They did lots Austerity defunded the justice system Social services They then footed councils with both additional child support requirements and gave them an additional bill for housing support
A further inquiry is just kicking the can further down the road, inquiries takes years. Tories didn't do anything in government, and now it looks like they want to delay any implementation of guidelines from the last inquiry.
@@leeshepherd6512 1 labour minister whilst in opposition tried to tackle this issue a decade ago and was ridiculed and attacked. By Starmer & other Labour peers Labour have spoke a lot but is that doing something? I'm not supporting Badenoch either she has done nothing along with other Tory's. Look into the history yourself maybe not the forced narrative being reported.
@@markoconnor9267Remind us of the actual action the last Tory government took when the enquiry findings were published more than two years ago? Also, what did Johnson say about police enquires into historic child abuse? 😮
@@leeshepherd6512 and as for keep up lol ? Don't be a hypocrite when you've clearly no knowledge of what you're talking about. You just rattle the media narrative. And trying to tag the Labour Party in your posts @deluded
Both sides have had plenty of time, it's been known since at least 1997...don't think the UK government has been fit for purpose for a long time honestly.
Starmer was in his element. I'm very critical of him and I'm not a happy Labour voter - but he absolutley smashed this. Badenoch - who I thought did well - ended up looking the novice she is. And we all love that slight on Farage.
She deserves it tbh I rolled my eyes reading the title and It just Reeks of desperation how its all of a sudden a huge topic for her when it wasn’t a week ago or the 14 years they was in power😂 i’m guessing most people can see through the nonsense
The Tories stance on grooming gangs is utterly hilarious because spent the past 14 years cutting the funding for virtually every branch of the legal system in the UK, they also failed to implement any of the recommendations from the 2022 Enquiry (according to Robert Jenrick the Tories were in the "process" of implementing the recommendations, but the General Election ruined everything).
They weren't in the process of implementing anything. One of the very abuse victims called kemi out for bandwagon jumping last week. Said she'd met with the tories every year for the last 12 years and they implemented nothing.
I'm from Rochdale (and can pronounce it correctly, it's not Roche-dale) and I'd just like you to stop mentioning the towns in question, the towns themselves aren't important it's the crimes and the victims and how to protect those victims and stop further abuses across the entire nation. Just get on and vote to put the recommended changes from the previous enquiry in place to protect children and young women against this happening now. Then after that is done you can start a new enquiry but only AFTER the previous recommendations have been put in. That way at least whilst you have your enquiry you are wanting there is more protection to fight grooming gangs in place than there was yesterday. Enquiries are just years wasted spending millions getting nothing done when we all know what needs to be done from the last enquiry and can do it now and stop there from being more victims of abuse.
The last person's opinion I'm interested in is Doris. The Clown who spaffed an 80 seat majority up the wall and betrayed the people who lent their votes!
Has Badenoch no shame just a brass neck. The Tories are of course jumping on the bandwagon. They had an an enquiry and didn't implement the 20 recommendations that fact tell you all you need to know about the current Tory party.
Isn't it super awesome when a party after 14 years of negligence towards the victims can just turn the whole story around and blame it on your political opponents. A political opponent who has actually done much more to help the victims and put the guilty in jail than you and your party ever did? Great, really, how convenient. The old Conservative song: Do nothing, neglect everything, protect the guilty and delay the trials, and when you're not in power, use whatever you screwed up yourself to attack your opponent with. The shocking thing is that it will work for far too many Brits. So go on, vote the Tories back into power, better to know which devil you're sleeping with isn't it?
It's worse than that. Which PM gave Savile a knighthood? Treated him to lavish meals in Downing Street and Chequers? Told the BBC to turn a blind eye, just before Charter renewal? Protected him, despite Police and security services warning her about him?
@neilgodwin6531 also boris Johnson who put an abuser a known abuser in a position in power in the tory party knowing he was an abuser.. it ended his reign last I checked along with covid partying.
In one case a 12 year old girl victim was questioned intensively by the defence lawyers for over 10 days! Her entire life was crawled over and she was taken to pieces. Such tactics caused cases to collapse. Starmer put a stop to such abuse of young victims and led to successful prosecutions happening
The Tories have done a lot of shameful things over the last 14 years but finger pointing about anything they had the power to deal with but sat on their hands is sickening levels
@@kevinsheahan5449Boris Johnson happened, that’s what. They were always the nasty party but the cretins he put forward… 🤯🙄 Gullis, Anderson, Mark Jenkinson and Brenda the cat just for starters. Theresa May had to sack Priti Patel for her dodgy Israel affairs and then she’s back in a top job soon after. Braverman taking nasty to a whole new level. Don’t even get me started on her LBC show from last week. They saw Reform gaining momentum and upped their ante on the divisive and unnecessary culture wars. The amount of people who still side with either of these parties is an embarrassment to the UK… and humanity.
You could also say they enabled it because they cut the funding for basically every single branch of the legal system during their 14 years in government.
'Complicit' - says the party who did nothing while this was happening or when it was uncovered. The Conservatives are the best thing ever to happen to Reform.
They are also the party that: - Fired 20K Police Officers - Closed 500 Police Stations - Fired tens of thousands of police staff - Closed half the courts in England - Didn't build a new prison in 14 years
Exactly, if the Jay Review recommendations had been put into law by the Conservatives I can't imagine Labour or the Lib-Dems voting against it. Get the bill passed then go from there. Hopefully people remember what the Conservatives are doing here and keep them out of power forever.
I'd make the Tories pay back all their salaries all 14 years of them , 14 years every tory MP for what did we get ???? Leave them with a massive debt every one of them , they broke the public contract to serve the people not delay and bluster putting girls in danger
Totally hopeless and is unable to plant the blow that causes the PM to squirm. She won't be tory leader for long. Starmer dealt with her easily and genuinely wants the tories to stop playing politics and support the bill. If they follow the whip then they will just be exposed for being the nasty party yet again.
