Goodbye COBB Accessport... Hello Opensource!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The title says it all guys, we are getting rid of the COBB Accessport due to the green speed update. Yes I could've put the emission related items back on the car. However, in the future I'd like to make more power out of the car, and to do what I'd like to do, we would end up in the same position. I'm not completely excited about going with opensource, but we will see how this goes!
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opensource remote tunes are THE FUTURE! So glad you're going this way, way more options and street logs give a tuner a lot of real-world data for a better daily anyway Drag racers look at drag logs, generator technicians look at usage logs, but dynos - particularly without a variable brake and 4-hub mounts - are kinda dumb to begin with for an AWD car, since thats not normal behaviour. Looking forward to seeing more abnormal behaviour haha
Well before the COBB AP opensource was the thing to do. Not sure about remote tuning opensource, but it was forsure done on the dyno. It doesn't have all the features but does offer a way to tune your car without restrictions.
You can turn off any DTC you want in the RomRaider DTC tab including rear O2. Your tuner may not want to do it themselves for legal reasons.
Thanks, good to know! I ended up putting the o2 sensor back on since then.
It's cool, though, because now you can keep a labtop in the passenger seat that gives you a manifold in danger warning! Just be careful with your floor pan 😂
Yeah for real!
Tactrix are dirt cheap for everything they can do. They literally have saved me thousands. " Off-road use only" those lovely little options. 😁💯👌
Other software companies are charging 200 bucks for one off the shelf tune. That's not even including your hardware. Nuts
Yes i agree, they are extremely usefull!
Re: Loss of gauges. I just use an OBD dongle and Torque Pro. Tons of gauge options in Torque Pro. Works great on my Android head unit.
I also found a Tactrix clone that works well with ECUFlash/RomRaider, but it may only work with pre/early Can Bus cars (I have an 04 Baja Turbo). Torque will also do logging.
Ah yes, I forgot you could do that with android devices!
I got accesstuner for my accessport back in 2018, before this thing where cobb neutered the AP and what a shop can do. Glad that I never updated the tuning software as I can still turn off what I want to shut off. I just recently resurrected my 2005 wrx, it sat for a while but just got in it and did the whole timing belt set, put on a VF39 and IC from a STI owned by a friend of mine, DW200 pump, FIC 1100 injectors I had sitting around waiting to go in. The engine I rebuilt a couple years ago before I parked it, it's a 2 liter from a JDM twin turbo legacy (obviously I'm running single on it) I didn't bother connecting my Wideband to run through the AP, I have it pod mounted and eyes on it and live tracing on my laptop running pass-through on the AP. Currently just tuning in the everyday drivability with e85 on my work commute, 50 miles each way. Lot of data and lots of areas I can steady hold certain speeds and loads. I get that settled and I'll start the WOT tuning.
Nice! Sounds like you have a fun project on your hands
You should tune my 05 WRX so I don’t have to go and buy a Tactrix yet😂 I wanted to keep the AP
@jonahmanansala1852 I don't have that version of Accesstuner, as far as I'm aware the pro version is what shops that tune use, I think my Accesstuner software is basically married up to my AP, which is married up to the car. But hell, I could email the map I'm currently running if your mods are same and your running e85, if your on 91-93 octane of have to make scaling adjustments for the injectors and maybe change the ramp up on the boost.
@jonahmanansala1852 The fact yours is an 05, who knows you may be able to load, I do know my software is locked to 2005 model year only. I don't have the option to select different years.
I have an 08 wrx and I have a deleted set up the only thing done to the car is exhaust and I want the cel gone but I can’t seem to do it with the cobb ap rn so I’m probably gonna switch too
Yeah unfortunately if you have anything deleted you'll probably have to switch. But I have heard there's tuners out there that can work around it.
There’s a lot you can do with open source, I been using it for a few years now, yes you can turn off codes and more but just be careful, it’s easy to mess things up
Yup, that's exactly why I got a tuner for my car!
Learning thank you
No problem, same here!
I just got the ebcs installed on my 16 wrx still gotta add cattless j pipe and tvg delete. But looks like won't be able to add the tvg because of the limp mode. Have to look for a tuner.
Yes, would be a good idea to get a tuner. Always better to get a pro tune over an OTS tune from COBB.
