I have rigged my FX3 with the Kondor Blue half cage. Its built in arca swiss makes it easy when taking it from my gimble to a tripod or monopod. I also have the Kondor Blue baseplate that allows me to mount the rig quickly and plug the kit into a v-mount battery.
The Sony ECm-XM1 sounds really nice. We regularly use it as on camera mic for our Panasonic AG-CX10 if we interview some eyewitnesses on the go. The sound quality is great and it's a practical run and gun setup, when you don't have the time to get the AVX handmic out of your camera bag and connecting it to the receiver.
I’ve been absolutely loving my FX3, it’s a brilliant camera for professional video work, really is amazing. The 8Sinn full cage is great as it allows to still use the original Sony XLR top handle, which is one of the best features of the FX3 getting professional audio and proper controls. Great job on the video, greetings. - Filipe
Tilta allows this too by removing the NATO rail across the top. You can easily work around this by using iFootage Spidercrabs or other quick release gear to move stuff around. I use a combination of smallrig cold shoes and whatnot to move my Rode and Ninja up to the OEM handle. ;)
Your hair is fantastic! But still haven't seen a cage/rig solution for the fx3 which temps me. I want to build the camera out backwards, into a cube like form factor keeping everything in line with the body.
This is a big rig if you want to record audio too, for me the only thing i need is a nano rail srew’d into the top side of the FX 3 to attach the Atmos Ninja securely with a small rig connection. I am also audio recording engineer, and even through the mic preamps on the FX 3 are ok, they are nothing compared to BAE 1032, 64, or Heritage audio brit recording strip
I am concerned about the possibility of play between the lens mount and the camera because I do not have room to use a lens support system with my current rig. I primarily use the Sony 24-105 f4 lens, but might also use my Sony G-master 24mm 2.8 lens on as well. I am using the Tilta full cage system with a small rig matte-box system, as well as the Nucleus-M full kit (2 motors mounted), powered by a 160-watts hour battery, which also powers the Atomos Ninja 5-plus monitor. I currently have it set up for tripod and hand-carry mode. From the handgrips, which I attached with rosette mounts, I can control the zoom and follow-focus using my index fingers on either handle. I have 10-inch rods attached, but I am wondering if I should go with a 15-inch rod to add some more room. What do you think?
What’s a good resource to learn more about cages and thread sizes and whatnot? I get overwhelmed trying to figure out how to put together a good rig because I don’t know what will work and what won’t 😅
I ordered the tilta cage system, after watching this I'm sure I'll have the same balancing issues with the cage and Sigma lens. 8sinn. Cage looks awesome as well, I may need to switch it.
Thank you for your overview and great tips! I am wondering if you have any tips to use a Vario ND and a Mattebox whilst still keeping the setup small? Intended use on a ronin rs or motorised slider. Also wandering what 15mm rod system you recommend to mount a focus motor. Tks in advance! Keep it up with your great videos !
@@mribi Kondor Blue has a new add-on that puts ARRI mounts across the OEM handle along with a cold-shoe mount on the end. It's perfect for using a Ninja V + whatever else you'd need to mount there.
It seems the audio from input 3 is not recorded the same as other stereo inputs. I plug in two wireless Gos into it with a splitter but in post I can’t seem to split them. Any ideas? Or do I just get the new Røde Wireless Go 2. I just want to edit each channel separately.maybe I should just plug into the regular audio input in the body?
Thanks for this video!!! Doubt about Anton Bauer Battery, does it really work? In this time of use, how has your experience been in real life? Another question, you have to remove the battery cover, right? It is easy?
Would like a video with better recommendations for audio. I stay away from mics with 3.5 plugs. Looking at the Rode NTG5 but concerned with handling noise when it’s in the audio handle. What’s your take? Also it should be a relatively light mic as keeping weight and size down is important for me. I’m also looking at the ECM-VG1 microphone from Sony but unsure about its quality. Thank you
This A7S 3.5 is a decent cam but not worth the price tag. Its missing all the basic cinema features. Gonna hold onto my money for now. Unless they fix this with a series of updates.
