I feel like Caine’s line of mixing up a human with an NPC is not hinting that one of the characters is an NPC, but that he’s killed a human before believing they were an NPC
Tbh when Caine was like "who knows what could happen", I just interpreted it as his usual weirdness and didn't really think it was hinting at anything.
@@Ventriloquism I really hope it does hint at something, seems very weird to leave out such a huge plot points, NPCs being able to become self aware and sentient and potentially Cain killing a human.
I think there is more proof that he can't kill the players or real caracters becuse if he culd why wuld he put abstracted people in the celler why not yust kill them unles he can't
@@chaosgamer016_5 coz I believe he did kill someone in the past and learned from that, and has been careful since then, putting the abstacted ones to that cellar as his way to remind himself or something. Or probably he's collecting the abstracted ones, hoping to learn to fix them in the future.
Commenting here so people see this more. If Jax is a hacker, would he be the only human in the digital circus to accept getting his real life taken? because he may not be able to leave on his will, and since he got where the audience was, he probably got into the digital circus' engine before and maybe learned to enable transparent objects to be seen by his client side.
You never know, he might think he's the main character and think everyone else is just a plaything for him Either that or his cooping mechanism for being stuck in the Digital circus is letting his torment out on others...
@@Digicara64no, I think he acts more like Gwenpool. If I remember correctly, Gwenpool knew she was in a comic book when she first got to the Marvel universe and she killed people because she didn’t see any consequences as she didn’t see them as real.
Considering Jax is listed as one of the only characters who deserves to be trapped in circus, I say he is a hacker. It fits with him having keys to everyone's bedroom and how he was able to steal the key from Ragatha without her noticing.
The Fudge claiming Jax as the "Master of Unlocking Things" made me think maybe Jax knew something about the Circus that no one else knows or has access to. Does Kinger know anything about what Jax is doing? Possibly. He just can't call him out on it in the open.
The same thing also happened when he laughed at Pomni for getting spooked by his jumpscare, so it’s not linked to his breath, it’s just something that happens on occasion when whatever he’s expressing is more intense than his usual demeanour ^^
I’m just gonna throw out an absolutely wild thought here … what if Bubble is a human? But Caine was so convinced that they were an NPC, that he accidentally placed NPC restrictions on Bubble, and this is what caused Caine so much trauma about sometimes being unable to differentiate between Humans and NPCs. He digitally paralyzed a Human.
So, I did a little deep dive on Gooseworx's tumblr recently, and someone asked this exact question. Her response was "Bubble is an NPC." I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think Bubble was human ever
@@Em_Cee669 ah I see, thanks for the info! I’m still very suspicious of Bubble … I don’t know if this was a complete coincidence or not but … in Episode 3, we encounter God’s Angel, and are told it’s only one of them, and in Episode 1, Bubble eats the Angel Cake that Caine was offering to Pomni … like I said, I don’t know if this was simply a mere coincidence or if there was actually a deeper meaning to it, but I’m pretty sure I’m forever suspicious of Bubble now XD
@@Em_Cee669 Personally, I fail to see even that (where they are coming from). Any explanations for how this theory would make any semblance of sense? Because I'm quite curious about that.
The hacker theory is interesting considering we recently learned that Kinger learned computer science for 7 years… and in a previous episode Jax says, “since when were you an expert on the digital world?” As if he is not aware of Kinger’s tech experience
I think Jax just has what people call "Toonforce". Everyone in the Circus have their own powers or gimmicks (Ragatha is immune to most damage since she's a doll, Gangle's mood depends on her mask, Zooble has their interchangeable pieces, Kinger has his floating eyes and hands and Pomni has a rubber-like body) So since Jax is meant to be a Bugs Bunny-like character it makes sense for him to have all of these cartoon character powers, for example, during the first episode Jax probably got Kaufmo's keys out of nowhere, this is how this type of character works, they can do whatever they want if it's convenient. If Jax truly is so powerful he wouldn't have been tied up so easily during the third episode. If this Theory happens to be true it will mean Jax isn't some sort of hacker, virus or NPC, just a lucky player who got some really OP powers.
FUN FACT : 1st, Jax by Gooseworx herself describes him as a troubled person and that is what makes him Jax, 2nd it was also said that he’s scared of / hates corn cause he’s reminded of either working or living on a farm, 3rd He also got to Choose his own name and gangle which wouldn’t make sense if he’s an NPC ,because that means he didn’t have a name before the adventure, and also merch can be deceiving or misleading with designs .
Good I'm going to use some corn to haunt that zesty looking twink furry fnaf Bonnie wannabe with those unbrushed yellow teeth. Ragatha was so cool in ep 3 now I also want to see Gangle getting revenge as well.
Make me wonder if Goosework’s statement about him “deserving to be in the circus the most” can be taken in by a more literal meaning. He belongs there because he’s from there.
huh, didn't expect to find you here, also I've gotten into this channel though the "What if They were in smash?" stuff, so uh, maybeee start doing that again if ya can, Sorry if there's a reason for why it stopped that I never bothered to listen to, so you can ignore this if that's the case, but if not, well, it'd be nice to see that series return, :)
I prefer the theory of Jax being a hacker, as this can be applied to his character, leading to his interesting and possible degenerate schemes of storylines for his character's impact on the show.
Maybe inside his room he CAN leave the circus, and he does, only to come back later everyday. Not telling anyone, because it's funny to mess with them like this. "Jax is listed as one of the only characters who deserves to be trapped in circus" You could deserve a punishment, and not receive it (:
Third option, Jax was part of the development team and he's the reason people get stuck there. Fourth option, Jax is a copy of a person, not fully human, but still considered as a player character.
Not only do I believe Jax is a hacker, I believe hes not actually trapped in the circus, he can leave at any time through his door. I also have a small sub theory that his fourth wall breaks is because he's livestreaming everything to an audience in the real world, and he's addressing the viewers. It may also explain why he constantly goes for the more chaotic option; it makes for an entertaining show, and Jax needs the validation of his viewers, people who actually matter to him.
I think the reason Jax became obsessed with keys is he probably is looking for the admin quarters so he can reconfigure the game to his liking...he actually wants to use the tech to live his fantasy but can't and maybe his five letter name is Ghaxs
I really don't believe Jax is an NPC, I theorized that he's a playtester who knows everything about the Digital Circus which let's him do all the suspicious stuffs
@SuperWiiBros08 I agree with you, tough i don't think he is a play tester, since this minda clashes with the theory of kinger making the game (wich I think could be real) since kinger entered before Jax, so it would be a bit late for playtesting, tough i do believe he played the game a lot before getting stuck in it, and maybe hes a also hacker or something.
Or that hes a playtester and while all his memories were erased, his skills allowef him to study the game. Through a lack of memory, what was supposed to be his mission (playtest) and his character got jumbled. He now just has a vague sense of not ever interacting with amything in the *intended* way.
More proof that he may be a hacker is the fact that for some reason he has spare keys to everybody's room. This is weird because why would multiple keys be produced when the room is just for one person? and where would he have got these keys from?
goose did say that he deserves to be there more than anyone else, and since he's only 22, him making this 90s video game wouldn't make any sense. him being some jerky hacker who fucked around and found out makes a lot of sense for how he acts.
@@jestphoenix Remember when he said "Supposedly Kinger has been here the longest" What if Jax has been there the longest and the reason we don't see his room is because it would be a dead giveaway to his age when he showed up in the circus.
@RobbyTheRogue the thing is that kinger is not only the oldest, but also has a master's degree in computer science. they're hinting pretty heavily that he is the "Abel" of the circus and was directly involved in the development. i believe jax has been in the circus for a good few years at this point, but definitely not longer than kinger. him being in there the longest seems like something he'd take the opportunity to brag about and hold over the others' heads at every opportunity. he's got more access to the circus than our other characters, but that lends moreso to the hacker theory (he's literally cheating the system) than lying about something that would make another person look superior to him.
@@jestphoenix Unless he's been there long enough to figure out how to get around and would be self conscious about telling others he's been stuck there longer then them.
Ok, as we've seen, Gummygoo and the other episode 2 NPCs had their models loaded outside the map, like our IRL NPCs. Which means that if Jax is an NPC then we should have his model loaded somewhere in the circus, so, if Jax managed to manipulate/hack that empty room, I think this gives us 3 possibilities for Jax's room: 1- A portal leading to Jax's original world where he escaped from to act like another human in the Digital Circus. 2- There is nothing behind the door, just the inmense void that covers the entire Circus. 3- His room is just a small locker with his model inside, always loading, letting Jax stay in the Circus just like that.
A Fourth Possibility is that Jax hijacked an Existing Player's Room after they had Abstracted, and transposed his image on the Door to convince others he was another Player. If Kinger is the only Player still present now to know this, then he'd know exactly how Dangerous Jax is, and hides the truth for his own Safety...
My theory is that Jax will be revealed as an npc in episode 5. So gooseworks has revealed that evil versions of the characters will be a part of episode 5, and I think that it’s an adventure that Cain has done before. My idea is that the original Jax went on that adventure hence why he has a door, but I think that the npc evil Jax replaced or tricked the original Jax, and that Caine deleted him. That’s why he has a door but I don’t think he can actually open it
I think this actually works out. In Ep.2 Ragatha/Zooble (I forgot which one) comforts Pomni after Gumigoo is poofed saying "I heard Caine likes to reuse NPC's sometimes." We might just get good Jax back. Could be true? Could be false. Who knows?
This has actually been confirmed! He canonically has a severe balding issue, so he frequently covers himself in purple glue and fake fur to compensate. :o When he holds his breath all of it pops right off so it is a bit traumatizing for him!
I remember in one post Gooseworx said that "Jax deserves to be in the circus". This could go 2 possible ways: - Jax is an npc and there would be real danger if an npc gains sapience and somehow effects the circus and the real world. - Jax is a human who was a bully or sociopath in the real world and the circus keeps his dangerous tendencies contained.
He is the only character who is symmetrical Edit: I think Jax's nihilistic antics are his coping mechanism and have fully embraced a 'consequence free' attitude as some would in a normal video game.
