Which Phalanx? The Shogun demo or the new one? I love the Phalanx from the new album, but I don't really like the demo. They improved so much trough the years
@@floridianthrasher5426 fucking true man please we need both. I literally listen to corey's cuts of the demos of shogun everyday with his voice over the audio
@@Dark74111 he couldnt keep it man. It would have destroyed his voice beyond repair in the long run unfortunately :( He is doing really well with the new techniques imo, he brings the best out of himself
@@bencepatyi4032 I don’t mean screaming I’m talking about the clean vocals he had in crusade and shogun I don’t think it would have strained his voice as much.
@@Dark74111 Its the same issue, the man can't pull that off like he did in his 20's. I mean Matt still uses that kind of "clean" raspy vocals in the studio, he does his best, and live he takes cares of him, so we can have more Trivium in the future
Was not expecting to hear Torn as the second half of this. Glad that both Phalanx and Torn exist as their own songs as they are two of my favorites. Thanks for sharing this, Matt.
I love this. The re-write has done wonders for this song. The demo is fantastic, but I feel as it is, it would have been a little lost on Shogun. Holding it back, and developing it with the experience gained in the interim made it one of Trivium's absolute best songs.
Paulo absolutely was correct to change the chorus. The current song is frankly fucking excellent. Its really cool to hear what it couldve sounded like in shogun though!
Very good decision to hide The Phalanx in 2008 because it is not in the same frequency with Shogun. But it is absolutely very good decision to put in album of 2021... And I think it is big musicianship to wait 13-14 years to find right album to put it into. Thanks Trivium for this art.
If this is indeed the 2008 demo, I’ll be stoked! Fond memories graduating high school and attempting college while blasting Ascendancy and The Crusade. Would love to see this era (2003-2008) revisited more!
Then prepare to be stoked, it is the 2008 demo! Matt already played it on his Twitch stream. It’s pretty good although the second part you’ll recognize as another Shogun song that it ended up becoming part of.
@@pasqualeaffatato there's a video here un RUclips, I believe someone recorded a Twitch episode of Corey, in wich he was talking about the shogun demos, and was listening those demos
Much better. Not to say that the final version is bad, it's absolute masterpiece but the Shogun version is just on another whole level of fucking masterpiece.
When i first found out this song was written way back i was gutted that it had existed for so long and we hadn't heard it. Now im glad it took so long as it matured and ripened perfectly with age. The demo was good but i dont think it would have had the same impact back then. Now was definitely the best time to bring this one out. Only question is now, what other gems is Mr Heafy hiding
as a long-time fan, I have to say it's super cool to see you reacting to old demos like this where even you don't know what's coming next. Also, I have to mention that's very admirable that you guys will sit on riffs and ideas for years until the time is right... you end up with 2 masterpieces instead of 1.
It's interesting to see how the song developed. I'm glad it was kept for ITCOTD and re-hashed. It fits the theme of that album better. But fucking god does this demo still slap 🤘
The layered vocals at the end where you hold "heart" over the refrain gave me massive chills upon my first listen to this at release - it is an absolutely massive closer.
I got to say, as a fan of Trivium when I was younger and having not been since in waves, the chorus in this version stands out, it's simple but the vocal melody is brilliant
I like both versions honestly. I’d love to have this version in iTunes though. I’m a big shogun fan though so that might be why I like this sound so much.
Commenting to echo the sentiments of the others. I NEED THIS DEMO RELEASED PLEASE. I love the chorus and well everything. Even the Torn Between bridge.
The weirdest thing is after the single was released and you spoke about it being a shogun leftover, I played Scylla right after because of the similar vibes (or maybe cuz scylla is my favorite off that album), not knowing that the two were one at the time.
I love hearing this stuff. Behind the scenes stuff and tour stories and things are intriguing to me. This song is my favorite on the record and to hear that it was conceptualized so long ago is cool.
I just listened to this side by side with the ITCOD version and noticed that the vocal melody in the chorus from the demo is used in the orchestration during the chorus of the new version. Very interesting!
I wish these demos were released for some shogun special release. Would be cool to hear these songs properly, especially Phalanx and Silence in the snow without all the skipping and talking
Living in hopes that Trivium one day release the demo versions from the archives. Day one buy as it is for all their albums so far. So glad we're getting to hear the demos after all this time rather than them never seeing the light of day.
