These committees always seem to produce great moments of accountability and exposing big business - but nothing ever gets done about it so what's the point?
I was just thinking the exact same thing. Almost everyone they pull in to question will dodge questions and willfully obfuscate as he pointed out. They expose they're shady as fuck and yet nothing ever gets done. She pretty much answered their questions in the affirmative when she refused to answer their questions.
Look at P&O, for a great example. Lots of nice sound bites for the politicians that later forgot all about it to sell more of the nations assets to them .
These committees seem powerless. Someone can just avoid answering and there's no consequences for them or the brand they represent! Soft touch Britain.
@@ajrh82 They do yes there's a whole legislative step in passing a bill called the committee stage, but generally speaking it's to gather information to inform on the bill and towards any amendments necessary. Investigative committees like this have zero power, and are basically useless. We should really introduce a law that should somebody lie under a committee question or willingly absolve information then there are consequences. But currently there aren't.
It's all about going through the motions to give the appearance of doing something about it without actually doing something about it. Why are the Brits like this, I keep asking myself...
@@jasp9661how would you force people to attend ? Unfortunately the UK is a minor power, and if we wanted to ban companies like these who didn’t want to comply, it would be very damaging for the economy. That is why the EU which does have the power to change company policy (i.e usb C) is so powerful. And why its a disaster we left
I am of course opposed to the use of slave labour. If Shein is using it, they should be banned from the UK. But if the committee really cared, they would invite in American firms which openly use the unpaid labour of prisoners.
I love that they share the committee meetings, but it would be even more fantastic if they could add a link to the full hearing in the description. 90% of the time I have become interested enough to go watch the entire hearing after watching the bit shared here. I do eventually find it through the Parliaments tv, but it takes a while to get there.
What's this? "We've got all the pieces of paper that say the right things but they're all sub-contractors so we've got arms length therefore its not our fault?"
As a boomer who ruined the environment for Gen Z, what is the carbon footprint of one disposable tee-shirt of Bangladeshi cotton, shipped to inland China for dying and cutting, sent to coastal China for labelling and packaging, container shipped to a US/UK port, trucked to an Amazon warehouse for boxing with sponge peanuts, and put on another truck for driving to someone's front door?
@@EdwardLindon There are certain institutions that have the power to compel answers. They are very useful, especially as multinationals basically only exist to hide their profits and practices.
@@ecnalms851 This is a legislative body that has summoned representatives to answer questions. Turning up and not answering questions to a committee of elected representatives should be punishable.
Either Shein is negligence in its governance of its suppliers or it knows it engages in slavery and is just refusing to admit it. Both should be criminal
The answer is almost certainly "Yes", and the reality is that they're almost certainly ignored, with Shein not really caring because they're trying to save every fraction of a penny.
Look at the two men sitting beside her, you can tell by the looks on their faces that they know this is a cluster f... and she looks desperate and ridiculous but if they just sit really still so no one will ask them a question.
They brought the representatives before them. That is power. Witnesses still have the ability to dissemble or lie. I'm unsure what sort of authoritarian power you think the committee should have.
She sounded to me like she was answering for her livelihood, and I don't feel confident enough to criticise her response. I actually found myself being worried for her. Like deployed 👍
Shein, Boo Hoo, Pretty Little Thing, Ali Express are all exploitative and yet that will never bother a certain type of person. It’s similar with Aldi and Lidl don’t pay their producers a fair price and the documentary on Aldi made for depressing viewing.
Ah, I remember the day I first saw a select committee interview. I was like 'woah, government actually holding companies and elites to account!'. How wrong I was - this is all a pantomime. Interviewees will all but admit to egregious crimes - and they will face no consequences.
I think shein has hired her but with the instructions that she not is not allowed to represent them but can only parrot their regulatory processes. If she answers a question as if she does represent them they will end her career. Sad but makes my blood boil when companies essentially hold these hired lawyers hostage. It shows shein do not care about uk hearings enough to confidently send someone to represent them. Should rot in hell.
These committees show, to a cosmic level, the reason why lawyers are hated. The answers are so practised, evasive and barely on topic. With all due respect I will deflect and not directly answer any question you pose. Shein, Amazon, McDonalds all the sessions I've seen are not productive and thecompany lawyers so nothing but waste time.