Hey, you mentioned that not all lenses are compatible with the 8Sinn Cage. Do you have a list for that? Would the Sony GM 34 1.4 fit without problems or the Sigma 35 1.4?
Does that 8sinn cage have more than one mounting point to the camera body? Does it attach to any of the side 1/4" threads in addition to the one on the bottom?
If you plug 2 sennheiser AVX lavs into the XLR ports and then the Rode Wireless go 2 into the 3.5 jack on the camera is it possible to run 4 wireless lav mics that all record internally?
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2s Mic for Sony-Fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this? Thanks
@@LoremIpsumProd Thanks, yeah thinking to get one of those for better mic separation, also a smallrig handle extention hoping these should minimise the noise.
Thanks for this Video! I am not sure whether I understood you properly. You said that e-mount of this camera is not stable enough for cinema lenses? If yes, then it very strange as we have here cinema line camera. It should work with cinema lenses.
It’s because it’s a bayonet mount which isn’t the best for video cameras. On high end cameras you’ll see something like a locking PL mount which is more stable.
When you are using the Anton Bauer base, are you using a dummy battery internally or powering the camera via USBA-USBC and having the internal battery as a reserve?
Sorry to ask; but what monitor mount is featured at 1:15 in this video? When the monitor is at the back of the top handle… much appreciated! Thank you!
Could you please tell me what the tripod head and base plate system is? You snapped it in like an arca swiss at 3:05, but it looks much beefier than an arca swiss mount.
love tilta products but they're running on skeleton crew. critical missing component for cage kit. after several calls i finally got replacement. wrong color. started down same road and gave up. again, good product but those dudes will slow walk the hell out of ya if you encounter an issue. my experience, stay on top of them. awesome product, unreliable brand.
Obvious answer is that you can always strip back down if you want, which you wouldn't be able to do with the FX6. It gives you the flexibility of rigging up or stripping down.
Can we talk about how the A7SIII/FX3/FX6 aren't true 4k cameras? 12mil photosites in a bayer config is barely 3mil actual pixels (assuming it's RGGB, but 2.07K in resolution at best). Upres to UHD and call it 4k and you can see why people are getting mistakenly excited over the A1. It's not doing 4k better, that's just how actual 4k is supposed to look. Sony's smoke and mirrors creates some creative efficiencies, but we're being mis-sold lower spec cameras.
@@JonPais I mean there's no need to be derogatory to try and sway a point. I'm by no means saying any of the cameras I mentioned are 'better or worse'. Im more getting at Sony's lack of transparency (not just in their marketing but even their technical specifications) when it comes to what people are actually buying. While even at a 48million photosite count, the diodes are arranged in a way that doesn't actually acquire a higher optical resolution (in terms of a minute of angle change in perceptible information of a given scene.) which is why the camera is listed as 12mp 'effective' sensor. The diode config is very important information to have and the discovery of the quad layout only confirms what I was trying to figure out. Why would Sony neuter a 48million photosite sensor? Well if you have four separate diodes grouped closely together gathering the same (roughly) spatial detail for a given channel you can use that data to verify the other diode's data, aggregating to achieve a much 'cleaner' signal- which, in turn, massively improves the noise floor of the video signal the sensor is able to generate (in simple terms: makes it 'better at low-light scenes'). However, this is at the expense of not using those extra diodes to record a finer interval of spatial information, which an RGGB config would do compared to an RRRR,GGGG,BBBB config- though that more standard arrangement would not come with the same noise floor benefit, so i can see why Sony did what they did. That is why the camera is sold as a 12mp camera, not a 48mp camera (as 'pixels' are the product of many more photosites/diodes, pixels don't account for the number of actual diodes on the sensor, because array config is important). Even with the likes of the Alexa line, ARRI had to develop the newest gen of LF sensors to meet the threshold of 4k at the Aquisition level (spatial/optical resolution), not just the video file level (video file dimension). So while I was off in suspecting it had a 12million photosite sensor in a classic RGGB arrangement (which does seem very low), it technically still is once you aggregate the 4 photosite clusters as the 'groups'' are then arranged in the normal bayer pattern. Which, in terms of actual perceptual resolution gathered, is not true 4K (as in, the maximum resolution achievable in those dimensions). Which is why there are cameras that also produce the same '4k' files, yet appear to resolve more detail. 🤷
@@JonPais You’re welcome to paste my comment into a search engine to check. But my point still stands that the sensor collects a little under half the optical resolution potential of a true 4K (in pixel dimension) file
@@JonPais Not entirely sure why you're being so toxic with the personal affronts but to be fair, you replied to my post. Accusing me of being uninformed and misunderstanding, to which I took the time to explain in detail my point that this camera is not true 4K aquisition in it's current sensor configuration. I can go further and pull academic research by ASC DoPs into the conversation, but it seems you just want to have an armchair whine at someone who's just genuinely trying to figure out what's going on under the hood of this group of cameras. Good luck.
