot of people around me dont take that time! Its good as it is… and theres where is goes south! Iam rockin the D1 for over a year and still learning it! Not a day is the same i noticed.. emi or the ground or whatever. 😊
For those of us that "can chew gum and walk", you can master the D2 in a couple weeks. It's not rocket science the learning of the D2.
Well explained Paysteak your right some of these vids regarding testing with nails testing it in their bedroom lol you can tell they know nowt they just newbies trying to make a few bob of youtube . love your input man and Calabash great info from you both good luck
Totally agree, bought the Deus 1 with 9 inch coil first year it came out and it was amazing at that time, yes bought other machines as you do, I have only picked up to compared signals once using Nox 800 against Deus and been exclusively Xp Deus 2 since, as you say its a fantastic machine if you are into fiddling with the setting and trying all the programs on each target to learn, i have done air tests on alot Uk coins and many bottle caps and ring pulls, lead, foil, iron and listened to the sounds and VDI numbers with and without bottle cap on just to learn and VDI number are can change between out the ground and under depending on the type of metal, bottom line will be type of person using it, some folks just want simple turn on and go machine, I’m with you to dial it in, if you run this machine hot and open it can find the tiniest thin 3mm x 3mm foil and my pin pointer can not find it and from mint packets and rings up 32 VDI and clean signal, got to dig them to find out what it is to learn or you will learn nothing, in life if things were easy everybody would be doing it but most people are lazy or have an excuse for it.
Yes I agree. I have 2 Nox 800s, 1 Deus 1, 1 Garrett 400i, a PulseDive, my own machine from 1976 and several cheap machines. I have numerous coils from 4 inches to 15 inches. All those detectors can find stuff the others miss .
It is all about selecting the right detector, coil and settings for the day.
I found 2 bucket listers with the Nox 800 in the last couple of months but really good stuff with the D1 and Garrett too. I am getting my old 1976 machine running again and back in the day it found bucket listers too.
Some conditions favour just one detector but in some conditions I use several detectors and coils. 👍
@@detector2guns I designed the first discriminating detectors that actually worked well on the beach, sea, sand and land with minimal adjustments between. So I could go from the dry sand into the waves with little adjustment, in the early 1970s. I found a small roman coin in the sea on the first test of my prototype. So I am not a jack of all trades but I am experienced in Electronics and Computer Engineering.
Awesome Jeremy! Was thinking about what you said about what the machine is telling you in order to dial it in in different conditions. What would really be awesome is in future videos if you could take a few seconds at the start of your hunts and video what the machine is telling you to do to dial it in. That would be HUGE info for us… and watch your views go off the chart.
I enjoy your vids. Been watching a long time and you taught me a thing or two with the XPD1. Actually more than 2. However, this XPD2 looks like its got you twisted up a bit. I have watched you say this is the best machine ever to just about condemning it. So, I thought about it, and you were just going simply through learning the machines. Yeah it has its flaws, but I like it. I to run it in different modes at the same sites, over and over again. Enjoy it actually. A good challenge. BTW, you may know, the V6 that Deus lets you download is the Jan 13 2022 download. The 1st V of 6, as there were 3. Nice vid J.
Well, thank you for explaining this machine.. I was on the edge of selling my Nox 800. The fact is, I dont have time to fiddle with machines.. and im not willing to allocate that much time in learning.. I think the Nox 800 fits me like a glove in that regard. Thank you!
The complexity of the Deus 2 metal detector is one of the things I enjoy most about using it! Even after using some of the default programs in the machine, there is so much room for diversity among menu options! Even after watching numerous videos on the Deus 2, I am experimenting constantly trying new things and creating my own programs. It's an amazing machine with more potential than I've ever seen on another metal detector. 👍
indeed it is .. same thoughts and use here
I know one things for sure, NO one uses a detector like Paystreak, he knows what he is saying bc he actually uses the machine more than I have seen over 1500 different detectorist on RUclips.. Great Advice Paystreak, your giving away some very important info to help people understand their machine, because you are 1 with your machine it's incredible to watch
Thank you Mandy!!
