I have had my td30kv since 2 months after they were released and can safely say I’ve never had any wear on the cymbals. Using new sticks definitely helps I always use a different pair for an acoustic kit than I would for the electric. Only wear and tear I have had really has been on the meshes but an easy replacement to do
I’ve watched your video several times I learned so much from your knowledge you shared. Thank you again for The countless hours you spent to educate cpeople who are interested in information about Drum modules! I’ve watched numerous tutorials about drum modules, and this video is by far The most information I’ve learned on the categories I lacked knowledge knowing. Looking forward to more videos in the future!
We set up a brand new Roland kv-30 with a double pedal and a huge monitor set up. Ive been playing over 35 years and have been on countless tours and studios, yes it is the best electronic kit. It was like playing the best sounding and best feeling kits every time you sat down on it. It never changed. I would make micro changes as far as mic placement and reverb adjustments and found I liked it dryer but it was endless to how well you can dial the sounds in. Its like no other electronic kit ive ever played. As a matter of a fact I didn't care for them and always you a couple pads for accent around my acoustic kit live. This kit is different. It is as serious as you are and as serious as you want to be.
First off, been following you guys for a long time, your videos are high quality and informative and I've watched them many times over and always seem to glean something new. Second, for anyone reading, the TD-30 is widely available online which is where I snagged mine up for 1300 dollars, and let me tell you, it was money well spent. My only beefs with the TD-30 is that the stock snare sounds are just totally bad outside of 2 samples (the maple snare is passable and the custom wood one is the best). The kick/toms/cymbals however are a ridiculously huge step up from the TD-9 and the TD- 20. The bad samples and in particular the snare is something that seems to really plague all but the highest end of electric drum modules, I've played the top of the line Alesis and Yamaha kits as well and was like, "wow these are somehow even worse then Roland's snare sounds" so it must just be a thing in the E-drum world and not exclusive to Roland. The video mentions the fact that you have to, "dig around" in the module a bit, I'm gonna say that to anyone that isn't really experienced using drum modules, "dig around" is an understatement. This things got features and setting adjustments for days and days and days. I was already used to low end modules owning the TD-15 before hand, and I had to watch numerous videos/read numerous forum articles/mess around and dig endlessly just to wrap my head around the basic editing power. I've had the module for 6 months I'm barely learning how to use the USB to it's full capability and it's opening up so many possibilities. All in all, go buy this thing, I've got my kit dialed in so smooth I'd stack it up against a 5,000$ acoustic kit with brand new heads any day.
Thank you for this excellent review. Its nice to see people appreciate good design. The DIY aspect of edrumming sometimes makes people complain about price. They dont take into account an engineers blood sweat and tears.
Great video: Love my TD-30KV! Finally a video that proudly promotes one of the finest edrum kits ever made. Well done! Here's an artifact of interest: The TD-30 module can also be MIDIed to an old Roland PM-16 Drum Pad Midi Interface which will expand your inputs to 16 more pads/triggers! I've used this interface and it has some very good features including MIDI layering. They go for under 100 USD on eBay, Amazon or Reverb.
This is a really interesting and informative video, I didn’t realize the differences between the pd100, pd105, pd125 and pd128 pads. I’m a current td30k user. I’m getting ready to upgrade to the td50dp. Looking forward to seeing more great videos...
Funny and informative in the same time. What an awesome review! I have to agree, the TD-30 is the best choice for triggering VST, though I haven’t yet tested the new digital snare & the TD-50.
Mike Luke Thank you! I know that some people use the TD-50 with SD3, but I think it is not needed. I am not sure if the Digital pads generated Midi notes are different from what the TD-30 does.
This is by far your best video! What a great job you did man! I am a DIY guy and you have given me sooo many ideas. I will own a TD-30 module someday. I got a TD-9 after your review of that. I think my TD-9 is going to make a super slave module. Thanks for doing these videos it really helps.
Joshua Ferry Thank You! I also had a TD-9 for 3 years before I upgraded. I did not rush and took my time until I found a good deal on the next best module. The TD-9 is not ideal as slave module because of the cable snake.
The TD-30 will be the new TD-10 imo, unless something drastically changed in vdrum technology, I could see this module being used 20 years from now. Td-10 came out in 97, and some people still using it for vst triggering. I had one as well, used it for vst triggering and just the module sounds only for my electronic music and it worked and sounded great. I sold it to another drummer who’s td-10 screen died and gave him friend price 140$
Really fantastic video. Have owned a set since 2014, and while it probably hasn't seen the volume (or talent) of play yours has, my cymbals haven't worn that badly. Only use new sticks on it.
Very accurate video. You mentioned you refurbished/cleaned this td-30 KV kit. Have you any tutorial video on how to properly clean, disassemble, service, assemble, etc. this kit? If so, please drop us a link if it is online.
Thanks so much for posting this video -- I learned a ton! Now I understand exactly how the triggering system on the 108/128 pads (which I play) differs from other Roland pads. I was particularly interested in your comment that Drum-Tec pads won't perform as well as a 128 since I'm interested in the Drum-Tec Pro 14" snare -- not because I'm displeased with the 128, but rather because of the bigger size. That said, if the Drum-Tec pad isn't going to trigger as well, or exhibit more hot-spotting, then I don't think I would go there (particularly given how expensive the DT pad is). I have to agree that the 128 has less hot-spotting compared to earlier Roland pads, and I have no desire to go backwards in that regard. Any additional insight you could provide in this regard would be most welcome. Thanks again!
Well that trigger technology is patented, so drum-tec cannot use it. Their pads however are good in another way, they reduce hottspotting trough a non stretchy mesh head that is tensioned. However, I believe the PD-128 does still perform a bit better. The drum-tech pads are still great though.