These committees need not only to be able to conclude a witness is attempting to deceive them, but some powers to increase the risk those witnesses face for deception.
I understand what your trying to say, but it's more complicated than that. Funnily enough south park did a brilliant episode all about Amazon, which made this point brilliantly. Big corporations such as Amazon, Temu etc pay awful wages forcing people to only be able to afford said products by using the very same companies that pay them. It's a vicious cycle. Think about modern day electronics such as phones we all know the terrible working conditions and mining that goes on to produce them. Yet companies such as apple are worth trillions.
I spent eighteen years over there trying to understand the mindset and this just brought it all screaming back to me. I'm chewing a piece of carpet as I type! 😂
"With all due respect", she says while disrespectfully dodging every question. I guess Shein don't feel any respect is due to the committee, so why bother attending?
hate to say it but these are some of the worst questions i have ever heard. "do the items have cotton from china?" "I'm not sure it could have come from three countries. i dont wanna lie. i can give you a report." MOVE ON! this doesn't look tough it looks pedantic. surely there were others things to ask. get her non answer on the record and MOVE ON! Just bc she is on a script doesn't mean you can't out fox her. try harder
They should fine their companies for every question they cant answer or dodge. 10% of their annual operation costs per dodge should get them talking real fast
This is reminiscent of the US anti-dumping litigations in the early 00s, because 'there's no way China's electricity is 10 times cheaper than India!!'. No, I won't take this seriously.
What you have to remember about the chinese and business is this - offended by everything (when it suits them to be) and ashamed of nothing. They play a different sport from the rest us of. That's why we loose.
I can’t lie, I love how blunt and direct the questions are in this select committee in bringing down large corporate structures that clearly, and wilfully, disregard the rights of workers as well as human rights. There should be, however, legal ramifications for avoiding the questions as has been seen here, with Amazon, with McDonalds, and with Thames Water. I hope businesses shit themselves when they see that they’re being called to this committee, and that they face full consequences for dancing around these questions
again, so much talking but such little said... really disappointing that these speakers can't be held to answer the questions in short and to the best of their knowledge, under threat of purgery. the point of these select committees is to get to the truth of the matter, talking around the subject to mps (who represent *us*, the people of the uk) helps no one.
I watched a few of these meeting and the mo of the people getting grilled is to basically run the clock down while avoiding any danger of answering a question,, ironically a bit like most mps, obviously they learnt from the masters of that art 🎨 🙄.
Completely trying to manipulate reality ,,, yeah probably is cotton from China in some of their products , that does NOT mean it comes from slavery ,,,,, they have suppliers in China Turkey etc etc etc , logic implies that each country that makes clothing buys it in the country where it's made ,,,,, he's just trying to imply that ALL their products contain Chinese cotton and thus ALL comes fromslavery , which is not the case , or at very least cannot be proven ,,,,, she would have to know where each factory gets it's cotton from and where the cotton comes from etc etc to know whether it was from slave labour or not , she obviously cannot reply without knowing... he is trying to get a sound bite ""yes some is from China"" so he can say ""ha ha , look they use slavery"" , which is an assumption ......
These enquiries really make me laugh. These politicians act all tough and righteous in front of the cameras, yet they’re more than happy to accept lavish gifts, luxurious holidays and large donations from the very same people!
Yep! And then we (and I use 'we' quite loosely) continue to buy the cheaper products manufactured with slave labour because they're cheaper and it's easy to ignore. Remove slave labour and minor conveniences and attainable luxury become unattainable for the masses
This is just the UK pursuing accusations made with little evidence; even the head of the UN human rights who visited the region after over two years of being invited to see for herself didn't sign off on the report. The tourist trade makes $50B from the 300M visitors in 2024, I'm sure that many people visiting and viewing the region may have noticed something not quite right.
...? The was a secretary, not the head, of a consultation firm for the UN council on human rights, not the UN itself, who was hired, not invited, to attend a conference and give multiple paid for speeches. And she did in fact not co-sign a report that had nothing to do with her, but was in fact signed and passed by the UN human rights council. People can't visit Xinjiang chief. You can visit TIbet via a government sanctioned tour group. However, international tourism into Xinjiang is entirely not permitted. China's international tourism was 120 million in 2024, not 300 million. 300 million was domestic tourism. Anymore lies?