Wow thanks a lot! You keep your word :D Respect Jeremy!
Grandma Superfreak always speaking the truth 💯💯💯🫵
Starting out, I just used the Deus II stock programs, which worked fine. I've also developed a silver hunting program, which results in more treasure and less digging. In the lake, I use the General program and scoo[ everything except iron. It's a way to enjoy yourself without too much work.
Love my deus 2. Its the best detector I have ever swung.
I have actually noticed the same thing about full tones. I love full tones in Deus 1, that's only thing I basically used with that machine. But with Deus 2 five tones and pitch tones works way better for me 👍🏼👍🏼
Same with me!!
PREACH!!! I'm about 2000 hours into learning the nox 800. Play with your machine and prepare for an education. Everyday is different because of atmospheric pressure, humidity, soil content and your mood. Listen to Jeremy; get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Good video
Wise words.
Jeremy, I just discovered something really odd. I was playing with civil war buttons to see if I could create a notch or tone breaks to see if I could sniff out buttons amongst the iron, trying to leave the really small stuff. Not sure which program but here’s what happened. I got good hits on a ragged eagle cuff button, great hit on eagle coat buttons, etc. then I dug out some of the nicest eagle buttons, loaded with gilt, and for some crazy reason, it would not hit those huge, perfect buttons. I’ve been at this since 1973, never seen that. Once I get done detecting tomorrow I will try to replicate it and video it. I’d love to send it to you when I do. Thanks bud for all you do
Best thing I ever did to help my Deus 2 was to sell it. I spent 250 hours on it and gave up. I think they put most of their R+D into making a diving machine and they did a great job at that.
All machines do the same thing! Create a magnetic field and find stuff! Freq yes is a thing, this will finetune so youll dig it or not. Im takin the D1 to all my playgrounds etc i have been b4 and finding stuff (silvers and clad). Imho i think the software is key to all this. I dig without numbers so the tones need to b full with me. I cant make it on 2 tones for i need more feedback from the ground etc. Iam getting better at it for i dig less junk ( i dig occasionally or on purpose just 2 b sure on tones ). But i agree on you on 1 thing… lots lots of hours man! Cuz when i think im there… nah i need more different sites to learn more 😄👍🏼
Hello, the videos you are posting are amazing, very understandable and thank you so much for doing this!! 😊
I have one question for you, the soil in the place where I live is Eutric Cambisol on carbonate rocks, marl and flysch, also some part clay, and a lot of forest…also many havy rainy days.
I really appreciate if you help me choose now between nokta legend and XP DEUS2 FMF 11 WS6 Master, or you have better recommendation?
Thanks in advance!
Listen to the professor, only had mine for 2 weeks still learning how to navigate the buttons, that said 2 Gold Rings in two weeks. Very Good Machine 👍
Just asking, did you find gold rings on beach ?? And what was the VDI numbers 😀
@@Windsurfingaddict yes 43
@@davidfrazier1186
Thank you for the reply, that is so close to foil targets, so have to dig them from now on incase I miss the gold lol 😂
Lots of pull tabs too 64,nickel 61,dime 92, quarter 97,penny 87 silver ring 99
@@davidfrazier1186
Ha ha yes those round and Tongue pull tabs, 64 ish lol 😂 I dig clean tone 01 and 02 as often it new clad 1p / 5p / 10p as I’m a coin hoar lol 😂
I could be totally wrong just a thought, The engineers tuned them machine and coils in Europe . Just a thought 💭 great video thank you .
Works really well on Uk soils, I think this machine has so many programs so many different frequencies and you can make your own programs that it will work on most soil types regardless of country. All the videos i have watched from many different beaches in different countries and it always works exceptionally well 🥳
I agree with you, bud. I see a lot of people going from a Simplex to a deus 2, lol, and just watch them struggling, lol. I went from a Simplex to a legend because I know I would adapt much better and I did. Even tho I don't have my Legend anymore cause someone stole my Legend with 2 garrett pinpointers .
