+shadedoom I suspect companies intentionally wait until memes are already dead, or on the verge of being dead before are willing to use them. This is because a meme is pretty much on its way out when everyone has seen it before, but advertisers know that in order for you to get the joke you have to have seen the meme already. By waiting till the meme is dead they know everyone is going to understand the reference, even if it's not really funny anymore as a result.
The reason memes aren't funny is because the amount of time it takes for them to become popular is more than the amount of the amount of time it takes for them to become overdone. Repetition is the death of comedy. Even the funniest joke you've ever heard loses it's impact if it gets told to you 10 times in a row. Internet memes are by definition the same gag being told over and over and over again. So by the time the meme gets popular enough to be spread around the internet, you've already head the same joke THOUSANDS of times.
I disagree with you on a few core things. Repetition is, by no means, the death of comedy. A lot of the times a joke is even funier when you've already heard it. Thing is it has to be good in order to work. And probably most importantly, have nice timing. I'd say bad comedy is the death of funny repetition. Internet memes, I'd say, are by definition "a recognizible thing being repeated over and over", but the gags are not the same. They can build on top of the same meme, mix with others or even coment on itself to make the joke and still be, in my opinion, the same meme. But when people with no comedic sense take image macros as a way of "funyfing" their jokes or upload the first thing that comes to mind, Internet comedy dies.
When do memes start becoming unfunny and annoying? When being taken out of the original context they were born in. Then it becomes someone's attempt to force a reference into a situation where it wasn't supposed to go in the first place.
Nana nani There was a time they were funny, but that was almost certainly back before they had become memes, back when they were just fun little pics with puns attached that weren't circulating around all over.
Nani Gee Sorry to burst your bubble but humor is a purely subjective concept and people are allowed to think things are funny even if they don't align with your sense of humor.
Sarfaraz Hussein Yeah, unfortunately, there is. It involves a bubblegum bubble exploding all over a kid's face. Honestly, I was hoping for something more witty, like zoom shot of a Wall Street banker at the start of the housing market crash.
the thing about classic jokes is that even though they often have a bunch of familiar formats (knock knock, englishman irishman scotsman, etc) but the punchline and direction of the joke is always different, so the surprise of the punchline is always there to make it funny. a jokes humour is in its suspense and the anticipation it creates in its audience, waiting for that moment where the punchline is delivered and the joke is wrapped up into one merry conclusion. memes are like jokes where you always know what the punchline is going to be. it is like a joke that spoils itself. it completely takes away the anticipation of what the humour is and so it ruins the spontaneity of laughter and mirth because you ALREADY KNOW that is going to be very laugh much wow. memes are like the laugh track of the internet.
I've been on the internet around 10 years, aware of memes around 7. And I still find most of them funny. To me it's like the joke keeps taking on more and more meaning and gets more complex the more of it there is. Then again, I did get sick of rage faces after following the rage face comic reddit board for a while. Also bacon and nutella for the same reasons.
Agreed, a lot of memes are still really funny. What urks me though, about both rage faces and memes on occasion, is when they start to intrude on natural life. There are very few people who I hear make internet references in daily conversation that don't make me cringe.
***** Troll face and other rage faces were *born* old. Just like using hashtags outside Twitter. (You aren't guilty of that sin, but others here are.) For me hashtags denote ircchannels and irchannels only. Now I can't talk about an irchannel anywhere else because the silly sites understand it as a hashtag. Duh!
memes were never funny. It encouraged stupidity and prevented originality. The irony was that those who reused memes were doing so in an attempt to be "hip", but in the process actually declared themselves witless and unoriginal.
Sean Grady Oh, prepare for the "Replying to yourself" hate. It's vicious. Good luck bro, I'll try and protect you if you ask intelligently and politely.
Sean Grady Well, it was the term "trolling" that was invented, but the actual act itself was not invented on the internet. Heck I still do that all the time by giving some friends false Russian translations for English words, Problem is internet "trolling" has developed into something that's mainly negative and simply unfunny and sometimes even borderlines (cyber)bullying.
For me it is people constantly posting them on Facebook. They are funny, but when people go overboard it is annoying - to the point I delete them. The irony is with people constantly posting the same crap: The girls that post they don't need man - actually crave it. The people that talk about living life, don't. Those that post about how they don't care what people thing, actually do. etc etc etc.
By knowing what a meme in it's origin is you can realize that indeed is...lets say... unlikely for memes to disapear completely as they are constructs of the human to comunicate a message that can be understood by everyone. Just as it happens IRL we build, find, use signs, simbols and make a language to comunicate. The Ok, the middle finger, shake your hand in the air, a salute o7, etc. Are pieces of information that you can understand even when I dont explain to you where or when it originated. As just as with memes on internet, sometimes there are misinterpretations and etc. I think the thing here is that we are thinking of memes as objects that spawn on Internet but they are creations of the users on it. As I see it, as long as there's people (Online or IRL) there'll be memes.
I think you really hit the nail on the head with regards to spontaneous humor vs. telling jokes - and that memes now seem almost like people trying too hard/telling old jokes. I'm curious why you didn't cover the original meaning of meme (which this 'funny picture' definition barely glosses) I think _that_ meaning conveys a lot more interest.