The tories better not effing block this. They couldn't be arsed to get the victims justice within the decade they were in power for but now they also refuse to let labour get justice for the victims. Its utter bull. If you're inept and unable to deliver, fine, BUT don't stand in the way of someone else trying to do the right thing.
I wasn’t sure about Starmer as I’m left leaning and didn’t like the way he pivoted right after what happened to Jeremy but Iv gotta admit, he seems to want/do his best for the country and has got a lot better at PMQs. The thought of the Tories getting back in or even worse reform is too dark to mention
I would vote for tories because im not a fan of starmer but with kemi at the head that patty looks shambolic and i’d never cote flr farage so I guess the only option is starmer
@@thepepper191 Well, we can agree to disagree on this. The point is that the issue of CSE of this type has been going on since at least the 1980's and that each successive government has done nothing about it. I'm not shilling for the Tories but my opinion is that the only reason Labour have suddenly addressed this issue is because they were being criticised by Elon Musk. To my knowledge it wasn't one of their policy proposals prior to the election. If at the start of his premiership Starmer had announced "we're going to do what the tories couldn't on the issue of R gangs" then I'd have more respect for his government. Honestly, I think this whole discussion is a distraction and a way not to address an issue that's needed addressing for decades. To me this is not about labour and conservative it's about vulnerable children and a culture of political inaction on both sides. Peace
She's contradicted herself saying shes brought up the issue in parliament before then says she wouldn't have been speakong about the issue as she wasn't a minister. Muppet.
Children’s , women’s and equality minister …. She knows Starmer had her …… she didn’t need to be a Home Office minister to speak out on the abuse of girls …….
Truly chilling and utterly disgusting how quickly and eagerly bad Enoch is to allow further child abuse and systematic gang rape, purely in the hope of gaining some political points. On top of her many years of ignoring the issue whilst actually in her remit. Vile
Tories will jump on any bandwagon that’s going even if it means voting against measures to protect children. Shame on all of them for not rebuking President Musk’s ranting. Badenoch slaughtered this afternoon.
no it was first uncovered 2004 and then the unelected pm in 2008 told the police in an e`mail to ignore, both parties are complicit more labou,r because most of the places this was and still is happening are labour controlled councils so please get it right
A seven year long national report which ran (at a cost of 186 million) and concluded on the tories watch, from which they chose to nothing is not good enough for them, but then they seem to have suffered mass amnesia to the last 14 years. The hypocrites.
Musk is shouting about it so the Babadook has to kiss his ring and make it the big deal ffs 🤬🤬🤬 Imagine if the Tories were still in power? Not a word would be said about the "victims" of this scandal. They'd just be worshipping President Musk as they are in opposition. Utter scum.
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Badenoch reminds me of when Tommy Robinson nearly collapsed a trial through self aggrandisement in that she's using this to gain political capitol whilst blocking real change.
It won't look good when the media report the bill to protect children and say *** (insert number) Tories voted against. Even worse, if they say ** Tories defied Kemi BadEnoch and voted in favour of the bill.
i wonder if she and her party remember the other scandals...like the horizon situation with the post office, the infected blood, the scandalous behaviour of boris johnson and the rest of them...hmm
And the tax payer pays . Ridiculous all these inquiries. Get the home office to deal with it in conjunction with the police. What did the Tories do? Playing games between mogg and Johnson.
@@PSI-qf8bq'spaffing money up the wall' was the phrase. I suppose only public school oiks will understand what 'spaffing' means, but I would guess something crude
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What on earth is this BS about not being seen as being racist??? This seems like a ploy to stoke anger and animosity towards said race. How on earth is holding criminals to account racist in anyway? Why even bring up their race? This all seems like an act to sow division and scapegoat.
No, there was in fact some reference to fear of being labelled racist among the authorities who "turned a blind eye". I have no idea whether it was said in good faith (my instinct would be that it was not), but it seems a rather shabby excuse. Rape is a physical crime that leaves physical traces. It can be determined objectively, without reference to race or ethnicity. In my opinion, far bigger reasons were misogyny and classism: the police didn't care much about people they saw as "low-class girls".
Even though Labour is not doing so well by any account, we are cheered up thinking how infinitely worse if the Tories had been still in power and we have at least some respite.
Doing well....they literally just got into power and have to clean up all the crap that ppl let the Tories get away with for Years.... What u think they would do ....fox everything in months
Abuse is sadly part of human life. We need fully funded services but even then abuse will happen because the vast majority of abuse is carried out by people well known to the victim families essentially
@@MrMakosiIt's Labour, not labour. Kemi, not kemi. Clearly, your English teacher wasn't the best either. "Kemi knows who the enemies are". We know the enemies of this country. Musk, Trump and all on the right who want to hand us over to Putin
It a shameful act form Tories to play the politics on this matter. Tories were in power for 14 years. They failed the country and now they're playing the dirty politics. In the last inquiry 22 recommendation came up but Tories did not took any action. National enquiry is a waste of time and taxpayers money. Why not take action on those 22 recommendations instead????
The Tories treated this with lazy indifference. As they did the electorate .They were sacked into political oblivion because of their ineptitude . Yet once again , it's Starmers fault .
I don't think so. They may be shouting the loudest - but those who do don't last that long in politics. They're fighting like cats in a sack 5 years before an election!! If Starmer actually passes some bills and takes action he'll appear to be actually doing something whereas the Right are just infighting.
Wrong there. Musk cr*pped on Fartage from a great height. Starlink orbit, in fact. Musk, in turn, has been slapped down by the President of Brazil, President of Panama, the German Chancellor and Sir Keir Starmer. His businesses are failing, droves of cancellations of Cybertruck orders, people still leaving TwitteX, and no one is going to trust Grok except Diaper Donny, and he's slapped Felon down, too.
