Ow wow. A video of the exact same thing over & over, without even hearing the engine run from *outside* (where we would *actually* hear the chain chatter). Good job!
Hey what is the different n47 engine and b47 engine , i have heard that b47 improved engine from n47 , and usually have a timing chain issues but not in b47 as many as n47 ? What’s been really changed? Thanks
Hi quick question about the fuel pump timing. When are the marks supposed to line up on the pump sprocket and the engine case? Is it at top dead center or 45 degrees off of tdc. I have a 2014 328d xdrive US market car. Thanks for the help.
Hello, I have question. What is the normal working temperature of N47 2l engine 160kw F11 2013? Because my car engine temperature is always 100C but no more.
What mileage was this at out of interest I have a mint condition f10 only got 51k miles on it and thinking of changing chain as a preventative measure what’s yours thoughts ?
Hi, my timing chain broke and the car got a refurbished engine and it is making that rattle noise when I start the car, especially when the engine is warm. BMW garage told me however that noise is an alternator bearing?
@@SkidsNDonuts I made an appontment a few days ago. Some told me that I am wasting money because they cannot hear the timing chain and it sounds ok but I do not want to take any chances.
@@SkidsNDonuts Oh damn. That was exactly what I was thinking could happen. I heard some say that sometimes it can happen without making a chain problem sound and simply snap and fox example I have no idea when did the previous owner change it and did he at all before selling it because it cost a lot to do that.
I've got a 123d 2008 and had a chain replacement couple years back, but it ran dry a little few month back after a oil leak now that's sorted I have a little rattle from the chain, been told might be worth trying to change the tensioner bolt that accessible from the outside, what do you think and where is it? Thanks mate good video
@@vinylll hi thanks for reply, I was under the impression the bolt I am after is changeable externally ( bolt at side of engine) this one looks like its found internal, so impossible to change without stripping down half the engine?
How did u clean inside intake ports perfect like this? Any problem happens after cleaning? I asking this because, some of valves should open when u cleaning ports and some residue can go inside. Perfect job by the way. I ll be looking forward ur answer.
I have an F30 3 series with just under 60k on the clock , purchased from bmw approved used with full service history , I service it with new oil and filters every 5-6k miles do you think I may still have an issue on my hands , should I upgrade the timing chain thanks
I am looking to buy a F31 320d 2017. My mechanic advised that timing chain is problematic, I searched online and I saw people saying that after 2015 this was fixed and people saying it is still problematic
Good night, I live in Finland. After my car broke down and went to scrap, my father-in-law offered to sell me a 2009 model BMW 520D for 7000 euros. The car has 250000 kilometers and has a 2-liter diesel engine with 177 horsepower (N47 engine). He said he did this so we could have a good, reliable car. It is said on the internet that the chain should be changed periodically around 150,000 kilometers. He hasn't changed the engine chain yet, but his car looks really well-maintained and clean. and I know that if the chain breaks the engine can fail. Do you think it's risky to buy this car? I wanted to ask your opinion.
@@tout_sera_tres_bien are you sure you looked around correctly though? is it just that difficult to get cars in Finland? For that money in the UK it’s pretty common to find F series 520’s around 140000 Km
Bad noise from n47 is always timing chain! Or maybe not? Strange noise from my wife's n47 could be something else - but I really need advice. I posted a clip to describe the noise: ruclips.net/video/odrC04YzQ-Q/видео.html
And this is what you call a mechanic in 2024... bro will legit post a video of no sound difference, and then charge the customer for a full timing chain issue. Mechanics are the worst people in history, I left the industry 5 years ago because all we ever did was change a £30 part with 20 mins labour . Then we used to keep the car for 3 days and tell the customer, "oh timing chain nearly killed your whole car but because I found the issue that is 1500 to fix before it blows up" 😂😂😂😂 next time you have any sort of problem with a car. Go to more than 1 mechanic I guarantee you will be quoted different prices and different "problems" 😂
gonna have to check this tomorrow , going to test drive a 2009 E60 5 series with that damn N47 Diesel in it , was hoping it was the older one , but the LCI models seem to have this one in it , is maintained in showroom condition tho , thats the reason i'm looking at it , but 149000 kilometers on the clock , so this could be an issue right about now if it has not been changed in the past. we do have a one year warranty on 2nd hand cars here in belgium , but still if it breaks , i doubt they'll own up to it
Just make sure it got all oil changes done, i wouldnt be scared to buy a N47 as long as its been taken care of. I did 470000 km with a N47 then the gearbox blew and i scrapped it. But i never had a single problem with it
@@dpayne8611 Good night, I live in Finland. After my pejom broke down and went to scrap, my father-in-law offered to sell me a 2009 model BMW 520D for 7000 euros. The car has 250000 kilometers and has a 2-liter diesel engine with 177 horsepower (N47 engine). He said he did this so we could have a good, reliable car. It is said on the internet that the chain should be changed periodically around 150,000 kilometers. He hasn't changed the engine chain yet, but his car looks really well-maintained and clean. and I know that if the chain breaks the engine can fail. Do you think it's risky to buy this car? I wanted to ask your opinion.
