Should you use a big coil or small coil on your metal detector? Lets sit down!!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2023
  • Contrary to popular belief, small coils may cover more ground than big coils in trashy conditions.

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  • @kevinsanderson603
    @kevinsanderson603 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm using a 15" coil , I swing low and slow ....I take my time , it's not a race to cover a field , I use the the big coil to get better depth ...I'll change back to a smaller coil when I've got restricted space to swing the machine , ive just found a charles 1st hammered silver shilling dated no later than 1649 as he was executedin 1649.......kev....xkxxx

  • @In.Cognito.Metal.Detecting
    @In.Cognito.Metal.Detecting 11 месяцев назад +2

    I do like the snipper coils! Large coils are much harder to swing in water as well 👍😎

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      Swinging 11" coils in water is a huge buzzkill. Small/medium coils are best for water.

  • @mrbungle1990
    @mrbungle1990 11 месяцев назад +3

    I like your thought process here and totally agree with you. I find hunting with a smaller coil more enjoyable, and not just due to the weight difference. I bought the Deus 2 originally with the 12 inch coil back when they were really hard to find but the whole time I wishing I had the 9 inch coil. Now that I have the 12 inch and the 9 inch, I'd say 85-90% of the time I hunt with the 9 inch. I know a 9 inch coil isn't exactly small but that coil separates very well on the Deus 2 and is suprisingly deep as well. You really can't go wrong with it. You made a nice video and some really good advice and observations here.

  • @dispatched.
    @dispatched. 11 месяцев назад

    Super informative. Situational settings on how the different size coils work within certain grounds. Getting out the top targets first when needed. Good stuff when you want that extra step detecting.💯

  • @Christofuzz-hc9xl
    @Christofuzz-hc9xl 11 месяцев назад

    First 2 minutes says it all. Explains alot just right there.
    Thanks for the rest of the video too,lol.

  • @shadymaint1
    @shadymaint1 10 месяцев назад

    I've had a 6 inch coil on my Equinox 800 for a couple years now and absolutely love it.

  • @neilrossow7964
    @neilrossow7964 11 месяцев назад

    good and informitave video. I'll be changing to my smaller coil.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      Some places like the beach or pasture will require a bigger coil.

  • @Stanrss1
    @Stanrss1 11 месяцев назад

    I really like the way you explained this.. I’m also in totally agreement with you.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching and commenting Stan. Sometimes it is hard to explain things when I am out metal detecting. It is easier to explain things when I can clear my head and think about what my subject is.

  • @rodmanning7114
    @rodmanning7114 11 месяцев назад

    Very good information. Glad you shared.

  • @BruceGordon925
    @BruceGordon925 11 месяцев назад +1

    My tube channel (Silent Bruce) 3D detecting, Each coil has a "Focal point" As you mention with a large coil it focuses deep and the more shallow stuff "Masks" the deep signals. A large coil gets too many signals in the detection coil field. As you say. I hunt civil war relics in the woods, Often I have 6 inches of leaves, short brush. Using a large coil it's 6 inches above the ground, Making my focal point 6 inches more shallow. A small coil loses to much depth being as high as it has to be.
    Coils used are determined by the location you're hunting. I've been at it over 40 years, Each hunt I need to learn, They all are different. Good points in your video.

  • @justminifigs
    @justminifigs 4 месяца назад

    Thank you brother!

  • @tomcharbonneau9788
    @tomcharbonneau9788 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks Jeremy for this video, I really prefer smaller coils too. Easier on the arm and more finds. I'm still waiting for my lg24 and know I'm going to be more successful with it. I've learned much from your videos and appreciate how you explain things. Thanks again and look forward to my new coil and your next video.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for watching! You will really like the LG24 coil Tom!!

  • @detectorguy4565
    @detectorguy4565 11 месяцев назад

    I found my best find ever with the smallest coil made for that machine. So every machine I have has a smaller or smallest coil on it and that is what I hunt with. Great for getting between the trash :) Yeah
    Thanks for the video

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool! I have also found my best finds with small coils.