National Inquiries are official procrastination - nothing more, nothing less. One has only to see what has happened in the Contaminated Blood business and the Post Office Scandal to name but two of many to see that they are ways of putting off doing anything apart from lining the pockets of those conducting those inquiries.
Her delivery still hasnt improved. You see newbies faltering at first but then turn into attack dogs ( even Corbyn did ) Shes still too quiet with no emphasis or altering tone.
I don't like Kemi, but I wonder if her quiet tone is due to the "angry black woman" trope/ stereotype that so many black women have to deal with. Black women are judged more harshly than any other ethnicity when they raise their voice, I don't know why but I've seen it happen with my own eyes. A lot of my black friends talk about how it makes them very aware of their volume and tone when speaking, they say they're always having to monitor their own words.
14:25 "one of the worst scandals in recent history" Have the Tories already forgotten about the VIP Lane scandal, you know the scandal where they did a bit of profiteering during the 2020 pandemic.
@@philipdouglas5911 Don't defend the COE and it's noncery, it's actually quite grim you'd do that. The COE and noncery go hand in hand like the Royal family and noncery.
Recently two retired police officers were arrested in relation to the grooming, from the 1990’s. Money victim stated in the Jay inquiry when she was 12, went to the police who told her to ‘come back when you are not drunk’.
These two make my blood boil, tit for tat across the floor but nothing gets done, Labour and Conservative have been in charge of this country for over 100 years, it's time for change people, we MUST get Reform into power at the next general election
People were scared of being labelled 'racists' so they allowed child predators to continue their abuse??? Either these people don't exist or they didn't have enough evidence to support their beliefs (as the arrests, charges, and convictions of the predators would absolve the accuser of most claims)
Nobody was scared of being labelled a racist. Some racists have been crying wolf and making accusations about 'pakistanis' for decades, so when they accuse large groups of them of something so serious, it's their fault if nobody believes them.
No, that point is not untrue. They did *say* that (though I would question whether they believed it). The main reason they didn't take action is that they looked down on the girls as "scum".
The reality of Kemi is that her party talks and posts a lot on X but doesn't take any actual action on what they say. They are no more than simply people pleasers. However, there should be a National Enquiry for more evidence to be provided under Oath.
I hate to say it , but another National Enquiry would push everything back . Deal with what we know , other evidence is bound to come to the fore as it is implimented ….. Especially with mandatory reporting…….
@@jackmorley7444 interesting fact …… BadEnoch hasn’t met any victims ……. How would she know what they saying about any enquiry then ? She claimed today she knew some wanted it , some wanted Jay enacted ………
I would prefer for the COVID enquiry to be revisited and to proceed in introducing legislation based on the finding of the report the conservatives sat on and did noting with.
She said something like “well I wasn’t home office minister” - you were a minister though?? Did you not have Priti Patel’s number? You couldn’t ring her up and say “let’s implement some of the things from these recommendations”?? It’s not good enough to that as minister for women and children that this thing was just, not your problem, not your fault. Honestly Starmer didn’t come off well here. He could have hit her *way* harder for her inaction on these points.
As a member of the Cabinet she had 'collective responsibility'. My previous MP was Sajid Javid and he replied to my letters on various issues, citing this cop-out as a reason for doing nothing. She could have resigned if Patel didn't do anything after she voiced any concerns, but her 'career' was more important to her. Collective responsibility means she is equally guilty of inaction to protect children
@ collective irresponsibility more like. Everyone agreeing that everything was someone else’s job and as a result the job never gets done - like I think we’ve worked in offices where this was the attitude and that always ended up being a nightmare, and this is how they run a country like. I’m not even confident she *did* voice her concerns. She said she “did a couple speeches” but as a cabinet minister you don’t need to do speeches you just need to do phone calls.
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Not a single police officer or social worker has been sacked for covering up the grooming gangs scandal and not reporting crimes they were made aware of...that's why a national inquiry is required and those people need to be exposed
3:02 blaming an incoming government for previous failure is beyond the pale and proves contempt for victims on all sides… #exploitation is what it is no doubt however this is not how you resolve matter - it just proves how weak Starmer et al were in opposition so mud all round… can we do some dealing with the matter?
Badanoch should just acknowledge the tories failings and her regrets but put it to the PM that a full public enquiry is required now. So much information was suppressed due to the offenders being of a certain ethnic minority. The truth needs to be sought and brought to the surface. And Starmer would get massive credit if he actually tells his MPs to vote for one!!
But at the same time she should not be trying to sabotage the bill to protect children. That's not a good look. Ask for the enquiry AFTER the bill gets Royal Assent. But that wouldn't play well with the Daily Heil and Reform
We continue to find it amusing how this channel and the channel of the Conservative party continue to have the exact same title for their PMQ’s video - just swapping around Starmer and Badenoch!
@ I don’t know 🤷♂️ I don’t speak for them - do you? Are you representing these victims? What are the downsides to an investigation?? Why would one be against such a thing?? Because they have colleagues implicated one would presume - so you are suggesting not investigate is that right? Look I watch the news a lot and most of this is unknown and it’s been left to fascists to make it a story - this is how utterly non-existent a “left” we have there is no opposition…. No one is advocating for these victims both sides are scoring points - to be honest looks like that’s what you’ve writing to me for? What you asking me this for? I’m not a victim of this crime what I want is not high priority…but I imagine service users would like some reassurance given the state of services - this is huge scandal next to no action….you are fine with it is that right?? Defend the reds no matter who it hurts….
@munchuriancandidate you said that some victims want another enquiry, I was simply letting you know that other victims don't want to wait that long for action to be taken. I don't know why you're so hostile about that fact being pointed out to you. The last enquiry took 7 years and cost just shy of £200m to complete, the recommendations from that report haven't been implemented yet, that's what Labour is doing now. Lots of people complain about government waste but are happy for another £200m+ to be spent on yet another enquiry on the same subject.