Use nylon tip drum sticks. That does the trick for me to help cymbals and the mesh heads last much longer. I even used them when I played acoustic drums in the past.
Vdrum Tips with all due respect not just the pads put the cymbals/hi-hat,response,also with the up to date,drum downloads,this kit is still a cut above the others !
Excellent review. I have had my TD-30KV for a few years now and learned some very valuable things that I didn't know from fiddling around with it myself. I love the set and have it maxed out on pad inputs now, thanks to deals found on ebay. I wish I had just 2 more aux inputs for cymbals so I wouldn't have to split a couple of triggers. No such thing as too many cymbals!
I have 2 pd100 and 2 pd120 as toms on my td17kvx. No rim triggers but I never notice any hot spotting?. Which is awesome. I have to use them as pd85x and pd105x pads in settings cuz the module doesn’t have these pads as a choice in pad setting. Could be happier.
Vdrum Tips yes I’ve seen that awesome video as well. I’d rather have splitters and use the rims as cy-5 splash and I just bought a cy-15 for a steal $100 from a local music store so I’ll make the cy13 into a 3rd crash.
Also would there be any possible way to get td11 snare samples and load them into my td17???? I’ve asked drum tec but no reply yet. That’s the only real issue I’m having is I can’t seem to get that thick tight in your face snare sound that I use to get from the td11 custom snare sample.
Curious if your still on here. Similar to my strike pro, when using direct out, seems all effects, eq, ambience and compression are gone, just the dry signal. I know most sound engineers in the clubs I play at don't have the time or interest in dialing these sounds in so feel like I need to send the LR to the FOH. Is this correct and is there a work around? In my experience, some of the ambience and compression cant be reproduced in a club mixing board? Figured, I could always send the LR of the full mix too and they could add some kick snare or toms etc but not pull sounds out?
I’m looking for in buy the TD 30 module to turn my kit into hybrid kit using VST software. I play live, so my question is will I need a interface to send it to a PA system?
If you are playing through a large system you will need a rack mount DI module, to turn the unbalanced outs of the module into balanced signals. I use a Berhinger 8 channel DI.
Wow what a great review! I had no idea about the differences of the triggers internal to the 128s pads as well as all of the features of the TD-30 vs the td-50. I have been look at the TD-50 module to replace my TD-20X but now I am seriously considering the TD-30 especially if I can transfer all of my kits I have built over the years. Thanks for the info and your channel. ~drumdog69~ a long time subscriber
I thought about purchasing a one but decided on the new TD27kv. But going to look at that MDS25 rack though...the rack that came with the TD27 seems tight...
You can do sound layering with a midi cable plugged into the in and out then use percussion sets to layer sounds. It’s a “hack” work around for the module. So wish this percussion set feature was on td-27 and Td-50 module. I really want to upgrade to td-27, however I have thought about the td-30 instead. The biggest downside is no sample import. I know I could use ableton live to load samples
In Nov 2017 I layed out 3700 Euro and bought what I thought was a TD30kv only to now recognise I got all Hardware from td20kv (125xs, 105x, 125x, VH12...) plus a td30 Module. I dont ask how stupid you think I am;-) I ask how bad was that deal really, as I cant seem to find many used td20 sets...
I was very interested in your statement that SD3 is optimized for the TD30 (which I play). I've watched a lot of different videos on the TD50, Mimic Pro, SD3, SSD and some other VST's. Some sound better than others but SD3 is the only one that makes me REALLY want to make a switch. It will likely be my next upgrade. I think the only reason I haven't done it is because I don't have the time to invest into digging in and learning the software (and it's obviously designed with the power user in mind). For now, sticking with my TD30 (though I'm definitely aware of its limitations, I'm not displeased with it) but it's good to have some more reassurance that the upgrade path should be relatively smooth. Thanks!
It depends on the user. The VST user does not need a Mimic, but the live drummer and the non-VST drummer, geeks, etc, should look into the mimic. It has a percussion set, many inputs and even some trigger adjustment settings that the TD-30 does not have. I am not a big fan of the touchscreen, but everything else is just great with the Pearl Mimic, most of all, the sounds.
I believe I can hear in the sound though of the highhats that the VH-13 seems to emulatue the sound when theyre close together (but not fully together yet) at a more realistic distance. But im just watching the video so maybe im wrong ^^ ... also if thats it its a very subtle difference ^^
Plugging the td30 to computer via usb (without mixer) is there a way to control the direct out volume? The recording picked up on my mac is extremely low
Excellent review! I have a TD20KX kit, and upgraded it to the TD-30 module and the VH-13 a couple of years ago. Do you think I'm still missing out on the upgraded toms, snare and cymbals from the Td-30KV?
dashmaul Do you see hot spotting as a big issue and are you willed to pay more money for a 50% improvement of the hot spotting? I personally would not. But that is up to you.
1st off, I'm no drummer, but a fan of this kit. This has to be the most in depth review of this kit, so thank, & funniest too. The sounds from this kit, to my ears sound for some reason better than the TD-50. I must be missing something, ears perhaps? Haha.
Well, there are some people that prefer the TD-30 sounds over the TD-50 sounds. It is also a matter of taste. I personally like the 50s sounds more. Others do even prefer the TD-20 sounds.
Its all opinion! Most people could make some pretty good sounding kits with this module. Plus they never take into account headphones monitors and other variables that affect sound. I played a td-25 and a td-50 back to back in a drum shop and the td 25 sounded better to me. Could have been the headphones.