@nitomurray6137 UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet ended her six-day visit in China and its Xinjiang region with a statement on Saturday night and said her mission had wide and open discussions with people from different sectors in the region, including prisoners and former trainees of vocational education and training centers and all these meetings were organized by her delegation.
These hearings needs to have more power to punish and push for hire standards? How hard is it to say if you want to sell / import into the united kingdom you need to meet X standards with proof and full transparency of it and if you are found to of accepted bribes or anything then you are flagged for violoation and puniushed accordingly the bigger the company the higher the punishment. keep doing it and you get banned.
I dont understand why they think their mandate to represent their communities is actually to challenge cotton production in China. Can they not challenge why Brexit was allowed to ever happen
It happened because most English people want to keep our SOVEREIGNTY. WE wanted to keep immigrants out.But politicians are ignoring the people and blowing the destruction if England.
Xinjiang cotton is largely machine harvested without human workers. But the USA law which the UK follows makes it all deemed guilty until proven innocent. But proving anything innocent is virtually impossible. So it is a geopolitical question. This committee is doing evil more than good.
@michaelrch ok. Suppose I'm the lawyer in the chair working for shein, would I voluntarily give incriminating evidence? No. Suppose I'm a human rights lawyer working against shein, would I be privy to any supply chain details behind every collateral payments up and down the chain? No. So, the committee is stupid, it's just a political stunt for even trying, because no questions which they have designed to be Yes or No questions, can be properly answered in Yes or No without misleading the committee. That dude in the glasses is so insufferable and arrogant for questioning the lawyer's attitude. It's just a political show. Stupid.
If you are a lawyer working for shein, obviously you dont want to help the committee. But even if you are a human rights lawyer working against shein, you can't possibly know, because shein may not even know for sure, who's behind every collateral payment in every contract up and down the supply chain. It's how Europe inc the UK is still buy Russia energy, more than before the war in Ukraine. Supply chain transparency is what the USA government has been trying to achieve for decades and decades in international trade, against free trade, for Imperialist purposes. Yet the beat it could do is weaponising the dollar. The UK, having lost the British empire, is not likely to achieve that now. Trade and its outskirt industries have moved to Switzerland and EMEA countries after Brexit.
There are in all probability several hundreds of thousands of British girls being trafficked in this country for the pleasure of a certain community Perhaps we should focus on that rather than a notional or even actual issue in a foreign country we have very little influence over. Not one of those politicians is an expert or even has a basic knowledge of what they speak of
1) that isn’t how politics works. An MPs job is to address issues that affect the UK, not just one that you feel is a larger problem because you spend all day on RUclips 2) hundreds of thousands is a ridiculously over blown number. The UK is a relatively small country, so if hundreds of thousands of girls were being trafficked, it would be considered a global emergency. 3) we don’t have control over human rights in China, however us allowing SHEIN to operate in the uk is a huge problem. There is substantial proof that they are using Muslim Ughyur prisoners in concentration camps in the Xinjiang province in China to produce material for their clothes. If you don’t consider that a serious problem, you are a vile human being.
Why would it matter if the cotton is processed in China. All the laptops they are sitting there with are the product of exceptional Chinese manufacturing.
@ I am not picking on anyone. I agree that all this trade should stop. Especially egregiously waste tat like that from Shein. And I would love it if US companies had to answer questions about the unpaid labour they use in prisons. I am just saying why the committee is asking the question.
These committees always seem to produce great moments of accountability and exposing big business - but nothing ever gets done about it so what's the point?
I was just thinking the exact same thing. Almost everyone they pull in to question will dodge questions and willfully obfuscate as he pointed out. They expose they're shady as fuck and yet nothing ever gets done. She pretty much answered their questions in the affirmative when she refused to answer their questions.
Look at P&O, for a great example. Lots of nice sound bites for the politicians that later forgot all about it to sell more of the nations assets to them .
Why don’t they pull Elon Musk in for a chat? Sorry, rhetorical question.
I bet Shein could still list on LSE if it wanted and these outraged politicians would do nothing.