As my Dad would say, 'It was funny the first time'. For me, that has a lot to do with it. I don't find a 'yo dawg' joke for instance, funny more than once. But that isn't the whole story. Because what irritates me even more than a 'yo dawg' joke being repeated is a 'yo dawg' joke written on a picture of happy keanu. I think for the majority of people that is where the frustration lies. The people who are involved in 4chan and the likes have often contributed to the success of these memes. They feel a sense of ownership, and rightly so. They were maybe introverted people who found solace in the online community and feel proud of their combined creation. So when the popular girl uses their meme on Facebook for the four hundredth time, and incorrectly, they feel as if she is trying to invade their world and their community. And that she's taking the value out of what they've created. I'll tell you something. That would annoy me.
I would get annoyed too, but at the same time, I wouldn't broaden my hate towards the internet as whole. The kind of person you're talking about has existed since the beginning of social interactions, and usually doesn't have much influence, so I wouldn't keep hating her for more than a couple of minutes
The internet seems to have a quicker aging cycle. It's in it's own time loop where everything ages at 3x quicker or more. Whereas old shows, while seeming dated still are enjoyable.
I think with memes there's a progression similar to pop music: When you first encounter something new it's weird and you're not sure how to react. Not sure if it annoys you or you like it. As your familiarity grows, so does your understanding. It becomes "your jam" and you feel connected to people that like it. Then you encounter it one too many times. Someone at work mentions it. Your mom quotes it. The news does a piece on it. And your special piece of happiness is ripped away from you, far too soon. RIP in peace.
Yeah, but they're very different because of the mediums you receive them from. Popular songs are strategically made popular by radio gods trying to get listeners, and it spreads from the people who are infected. The internet however relies on people to actively spread something to a place you visit. It's actually rather ironic. The radio is much more voluntary to visit, but songs are more likely to be shoved down your throat if you don't want them. Songs have distinct stages that they have to go through to become popular, so they take much longer to peak, but since memes come from people, they typically will pop up much longer after their birth than songs without major effects to their connotation. Finally, I'll disagree that you don't know exactly how to react to memes. With the community aspect of the internet, you're rarely given long alone with a meme before being exposed to the biases of others. A song will have that period between its birth and popularity spike that you can make your own mind on it before being drowned in it. Memes don't really have that.
hmmm wasn't aware memes stop being funny - if they are used in the wrong occasions then they just aren't funny, like a bad punchline. But when used in the right moment, they can still be pretty damn funny - even the older ones.
I've been doing stand-up for years now; what I've noticed is that tokens of jokes get old but types don't. Being told exactly the same joke over and over gets old, and maybe some memes get old fast because most tokens of them are too similar. Most doges are pretty similar, for instance; so are most harlem shakes. But a new riff on an established type can get big laughs. Like a comic basically doing the old "my kid says the darndest things" routine or the "my partner thinks differently from me" is an old type, but when told with a new spin or a refreshing angle they can be really funny. That's why "What's the deal with airline food?" is totally dead but observational comedy, i.e. "What's the deal with X?" is still a thing. Tokens age; types live on.
Internet memes stopped being _as_ funny when they stopped being memes and devolved into simple jokes. The idea of a meme is that it references prior knowledge, and it should inherently be an inside joke. Over familiarity with sad keanu, rage face and doge means they have lost their organic, anarchic origins and have just become another trope alongside insipid inspirational quotes.
If anything, I find it's the reverse. It'll start as a simple joke or just something that's funny taken out of context (you dun goofed, an hero, arrow to the knee) which people find funny, then it gains traction and gets passed around, misinterpreted, picked apart to death, and documented as a meme. It becoming a meme kills the joke.
Yeah, they started to grow up. Now it's more of a relation to what you experienced when you were younger, such as over 9000 or shoop da whoop for me, while others (probably middle schoolers) still like rage memes.
The answer is never! Memes NEVER stop being funny! They age with a wonderful spammy patina. As touched upon in the video, it's a shared cultural reference, one that can transcend generations in a way that old media references aren't always capable of, because they aren't locked into a single event in time. I'm looking at you, "Dewey Defeats Truman!"
You're the type of people who try to make statistics and science out of memes... they're just images that get thrown around so much by cancerous websites like RUclips Tumblr Reddit and 9gag so much that they move on to the next thing but if someone still finds it funny... i mean what can we do.
Ava Archie >"...try to make statistics and science out of memes..." >Not knowing that the word "meme" was invented by a scientist to help describe the evolutionary principles of ideas and how they spread. I shig
Because it has been done to death. Because on every facet of media there are memes. And these memes even invade serious things, like Abortion and Gay rights, then it becomes either more hated because the person disagrees or the person that agrees will feel bad as well because, its a meme that expressed that. My 2 cents memes are becoming like commercials!
Why memes are interesting sometimes: When I am watching the history channel, and "Ancient Aliens" comes on, I laugh and continue watching. Then, with my friends, I go "Aliens." and do the hand gesture. If they get it, it was really funny. If they don't, not so funny. Why memes are really stupid most times: (let me come up with a great example) Someone posts on facebook: "Where has that missing jet plane gone?" "Aliens." Dozens of people like and share this post without even knowing why that person is famous for claiming that aliens did something. For real.