Excellent review! I've been trying to figure out what the decent modern options are for second hand v-drums and this hit the tom on the head for me. ty ^_^
Awesome review. I understand much more about my pads, the differences re: TD30/50 and the info on the refurb details on the triggers, is great, as a DIY (hate I cant buy parts from Roland now). Thx, also for stating the sounds do not match the TD50. Why in the world would they down grade output, etc features, if I understand this correctly = to the TD50 or the big kit expansions of more pads or no USB for kits saves & updates. The Silver cymbals have 1 issue : build up on frame edge inside that must be cleaned out periodically. The black cymbals/rim covers dont stain head, but the silver cymbals. Right on.
jakedieselmrb It works identical with the average vests, but there is a difference with SD3, as the dynamics of a Roland set are just better. The Roland module picks up and send more accurate signals.
great review, I had this Drum kit, only one question for you, would you change the bass drum for one of the newest ones like the KD180?? thanks for any comment
@Vdrum Tips - what do you think would be a good hi-hat stand for this kit? I have an Iron Cobra double bass pedal so just looking for ideas. Please let me know. Thanks - trying to get pieces for the Roland TD-30KV kit at the moment.
I plug a flash drive on usb port to play the music on .mp3 and .wave formats and nothing came up in the module. Looked like the drive was empty. Any tips?
Man, hi, I like your videos. I can't find many man y information about the 2Box drumit 3. So if you can make a video maybe about it that would be great
Excellent review, thank you for your work. One question, is the improved hi hat open/close sensor any more reactive for foot splashes? I have always found this particular hi hat function somewhat lacking on the Yamaha edrums I own.
Regards! I already bought the Raw Studio Kit - Custom Sound Bundle for TD-30 and it sounds great! . I want to ask, I have superior drummer 3, I probe it with midi sequence and it is excellent! also try with the mause the drums on the screen of the pc and respond well, but I connect the td 30 with sound card m audio and the answer is not the same, use roland trigger, connect card via usb to pc, connect td 30 a m audio card via midi, also probe connecting td 30 with usb, but it does not convince me! Is it possible that it sounds perfect? please help! thanks friend!
As for the cymbal color coming off - as long as it doesn't hurt the sound and functionality, don't be bothered. Some musicians, including myself, love the vintage look and visual features that signify the mileage it has overcome
Excellent and funny video! I'm thinking of buying a TD17 because of the price and sample imports. Do you think triggering (Prismatic vs Supernatural) and sounds are good in this module compared to the TD30? Thanks!
Fausto Sánchez Yes, the TD-17 has a much better sound engine (from the TD-50). I like the TD-17 sounds much more, however, the other features (mentioned in the video) are much more important to some users. But still the TD-17 is great for its price range.
@@Vdrumtips1 Yeah, TD30 is a beast, specially for live shows! Sounds are the most important thing for me, but this is a Top 3 module for me (under TD50 and Pearl Mimic)
TD11 have some decent rimshot capability. Got a set myself (+ extra cymbal and double pedals), it's not THE best of VDrums, but it is fun to play, i can grab symbols to silence them, do ride, bell and splash too. I have played the TD-30 KV in a store, i can only describe the feeling as... well, when you go from like cheap €100 drums to the TD 11/15 type VDrums... that difference is as distinct between the 11/15 and the 30. It feels more like playing on REAL drums. Was kind of expensive at the time, but if i was a professional drummer i would have bought the 30 without even blinking.
Daniel Waagen Very good choice! Drum-tec makes excellent shell sets. The quality is outstanding and the trigger result is Roland like. Not to forget that they make the best mesh drum heads.
Mario Pérez Cuartero For a TD-30KV? The set without accessories costs around 3500-4500$ on the second hand market. But I saw TD-30 KVs being sold for 3000$. It depends on the seller and a bit on luck aswell. So 3000€/$ is a good price. And 3500-4000 is an ok price. Age and condition are a big factor.
Defeat Sensorship Because no one needs that. It would make the pad and module more expensive for a feature that maybe 1% of the users demand. BTW, the snare wires can be thrown off in the module.
@@Vdrumtips1 It really wouldn't cost that much as I have made prototyes that would function if proper firmware updating and the use of one of the TD50's USB signals could be allocated. Thank you for your response, really appreciate your content!!!!
For the price of this kit one could buy an Alesis strike pro, a MacBook pro, an audio interface, Logic Pro recording software, Easy Drummer software, and a GoPro camera to film videos with, and still have money left over. Roland may be the first and the best, but unless they start providing better value, they're going to lose as their patients run out.
I disagree. The Strike has massive issues and so many people have problems with it, because parts are poorly engineered and fail. Furthermore is it not of the same quality, neither is it as dynamic as a Roland flagship and also does it come with a much higher latency. If money is the concern then I would rather play a second hand TD12 and trigger a VST than a Strike.
I would have to disagree as well. I just picked up a set of TD-17KVX and it is absolutely the best sounding Vdrums I have ever played. And the kit is cheaper than same as the alesis strike pro at around $1600. I spent 4 hours in guitar center playing both kits and the TD-17 sounded so much better and the pads also felt more like real drums. My only real complaint is the rack and the bass drum. But I plan to upgrade it to a Gibraltar rack in the future replace the bass drum with a better one. All in with DW 3000 Hi hat stand and Dw 3000 double base pedal and throne I spend $2400 and it was worth every penny. My band just recorded our first album and The producer couldn't get over how well the electronic drum set sounded. If you are looking for a cheap alterative to the TD30 That is the td-17 is defiantly the way to go.