I had an 04 STi with ECUtek . I actually was excited to go access port, with my 18 STi, but because of green speed I never got the chance!
It seems like open source is the only solution all these years later. A little sorry I missed AP and all it's frivolities, but it just wasn't meant to be!
If you don't want to be carb compliant your choices are either open source or stand alone ECU unfortunately
I grew up always wanting to use the AP on a STi. I didn't get to keep mine for very long and I doubt I'll ever be using it now
Who did your tune? I keep failing emissions and getting code P0240 due to a high flow Cat 1320 J-pipe on my FA20
Eric from Torqued performance!
@@zach_lush thank you!
@@MikeFicsacardi no problem
If you wired the wideband to the rear o2 signal wiring you don't get a reading through romraider? Unless there's no afr reading for rear o2 on romraider I don't see why not!
BTW cobb pro tunes are full speed to this day no issues here 🤙
I actually tried it, it was already wired in and working with the COBB AP. On romraider I tried monitoring the rear o2 and it does not show the accurate AFR readings. No idea why it wouldn't work... Im hoping to get it tuned on the COBB AP again when I'm ready to add more power!
The way this guy talks makes me wanna sell my Subaru and call it a day
Do it
What stage do you need to worry about emission deletions? I have a catback exhaust, and want to go turbo back with a new up pipe. I’ve got a 03 bugeye, to hit a stage two tune.
As long as you keep your car carb compliant you'll be okay. Get yourself a catted GESI downpipe, I have COBB's DP. For the up pipe I believe you'll be okay to go catless. A lot of people do it to save their turbos, also 06+ subarus are all catless up pipes. If your really worried, I recommend reaching out to your turner for reassurance.
Hello I have 2008 Wrx wagon I did the stage 3 opensource tune. Will I loose my tune if I change my battery ? Or change alternator
Hey, nope you should be good. If your worried about your tune and have a tactrix cable it's a good idea to make a back up of your tune. Could come in handy someday!
No no, time for MoTec. Once you have one MoTec ECU, everything you own will have MoTec. Tuners will love you
Unfortunately that's not in the budget! Also I don't feel like my current setup is really going to benefit from a standalone. Too basic. Maybe in the future!
@@zach_lush it'll also make it extremely difficult to keep it road legal lol
@@aregaminghd if feel like if your using a standalone ECU your going to be far from road legal 😂
You can remove all of those codes and a wideband can be connected
Well I had a wideband connected originally, my tuner stated it couldn't be used. Seemed odd to me..
@@zach_lush you can wire it into ecu or use a serial to usb adapter to send signal directly to your laptop and worst case scenario you can use the factory front wideband sensor that subi come with stock.
@@larryp85 good to know, I'll remember that for next time
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so if i go this route, what all do i need? just a laptop? and i download this free program after i pay the tuner?
Well you'll need a laptop, tactirx cable, and an AFR gauge in order to do remote tuning this way. I would also only get the tactrix cable directly from tactrix. The ones on Amazon are likely fake and could brick your ECU. If you only plan on doing remote tuning once I'd probably just get it tuned on a dyno.
@@zach_lush u cant tune out a catless downpipe on open source? kinda wierd
@@christopherrogers8316 ive coded out loads of evap and cat related codes on easily 20-30+ cars
Is there an alternative to the Cobb AP that you can use to monitor DAM and things if you have an open source tune?
Not that I'm aware of
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hello a question, I have a cobb and it is possible to unlock it to load custom maps, apparently it is blocked
Hey, yes the COBB AP should be able to load custom maps just by using your computer. But your saying you have to unlock it and it's blocked. Did you buy it used? And was it unmarried? If not you'll have to contact COBB and they can unlock it for you but there is a fee. Hope this helps, good luck!
I dont understand why you did the change if you dont like it? I see something about the green speed update, I have no idea what that is.
I was forced to change since the COBB AP could no longer be used to tune out any emission deleted codes. Since I deleted some things I could no longer use it. I've come around to opensource more since I've made this video.
@@zach_lush Is that a California thing or something? Here in NY we have to pass emissions tests to get our inspection stickers. Most modified cars just go to friends who push a "pass" through using false data. Yes illegal, but nobody committing the crime cares as the laws infringe on our rights in our view. I take it you do not have the ability to bypass their rules. What a bummer. All that being said, open source tuning does seem to be the best way to get yourself more familiar with what goes into a tune and will probably benefit you a lot more down the road.