Wasn't aware we were supposed to not like memes. Sure, some get a little boring after time, but so do just regular phrases. I view memes as part of the language of the internet. Like all languages, if you don't know what the word means, you don't understand the message. If you don't understand what a meme is referring to, you miss said message. Memes are a way of quickly conveying an idea by visual means, as do words. Modern hieroglyphs if you will. So, why should we be getting tired of words. The more words there are, the richer the language. Enjoy.
Meme's used to convey someones opinions thoughts and whatnot or for satire are funny. What isn't funny is when they just get slapped onto anything in an attempt to try and be funny on purpose. I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense but think of it as comparing a legitimate irony or witty remark vs forced humor. This is how an "Arrow to the knee" died out so quickly and became so hated because people weren't even using it for the sake of making a point or anything, the subject could've been completely unrelated or not really worth noting and yet someone would always leave a comment or image with an arrow to the knee line.
Personally I don't get tired of a Meme unless it's really annoying or just stupid and not funny. However plenty of memes actually are funny, and as long as they're used properly and in an appropriate situation, I love them. A properly placed meme can be one of the funniest things ever, even the old ones. The same is true for any type of joke or 'funny' thing. The way I see this issue, generally people who hate memes are like hipsters or haters. They hate for the sake of hating. They've created an issue that doesn't even need to exist. People can hate badly used memes, or annoying memes, but don't hate on them just because their old. They're an important part of our internet culture and it's history.
Spot on! It very quickly goes from being cool to quote a meme to being cool to hate on people that quote the same meme. I was laughing at arrow in the knee long after people got "sick" of it and I still appreciate a good doge. Then again, some people just enjoy hating memes, which is fine too I guess.
So I suppose in a sense internet memes are similar to puns, often considered to be one of the worst forms of humor, yet occasionally (when used cleverly) devastatingly hilarious.
A meme doesn't pass depending on a hard science, though people generally will get tired of it fairly quickly. Though the whole Gangnam Style thing lasted MONTHS (about half a year in fact) culminating in Psy's presence on American TV. Also, memes can still be funny if they're used 'past their expiration date' and sometimes bringing an old meme can be funny considering people may not expect to see it anymore.
Memes are internet slang. Intuitively I have always seen memes as a unique language or dialect of the internet. The internet facilitates the transfer of ideas through a complex set of signifiers and signs that are sometimes textual, and sometimes not. Either way, though, a clear message is being communicated by one person and read by others. I would argue that memes don't even need to be funny to be memes. This isn't so much about comedy as about culture, sub-culture and dialect. Users are able to mix and remix audio, static and cycling images, video and the unique culture context of the cyberspace that a comparatively small group of people inhabits and understands. You could refer to memes as a sort of internet "slang", unique not to "this generation", but rather anyone who inhabits that space. If we're looking at memes through the lens of "slang", it can be argued that people who inhabit cyberspace and are familiar with the language have the same feelings of revulsion a young person from a different era would have at listening to a parent or adult in a position of authority using the word "groovy", even if it were during the peak of it's cultural relevance.
My theory is simple. The reason the more popular memes wear out quicker is for the same reason you get tired of a song if you hear it over and over again. It becomes annoying, and you don't want to come in contact with it again.
That's an interesting point! Even more interesting of you consider the role remixing plays in both music and image macro's. It's the only way to really renew their former glory after their popularity has waned.
I think it's simply that we consume too much too fast, kinda like how a song reaches huge popularity and fades out quickly because we all get so sick of it.
Agreed, but there's definitely more to it. I can take my underground Quasimoto album and replay that WAY more than I hear Ke$ha or Li'l Wayne... but the second I hear my brothers playing it from their mono stereo, I'm completely sick of it. Same thing happened with Tyler, the Creator, too. I think it has to do with purpose. The purpose of LISTENING TO pop Ke$ha songs, etc., is exactly the same reason to subscribe to a currently famous meme: to gain traction in current culture. The reason to hate either is just the opposite: realizing that you are no longer gaining traction in popular culture. (I should also note that following the crowd isn't necessarily what I mean. It has more to do with looking better in the face of a popular crowd. Sometimes, that means listening to Ke$ha, sometimes that means blasting underground rap that no one has heard of.)
Jadden Norman That`s a good point, gaining the popularity is kind of like the snowball effect. some people like it and share it and then because of the following it gains more followers, and so on. but I think the reason why it is hated so quickly afterwards is similar to a stock market crash. It reaches it`s peak gradually until it is heard so often we all get sick of leading to a rapid decline in popularity.
I can't decide if the people getting raucously angry over memes should seek out some kind of charity or hobby to focus their currently pointless passion on instead.... or continue to stay where they are because otherwise they would get in productive people's way. The fellow interneters have done nothing to you.... that you have not done to yourself.
I don't get upset by internet memes normally, I get upset when internet memes are used incorrectly. People break the template and put any kind of words on any picture and post it and that itself is rage inducing.. And my wife..