My thoughts exactly, same story with public enquiries that take years to decades and cost hundreds of millions.
As far as I’m concerned, if the answer isn’t a profound no, then it is a yes. I have never and will never buy Shein products.
These committees seem powerless. Someone can just avoid answering and there's no consequences for them or the brand they represent! Soft touch Britain.
Well to be fair they don't need to attend the committees, I wonder why they even bother.
Do the findings of the committees not ever contribute to legislation?
@@ajrh82 They do yes there's a whole legislative step in passing a bill called the committee stage, but generally speaking it's to gather information to inform on the bill and towards any amendments necessary. Investigative committees like this have zero power, and are basically useless.
We should really introduce a law that should somebody lie under a committee question or willingly absolve information then there are consequences. But currently there aren't.
It's all about going through the motions to give the appearance of doing something about it without actually doing something about it. Why are the Brits like this, I keep asking myself...
@@jasp9661how would you force people to attend ? Unfortunately the UK is a minor power, and if we wanted to ban companies like these who didn’t want to comply, it would be very damaging for the economy. That is why the EU which does have the power to change company policy (i.e usb C) is so powerful. And why its a disaster we left
I am of course opposed to the use of slave labour. If Shein is using it, they should be banned from the UK. But if the committee really cared, they would invite in American firms which openly use the unpaid labour of prisoners.
Lol😂😂
Thats antisemitic!!
Unless they immediately solve all problems they're no use at all, right?
@@helloworld441 How or are you just a bot ?
@@helloworld441 True dat
I love that they share the committee meetings, but it would be even more fantastic if they could add a link to the full hearing in the description. 90% of the time I have become interested enough to go watch the entire hearing after watching the bit shared here. I do eventually find it through the Parliaments tv, but it takes a while to get there.
If you find it, please share the link!
Same here. I want to watch the full thing
She should be a politician, as she's clearly mastered the art of answering a question without giving anything alluding to a clear answer.
Lets see how long she lasts in a forced labour camp.
A chinese business person will never actually say yes or no. That would just create problems later.
What's this? "We've got all the pieces of paper that say the right things but they're all sub-contractors so we've got arms length therefore its not our fault?"
L'Oréal was caught. Why not try do the same? Evidence is king.
Arms length is something politicians are familiar with Post Office scandle demonstrated that dodge of responsibility
As a boomer who ruined the environment for Gen Z, what is the carbon footprint of one disposable tee-shirt of Bangladeshi cotton, shipped to inland China for dying and cutting, sent to coastal China for labelling and packaging, container shipped to a US/UK port, trucked to an Amazon warehouse for boxing with sponge peanuts, and put on another truck for driving to someone's front door?
Any corporation would deterimine it to be Zero carbon footprint, by buying carbon footprint spots from other countries. Funny how that works.
Gen Z is doing the environmental destruction very well on their own ! You may feel guilty , but I am sure they don't !
42?
It doesn't matter where the cotton came from as long as it came from China then it's a big concern.
Purple
Can you hold them in contempt? The law needs to be changed so that people cannot avoid questions without instant penalty.
That sounds very democratic. I bet you're on another thread arguing for "free speech" too.
@@EdwardLindon There are certain institutions that have the power to compel answers. They are very useful, especially as multinationals basically only exist to hide their profits and practices.
Yikes... calm down my friend. This is a committee, not a criminal hearing.
@@ecnalms851 This is a legislative body that has summoned representatives to answer questions. Turning up and not answering questions to a committee of elected representatives should be punishable.
She's clearly not allowed to answer the questions otherwise, the Chinese government won't be happy...
There is nothing quite like corporate obfuscation. Especially if you're a Chinese corporation.
American standard practice
She's pissing me off 🤬🤬🤬
I was dying over da first question. He had to ask 8 times do you get cotton from china 😂😂
Either Shein is negligence in its governance of its suppliers or it knows it engages in slavery and is just refusing to admit it. Both should be criminal
The question should have been, do your supplier contracts exclude your suppliers from using cotton from China?
The answer is almost certainly "Yes", and the reality is that they're almost certainly ignored, with Shein not really caring because they're trying to save every fraction of a penny.
I guess pretty soon we'll also see a committee like this questioning the genocide happening presently in Gaza...?