@@mrow278 Pester someone who is actually doing these things is my advice to you rather than pestering someone trying to help. #gimmestrength also if you pester someone with patronising nonsense you do not get to act a victim when they tell you stick it up your ass ok 👍
Delaying things for ANOTHER enquiry is ridiculous. There are recommendations from the previous enquiry, put them into law and then go from there FFS. Attempting to exploit this for political gain is sick but exactly what you'd expect from the Conservatives. It happened under their watch, they did nothing about it until they were in opposition...
The actual issue is authorities admitting on court papers that they turned a blind eye because “ideology” - they even called this a noble decision. No human should be mistreated or unsafe because of pre packaged ideologies!
Funny how this suddenly becomes such an urgent issue for the Tories after they did sweet FA about it during their 14 years in power 🙄
Pure opportunism to suit their right wing agenda and to hide their lack of action. .
Everyone is accountable but we will just watch finger pointing
@@lkeeleyjenkins3430”Everyone is accountable”
Some more than others. Badenoch was part of a government that had 14 years to bottom this out.
They did lots
Austerity defunded the justice system
Social services
They then footed councils with both additional child support requirements and gave them an additional bill for housing support
A further inquiry is just kicking the can further down the road, inquiries takes years.
Tories didn't do anything in government, and now it looks like they want to delay any implementation of guidelines from the last inquiry.
Badenoch couldn’t care less about the victims, they did absolutely nothing to sort this out for years. She is utterly shameless. Get in the bin.
Not arguing the point but are you ignoring the fact Labour don't care either ? Talk is cheap
Labour are cheap & talk to much
@ Labour have only been in a few months and are already doing something about it. Keep up.
@@leeshepherd6512 1 labour minister whilst in opposition tried to tackle this issue a decade ago and was ridiculed and attacked. By Starmer & other Labour peers
Labour have spoke a lot but is that doing something? I'm not supporting Badenoch either she has done nothing along with other Tory's.
Look into the history yourself maybe not the forced narrative being reported.
@@markoconnor9267Remind us of the actual action the last Tory government took when the enquiry findings were published more than two years ago? Also, what did Johnson say about police enquires into historic child abuse? 😮
@@leeshepherd6512 and as for keep up lol ? Don't be a hypocrite when you've clearly no knowledge of what you're talking about. You just rattle the media narrative. And trying to tag the Labour Party in your posts @deluded
The smirk of Badenock when she was called out for doing nothing says it all. That's why people voted them out.
TORIES ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS STARMAR
Kemi. Seriously. You were minister for children but didn’t cross your mind that this is not just a home office issue. Pathetic.
BOTH PARTIES ARE GUILTY - ALONG WITH THE COPS
@@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of😂😂😂
Clown
@@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7ofhow? Labour weren’t incharge for the decade long scandal. What exactly are they supposed to do?
She said she initiated investigations.
What a load of rubbish the tories were in for 14 years so they should have delt with this abuse on those poor girls 😢
What in the labour councils where all this is been going on commit the crime then point the finger typical satanic marxism vile disgusting creatures.
So that makes it OK for the current government not to act now?
95% in labour ran areas
Both sides have had plenty of time, it's been known since at least 1997...don't think the UK government has been fit for purpose for a long time honestly.
totally agree with you
Starmer was in his element. I'm very critical of him and I'm not a happy Labour voter - but he absolutley smashed this. Badenoch - who I thought did well - ended up looking the novice she is. And we all love that slight on Farage.
She deserves it tbh I rolled my eyes reading the title and It just Reeks of desperation how its all of a sudden a huge topic for her when it wasn’t a week ago or the 14 years they was in power😂 i’m guessing most people can see through the nonsense
BOTH SIDES ARE GUILTY ALONG WITH THE COPS
I smell BS from the op
@@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of Labour is acting on it now, not in the 2030s.
Starmer was on it !!! Brilliant absolutely business like and taking no bollocks from anyone !!!! Sorry for the loss of your brother Sir .
The Tories stance on grooming gangs is utterly hilarious because spent the past 14 years cutting the funding for virtually every branch of the legal system in the UK, they also failed to implement any of the recommendations from the 2022 Enquiry (according to Robert Jenrick the Tories were in the "process" of implementing the recommendations, but the General Election ruined everything).
@@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 they were planning to plan to have a meeting to plan about it..
Johnson called it 'spaffing money up the wall'
Successive governments don’t act - they talk and waffle
They weren't in the process of implementing anything. One of the very abuse victims called kemi out for bandwagon jumping last week. Said she'd met with the tories every year for the last 12 years and they implemented nothing.
AGREE BOTH PARTIES ARE GUILTY OF DOING NOTHING
Thr Tories and baf Enoch did nothing about the grooming Gangs it criminal incompetence
I'm from Rochdale (and can pronounce it correctly, it's not Roche-dale) and I'd just like you to stop mentioning the towns in question, the towns themselves aren't important it's the crimes and the victims and how to protect those victims and stop further abuses across the entire nation. Just get on and vote to put the recommended changes from the previous enquiry in place to protect children and young women against this happening now. Then after that is done you can start a new enquiry but only AFTER the previous recommendations have been put in. That way at least whilst you have your enquiry you are wanting there is more protection to fight grooming gangs in place than there was yesterday. Enquiries are just years wasted spending millions getting nothing done when we all know what needs to be done from the last enquiry and can do it now and stop there from being more victims of abuse.
The new bill focuses on controlling the victims & not listening to them.
13/03/29 Boris Johnson has said police money spent investigating historic child abuse has been “spaffed up the wall”.
Yep. Right before the 2019 election on LBC!
The last person's opinion I'm interested in is Doris. The Clown who spaffed an 80 seat majority up the wall and betrayed the people who lent their votes!