One of the things that make some memes quickly aggravating to see plastered on every form of social media you go on is that some can be seen as a kind of 'in-joke' with certain websites and their culture. Seeing something genuinely funny made and contained on one website then see it leaked out, posted over and over makes it kind of...lose it's meaning and what made it funny. I mean, seeing something made on a website as chaotic and deprived as 4chan being posted on facebook by your old aunt in Minnesota is kind of...jarring, aint it?
For me, a meme or joke is either funny, or it's not. Very rarely do I find something funny and eventually tire of it or have something previously unfunny become funny.
surprisingly I don't feel at all that memes are annoying, I don't cringe or groan or rage at them; I embrace them as part of internet culture and even enjoy them most of the time, not just that but I don't know anyone who hates memes, so hearing about the hate in this video is actually news to me...
Am I the only person who think that some internet meme's doesn't have a "Har har har humor" in it? I mean yeah, memes can be used annoyingly if no creativity is put into it. I think some internet meme's are used just to make a point. If I say on a FB status, "How do I get a girlfriend?". A person could respond with a meme: "One does not simply get a girlfriend". Well you see, that could be humorous while at the same time answering my question and understanding the my friend's expression at the same time. I mean it doesn't even have to be funny. It's just like smily faces at sometimes. Humor is humor, subjective. I don't find all meme's funny. The "arrow to the knee" meme was so annoying to me. The obsessed GF wasn't funny to me either. Heck, I grew up with LOLcats and I find a smile on my face when I see a humorous one- not all meme users are kids. Just the way they world works: Things that aren't attractive to you are probably attractive to someone else.
not even worked up. All I said was they're both covering topics that are broad and non-researched by you, or most people in general since they're secondary thoughts. Also that they have beards. Calm down I'm just stating the obvious as well
Marcus Nelson well the fact that you said it in a condescending manner, "that you would have never been able to think of" shows your heightened aggressiveness towards someone who merely stated their opinion. If you can't handle someone being judgmental towards your biggest idol then you need to get off the internet.
No you're implying that over your personal interpretation of what I was saying. How would you even know my specific emotional intention with that comment from monotone text? I apologize I didn't specifically say "you and most people including myself." That was heightened aggression, not my original comment. If you can't handle being wrong then you need to get off the internet.
I feel like even when memes lose their humor, they can still become a part of the vocabulary of the Internet. For example, when I leave a comment on someone's Facebook post, I might say "one does not simply ______" and fill in the blank with the appropriate response. This use of the lexicon may not be outwardly "funny," per se, but it can display a sort of internet savviness by acknowledging a common phrase, almost like being able to use idioms when speaking in a particular language. Notice how the final sentence of this comment makes you feel; it's not intended to be "funny," but should still get a reaction out of your brain in some way. And if you're impressed with this insight, then you should know that this isn't even my final form. ^CG
I think it's the fact that memes are spontaneous humor when they're first born and start spawning, but once they become popular enough to be called an internet meme, they aren't spontaneous anymore, therefore they aren't humorous anymore. Plus with things like tv, radio, magazines, and politicians using the overly popular memes, to me, memes have always felt like an inside joke to whichever community spawned them. It'd be like the word "spoons" having special meaning to your group of friends and it always makes everyone laugh, but then someone outside the group just goes "Spoons! haha I'm funny right? I'm a cool kid now" and then everything feels awkward.
And redditors keep thinking they are the king of comedy and shit. It's so annoying how redditors try so hard to be funny by churning out some of the stupidest memes and they think they are the kings of comedy
Memes die when they become popular on Facebook. Look at MLG Montage Parodies, and Doge, and image macros. Facebook killed all of those memes. The meme becomes old or stale when it gets overrused or ruined by Facebook users.
OwlCreekFims dank just means damp it doesn't have anything to do with drugs though the word is often associated with marijuana, which isn't a drug, it is a plant. the drug is Tetrahydrocannabinol. Furthermore, you say all drugs are bad yet Jesus says let the man who is without sin throw the first stone. So i am going to list off some drugs, tell me if you don't take any of them. ibuprofen, tylenol, advil, sugar, dextrose, glucose, caffeine, nicotine, sucrose, alcohol, dihydrogen monoxide.
Honestly, I love seeing old, worn out memes. They just feel nostalgic, and it makes me smile how something so small can grow to mean so much and then nothing to everyone. The only meme that needs to die are the Minions, and that's because I'm sick of seeing them on my relatives' Facebook feed masquerading as enjoyable content
Well, now that this video is a few years old i can now add somthing, Memes can come back. Oddly enough It seems a really old meme can come back as a way to purposefully annoy. As well as be used ironically. Bringing memes back into focus.
To answer the question [late I presume?]: for me, I don't really understand the hate. I laugh at most memes I encounter, and if I somehow start tiring of one, I simply don't read/view it. I think you got into this with the ambiguous "are we being forced to see them if the internet is a public place"... but for me it's really that simple.
Anonymous (ID: /dtaSzje) 04/12/14(Sat)18:21:18 UTC+2 No.541906181 >when do memes stop being funny >implying memes are funny to begin with this anon is right
Maybe I'm alone in thinking so, but this episode just seemed like an angry hipster ranting "I liked memes *before* they were cool." Internet memes can still be plenty fun; the fact that they're more mainstream than they once were does not make them ruined or worthy of scorn.