Two things, firstly, I think deep in the box is better, secondly addressing an imaginary audience is a thing I (and a few people I know who did theater) do as a bit in real life, Jax acts like he did theater if you know what I mean, so there is that. I think there’s something up with him but I don’t know if that’s hinting to it, I don’t remember if any other npcs address the audience but I don’t think they do
Something up with him? He's been desperately trying to hide his bald spot!!! If you look in the background art you can see him constantly trying to hide it with purple glue and fake hair
Goose's biggest inspirations (besides I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream), is Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure. Jax is heavily inspired by Andy, who she managed to get Michael Kovach to voice just by asking for an impression of the character. That's why he acts like he's in theatre. As for the NPC part, I feel like it's unlikely they have that much awareness, unless he's an NPC that found his way into The Void, and knows that there is more out there.
@@Em_Cee669 I think that Jax found something he shouldn't have access to and he's playing his game now with whatever goal he has.. I think that theory that Jax saw something in the Void is pretty interesting 👀
Ya know, there’s also a bit of a theme, here with the characters and the archetypes of gamers and gamer behavior types Jax is the Troll/Hacker-The gamer who’s cheats and plays dirty and shows his true self and ideals with an avatar. Pomni the first time player/Non-Gamer-The one who’s completely out of her depth and gets the most frustrated by everyone’s way of playing the game. Zooble the Jaded Casual-The gamer who prefers to skip events and other players to play the game to simply play and experiment. Gangle The shy casual follower- The gamer who plays a lot but is quite unskilled and avoids other players too. Ragatha The rule follower-Similar to the First timer, but got most of the gist of gaming and the rules of the game and can’t stand Hackers/Trolls Kinger The founder/The veteran-The one gamer who has the most experience when it comes to gaming and has developed a few games, but the players and developers demands and actions has driven him to a point of madness.
Love that design for jack cut, and i wonder if the way each persons breath changes has a reason? Like, why does kinger glow? Seems like it would actually be annoying for him, cause he can only be sane when he’s in the dark.
I think when Jax stops breathing all his fake hair falls out revealing his shiney wrinkley skin underneath! :o We saw it in some of the previous eastereggs so it makes sense
so where something to think, if the adventure is made for zooble, i have one question, HOW THE HECK WOULD SHE PASS THE HALL OF THE DAMNED ALONE? she needs to hold breath to escape hell right? but if jax saying is true, then zooble would stop right? did caine just made a impossible challange for zooble?
What if he's made to torture them along with being trapped in a dangerous game? Pomni says "He just wants to see me suffer." And who likes to see them suffer? Jax...
@@bahesb2419 Honestly, I'm not sure about that. When Pomni talks about Caine, it's always questions ABOUT Caine to the others. Indicating she doesn't know much about Caine's motives. But "He wants me to suffer" is said in a very certain way. Also notice how she talks very certain about deserving to be in hell. AND all these lines are said in the dark. My theory? Just as Kinger, Pomni has clearer memories in the dark. She knows who wants her to suffer and why she deserves to be in hell. And if this theory is correct then Pomni has reasons not to tell Kinger about what she knows. Or she meant Caine.
Something I want to bring up real quick is that I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream only has 5 humans being tortured whereas digital circus has 6. Not guaranteed, but depending on how closely related the two are it could mean someone in the digital circus crew is an imposter.
Jax being a hacker is a lot more plausible when you consider that he can perform actions that other characters are unable to do. A good example of this is how Jax can grab and throw the others while; in the pilot, we see Kinger unable to grab Zooble and having his hands ripped off.
I feel more inclined to believe that Jax would be a hacker, instead of an npc. It would make even more sense because in the pilot he 'supposedly' has keys to every room, which could imply that he might be a hacker
Wealth, Fame, Power. Jax, the King of the Digital Circus, attained everything the reality had to offer. The words he uttered just before he left drove his friends to scavenge. "The exit? If you want it, you can have it! Find it! I left the entrance to the real world there!" And so, his friends started to scavenge in pursuit of freedom! The reality has truly entered a great era!
Something else I wanna add, in episode one after the adventure, Jax says, “So what? I can still be hungry.” Kinger points out the error in Jax’s logic, but this could show that Jax’s AI and programming functions differently than the players
What if Jax is actually the oldest person in the digital circus? and he kept this a secret by lying to everyone? basically, maybe he's lived there so long that he's got tired of caring about anything and he just screws around now. makes sense too because kinger wouldn't even remember.
I think Jax is an NPC BECAUSE he breaks the 4th wall. I think he was an Original NPC from when the game was first made and was intended for children and talks to the audience like how a point and click adventure game character wood. And he does these things subconsciously because its part of his programing. He also mentioned in episode 1 that they'd have to do the song all over again.
@@greygaston1263 Like he's the equivalent to Swipper from Dora the Explorer. But now he has many more people to play with. When he couldn't mess with people in the second episode he was angry that he couldn't hurt people. I think him joining the Human in the Circus may be whats causing people to extract.
What if he is a hacker and the reason he has his more ‘meta’ abilities is because the way he jacked into the game allowed him to retain more of himself. Maybe hes only stuck there because jerryrigging the game in such a way made it so if he tries to hack his way out, it might short circuit the discount hardware hes using.
The hacker theory would make more sense, like maybe he was hired to get dirt or data on the company and just accidentally got himself stuck and decided to be a total jerk to everyone and pretty distant, I dont think he'd be like a whistleblower but eh
Jax reminds me of the kind of player who looks for exploits/glitches in a game. Either for beta testing, early access, or just fun. Not a hacker, but just someone who pushes the engine to its limits.
The first thing that tipped me off to Jax being an NPX was in the first episode when he asked Caine if Pomni was another one of "his humans or another NPC".
The deduction series brings to life the captivating tale of individuals thrust into a digital realm, where they take on new identities akin to non-player character (NPC)-like entities, yet they are far from being mere NPCs. Among them, Jax shines brightly with his daring and self-assured demeanor, setting him apart from the typical NPC. His choices and interactions hint at a retained human consciousness and individuality, even within the confines of this virtual domain. Thus, Jax is no mere NPC; he is a human transformed into a digital persona.
@@ThePr0_0149 That's pretty neat. Let's hope they didn't see some of the "fanart" - That would make them abstract right away. Or get horny. .. What's that? Oh, no no no, my dear. No. There is NOT an third option. There isn't one, just like there is no escape from the Circus ;)
I like the idea of Jax being a hacker. Like he hacked the game so he could have more fun with it, but one of the times when he played his hacked version, he ended up in the circus. On the surface he doesn’t care because know he can behave how he pleases, but maybe he views this as some type of punishment, especially when he goes back to his nonexistent room
If Jax was an NPC, then how would he know who Augustus Gloop is? Goose has mentioned that characters can remember parts of their lives and Jax clearly does when he said "we're one tanker away from getting Augustus Glooped!" He can only know about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory if he was a human.
Well,i don't think Charlie and the Chocolate factory is a REALLY important thing one would remember,so this begins the question how does he know about it? My theory is that if he IS an NPC,he has a similar acces to information like caine(we saw caine connect to the internet all the way back in the pilot)
@@TheRealAxolotlAnimates while caine shows pomni the tent(his eyes turn blue and the subtitles say something about the internet,you can also hear old internet noises)
I think the manakin isn't a blank slate meant to be filled when a new "player" enters the world. In the new episode 3 at 1:03 you can see a manakin in the right hiding behind a wall, and then it slips away. I think that's an actual person but they're not involved with this crew for some reason. Maybe cause they don't have a face and mouth so they can't communicate. Maybe their personality is mimicking other people or something and that's why their character is like a blank slate.
My take from Jax is that he might just have been a gamer streamer before the circus and to keep sane he treats everything like a game. Imagine if all he’s been doing was in the intention of speedrunning the games? Such as the way that in the second episode he is quick to get a weapon and get onto the truck to speedrun the candy canyon kingdom. Additionally he is the only one who takes the time to criticise the game for not being appealing to him, in the same way that a RUclipsr does, and unlike someone who wishes to survive.
Honestly I had this idea that not only is Jax an NPC, but there is a *real* Jax, who maybe got trapped in a prior adventure related to the players facing NPC reflections of themselves. Ragatha mentions how Caine likes to reuse things at the end of episode 2, so if enough new players have shown up between that adventure and Pomni's arrival, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that he might just decide to rerun that adventure since there's only a few players who actually went on it the first time.
I think even though it's confirmed that no character is an NPC if any character is, it would be Gangle. In the most recent episode (4), Zooble has a mask that looks like Gangle.
He's neither. He just understands that ultimately he is doomed. That does things to a person. In this case he looks for ways to amuse himself before he too falls to abstraction. Absolutely nothing matters.
I’d like to point out that in glitch’s “digital circus but smol” video when all the characters are turinging into figurines when Jax is the last one he says “Oh there all gone? I didn’t even get to tell them-“ then he gets cut off
I feel jax is a hacker/creator The reason we can’t see his room is because it wasn’t developed. In video games whenever you have a house sometimes you never get to see the inside. I think this means jax is simply the player and whenever all the others go in their room he gets off the game.
Imagine him actually being able to get off the game while everyone sleeps hinting at why his room has the void behind it in the enamel pin merch. It would make sense why Jax acts the way he does. He can just log off whenever he wants but needs to be strategic on when he does. (Like at night when people are asleep.) So he acts like how sociopath would when playing videogames because he veiws the other PLAYERS as NPC's too. (Technically anyone but yourself in a game is an NPC. From Jax's perspective he is the player and say Ragatha, Gangle, Pomni, Kinger, as well as Zooble aren't him so they are considered NPC's in his eyes. He might not think their real as much as the NPC's Caine makes are. If anyone knew this of course, it would entirely change how they veiw Jax entirely.
I think that Jax is either a hacker or developer. He has the keys. He is the quickest to act. The void in the background means he can exit the circus. Caine barely stopped Pomni from escaping. In either the pilot or episode 1 with the line, "can't let you find the spoilers." I sort of believe that Pomni herself is the NPC. The Digital Circus, sort of gives it away. The previous clown is the older version. An outdated NPC, if you would. No one else, no clips, except Pomni. She has no memories of anyone's faces. The audience hasn't been shown any. Making her talk to Gummi have a different meaning/twist. No hints as to what her job was before putting on the headset. On a separate note. I think this newest episode gives us a hint of what Zooble base appearance is. The room full of heads there is one thatis very different. It is a hand, a single eye, a triangle, and a stick/chain. Her avatar is based on art. A painting program. The art icon changes depending on what action to paint.