Has Badenoch no shame just a brass neck. The Tories are of course jumping on the bandwagon. They had an an enquiry and didn't implement the 20 recommendations that fact tell you all you need to know about the current Tory party.
Isn't it super awesome when a party after 14 years of negligence towards the victims can just turn the whole story around and blame it on your political opponents. A political opponent who has actually done much more to help the victims and put the guilty in jail than you and your party ever did? Great, really, how convenient.
The old Conservative song: Do nothing, neglect everything, protect the guilty and delay the trials, and when you're not in power, use whatever you screwed up yourself to attack your opponent with.
The shocking thing is that it will work for far too many Brits. So go on, vote the Tories back into power, better to know which devil you're sleeping with isn't it?
It's worse than that. Which PM gave Savile a knighthood? Treated him to lavish meals in Downing Street and Chequers? Told the BBC to turn a blind eye, just before Charter renewal? Protected him, despite Police and security services warning her about him?
well said, thank god there are still brits with brains
@neilgodwin6531 also boris Johnson who put an abuser a known abuser in a position in power in the tory party knowing he was an abuser.. it ended his reign last I checked along with covid partying.
In one case a 12 year old girl victim was questioned intensively by the defence lawyers for over 10 days! Her entire life was crawled over and she was taken to pieces. Such tactics caused cases to collapse. Starmer put a stop to such abuse of young victims and led to successful prosecutions happening
The Tories have done a lot of shameful things over the last 14 years but finger pointing about anything they had the power to deal with but sat on their hands is sickening levels
They have become beneath contempt. What has happened to the Conservative Party?
@@kevinsheahan5449Boris Johnson happened, that’s what. They were always the nasty party but the cretins he put forward… 🤯🙄 Gullis, Anderson, Mark Jenkinson and Brenda the cat just for starters. Theresa May had to sack Priti Patel for her dodgy Israel affairs and then she’s back in a top job soon after. Braverman taking nasty to a whole new level. Don’t even get me started on her LBC show from last week. They saw Reform gaining momentum and upped their ante on the divisive and unnecessary culture wars. The amount of people who still side with either of these parties is an embarrassment to the UK… and humanity.
Thought the PM did a fantastic job this PMQs. Very professional, very serious and did not rise to Badenoch’s lies.
There is no low to which the Tories will not go.
That bar isn't very high since the Tories did a bit of profiteering during COVID-19 thanks to the VIP LANE.
BOTH PARTYS ARE GUILTY ALONG WITH THE COPS
Not as low as supporting Labours stance
Just when you thought they could go no lower... Here they are, dancing to a multi billionaires tune.
@@RichardFraser-y9t and here you are giving support to the G Gangs
All the opportunity in 14yrs to do something about it and yet they did nothing. Nothing.
You could also say they enabled it because they cut the funding for basically every single branch of the legal system during their 14 years in government.
'Complicit' - says the party who did nothing while this was happening or when it was uncovered.
The Conservatives are the best thing ever to happen to Reform.
Why?
Who would be stupid enough to believe believe the bilge Nige & Richard are pedalling?
They are also the party that:
- Fired 20K Police Officers
- Closed 500 Police Stations
- Fired tens of thousands of police staff
- Closed half the courts in England
- Didn't build a new prison in 14 years
Lies. The conservatives HIRED 20K officers! Know what you are talking about if you are going to argue… 🤣
She said she raised this question , funny the official journal as no reference of it , a little fib maybe.
Not a little one …….
Big one
It wouldn't be pmqs without the tories blatantly lieing.
Badenoch is crap. This is something that both sides should agree on not argue over.
Exactly, if the Jay Review recommendations had been put into law by the Conservatives I can't imagine Labour or the Lib-Dems voting against it.
Get the bill passed then go from there. Hopefully people remember what the Conservatives are doing here and keep them out of power forever.
I'd make the Tories pay back all their salaries all 14 years of them , 14 years every tory MP for what did we get ???? Leave them with a massive debt every one of them , they broke the public contract to serve the people not delay and bluster putting girls in danger
Badenough is really out of her depth.
Totally hopeless and is unable to plant the blow that causes the PM to squirm. She won't be tory leader for long. Starmer dealt with her easily and genuinely wants the tories to stop playing politics and support the bill. If they follow the whip then they will just be exposed for being the nasty party yet again.
@@philipdouglas5911Because there is no blow. The controversy is totally manufactured.
The tories better not effing block this.
They couldn't be arsed to get the victims justice within the decade they were in power for but now they also refuse to let labour get justice for the victims. Its utter bull.
If you're inept and unable to deliver, fine, BUT don't stand in the way of someone else trying to do the right thing.
It will go through because Labour have the majority but I hope people in the Conservative Party show how many principles they have left.
Starmer's ability to coherently slap back at this nonsense is, to be frank, a relief
What is nonsense? Victims getting justice is nonsense to you?
yes she just gave him the perfect opportunity to speak facts and show the honourable man he is
@@JOsc4-v Can't even be bothered to entertain you with a correction. You're being deliberately ignorant and you know it.
@@JOsc4-v did you even watch the video you div
@@holdmusic_ yes, what is this nonsense you are talking about?
Tories literally had 14 years to make any inquiries regarding child abuse. I call this a fake Outrage from the Tories.
I wasn’t sure about Starmer as I’m left leaning and didn’t like the way he pivoted right after what happened to Jeremy but Iv gotta admit, he seems to want/do his best for the country and has got a lot better at PMQs. The thought of the Tories getting back in or even worse reform is too dark to mention
Hmmm…
I would vote for tories because im not a fan of starmer but with kemi at the head that patty looks shambolic and i’d never cote flr farage so I guess the only option is starmer
Why are the Tories acting like they haven’t been in power for 14 years?
Delusion is the only thing that keeps them going
Because voters have the memory of a goldfish
Why are Labour acting like Blair didn't exacerbate this problem in the 90's?