Truly, it is impossible to say when something stops being funny, because there will always be groups of people who continue to love it or stop loving it first. However, memes tend to age well, like songs that you love do much that you listen to them until you can't stand them any longer. Nostalgia is powerful, an over used joke or reference to something from pop culture in the 80's gets tons of love from people who were fans back then, even if they grew to hate it. Like everything else, the rule of 'too much of a good thing' applies to internet memes.
personally, I think memes go through multiple "phases": 1. the meme is brand new, no one knows what it is yet. usually very short 2. the meme rapidly gains in popularity. 3. the meme has reached its peak fame and enjoyable-ness (depending on how "good" the meme is, phase 2 and 3 can last longer or shorter) 4. the meme starts to decline in popularity, people get tired of it 5. the meme is now horrid and disgusting. it brings shame upon any who use it 6. usually a few months or a year later, it reaches a neutral stage. some people like it, some people don't, it's mostly just ordinary OR 6. the meme remains in the 5th stage anyone want to add anything?
TL;DR : Some memes moved on from being jokes to being internet short hand for conveying a whole concept in itself. Some memes have transcended their original meanings though. One could make an example similar to the emoticon, or hash-tags. Emoticons are useful ways to convey the tone of a text. Choice of words is one way, but there is a massive gulf in the way you'd interpret a e-mail from your boss saying "Are the TPS reports done yet?" if it includes a smiley at the end. Emoticons came into being because they needed to be there and made life easier. Now memes are a bit of a different thing. They're regurgitated jokes, but once they served their purpose, the meaning of the joke (i.e. the Troll-face, the i-know-i-will-fail enthusiasm of "all the things" etc.) took a life of their own and can now be used as a short hand for conveying the meaning of a text instead of writing it out. Once can just as well just copy-paste the ASCII-art of a troll face instead of writing: "I was merely trying to aggravate you in a puckish attempt at humor". I foresee the hash-tag following the same trajectory. It's a useful thing to show what should be read between the lines, since -once again- tone can't be conveyed easily through text. The difference between writing "I'm having cookies at the hotel" followed by a hash-tag with either "luxury life" or "imfeedingmydiabetus" completely changes the interpretation of your words.
He's like the guy who comes over to your apartment to hang out on a mellow Friday night with some friends, and after smoking a joint, he just CAN'T STOP TALKING.
Memes stop being funny the first couple of times they are used. They're just joke templates for unfunny people with no imagination. Or, inside jokes for people with no life. Either one. Not a whole lot of discussion is necessary here.
Not quite. Meme's generally (if used properly) are a template for expressing an idea or a joke in a fashion that takes less time, is more spontaneous - And oftenly making the person more able to relate to it - If it ties into the joke. While, yes, it does require the reciever to know of the Meme - The same can be said for any recipient of a joke. The person must be familiar and willing to recieve of the format of the joke - Otherwise they won't be responsive as in ; they will have no idea what you are talking about. So, ignorance and hate aside - You are simply wrong.
CrazyPoochification You do have a good point. After all, a meme can be successful if done right. Problem is, a lot of people don't do it right. And the overuse causes said joke to become stale much quicker. Any person with a decent sense of humor and/or imagination would have moved on to pursue more funny jokes. But then there is a chunk of the community that still latches onto these month old memes. These people are unfunny. Granted, the same can be said about any joke. If I have to hear one more idiot say "that's what she said", I'm going to break something.
Adv3nturePrime I do understand what demographic of people you are talking about. They are generally unfunny in most circumstances or lack some of the core understanding to what makes a joke good - such as timing, expression of choise of meme. Overall though - Yes, there is a overuse of Meme's that become so watered down that they in the end yield no real humorous value ; because they have been overdone in a poorly made fashion. But perhaps these kinds of people thrive on the value of the trolling - or maybe they relish only on their own humor given from the idea ; i would not know. At any rate, i wish you well and that you get to avoid infuriating meme's.
I think people just inflate the hate, cause it's apparently cool to hate that popular thing- that hipster counter-pop pride expressed by fake contempt for it.
Internet memes stop being funny the moment they hit: 9gag, Facebook, Tumblr, iFunny, and Meme generator and RUclips. Although Reddit isn't all too great, it's not as bad as the other websites. Generally, a lot of shit comes from 4chan and gets reported on other websites. Like the Shrek video for example, it was a "thing" on 4chan's /b/ months ago... WELL it wasn't necessarily a video, it was actually a grentext story... now it's a thing on Reddit Tumblr and RUclips. Also LMAO the mad people.
Well this is my first time watching the channel. I'm hooked. [Your format is something I would love to do. Perhaps I'll be able to one day soon!] Cheers all!