Jaxx is definitely akin to a trolling hacker, as he is always gaining access to door keys, and is apparently not even supposed to. For example, in episode 1, he has a key to Kaufmo's room. Ragatha says he shouldn't have access to anyone's room. He responds by saying he has keys to all sorts of places. Which is way more vague than just people's bedrooms. Where else has he gone? In episode 2, he manages to swipe the Candy Kingdom gate key from Ragatha without it ever happening onscreen. Meaning he can seemingly yoink and manifest keys from a distance. This is indicative of a hacker and boundary breaker. Always finding keys, backdoors, and exploits. Now, is he like, a foil NPC? I don't know. Part of me thinks no. But the other part finds a rogue character very intriguing, but . . . also . . . kind of an overdone concept as well. I like to think he is human, and has gained a sort of control over the simulation. It seems like he's totally content with where he is at. Because he does have almost ultimate control. If he was a chronically online person beforehand, then maybe that's why he acts so inhuman, and doesn't sleep. He was a young adult sweat gamer spending all nighters, barely getting healthy levels of sleep, and he was probably a Rust player too. With all that in mind, it makes sense for him to be not at all nonplussed by the idea of living out all of eternity in a digital purgatory. That was literally his life before the circus. Now he can just keep doing that without his body crapping out from malnutrition or sleep deprivation.
I think Jax is just one of those kinds of players who sees it as well, a game. And doesn't care about any of the consequences, as long as he finds it entertaining. Usually involving other people's suffering. He's the type of player to abuse a glitch to piss off other players and laugh at their reactions.
Yeah. Way more than an he does an NPC vibes. Hacker all the way. If he's an NPC, then I'm disappointment. And yes, I wrote it like that on purpose, for the less intelligent people out there.
There are some hints that suggest Jax might be a hacker (or a game dev). He can make keys appear in his pockets even when they are in the pockets of other people (Ragatha lost the key to him somehow). He can ignore gravity and while played for comedic effect, he does seem to have high speed. He blackmails similar to how some hackers do. His merch even mentions its creators having pictures of their family sent to them in the mail because they didn't want to make the merch (some hackers send pictures of people's family as blackmail or threat). He seems to know information about Ragatha (her only fear of centipedes) and Gangle (her typical submissive behavior, and the "figurine thing"). If he knows the purpose of the Circus, he might be trying to entertain the audience he knows the Circus is for. Though it's odd that the others don't seem to know there is an audience or that the thing is even a game or show (although Kinger mentioning the game show could be more than just a reference to Gooseworx's other animation). Jax might have even had a hand in creating the Circus alongside Kinger and Queenie. Might be their son. There are also hints in favor of him being an NPC (not swearing, addressing an audience, not showing his room or his breath-holding special effect), but some things don't quite fit the NPC situation. Goose gave him an age (22 years) and said that he did not take it well when he appeared in the Circus. She could have lied or omitted some information there, and he could just have been created 22 years ago and not take it well because he learned he's an NPC. The guy loves to terrorize NPCs mainly, while going a bit easier on the humans. You'd think he'd empathize with the NPCs more if he is one. And yet at times he seems to have at least some feelings of sadness for Kaufmo, and also Kinger (ep 1 when he says Kinger is crazy and barely can laugh, ep 3 when he seems to kind of doubt Kinger's mind is back). Up until Gummigoo, Caine apparently used to make NPCs that were less immersive (maybe at most Gloink Queen levels). Jax seems just as human as Gummigoo if not more, so how come he is at that level of human behavior even though he was made at least a few years ago?
@LugiDergX cutting off the airflow is different than forcefully limiting the amount of air that goes into your body, if i started to choke you and then proceeded to tell you that you were holding your breath and could start breathing again at any time, that would be a false statement.
I think being a hacker makes sense, hes able to break the fourth all, defy physics, have access to thinks he's not supposed too, etc. He was also genuinely sad about kafmo which makes him seem more human. Theres aslo theories that they all are associated with the game. If they were then being a hacker would make since for the way he acts. Not to mention goose made a comment saying they were all humans souls trapped
I truly believe Jax is the only character that I actually can exit the digital circus whenever he wants. Being a hacker makes sense but it might be a deeper then that. He might work for the company that made this etc, or stole one of the products from the company and reverse engineered it knowing how it works inside and out so he won't get trapped etc. He has items that he shouldn't even have. like who he had ragatha's room key. jax said he has keys to everyone's room or or how he just knows everyone's biggest fear and other info about them. but how, that's some moderator or administrator like power. You can't access a private room but he can. The only thing we know about Jax's is that he gets sad that the people he know in the Circus abstracted and he has no power to help them and would rather just brush it off. After all, he can can only help himself. Can't wait until we get his side of the story hopefully in the next episode. So that we can put it into all the speculation as he is the most interesting out of all the characters because there's so much mystery
I feel like the way Jax acts is too immersive, he clearly has a coping mechanism of disassociating and it just feels weird to think an ai like that would be able to pass as fully human for that long, I don’t know it just makes less sense the more I think about it.
I stand firm in my belief that he's a child. He's Peter Pan and the circus is his Neverland. Coincidently, Tale Foundry's recently put out a video discussing the cruelty of Peter Pan that kind of accentuates this idea. The quote they chose "It was his cleverness that interested him, and not the saving of human life. Also he was fond of variety, and the sport that engrossed him one moment would suddenly cease to engage him, so there was always the possibility that the next time you fell he would let you go." sounds exactly like Jax among other things in the video. Like I said in the earlier poll, Jax being from a newer generation that grew up with more complex games would make him accustomed to messing around with and abusing npcs and if he's a child he probably wouldn't be mature enough to be considerate of people who are essentially complex ai. It would also put him in the perfect position to realize this about the circus in the first place because he'd be the only one who hadn't grown or matured when entering the game and when that doesn't happen like it's supposed to, because the system doesn't allow it, he'd realize something is wrong, whereas the others had already grown and it would take many more years to notice for them.
i think if jax was an npc, at least one person in the group would know this and have spoken on it already. plus, personally, i would find his character less interesting if he was an npc because i enjoy seeing flawed humans in shows. the idea that he's a hacker is really interesting though
You do know that the theory that jax or ANY of the main cast aren't humans was debunked right? Gooseworks officially stated that they are in fact all human
Simple possible counter to the idea that Jax has a bedroom- maybe Jax WAS a real human character, but some kind of minigame involved an NPC doppelgänger puzzle where they had to figure out who the real Jax was, and they guessed wrong, leading the original to be deleted, and the NPC taking his place. Or, perhaps Caine ACCIDENTALLY deleted Jax in an unrelated event (but is aware that he did so), and created THIS Jax to fill in and make sure nobody realized what he did. Either of these connect further to the ominous comment about getting NPCs and players mixed up, AND resolve the issue about his bedroom existing.
Imagen he's keeping the exit in his room hidden so theyre all stuck in the game sense if the game ends or gets turned off he stops existing sense he's not a person
I think Jax is a hacker because Gooseworx said that all characters like Gangle, Pomni, Kinger, pretty much the whole cast are real souls trapped in the game.
i wouldnt be surprised if jax has more stuff going on considering theres 5 more episodes and 4 more characters to lore dump on, but i just think every character is just a different way of coping mentally (or just mental state). like ragatha helps others while she herself isnt doing well (shes a ragdoll), zooble just dismisses everything (unrelated but her identity, gender and other crisis' are shown through her design revealed in ep 3), gangle is just putting a (literal) mask on to hide her instability, kinger is just insane and lets go, pomni is new so is just scared and detriorating and hasnt really found a way to cope except with help of others, while jax lashes out at others to try to forget the situation hes in (or because hes scared idk but theres definitely a reason) as its shown jax HAS some heart as seen with the split second before eye rolling kaufmos funeral and other stuff or wanting zooble to come with to mess with the ai its just he torments others to forget whats hes wound up in. could be wrong, just doesnt seem that his visibly different chaotic evil personality means anything, considering all the character have different ones, his is just most notable when watching.
This theory definitely explains a LOT of what we've seen so far, and I think it's pretty logical to assume that Jax might not be from the circus. The only thing that throws off the NPC theory is one of Gooseworx’s recent Tumblr posts, where they confirmed that the main cast (except Caine and Bubble) are all 'trapped human souls.' I find the wording to be a bit strange, but at the very least, it confirms Jax is human.
these 'rebellious/nonconformist' NPC theories are fun, but why is it that "he deliberately makes himself seem rude, and is ABLE to either teach the players the potential of the circus or force them to play the adventures (unlike Caine)" not so popular? this has nothing to do with me wanting to see him "actually good", we can list every move he makes and discuss it. examples from 1. : Even though he spoke as if he was bored, as was his character, he cared about the intro sequence. Instead of telling Pomni about all the negative aspects of the circus or existential crises, he jokingly brought her back to her senses when Ragata was too hard on her while explaining the Circus. In Cosmo's room, he borrowed the ball back as if nothing was wrong so that Cosmo wouldn't get excited/angry (this shows that Jax recently had an interaction that resulted in him giving Cosmo a 'gift' while the others didn't notice Cosmo's concerns) and ran straight to the center of the circus (where the adventure and the hole are); without seeing Ragata being attacked, contrary to what the video says. he pushed them into the hole, further into the adventure, so that the others wouldn't have to see or even fight Cosmo. I also forgot to mention that Jax breaks Gangle's mask at the beginning of each adventure so that she can "be herself, so that she doesn't feel pressured to keep up her 'grin mask' in front of others". Despite Kinger and Gangle's talk about "eating is unnecessary", he sets an example for every player, especially Pomni, that "award food" is something that brings happiness, hope and appetite! if anyone wants, I can talk about other episodes too. BONUS: Caine has bright skin but dark RED top & BLACK bottom. Jax has pale skin but light RED bottom & PURPLE top. I originally thought he was meant to be the absolute opposite of ragatta since I first saw him (still do) but I wouldn't be surprised if Jax turned out to be related to Abel (from a popular theory).
another point to add to this theory is goosework said Jax is the only one who deserves to be there! What if that just means he belongs there as in he is from there?