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Ow wow. A video of the exact same thing over & over, without even hearing the engine run from *outside* (where we would *actually* hear the chain chatter).
Good job!
😂
The sound is still there my friend after changing the chain!
just not that sharp cuz the new oils I believe
you have a bad waste gate actuator
The sound is exactly the same 😊
Hey what is the different n47 engine and b47 engine , i have heard that b47 improved engine from n47 , and usually have a timing chain issues but not in b47 as many as n47 ?
What’s been really changed? Thanks
Hi quick question about the fuel pump timing. When are the marks supposed to line up on the pump sprocket and the engine case? Is it at top dead center or 45 degrees off of tdc. I have a 2014 328d xdrive US market car. Thanks for the help.
You could have filmed from the outside with open hood would be way easier to spot the difference! :)
On channel you can find video with outside opened hood sound.
Hello, I have question. What is the normal working temperature of N47 2l engine 160kw F11 2013? Because my car engine temperature is always 100C but no more.
Yes its normal
Great video. Thanks... Does the n47t engine have the same problem with chain?
All engines of this type and year have problems with chain 🤝
What mileage was this at out of interest I have a mint condition f10 only got 51k miles on it and thinking of changing chain as a preventative measure what’s yours thoughts ?
Hi! If you change the oil every 10k km, and also don’t drive like a psycho, then you can forget about changing the chain until 150-170k km.
My 320d N47 is now at 401,000km with original chain, but now want to replace chain as a precaution.
@@ndakandaka401k km with original chain ?? And without any sound of chain? Really ??
Hi, my timing chain broke and the car got a refurbished engine and it is making that rattle noise when I start the car, especially when the engine is warm. BMW garage told me however that noise is an alternator bearing?
Anything may be. Also need worth checking out Belt Drive-Vibration Damper
@@vinylll spot on, that’s what was causing the rattle. All solved, was worried it was the chain again.
@@AaronArmstrong99 Hi mate can you tell me how you solved the rattling problem? Thank you!!
Hello. can you give me the reference of this distribution kit? complete? prefers original oem reference!.
Is this engine good? Jusy bought the same one today.
Replace the timing chain asap... I had the misfortune of it snapping a couple months back
@@SkidsNDonuts I made an appontment a few days ago. Some told me that I am wasting money because they cannot hear the timing chain and it sounds ok but I do not want to take any chances.
@tatatira6709 definitely not a waste at all, I heard no noise either until it left me stranded on the motorway 😂
@@SkidsNDonuts Oh damn. That was exactly what I was thinking could happen. I heard some say that sometimes it can happen without making a chain problem sound and simply snap and fox example I have no idea when did the previous owner change it and did he at all before selling it because it cost a lot to do that.
how did you clean the intake ports?
Hello ,
Great job.
Did you change the chains set without removing the engine?🤔🤔
Yes, without removing the engine.
@@vinylll I have a question about the condition of the old sprockets that you removed, were they worn or not? thank you
@@vinylll And what you have done to the crankshaft bearings?
I've got a 123d 2008 and had a chain replacement couple years back, but it ran dry a little few month back after a oil leak now that's sorted I have a little rattle from the chain, been told might be worth trying to change the tensioner bolt that accessible from the outside, what do you think and where is it? Thanks mate good video
Hi, on video 1:04 is the tensioner bolt. If experts say that it is worth replacing, then it is definitely worth paying attention to.
@@vinylll hi thanks for reply, I was under the impression the bolt I am after is changeable externally ( bolt at side of engine) this one looks like its found internal, so impossible to change without stripping down half the engine?
Did you change the chain without removing the engine?
Yes!
@@vinylll did you remove gearbox?
How did u clean inside intake ports perfect like this? Any problem happens after cleaning? I asking this because, some of valves should open when u cleaning ports and some residue can go inside. Perfect job by the way. I ll be looking forward ur answer.
And second question, how did u change chain without engine dismantle?