Look at the two men sitting beside her, you can tell by the looks on their faces that they know this is a cluster f... and she looks desperate and ridiculous but if they just sit really still so no one will ask them a question.
She's worse than Amazon representatives. 😂
Liar liar liar she does not want to end up in a slave factory herself
These committees are totally toothless, no wonder the disrespect to the committee!
They brought the representatives before them. That is power. Witnesses still have the ability to dissemble or lie. I'm unsure what sort of authoritarian power you think the committee should have.
Not really.. I never heard of these guys before, and now I'll look out for them and avoid them
Never bought anything from them, don’t intend too.
She sounded to me like she was answering for her livelihood, and I don't feel confident enough to criticise her response. I actually found myself being worried for her.
Like deployed 👍
How to legally talk about not what you don't want to directly answer.
she plyed the good ol' ''i'm be happy to answer your question... at later date... in writing... but not here now'' card. classic .
Shein, Boo Hoo, Pretty Little Thing, Ali Express are all exploitative and yet that will never bother a certain type of person. It’s similar with Aldi and Lidl don’t pay their producers a fair price and the documentary on Aldi made for depressing viewing.
Ah, I remember the day I first saw a select committee interview. I was like 'woah, government actually holding companies and elites to account!'. How wrong I was - this is all a pantomime. Interviewees will all but admit to egregious crimes - and they will face no consequences.
I think shein has hired her but with the instructions that she not is not allowed to represent them but can only parrot their regulatory processes. If she answers a question as if she does represent them they will end her career. Sad but makes my blood boil when companies essentially hold these hired lawyers hostage. It shows shein do not care about uk hearings enough to confidently send someone to represent them. Should rot in hell.
No they don't have strong measures in place.
These committees show, to a cosmic level, the reason why lawyers are hated. The answers are so practised, evasive and barely on topic. With all due respect I will deflect and not directly answer any question you pose. Shein, Amazon, McDonalds all the sessions I've seen are not productive and thecompany lawyers so nothing but waste time.
These committees need not only to be able to conclude a witness is attempting to deceive them, but some powers to increase the risk those witnesses face for deception.
It's not only them to blame... But mainly the customers
I understand what your trying to say, but it's more complicated than that. Funnily enough south park did a brilliant episode all about Amazon, which made this point brilliantly.
Big corporations such as Amazon, Temu etc pay awful wages forcing people to only be able to afford said products by using the very same companies that pay them. It's a vicious cycle. Think about modern day electronics such as phones we all know the terrible working conditions and mining that goes on to produce them. Yet companies such as apple are worth trillions.
This whole thing seems pointless..... Great questions, but zero follow up, zero actions etc etc.
Oh, the SHEIN lawyer is very clever. No one can see through her obfuscating nonsense.
Ban Shein in the UK!
You’re asking a ccp representative…. Why do you think will be truthful let alone answer British government questions.
I'm a lawyer, i physically can't give yes or no. Its literally impossible for me to do so.
I spent eighteen years over there trying to understand the mindset and this just brought it all screaming back to me. I'm chewing a piece of carpet as I type! 😂
2:09 .....Proceeds to not do the best she can to answer questions asked to her
not being able to say no to the question implies the answer is yes
Slavery is still rampant in Africa
They should be told to say yes or no not just ask an then let her ramble on so was it a yes or no
I’m sure there will be real, tangible consequences to these lies and obfuscations. Lol
It's cheap for a reason.
Their families may be unalived if they say something wrong
Killed. You can say the word killed. Have integrity. Don't be a coward with language.
"With all due respect", she says while disrespectfully dodging every question. I guess Shein don't feel any respect is due to the committee, so why bother attending?
hate to say it but these are some of the worst questions i have ever heard.
"do the items have cotton from china?"
"I'm not sure it could have come from three countries. i dont wanna lie. i can give you a report."
MOVE ON! this doesn't look tough it looks pedantic. surely there were others things to ask.
get her non answer on the record and MOVE ON! Just bc she is on a script doesn't mean you can't out fox her. try harder
They should fine their companies for every question they cant answer or dodge. 10% of their annual operation costs per dodge should get them talking real fast
If you think you're clever buying cheap clothes from companies like this then these are the consequences.