This review is for the TD-30, not the TD-17, hence my comparison is to that of a TD-30, and the cost of owning a TD-30. Not really sure what your point is, but maybe you should have typed in on a comment board for a video about that TD-17? But, since you brought it up, the Alesis strike (not the strike pro) is a closer comparison to the TD-17, with a retail of $1,699.
The fact is. he sites the td17 head in this video. And Roland makes the best sounding vdrums hands down. The alesis strike is a complete waist of money. And you get what you pay for. I was merely stating that if you were looking for a quality set of v drums at a good price then thats the kit to go with. It wasnt an attack. and there are 3 versions of the td-17s starting at $999 for the TD-17KL, the TD-17KV for $1199... and the top end of that kit (What i have) is the td-17kvx and it retails for 1599 at guitar center. I wanted the 3 cymbals and the real feel high hat which is why I went with the kvx. I would agree that the TD-30s is a cool brain because of all the stuff you can interface with it. and it has more options that the TD-17 but the sound of the drums from that unit is like nothing else I have heard.
and a side note... If you really want to compare price for price and quality against quality. talk to any real drummer that actually cares about sound quality and they will all tell you that alesis has nothing on roland and like you said they hold all the patents. Because they are the ones driving the electronic drum world. Also read what he thinks about alesis... and you sited the strike pro's so I was giving you a better option for the same money.
Thank you! I'm getting the ATV snare and moving the PD-125 to be Tom 4. (I will have 3 PDX-100 rack toms and 2 PD125 for floor toms). I replaced the TD-30 brain with the Mimic Pro and got the ATV hi hats. Now I have an extra set of hats (VH-11s). Not sure what to do with them. Can VH-11 be used as a crash cymbal?@@Vdrumtips1
Say whatever you want about the TD-30, but I've had my set for 6 years now and it has been a gigging workhorse. This year I've flown four times with it (in cases) and it never disappoints. It truly shines in the studio with its full MIDI in/out and it also reduces massively the need to barricade the drummer off. It also has some very powerful chain and rotation capabilities that can be "recorded" and played on demand by a foot switch..... Very useful in "one-man shows" not to even mention VST. It has its warts, to be sure, but it's made its money back for me easily.
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This is the best video review of the TD-30KV i've ever seen. Really great review !
Thank you!
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I have had my td30kv since 2 months after they were released and can safely say I’ve never had any wear on the cymbals. Using new sticks definitely helps I always use a different pair for an acoustic kit than I would for the electric. Only wear and tear I have had really has been on the meshes but an easy replacement to do
I’ve watched your video several times I learned so much from your knowledge you shared. Thank you again for The countless hours you spent to educate cpeople who are interested in information about Drum modules! I’ve watched numerous tutorials about drum modules, and this video is by far The most information I’ve learned on the categories I lacked knowledge knowing. Looking forward to more videos in the future!
We set up a brand new Roland kv-30 with a double pedal and a huge monitor set up. Ive been playing over 35 years and have been on countless tours and studios, yes it is the best electronic kit. It was like playing the best sounding and best feeling kits every time you sat down on it. It never changed. I would make micro changes as far as mic placement and reverb adjustments and found I liked it dryer but it was endless to how well you can dial the sounds in. Its like no other electronic kit ive ever played. As a matter of a fact I didn't care for them and always you a couple pads for accent around my acoustic kit live. This kit is different. It is as serious as you are and as serious as you want to be.
First off, been following you guys for a long time, your videos are high quality and informative and I've watched them many times over and always seem to glean something new. Second, for anyone reading, the TD-30 is widely available online which is where I snagged mine up for 1300 dollars, and let me tell you, it was money well spent.
My only beefs with the TD-30 is that the stock snare sounds are just totally bad outside of 2 samples (the maple snare is passable and the custom wood one is the best). The kick/toms/cymbals however are a ridiculously huge step up from the TD-9 and the TD- 20. The bad samples and in particular the snare is something that seems to really plague all but the highest end of electric drum modules, I've played the top of the line Alesis and Yamaha kits as well and was like, "wow these are somehow even worse then Roland's snare sounds" so it must just be a thing in the E-drum world and not exclusive to Roland.
The video mentions the fact that you have to, "dig around" in the module a bit, I'm gonna say that to anyone that isn't really experienced using drum modules, "dig around" is an understatement. This things got features and setting adjustments for days and days and days. I was already used to low end modules owning the TD-15 before hand, and I had to watch numerous videos/read numerous forum articles/mess around and dig endlessly just to wrap my head around the basic editing power. I've had the module for 6 months I'm barely learning how to use the USB to it's full capability and it's opening up so many possibilities.
All in all, go buy this thing, I've got my kit dialed in so smooth I'd stack it up against a 5,000$ acoustic kit with brand new heads any day.
Very nice drum i love this Set, hope to own it someday
Thank you for this excellent review. Its nice to see people appreciate good design. The DIY aspect of edrumming sometimes makes people complain about price. They dont take into account an engineers blood sweat and tears.
mimicry88 I know exactly what you mean. Good engineering has its cost and I rather pay more money for a good design and good functionality.
Great video: Love my TD-30KV! Finally a video that proudly promotes one of the finest edrum kits ever made. Well done! Here's an artifact of interest: The TD-30 module can also be MIDIed to an old Roland PM-16 Drum Pad Midi Interface which will expand your inputs to 16 more pads/triggers! I've used this interface and it has some very good features including MIDI layering. They go for under 100 USD on eBay, Amazon or Reverb.
I checked that PM-16. Thanks for mentioning it, I did not know it before!
You're most welcome. A great expansion from years gone by, mostly forgotten. It has some outstanding features for it's time.