I really dont know why someone would buy a fx3 if you need a cage anyway. Also the no evf thing is bad. It seems the s3 is the better option as the fx lacks real cinema cam features like waveforms.
From my understanding, the A7S3 doesn't have waveforms either? The reason I would buy the FX3 over the A7S3 is because I would need to buy the XLR adapter, so the FX3 comes in cheaper overall, but I am sacrificing the EVF.
FX3 has much better ergonomics for video and its tally lights are invaluable in journalism for example. The fan makes it a much more reliable pro option than the s3
I have rigged my FX3 with the Kondor Blue half cage. Its built in arca swiss makes it easy when taking it from my gimble to a tripod or monopod. I also have the Kondor Blue baseplate that allows me to mount the rig quickly and plug the kit into a v-mount battery.
The Sony ECm-XM1 sounds really nice. We regularly use it as on camera mic for our Panasonic AG-CX10 if we interview some eyewitnesses on the go. The sound quality is great and it's a practical run and gun setup, when you don't have the time to get the AVX handmic out of your camera bag and connecting it to the receiver.
I’ve been absolutely loving my FX3, it’s a brilliant camera for professional video work, really is amazing.
The 8Sinn full cage is great as it allows to still use the original Sony XLR top handle, which is one of the best features of the FX3 getting professional audio and proper controls.
Great job on the video, greetings.
- Filipe
Tilta allows this too by removing the NATO rail across the top. You can easily work around this by using iFootage Spidercrabs or other quick release gear to move stuff around. I use a combination of smallrig cold shoes and whatnot to move my Rode and Ninja up to the OEM handle. ;)
I would get FX6 just for internal ND.
It's also a completely different form factor. Not really comparable.
It also costs 50% more.
Internal nd now
CVP, could you please make a comparison of the 8Sinn, Smallrig, Tilta and Kondor Blue cages once you get them?
This. Please this.
Would be great if this could be addressed
I had all, and the best is the smallrig, more configs, options, etc
@@ACDC. better than Kondor?
Hey I have this cage on my FX3 and I absolutely love it! Glad to see someone else trying out someone besides small rig and tilta! Great Video!
The SmallRig Half Cage mentioned here, and now available, is pretty much a must for the FX3.
Great video guys!
I use the Anton Bauer Battery Baseplate, Sigma 24-70, KondorBlue magic arm with Atomos Ninja V off the back of the top handle.
Fx3 is a small camera, having all this accessories is a no sense for me. I would be better to buy a Fx6 directly. thanks for your vidéo !
Your hair is fantastic! But still haven't seen a cage/rig solution for the fx3 which temps me. I want to build the camera out backwards, into a cube like form factor keeping everything in line with the body.
This is a big rig if you want to record audio too, for me the only thing i need is a nano rail srew’d into the top side of the FX 3 to attach the Atmos Ninja securely with a small rig connection. I am also audio recording engineer, and even through the mic preamps on the FX 3 are ok, they are nothing compared to BAE 1032, 64, or Heritage audio brit recording strip
So you are comparing a run&gun XLR module to a $3.5K studio mic preamp and EQ module?