@@adamsharrocks8212 because he didn’t
@@thepepper191 Well, we can agree to disagree on this. The point is that the issue of CSE of this type has been going on since at least the 1980's and that each successive government has done nothing about it. I'm not shilling for the Tories but my opinion is that the only reason Labour have suddenly addressed this issue is because they were being criticised by Elon Musk. To my knowledge it wasn't one of their policy proposals prior to the election. If at the start of his premiership Starmer had announced "we're going to do what the tories couldn't on the issue of R gangs" then I'd have more respect for his government. Honestly, I think this whole discussion is a distraction and a way not to address an issue that's needed addressing for decades. To me this is not about labour and conservative it's about vulnerable children and a culture of political inaction on both sides.
Peace
She's contradicted herself saying shes brought up the issue in parliament before then says she wouldn't have been speakong about the issue as she wasn't a minister. Muppet.
Children’s , women’s and equality minister …. She knows Starmer had her …… she didn’t need to be a Home Office minister to speak out on the abuse of girls …….
Truly chilling and utterly disgusting how quickly and eagerly bad Enoch is to allow further child abuse and systematic gang rape, purely in the hope of gaining some political points.
On top of her many years of ignoring the issue whilst actually in her remit.
Vile
Tories brought nonsense to a informed fight....embarrasing
How many recommendations did she and her government implement on the child sexual abuse inquiry?
Zero
None.
they done NUFFIN 🤷♂️
This performance killed her chances. Time for her to step down. Disgusting leader of the opposition
I'm sorry, but did Kemi seriously just compare Tavistock to Grooming gangs?
It's just a name she pulled from a hat. Or Google maps
Tories will jump on any bandwagon that’s going even if it means voting against measures to protect children. Shame on all of them for not rebuking President Musk’s ranting. Badenoch slaughtered this afternoon.
Starmer comes across so much better when he is a little less controlled and shows some passion - wish we saw more of this side of him.
Maybe it's not a coincidence that this side of him is not common to see.
Did all this grooming gang stuff happen under the Tories watch ??
Hypocrites!!
no it was first uncovered 2004 and then the unelected pm in 2008 told the police in an e`mail to ignore, both parties are complicit more labou,r because most of the places this was and still is happening are labour controlled councils so please get it right
No but the findings were and they did nothing. Now they are crying.
@@kevinhamilton1177 Read that circular have you?
Shove off Tories you ruddy well had an enquiry 2.5 years ago and you did nothing.
She's like the worst politician ever , up there with Lizzy the dizzy truss
A seven year long national report which ran (at a cost of 186 million) and concluded on the tories watch, from which they chose to nothing is not good enough for them, but then they seem to have suffered mass amnesia to the last 14 years.
The hypocrites.
Musk is shouting about it so the Babadook has to kiss his ring and make it the big deal ffs 🤬🤬🤬 Imagine if the Tories were still in power? Not a word would be said about the "victims" of this scandal. They'd just be worshipping President Musk as they are in opposition. Utter scum.
Bloody hell Keir… that was impressive
Musk says jump and the Tories & Reform say how high
14 years in power and the Tories did NOTHING. She really lives up to her name - BAD-Enoch (certainly doesn't really look like an Enoch!)..
😂😂😂😂
Kimi Bad-at-this
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Torys are good at enquireies as a way of stalling any actions.
Badenoch reminds me of when Tommy Robinson nearly collapsed a trial through self aggrandisement in that she's using this to gain political capitol whilst blocking real change.
It won't look good when the media report the bill to protect children and say *** (insert number) Tories voted against.
Even worse, if they say ** Tories defied Kemi BadEnoch and voted in favour of the bill.
It's sad that a world where grandstanding an issue gains more capital, than actually making the sweeping changes you're espousing would. Ludicrous.
Labour politicians that may be complicit - she has a nerve!
That was a shameful insinuation, she is disgusting.
She wants to spend more tax payers money to highlight her political position.
i wonder if she and her party remember the other scandals...like the horizon situation with the post office, the infected blood, the scandalous behaviour of boris johnson and the rest of them...hmm
On your bike Kemi....on your bike!
🚴🏼♀️
She couldn't ride a bile without falling off! Mummy and Daddy probably ferried her everywhere when she wasn't at boarding school
Well said
BOTH PARTIES ARE GUILTY
And the tax payer pays . Ridiculous all these inquiries. Get the home office to deal with it in conjunction with the police. What did the Tories do? Playing games between mogg and Johnson.
Johnson said just before the 2019 general election that police enquires into historic child abuse were a waste of time.
@@PSI-qf8bq'spaffing money up the wall' was the phrase.
I suppose only public school oiks will understand what 'spaffing' means, but I would guess something crude
KEIR HAS A STRONG SOUL TO GO BACK TO WORK AFTER YOUR BROTHER YOUR BLOOD JUST LEFT THIS WORLD LETS NEVER EVER FORGET OUR LOVED ONES HOW MUCH THEY DID FOR US HOW MUCH WE LOVE THEM WEATHER IT WAS UP OR DOWN IN LIFE LOVE WILL NEVER DIE FOR THEM 🙏
What on earth is this BS about not being seen as being racist??? This seems like a ploy to stoke anger and animosity towards said race. How on earth is holding criminals to account racist in anyway? Why even bring up their race?
This all seems like an act to sow division and scapegoat.
I dare say she would call me a racist if I spoke my mind to her but I wouldn't care.
No, there was in fact some reference to fear of being labelled racist among the authorities who "turned a blind eye". I have no idea whether it was said in good faith (my instinct would be that it was not), but it seems a rather shabby excuse. Rape is a physical crime that leaves physical traces. It can be determined objectively, without reference to race or ethnicity. In my opinion, far bigger reasons were misogyny and classism: the police didn't care much about people they saw as "low-class girls".