It's always so cool hearing these demos. Honestly, I think it would be amazing if you did Ascent of the Phoenix and OG Silence in the Snow as bonus tracks or something.
It is incredible how the sound of the song was in the times of shogun and it is interesting and I think that either you are matt, or with the band launch online not an album, but a list of what they were the demos, songs and projects or ideas that did not come to light on the albums
Even though I always loved the band since maybe 2005, post 2012 was the era that I really follow and got really into the stuff of Trivium. And this album is by far my favorite. Maybe this is why.
I would absolutely love an upload of just the demo, as well as a rerecorded version... I love the new version of the song but that old chorus just hits different.
love the song Matt it helps my mind set..keep rocking on you beautyfull person your music helped me out in dark times and i Thank you Matt and your band mates
This was an interesting experience. No wonder I love The Phalanx so much, it was written between The Crusade and Shogun. This was quite the ride! Thank you for sharing!
When hearing the ablum promo, I was wondering which song took a piece from this song back then and shelved this one until now. Really cool to hear this early version; you guys made the right choice, in my opinion. I think the piece taken goes well in that song, and the new version of this one shows their growth as a band. It's also great to hear how much Matt's voice has improved, from all the hard work he's done. Like back then, he was fine, but he's gained so much power and control. Fun stuff to experience!
Incredible to hear this and compare it to the ITCOTD version. Both are phenomenal, and I love how you all have evolved as individuals and together as a band. Makes me wonder what other tracks there may be archived away that we haven't heard yet. 😉
Wow. Two of my favourite tracks combined lol. I'm sure if this was back on Shogun, I would have lost my shit to this. But you know what, fair play on holding off until now. The Phalanx as it was finally released sounds epic, and It sounds great with your new and improved vocal skills. In its current version, it has a Power Metal sort of feel which I don't think you'd have pulled off back then and that fresh Power Metal sound is what makes this song stand out. The ultimate lesson though, never completely throw away old ideas. It may just be that it's meant to be saved until the right time.
Omg this is so cool! The second half of the Phalanx (From ITCOTD) is definitely better and love the progressions and riffs but still so cool to hear this! There are 2 songs I desperately want to hear from SHogun era - Silence in the Snow original and Ascent of the phoenix. Please show us those :D
Still keep coming back to this a year later. Any chance this will get a release because I'd happily listen to it again and again, just without you talking over it lol.
![Trivium - The Phalanx [OFFICIAL VIDEO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yMoOqlhC-l4/mqdefault.jpg)
Dude, the phalanx was probably my favorite song off the album. The chorus alone gives me chills
The last minute is great too
my fav song ever, i was so sad they didnt play it live in prague 🥲
Which Phalanx? The Shogun demo or the new one? I love the Phalanx from the new album, but I don't really like the demo. They improved so much trough the years
"Malice Drips From All Your Holes" should be written into every divorce decree.
Dude, that's disgusting. I'm assuming you don't have a good/healthy love life.
Matt- "I sound so young."
We all were back then Matt, we all were so young back then.
The demo version was so good it needs to be uploaded seperately from the commentary !
Yeah what the fuck upload this and silence in the snow
@@floridianthrasher5426 да точно полная версия демо silence in the snow
@@floridianthrasher5426 fucking true man please we need both. I literally listen to corey's cuts of the demos of shogun everyday with his voice over the audio
@@juliodiaz1910 just the audio mainly
I seriously beg you: release this somewhere 😩😩😩😩😩
Them: “What does trivium sound like?”
This song: “yes”
This song sounds very like Metallica
@@mrtiesthatbind how metallica could never write this
@@Blacktoothgrin_333 that's a mystery to me. I wonder if they could cover this song and see how their interpretation is
@@Blacktoothgrin_333the vocals and the drums in the verse definitely.
I love Matts pre-destroyed voice. Nothing against his current voice
Same..... The super cleans just don't do it for me.... I miss the crusade sound
@@megadeth8592 Yes this I agree he should kept that style, nothing against the current albums but they are just not my thing.