You are funny.
I am concerned about the possibility of play between the lens mount and the camera because I do not have room to use a lens support system with my current rig. I primarily use the Sony 24-105 f4 lens, but might also use my Sony G-master 24mm 2.8 lens on as well. I am using the Tilta full cage system with a small rig matte-box system, as well as the Nucleus-M full kit (2 motors mounted), powered by a 160-watts hour battery, which also powers the Atomos Ninja 5-plus monitor. I currently have it set up for tripod and hand-carry mode. From the handgrips, which I attached with rosette mounts, I can control the zoom and follow-focus using my index fingers on either handle. I have 10-inch rods attached, but I am wondering if I should go with a 15-inch rod to add some more room. What do you think?
What’s a good resource to learn more about cages and thread sizes and whatnot? I get overwhelmed trying to figure out how to put together a good rig because I don’t know what will work and what won’t 😅
Mate, thanks monstrously much for this delightful, helpful video. Video excellence! Happy new subscriber here. Cheers from the States!
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I ordered the tilta cage system, after watching this I'm sure I'll have the same balancing issues with the cage and Sigma lens. 8sinn. Cage looks awesome as well, I may need to switch it.
fx3 with full range of GM lens. Only way to go.
How do you make those incredible stickers to have the equipment label and organize , please make a tutorial!!
and one year later... FX3 finally support timecode input!
V2 looks like a great update to the camera!! Jake
Great video with lots of practical info.
Super useful !
One question- at 6:01 why don't you use input 3 on the handle to plug in Rode Videomic NTG's 3.5mm instead of using an extra adapter?
3.5 plug has worse sound than the XLR. Stay away from 3.5 whenever you can.
Amazing, informative video. Helped a lot
Thank you for your overview and great tips! I am wondering if you have any tips to use a Vario ND and a Mattebox whilst still keeping the setup small? Intended use on a ronin rs or motorised slider. Also wandering what 15mm rod system you recommend to mount a focus motor. Tks in advance!
Keep it up with your great videos !
Excellent fellas, thanks.
Thank you- great video.
Just fees like there’s not a great placement option if you want to use the top handle/XLRs AND a monitor... otherwise, ace in so many ways.
Agreed. I’m just no using the supplied top handle because a good monitor mount is more important
@@mribi Kondor Blue has a new add-on that puts ARRI mounts across the OEM handle along with a cold-shoe mount on the end. It's perfect for using a Ninja V + whatever else you'd need to mount there.
Hair👍👍👍👍
Great review!
It seems the audio from input 3 is not recorded the same as other stereo inputs. I plug in two wireless Gos into it with a splitter but in post I can’t seem to split them. Any ideas? Or do I just get the new Røde Wireless Go 2. I just want to edit each channel separately.maybe I should just plug into the regular audio input in the body?
Thanks for this video!!! Doubt about Anton Bauer Battery, does it really work? In this time of use, how has your experience been in real life? Another question, you have to remove the battery cover, right? It is easy?
Nice top handle.
It’s shame that FX3 doesn’t have the built in ND, I’d like trade it with the image stabilizer
I dont get why sony wouldnt make a kind of nd adapter like canon makes for the rf mount, would change everything
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b Ikr. Sony LA-EA5 without ND is already appalling. Neither Sigma is building the ND into their MC-11.
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b 💩
Would like a video with better recommendations for audio. I stay away from mics with 3.5 plugs. Looking at the Rode NTG5 but concerned with handling noise when it’s in the audio handle. What’s your take? Also it should be a relatively light mic as keeping weight and size down is important for me. I’m also looking at the ECM-VG1 microphone from Sony but unsure about its quality. Thank you
Hey... would it please be possible to do a similar video on how to rig the fx6 as well?
This A7S 3.5 is a decent cam but not worth the price tag. Its missing all the basic cinema features. Gonna hold onto my money for now. Unless they fix this with a series of updates.
I heard that dummy batteries tend to fry the camera does that battery system have a voltage regulator ?