This is a really interesting and informative video, I didn’t realize the differences between the pd100, pd105, pd125 and pd128 pads. I’m a current td30k user. I’m getting ready to upgrade to the td50dp. Looking forward to seeing more great videos...
Thanks! I did not either until opening these pads and reading the patent.
Let me know when you want to sell it I live in California
Funny and informative in the same time. What an awesome review!
I have to agree, the TD-30 is the best choice for triggering VST, though I haven’t yet tested the new digital snare & the TD-50.
Mike Luke Thank you! I know that some people use the TD-50 with SD3, but I think it is not needed. I am not sure if the Digital pads generated Midi notes are different from what the TD-30 does.
I just did a few days ago with a Marimba. It worked great.
At 15:35 I suddenly realized that “mojo” was actually module LOL Thank you for this very informative video!
This is by far your best video! What a great job you did man! I am a DIY guy and you have given me sooo many ideas. I will own a TD-30 module someday. I got a TD-9 after your review of that. I think my TD-9 is going to make a super slave module. Thanks for doing these videos it really helps.
Joshua Ferry Thank You! I also had a TD-9 for 3 years before I upgraded. I did not rush and took my time until I found a good deal on the next best module. The TD-9 is not ideal as slave module because of the cable snake.
SO i can say that you are a wonder. I couldn't find anybody on the yt to explain the eDrums like you did. This is what i was looking for. Great work!
Still the best electric kit ever made in my opinion....
The TD-30 will be the new TD-10 imo, unless something drastically changed in vdrum technology, I could see this module being used 20 years from now. Td-10 came out in 97, and some people still using it for vst triggering. I had one as well, used it for vst triggering and just the module sounds only for my electronic music and it worked and sounded great. I sold it to another drummer who’s td-10 screen died and gave him friend price 140$
Every little piece is spectacular. I have the Mimic Pro module with it.
Totals time had spent in , with this, will be more, and more... enjoying.
“A weird scaffolding from the year 3000” I almost spit out my drink 😂🤣😂🤣
I´m totaly impressed with this video, is pure information. Keep doing this kind of videos.
Thanks, will do:)
Really fantastic video. Have owned a set since 2014, and while it probably hasn't seen the volume (or talent) of play yours has, my cymbals haven't worn that badly. Only use new sticks on it.
Very accurate video.
You mentioned you refurbished/cleaned this td-30 KV kit.
Have you any tutorial video on how to properly clean, disassemble, service, assemble, etc. this kit?
If so, please drop us a link if it is online.
Thanks so much for posting this video -- I learned a ton! Now I understand exactly how the triggering system on the 108/128 pads (which I play) differs from other Roland pads. I was particularly interested in your comment that Drum-Tec pads won't perform as well as a 128 since I'm interested in the Drum-Tec Pro 14" snare -- not because I'm displeased with the 128, but rather because of the bigger size. That said, if the Drum-Tec pad isn't going to trigger as well, or exhibit more hot-spotting, then I don't think I would go there (particularly given how expensive the DT pad is). I have to agree that the 128 has less hot-spotting compared to earlier Roland pads, and I have no desire to go backwards in that regard. Any additional insight you could provide in this regard would be most welcome. Thanks again!
Well that trigger technology is patented, so drum-tec cannot use it. Their pads however are good in another way, they reduce hottspotting trough a non stretchy mesh head that is tensioned. However, I believe the PD-128 does still perform a bit better. The drum-tech pads are still great though.
Use nylon tip drum sticks. That does the trick for me to help cymbals and the mesh heads last much longer. I even used them when I played acoustic drums in the past.
Easy to setup, easy to learning. And like to collect all .Roland.....so solid
Great video hands down! I loved to play my TD30, but the TD50 Upgrade Pack was worth every Euro Cent. 😁🤘🏼
Marco Prolo Sure, I am considering this too, but I still do not like the fact that Roland took away the percussion set.
I honestly never touched the percussion set on the TD30. :D
But for everyone who needs that it's definitely a big letdown.
Great job sir! I can tell you are a real drummer and not someone in sales
I am not in sales, else I would not promote an End of Life product.
Amazing video! So much in-depth insight. What a great resource for people looking to pick one of these up or existing owners. Thanks for making this!
Thanks Chris, glad you benefited from it:)
I had one of these for a few years,then I bought the Yamaha 950 K ,never went back to the roland kit,sold it a month later !
I am sure the Yamaha flagship has its advantages. I like the feel of their pads.
Vdrum Tips with all due respect not just the pads put the cymbals/hi-hat,response,also with the up to date,drum downloads,this kit is still a cut above the others !
Excellent review. I have had my TD-30KV for a few years now and learned some very valuable things that I didn't know from fiddling around with it myself. I love the set and have it maxed out on pad inputs now, thanks to deals found on ebay. I wish I had just 2 more aux inputs for cymbals so I wouldn't have to split a couple of triggers. No such thing as too many cymbals!
I have 2 pd100 and 2 pd120 as toms on my td17kvx. No rim triggers but I never notice any hot spotting?. Which is awesome. I have to use them as pd85x and pd105x pads in settings cuz the module doesn’t have these pads as a choice in pad setting. Could be happier.
The settings are the same for PD-100 and PD-105. I made a video on how to add a rim piezo in case you are interested.
Vdrum Tips yes I’ve seen that awesome video as well. I’d rather have splitters and use the rims as cy-5 splash and I just bought a cy-15 for a steal $100 from a local music store so I’ll make the cy13 into a 3rd crash.
Also would there be any possible way to get td11 snare samples and load them into my td17???? I’ve asked drum tec but no reply yet. That’s the only real issue I’m having is I can’t seem to get that thick tight in your face snare sound that I use to get from the td11 custom snare sample.