But yes I'm absolutely with you on the Deus 2 new users
I think also it’s really as simple
As this though, I for one love tinkering and messing around with Orion’s and settings. For Some people that’s the fun and some not so much. If that’s you get it and if not stick with your nox.
Jeremy, thanks for taking the time to lay it all out in a way that I feel anyone reasonable should follow and agree. QUESTION; How do you feel the Deus 2 on mono compares to the Deus 1? What’s wild is there’s 12 different machines in the preset SMF programs, guess if you count mono programs it’s like that many more detectors? Second question about full tones. Have you communicated your thoughts on full tones to Deus factory? Thanks
I have communicated with XP several times about full tones and have given some suggestions. XP is working on full tones on the D2 right now. The Deus 1 full tones has great tonal advantages over the Deus 2 full tones at this time. The Deus 2 mono is hard to stabilize in harsh soil conditions compared to the Deus 1. The Deus 2 is a deeper machine but I am not much interested in depth right now. I will be using the Deus 2 underwater this summer.
I Agree … 👍
Good stuff Paystreak. Which do you like best for tot lots/gold, 5 tones or Pitch Tones? Thanks.
5 tones is very difficult in totlots. Pitch is also difficult around the iron pipes. I use full tones in the totlots because I can separate targets by the tones.
Hello everyone! I had bought the D2 and went hunting on different fields, here are my results:
- Dry soil as sawdust, not disced field, high stuble - went with modified relic program, to swing above wheat stuble, found coins and many good things, this was my first hunt, was very intresting, pitch tone is king!
- Dry soil as sawdust, not disced field pressed down stuble, second time on this field, now with deep hc, got me a small roman coin from 20cm depth, no kidding, awesome in those circumstances! And others have already detected that field then.
- Trying out programs in my garden, EMi high as sh1t, Deep hc was very effected to EMI likewise Relic. Sensitie and fast not so much, deus mono - man it was quite like a church mouse! 17 khz and not a squeak! Amazing! (I hunt with 9" coil)
- Badly, i mean siriously badly beat up pasture with roman things there, dry soil and little bit tall grass. Deep hc got me 6 coins, and several little bronze sheets, bals, lead bullet etc... one coinf rom like 18 cm, gotta respect this machine!
Sensitive hits a small 15mm diameter thin hammered coin at 18 cm in normally mineralized soil (base program) couldnt believe it!
So to say I am amazed by this machine, will bring me lots of happy hours! The only thing that I miss is the manual ground balance in most programs, I liek to adjust my ground myself. But everything else is astounding to me!
good video good sense a lot of these u tubers are out yo get free machines pushing products for benefit i only have about four ppl on u tube i would say i could trust to be good well said
Bring some samples of your favorite finds out to the new ground and burry those targets and do settings and experiment with it . i always start out with Auto ground balance /tracking soil and then set it to that manual after a while if stabile mineralized soil all over the area
What if that site has none of those same finds? All sites have different densities of trash and different artifacts.
Hey thanks for your wisdom on different detectors
I'm curious about the Legend I have one coming in the mail was wondering if you can do a video on The Legend and what settings work best at depth I mostly dig jewelry
And do water hunting I dig all targets so I miss nothing
I can do that!
Great chat buddy. I really hope they sort the full tones on the d2. I really want them to work like the d1 . I know it will be possible in single if they did it with the d1 but do you think they can do it with the d2 in the multi. Seems to be very problematic and unusable in my opinion
You and me both!
I understand what you’re saying! I’m really struggling with getting the D2 to run right.
Some days on a magnetic sand beach it will run smooth as silk, another day I can’t get it to quiet down?
I have the 11 inch coil, in mineralised soil I end up turning the sensitivity way down, but then I’m losing depth.