Honestly Jax having a door isn't a good argument against him not being a NPC, because of one major thing, Caine's adventures. All it would theoretically have taken for there to be a door that looks like 'Jax' is an adventure with a 'shape shifter' or 'evil clones', where a NPC mimic that currently looks like 'Jax' got mistaken for the original, and got brought back in the originals place, while the original got destroyed/deleted/archived along with the adventure zone.
@@CartoonUniverse Gooseworx also said that Jax is the one who deserves the most to be trapped in the circus and is 22 years old, Caine is ageless because he is an AI
Caine is not ageless because he is an AI, he is just an AI that was made without reference to age. Gumigoo is an NP and has an age. You can also deserve to be trapped somewhere while being an NPC, that doesn't really prove anything.
Jax having a room is all the proof you need to know that Jax is not an NPC. The room is created when the player joins. Sure, you could argue he asked Caine for a room, but Caine would not be capable of forgetting Jax is an NPC if he didn’t have a room. I would instead like to argue the line of forgetting the NPC is referring to Queenie, an NPC created for Kinger - given a room upon creation so Kinger does not know his wife is fake. “But she abstracted” it is never stated nor even implied NPCs can’t abstract. The only NPC we’ve ever seen gain sentience in the show was both immediately helped through his stress by Pomni and not sentient long enough to abstract. Jax does not exist for any one player, but rather, exists to bully other players and NPCs in the process. Therefore, I propose that Jax is a troll. He joined the game just to mess with other players, and upon finding out he couldn’t leave, has coped with more trolling
I honestly feel like Jax only acts the way he does to keep his mind off of whatever could be wrong. Like he’s only pretending to be a jerk. I think the funeral scene with him is evidence to this, as he looks upset for a second before shrugging it off and leaving. Similar to the scene where he says he’s “so unbelievably disappointed”. He doesn’t act like his usual “cheerful” self. He actually looks upset. I also feel like he’s doing it with the same cause as the adventures, to prevent everyone from abstracting. He may have ran off from Ragatha and Pomni, but he went straight to Kinger and Gangle. He even looked back to make sure Kaufmo hadn’t followed him. He only lied to them so they wouldn’t worry-given the fact that they are the more sensitive characters. You can also say that he tries to get Zooble to go on the adventure with them in episode 2 after Caine says that the AI is more immersive. You could also say that when he refuses to show the other characters what happens when he holds his breath and says he wants to keep the mystery alive could be a part of this, the mystery of that could keep them guessing-which could give them something to do if they are near they’re breaking point or something. Not sure if there’s more evidence to this, but I’m not going to rewatch 3 episodes just for one comment. With all of that, it’s safe to say that Jax cares about the other characters and doesn’t want anyone to abstract.
If Jax *were* an NPC, I think Caine knows. Jax does a LOT to make the other characters engage with him and others; which prevents them from falling into melancholy and abstracting. And they all run the adventures properly so Jax doesn't ruin them. He's one of the biggest driving force personalities, and that fuels Caine's goals. That said, I don't think he's an NPC. He just acts the way he does because it gives him a sense of control.
The only strong credence I personally feel regarding the NPC theory, is that Jax’s room logo looks like he had round pupils (but the point of the square may just be cut off). I like the idea that he is an NPC duplicate of the original Jax who was accidentally deleted, and NPC Jax has the “soul” of a human he’s replacing and knows he can never leave the game which is why he’s so cruel and jaded.
i've started to think that the circus itself is there to help people with fixing their issues and, to be fair, it seems that every player's appearance has a meaning, except for Jax's. Also, the thing that happens when the players hold their breath for too long (i.e. they feel like dying) is nearly tailored for their issues Kinger, if the theory about him creating the place is correct, probably had a superiority complex alongside his wife. However he can only be himself in the dark and, if he holds his breath, he glows making it impossible to BE in the dark. Ragatha is a ragdoll and is very shy and quiet to a fault, maybe she was a spine-less "yes woman" that never spoke up. When she holds her breath her hair sticks up, which contrasts her more meek and slouched demeanor. Gangle is wearing a happy mask (and ONLY a happy mask) you never see her taking off the sad one, meaning that's her real face and that she was probably faking happiness in the real world. Holding her breath makes her mask spin, potentially causing the "happy" mask to fall off. Zooble is obviously not happy with her body and her avatar is just a mess of mismatched limbs. Holding her breath causes her limbs to stick out, making her body even more uncomfortable. Pomni is a jester so i'm guessing she acted like the "class clown" to fit in. holding her breath makes her face cycle colors faster and faster, attracting more attention to herself. Jax, so far...is odd. he is not too different from the others but his design is too simple, like he was an early draft or something. he really DOES seem like an NPC
crap i just realized something: Jax is a RABBIT! The single LEAST threatening thing in the world! Not only that, he is wearing a fake smile that rarely gets broken and, when it does, he shows his real teeth, which are sharp like a saw's. Yeah, he is probably an hacker or someone REALLY evil that pretends to be good
I dont think hes an NPC That feels REAAAALLY obvious, Too obvious even, but also like.. How the bloody hell would an NPC break the 4th wall and know where is an audience? Goomigoo didn't do that after HE became self aware. Hes broken the 4th wall multiple times and gotten weird reactions from the other characters proving its not just a silly joke but will be important later. Him being a hacker would explain that in my opinion.
I feel like Caine’s line of mixing up a human with an NPC is not hinting that one of the characters is an NPC, but that he’s killed a human before believing they were an NPC
Tbh when Caine was like "who knows what could happen", I just interpreted it as his usual weirdness and didn't really think it was hinting at anything.
@@Ventriloquism I really hope it does hint at something, seems very weird to leave out such a huge plot points, NPCs being able to become self aware and sentient and potentially Cain killing a human.
He can’t get rid of abstractions tho so how
I think there is more proof that he can't kill the players or real caracters becuse if he culd why wuld he put abstracted people in the celler why not yust kill them unles he can't
@@chaosgamer016_5 coz I believe he did kill someone in the past and learned from that, and has been careful since then, putting the abstacted ones to that cellar as his way to remind himself or something. Or probably he's collecting the abstracted ones, hoping to learn to fix them in the future.
nah i think hes a troll because Jax is that type of person to join a lobby just to mess with people and leave
Commenting here so people see this more.
If Jax is a hacker, would he be the only human in the digital circus to accept getting his real life taken? because he may not be able to leave on his will, and since he got where the audience was, he probably got into the digital circus' engine before and maybe learned to enable transparent objects to be seen by his client side.
Jax is a killer type of gamer.
@@TelaDevhe probably hasn’t excepted it but has made the best of his situation. Heck him being a jerk may be his way of dealing with everything.
@@TelaDev how did he know what?
Actually I think he is balding? Didn't you see last episode... the bald spot was crazy
I think Jax is just some ordinary jerk convinced he's stuck in a TV show. There's something cosmically horrifying about that thought.
You never know, he might think he's the main character and think everyone else is just a plaything for him
Either that or his cooping mechanism for being stuck in the Digital circus is letting his torment out on others...
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@@Digicara64no, I think he acts more like Gwenpool. If I remember correctly, Gwenpool knew she was in a comic book when she first got to the Marvel universe and she killed people because she didn’t see any consequences as she didn’t see them as real.
He is just mad because he is balding
He forgot his anti schizophrenia pills.
Considering Jax is listed as one of the only characters who deserves to be trapped in circus, I say he is a hacker. It fits with him having keys to everyone's bedroom and how he was able to steal the key from Ragatha without her noticing.
“Who deserves to be trapped.” So all the people trapped are there as punishment for something?
@@lynashmcmash4427 partly, yes
He is also listed as one of the only characters who suffers from severe balding!
The Fudge claiming Jax as the "Master of Unlocking Things" made me think maybe Jax knew something about the Circus that no one else knows or has access to. Does Kinger know anything about what Jax is doing? Possibly. He just can't call him out on it in the open.
Remember jax's said to ragatha that he has a key to everyone's room
We actually saw in the pilot that jax gets strangled by zooble when he holds his breath his teeth sharpen and his pupils change shape
might use that in a short
@@CartoonUniverse UwU
That's probably cuz he was distressed, not cuz he was holding his breath
The same thing also happened when he laughed at Pomni for getting spooked by his jumpscare, so it’s not linked to his breath, it’s just something that happens on occasion when whatever he’s expressing is more intense than his usual demeanour ^^
but when you laugh you can suffocate
I’m just gonna throw out an absolutely wild thought here … what if Bubble is a human? But Caine was so convinced that they were an NPC, that he accidentally placed NPC restrictions on Bubble, and this is what caused Caine so much trauma about sometimes being unable to differentiate between Humans and NPCs. He digitally paralyzed a Human.
Better being a bubble than bald. Jax's balding issue has really been getting out of hand
So, I did a little deep dive on Gooseworx's tumblr recently, and someone asked this exact question. Her response was "Bubble is an NPC."
I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think Bubble was human ever
@@Em_Cee669 ah I see, thanks for the info! I’m still very suspicious of Bubble … I don’t know if this was a complete coincidence or not but … in Episode 3, we encounter God’s Angel, and are told it’s only one of them, and in Episode 1, Bubble eats the Angel Cake that Caine was offering to Pomni … like I said, I don’t know if this was simply a mere coincidence or if there was actually a deeper meaning to it, but I’m pretty sure I’m forever suspicious of Bubble now XD
This.. Doesn't make _any_ sense whatsoever.
@@Em_Cee669 Personally, I fail to see even that (where they are coming from). Any explanations for how this theory would make any semblance of sense? Because I'm quite curious about that.
The hacker theory is interesting considering we recently learned that Kinger learned computer science for 7 years… and in a previous episode Jax says, “since when were you an expert on the digital world?” As if he is not aware of Kinger’s tech experience
Jax could only wish his bald spot could be hacked away....