  • @PescatoreFocoso
    @PescatoreFocoso 11 месяцев назад +1

    i start with the deus2 with 9 coil because i want to go in beach between the umbrella and beach chairs and i know there is trash and need to be very fast and selective or i waste time, after some time i pick the 11 coil for winter because aftet the storm surge the target one day are in surface and the day after be under 15-20 cm so need to go a little more deep and notice che 9 coil have difficulty to pick up the target and make a good sound, add the rumor of wave cant hear the target very well so with the 11 i resolve

  • @edwardsmith4183
    @edwardsmith4183 11 месяцев назад

    Great information!

  • @ohdannyboyjustadiggin
    @ohdannyboyjustadiggin 11 месяцев назад

    Cool man. I like using the small coils because if I hit trashy spot I like to narrow in between to hope it the goods. Plus you can get into tighter spots. Thanks for sharing. Happy Hunting and will be checking out your videos with new toys.. Peace

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Danny!! I like small coils because they get through the minerals much better than big coils.

    • @ohdannyboyjustadiggin
      @ohdannyboyjustadiggin 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaystreakSuperfreak Keep that in mind too. on Soil conditions. The only time I like to use the stock coil is on the beach or if I want a quick scan over the grounds that might be a good place to hunt.

  • @pinoymetaldetecting9179
    @pinoymetaldetecting9179 11 месяцев назад

    Nice video my friend 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @pinoymetaldetecting9179
    @pinoymetaldetecting9179 3 месяца назад

    Nice tips 👍👍👍👍

  • @captnse
    @captnse 11 месяцев назад +1

    Jeremy, I could think of only 3 parks here in Los Angeles you could hunt your entire remaining yrs of your life the way you detect…..and you still wouldn’t dig all the targets in the ground before your final days…..We should all let our locales we hunt dictate how we should go about digging targets….I’ve been hunting for 40 yrs here, and none of my buddies I used to hunt with dig like you and your buddies do on your locale….it would be futile to hunt your way over here….we all use standard coils, even though we’ve all tried downsizing our stock 11” coils in the past, only to revert back to our tried and true stock coils. Of course our primary focus is not for gold in our parks because of the plethora of trash targets…our goal is deep silver coins and older targets at depths we know they exist at….We have dug tens of thousands of silver coins, wheat cents, Indians, sterling jewelry, and clad quarters over the past 18 yrs with multi-freq detectors and a double D standard stock coil. There’s enough of these targets to detect and dig to last a lifetime…and there’s like over 500 parks here that date in the silver coin era. At a school yard or the beach, I’d be more willing to dig nearly every signal my detector hits above small foil….because we’re targeting the older, higher conductors most of the time in these parks, we will still dig solid sounding nickel signals at any depth or the deeper lower conductors from time to time and be rewarded with a gold ring, V nickel, or Buffalo or other lower conductor artifacts ……old park scrapes, vacant foundations, or sand detecting is a different story…we’ll be more apt to dig every signal. We thoroughly enjoy detecting our parks like this, angling just for the deeper stuff amongst a sea of trash layers…we never second guess our style of hunting here….we look forward to the challenge of picking thru the trash to locate our deeper keepers….yes, we will never find all of those deep targets because of the masking effects of shallower clad/trash….we’ve been hunting the same old parks for nearly two decades and still finding deep targets amongst the years of trash buildup….like you’ve said many times in your videos, the ability to hear deeper targets amongst layers of shallower targets is complex, and involves many different environmental factors and hunting styles to continue to find those targets that most hunters think don’t exist anymore. I do, however, pick up all visual crown caps, pull tabs, screw caps most times……we are a team of low and slow hunters here down in our older, trashy parks….moving fast is futile to our targeted prizes. I have recovered a couple of pounds of gold over the past few decades from beach detecting…I’m thankful I can hunt surf or turf in my locale whenever I want to change my hunt style and look for different precious metals…Keep on keepin’ on!! 👍🏼

