It means so much to get so many nice comments - you guys are the best and I'm going to reply to you ALL (it may take a while😂) My reviews will ALWAYS be 100% honest. I will tell you what the brands claim and then I will test them and tell you what I find!
Hi Rick. Thanks for the great review as always. It seems to me that because of the design limitations imposed on manufacturers, that they have pretty much maxed out distance performance. Should we not be focusing more how forgiving they are compared to previous models (both distance and dispersion) as this is probably also more important for most average golfers?
No joke, you give some of the best reviews on youtube. I'm one of those that over research everything i buy and you are a must stop location for any golf equipment. I'm even able to look past the silly way you say "H" to get some great in depth and honest feedback on golf gear. You are one of the very, VERY few channels I subscribe to. Keep up the good work. If you ever find yourself in Minnesota, 18 holes on me!
Looking forward to the video on the putter/ball combo you mentioned on peters video.....would take a lot to make me change my bettinardi though.....#excited
thats why i collect the Pro V1's in my golf bag and golf with the garbage balls I find. One day I will be good enough to play with pro-v1's without losing 20 per day XD
Rick always gives an honest, quantifiable, and thorough assessment of clubs done in a way that removes problematic variables. He shows us in a simulator under controlled conditions and even goes to the course to show us where the rubber meets the road. Best club evaluator on RUclips!
Hi Rick ! I'm a french clubmaker who's been working with Tom WISHON for almost ten years. Tom actually invented the concept of sliding weights on a driver to enhance a fade or a draw in 1996. But he knew from testing (it takes about 18 months to create a new head design) that it requires at least 30 grams of weight on the sole to really change the shot shape. He went even further and created a weight of 40 grams that could REALLY promote a draw bias. BUT he had to come up with a 375cc clubhead since 40 grams was too heavy to create a volume of at least 440cc that the golfers were expecting. So his design (called 715CLC, you can google it) did not sell because of this small volume. And this is why ever since the driver heads he has developped do not have a sliding weight. It simply does not work with a 20ish grams that you can find today on some models. Best regards from Bordeaux, France !
Guys, SIM stands for SIMilar to last year's and SIMilar to Cobra. Or you can just SIMulate that its better. At this price, it should come with a copy of SIM video game. Thank you Rick for telling the truth, " these drivers are for those who want the lastest greatest ", nothing wrong if you want to buy them, just dont expect any improvement. Please don't fool yourself guys. I like the new things you did in this review Rickardito. 👍
You are by far one of the best golf equipment reviewers on RUclips. It’s never dry and always well backed research. Honestly keep up the amazing work and there should be no thumbs down on this video.
I liked seeing the difference with changing the weight location! Really interesting, hopefully we get to see similar testing with all the drivers this year!
Rick, I love your honesty! Of all the people on RUclips talking golf, you are the most unbiased with less BS👍. When you do a review, you tell us how the product affects you- your results . You don’t try to guess what club will fit different golfers. That is all fitting. Well Done!
Whenever I’m considering a product, first move is always to check if Rick has reviewed it. Love his honesty and the channel as a whole. Keep it going Rick!
Rick, you have become one of my "go to" channels. This video was very thoughtful. It was exactly the way I do test and want to see clubs tested. Keep up the great work!
"there they go again" *smirk* LOL! love it. Thanks for the review! Looking to get a driver this year so very interested in all the reviews you have/will be doing!
I had an m2 yesterday my dad had an epic, Then my dads friend wanted to trade the epic for sim so now we got a sim and m2. But my dad gave me the sim and we sold the m2 and he bought a new epic flash.
So glad I found your channel. It's awesome to get an unbiased opinion on performance of Clubs cuz when you go shop for clubs the salespeople will feed you all kinds of crap about how much better some club claims to be. So having the knowledge of your reviews helps clear the noise away and make it easier to make an informed purchase
Rick thanks for the videos, for us golf fans this is like a 2nd Christmas getting to see the new products and reviews....something to look forward to in a long cold January.
This is the way a review was supposed to be done intentional fade shots intentional draw shots High loft, lowest lolf and comfortable spot in between perfect work Rick !!!
Great video as always. Love the honesty and refusal to get sponsored (even though you easily could). Hope to get a review on the new mizuno irons and drivers as well. Cheers mate!
Excellent review. Great job Rick. Also loved the comment about not wanting to lose a brand new Pro-V on that tight fairway. You really are one of us. Keep it up man
I just purchased the SIM Max Driver and 3 Fairway based solely on their forgiveness. At almost 61 years of age, I know my days of launching the ball 285+ yards are over...just need to get it up in the air and keep it in play. Both of these clubs will help you do that!
Its so liberating to look at a quality review that is informative. Testing at the range, on the course and finally using a trackman in the studio. Keep up the good work and be as objektive as possible!
Since it seems like the models from this year and maybe models from the past couple years don’t seem to have a huge difference in performance I’d love to see a video comparing the performance of a driver from maybe 10 years ago to today. For someone like me who has a model from 2007 and is thinking about upgrading. Thanks! 👍
Thanks Rick, just picked up my new M5 for $399 and just love it. After watching your review I will surely keep it in my bag. No need to upgrade to the SIM. Thank you for your honest review of the TM drivers.
PSA: In the last 10 years Dustin Johnson has gained 4 yards of distance with his TaylorMade Driver (308 vs 312) Jason Day, another long time TMag staffer has also gained 4 yards in the last decade (298 vs 302). Note that driving data is also influenced by improving player ability, ball technology, biomechanics and conditioning. Even if you wanted to put these gains solely down to driver technology the best case scenario is a gain of 36cm per year. Guys, there are no distance improvements to be found in your wallets.