@@Dark74111 he couldnt keep it man. It would have destroyed his voice beyond repair in the long run unfortunately :( He is doing really well with the new techniques imo, he brings the best out of himself
@@bencepatyi4032 I don’t mean screaming I’m talking about the clean vocals he had in crusade and shogun I don’t think it would have strained his voice as much.
@@Dark74111 Its the same issue, the man can't pull that off like he did in his 20's. I mean Matt still uses that kind of "clean" raspy vocals in the studio, he does his best, and live he takes cares of him, so we can have more Trivium in the future
Was not expecting to hear Torn as the second half of this. Glad that both Phalanx and Torn exist as their own songs as they are two of my favorites. Thanks for sharing this, Matt.
So glad to hear this! Heafy’s gravely Shogun voice is unbeatable.
Hope to hear the full Silence in the Snow demo someday.
A special petition for Trivium to release this crazy ass demo of The Phalanx!!
I love this. The re-write has done wonders for this song. The demo is fantastic, but I feel as it is, it would have been a little lost on Shogun. Holding it back, and developing it with the experience gained in the interim made it one of Trivium's absolute best songs.
Absolutely
Paulo absolutely was correct to change the chorus. The current song is frankly fucking excellent.
Its really cool to hear what it couldve sounded like in shogun though!
Paolo is a great songwriter. Dude knows his stuff
Disagree, the demo chorus is much better and significantly less generic imo
@@Upa1824 I agree, I'm absolutely in love with demo's chorus.
nope.
Very good decision to hide The Phalanx in 2008 because it is not in the same frequency with Shogun. But it is absolutely very good decision to put in album of 2021... And I think it is big musicianship to wait 13-14 years to find right album to put it into. Thanks Trivium for this art.
I feel like they Should just put together all the scraps from this era and make an EP or something , all of it is gold from what i have heard
If this is indeed the 2008 demo, I’ll be stoked! Fond memories graduating high school and attempting college while blasting Ascendancy and The Crusade. Would love to see this era (2003-2008) revisited more!
🔥Hey man, were you the dude blasting Ascendancy at the gym back then in 2005...? One out of a million!🔥! Hahahaha!🔥!🔥!
Then prepare to be stoked, it is the 2008 demo! Matt already played it on his Twitch stream. It’s pretty good although the second part you’ll recognize as another Shogun song that it ended up becoming part of.
@@stelioeffrena1571 thanks for the heads up!
I'm in the same boat as you were awesome times!!!
I like this Phalanx way more than final version.
Me too. Absolutely fantastic.
Crazy to see how two different songs were born from this demo
This and silence in the snow needs to be released
Wow! So awesome to hear Matt's old vocal style on a "new" song! So COOL!!!!
4:27 a reference to the song shogun? Similar to how they foreshadow the melody at start of kirisute
Would love the full Ascent of the Pheonix demo on RUclips. That has Corey written all over it 😆
And full shogun versioin silence in the snow
I would love an entire album of songs written by Corey
@@Bruh-ob9mi 100%, no offence to Paolo I love him too but I definitely prefer the "Corey" riffs and songs
Matt posted it from Corey's stream
Your "painful" voice as you call it is so fucking brutal. I love it!
Those lower screams are so good on this. Takes me back to shogun era
I really needed Matt Hetfield screaming the lyrics to my favorite song from ITCOTD! This demo is lit!
Right? This sounds badass
Who tf is Matt Hetfield
@@reubenadams9201 It's a reference to Matt's gritty style singing on The Crusade/Shogun being similar to Justice/Black Album era James Hetfield.
@@The_JustJoshing imagine being uneducated (me)
Man, this demo and the silence in the snow demo from the shogun era sound fuckin great!
Where did you hear Silence in the snow?
@@pasqualeaffatato there's a video here un RUclips, I believe someone recorded a Twitch episode of Corey, in wich he was talking about the shogun demos, and was listening those demos
@@shockmetal1 found it, thanks!
3:58 "MALICE DRIPS FROM ALL YOUR HOLES"
Matt's a goddamn poet.
"Malice drips from all your holes" is the highlight of the song
BRO this chorus is 100x better!!! I wish you still sang it like this omg it makes the song so much better!!!
Much better. Not to say that the final version is bad, it's absolute masterpiece but the Shogun version is just on another whole level of fucking masterpiece.