  • @digtilldarkdetecting363
    @digtilldarkdetecting363 9 месяцев назад

    Because of watching this video I have added a 6 in coil to my legend. I already had one for my equinox. I have been out 3 times now using the technique swing fast dig it all. First 2 days I found jewelry with the equinox. Junker ring an enameled lapel pin and a Pandora heart charm silver with Swarovski crystals on it as a result of using this technique. Thanks for the informative vids really enjoy them. Also I'm using my legend more and more over the equinox I think it's a better machine not by a lot but better.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  9 месяцев назад +1

      Sweet!! Swing fast to get the shallow jewelry. Higher frequencies will hit deeper coins too. We always use single frequency on the Legend. We find lots and lots of jewelry in 20khz and 40khz. Very seldom will we ever use multi frequency on the Legend.

    • @digtilldarkdetecting363
      @digtilldarkdetecting363 9 месяцев назад

      Using the techniques I learned watching you tonight nokta 6 in coil digging it all 14k 22.2 grams cuban link men's bracelet. Nokta legend recovery 8 M3 solid 22 3 in deep. Thanks for the tutorials I've learned a ton and have a whole new way of hunting thanks bud.

  • @CanYouDigItMetalDetecting
    @CanYouDigItMetalDetecting 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Godfather Speaks 💯💯💯

  • @williampaxton871
    @williampaxton871 11 месяцев назад

    Very interesting discussion. In beach hunting a lot of guys use large coils for coverage as opposed to depth. The downside, as you mention, is fatigue. The big coils just wear you out. Every guy I know who has an Equinox 800 and got the big coil has switched back to the stock coil. I will add that in my personal experience, the depth advantage of large coils is negligible. I have used both the large coil and 11" stock coil on my 800 at the beach and have not noticed a depth advantage with the bigger one.

    • @digginggopher
      @digginggopher 11 месяцев назад

      I sure noticed the difference between the stock coil on the simplex and the small sp24 at the beach
      The stock coil which I think is 11inch worked fine at the beach, but the small coil suuuucked at the beach, thats why I should carry the stock coil In my backpack incase I make it to the beach

  • @Trafcon
    @Trafcon 11 месяцев назад +1

    Don't forget the benefit of the lighter weight of the small coil for us "somewhat older" folks ! 😅

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      Exactly!! We aint getting younger either.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      I got an ultra for my 60th birthday 1 pound lighter than my T2 . I can get get another hour of hunting before I'm over it.

  • @brianbloom1799
    @brianbloom1799 3 месяца назад

    You are so right, I have to buy a small coil, can’t stand my big one, I have a hard time pin pointing

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  3 месяца назад

      Exactly!! Small coils should be the stock coil on entry level detectors anyway. Older analog detectors did not have huge stock coils on them. Most of them had 7"- 9" coils stock from the factory.

  • @halleluyahpraiseyah6907
    @halleluyahpraiseyah6907 11 месяцев назад

    I agree medium size coils, not large coils, but a 4''' is mainly just too small for the area of a park.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree a 4"-6" coil only has limited usefulness. The 7"-9" coils are ideal for parks because there is just so much trash but still lots of jewelry.

  • @robertmattern2078
    @robertmattern2078 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve got the 9” & 11” coils for my Deus II. I far prefer the 9” coil. The 11” coil just seems to be a monstrosity. I hit an old ball field this year probably forty times. I did far better with the 9” coil. The 11” coil has greater depth but the 9” coil is lighter, separates targets better and the pinpointing is a lot easier. Most coins I found were at a depth of four to six inches which the 9” coil could easily smack them.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      I totally agree. Big coils work good for the beach or open pasture. 9" seems to be the happy medium

  • @Tesorosaprofunidad
    @Tesorosaprofunidad 11 месяцев назад +1

    I prefer standard coil
    And get another detector instead of collecting coils

  • @Equinox601
    @Equinox601 11 месяцев назад

    I definitely can cover more ground with the 15 inch nox coil. I’ve trained up to swing it fast. I’m tall, but not necessarily a big dude. But that’s just my experience in my ground.