This brings up interesting questions about the evolution of memes (I'm coming at this from the perspective of biological evolution and natural selection). Let's say a meme is declared "passé" on Reddit, which as a platform where up and down votes determine the success of content, gives us a very real score of a meme's fitness (it's success/popularity/subjective humor) in that population… but in that population only. If that meme is transferred to a new population (say, if one's grandmother just found out about LOLcats), then it is subject to entirely different set of feedback, which, if it's a population of old ladies on Facebook who love cats, might prove to be incredibly successful to your grandma's social status and success of that meme's spread… but again, only in that population. That new population may even modify the meme to their own desires, a change which would be downvoted out of the original population and which would bring on ALL TEH RAGE, but may actually benefit the meme in the new population. Someone's blanket declaration of memes as "passé" internet-wide almost certainly stems from the fact that the meme is unfit for their group, and trying to impose that selection on a distant group. It would be like toucans telling polar bears that because they'd never make it in the tropics, they might as well go ahead and just die already. I'm not sure that the fact that the internet is theoretically "connected" means that everything is subject to the same rules and cultural selection everywhere all the time.
memes truly die when companies use them in commercials and ads
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+shadedoom I suspect companies intentionally wait until memes are already dead, or on the verge of being dead before are willing to use them. This is because a meme is pretty much on its way out when everyone has seen it before, but advertisers know that in order for you to get the joke you have to have seen the meme already. By waiting till the meme is dead they know everyone is going to understand the reference, even if it's not really funny anymore as a result.
The reason memes aren't funny is because the amount of time it takes for them to become popular is more than the amount of the amount of time it takes for them to become overdone.
Repetition is the death of comedy. Even the funniest joke you've ever heard loses it's impact if it gets told to you 10 times in a row. Internet memes are by definition the same gag being told over and over and over again. So by the time the meme gets popular enough to be spread around the internet, you've already head the same joke THOUSANDS of times.
I disagree with you on a few core things. Repetition is, by no means, the death of comedy. A lot of the times a joke is even funier when you've already heard it. Thing is it has to be good in order to work. And probably most importantly, have nice timing. I'd say bad comedy is the death of funny repetition.
Internet memes, I'd say, are by definition "a recognizible thing being repeated over and over", but the gags are not the same. They can build on top of the same meme, mix with others or even coment on itself to make the joke and still be, in my opinion, the same meme. But when people with no comedic sense take image macros as a way of "funyfing" their jokes or upload the first thing that comes to mind, Internet comedy dies.
@@Arkhansyd life is not ONLY about fun.thats just childish,memes have destroyed peoples lifes.people cant be normal in comment section anymore.
@@Arkhansyd You're making a mistake. The lazy part is putting text into photo of a person, animal, or a cartoon character.
Memes die when Nickelodeon uses them.
Truth
I Personally Disfavor The Whole Enchilada Especially Wendy's
Make I personally disfavor mars bars
Rip dude
When do memes start becoming unfunny and annoying? When being taken out of the original context they were born in. Then it becomes someone's attempt to force a reference into a situation where it wasn't supposed to go in the first place.
jack squatt Sorry to burst your bubble but they were never fucking funny
Nana nani
There was a time they were funny, but that was almost certainly back before they had become memes, back when they were just fun little pics with puns attached that weren't circulating around all over.
Nani Gee Sorry to burst your bubble but humor is a purely subjective concept and people are allowed to think things are funny even if they don't align with your sense of humor.
jack squatt Is there a bubble bursting meme?
Sarfaraz Hussein
Yeah, unfortunately, there is. It involves a bubblegum bubble exploding all over a kid's face. Honestly, I was hoping for something more witty, like zoom shot of a Wall Street banker at the start of the housing market crash.
the thing about classic jokes is that even though they often have a bunch of familiar formats (knock knock, englishman irishman scotsman, etc) but the punchline and direction of the joke is always different, so the surprise of the punchline is always there to make it funny. a jokes humour is in its suspense and the anticipation it creates in its audience, waiting for that moment where the punchline is delivered and the joke is wrapped up into one merry conclusion.
memes are like jokes where you always know what the punchline is going to be. it is like a joke that spoils itself. it completely takes away the anticipation of what the humour is and so it ruins the spontaneity of laughter and mirth because you ALREADY KNOW that is going to be very laugh much wow. memes are like the laugh track of the internet.
"When Do Memes Stop Being Funny?" That would require them to be funny in ther first place.
You must be fun at parties.
Why, yes. Yes, I am.
How ironic
I've been on the internet around 10 years, aware of memes around 7. And I still find most of them funny. To me it's like the joke keeps taking on more and more meaning and gets more complex the more of it there is. Then again, I did get sick of rage faces after following the rage face comic reddit board for a while. Also bacon and nutella for the same reasons.
Agreed, a lot of memes are still really funny. What urks me though, about both rage faces and memes on occasion, is when they start to intrude on natural life. There are very few people who I hear make internet references in daily conversation that don't make me cringe.
Nice to see your take on the subject, Digi
Agreed, I still find many memes funny if they are used in clever ways. Some I am pretty sick of though. XD
***** Troll face and other rage faces were *born* old. Just like using hashtags outside Twitter. (You aren't guilty of that sin, but others here are.) For me hashtags denote ircchannels and irchannels only. Now I can't talk about an irchannel anywhere else because the silly sites understand it as a hashtag. Duh!