Not sure why but hotspotting seems to be more apparent on the snare. Really annoying to me. Went to side mounted trigger on both of my sets.
@@neewollah6875 $100 is great. I really like mine.
There's a used
TD-50KS kit locally for $2699. Decent deal?
Curious if your still on here. Similar to my strike pro, when using direct out, seems all effects, eq, ambience and compression are gone, just the dry signal. I know most sound engineers in the clubs I play at don't have the time or interest in dialing these sounds in so feel like I need to send the LR to the FOH. Is this correct and is there a work around? In my experience, some of the ambience and compression cant be reproduced in a club mixing board? Figured, I could always send the LR of the full mix too and they could add some kick snare or toms etc but not pull sounds out?
I’m looking for in buy the TD 30 module to turn my kit into hybrid kit using VST software. I play live, so my question is will I need a interface to send it to a PA system?
Springgy Fit No, the TD-30 is an interface already. BUt you need an interface from your PC to the PA, this can be a mixing desk for example with USB.
Vdrum Tips ok thank you so much!! I can finally start the process in converting my kit
If you are playing through a large system you will need a rack mount DI module, to turn the unbalanced outs of the module into balanced signals. I use a Berhinger 8 channel DI.
Wow what a great review! I had no idea about the differences of the triggers internal to the 128s pads as well as all of the features of the TD-30 vs the td-50. I have been look at the TD-50 module to replace my TD-20X but now I am seriously considering the TD-30 especially if I can transfer all of my kits I have built over the years. Thanks for the info and your channel. ~drumdog69~ a long time subscriber
mfournier01 Thank You! Well, the TD-50 might still be the better set. You can build new kits there:)
Any recommendations on hi-hat stands & snare stands?
I thought about purchasing a one but decided on the new TD27kv. But going to look at that MDS25 rack though...the rack that came with the TD27 seems tight...
Hello, does anyone know how to only increase the volume of the metronome? In some modes it sounds very low.
Thanks for a great tutorial on the TD-30 KV
You can do sound layering with a midi cable plugged into the in and out then use percussion sets to layer sounds. It’s a “hack” work around for the module. So wish this percussion set feature was on td-27 and Td-50 module. I really want to upgrade to td-27, however I have thought about the td-30 instead. The biggest downside is no sample import. I know I could use ableton live to load samples
In Nov 2017 I layed out 3700 Euro and bought what I thought was a TD30kv only to now recognise I got all Hardware from td20kv (125xs, 105x, 125x, VH12...) plus a td30 Module. I dont ask how stupid you think I am;-)
I ask how bad was that deal really, as I cant seem to find many used td20 sets...
Loved your video I am in the process of setting up a Td30kv I bought second hand!
Don McMurtry Cool!
How much did you pay for it and where are you from?
Hey can i play a song with the td30kv i mean i use earphones and the music and the drum sound coming together. Is it possible?
@@ricksmith4894he’s from Germany
@@ozunkeskin6919yes it is! you can actually connect your phone with an aux cable to the mix in port or whatever it’s called and play a song
Very good and detailed review! Danke!
I was very interested in your statement that SD3 is optimized for the TD30 (which I play). I've watched a lot of different videos on the TD50, Mimic Pro, SD3, SSD and some other VST's. Some sound better than others but SD3 is the only one that makes me REALLY want to make a switch. It will likely be my next upgrade. I think the only reason I haven't done it is because I don't have the time to invest into digging in and learning the software (and it's obviously designed with the power user in mind). For now, sticking with my TD30 (though I'm definitely aware of its limitations, I'm not displeased with it) but it's good to have some more reassurance that the upgrade path should be relatively smooth. Thanks!
You are right, SD3 requires a lot of time. are here, the TD-30 is still great for what I do.
I have an old TD-20 module and I need to buy a Roland Hi-hat, which would you recommend, vh-11, vh-12 or 13?
thanks
IMHO 13 as that is realistic for an acoustic hi hat. I owned the TD20s and having a realistic size for the hats was critical.
Excellent in depth review! Thank you...
So, can I just buy the TD-30 module and pair it with other V-drum triggers? Or does the trigger need to match?
Great review ,i am also curious about your opinion on the td30 vs the mimic pro [modules]
It depends on the user. The VST user does not need a Mimic, but the live drummer and the non-VST drummer, geeks, etc, should look into the mimic. It has a percussion set, many inputs and even some trigger adjustment settings that the TD-30 does not have. I am not a big fan of the touchscreen, but everything else is just great with the Pearl Mimic, most of all, the sounds.
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I believe I can hear in the sound though of the highhats that the VH-13 seems to emulatue the sound when theyre close together (but not fully together yet) at a more realistic distance. But im just watching the video so maybe im wrong ^^ ... also if thats it its a very subtle difference ^^
Such a good informative video.
Hey. You still love your TD 30 ?
Td 8 modiul maching ?
Plugging the td30 to computer via usb (without mixer) is there a way to control the direct out volume? The recording picked up on my mac is extremely low
Excellent review!
I have a TD20KX kit, and upgraded it to the TD-30 module and the VH-13 a couple of years ago.
Do you think I'm still missing out on the upgraded toms, snare and cymbals from the Td-30KV?
dashmaul Do you see hot spotting as a big issue and are you willed to pay more money for a 50% improvement of the hot spotting? I personally would not. But that is up to you.
Can you elaborate on the VST part of the video? I'm a VST drummer, but I didn't catch the meaning of that section of the video. Thanks!
Stephen Davenport What section is it? Please send the time code.