Even though Labour is not doing so well by any account, we are cheered up thinking how infinitely worse if the Tories had been still in power
and we have at least some respite.
They're pissing off all the right people.
Doing well....they literally just got into power and have to clean up all the crap that ppl let the Tories get away with for Years.... What u think they would do ....fox everything in months
Abuse is sadly part of human life. We need fully funded services but even then abuse will happen because the vast majority of abuse is carried out by people well known to the victim families essentially
Is she really the best the Tories have got?
is Keir best labour got? At least kemi knows who the real enemies are
@@user-kf1he2pk3l probably. They’re really having to scrape the barrel since most of their MPs lost their jobs.
Kemi Bad enough
@@MrMakosiIt's Labour, not labour. Kemi, not kemi. Clearly, your English teacher wasn't the best either.
"Kemi knows who the enemies are". We know the enemies of this country. Musk, Trump and all on the right who want to hand us over to Putin
Yea and all their fans have is "nO yOu" in response lol
The Tories are playing a game, it's utterly disgusting.
14 years of inaction.
It wasn't 14 years of inaction because the Tories made actively made things worse by cutting the funding for every branch of the UK's legal system.
The Tories are pandering to Musk, too.
They want his money
It a shameful act form Tories to play the politics on this matter. Tories were in power for 14 years. They failed the country and now they're playing the dirty politics.
In the last inquiry 22 recommendation came up but Tories did not took any action.
National enquiry is a waste of time and taxpayers money. Why not take action on those 22 recommendations instead????
Sir Kier was excellent here
The torys did not follow through when in government...... now it has their attention.
Why are comments highlighting that one of the very Rotherham victims called Kemi out last week for the tories doing nothing being deleted?
Some would called this an obliteration.
The Tories treated this with lazy indifference. As they did the electorate .They were sacked into political oblivion because of their ineptitude .
Yet once again , it's Starmers fault .
I fear the only winners in what has been a deplorable week are Elon Musk and Nigel Farage.
You mean Nigel Garbagé ?
I don't think so. They may be shouting the loudest - but those who do don't last that long in politics. They're fighting like cats in a sack 5 years before an election!! If Starmer actually passes some bills and takes action he'll appear to be actually doing something whereas the Right are just infighting.
Nigel Disparage
Farage was humiliated by Musk after years spent sucking up to him. Not exactly a great week for him
Wrong there. Musk cr*pped on Fartage from a great height. Starlink orbit, in fact.
Musk, in turn, has been slapped down by the President of Brazil, President of Panama, the German Chancellor and Sir Keir Starmer. His businesses are failing, droves of cancellations of Cybertruck orders, people still leaving TwitteX, and no one is going to trust Grok except Diaper Donny, and he's slapped Felon down, too.
National Inquiries are official procrastination - nothing more, nothing less. One has only to see what has happened in the Contaminated Blood business and the Post Office Scandal to name but two of many to see that they are ways of putting off doing anything apart from lining the pockets of those conducting those inquiries.
“Leader of the opposition, kemmeh beyenneh”
Her delivery still hasnt improved. You see newbies faltering at first but then turn into attack dogs ( even Corbyn did ) Shes still too quiet with no emphasis or altering tone.
It's going to take more than a change of tone of voice to actually make her come out with an intelligent remark.
@@paul8161she needs a change of brain 🧠
I don't like Kemi, but I wonder if her quiet tone is due to the "angry black woman" trope/ stereotype that so many black women have to deal with. Black women are judged more harshly than any other ethnicity when they raise their voice, I don't know why but I've seen it happen with my own eyes. A lot of my black friends talk about how it makes them very aware of their volume and tone when speaking, they say they're always having to monitor their own words.
@Jordan_Starr I have the same problem as a white male, what a nightmare,, I seen it happen to my freinds cor.. terrible.
She needs a higher IQ and less of trying to appease the gammons
Starmer is head and shoulders above the Tories
Did she pronounce Rochdale Rosh-dale??
14:25 "one of the worst scandals in recent history" Have the Tories already forgotten about the VIP Lane scandal, you know the scandal where they did a bit of profiteering during the 2020 pandemic.
Where's the Archbishop of Canterbury when you need him? Oh, yeah, I remember...
Let's not go down that road. He was given assurances that correct procedures had been followed when in fact they had not been.
@@philipdouglas5911 Don't defend the COE and it's noncery, it's actually quite grim you'd do that. The COE and noncery go hand in hand like the Royal family and noncery.
He's sucking upto royal family
Starmer absolutely out classed her here
The council’s police social works and the staff in children’s homes should be named shamed and accountable for there lack of action .
their* tone your anger and realise how complex these issues are :)
Recently two retired police officers were arrested in relation to the grooming, from the 1990’s.
Money victim stated in the Jay inquiry when she was 12, went to the police who told her to ‘come back when you are not drunk’.
This is the most disgusting thing the Tories have ever done.
*the latest disgusting thing
These two make my blood boil, tit for tat across the floor but nothing gets done, Labour and Conservative have been in charge of this country for over 100 years, it's time for change people, we MUST get Reform into power at the next general election
People were scared of being labelled 'racists' so they allowed child predators to continue their abuse???
Either these people don't exist or they didn't have enough evidence to support their beliefs (as the arrests, charges, and convictions of the predators would absolve the accuser of most claims)
Nobody was scared of being labelled a racist. Some racists have been crying wolf and making accusations about 'pakistanis' for decades, so when they accuse large groups of them of something so serious, it's their fault if nobody believes them.
No, that point is not untrue. They did *say* that (though I would question whether they believed it). The main reason they didn't take action is that they looked down on the girls as "scum".
The reality of Kemi is that her party talks and posts a lot on X but doesn't take any actual action on what they say. They are no more than simply people pleasers.
However, there should be a National Enquiry for more evidence to be provided under Oath.