It’s frustrating!
You can drop the audio response down to stabilize too. The Deus 2 is very finniky. I could only imagine how hard it would be with the 11" coil.
All he said is correct . and in short you can not take programs from others and expect same results by far, well if on the same field same place it works out that we tried a lot with Deus 1 . a lot of people asking for "programs" in my international "XP Deus Group - Deus 2" Face Book group with 13K members ish . welcome to join
Great video. Can't afford a D2 but I have a ORX. Would it be worth the upgrade to go to a Deus 1. I have a few coils invested.
If you already have a few coils for the ORX... the Deus 1 would be the next level. All you need is a remote.
Do you think it’s worth it to get the ws6 version of the deus 2? Or is it much much better with the regular remote?
I like the remote because it has a loud external speaker and it has a bigger screen with easier to navigate menu than the WS6. The Deus 2 remote is also waterproof...the WS6 is not waterproof.
I think the people who have trouble with it, yes are new, but they take it to the toughest spot they know right off the bat and try learning around a cellar hole. If had any advice I’d say go to an open field or a park that’s not so trashy and just get a couple hundred hours in various programs/settings. Then take it back to the iron mine and throw it in stock fast and just dig the highs.
For those of us that "can chew gum and walk", you can master the D2 in a couple weeks. It's not rocket science the learning of the D2.
the D2 blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chew on thqt
Jeremy You are the only person with so many hours detecting, who can answer to my question.
we have a Pull tab and a small ring, reading the same number. Does oscilloscope of Deus2 discriminate those two?
i mean , can i understand that the one is the pull tab and the other the small gold ring?
Thank you so much for help.
The pultab and ring may give you the same vdi numbers but it will give you different tones if you are in full tones. It takes many many hours to understand and identify the differences between those tones. Targets can be on edge...so you just got to dig it all.
Used it today for first time with all programs at a very old site with many nails we already hit that site hard with the legend and have gotten lots of great spanish coins, Unfortunately all I got was nails at 86 to 90 VDi non ferrous I see videos talking about the deus 2 but I didnt seem to make it not detect those nails or at least mark them as ferrous...
So upgrading from the AT Pro...is the Deus 2 too much or should I get a Legend? I have only ever used Garrett machines.
The Deus 2 is probably not a good fit for you of you have only used Garretts.
Read the online XP Deus 2 Manual to get an idea if the detector is something that you can get a grip on or not. Watch some tutorial videos for the same reason. Gary Blackwell has some great how-to videos here on RUclips. If you have a chance go to a dealer and ask to try one out. You may be surprised to find out that the Deus 2 isn't as difficult as you'd thought. And if it is too complicated for your type of detecting than at least you know it and can buy another detector without any regrets or wondering if you did the right thing. Good luck!
Hey buddy I have never used a Deus are you saying that each program has a set unadjustable freq?
This is an older video as the program parameters have changed since I posted this video due to software updates. There is a range selector for the multi frequency programs now called frequency max. I have found the most targets and have the most stable operation in 40khz max. The programs are still frequency specific, but now the max frequency range can be adjusted.
Spoken like a pro I’m in the uk just returned from a dig and the ground was rock hard all cracked and struggled in sensitive ft it was like the signals weren’t clear enough . Once I found a target. I found 11 coins but just didn’t sound right one silver 1945 wish isn’t 100 % I watch your videos you know your stuff any help would be appreciated
Full tones is not doing so good on the Deus 2 right now. XP is working on a fix. Pitch works awesome.
Also dry ground is not as conductive.........you should never expect perfect tones in super hard dry soil. Nor in gravel. NOr in sand. Nor in............you get the idea. Different conditions, different results.
can you be more specific on 5 tones working better than full tones? i realize the full tones may not be "as good as the d1" but what does 5 tones do that full tones doesnt do? i would rather hear different sounds for different targets rather than grouping them into a set of 5 tones.