Vdrum Tips 21:00
1st off, I'm no drummer, but a fan of this kit. This has to be the most in depth review of this kit, so thank, & funniest too. The sounds from this kit, to my ears sound for some reason better than the TD-50. I must be missing something, ears perhaps? Haha.
Well, there are some people that prefer the TD-30 sounds over the TD-50 sounds. It is also a matter of taste. I personally like the 50s sounds more. Others do even prefer the TD-20 sounds.
Its all opinion! Most people could make some pretty good sounding kits with this module. Plus they never take into account headphones monitors and other variables that affect sound. I played a td-25 and a td-50 back to back in a drum shop and the td 25 sounded better to me. Could have been the headphones.
Nice review... I am reletivly new to drumming, but I am already eyeing up my next kit 😁. Looks like you have a good one there😉
Excellent review! I've been trying to figure out what the decent modern options are for second hand v-drums and this hit the tom on the head for me. ty ^_^
VERY Nice ! A great film of this awsome setup. I enjoyed this film from start to finish.
Thanks, glad you liked it:)
Wow ! So fantastic
Getting one next week
Awesome review. I understand much more about my pads, the differences re: TD30/50 and the info on the refurb details on the triggers, is great, as a DIY (hate I cant buy parts from Roland now). Thx, also for stating the sounds do not match the TD50. Why in the world would they down grade output, etc features, if I understand this correctly = to the TD50 or the big kit expansions of more pads or no USB for kits saves & updates. The Silver cymbals have 1 issue : build up on frame edge inside that must be cleaned out periodically. The black cymbals/rim covers dont stain head, but the silver cymbals. Right on.
How does the 2box drumit 3 sit with triggering VST compared to the roland modules?
jakedieselmrb It works identical with the average vests, but there is a difference with SD3, as the dynamics of a Roland set are just better. The Roland module picks up and send more accurate signals.
great review, I had this Drum kit, only one question for you, would you change the bass drum for one of the newest ones like the KD180?? thanks for any comment
Yes, the KD-180 and 220 is great and much better than the KD-140. However, also louder.
Great review man!
@Vdrum Tips - what do you think would be a good hi-hat stand for this kit? I have an Iron Cobra double bass pedal so just looking for ideas. Please let me know. Thanks - trying to get pieces for the Roland TD-30KV kit at the moment.
How do these pads compare to yamaha’s silicone pads?
How do you record to computer? I tried and it sounds like crap
Greatest drum review A+.
I WANT TO BUY NEW ROLAND TD - 30KVX-V DRUMS !!!!!!! ANY INFO PLEASE !!!!
I plug a flash drive on usb port to play the music on .mp3 and .wave formats and nothing came up in the module. Looked like the drive was empty. Any tips?
half leal - I don’t have access to the specs but he did say midi files could be played. I am assuming only midi files are usable.
Is it me or do the cymbals sound way better on the Yamaha DTX 750k -950k?
I love my TD-30 KV 🤟🏼
Hey can i play a song with them i mean play sound with the earphone the music and the drums sound coming together. Is it possible?
Man, hi, I like your videos. I can't find many man y information about the 2Box drumit 3. So if you can make a video maybe about it that would be great
David Apolinario I would like to, but I have not received a module for a test yet.
Excellent review, thank you for your work.
One question, is the improved hi hat open/close sensor any more reactive for foot splashes? I have always found this particular hi hat function somewhat lacking on the Yamaha edrums I own.
Great stuff.and honest.
A Irish drummer.
Thanks 😊
Great video!
Great review
Regards! I already bought the Raw Studio Kit - Custom Sound Bundle for TD-30 and it sounds great! .
I want to ask, I have superior drummer 3, I probe it with midi sequence and it is excellent! also try with the mause the drums on the screen of the pc and respond well, but I connect the td 30 with sound card m audio and the answer is not the same, use roland trigger, connect card via usb to pc, connect td 30 a m audio card via midi, also probe connecting td 30 with usb, but it does not convince me! Is it possible that it sounds perfect? please help! thanks friend!
Can you review the mps 850 millénium??????
As for the cymbal color coming off -
as long as it doesn't hurt the sound and functionality, don't be bothered.
Some musicians, including myself, love the vintage look and visual features
that signify the mileage it has overcome
Great way to see things:D
Good video thanks. Which would you chose? One of these (TD30KV) second hand or a new TD17KVX? Thanks in advance!
Tibby K Definetly the first one
Does anyone know what this kit retailed for?
Excellent and funny video! I'm thinking of buying a TD17 because of the price and sample imports. Do you think triggering (Prismatic vs Supernatural) and sounds are good in this module compared to the TD30? Thanks!
Oh, you said that at the end of the video, sorry! I'm really amazed! I can't believe TD17 has better sounds than a TD30!
Fausto Sánchez Yes, the TD-17 has a much better sound engine (from the TD-50). I like the TD-17 sounds much more, however, the other features (mentioned in the video) are much more important to some users. But still the TD-17 is great for its price range.
@@Vdrumtips1 Yeah, TD30 is a beast, specially for live shows! Sounds are the most important thing for me, but this is a Top 3 module for me (under TD50 and Pearl Mimic)
I totally agree on your Top 3! :D
TD11 have some decent rimshot capability. Got a set myself (+ extra cymbal and double pedals), it's not THE best of VDrums, but it is fun to play, i can grab symbols to silence them, do ride, bell and splash too.
I have played the TD-30 KV in a store, i can only describe the feeling as... well, when you go from like cheap €100 drums to the TD 11/15 type VDrums... that difference is as distinct between the 11/15 and the 30. It feels more like playing on REAL drums. Was kind of expensive at the time, but if i was a professional drummer i would have bought the 30 without even blinking.