J P 100% of that comes from the TP5 ball. They're maxed out because of regulations. The new frontier is more consistent ball speed and spin across the face (aka forgiveness). There's been nothing to be gained on center strikes for almost a decade now.
Christian Conrads Of course - I shouldn't have said 100%. My comment had more to do with the known fact that the TP5 & TP5x have been more successful at getting driver spin down so they're a few yards longer than the Pro V1, although the 2019 Pro V1 mostly closed this gap. I hit TM drivers for years (3 hdcp) and gained no distance since SLDR, but SLDR was the wildest driver I've ever owned. I did an extensive fitting this year and there's no significant difference in ball speed among the top driver brands. It's all about fitting for head/shaft combo. A handful of them I hit like crap (looking at you TS3) but that's all personal. Ended up with F9 because I got amazing results with heavier weights at a shorter length but I could've done the same thing with TM or Callaway (but no reason to spend the extra money).
If you are buying a driver just to gain distance then you better be getting fitted. I have a 2003 Ping is380 driver that I hit 260-265. I have a 2013 Ping Anser that I hit 260-265. I have a TM M2 that I hit 260-265. The only difference between my 2003 Ping and my 2017 M2 is that I consistently hit it my max distance. The sweet spot is better across the face and it's more forgiving on mis hits. With today's drivers you are not buying distance, rather you are paying for consistency and forgiveness. Seems like those features are easily marketable.
@@canyonaro Im sorry.. didnt wanted to offend you 😊 You are completely right. No more else to say. My point was just that there are so many things that could be the reason of the gain of distance the last years. Biggest probably like u said.. is the Ball. Or maybe Technologie overall? I mean golf has changed a lot in the last decade.
Dane, make the effort to play a little golf and if it's the game for you it will be the most engaging game/sport you ever tried. Chidren to old men like me can play. I started playing at 72. Shame not to spending time in this world and not be savour the satifaction of a good, square, ball strike and watch your ball arcing across the sky. Plus, most of us that love the game will go out of our to help you someone giving golfing a go to really enjoy playing thrmdelve. I get nearly as much of a buzz from occasionally making par as Tiger likely does for a hole in one. So, give it a try and enjoy.
Sam Fisher not necessarily just club reviews, just this channel, I find it interesting. I’ve done a few hours on a driving range but never played a single hole let alone a round, never owned a single club.
@@TheEnglishDane Just be prepared to get addicted. Anyone who golfs knows all it takes is that one good shot to make your blood race and want to come back.
Rick I really enjoyed the format of your new videos breaking down each component of the driver, excellent job in more detail. That being said, seeing photos/videos of the new Taylormade SIM I feel it looks terrible from underneath. I will have to make my own opinion when I see one looking down at it when addressing the ball. You had said in the video that someone with a five-year-old plus driver may take advantage of the new technology in this driver, I currently use a RBZ 3W In place of a driver, have much more consistency and control with it. With all the innovations in travel technology in last few years it makes me want to try getting back into the traditional driver field again. Thanks for the great content.
Crazy how people keep saying this when it's not remotely accurate. There is almost a year between m5 and sim. They make new cars every year too, I wonder if it's a profit thing?
True, the tech is all max out on the head, the shaft is last frontier- I put a Fuji Ventus Black 6-s in the hand made Velus line ($350 ) into the M% demo paid $350. Trying snag SIM Max and move the shaft. By far, this shaft is most consistent and plenty long . This MOi is real, just means it resists twisting from off center
Love your honesty! Your Podcasts are awesome, raw & enjoy your off the cuff answers. No need to upgrade if you already hit the ball well but if you want to upgrade & impress your mates with the latest tech, go for it lol
Great review! I have been hitting the M6 driver, the straightest drives I’ve ever hit. I was thinking of hitting the SIM, but not crazy about the visual of the club. Keep up the good work Rick, you provide the best transparent reviews on the internet bar non.
To me it looks a lot like the Cobra F9 on steroids with the “inertia generator “. I am currently gaming a second generation M1 and if I were to replace it I would look more to the Cobra mainly due to the price point.
Hey Robert... That's the exact move I made in November... 2017 M1 to Cobra F9... It's worth the $ for the upgrade just be sure to get fit for your shaft and weight settings.
What "Brian Robertson" said! I, too, went from M1 to the F9 and have zero regrets. Maybe it's just me but the F9 works for me in every way, and though I hit the M1 well at times, I just didn't get on with it as consistently as I'd have liked. Given Rick's comparison of the F9 vs. Speedzone showing virtually NO performance differences, you could get your hands on a new F9 for half of a SIM. A no-brainer. Good luck!
Rick ... you are definitely the best reviewer in golf. Another "brilliant" review; honest and unbiased. It's apparent how much time and effort you put into these videos. Your fanbase reflects your efforts as well; the comments are spot on and sometimes hilarious (SIM jokes). Looking forward to your next vid ! BRAVO !!!
Appreciate the honest reviews. Another tester hit the m5 338 yards with m5 vs m3 but in another test hit m5 313 yard with m5 vs sim. I know we don’t hit it the same every day but 25 yards is unbelievable, btw he hit sim 335 yds. I guess they don’t think we can look at previous tests.