Matthew dude I’m listening to this at 6am at the beach in Hong Kong I love u man. It’s crazy. This shit is so good, I love young matt vocals.
I'm still waiting to hear the unreleased track from the Making of Shogun videos. That shit sounds 🔥
When i first found out this song was written way back i was gutted that it had existed for so long and we hadn't heard it. Now im glad it took so long as it matured and ripened perfectly with age. The demo was good but i dont think it would have had the same impact back then. Now was definitely the best time to bring this one out. Only question is now, what other gems is Mr Heafy hiding
Guarantee you he has a treasure trove of songs that were “rejects” from previous album cycles
Crazy to hear The Phalanx and Torn as the same song! Awesome hearing old demos like this from that era!
i need this demo as a seperate version. it's really nice. this song in general is one of the best for sure.
Fascinating to see the man himself perplexed and amazed at his masterpiece while examining. What a legendary composer.
as a long-time fan, I have to say it's super cool to see you reacting to old demos like this where even you don't know what's coming next. Also, I have to mention that's very admirable that you guys will sit on riffs and ideas for years until the time is right... you end up with 2 masterpieces instead of 1.
*insert Leo pointing meme when the Torn Between Scylla and Charybdis section kicks in*
So cool early versions of these songs! Thank you so much for sharing!
It's interesting to see how the song developed. I'm glad it was kept for ITCOTD and re-hashed. It fits the theme of that album better. But fucking god does this demo still slap 🤘
The layered vocals at the end where you hold "heart" over the refrain gave me massive chills upon my first listen to this at release - it is an absolutely massive closer.
I got to say, as a fan of Trivium when I was younger and having not been since in waves, the chorus in this version stands out, it's simple but the vocal melody is brilliant
I like both versions honestly. I’d love to have this version in iTunes though. I’m a big shogun fan though so that might be why I like this sound so much.
You’re voice is butter. And this was demo back in 08? You guys are fucking LEGENDS! 🤘
Commenting to echo the sentiments of the others. I NEED THIS DEMO RELEASED PLEASE. I love the chorus and well everything. Even the Torn Between bridge.
The weirdest thing is after the single was released and you spoke about it being a shogun leftover, I played Scylla right after because of the similar vibes (or maybe cuz scylla is my favorite off that album), not knowing that the two were one at the time.
I love hearing this stuff. Behind the scenes stuff and tour stories and things are intriguing to me. This song is my favorite on the record and to hear that it was conceptualized so long ago is cool.
We need this version!! It sounds fucking amazing!!
Really cool how you turned The Phalanx and scylla into different songs in totally different eras of Trivium,
You guys are amazing🤘🤘🤘🤘
Let’s vote!!! Release this version!!
I just listened to this side by side with the ITCOD version and noticed that the vocal melody in the chorus from the demo is used in the orchestration during the chorus of the new version. Very interesting!
That was cool hearing Torn Between's middle section in there. It definitely fits better in Torn Between though
They improved the song a ton
I wish these demos were released for some shogun special release. Would be cool to hear these songs properly, especially Phalanx and Silence in the snow without all the skipping and talking
This year will be Shogun's 15th anniversary and it would be perfect time to do it. I'd give anything for those demos to be officially released.
Living in hopes that Trivium one day release the demo versions from the archives. Day one buy as it is for all their albums so far. So glad we're getting to hear the demos after all this time rather than them never seeing the light of day.
Damn, you guys wrote lot of music before releasing Shogun, Im so glad that you are bringing it back
Came across this today. This was so awesome to hear.
I was really wanting to hear this version, thanks dude!
Matt you gotta release some of these demos on an album please
Même la demo de 2008 est vraiment superbe ! Un vrai plaisir à écouter 🤘
Sans doute 👍🏼 et Shogun est probablement le meilleur album de Trivium, en tout cas il est dans mon top 3.
Silence in the snow demo would be great too!🙂
Demos are always fun to listen to
It's always so cool hearing these demos. Honestly, I think it would be amazing if you did Ascent of the Phoenix and OG Silence in the Snow as bonus tracks or something.
We need this demo version Matt!