I am looking into buying a Pro-S drum tec kit. Any thoughts on them?
Daniel Waagen Very good choice! Drum-tec makes excellent shell sets. The quality is outstanding and the trigger result is Roland like. Not to forget that they make the best mesh drum heads.
What would be a good price in the second-hand market?
Thanks!
Mario Pérez Cuartero For a TD-30KV? The set without accessories costs around 3500-4500$ on the second hand market. But I saw TD-30 KVs being sold for 3000$. It depends on the seller and a bit on luck aswell. So 3000€/$ is a good price. And 3500-4000 is an ok price. Age and condition are a big factor.
How much did u get it for?
The biggest quest I have for Roland is why is there no snare throw off on the drum?
Defeat Sensorship Because no one needs that. It would make the pad and module more expensive for a feature that maybe 1% of the users demand. BTW, the snare wires can be thrown off in the module.
@@Vdrumtips1 It really wouldn't cost that much as I have made prototyes that would function if proper firmware updating and the use of one of the TD50's USB signals could be allocated. Thank you for your response, really appreciate your content!!!!
Are they still updating firmware?
Thanks for the tips.
I got mine!
2:45 Immigrant Song?
started belting it out as soon as I heard the beat lol
For the price of this kit one could buy an Alesis strike pro, a MacBook pro, an audio interface, Logic Pro recording software, Easy Drummer software, and a GoPro camera to film videos with, and still have money left over.
Roland may be the first and the best, but unless they start providing better value, they're going to lose as their patients run out.
I disagree. The Strike has massive issues and so many people have problems with it, because parts are poorly engineered and fail. Furthermore is it not of the same quality, neither is it as dynamic as a Roland flagship and also does it come with a much higher latency. If money is the concern then I would rather play a second hand TD12 and trigger a VST than a Strike.
I would have to disagree as well. I just picked up a set of TD-17KVX and it is absolutely the best sounding Vdrums I have ever played. And the kit is cheaper than same as the alesis strike pro at around $1600. I spent 4 hours in guitar center playing both kits and the TD-17 sounded so much better and the pads also felt more like real drums. My only real complaint is the rack and the bass drum. But I plan to upgrade it to a Gibraltar rack in the future replace the bass drum with a better one. All in with DW 3000 Hi hat stand and Dw 3000 double base pedal and throne I spend $2400 and it was worth every penny. My band just recorded our first album and The producer couldn't get over how well the electronic drum set sounded. If you are looking for a cheap alterative to the TD30 That is the td-17 is defiantly the way to go.
This review is for the TD-30, not the TD-17, hence my comparison is to that of a TD-30, and the cost of owning a TD-30. Not really sure what your point is, but maybe you should have typed in on a comment board for a video about that TD-17?
But, since you brought it up, the Alesis strike (not the strike pro) is a closer comparison to the TD-17, with a retail of $1,699.
The fact is. he sites the td17 head in this video. And Roland makes the best sounding vdrums hands down. The alesis strike is a complete waist of money. And you get what you pay for. I was merely stating that if you were looking for a quality set of v drums at a good price then thats the kit to go with. It wasnt an attack. and there are 3 versions of the td-17s starting at $999 for the TD-17KL, the TD-17KV for $1199... and the top end of that kit (What i have) is the td-17kvx and it retails for 1599 at guitar center. I wanted the 3 cymbals and the real feel high hat which is why I went with the kvx. I would agree that the TD-30s is a cool brain because of all the stuff you can interface with it. and it has more options that the TD-17 but the sound of the drums from that unit is like nothing else I have heard.
and a side note... If you really want to compare price for price and quality against quality. talk to any real drummer that actually cares about sound quality and they will all tell you that alesis has nothing on roland and like you said they hold all the patents. Because they are the ones driving the electronic drum world. Also read what he thinks about alesis... and you sited the strike pro's so I was giving you a better option for the same money.
In your opinion, which would be a better choice for the Mimic Pro, a PD-128s, or ATV 13 inch snare?
Clearly the ATV 13 inch snare. The mimic does not have Positional sensing, so why take the pad with a centre cone? :)
Thank you! I'm getting the ATV snare and moving the PD-125 to be Tom 4. (I will have 3 PDX-100 rack toms and 2 PD125 for floor toms). I replaced the TD-30 brain with the Mimic Pro and got the ATV hi hats. Now I have an extra set of hats (VH-11s). Not sure what to do with them. Can VH-11 be used as a crash cymbal?@@Vdrumtips1
Say whatever you want about the TD-30, but I've had my set for 6 years now and it has been a gigging workhorse. This year I've flown four times with it (in cases) and it never disappoints. It truly shines in the studio with its full MIDI in/out and it also reduces massively the need to barricade the drummer off.
It also has some very powerful chain and rotation capabilities that can be "recorded" and played on demand by a foot switch..... Very useful in "one-man shows" not to even mention VST.
It has its warts, to be sure, but it's made its money back for me easily.
I agree, it is solid equipment.
5:52 Finally I understand :-)
Same here, I never realized all the useful information in the Roland patents. I would recommend reading the one I mentioned, very interesting:)
I wanna buy a set so i can play at night at home, however i don't wanna disturb those sleeping. Can you use headphones with this set?
Yes
Vdrum Tips thank you
I''m still trying to figure out why Roland discontinued these. WTF, Roland?!
Because they replaced it with the td50..
If they kept producing successful models for long periods, they would never be able to justify keeping the sale price super high.
No more videos?
I commited to other projects
I want a set
Haha . I was laughing knowing the kick trigger is 11kg 🤣 noway we got to be used on lifting barbels in order to lift it 🤣