Changing the tones changes how the software decides how to categorize targets as well as how that software makes them sound regardless of any other performance gains or losses. Anything that gets you to dig more will find you more and different people like different tone patterns. It's not that the machine won't hit every target using various tones, it's that those targets sound better or worse to you personally. Imagine if you only had one single tone.......things could get confusing really fast and you'd have to dig every single target forever especially without a screen and ID number. So the various tones are there for you to find what works best for you at any given time. Too many tones can get confusing as well.....if you're in a modern trashy park full of foil chunks and can slaw then having too many tones may create so much noise your head hurts. Lowering the tone options will help you zone in on the key targets you want to dig.
@@MrBottlecapBill thank you for your reply. so it isnt changing anything on the machine end. it just helps people think something sounds better? i still dont really get it. i would rather have full tones so i can hear everything thats different. what if you have a target teetering on the tone break? then it would sound terrible. at least with full tones it will sound almost exactly the same. maybe i am missing here but people are talking about 5 tones being better like its a performance advantage with the detector itself.
@@impact9801 I think 5 tone may give the chance at deeper finds where as the full tones gives better separation for near surface objects
Options* I haven’t figured out the telescope function yet lol.
full tones on the Deus 1, was the same in the iron, the low and mid tones would be dragged down by the iron and blend in to the iron tone , found pitch the best in the iron with the Deus 1
i never used the deus before i had the Nox 600 .i bought the Deus 2 and just love it .Im in Canada and our newer coins are real hard to hit with all detectors .i did a few hrs of testing with the D2 and i got that thing hitting all the coins real good and hitting everything good I did my own program and it works good .The Nox cant hit on these coins it hit them in the Negatives so i gotta have the all metal on . ill never go back to the Nox
Are your modern coins iron cores? I find most machines don't like the modern crap. ✌️ 🙏🏼
@@leeredpath1 the tarsacci mdt does it very well ,whit constant-29 ID in all kind of envoroment
@@leeredpath1 ya the 2000+ coins are nickel plated steal .. but the older coins are fine
@@geterdone171 yes in the uk most our small modern coins after 1994 are the same. 👍🙏🏼
@@2003rgalan cool 🙂👍
Привіт з України, все вірно говориш, деус2 машина розумна.
Лайк та підписка
callabash had somethings to brag bout d2 aswell
Fellas not in oregon or maybe from al to va power button,freq scan detect! I dont even ground balance and absolutely killin relics past 3 months! I do gb at home in va but in al clay it's a gb of 80+ so no need. Any program non beach just dig 2 way signals and use general in wet ground!
Think I'm lying about slaying relics go by detector prospector check out commonwealthdetector!;) fulltones is a no go in thick iron keep to pitch or low number tones you will be happy
The equinox doesnt compare in thick co-located target hunting D2 9" it just will not keep up! And yes I have both nox,d2 and in iron it's not fair with pitch tones.
By the time I master the deus 2 the deus 3 will be out
The Deus 3 will probably be out of my price range. Really all I need is the Deus 1 with all the coils.
Forget D1 when you are using D2 don't compare them for full tones and you will see different light .
This is allfine and Dandy but u are rolling the dice when u find a new spot/homesite/civil war site , as this state (virginia) has been hunted HARD !!!! And it is a true pain in the ass starting out with the D2 not knowing how these sites have been hunted
To much tweaking not necessarily a good thing.. To me it's a defect.
EXACTLY!!
And dig tinfoil if you want non ring gold lol!
Lol
Yeh, d2 is useless in full tones, i tested it a lot, i would pass over targets like crazy, but pitch is a game changer, nothing escapes pitch..vacuums everything
The Deus 2 thrives in pitch tones....so does the Deus 1.
I can take my $300 mx7 and find as much as any other detector l
16 mins. Of nothing that could have been said in two.
You can increase your RUclips video playback speed to 2...just sayin!!
End of the day let’s be honest it’s 💩 it’s a good machine that’s it , for the cost it’s absolutely useless