Hello digibro!! Been a while!
memes were never funny. It encouraged stupidity and prevented originality. The irony was that those who reused memes were doing so in an attempt to be "hip", but in the process actually declared themselves witless and unoriginal.
I want to add trolling to that as well. Getting tired of this forced nerd culture too.
Sean Grady then I look at myself with my selfie hmmmmmm yeah,,, I hate myself now too
Sean Grady Oh, prepare for the "Replying to yourself" hate. It's vicious. Good luck bro, I'll try and protect you if you ask intelligently and politely.
Sean Grady Well, it was the term "trolling" that was invented, but the actual act itself was not invented on the internet. Heck I still do that all the time by giving some friends false Russian translations for English words, Problem is internet "trolling" has developed into something that's mainly negative and simply unfunny and sometimes even borderlines (cyber)bullying.
Well said and I agree 100%
I used to love memes but then I took an arrow to the knee.
-__-
***** So you hated memes after you got married? what happened with that?
***** >meme arrow to the knee
***** Oh no.... this killed me lol
For me it is people constantly posting them on Facebook. They are funny, but when people go overboard it is annoying - to the point I delete them.
The irony is with people constantly posting the same crap: The girls that post they don't need man - actually crave it. The people that talk about living life, don't. Those that post about how they don't care what people thing, actually do. etc etc etc.
Yup, that's why I say fuck facebook and social networks in general. RUclips comments are the exception- they don't matter. :P
Internet memes are never going away.
See you in a few years again.
YuukoDreams New memes show up... I promise.
Agreed. I still like many older memes.
By knowing what a meme in it's origin is you can realize that indeed is...lets say... unlikely for memes to disapear completely as they are constructs of the human to comunicate a message that can be understood by everyone.
Just as it happens IRL we build, find, use signs, simbols and make a language to comunicate.
The Ok, the middle finger, shake your hand in the air, a salute o7, etc. Are pieces of information that you can understand even when I dont explain to you where or when it originated. As just as with memes on internet, sometimes there are misinterpretations and etc.
I think the thing here is that we are thinking of memes as objects that spawn on Internet but they are creations of the users on it.
As I see it, as long as there's people (Online or IRL) there'll be memes.
"Meme" is so last year.
Too late, PBS.
I think you really hit the nail on the head with regards to spontaneous humor vs. telling jokes - and that memes now seem almost like people trying too hard/telling old jokes.
I'm curious why you didn't cover the original meaning of meme (which this 'funny picture' definition barely glosses) I think _that_ meaning conveys a lot more interest.
When do "memes" stop being funny? About two hours after I've seen it the first time.
As my Dad would say, 'It was funny the first time'.
For me, that has a lot to do with it. I don't find a 'yo dawg' joke for instance, funny more than once.
But that isn't the whole story. Because what irritates me even more than a 'yo dawg' joke being repeated is a 'yo dawg' joke written on a picture of happy keanu.
I think for the majority of people that is where the frustration lies. The people who are involved in 4chan and the likes have often contributed to the success of these memes. They feel a sense of ownership, and rightly so. They were maybe introverted people who found solace in the online community and feel proud of their combined creation. So when the popular girl uses their meme on Facebook for the four hundredth time, and incorrectly, they feel as if she is trying to invade their world and their community. And that she's taking the value out of what they've created. I'll tell you something.
That would annoy me.
"Oh no, people are liking something I made! God, why is everyone such a dick?"
Erick Hernandez it's not so much that they like it. I think it's to do with their hijacking and misuse of it.
I would get annoyed too, but at the same time, I wouldn't broaden my hate towards the internet as whole. The kind of person you're talking about has existed since the beginning of social interactions, and usually doesn't have much influence, so I wouldn't keep hating her for more than a couple of minutes
Erick Hernandez She most certainly does have influence. I don't like it but she doea.
The internet seems to have a quicker aging cycle. It's in it's own time loop where everything ages at 3x quicker or more. Whereas old shows, while seeming dated still are enjoyable.
You know a joke is dead when your teacher or your mom says it.
Depends on the teacher. For example, my old high school US History and Government teachers were pretty cool.
Or your 11 year old nephew says it
Jesus Christ this comment is 8 years old??
It definitely dies whenever a news outlet says it. It quite literally suffocates the meme by flagging it with a political ideology.
I think with memes there's a progression similar to pop music:
When you first encounter something new it's weird and you're not sure how to react.
Not sure if it annoys you or you like it.
As your familiarity grows, so does your understanding.
It becomes "your jam" and you feel connected to people that like it.
Then you encounter it one too many times.
Someone at work mentions it.
Your mom quotes it.
The news does a piece on it.
And your special piece of happiness is ripped away from you, far too soon.
RIP in peace.
Yeah, but they're very different because of the mediums you receive them from.
Popular songs are strategically made popular by radio gods trying to get listeners, and it spreads from the people who are infected.
The internet however relies on people to actively spread something to a place you visit.
It's actually rather ironic. The radio is much more voluntary to visit, but songs are more likely to be shoved down your throat if you don't want them. Songs have distinct stages that they have to go through to become popular, so they take much longer to peak, but since memes come from people, they typically will pop up much longer after their birth than songs without major effects to their connotation.