Or mabye the group part of game development
That’s a misquote, he actually says “since when were you an expert on the digital world?”
@@distantmaniacallaughter8690 thanks. I was quoting from memory
I think Jax just has what people call "Toonforce". Everyone in the Circus have their own powers or gimmicks (Ragatha is immune to most damage since she's a doll, Gangle's mood depends on her mask, Zooble has their interchangeable pieces, Kinger has his floating eyes and hands and Pomni has a rubber-like body) So since Jax is meant to be a Bugs Bunny-like character it makes sense for him to have all of these cartoon character powers, for example, during the first episode Jax probably got Kaufmo's keys out of nowhere, this is how this type of character works, they can do whatever they want if it's convenient. If Jax truly is so powerful he wouldn't have been tied up so easily during the third episode. If this Theory happens to be true it will mean Jax isn't some sort of hacker, virus or NPC, just a lucky player who got some really OP powers.
This is my headcannon now
So he stayed tied up because it was way funnier then if he was able to escape
make this the top comment
Toonforce explains why he breaks the 4th wall
he also got balding as a side effect.. interesting :o
FUN FACT :
1st, Jax by Gooseworx herself describes him as a troubled person and that is what makes him Jax, 2nd it was also said that he’s scared of / hates corn cause he’s reminded of either working or living on a farm, 3rd He also got to Choose his own name and gangle which wouldn’t make sense if he’s an NPC ,because that means he didn’t have a name before the adventure, and also merch can be deceiving or misleading with designs .
Good I'm going to use some corn to haunt that zesty looking twink furry fnaf Bonnie wannabe with those unbrushed yellow teeth. Ragatha was so cool in ep 3 now I also want to see Gangle getting revenge as well.
Make me wonder if Goosework’s statement about him “deserving to be in the circus the most” can be taken in by a more literal meaning. He belongs there because he’s from there.
huh, didn't expect to find you here, also I've gotten into this channel though the "What if They were in smash?" stuff, so uh, maybeee start doing that again if ya can, Sorry if there's a reason for why it stopped that I never bothered to listen to, so you can ignore this if that's the case, but if not, well, it'd be nice to see that series return, :)
Dam look who we got here. Need to rewatch the smash series again, such a good series =D
I was considering this too! Not sure I believe the theory, but I definitely agree that quote could support the theory too, rather than debunk it.
Who knows. Anything is possible for now. Nice theory though, it's interesting to think about.
I prefer the theory of Jax being a hacker, as this can be applied to his character, leading to his interesting and possible degenerate schemes of storylines for his character's impact on the show.
Maybe inside his room he CAN leave the circus, and he does, only to come back later everyday.
Not telling anyone, because it's funny to mess with them like this.
"Jax is listed as one of the only characters who deserves to be trapped in circus"
You could deserve a punishment, and not receive it (:
Third option, Jax was part of the development team and he's the reason people get stuck there.
Fourth option, Jax is a copy of a person, not fully human, but still considered as a player character.
Fifth Option? He is balding and in denial....
Not only do I believe Jax is a hacker, I believe hes not actually trapped in the circus, he can leave at any time through his door. I also have a small sub theory that his fourth wall breaks is because he's livestreaming everything to an audience in the real world, and he's addressing the viewers. It may also explain why he constantly goes for the more chaotic option; it makes for an entertaining show, and Jax needs the validation of his viewers, people who actually matter to him.
yo thats sounds nightmarish and devilish... it suits Jax lol
I think the reason Jax became obsessed with keys is he probably is looking for the admin quarters so he can reconfigure the game to his liking...he actually wants to use the tech to live his fantasy but can't and maybe his five letter name is Ghaxs
jacks?????? duh????
What’s a ghaxs?
@@greygaston1263 game haxs I think?
@@Jamfrog35 of ok.
Well game hacks is obvious but the 5 letter naming is the most important clue 🗝️
I really don't believe Jax is an NPC, I theorized that he's a playtester who knows everything about the Digital Circus which let's him do all the suspicious stuffs
@SuperWiiBros08 I agree with you, tough i don't think he is a play tester, since this minda clashes with the theory of kinger making the game (wich I think could be real) since kinger entered before Jax, so it would be a bit late for playtesting, tough i do believe he played the game a lot before getting stuck in it, and maybe hes a also hacker or something.
Or that hes a playtester and while all his memories were erased, his skills allowef him to study the game. Through a lack of memory, what was supposed to be his mission (playtest) and his character got jumbled. He now just has a vague sense of not ever interacting with amything in the *intended* way.
More proof that he may be a hacker is the fact that for some reason he has spare keys to everybody's room. This is weird because why would multiple keys be produced when the room is just for one person? and where would he have got these keys from?
That's the determination of a severely bald rabbit for you!
goose did say that he deserves to be there more than anyone else, and since he's only 22, him making this 90s video game wouldn't make any sense. him being some jerky hacker who fucked around and found out makes a lot of sense for how he acts.
@@jestphoenix Remember when he said "Supposedly Kinger has been here the longest"
What if Jax has been there the longest and the reason we don't see his room is because it would be a dead giveaway to his age when he showed up in the circus.
@RobbyTheRogue the thing is that kinger is not only the oldest, but also has a master's degree in computer science. they're hinting pretty heavily that he is the "Abel" of the circus and was directly involved in the development. i believe jax has been in the circus for a good few years at this point, but definitely not longer than kinger. him being in there the longest seems like something he'd take the opportunity to brag about and hold over the others' heads at every opportunity. he's got more access to the circus than our other characters, but that lends moreso to the hacker theory (he's literally cheating the system) than lying about something that would make another person look superior to him.
@@jestphoenix Unless he's been there long enough to figure out how to get around and would be self conscious about telling others he's been stuck there longer then them.
I prefer the Hacker Theory, but expecting the NPC Theory. Either way, he's one of my favourites.
I think the balding theory is much more accurate
Jax is my fave too
Ok, as we've seen, Gummygoo and the other episode 2 NPCs had their models loaded outside the map, like our IRL NPCs.
Which means that if Jax is an NPC then we should have his model loaded somewhere in the circus, so, if Jax managed to manipulate/hack that empty room, I think this gives us 3 possibilities for Jax's room:
1- A portal leading to Jax's original world where he escaped from to act like another human in the Digital Circus.
2- There is nothing behind the door, just the inmense void that covers the entire Circus.
3- His room is just a small locker with his model inside, always loading, letting Jax stay in the Circus just like that.
4- A room filled with remedies for balding?
A Fourth Possibility is that Jax hijacked an Existing Player's Room after they had Abstracted, and transposed his image on the Door to convince others he was another Player. If Kinger is the only Player still present now to know this, then he'd know exactly how Dangerous Jax is, and hides the truth for his own Safety...
I can see him being more of a hacker then an actual player
A hacker makes more sense
One thing is for sure, his bald spot has really become noticeable in recent episodes...
My theory is that Jax will be revealed as an npc in episode 5.
So gooseworks has revealed that evil versions of the characters will be a part of episode 5, and I think that it’s an adventure that Cain has done before. My idea is that the original Jax went on that adventure hence why he has a door, but I think that the npc evil Jax replaced or tricked the original Jax, and that Caine deleted him. That’s why he has a door but I don’t think he can actually open it
Woah that’s actually a really good theory!
Idk, I think Jax secretly being bald is more likely. All the clues point to it
THAT'S ACTUALLY GENIUS!!
I think this actually works out. In Ep.2 Ragatha/Zooble (I forgot which one) comforts Pomni after Gumigoo is poofed saying "I heard Caine likes to reuse NPC's sometimes."
We might just get good Jax back. Could be true? Could be false. Who knows?
@@lookawilduser Honestly having a "real" Jax and a fake Jax is an interesting concept.
I think Jax has an embarrassing secret, and he finds holding his breath embarrassing as well. He would loose his power if he showed people.
This has actually been confirmed! He canonically has a severe balding issue, so he frequently covers himself in purple glue and fake fur to compensate. :o When he holds his breath all of it pops right off so it is a bit traumatizing for him!
I never bought the NPC theory, but I'm liking the hacker idea and makes more sense for his character.
I remember in one post Gooseworx said that "Jax deserves to be in the circus". This could go 2 possible ways:
- Jax is an npc and there would be real danger if an npc gains sapience and somehow effects the circus and the real world.
- Jax is a human who was a bully or sociopath in the real world and the circus keeps his dangerous tendencies contained.
He wanted to escape his real life balding so badly he went to virtual reality.... only for his balding to follow him there too.
He is the only character who is symmetrical
Edit: I think Jax's nihilistic antics are his coping mechanism and have fully embraced a 'consequence free' attitude as some would in a normal video game.
I think it’s more about him constantly losing people in the circus. The main two people he’s watching over is Kinger and gangle.
Two things, firstly, I think deep in the box is better, secondly addressing an imaginary audience is a thing I (and a few people I know who did theater) do as a bit in real life, Jax acts like he did theater if you know what I mean, so there is that. I think there’s something up with him but I don’t know if that’s hinting to it, I don’t remember if any other npcs address the audience but I don’t think they do
Something up with him? He's been desperately trying to hide his bald spot!!! If you look in the background art you can see him constantly trying to hide it with purple glue and fake hair
Goose's biggest inspirations (besides I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream), is Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure. Jax is heavily inspired by Andy, who she managed to get Michael Kovach to voice just by asking for an impression of the character. That's why he acts like he's in theatre.
As for the NPC part, I feel like it's unlikely they have that much awareness, unless he's an NPC that found his way into The Void, and knows that there is more out there.
@@Em_Cee669 I think that Jax found something he shouldn't have access to and he's playing his game now with whatever goal he has..
I think that theory that Jax saw something in the Void is pretty interesting 👀
Ya know, there’s also a bit of a theme, here with the characters and the archetypes of gamers and gamer behavior types
Jax is the Troll/Hacker-The gamer who’s cheats and plays dirty and shows his true self and ideals with an avatar.
Pomni the first time player/Non-Gamer-The one who’s completely out of her depth and gets the most frustrated by everyone’s way of playing the game.
Zooble the Jaded Casual-The gamer who prefers to skip events and other players to play the game to simply play and experiment.