@@716Flat4 nope, rhe Green Speed update with COBB is world wide. Doesn't matter where you live. I live in Canada Ontario and we no longer have to do any emission related testing anymore. But a lot of tuners will not remove the emission related codes now, very little will. It was easier to just go open source. Only thing I miss about COBB is the screen with dials to monitor and the ability to change maps quickly!
O2 codes can be removed with that binary file
I've heard a few things. I was surprised when my tuner said he couldn't remove it. Same with EVAP codes, I was told they could not be removed.
Not sure if you are catless but if you are did this work through perfectly? Currently catless myself and looking for a solution outside of Cobb
I'm not catless but I have a bunch of emission related mods done. But yes the car did get finished tuning and is still currently tuned using opensource.
@@zach_lush ok fantastic, do you know more specifically if catless people have any issues with a CEL or not? Thanks for the info!
@@christiann.1348 I don't know anyone other than myself that has done this. Bur you should be fine, just need a tuner that can do it.
I dream of no check engine light on 😅
Haven't seen mine in awhile 🙏🏻
Why can't you drive on the stock tune?
Engine has upgraded parts. Stock tune would lead to a blown engine.
You have link to the obd2?
I just put the link in the description
I cant find definitions for 2018 sti
Yeah my tuner did everything with a backup from my car.
Do you have your tuners info so I can buy a tune from him? All the tuners in my area won't do remote stuff.
@@subi_sleeper yup! It's Eric from torqued performance. If you just look up his website his email will be there
pains of being an early adopter for new tech.
Yup, it's brutal.
ECUFlash and RomRaider (along with the tactrix cable) have been around since at least 2009. There's a pretty strong community for it, too! Y'all should check it out. You can actually do your own tuning once you get comfortable with safe levels.
@@jfgaxeworks3447 yes its been around for awhile, a lot longer then the COBB AP. I'm hoping in the future to try out tuning a cheaper car. We will see what happens!
What about the fa20
Refering to the greenspeed update? To my knowledge all vehicles are required to follow COBB's terms with keeping emission related items.
Who's your tuner? I have a 06 Hawkeye and needing to follow the route you've taken
Nice, I went with Eric from torqued performance. Car is still running strong
Also you said you moved north of Bremerton about an hour? Need to move further north! I'm north of Seattle about 2 hours
@@LTRayzor I'm north of Brampton Ontario in Canada
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You can't eliminate codes with the AP anymore. Cobb killed that.
Nope, that's why I went with open source tuning
@@zach_lush I haven't updated my AP yet so luckily I still have no check engine light. Unfortunately I have a bunch of parts to install and I'm gonna need a new tune so I'm going to acquire a check engine light.
If you have old non updated software like I do you can still turn off everything you could before. However I have the individual version of accesstuner, not the pro version.... mine is locked to my ECU and my AP, similar to how the AP marries up to a ECU, but twice over. So I can only tune my car with it.
@@timm.6391 yeah, until you want to add more power and need to plug it in to update the tune. I have a haltech ECU sitting here I just haven't had the time to install it. Cobb can piss up a rope
@thatoneguy454c I've been plugging my laptop into that AP all week... the computer I have accesstuner on I keep offline. My AP is running a firmware in it that is over 3 years old... nothing has changed, I have multiple dtc's turned off, I'm constantly this week changing the parameters and upping power and boost... it can't update if it doesn't have internet to know there is one available. Though with the potential accidental update in mind I've ordered a tactrix cable already. But so far, I've been flashing my ECU with changes all week. Some things can be done real time, but as we know some require full reflash.
Road tuning is better IMO…. Tuning against real world environment.
That is true! Just takes time
Personally I'd rather do my 4th gear pulls on rollers vs streets with speed limits.
Why go open source
Basically COBB had an update where you can no longer tune around any emission deleted modifications. So had to get rid of it and go with opensource tuning.
@@zach_lush woah, crazy. what a thing to do to their own customers
@@John-rw9bv yeah its frustrating but I believe the EPA came down hard on them and they were forced too. Just futurating it affects everyone, not just USA.
How is Bader still tuning all his costumers Sti’s with rotated setups?
Looks as if he has a way around things?
@@thepolishitalian I believe he’s using ecutek and open source tuning