@@MalekDarwish yes, removing the gearbox is a mandatory procedure for replacing the chain
I have an F30 3 series with just under 60k on the clock , purchased from bmw approved used with full service history , I service it with new oil and filters every 5-6k miles do you think I may still have an issue on my hands , should I upgrade the timing chain thanks
Till 120-150k km don’t stress if you have 2.0d. If you have 3.0 till 200k km no stress and not needed. Thanks
@@vinylll thanks for reply
I am looking to buy a F31 320d 2017. My mechanic advised that timing chain is problematic, I searched online and I saw people saying that after 2015 this was fixed and people saying it is still problematic
I think that a 2017 320d has the B47.
Looks like the bolt I'm after at 0.55 seconds at the top right?
Close-up in the middle of 1.05 is the tensioner bolt that the master told you about.
I'm seeking to buy an N47TD engine, mine got blown. Do you know anyone with one?
how many kilometres/miles on the motor?
~150k
Did you use original bmw kit
Sure, only original parts.
@@vinylll this is the updated kit if I'm correct ?
Thank god mine only sounds like the after!!!! Just went out and started her up now to double check it didn’t make that noise on startup
Good night, I live in Finland. After my car broke down and went to scrap, my father-in-law offered to sell me a 2009 model BMW 520D for 7000 euros. The car has 250000 kilometers and has a 2-liter diesel engine with 177 horsepower (N47 engine). He said he did this so we could have a good, reliable car. It is said on the internet that the chain should be changed periodically around 150,000 kilometers. He hasn't changed the engine chain yet, but his car looks really well-maintained and clean. and I know that if the chain breaks the engine can fail. Do you think it's risky to buy this car? I wanted to ask your opinion.
7000 euros is crazy for a 15 year old 520d on 250K KM 🤣
@@MePaul747 for Finland it’s quite normal, where are you living
@@tout_sera_tres_bien Jesus man the UK
@@tout_sera_tres_bien are you sure you looked around correctly though? is it just that difficult to get cars in Finland? For that money in the UK it’s pretty common to find F series 520’s around 140000 Km
@@MePaul747 yeah it’s like this here. Maybe it would be cheaper to import from germany
It sounds the same?
Yes :))
Bad noise from n47 is always timing chain! Or maybe not? Strange noise from my wife's n47 could be something else - but I really need advice. I posted a clip to describe the noise: ruclips.net/video/odrC04YzQ-Q/видео.html
I thought I could hear the timing chain issue. But the after was no different? Please explain or point out the difference 😕
If you are not familiar with the N47, then it will be difficult for you to understand the difference. Only experience decides
the voice in the video is fucked up. you can't hear the chain there. the start button is pressed loudly.
I cannot hear the difference.
And this is what you call a mechanic in 2024... bro will legit post a video of no sound difference, and then charge the customer for a full timing chain issue. Mechanics are the worst people in history, I left the industry 5 years ago because all we ever did was change a £30 part with 20 mins labour . Then we used to keep the car for 3 days and tell the customer, "oh timing chain nearly killed your whole car but because I found the issue that is 1500 to fix before it blows up" 😂😂😂😂 next time you have any sort of problem with a car. Go to more than 1 mechanic I guarantee you will be quoted different prices and different "problems" 😂
This is like watching a record player skip.
gonna have to check this tomorrow , going to test drive a 2009 E60 5 series with that damn N47 Diesel in it , was hoping it was the older one , but the LCI models seem to have this one in it , is maintained in showroom condition tho , thats the reason i'm looking at it , but 149000 kilometers on the clock , so this could be an issue right about now if it has not been changed in the past.
we do have a one year warranty on 2nd hand cars here in belgium , but still if it breaks , i doubt they'll own up to it
Just make sure it got all oil changes done, i wouldnt be scared to buy a N47 as long as its been taken care of. I did 470000 km with a N47 then the gearbox blew and i scrapped it. But i never had a single problem with it
@@dpayne8611 Good night, I live in Finland. After my pejom broke down and went to scrap, my father-in-law offered to sell me a 2009 model BMW 520D for 7000 euros. The car has 250000 kilometers and has a 2-liter diesel engine with 177 horsepower (N47 engine). He said he did this so we could have a good, reliable car. It is said on the internet that the chain should be changed periodically around 150,000 kilometers. He hasn't changed the engine chain yet, but his car looks really well-maintained and clean. and I know that if the chain breaks the engine can fail. Do you think it's risky to buy this car? I wanted to ask your opinion.
Before 0:25 after 1:26
I can't hear anything before or after. I swear most of the time people are just being paranoid
🤷🏼♂️
I dont hear the difference before and after ... Sorry
Nothing change :D :D :D :D
Brak różnicy
there is no differenc dude
1.000.000km ? 😁