Daniel Álvaro Martínez Regal i gamed the m1 for a long time but I’m the summer i finally upgraded to the m5 with the rogue shaft. Major upgrade i have to say. I also believe that at some point after 100s if rounds and beating balls at the range there must be loss of performance.
I had a taylormade R7 425 that I bought 14 years ago brand new. Loved that club. The sound and feel was great. Unfortunately my friend asked if he could try it off the tee during a round. (He's not very good btw) and he hit a shot so bad he dented the top of it. Was mad about it but I figured, what the heck, it served me well over the years. Time to buy a new one. Bought this today and after watching this review I can't wait to use it. I am a taylormade fan through and through. My irons, wedges, woods and putter are all taylormade. Love their products and am willing to pay a bit more. Typically wait until a year or two have passed after a new release so the price goes down but I couldn't wait with this one. :-)
Taylormade 2019 - released m6/m5 Taylormade 2020- released taylormade sim Taylormade 2040- released taylormade sim series two speed flex m5 m6 with adjustable weights Data-................ Great vid rick
they wont wait that long , the next version of the sim will have an extra weight track or port somewhere to "adjust" . its been their MO since the R days .
Nathan Sharrock I hit the sh*t out of my SLDR but I couldn't keep it on the course. This looks like they were trying to get SLDR performance in a more forgiving package.
Thank you so much for your reviews Rick! You have helped me so much choosing my driver. I absolutely love my Taylomade SIM. Can’t wait for next videos!
Actually M6 had similar to cobra speed back last year. The idea that they copied cobra is silly. SIM is an extension of the M6 shaping. But the asymmetric shape is certainly different than both cobra and the M6 driver
Hey Rick! I'm considering buying a used 2017 TM M1 and looking back at your review you had a carry of 282YDS. with it exactly the same carry as the SIM. You sold me on the M1, thank you.
Thank you for this explanation. I often watch the videos of you and Chris Rayen. Unfortunately I have to listen very carefully because I am from the Netherlands. But I understand most of it
awesome. well done. might be the best club review Ive ever seen. not because of the club, but rather just the way you laid it all out. are you sure you havent been going to journalism school at nights? either way, bravo Rick Shiels
Okay my first thought on the SIM driver was that it doesn’t look as good as previous models. But I have to admit that I really like the look oft the crown. Price wise they had to go down because of Cobras big success with the F9 and the success Cobra will have on the SZ. I’ll give it a hit anyway 🤪
Great honest review - I am not a fan of changing club often, but recently driver from a Titleist 905R to a new Cobra and absolutely love the big difference in performance, sound, feel and adjusting options. Thanks
Conspiracy time - TM and Callaway are both colluding to release ugly garbage drivers because they know drivers cant get any better, Add the sliding weights back in next year and call it improved. Golf is a joke now and I run a golf shop.
@@chadjackson4786 well considering it's been proven time and time again that older clubs can be hit just as far and consistent as brand new clubs, it's literally just a visual game now. Wether you like the club or not, I'm sure lots of people will still buy it. Not like taylormade is hurting for cash
@@chadjackson4786 I haven't changed my R9 Supertri because it looks too good and the new ones are so ugly, and I'm sure they perform amazing but man are they ugly. Looks like a transformers. There are better looking drivers out there but I have a weird thing about my woods being the same brand. I really thought they where going to bring it in 2020 but guess no. Also, if they could take away the ugly white parts and black them out, it'll improve by 1000. The mini driver is a good example of how they could look by blacking it out. The mini dirver looks very fine but not for a mid handicaper obviosuly.
I currently play with the M6. I love the driver and I was very interested in your review of the SIM Max. You confirmed what I was thinking. Thanks for the review. I have followed you for a few years and dial into each of your reviews
To everyone saying it is a direct copy of the f9, did you not see the m6? I think it looks like a newer rendition of the m6 more so than an f9. Just my opinion. Still like the looks of the f9 more but let's be real, 90% percent of people dont even use the full potential of any new clubs. If you like the looks and it gets you on the course it's a winner in my book. Good luck this year and always love Rick's reviews.
Yea. These videos go to to show that I believe a lot more people will be going to this design. Monkey see monkey do. I love my cobra F9 and i was so glad Rick did the SZ and showed there was no gained. Saved me close to 200.00 on buying a F9 at 349.00 and plus 25% off of that listed price. These videos are huge for us Rick. Thank you for yet another great video
@@DustinlsxzBrewster same here i love my f9 purchased 2 weeks ago after hitting the sz alongside it. I actually got more from the f9 which shows they are no distance gains at all these days it's all about looks and forgiveness but i will be keeping my f9 for a few more years yet.
What I have learned from watching all of Rick's videos about new clubs is that, you shouldn't worry about replacing clubs until they are between six to seven years old. I'm still hitting a 2000's ping g5 and the Callaway epic is only about one yard longer and the Ping only set me back $40!
I'm new to golf and love watching your videos... to see you hit a slazenger driver under 20 quid and hit a new sim driver more or less the same distance shows it's all about practise...
Just wanted to thank you for all of your informative videos Rick. You always have great content, tips, and very positive about everything. Thanks for what you do and will continue to watch all of your videos!