I would buy this camera if there was a reasonable EVF option.
Nice video:) If ecm-xm1 is available, is it the best at the price as xlr shotgunMic for fx3?
Hey, you mentioned that not all lenses are compatible with the 8Sinn Cage. Do you have a list for that?
Would the Sony GM 34 1.4 fit without problems or the Sigma 35 1.4?
Does that 8sinn cage have more than one mounting point to the camera body? Does it attach to any of the side 1/4" threads in addition to the one on the bottom?
So the Anton Bauer plate definitely works with the FX3?
If you plug 2 sennheiser AVX lavs into the XLR ports and then the Rode Wireless go 2 into the 3.5 jack on the camera is it possible to run 4 wireless lav mics that all record internally?
How to configure my fx3 camera to record videos please friend
What are those QR codes and stickers on the equipment ?
Hello.. so which cage for mounting canon lenses with metabones on a tripod? With my cartoni plate the metabones doesn't fit
Thank u 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2s Mic for Sony-Fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this? Thanks
I wonder if "Rycote InVision Softie Lyre Mount CCA" could help, since the original mic holder does not really isolate much handling if at all.
@@LoremIpsumProd Thanks, yeah thinking to get one of those for better mic separation, also a smallrig handle extention hoping these should minimise the noise.
Thanks for this Video! I am not sure whether I understood you properly. You said that e-mount of this camera is not stable enough for cinema lenses? If yes, then it very strange as we have here cinema line camera. It should work with cinema lenses.
This is true of all photography camera mounts, not only Sony E-mount.
It’s because it’s a bayonet mount which isn’t the best for video cameras. On high end cameras you’ll see something like a locking PL mount which is more stable.
When you are using the Anton Bauer base, are you using a dummy battery internally or powering the camera via USBA-USBC and having the internal battery as a reserve?
We are using the Hawk-Woods LR-16Z dummy battery! Jake
Hey quick question. When using the FX3 with the Ninja V, can you bypass internal recording and record only to the drive on the Ninja V?
yup
Sorry to ask; but what monitor mount is featured at 1:15 in this video? When the monitor is at the back of the top handle… much appreciated! Thank you!
That's the Manfrotto 492-LCD mount with a smallrig coldshoe attaching it to the top handle. Jake
@@CVPTV thanks Jake! Loving the videos! Amazing content as always.
I didn’t catch the name of the mount to hold the Sennheiser G4 receiver on the Sony top handle?
Thats using the SmallRig 1241 and the Cold shoe mount that comes with the G4! Jake
which is the best nd
Could you please tell me what the tripod head and base plate system is? You snapped it in like an arca swiss at 3:05, but it looks much beefier than an arca swiss mount.
This is a Sachtler Touch & Go style plate. Jake
@@CVPTV Thank you!
Kinda confused On the type of memory card I need. Any suggestions? Not looking for affordable just want the best option.
WhoIsMattJohnson made a great video outlining the differences in card options for the FX3/A7S3
@@jakeofalltrades4018 Awesome thank you!!!
Sony Tough cards
@@thevisualleague9610 Thank you
A7S3 and A1 users are left behind once again...
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Bro what is best ? Sony FX3 ? Sony A7SIII?
Check this video out - ruclips.net/video/KH_WZFqBjxI/видео.html
You should consider the Blackmagic 6K pro too ;)
FX3 and Z-Cam
What plate/base is that at 3:06?
8sinn cage & tripod is a Video 18 S2 with a touch and go style plate. Jake
Give us 4K DCI
love tilta products but they're running on skeleton crew. critical missing component for cage kit. after several calls i finally got replacement. wrong color. started down same road and gave up.
again, good product but those dudes will slow walk the hell out of ya if you encounter an issue. my experience, stay on top of them.
awesome product, unreliable brand.
Is that the revoring?
Yes it is with the ND built in. Jake
@@CVPTV awesome! I’m waiting for it from B&H right now! Can’t wait to get it!
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Can the batter door close using that battery pack ?
No, they can't.