Gangle The shy casual follower- The gamer who plays a lot but is quite unskilled and avoids other players too.
Ragatha The rule follower-Similar to the First timer, but got most of the gist of gaming and the rules of the game and can’t stand Hackers/Trolls
Kinger The founder/The veteran-The one gamer who has the most experience when it comes to gaming and has developed a few games, but the players and developers demands and actions has driven him to a point of madness.
Love that design for jack cut, and i wonder if the way each persons breath changes has a reason? Like, why does kinger glow? Seems like it would actually be annoying for him, cause he can only be sane when he’s in the dark.
I mean as long as he doesn’t hold his breath in the dark it won’t be an issue
@@deepcut7788 yeah, it just seems kind of ironic.
@@Bubbasdumbscience Pretty sure that's the point
I think when Jax stops breathing all his fake hair falls out revealing his shiney wrinkley skin underneath! :o We saw it in some of the previous eastereggs so it makes sense
so where something to think, if the adventure is made for zooble, i have one question, HOW THE HECK WOULD SHE PASS THE HALL OF THE DAMNED ALONE? she needs to hold breath to escape hell right? but if jax saying is true, then zooble would stop right? did caine just made a impossible challange for zooble?
Goooseworx confirmed recently when replying to a question about this, that all the main characters, including Jax are people not npcs
I wouldn’t be surprised if Jax caused a glitch that corrupted Caine and the game itself, pretty much starting everything.
What if he's made to torture them along with being trapped in a dangerous game? Pomni says "He just wants to see me suffer." And who likes to see them suffer? Jax...
I believe she meant caine with that line.
@@bahesb2419 Honestly, I'm not sure about that. When Pomni talks about Caine, it's always questions ABOUT Caine to the others. Indicating she doesn't know much about Caine's motives. But "He wants me to suffer" is said in a very certain way. Also notice how she talks very certain about deserving to be in hell. AND all these lines are said in the dark. My theory? Just as Kinger, Pomni has clearer memories in the dark. She knows who wants her to suffer and why she deserves to be in hell. And if this theory is correct then Pomni has reasons not to tell Kinger about what she knows.
Or she meant Caine.
WELL yea, he's balding so its obvious why hes so mad. He is projecting his insecurity onto the haired characters.
She meant Caine
@@erossauro2427or could someone who want her in real life so he force or someway to wear headset
Something I want to bring up real quick is that I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream only has 5 humans being tortured whereas digital circus has 6. Not guaranteed, but depending on how closely related the two are it could mean someone in the digital circus crew is an imposter.
Jax being a hacker is a lot more plausible when you consider that he can perform actions that other characters are unable to do. A good example of this is how Jax can grab and throw the others while; in the pilot, we see Kinger unable to grab Zooble and having his hands ripped off.
I think he is a Hacker not a Npc
If Jax is a hacker, he must be a terrible person not to help out the group that's trapped in the digital circus
@@Golden-berry howd he do that, there is no exit that he knows of
I just clicked on it .now its ruined because I saw this immediately when it appeared
@@Golden-berry I mean, that does seem pretty in character
I agree. I mean, how else would he have had keys to everyone's rooms in Episode 1?
I feel more inclined to believe that Jax would be a hacker, instead of an npc. It would make even more sense because in the pilot he 'supposedly' has keys to every room, which could imply that he might be a hacker
So he belongs there most... I think he's neither... I think... He's a PIRATE...
*[insert pirates of the Caribbean music here]*
As in piracy? Likely!
Wealth, Fame, Power. Jax, the King of the Digital Circus, attained everything the reality had to offer. The words he uttered just before he left drove his friends to scavenge. "The exit? If you want it, you can have it! Find it! I left the entrance to the real world there!" And so, his friends started to scavenge in pursuit of freedom! The reality has truly entered a great era!
Well, we all know that “piracy is no party”
He is clearly balding, all evidence points to it
Something else I wanna add, in episode one after the adventure, Jax says, “So what? I can still be hungry.” Kinger points out the error in Jax’s logic, but this could show that Jax’s AI and programming functions differently than the players
I think balding for years has just drove him insane tbh
Bubble eats the cake ment for Pomni
What if Jax is actually the oldest person in the digital circus? and he kept this a secret by lying to everyone?
basically, maybe he's lived there so long that he's got tired of caring about anything and he just screws around now.
makes sense too because kinger wouldn't even remember.
I think Jax is an NPC BECAUSE he breaks the 4th wall. I think he was an Original NPC from when the game was first made and was intended for children and talks to the audience like how a point and click adventure game character wood. And he does these things subconsciously because its part of his programing. He also mentioned in episode 1 that they'd have to do the song all over again.
Would make a pretty neat backstory.
@@greygaston1263 Like he's the equivalent to Swipper from Dora the Explorer. But now he has many more people to play with. When he couldn't mess with people in the second episode he was angry that he couldn't hurt people. I think him joining the Human in the Circus may be whats causing people to extract.
No wonder he is balding so much... he looks like a mole rat in recent episodes.... I just wish he'd be more honest about his bald spots :/
For me, it's the best explanation for this theory
@@lockskelington314 makes sense.
What if he is a hacker and the reason he has his more ‘meta’ abilities is because the way he jacked into the game allowed him to retain more of himself. Maybe hes only stuck there because jerryrigging the game in such a way made it so if he tries to hack his way out, it might short circuit the discount hardware hes using.
The hacker theory would make more sense, like maybe he was hired to get dirt or data on the company and just accidentally got himself stuck and decided to be a total jerk to everyone and pretty distant, I dont think he'd be like a whistleblower but eh
Ok I thought this theory was dumb but 2:23 actually makes it make a lot of sense and could give reason to why jax acts the way he does
Bro hes just a dick head, have you been to school? If you have then you would know that people are just assholes
Jax reminds me of the kind of player who looks for exploits/glitches in a game. Either for beta testing, early access, or just fun. Not a hacker, but just someone who pushes the engine to its limits.
The first thing that tipped me off to Jax being an NPX was in the first episode when he asked Caine if Pomni was another one of "his humans or another NPC".
The deduction series brings to life the captivating tale of individuals thrust into a digital realm, where they take on new identities akin to non-player character (NPC)-like entities, yet they are far from being mere NPCs.
Among them, Jax shines brightly with his daring and self-assured demeanor, setting him apart from the typical NPC. His choices and interactions hint at a retained human consciousness and individuality, even within the confines of this virtual domain. Thus, Jax is no mere NPC; he is a human transformed into a digital persona.
Question to everyone:
Do you all think caine and jax truly can see us or do they just act like there is an audience watching them?
That is a interresting question actually,but considering the fact caine CANNONICALLY has acces to the internet,probably yes
There is no other explanation for it, Jax is trying to distract us from his purple bald spot on the back of his head. It's so obvious honestly..
@@ThePr0_0149 That's pretty neat. Let's hope they didn't see some of the "fanart" - That would make them abstract right away. Or get horny.
.. What's that? Oh, no no no, my dear. No. There is NOT an third option. There isn't one, just like there is no escape from the Circus ;)
I like the idea of Jax being a hacker. Like he hacked the game so he could have more fun with it, but one of the times when he played his hacked version, he ended up in the circus. On the surface he doesn’t care because know he can behave how he pleases, but maybe he views this as some type of punishment, especially when he goes back to his nonexistent room
If Jax was an NPC, then how would he know who Augustus Gloop is? Goose has mentioned that characters can remember parts of their lives and Jax clearly does when he said "we're one tanker away from getting Augustus Glooped!" He can only know about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory if he was a human.
Well,i don't think Charlie and the Chocolate factory is a REALLY important thing one would remember,so this begins the question how does he know about it?
My theory is that if he IS an NPC,he has a similar acces to information like caine(we saw caine connect to the internet all the way back in the pilot)
@@ThePr0_0149 It has literally been stated that Caine has NO canonical knowledge of the Internet
@@TheRealAxolotlAnimates then how is he connecting to the internet in the pilot?
@@ThePr0_0149 when does this happen exactly?
@@TheRealAxolotlAnimates while caine shows pomni the tent(his eyes turn blue and the subtitles say something about the internet,you can also hear old internet noises)
I think the manakin isn't a blank slate meant to be filled when a new "player" enters the world. In the new episode 3 at 1:03 you can see a manakin in the right hiding behind a wall, and then it slips away. I think that's an actual person but they're not involved with this crew for some reason. Maybe cause they don't have a face and mouth so they can't communicate. Maybe their personality is mimicking other people or something and that's why their character is like a blank slate.
There's only 1 problem with this theory and it's that the other characters would've known he's an npc but it seems like they know he's not an npc.
My take from Jax is that he might just have been a gamer streamer before the circus and to keep sane he treats everything like a game. Imagine if all he’s been doing was in the intention of speedrunning the games? Such as the way that in the second episode he is quick to get a weapon and get onto the truck to speedrun the candy canyon kingdom. Additionally he is the only one who takes the time to criticise the game for not being appealing to him, in the same way that a RUclipsr does, and unlike someone who wishes to survive.
0:28 *Phone Buzz*
1:13 again
As soon as I saw the whole Jax refusing to hold his breath, my first thought was "more evidence that he's an NPC"
Honestly I had this idea that not only is Jax an NPC, but there is a *real* Jax, who maybe got trapped in a prior adventure related to the players facing NPC reflections of themselves. Ragatha mentions how Caine likes to reuse things at the end of episode 2, so if enough new players have shown up between that adventure and Pomni's arrival, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that he might just decide to rerun that adventure since there's only a few players who actually went on it the first time.
I think even though it's confirmed that no character is an NPC if any character is, it would be Gangle. In the most recent episode (4), Zooble has a mask that looks like Gangle.
He's neither.
He just understands that ultimately he is doomed. That does things to a person. In this case he looks for ways to amuse himself before he too falls to abstraction. Absolutely nothing matters.
I’d like to point out that in glitch’s “digital circus but smol” video when all the characters are turinging into figurines when Jax is the last one he says “Oh there all gone? I didn’t even get to tell them-“ then he gets cut off
I feel like its possibly a combo of the two.
Perhaps an out of game hacker found out about the digital circus and hancked an NPC to get inside?