I just got the sim a month ago and I’ve driven 2 par 4s that I have to carry water. 1 was 320 and the other 310. I’ve gained ball speed and distance from the m1 I was hitting. It’s the best driver I’ve ever hit. And it’s so consistent
I am a 6 handicap. I tried both drivers the other day and found the SIM Max to be better suited for me, partly because I didn't see any difference when I adjusted the movable weight on the SIM. The SIM Max I tested had a 10.5 loft with a had a 50gram regular flex shaft and the SIM had a 9.0 degree loft with a stiff shaft so I noticed a higher launch angle with the Max which is to be expected. With my swing speed nearly 95-100, I got more distance with the Max when combining the higher launch, high spin with a regular flex shaft than I could generate with the SIM that had a 9 degree loft with a stiff shaft. Thanks for your video because I didn't see any difference with the movable weight either.
Great review Rick. It just shows you that under current USGA rules drivers are already close to their maximum performance. Buying new drivers year after year is senseless even if money is no object. The best decision one can make is to get fitted with the proper shaft. That gives you the best chance to maximize your driver’s performance.
I am a single digit golfer who uses a TaylorMade Burner Driver that is about a dozen years old!! I’ve put it to test against the best every year, and keep saving money! The stats tell the tale! ... great spin rate and distance. The only slight difference is in dispersion data. Before you put down $500 plus, get properly fitted by an honest fitter and bring your old driver with you. You might save yourself some well-earned dollars! He’s absolutely right! A lot of it is marketing!
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It means so much to get so many nice comments - you guys are the best and I'm going to reply to you ALL (it may take a while😂) My reviews will ALWAYS be 100% honest. I will tell you what the brands claim and then I will test them and tell you what I find!
Hi Rick. Thanks for the great review as always. It seems to me that because of the design limitations imposed on manufacturers, that they have pretty much maxed out distance performance. Should we not be focusing more how forgiving they are compared to previous models (both distance and dispersion) as this is probably also more important for most average golfers?
No joke, you give some of the best reviews on youtube. I'm one of those that over research everything i buy and you are a must stop location for any golf equipment. I'm even able to look past the silly way you say "H" to get some great in depth and honest feedback on golf gear. You are one of the very, VERY few channels I subscribe to. Keep up the good work. If you ever find yourself in Minnesota, 18 holes on me!
Looking forward to the video on the putter/ball combo you mentioned on peters video.....would take a lot to make me change my bettinardi though.....#excited
Great vid. I’m looking for a set of new irons/ or old good ones. Any recommendations. I’m off 6 and need a good feel and good appearance Thank you !
I would love to see a "Five Year Challenge". Put the SIM against the R15. Maybe even with the same ball for the year. Great content as always!
"The last thing I want to do is to lose a brand new ProV1" - Rick Shiels, man of the people
usually just hit a cart path on the first hole after taking it out of the box.
The last thing I want to do is lose a new tp5 pix
*throws head cover*
littleking1 littleboy1 I lost a whole sleeve the other day. First time I’ve tried them 😢 I normally don’t lose that many.
thats why i collect the Pro V1's in my golf bag and golf with the garbage balls I find. One day I will be good enough to play with pro-v1's without losing 20 per day XD
Rick always gives an honest, quantifiable, and thorough assessment of clubs done in a way that removes problematic variables. He shows us in a simulator under controlled conditions and even goes to the course to show us where the rubber meets the road. Best club evaluator on RUclips!
Hi Rick ! I'm a french clubmaker who's been working with Tom WISHON for almost ten years. Tom actually invented the concept of sliding weights on a driver to enhance a fade or a draw in 1996. But he knew from testing (it takes about 18 months to create a new head design) that it requires at least 30 grams of weight on the sole to really change the shot shape. He went even further and created a weight of 40 grams that could REALLY promote a draw bias. BUT he had to come up with a 375cc clubhead since 40 grams was too heavy to create a volume of at least 440cc that the golfers were expecting. So his design (called 715CLC, you can google it) did not sell because of this small volume. And this is why ever since the driver heads he has developped do not have a sliding weight. It simply does not work with a 20ish grams that you can find today on some models. Best regards from Bordeaux, France !
Guys, SIM stands for SIMilar to last year's and SIMilar to Cobra.
Or you can just SIMulate that its better.
At this price, it should come with a copy of SIM video game.
Thank you Rick for telling the truth,
" these drivers are for those who want the lastest greatest ", nothing wrong if you want to buy them, just dont expect any improvement.
Please don't fool yourself guys.
I like the new things you did in this review Rickardito. 👍
Thanks for watching
Haha 🤣
M6 was designed before cobra. But ok
You realize every golf company does this nowadays, not just TM
Vivito IsRight hehehehehehe😂😂😂😂
You are by far one of the best golf equipment reviewers on RUclips. It’s never dry and always well backed research. Honestly keep up the amazing work and there should be no thumbs down on this video.
Thanks so much mate
I liked seeing the difference with changing the weight location! Really interesting, hopefully we get to see similar testing with all the drivers this year!
Rick, I love your honesty! Of all the people on RUclips talking golf, you are the most unbiased with less BS👍. When you do a review, you tell us how the product affects you- your results . You don’t try to guess what club will fit different golfers. That is all fitting. Well Done!
Can I just add how proud Rick was when he made the Slightly Improved Marketing joke?😂 Keep it up Rick love the Videos!!!!
Been on the Rick Shiels train for months now! What a great addition to the game of golf and golf knowledge you are!
Whenever I’m considering a product, first move is always to check if Rick has reviewed it. Love his honesty and the channel as a whole. Keep it going Rick!
Thanks so much Ryan
Same here.
Rick, you have become one of my "go to" channels. This video was very thoughtful. It was exactly the way I do test and want to see clubs tested. Keep up the great work!