This is reminiscent of the US anti-dumping litigations in the early 00s, because 'there's no way China's electricity is 10 times cheaper than India!!'.
No, I won't take this seriously.
What you have to remember about the chinese and business is this - offended by everything (when it suits them to be) and ashamed of nothing. They play a different sport from the rest us of. That's why we loose.
I can’t lie, I love how blunt and direct the questions are in this select committee in bringing down large corporate structures that clearly, and wilfully, disregard the rights of workers as well as human rights. There should be, however, legal ramifications for avoiding the questions as has been seen here, with Amazon, with McDonalds, and with Thames Water. I hope businesses shit themselves when they see that they’re being called to this committee, and that they face full consequences for dancing around these questions
The simple answer to the cotton question is that every garment is 100% polyester, i.e. No - there is no cotton in any product 😂😂
Marks their own homework 😁😂😂
Not gonna answer the questions? A few weeks in the cells until you do!
Why would any business volunteer to go to these select committee, seems a waste of time.
I won't buy from them
i think these videos needs a lie/unansered question counter.
1:31 this is a yes or no question
How can you tell she is a lawyer ? Trump would like to have someone of this calibre on his payroll !
again, so much talking but such little said... really disappointing that these speakers can't be held to answer the questions in short and to the best of their knowledge, under threat of purgery. the point of these select committees is to get to the truth of the matter, talking around the subject to mps (who represent *us*, the people of the uk) helps no one.
I watched a few of these meeting and the mo of the people getting grilled is to basically run the clock down while avoiding any danger of answering a question,, ironically a bit like most mps, obviously they learnt from the masters of that art 🎨 🙄.
Unbelievable.
8:18 demand she agree to then willfully false advertising online saying their products are made in china cotton whatever
why cant she say?
Can someone explain why there hung up on the cotton ???
Uyghur slave labor.
produced by slave labour
Because of allegations of modern slavery in the cotton production process. Selling the produce of slave labour is illegal.
SO NO, then !! I know send someone who cannot answer questions.. That will do it !!
Completely trying to manipulate reality ,,, yeah probably is cotton from China in some of their products , that does NOT mean it comes from slavery ,,,,, they have suppliers in China Turkey etc etc etc , logic implies that each country that makes clothing buys it in the country where it's made ,,,,, he's just trying to imply that ALL their products contain Chinese cotton and thus ALL comes fromslavery , which is not the case , or at very least cannot be proven ,,,,, she would have to know where each factory gets it's cotton from and where the cotton comes from etc etc to know whether it was from slave labour or not , she obviously cannot reply without knowing... he is trying to get a sound bite ""yes some is from China"" so he can say ""ha ha , look they use slavery"" , which is an assumption ......
These enquiries really make me laugh. These politicians act all tough and righteous in front of the cameras, yet they’re more than happy to accept lavish gifts, luxurious holidays and large donations from the very same people!
Yep! And then we (and I use 'we' quite loosely) continue to buy the cheaper products manufactured with slave labour because they're cheaper and it's easy to ignore. Remove slave labour and minor conveniences and attainable luxury become unattainable for the masses
Well aren't you in the know 😂
These politicians are a joke ......
This is just the UK pursuing accusations made with little evidence; even the head of the UN human rights who visited the region after over two years of being invited to see for herself didn't sign off on the report.
The tourist trade makes $50B from the 300M visitors in 2024, I'm sure that many people visiting and viewing the region may have noticed something not quite right.
...? The was a secretary, not the head, of a consultation firm for the UN council on human rights, not the UN itself, who was hired, not invited, to attend a conference and give multiple paid for speeches. And she did in fact not co-sign a report that had nothing to do with her, but was in fact signed and passed by the UN human rights council.
People can't visit Xinjiang chief. You can visit TIbet via a government sanctioned tour group. However, international tourism into Xinjiang is entirely not permitted.
China's international tourism was 120 million in 2024, not 300 million. 300 million was domestic tourism.
Anymore lies?
@nitomurray6137
UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet ended her six-day visit in China and its Xinjiang region with a statement on Saturday night and said her mission had wide and open discussions with people from different sectors in the region, including prisoners and former trainees of vocational education and training centers and all these meetings were organized by her delegation.