BRUH this sounds raw as fuck in the E TUNING. AHHHHHH
It is incredible how the sound of the song was in the times of shogun and it is interesting and I think that either you are matt, or with the band launch online not an album, but a list of what they were the demos, songs and projects or ideas that did not come to light on the albums
WE NEED SITS DEMO
love it but, I understand why the bridge is now Torn both sound great the way they ended up anyway.
One day there has to be a "Cleaning out the closet" type of album with all the songs we never got to hear!
Chorus was definitely improved
Even though I always loved the band since maybe 2005, post 2012 was the era that I really follow and got really into the stuff of Trivium. And this album is by far my favorite. Maybe this is why.
That's wild. My favorite song on the new album was a demo mixed with the first song I ever heard by Trivium on pandora radio back in 2010. Love it
I would absolutely love an upload of just the demo, as well as a rerecorded version... I love the new version of the song but that old chorus just hits different.
It’s so awesome to hear this. How did you sit on this song for almost 15 years? It’s incredible.
the phalanx just torned between scylla and charybdis
love the song Matt it helps my mind set..keep rocking on you beautyfull person your music helped me out in dark times and i Thank you Matt and your band mates
This was an interesting experience. No wonder I love The Phalanx so much, it was written between The Crusade and Shogun. This was quite the ride! Thank you for sharing!
Totally love this! One of my favorite eras of Trivium the Shogun days!
Τhis demo explains PERFECTLY why I felt in love in first sight with this song.
Holy smoke!! Such an evolution!!! Love you guys!!!
When hearing the ablum promo, I was wondering which song took a piece from this song back then and shelved this one until now. Really cool to hear this early version; you guys made the right choice, in my opinion. I think the piece taken goes well in that song, and the new version of this one shows their growth as a band. It's also great to hear how much Matt's voice has improved, from all the hard work he's done. Like back then, he was fine, but he's gained so much power and control. Fun stuff to experience!
Please upload the demo on Spotify I love it so much!
Incredible to hear this and compare it to the ITCOTD version. Both are phenomenal, and I love how you all have evolved as individuals and together as a band. Makes me wonder what other tracks there may be archived away that we haven't heard yet. 😉
Interesting to hear this after the current version. I like both, but I think the current one is more epic.
This is awesome. You have great Vocal on this
I feel it's really weird that the Phalanx was held back so long. At the same time, I'm really glad that we basically got 2 Shogun albums now.
Wow. Two of my favourite tracks combined lol. I'm sure if this was back on Shogun, I would have lost my shit to this. But you know what, fair play on holding off until now. The Phalanx as it was finally released sounds epic, and It sounds great with your new and improved vocal skills. In its current version, it has a Power Metal sort of feel which I don't think you'd have pulled off back then and that fresh Power Metal sound is what makes this song stand out. The ultimate lesson though, never completely throw away old ideas. It may just be that it's meant to be saved until the right time.
This is honestly one of my favorite Trivium songs
It's great to see it's Shogun roots
Omg this is so cool! The second half of the Phalanx (From ITCOTD) is definitely better and love the progressions and riffs but still so cool to hear this!
There are 2 songs I desperately want to hear from SHogun era - Silence in the Snow original and Ascent of the phoenix.
Please show us those :D
Ascent of the Pheonix??? I've never heard about it...
@@Yamilonqui look up the shogun demos you can hear some of it
Fetus Matt lmao. Demo was very interesting, it’s incredible that you guys wrote this so young.
I'd love to see an album with all the unreleased Demos, they sound so good
Cool! It has parts of other Shogun songs on it. I would love to see a full version of "Ascent of the Pheonix".
Damn, I love this aggresive harsh vocals
"Did I get the right lyrics" lmao
“Malice drips from all your holes” what dae fuk 💀💀
I would pay money for this
2007?? I wonder if this was the song in the background of the Shogun documentary that seemed impossible to ever find lol
I need this on mp3 or streaming platforms.
Yo Matt Heafy; TAKE MY MONEY!
The Phalanx was incredible, but I could have used ONE more chorus. Shit was off the chain. Great album. I always look forward to ya'll's releases.
Please Matt, recording this varsion. Is so fucking crazy
I like both choruses. And with torn it makes this version nuts! 🦾🦾🦾
Still keep coming back to this a year later. Any chance this will get a release because I'd happily listen to it again and again, just without you talking over it lol.
PLEASE release this with no commentary. I love this version to death.