"there they go again" *smirk* LOL!
love it. Thanks for the review! Looking to get a driver this year so very interested in all the reviews you have/will be doing!
Your the best honest not opinionated open minded reviewer of equipment. It's very refreshing
3 or 4 more models and I’ll be able to afford an M2. 🙄
lol just get an SLDR S, basically the same driver
I had an m2 yesterday my dad had an epic, Then my dads friend wanted to trade the epic for sim so now we got a sim and m2. But my dad gave me the sim and we sold the m2 and he bought a new epic flash.
Most relatable thing I’ve seen
M2 is great man don’t fret i just upgraded today
They certainly aren't giving drivers away, but if you can't afford a 3 generation old driver then how do you afford to golf?
Another great review Rick, as someone who purchased an M6 in 2019; you're last sentence said it all. Happy 2020. RobB
Amazing rewiew Rick. Keep doing this on all the other big brands.
Thanks so much for watching
So glad I found your channel. It's awesome to get an unbiased opinion on performance of Clubs cuz when you go shop for clubs the salespeople will feed you all kinds of crap about how much better some club claims to be. So having the knowledge of your reviews helps clear the noise away and make it easier to make an informed purchase
I love these reviews and the format it has honestly shaped my bag and the way I play golf keep it up Rick 👍🏼
Thanks Alex
Rick thanks for the videos, for us golf fans this is like a 2nd Christmas getting to see the new products and reviews....something to look forward to in a long cold January.
I love the honesty, quality review!
This is the way a review was supposed to be done intentional fade shots intentional draw shots High loft, lowest lolf and comfortable spot in between perfect work Rick !!!
Great video as always. Love the honesty and refusal to get sponsored (even though you easily could). Hope to get a review on the new mizuno irons and drivers as well. Cheers mate!
Thanks mate!
Excellent review. Great job Rick. Also loved the comment about not wanting to lose a brand new Pro-V on that tight fairway. You really are one of us. Keep it up man
I think I like “Slightly Improved Marketing.”
😂
Mike Eastridge YES! I take it back, this is what it stands for! Well done sir!
The bottom looks like a Cylon's head!
@@RickShielsPGA THINK I'LL JUST STICK WITH MY POD DRIVER ,,,,,,lol
Squandering Idiots Money
I just purchased the SIM Max Driver and 3 Fairway based solely on their forgiveness. At almost 61 years of age, I know my days of launching the ball 285+ yards are over...just need to get it up in the air and keep it in play. Both of these clubs will help you do that!
“On the range you can hit it as far and as hard as you want”. Yeah, that has never happened to me. 😃
Its so liberating to look at a quality review that is informative. Testing at the range, on the course and finally using a trackman in the studio. Keep up the good work and be as objektive as possible!
Since it seems like the models from this year and maybe models from the past couple years don’t seem to have a huge difference in performance I’d love to see a video comparing the performance of a driver from maybe 10 years ago to today. For someone like me who has a model from 2007 and is thinking about upgrading. Thanks! 👍
Thanks Rick, just picked up my new M5 for $399 and just love it. After watching your review I will surely keep it in my bag. No need to upgrade to the SIM. Thank you for your honest review of the TM drivers.
PSA: In the last 10 years Dustin Johnson has gained 4 yards of distance with his TaylorMade Driver (308 vs 312) Jason Day, another long time TMag staffer has also gained 4 yards in the last decade (298 vs 302).
Note that driving data is also influenced by improving player ability, ball technology, biomechanics and conditioning. Even if you wanted to put these gains solely down to driver technology the best case scenario is a gain of 36cm per year.
Guys, there are no distance improvements to be found in your wallets.
J P 100% of that comes from the TP5 ball. They're maxed out because of regulations. The new frontier is more consistent ball speed and spin across the face (aka forgiveness). There's been nothing to be gained on center strikes for almost a decade now.
That could have a lot of reasons.
Fitness... Ball... etc.
Christian Conrads Of course - I shouldn't have said 100%. My comment had more to do with the known fact that the TP5 & TP5x have been more successful at getting driver spin down so they're a few yards longer than the Pro V1, although the 2019 Pro V1 mostly closed this gap. I hit TM drivers for years (3 hdcp) and gained no distance since SLDR, but SLDR was the wildest driver I've ever owned.
I did an extensive fitting this year and there's no significant difference in ball speed among the top driver brands. It's all about fitting for head/shaft combo. A handful of them I hit like crap (looking at you TS3) but that's all personal. Ended up with F9 because I got amazing results with heavier weights at a shorter length but I could've done the same thing with TM or Callaway (but no reason to spend the extra money).
If you are buying a driver just to gain distance then you better be getting fitted. I have a 2003 Ping is380 driver that I hit 260-265. I have a 2013 Ping Anser that I hit 260-265. I have a TM M2 that I hit 260-265. The only difference between my 2003 Ping and my 2017 M2 is that I consistently hit it my max distance. The sweet spot is better across the face and it's more forgiving on mis hits. With today's drivers you are not buying distance, rather you are paying for consistency and forgiveness. Seems like those features are easily marketable.
@@canyonaro Im sorry.. didnt wanted to offend you 😊
You are completely right.
No more else to say.
My point was just that there are so many things that could be the reason of the gain of distance the last years. Biggest probably like u said.. is the Ball. Or maybe Technologie overall? I mean golf has changed a lot in the last decade.
Great to have an unbiased, detailed and informative review of clubs. Hope to see some more.