  • @RussTNails-fw9ds
    @RussTNails-fw9ds 11 месяцев назад

    Recovery time always sorts the men from the boys😮😊

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      Everyone has different abilities. I will eventually become to old or maybe I might blow one of my knees out. I am very fortunate to be very healthy at my age...I think my diet makes me strong and healthy.

    • @USNVA-yn6cp
      @USNVA-yn6cp 2 месяца назад

      its not a race there speedy

  • @deegan1839
    @deegan1839 11 месяцев назад +1

    I found a rose gold bracelet I’m 13 with jewelry to sell to a gem buyer

  • @raybrock5917
    @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

    I use a nel sharpshooter on my t2 still hit 12 inch targets with solid id so if your machine is capable it should still hit deep.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад +1

      Once you swing over mineralized ground, your depth is decreased by half.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaystreakSuperfreak most of field areas I hunt are literally covered in nails pipe and sheet metal so I have to discrimante. I don't get that much depth there. And high in mineral as well. Our parks were made with fill dirt so they are not so bad.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaystreakSuperfreak the ultra isn't as effective in our fields here she likes nails. I don't dig nails with my green monster nor does the mojave dessert mess with her to much.probably the worst mineralized soil you will ever encounter. Hot rocks everything. I bought the ultra for the lake. Crazy black soil out there. Will see how she does. High 70s in the parks all over the map everywhere else gotta love mineral rich oilfields full of iron. Brass copper lead occasional silver. Out here if your rig can't discriminate iron nails you are in for a long day. It isn't possible to run all metal your machine will sing nonstop.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      The multi frequency machines don't get much depth in this soil for whatever reason. They just don't.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      I would give my right arm to have your hunting ground. We have 3 tiny parks and a decent ballpark. Not in my town we have 1 even smaller park. I have to drive 8 miles to hunt. 50 miles to anything bigger Bakersfield is the closest to me. High desert living. Blazing hot till November lol ground like concrete surrounded by oilfields fun stuff.

  • @davidfrazier1186
    @davidfrazier1186 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yes ,I used the Big 15" coil on the Nox...spent more time pin pointing than it was worth... Frustrating.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      I think 8"-9" is a good all around sized park coil. These manufacturers put out these new machines with huge coils. Big coils just too heavy.

    • @davidfrazier1186
      @davidfrazier1186 11 месяцев назад

      I Agree 👍...I was 30, 31 years ago !

  • @charlesmambourg4447
    @charlesmambourg4447 4 месяца назад

    Coil design Example: 6.5 round coil inside the 8" X 12" oval stock coil on the X Terra Pro. Flip a switch and the outer windings do a semi shutdown allowing the operator to use the interior windings as a "small coil". One coil does all. Just too common sense. But then you guys will cry about the heft.

  • @snapnpiksallthetime7672
    @snapnpiksallthetime7672 Месяц назад

    Pinpointing what do you do when u get a drift on your coil??

  • @raybrock5917
    @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

    New coils from Nokta are on the way to the U.S.

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      I will get the Ultra with the small coil thank you. I have absolutely no use for the 11" coil.

    • @raybrock5917
      @raybrock5917 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaystreakSuperfreak I hear ya , I really enjoy the separation gotta have it in trashy parks.

  • @ArmandoAnzaldua-tx7ew
    @ArmandoAnzaldua-tx7ew 11 месяцев назад

    Looks like people are not losing, much coins and jewelry this days compare to years back, most of my playing fields are city owned and they keep them locked with no trespassing signs. Don't see parks filled with people any longer.