@@nitomurray6137 A permit isn’t required to enter Xinjiang.
300 million visitors, who mentioned anything about "international" visitors?
Ban SHEIN!!!!!
The irony of a politician criticising someone for not answering a direct question 😂
These hearings needs to have more power to punish and push for hire standards? How hard is it to say if you want to sell / import into the united kingdom you need to meet X standards with proof and full transparency of it and if you are found to of accepted bribes or anything then you are flagged for violoation and puniushed accordingly the bigger the company the higher the punishment. keep doing it and you get banned.
I dont understand why they think their mandate to represent their communities is actually to challenge cotton production in China. Can they not challenge why Brexit was allowed to ever happen
No they stick to the topic
It happened because most English people want to keep our SOVEREIGNTY. WE wanted to keep immigrants out.But politicians are ignoring the people and blowing the destruction if England.
Newspeak word salad anyone?
Xinjiang cotton is largely machine harvested without human workers. But the USA law which the UK follows makes it all deemed guilty until proven innocent. But proving anything innocent is virtually impossible. So it is a geopolitical question. This committee is doing evil more than good.
They haven't been judged in breach of the law. Otherwise they would not be able to trade in the U.K.
@michaelrch then what's this meeting about?
@@seasonmists they are gathering evidence. That's what committees do.
@michaelrch ok. Suppose I'm the lawyer in the chair working for shein, would I voluntarily give incriminating evidence? No. Suppose I'm a human rights lawyer working against shein, would I be privy to any supply chain details behind every collateral payments up and down the chain? No. So, the committee is stupid, it's just a political stunt for even trying, because no questions which they have designed to be Yes or No questions, can be properly answered in Yes or No without misleading the committee. That dude in the glasses is so insufferable and arrogant for questioning the lawyer's attitude. It's just a political show. Stupid.
If you are a lawyer working for shein, obviously you dont want to help the committee. But even if you are a human rights lawyer working against shein, you can't possibly know, because shein may not even know for sure, who's behind every collateral payment in every contract up and down the supply chain. It's how Europe inc the UK is still buy Russia energy, more than before the war in Ukraine.
Supply chain transparency is what the USA government has been trying to achieve for decades and decades in international trade, against free trade, for Imperialist purposes. Yet the beat it could do is weaponising the dollar. The UK, having lost the British empire, is not likely to achieve that now. Trade and its outskirt industries have moved to Switzerland and EMEA countries after Brexit.
Waste of time
There are in all probability several hundreds of thousands of British girls being trafficked in this country for the pleasure of a certain community
Perhaps we should focus on that rather than a notional or even actual issue in a foreign country we have very little influence over.
Not one of those politicians is an expert or even has a basic knowledge of what they speak of
1) that isn’t how politics works. An MPs job is to address issues that affect the UK, not just one that you feel is a larger problem because you spend all day on RUclips
2) hundreds of thousands is a ridiculously over blown number. The UK is a relatively small country, so if hundreds of thousands of girls were being trafficked, it would be considered a global emergency.
3) we don’t have control over human rights in China, however us allowing SHEIN to operate in the uk is a huge problem. There is substantial proof that they are using Muslim Ughyur prisoners in concentration camps in the Xinjiang province in China to produce material for their clothes. If you don’t consider that a serious problem, you are a vile human being.
More irritating to watch than PMQs, who'd have thought it possible.
“We are complaint with relevant UK laws” looooool obfuscation
Why would it matter if the cotton is processed in China. All the laptops they are sitting there with are the product of exceptional Chinese manufacturing.
Because cotton produced in some areas involves the suspected use of slave Uighur labour.
@@michaelrch Seems like a problem for China not us. We buy product from Brazil, Philippines, america, Egypt. All have terrible human rights records.
@ I am not picking on anyone. I agree that all this trade should stop. Especially egregiously waste tat like that from Shein. And I would love it if US companies had to answer questions about the unpaid labour they use in prisons.
I am just saying why the committee is asking the question.
y9u forgot israyl
What does it matter where the cotton comes from?
Because it's suspect that some cotton production involves slave Uighur labour.
When slave labour’s involved, kinda