I’ve never played a round of golf in my life but enjoy these vids 😂🤷🏽♂️
You enjoy club review videos.. I could see some other format...but that seems odd
Dane, make the effort to play a little golf and if it's the game for you it will be the most engaging game/sport you ever tried. Chidren to old men like me can play. I started playing at 72. Shame not to spending time in this world and not be savour the satifaction of a good, square, ball strike and watch your ball arcing across the sky.
Plus, most of us that love the game will go out of our to help you someone giving golfing a go to really enjoy playing thrmdelve. I get nearly as much of a buzz from occasionally making par as Tiger likely does for a hole in one. So, give it a try and enjoy.
Sam Fisher not necessarily just club reviews, just this channel, I find it interesting.
I’ve done a few hours on a driving range but never played a single hole let alone a round, never owned a single club.
Hope you get out on the course one time mate...you will love it and hate it at the same time.
@@TheEnglishDane Just be prepared to get addicted. Anyone who golfs knows all it takes is that one good shot to make your blood race and want to come back.
Excellent, non-bias and thorough review. Thanks for investing the time to present this info!
Yo Rick it's amazing how much money you have saved me by calming me down when I have the hot's for a new driver. Thanks
Glad to see a new video from you Rick, it's been a while and i needed my fix.
Love the look of the new driver’s, once again thanks for a completely honest review 👍
Cheers David
Rick I really enjoyed the format of your new videos breaking down each component of the driver, excellent job in more detail. That being said, seeing photos/videos of the new Taylormade SIM I feel it looks terrible from underneath. I will have to make my own opinion when I see one looking down at it when addressing the ball. You had said in the video that someone with a five-year-old plus driver may take advantage of the new technology in this driver, I currently use a RBZ 3W In place of a driver, have much more consistency and control with it. With all the innovations in travel technology in last few years it makes me want to try getting back into the traditional driver field again. Thanks for the great content.
Crazy how each one of these revolutionary drivers comes out every 6 months
haha, so true!
Crazy how people keep saying this when it's not remotely accurate. There is almost a year between m5 and sim. They make new cars every year too, I wonder if it's a profit thing?
True, the tech is all max out on the head, the shaft is last frontier- I put a Fuji Ventus Black 6-s in the hand made Velus line ($350 ) into the M% demo paid $350. Trying snag SIM Max and move the shaft. By far, this shaft is most consistent and plenty long . This MOi is real, just means it resists twisting from off center
Ever heard of the Apple IPhone?
I just bought these, coming from a 12 year old cobra and Taylor made burner I picked up 20 yards on the 3 wood and driver. I'm happy with them!
"Revolutionary new sole" that looks suspiciously like the Cobra Speedback.
Yeah exactly
No speedback’s finn is straight back and sim’s is on an angle. Speedback’s is not so big.
Your videos keeps getting better and better and it's a good thing that you test the latest clubs so people don't waste there money
"Slightly Improved Marketing" That one cracked me up good
Love the brutally and straight up honest conclusion at the end. Thanks for the hard work.
That SIM driver at address is beautiful!😍 Still playing my old Taylormade R1, maybe it's time for an upgrade!👍
Love your honesty! Your Podcasts are awesome, raw & enjoy your off the cuff answers. No need to upgrade if you already hit the ball well but if you want to upgrade & impress your mates with the latest tech, go for it lol
Been waiting for this vid 🔥🔥😂
Me too
Enjoy mate!
Great review! I have been hitting the M6 driver, the straightest drives I’ve ever hit. I was thinking of hitting the SIM, but not crazy about the visual of the club. Keep up the good work Rick, you provide the best transparent reviews on the internet bar non.
To me it looks a lot like the Cobra F9 on steroids with the “inertia generator “. I am currently gaming a second generation M1 and if I were to replace it I would look more to the Cobra mainly due to the price point.
Hey Robert... That's the exact move I made in November... 2017 M1 to Cobra F9... It's worth the $ for the upgrade just be sure to get fit for your shaft and weight settings.
What "Brian Robertson" said! I, too, went from M1 to the F9 and have zero regrets. Maybe it's just me but the F9 works for me in every way, and though I hit the M1 well at times, I just didn't get on with it as consistently as I'd have liked.
Given Rick's comparison of the F9 vs. Speedzone showing virtually NO performance differences, you could get your hands on a new F9 for half of a SIM. A no-brainer. Good luck!
Rick ... you are definitely the best reviewer in golf. Another "brilliant" review; honest and unbiased. It's apparent how much time and effort you put into these videos. Your fanbase reflects your efforts as well; the comments are spot on and sometimes hilarious (SIM jokes). Looking forward to your next vid ! BRAVO !!!
Thanks so much. Glad you appreciate the content
Great review Rick. I think it just goes to show that newer doesn’t necessarily mean better. Really nice looking clubs though!
Appreciate the honest reviews. Another tester
hit the m5 338 yards with m5 vs m3 but in another test hit m5 313 yard with m5 vs sim. I know we don’t hit it the same every day but 25 yards is unbelievable, btw he hit sim 335 yds. I guess they don’t think we can look at previous tests.
Great review, I still game the M1.. can’t see the justification in upgrading anytime soon 👍
Yeah keep at that one if you like it
Daniel Álvaro Martínez Regal i gamed the m1 for a long time but I’m the summer i finally upgraded to the m5 with the rogue shaft. Major upgrade i have to say. I also believe that at some point after 100s if rounds and beating balls at the range there must be loss of performance.