I hate to say it , but another National Enquiry would push everything back . Deal with what we know , other evidence is bound to come to the fore as it is implimented …..
Especially with mandatory reporting…….
@@jackmorley7444 interesting fact …… BadEnoch hasn’t met any victims ……. How would she know what they saying about any enquiry then ? She claimed today she knew some wanted it , some wanted Jay enacted ………
No enquiry yet, implement the recommendations of the LAST enquiry and push through Labour's bill this afternoon
Kemi Bad
Cameron and Osbourne set this country's decline in motion, and this is the current state of that shambles of a party. What an egomaniac she is
I would prefer for the COVID enquiry to be revisited and to proceed in introducing legislation based on the finding of the report the conservatives sat on and did noting with.
this kind of pandering to popularism is like fake holographic politics
Badenoch doesn’t give two hoots about victims she’s just a coconut
Oh that was Home Office problem, not mine. Yeah, nice dodge Kemi 🙄
Tories out forever
what a surprise.
Still TALKING about.........rather than DOING.
Haven't we seen this movie before ?
Tories 15 years, remember how awfull the country is has gone, pure hate and the poor disabled
She said something like “well I wasn’t home office minister” - you were a minister though?? Did you not have Priti Patel’s number? You couldn’t ring her up and say “let’s implement some of the things from these recommendations”??
It’s not good enough to that as minister for women and children that this thing was just, not your problem, not your fault.
Honestly Starmer didn’t come off well here. He could have hit her *way* harder for her inaction on these points.
As a member of the Cabinet she had 'collective responsibility'. My previous MP was Sajid Javid and he replied to my letters on various issues, citing this cop-out as a reason for doing nothing.
She could have resigned if Patel didn't do anything after she voiced any concerns, but her 'career' was more important to her.
Collective responsibility means she is equally guilty of inaction to protect children
@ collective irresponsibility more like. Everyone agreeing that everything was someone else’s job and as a result the job never gets done - like I think we’ve worked in offices where this was the attitude and that always ended up being a nightmare, and this is how they run a country like.
I’m not even confident she *did* voice her concerns. She said she “did a couple speeches” but as a cabinet minister you don’t need to do speeches you just need to do phone calls.
And the actual topic isn’t at the forefront of this debate, just pointing fingers at each other as per ! Those poor girls
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Not a single police officer or social worker has been sacked for covering up the grooming gangs scandal and not reporting crimes they were made aware of...that's why a national inquiry is required and those people need to be exposed
when are these tories going to be locked up
3:02 blaming an incoming government for previous failure is beyond the pale and proves contempt for victims on all sides… #exploitation is what it is no doubt however this is not how you resolve matter - it just proves how weak Starmer et al were in opposition so mud all round… can we do some dealing with the matter?
Why cant they do both? Action and enquiry?
Badanoch should just acknowledge the tories failings and her regrets but put it to the PM that a full public enquiry is required now. So much information was suppressed due to the offenders being of a certain ethnic minority. The truth needs to be sought and brought to the surface. And Starmer would get massive credit if he actually tells his MPs to vote for one!!
The reality is that there are more white abuse than ethnic minority abuse and that is why the tories didn't act!
The Tories can’t admit that ……. It would admit they are incompetent and should never be in power again
That would totally screw up Farage too. He would have nothing to argue about, unless he wanted to keep things quiet.
But at the same time she should not be trying to sabotage the bill to protect children. That's not a good look.
Ask for the enquiry AFTER the bill gets Royal Assent. But that wouldn't play well with the Daily Heil and Reform
@ I just think if Starmer calls for one then he eliminates all his critics, for which he has many!!
Am I missing something. Why cant we have the bill and an inquiry. Surely both are good?
We continue to find it amusing how this channel and the channel of the Conservative party continue to have the exact same title for their PMQ’s video - just swapping around Starmer and Badenoch!
2:10 so it is true victims are calling for further investigation but the government position is no. This is all I need to know really??
Victims are also calling for action rather than another enquiry, which victims wishes should be listened to?
@ I don’t know 🤷♂️ I don’t speak for them - do you? Are you representing these victims? What are the downsides to an investigation?? Why would one be against such a thing?? Because they have colleagues implicated one would presume - so you are suggesting not investigate is that right? Look I watch the news a lot and most of this is unknown and it’s been left to fascists to make it a story - this is how utterly non-existent a “left” we have there is no opposition…. No one is advocating for these victims both sides are scoring points - to be honest looks like that’s what you’ve writing to me for? What you asking me this for? I’m not a victim of this crime what I want is not high priority…but I imagine service users would like some reassurance given the state of services - this is huge scandal next to no action….you are fine with it is that right?? Defend the reds no matter who it hurts….
@munchuriancandidate you said that some victims want another enquiry, I was simply letting you know that other victims don't want to wait that long for action to be taken. I don't know why you're so hostile about that fact being pointed out to you.
The last enquiry took 7 years and cost just shy of £200m to complete, the recommendations from that report haven't been implemented yet, that's what Labour is doing now. Lots of people complain about government waste but are happy for another £200m+ to be spent on yet another enquiry on the same subject.
@@mrow278 Pester someone who is actually doing these things is my advice to you rather than pestering someone trying to help. #gimmestrength also if you pester someone with patronising nonsense you do not get to act a victim when they tell you stick it up your ass ok 👍
Delaying things for ANOTHER enquiry is ridiculous. There are recommendations from the previous enquiry, put them into law and then go from there FFS.
Attempting to exploit this for political gain is sick but exactly what you'd expect from the Conservatives. It happened under their watch, they did nothing about it until they were in opposition...
why don't they ask people in the effected constituencies if they want an inquiry and then either do one or don't. no need for this theatre.
The actual issue is authorities admitting on court papers that they turned a blind eye because “ideology” - they even called this a noble decision.
No human should be mistreated or unsafe because of pre packaged ideologies!