If you're going to build out an FX3 for a shoulder rig and you don't own one already, buy a FX6.
Obvious answer is that you can always strip back down if you want, which you wouldn't be able to do with the FX6. It gives you the flexibility of rigging up or stripping down.
By paying more money🙂
The only way to UPGRADE the FX3 is to wait for a newer model.
Can we talk about how the A7SIII/FX3/FX6 aren't true 4k cameras?
12mil photosites in a bayer config is barely 3mil actual pixels (assuming it's RGGB, but 2.07K in resolution at best). Upres to UHD and call it 4k and you can see why people are getting mistakenly excited over the A1. It's not doing 4k better, that's just how actual 4k is supposed to look. Sony's smoke and mirrors creates some creative efficiencies, but we're being mis-sold lower spec cameras.
wot?
@@JonPais I mean there's no need to be derogatory to try and sway a point. I'm by no means saying any of the cameras I mentioned are 'better or worse'. Im more getting at Sony's lack of transparency (not just in their marketing but even their technical specifications) when it comes to what people are actually buying.
While even at a 48million photosite count, the diodes are arranged in a way that doesn't actually acquire a higher optical resolution (in terms of a minute of angle change in perceptible information of a given scene.) which is why the camera is listed as 12mp 'effective' sensor. The diode config is very important information to have and the discovery of the quad layout only confirms what I was trying to figure out. Why would Sony neuter a 48million photosite sensor? Well if you have four separate diodes grouped closely together gathering the same (roughly) spatial detail for a given channel you can use that data to verify the other diode's data, aggregating to achieve a much 'cleaner' signal- which, in turn, massively improves the noise floor of the video signal the sensor is able to generate (in simple terms: makes it 'better at low-light scenes'). However, this is at the expense of not using those extra diodes to record a finer interval of spatial information, which an RGGB config would do compared to an RRRR,GGGG,BBBB config- though that more standard arrangement would not come with the same noise floor benefit, so i can see why Sony did what they did. That is why the camera is sold as a 12mp camera, not a 48mp camera (as 'pixels' are the product of many more photosites/diodes, pixels don't account for the number of actual diodes on the sensor, because array config is important).
Even with the likes of the Alexa line, ARRI had to develop the newest gen of LF sensors to meet the threshold of 4k at the Aquisition level (spatial/optical resolution), not just the video file level (video file dimension). So while I was off in suspecting it had a 12million photosite sensor in a classic RGGB arrangement (which does seem very low), it technically still is once you aggregate the 4 photosite clusters as the 'groups'' are then arranged in the normal bayer pattern. Which, in terms of actual perceptual resolution gathered, is not true 4K (as in, the maximum resolution achievable in those dimensions). Which is why there are cameras that also produce the same '4k' files, yet appear to resolve more detail. 🤷
@@JonPais You’re welcome to paste my comment into a search engine to check. But my point still stands that the sensor collects a little under half the optical resolution potential of a true 4K (in pixel dimension) file
@@JonPais Not entirely sure why you're being so toxic with the personal affronts but to be fair, you replied to my post. Accusing me of being uninformed and misunderstanding, to which I took the time to explain in detail my point that this camera is not true 4K aquisition in it's current sensor configuration. I can go further and pull academic research by ASC DoPs into the conversation, but it seems you just want to have an armchair whine at someone who's just genuinely trying to figure out what's going on under the hood of this group of cameras. Good luck.
I really dont know why someone would buy a fx3 if you need a cage anyway. Also the no evf thing is bad. It seems the s3 is the better option as the fx lacks real cinema cam features like waveforms.
From my understanding, the A7S3 doesn't have waveforms either? The reason I would buy the FX3 over the A7S3 is because I would need to buy the XLR adapter, so the FX3 comes in cheaper overall, but I am sacrificing the EVF.
The FX3 has an active cooling system. Ergonomics is also different. It feels different in the hand and suits me better than the a7SIII.
FX3 has much better ergonomics for video and its tally lights are invaluable in journalism for example. The fan makes it a much more reliable pro option than the s3