I think there’s some humanity in him. You can very briefly see jax upset when the other characters discuss hosting a funeral for kaufmo
I feel jax is a hacker/creator
The reason we can’t see his room is because it wasn’t developed. In video games whenever you have a house sometimes you never get to see the inside. I think this means jax is simply the player and whenever all the others go in their room he gets off the game.
Imagine him actually being able to get off the game while everyone sleeps hinting at why his room has the void behind it in the enamel pin merch.
It would make sense why Jax acts the way he does. He can just log off whenever he wants but needs to be strategic on when he does. (Like at night when people are asleep.)
So he acts like how sociopath would when playing videogames because he veiws the other PLAYERS as NPC's too. (Technically anyone but yourself in a game is an NPC. From Jax's perspective he is the player and say Ragatha, Gangle, Pomni, Kinger, as well as Zooble aren't him so they are considered NPC's in his eyes.
He might not think their real as much as the NPC's Caine makes are.
If anyone knew this of course, it would entirely change how they veiw Jax entirely.
I think that Jax is either a hacker or developer. He has the keys. He is the quickest to act. The void in the background means he can exit the circus. Caine barely stopped Pomni from escaping. In either the pilot or episode 1 with the line, "can't let you find the spoilers."
I sort of believe that Pomni herself is the NPC. The Digital Circus, sort of gives it away. The previous clown is the older version. An outdated NPC, if you would.
No one else, no clips, except Pomni. She has no memories of anyone's faces. The audience hasn't been shown any. Making her talk to Gummi have a different meaning/twist. No hints as to what her job was before putting on the headset.
On a separate note. I think this newest episode gives us a hint of what Zooble base appearance is. The room full of heads there is one thatis very different. It is a hand, a single eye, a triangle, and a stick/chain.
Her avatar is based on art. A painting program. The art icon changes depending on what action to paint.
Jaxx is definitely akin to a trolling hacker, as he is always gaining access to door keys, and is apparently not even supposed to. For example, in episode 1, he has a key to Kaufmo's room. Ragatha says he shouldn't have access to anyone's room. He responds by saying he has keys to all sorts of places. Which is way more vague than just people's bedrooms. Where else has he gone? In episode 2, he manages to swipe the Candy Kingdom gate key from Ragatha without it ever happening onscreen. Meaning he can seemingly yoink and manifest keys from a distance. This is indicative of a hacker and boundary breaker. Always finding keys, backdoors, and exploits.
Now, is he like, a foil NPC? I don't know. Part of me thinks no. But the other part finds a rogue character very intriguing, but . . . also . . . kind of an overdone concept as well. I like to think he is human, and has gained a sort of control over the simulation. It seems like he's totally content with where he is at. Because he does have almost ultimate control. If he was a chronically online person beforehand, then maybe that's why he acts so inhuman, and doesn't sleep. He was a young adult sweat gamer spending all nighters, barely getting healthy levels of sleep, and he was probably a Rust player too. With all that in mind, it makes sense for him to be not at all nonplussed by the idea of living out all of eternity in a digital purgatory. That was literally his life before the circus. Now he can just keep doing that without his body crapping out from malnutrition or sleep deprivation.
I think Jax is just one of those kinds of players who sees it as well, a game. And doesn't care about any of the consequences, as long as he finds it entertaining. Usually involving other people's suffering. He's the type of player to abuse a glitch to piss off other players and laugh at their reactions.
He just gives off total hacker vibes.
He really do.
Yeah. Way more than an he does an NPC vibes. Hacker all the way. If he's an NPC, then I'm disappointment. And yes, I wrote it like that on purpose, for the less intelligent people out there.
There are some hints that suggest Jax might be a hacker (or a game dev).
He can make keys appear in his pockets even when they are in the pockets of other people (Ragatha lost the key to him somehow).
He can ignore gravity and while played for comedic effect, he does seem to have high speed.
He blackmails similar to how some hackers do. His merch even mentions its creators having pictures of their family sent to them in the mail because they didn't want to make the merch (some hackers send pictures of people's family as blackmail or threat).
He seems to know information about Ragatha (her only fear of centipedes) and Gangle (her typical submissive behavior, and the "figurine thing").
If he knows the purpose of the Circus, he might be trying to entertain the audience he knows the Circus is for. Though it's odd that the others don't seem to know there is an audience or that the thing is even a game or show (although Kinger mentioning the game show could be more than just a reference to Gooseworx's other animation). Jax might have even had a hand in creating the Circus alongside Kinger and Queenie. Might be their son.
There are also hints in favor of him being an NPC (not swearing, addressing an audience, not showing his room or his breath-holding special effect), but some things don't quite fit the NPC situation.
Goose gave him an age (22 years) and said that he did not take it well when he appeared in the Circus. She could have lied or omitted some information there, and he could just have been created 22 years ago and not take it well because he learned he's an NPC.
The guy loves to terrorize NPCs mainly, while going a bit easier on the humans. You'd think he'd empathize with the NPCs more if he is one. And yet at times he seems to have at least some feelings of sadness for Kaufmo, and also Kinger (ep 1 when he says Kinger is crazy and barely can laugh, ep 3 when he seems to kind of doubt Kinger's mind is back).
Up until Gummigoo, Caine apparently used to make NPCs that were less immersive (maybe at most Gloink Queen levels). Jax seems just as human as Gummigoo if not more, so how come he is at that level of human behavior even though he was made at least a few years ago?
4:14 We already have an answer for what happens when he doesn’t breathe RIGHT HERE
I wanna know if we're gonna see jax getting traumatized by corn in the next ep
episode 3's entire thing is when they hold their breath, not when they can't breathe. there's a difference.
@@CloudMouth27 That and that's quite literally just not what happens.
@@DavenWaldenWenceslao The question ends up being, whether he is traumatized by corn.. or p0rn - of himself, no less ;)
@LugiDergX cutting off the airflow is different than forcefully limiting the amount of air that goes into your body, if i started to choke you and then proceeded to tell you that you were holding your breath and could start breathing again at any time, that would be a false statement.
I think being a hacker makes sense, hes able to break the fourth all, defy physics, have access to thinks he's not supposed too, etc. He was also genuinely sad about kafmo which makes him seem more human. Theres aslo theories that they all are associated with the game. If they were then being a hacker would make since for the way he acts. Not to mention goose made a comment saying they were all humans souls trapped
NPC? ❌
Hacker? ✔️
Goose has stated that all of the main cast are people trapped in the circus, so Jax cant be an NPC.
an NPC can still be trapped in the circus.
I believe he's going to be Lucifer with all of this biblical references
gooseworx has said that they put biblical references in to mess with theorists
@@helloworldd7151 that is funny
That would be the Candy Princess.
Lucifer if he was bald... ^^;; it is a nice theory but Jax is just dealing with some balding issues, resulting in outward aggression.
Maybe Judas too
The answer is yes.He's doing what he's programmed to do. He's a cartoon that has reality warping abilities when he's attempting to be funny
i think he’s just insane which drives him to be this careless and wanting to murder
I truly believe Jax is the only character that I actually can exit the digital circus whenever he wants. Being a hacker makes sense but it might be a deeper then that. He might work for the company that made this etc, or stole one of the products from the company and reverse engineered it knowing how it works inside and out so he won't get trapped etc. He has items that he shouldn't even have. like who he had ragatha's room key. jax said he has keys to everyone's room or or how he just knows everyone's biggest fear and other info about them. but how, that's some moderator or administrator like power. You can't access a private room but he can. The only thing we know about Jax's is that he gets sad that the people he know in the Circus abstracted and he has no power to help them and would rather just brush it off. After all, he can can only help himself. Can't wait until we get his side of the story hopefully in the next episode. So that we can put it into all the speculation as he is the most interesting out of all the characters because there's so much mystery
I feel like the way Jax acts is too immersive, he clearly has a coping mechanism of disassociating and it just feels weird to think an ai like that would be able to pass as fully human for that long, I don’t know it just makes less sense the more I think about it.
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I like how you say this when it's directly mention by jax and you literally see ragatha's room in the next clip you showed.
I stand firm in my belief that he's a child. He's Peter Pan and the circus is his Neverland. Coincidently, Tale Foundry's recently put out a video discussing the cruelty of Peter Pan that kind of accentuates this idea.
The quote they chose "It was his cleverness that interested him, and not the saving of human life. Also he was fond of variety, and the sport that engrossed him one moment would suddenly cease to engage him, so there was always the possibility that the next time you fell he would let you go." sounds exactly like Jax among other things in the video.
Like I said in the earlier poll, Jax being from a newer generation that grew up with more complex games would make him accustomed to messing around with and abusing npcs and if he's a child he probably wouldn't be mature enough to be considerate of people who are essentially complex ai.
It would also put him in the perfect position to realize this about the circus in the first place because he'd be the only one who hadn't grown or matured when entering the game and when that doesn't happen like it's supposed to, because the system doesn't allow it, he'd realize something is wrong, whereas the others had already grown and it would take many more years to notice for them.
i think if jax was an npc, at least one person in the group would know this and have spoken on it already. plus, personally, i would find his character less interesting if he was an npc because i enjoy seeing flawed humans in shows. the idea that he's a hacker is really interesting though
You do know that the theory that jax or ANY of the main cast aren't humans was debunked right? Gooseworks officially stated that they are in fact all human
I have not seen this
Simple possible counter to the idea that Jax has a bedroom- maybe Jax WAS a real human character, but some kind of minigame involved an NPC doppelgänger puzzle where they had to figure out who the real Jax was, and they guessed wrong, leading the original to be deleted, and the NPC taking his place. Or, perhaps Caine ACCIDENTALLY deleted Jax in an unrelated event (but is aware that he did so), and created THIS Jax to fill in and make sure nobody realized what he did.
Either of these connect further to the ominous comment about getting NPCs and players mixed up, AND resolve the issue about his bedroom existing.
Imagen he's keeping the exit in his room hidden so theyre all stuck in the game sense if the game ends or gets turned off he stops existing sense he's not a person
There is no working exit(caine tried to make one,but he couldn't get it to work)
@@ThePr0_0149 maybe he just forgot how sense his memory is booboo cheeks
@@Garbospace he forgot what?