One of your best test session which showed all that the driver performance.
“You can copy my homework but don’t make it obvious”
*me copying the homework *
😂
I had a taylormade R7 425 that I bought 14 years ago brand new. Loved that club. The sound and feel was great. Unfortunately my friend asked if he could try it off the tee during a round. (He's not very good btw) and he hit a shot so bad he dented the top of it. Was mad about it but I figured, what the heck, it served me well over the years. Time to buy a new one. Bought this today and after watching this review I can't wait to use it. I am a taylormade fan through and through. My irons, wedges, woods and putter are all taylormade. Love their products and am willing to pay a bit more. Typically wait until a year or two have passed after a new release so the price goes down but I couldn't wait with this one. :-)
Don’t let your friend hit it
Zachary Schwab He won’t be going anywhere near this one I can assure you that.
Taylormade 2019 - released m6/m5
Taylormade 2020- released taylormade sim
Taylormade 2040- released taylormade sim series two speed flex m5 m6 with adjustable weights
Data-................
Great vid rick
Thanks so much
Don't forget the Aero-Fin Technology dude. Oh shit - did I just let the cat out of the bag ?
they wont wait that long , the next version of the sim will have an extra weight track or port somewhere to "adjust" . its been their MO since the R days .
Thanks Rick. This review helped me upgrade my old R7 to an M6. Glad I saved the 250 and spent some extra time at the range.
It’s funny how you mention it’s a bit like the SLDR. I thought that the second I saw it that’s without performance
Nathan Sharrock I hit the sh*t out of my SLDR but I couldn't keep it on the course. This looks like they were trying to get SLDR performance in a more forgiving package.
Indeed, and has the same slide weight technology. Both ugly, SIM miles uglier.
Great video Rick, love your honest and fair reviews man. All the best this year.
It isn’t just about gaining 10
Yards. Sometimes I just want a more stable driver
Thank you so much for your reviews Rick! You have helped me so much choosing my driver. I absolutely love my Taylomade SIM. Can’t wait for next videos!
Taylormade: Revolutionary shape. Cobra: we did that last year.
Actually M6 had similar to cobra speed back last year. The idea that they copied cobra is silly. SIM is an extension of the M6 shaping. But the asymmetric shape is certainly different than both cobra and the M6 driver
@@mvansb23 yeah yeah yeah whatever
Every year is ”revolutionary”
Cobra SZ can’t stand up in numbers
Hey Rick! I'm considering buying a used 2017 TM M1 and looking back at your review you had a carry of 282YDS. with it exactly the same carry as the SIM. You sold me on the M1, thank you.
I thought for a second youtube recommended me earphones. Then realised it was golf clubs
Thanks Rick for giving us your honesty about golf products you believe have a chance of improving our game
I just got the sim I’ve been using my dads 1970’s Calloways big Bertha and boy howdy it was nice
Oh the iron which are lynx he got in the 70’s and I just assumed he got the driver around the same time
Actually just asked and the irons are from the early or mid 80’s and the driver was early 90’s
@@beniveyv7849 I'd just edit your comment to avoid further confusion. I will admit those Big Berthas are pretty awesome.
George Dobbs lol 😂
George Dobbs no need to be so snarky it was a simple harmless mistake
I bought an M5 on special this week as the SIM was being released. Looks like I made the right call. Cheers for the great review Rick.
This driver is shaped alot like the Cobra speedback with that wedge piece on the bottom.
Thank you for this explanation. I often watch the videos of you and Chris Rayen. Unfortunately I have to listen very carefully because I am from the Netherlands. But I understand most of it
Really thought he was gonna say “shyte in movement” 😂
😂
awesome. well done. might be the best club review Ive ever seen. not because of the club, but rather just the way you laid it all out. are you sure you havent been going to journalism school at nights? either way, bravo Rick Shiels
Okay my first thought on the SIM driver was that it doesn’t look as good as previous models. But I have to admit that I really like the look oft the crown. Price wise they had to go down because of Cobras big success with the F9 and the success Cobra will have on the SZ. I’ll give it a hit anyway 🤪
Let me know how you get on
Rick Shiels Golf I will 👍🏼
Great honest review - I am not a fan of changing club often, but recently driver from a Titleist 905R to a new Cobra and absolutely love the big difference in performance, sound, feel and adjusting options. Thanks
Normally I love how the tm driver looks, but couldn’t see that in my bag, looks like a club from a starter set from sports direct 😬😂
Huge Taylor made fan here, agreed, it's really ugly lol
The hybrid looks totally Rinky dink
Conspiracy time - TM and Callaway are both colluding to release ugly garbage drivers because they know drivers cant get any better, Add the sliding weights back in next year and call it improved. Golf is a joke now and I run a golf shop.
@@chadjackson4786 well considering it's been proven time and time again that older clubs can be hit just as far and consistent as brand new clubs, it's literally just a visual game now. Wether you like the club or not, I'm sure lots of people will still buy it. Not like taylormade is hurting for cash
@@chadjackson4786 I haven't changed my R9 Supertri because it looks too good and the new ones are so ugly, and I'm sure they perform amazing but man are they ugly. Looks like a transformers. There are better looking drivers out there but I have a weird thing about my woods being the same brand. I really thought they where going to bring it in 2020 but guess no. Also, if they could take away the ugly white parts and black them out, it'll improve by 1000. The mini driver is a good example of how they could look by blacking it out. The mini dirver looks very fine but not for a mid handicaper obviosuly.