    • @digginggopher
      @digginggopher 11 месяцев назад

      I found yesterday $5.67 at the ribfest grounds yesterday first day after the festival, then I went back today hoping i missed a bunch but not really only found $0.62
      Didnt find any jewelery, I think it has to be there somewhere, I'm just not swinging over it

    • @mrbungle1990
      @mrbungle1990 11 месяцев назад

      I agree with you that there are some places where you just "know" there has to be jewerly. I hunted a local park that isn't too old (just barely into the silver era) but people gather a couple times a year by up to a few thousand people at a time. I searched and searched that place for 3 years without finding gold and I was digging pretty much everything. Most of the high tones are gone due to cherry pickers so I spent time digging the mid to low tones out. Then I narrowed my search to the shade trees and park benches and got 2 wedding bands and an antique sterling ring from Ireland in just a couple of months. I learned that you can greatly increase your odds by searching hot spots in parks when you are searching for gold and digging tbe low tones.

  • @thomasc1421
    @thomasc1421 11 месяцев назад

    You need to mention that small coils are not adequate if your doing beaches,

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      I did not mention that in the videos but I have mentioned it in some of my comments on this video. Big coils will not work on my black sand beaches. My beaches in Oregon have layers and layers of black magnetic sand.

  • @nwbauer91
    @nwbauer91 4 месяца назад

    Would a big coil or small coil be better for smaller gold nuggets?

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  4 месяца назад +1

      It matters what detector you use, how much minerals are in the ground, how fast you swing, how deep the nugget is!! Way too many factors to mention what coil will work best. Generally speaking a smaller coil will do better for smaller targets.

    • @nwbauer91
      @nwbauer91 4 месяца назад

      @PaystreakSuperfreak Thanks. I'm using the legend. I have the 6 in and the lg30 coil. The ground is mineralized and has hot rocks out the ass. I keep getting dings at 26, but i think it's just the hot rocks. Does that sound about right? I'm not swinging very fast and was using the 6-inch coil. The ground is damp, and im sure that makes things harder. I can pick up about .4 g of gold i have in a vile, and it dings around 11.
      Would you have any recommendations for settings in that kind of terrain?

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  4 месяца назад

      Put that .4g speck over soil and see if the Legend will hit it....probably not!! The Legend might be able to hit it in open air...in the ground is where we are hunting. Small pieces under .5g will surely be very very very difficult to find in the ground for any VLF detector. The best way to know if your detector will find a piece that small is to bury that speck on the soil and see how deep it will find it. Every soil is different. Usually gold is in mineral rich areas...test your .4g gold speck in some hot ground.

    • @nwbauer91
      @nwbauer91 4 месяца назад

      @PaystreakSuperfreak So I did put it in soil and that's where I was getting that reading actually, but it wasn't out in the hot ground. So I will give that a go! Thanks. I'm getting ancy on the testing stage so I'm asking around. Treasure fever I suppose

  • @HistoryRevisiteduk
    @HistoryRevisiteduk 11 месяцев назад

    agree jeremy , bigger coils are sluggish anyway transmit and receive arnt as fast just relative to the size, especially in lower frequencies and recovery, My ground is alot diff than yours. i detect big open quite farm land so small coil doesn't cover as much land and feels like not getting anywhere, as the large. i maybe dig a target every 10 mins or so . if i do find a more populated patch ill just log it down and not even attempt to use the larger coil, and return with a smaller coil 👨‍🦯 all depends on the ground 👌

    • @PaystreakSuperfreak
      @PaystreakSuperfreak  11 месяцев назад

      For sure Liam!! The pasture and beach are 2 places where a big coil is a must. Most of our fields here in the US are plowed farmland and you can find old coins right on the surface. You are trying to go for ancient artifacts where you are at and we are trying to go for maybe a couple hundred year old old relics where we are at. Happy hunting and good luck Liam!!