@@ThePr0_0149 how to make the exit
@@Garbospace my theory is,he has unlimited control over the circus,but doesn't know everything
I think Jax is a hacker because Gooseworx said that all characters like Gangle, Pomni, Kinger, pretty much the whole cast are real souls trapped in the game.
look ath 1:26 you can see somting looking away behind the rainbows
i think thats a little mannequin npc! they look to silly
Your right, what is it?
And then goose debunked that he was an NPC
i wouldnt be surprised if jax has more stuff going on considering theres 5 more episodes and 4 more characters to lore dump on, but i just think every character is just a different way of coping mentally (or just mental state). like ragatha helps others while she herself isnt doing well (shes a ragdoll), zooble just dismisses everything (unrelated but her identity, gender and other crisis' are shown through her design revealed in ep 3), gangle is just putting a (literal) mask on to hide her instability, kinger is just insane and lets go, pomni is new so is just scared and detriorating and hasnt really found a way to cope except with help of others, while jax lashes out at others to try to forget the situation hes in (or because hes scared idk but theres definitely a reason) as its shown jax HAS some heart as seen with the split second before eye rolling kaufmos funeral and other stuff or wanting zooble to come with to mess with the ai its just he torments others to forget whats hes wound up in. could be wrong, just doesnt seem that his visibly different chaotic evil personality means anything, considering all the character have different ones, his is just most notable when watching.
Wait what?
This theory definitely explains a LOT of what we've seen so far, and I think it's pretty logical to assume that Jax might not be from the circus. The only thing that throws off the NPC theory is one of Gooseworx’s recent Tumblr posts, where they confirmed that the main cast (except Caine and Bubble) are all 'trapped human souls.' I find the wording to be a bit strange, but at the very least, it confirms Jax is human.
these 'rebellious/nonconformist' NPC theories are fun, but why is it that "he deliberately makes himself seem rude, and is ABLE to either teach the players the potential of the circus or force them to play the adventures (unlike Caine)" not so popular?
this has nothing to do with me wanting to see him "actually good", we can list every move he makes and discuss it.
examples from 1. :
Even though he spoke as if he was bored, as was his character, he cared about the intro sequence.
Instead of telling Pomni about all the negative aspects of the circus or existential crises, he jokingly brought her back to her senses when Ragata was too hard on her while explaining the Circus.
In Cosmo's room, he borrowed the ball back as if nothing was wrong so that Cosmo wouldn't get excited/angry (this shows that Jax recently had an interaction that resulted in him giving Cosmo a 'gift' while the others didn't notice Cosmo's concerns)
and ran straight to the center of the circus (where the adventure and the hole are); without seeing Ragata being attacked, contrary to what the video says.
he pushed them into the hole, further into the adventure, so that the others wouldn't have to see or even fight Cosmo.
I also forgot to mention that Jax breaks Gangle's mask at the beginning of each adventure so that she can "be herself, so that she doesn't feel pressured to keep up her 'grin mask' in front of others".
Despite Kinger and Gangle's talk about "eating is unnecessary", he sets an example for every player, especially Pomni, that "award food" is something that brings happiness, hope and appetite!
if anyone wants, I can talk about other episodes too.
BONUS:
Caine has bright skin but dark RED top & BLACK bottom.
Jax has pale skin but light RED bottom & PURPLE top.
I originally thought he was meant to be the absolute opposite of ragatta since I first saw him (still do) but I wouldn't be surprised if Jax turned out to be related to Abel (from a popular theory).
He is called kaufmo not COSMO
@@ThePr0_0149 I remembered it starts with a "K" but tough remembering wrong.
Plot twist... it's all a game and Jax is an irl gameplayer controlling an avatar
Jax was given a cannon human age so I highly doubt he is an npc
Same here
I think Jax is just aware of the fact that he’s in the game. He’s not addressing us he’s addressing the person playing the game
another point to add to this theory is goosework said Jax is the only one who deserves to be there! What if that just means he belongs there as in he is from there?
Honestly Jax having a door isn't a good argument against him not being a NPC, because of one major thing, Caine's adventures. All it would theoretically have taken for there to be a door that looks like 'Jax' is an adventure with a 'shape shifter' or 'evil clones', where a NPC mimic that currently looks like 'Jax' got mistaken for the original, and got brought back in the originals place, while the original got destroyed/deleted/archived along with the adventure zone.
I mean it's said in the description of the show "6 human souls" they wouldn't include Jax if he was not human.
Kaufmo ;)
@@CartoonUniverse Gooseworx also said that Jax is the one who deserves the most to be trapped in the circus and is 22 years old, Caine is ageless because he is an AI
Caine is not ageless because he is an AI, he is just an AI that was made without reference to age. Gumigoo is an NP and has an age. You can also deserve to be trapped somewhere while being an NPC, that doesn't really prove anything.
@@CartoonUniverse It also doesn't prove that he is an npc
I didn't claim it does, you brought it up as evidence saying it wasn't, and I showed why that is wrong.
Jax having a room is all the proof you need to know that Jax is not an NPC. The room is created when the player joins. Sure, you could argue he asked Caine for a room, but Caine would not be capable of forgetting Jax is an NPC if he didn’t have a room. I would instead like to argue the line of forgetting the NPC is referring to Queenie, an NPC created for Kinger - given a room upon creation so Kinger does not know his wife is fake. “But she abstracted” it is never stated nor even implied NPCs can’t abstract. The only NPC we’ve ever seen gain sentience in the show was both immediately helped through his stress by Pomni and not sentient long enough to abstract. Jax does not exist for any one player, but rather, exists to bully other players and NPCs in the process. Therefore, I propose that Jax is a troll. He joined the game just to mess with other players, and upon finding out he couldn’t leave, has coped with more trolling
Sometimes I feel Jax did something to Caine..if he is a hacker,he could mess with caine ai without anybody notice,and make Caine made a mistake,or not
If he’s an NPC, why didn’t the other players recognize him from the adventure? And how did he get his image onto the blank door?
There were MANY different humans in the circus than just the few we know...
Just look at all the abstracted people caine trapped in the pilot...
@@ThePr0_0149I think you commented on the wrong comment
@@mmnd8158 no,what i meant:jax might have been there,before anyone from the circus cast we know was even there
I honestly feel like Jax only acts the way he does to keep his mind off of whatever could be wrong. Like he’s only pretending to be a jerk. I think the funeral scene with him is evidence to this, as he looks upset for a second before shrugging it off and leaving. Similar to the scene where he says he’s “so unbelievably disappointed”. He doesn’t act like his usual “cheerful” self. He actually looks upset. I also feel like he’s doing it with the same cause as the adventures, to prevent everyone from abstracting. He may have ran off from Ragatha and Pomni, but he went straight to Kinger and Gangle. He even looked back to make sure Kaufmo hadn’t followed him. He only lied to them so they wouldn’t worry-given the fact that they are the more sensitive characters. You can also say that he tries to get Zooble to go on the adventure with them in episode 2 after Caine says that the AI is more immersive. You could also say that when he refuses to show the other characters what happens when he holds his breath and says he wants to keep the mystery alive could be a part of this, the mystery of that could keep them guessing-which could give them something to do if they are near they’re breaking point or something. Not sure if there’s more evidence to this, but I’m not going to rewatch 3 episodes just for one comment. With all of that, it’s safe to say that Jax cares about the other characters and doesn’t want anyone to abstract.
Gooseworx says Jax most deserves to be in TDC
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If Jax *were* an NPC, I think Caine knows. Jax does a LOT to make the other characters engage with him and others; which prevents them from falling into melancholy and abstracting. And they all run the adventures properly so Jax doesn't ruin them. He's one of the biggest driving force personalities, and that fuels Caine's goals.
That said, I don't think he's an NPC. He just acts the way he does because it gives him a sense of control.
I just noticed that Jax's pupils are square and his eyes are half a circle, while, everyone else is eyes and pupils have circles.
The only strong credence I personally feel regarding the NPC theory, is that Jax’s room logo looks like he had round pupils (but the point of the square may just be cut off). I like the idea that he is an NPC duplicate of the original Jax who was accidentally deleted, and NPC Jax has the “soul” of a human he’s replacing and knows he can never leave the game which is why he’s so cruel and jaded.
i've started to think that the circus itself is there to help people with fixing their issues and, to be fair, it seems that every player's appearance has a meaning, except for Jax's.
Also, the thing that happens when the players hold their breath for too long (i.e. they feel like dying) is nearly tailored for their issues
Kinger, if the theory about him creating the place is correct, probably had a superiority complex alongside his wife. However he can only be himself in the dark and, if he holds his breath, he glows making it impossible to BE in the dark.
Ragatha is a ragdoll and is very shy and quiet to a fault, maybe she was a spine-less "yes woman" that never spoke up. When she holds her breath her hair sticks up, which contrasts her more meek and slouched demeanor.
Gangle is wearing a happy mask (and ONLY a happy mask) you never see her taking off the sad one, meaning that's her real face and that she was probably faking happiness in the real world. Holding her breath makes her mask spin, potentially causing the "happy" mask to fall off.
Zooble is obviously not happy with her body and her avatar is just a mess of mismatched limbs. Holding her breath causes her limbs to stick out, making her body even more uncomfortable.
Pomni is a jester so i'm guessing she acted like the "class clown" to fit in. holding her breath makes her face cycle colors faster and faster, attracting more attention to herself.
Jax, so far...is odd. he is not too different from the others but his design is too simple, like he was an early draft or something. he really DOES seem like an NPC
crap i just realized something: Jax is a RABBIT! The single LEAST threatening thing in the world! Not only that, he is wearing a fake smile that rarely gets broken and, when it does, he shows his real teeth, which are sharp like a saw's.
Yeah, he is probably an hacker or someone REALLY evil that pretends to be good
I dont think hes an NPC
That feels REAAAALLY obvious, Too obvious even, but also like..
How the bloody hell would an NPC break the 4th wall and know where is an audience? Goomigoo didn't do that after HE became self aware. Hes broken the 4th wall multiple times and gotten weird reactions from the other characters proving its not just a silly joke but will be important later. Him being a hacker would explain that in my opinion.