I currently play with the M6. I love the driver and I was very interested in your review of the SIM Max. You confirmed what I was thinking. Thanks for the review. I have followed you for a few years and dial into each of your reviews
To everyone saying it is a direct copy of the f9, did you not see the m6? I think it looks like a newer rendition of the m6 more so than an f9. Just my opinion. Still like the looks of the f9 more but let's be real, 90% percent of people dont even use the full potential of any new clubs. If you like the looks and it gets you on the course it's a winner in my book. Good luck this year and always love Rick's reviews.
Kinda looks like the cobra F9/SZ.......... but higher priced
Not just kind of in my opinion. Not exactly revolutionary new design.
And uglier because of the proportion. Of the whatever is called at the bottom.
Yea. These videos go to to show that I believe a lot more people will be going to this design. Monkey see monkey do. I love my cobra F9 and i was so glad Rick did the SZ and showed there was no gained. Saved me close to 200.00 on buying a F9 at 349.00 and plus 25% off of that listed price. These videos are huge for us Rick. Thank you for yet another great video
@@DustinlsxzBrewster same here i love my f9 purchased 2 weeks ago after hitting the sz alongside it. I actually got more from the f9 which shows they are no distance gains at all these days it's all about looks and forgiveness but i will be keeping my f9 for a few more years yet.
Agree they look similar. Both ugly as f***
What I have learned from watching all of Rick's videos about new clubs is that, you shouldn't worry about replacing clubs until they are between six to seven years old. I'm still hitting a 2000's ping g5 and the Callaway epic is only about one yard longer and the Ping only set me back $40!
yup. finally upgraded to an M5 from a 913 D2
TaylorMade has just recycled the m6 then?
😂
M6 and F9 had babies lol
I could be wrong, but it looks like there could be some similarities to the shape/tech of the f9.
Not really.
Recycling since then m2 but changing the colour and moving carbon forward
I'm new to golf and love watching your videos... to see you hit a slazenger driver under 20 quid and hit a new sim driver more or less the same distance shows it's all about practise...
i can't wait to "demo" these lol
How did the demo go?
Thx for the honest review Rick. So hard to get honest answers
The difference wasn’t that much?? Who saw that coming🤷🏻♂️
Best reviewer on RUclips! Keep em coming! 👍
Ricks Shiels: it is pretty much the same driver.
Taylormade SIM: Do not compare me to my father!
Kristoffer Kvien .... I “am” you’re father 😉😉🤣🤣
Your not my dad.
Kristoffer Kvien .... Whoosh 😉😉🤣🤣
Welcome to 2020! Glad to have you back. 🙌
"More speed" and adjustable weights are gimmicks
Corek BleedingHollow adjustable weights are gimmicks? Tell that to the best driver in the game, changed his weights multiple times last season.
@@liamminty7152 Gary Woodland ?
Stephen Jackson clearly McIlroy.
@@liamminty7152 You might want to check the stats
Stephen Jackson I have, Strokes Gained Off-the-Tee 2019 leader was McIlroy by a mile.
Just wanted to thank you for all of your informative videos Rick. You always have great content, tips, and very positive about everything. Thanks for what you do and will continue to watch all of your videos!
I’ll definitely just hang onto my M5, I also hit the SIM and saw no difference in club head speed. I actually hit the M5 straighter aswell 🤔
I just got the sim a month ago and I’ve driven 2 par 4s that I have to carry water. 1 was 320 and the other 310. I’ve gained ball speed and distance from the m1 I was hitting. It’s the best driver I’ve ever hit. And it’s so consistent
The price of M5/M6’s just went up!
I am a 6 handicap. I tried both drivers the other day and found the SIM Max to be better suited for me, partly because I didn't see any difference when I adjusted the movable weight on the SIM. The SIM Max I tested had a 10.5 loft with a had a 50gram regular flex shaft and the SIM had a 9.0 degree loft with a stiff shaft so I noticed a higher launch angle with the Max which is to be expected. With my swing speed nearly 95-100, I got more distance with the Max when combining the higher launch, high spin with a regular flex shaft than I could generate with the SIM that had a 9 degree loft with a stiff shaft.
Thanks for your video because I didn't see any difference with the movable weight either.
The taylormade rep mentioned it was “Speed In Motion” did they change?
Great review Rick. It just shows you that under current USGA rules drivers are already close to their maximum performance. Buying new drivers year after year is senseless even if money is no object. The best decision one can make is to get fitted with the proper shaft. That gives you the best chance to maximize your driver’s performance.
What is the little “Pin Hole” in the middle of the club face?!?
It's where you money leaks out...
Rick. Nice review mate, I feel like you are respectful to the manufacturer but honest to your subscribers too, thanks and keep it up! C.
Everyone: We want cheaper costing drivers with great innovation
Taylormade: wanna buy last seasons Cobra F9 for $200 more?
You nailed it!
Just wait like 2 years. The price is just about right. Depreciation has finished.
Ha....i actually lolled out loud at that one 😂😂😂😂
I am a single digit golfer who uses a TaylorMade Burner Driver that is about a dozen years old!! I’ve put it to test against the best every year, and keep saving money! The stats tell the tale! ... great spin rate and distance. The only slight difference is in dispersion data. Before you put down $500 plus, get properly fitted by an honest fitter and bring your old driver with you. You might save yourself some well-earned dollars! He’s absolutely right! A lot of it is marketing!
Looks like a silver Cobra f9 in the back
Yeah