Finally, I'll disagree that you don't know exactly how to react to memes. With the community aspect of the internet, you're rarely given long alone with a meme before being exposed to the biases of others. A song will have that period between its birth and popularity spike that you can make your own mind on it before being drowned in it. Memes don't really have that.
I actually like internet memes, as long as their used properly. See: Adding something funny and not just repeating something to sound cool.
This is a good representative of a good usage of memes. If you are going to repeat, it will become unfunny.
Yeah
3 minutes in and it felt like 20.
hmmm wasn't aware memes stop being funny - if they are used in the wrong occasions then they just aren't funny, like a bad punchline.
But when used in the right moment, they can still be pretty damn funny - even the older ones.
Never got tired of "Allllrighty then"
RE-HE-HE-ALLLLY?
I've been doing stand-up for years now; what I've noticed is that tokens of jokes get old but types don't. Being told exactly the same joke over and over gets old, and maybe some memes get old fast because most tokens of them are too similar. Most doges are pretty similar, for instance; so are most harlem shakes. But a new riff on an established type can get big laughs. Like a comic basically doing the old "my kid says the darndest things" routine or the "my partner thinks differently from me" is an old type, but when told with a new spin or a refreshing angle they can be really funny. That's why "What's the deal with airline food?" is totally dead but observational comedy, i.e. "What's the deal with X?" is still a thing. Tokens age; types live on.
The "Help I can't swim ! - Just fake it !" joke actually made my day !
Memes die the moment they are born.
Default User So they travel at light speed.
They travel at the speed of sound.
60s Spiderman memes never get old. NEVER.
True
Internet memes stopped being _as_ funny when they stopped being memes and devolved into simple jokes. The idea of a meme is that it references prior knowledge, and it should inherently be an inside joke. Over familiarity with sad keanu, rage face and doge means they have lost their organic, anarchic origins and have just become another trope alongside insipid inspirational quotes.
This. Couldn't have said it better myself.
If anything, I find it's the reverse. It'll start as a simple joke or just something that's funny taken out of context (you dun goofed, an hero, arrow to the knee) which people find funny, then it gains traction and gets passed around, misinterpreted, picked apart to death, and documented as a meme. It becoming a meme kills the joke.
I laughed at every meme in this video. I'm also the kind of guy who goes to the same place and orders the same thing every time I'm hungry.
Wait... There's people who don't like memes?
I think they're the people who think facebook is the internet and who still buy CD's... Well to you people I have but one question... will it blend?
I was asking that same question 10 seconds into the video..
Yeah, they started to grow up. Now it's more of a relation to what you experienced when you were younger, such as over 9000 or shoop da whoop for me, while others (probably middle schoolers) still like rage memes.
RIGHT!
Yes because memes are cancer whenever they're used incorrectly, and they're almost always used incorrectly.
The answer is never! Memes NEVER stop being funny! They age with a wonderful spammy patina.
As touched upon in the video, it's a shared cultural reference, one that can transcend generations in a way that old media references aren't always capable of, because they aren't locked into a single event in time. I'm looking at you, "Dewey Defeats Truman!"
You're the type of people who try to make statistics and science out of memes... they're just images that get thrown around so much by cancerous websites like RUclips Tumblr Reddit and 9gag so much that they move on to the next thing
but if someone still finds it funny... i mean what can we do.
Ava Archie Your one of those people that thinks Millhouse is a Meme don't you?
KYM is garbage so no i don't
Ava Archie
>"...try to make statistics and science out of memes..."
>Not knowing that the word "meme" was invented by a scientist to help describe the evolutionary principles of ideas and how they spread.
I shig
maymay arrows outside of 4chins? xD
The hate for internet memes is simple, really. Repetitive things give you a headache.
Not sure if memes are over used
Or i spent too much time on the internet
nice one
I saw what you did there.
Because it has been done to death. Because on every facet of media there are memes. And these memes even invade serious things, like Abortion and Gay rights, then it becomes either more hated because the person disagrees or the person that agrees will feel bad as well because, its a meme that expressed that. My 2 cents memes are becoming like commercials!
some memes are funny and some are not
Very interesting point about them reflecting a political viewpoint.
But proto what are doing watching this channel but proto what about arceus bring the god pokemon but proto
Why memes are interesting sometimes:
When I am watching the history channel, and "Ancient Aliens" comes on, I laugh and continue watching. Then, with my friends, I go "Aliens." and do the hand gesture. If they get it, it was really funny. If they don't, not so funny.
Why memes are really stupid most times:
(let me come up with a great example)
Someone posts on facebook: "Where has that missing jet plane gone?" "Aliens."
Dozens of people like and share this post without even knowing why that person is famous for claiming that aliens did something.
For real.
Wasn't aware we were supposed to not like memes. Sure, some get a little boring after time, but so do just regular phrases. I view memes as part of the language of the internet. Like all languages, if you don't know what the word means, you don't understand the message. If you don't understand what a meme is referring to, you miss said message. Memes are a way of quickly conveying an idea by visual means, as do words. Modern hieroglyphs if you will. So, why should we be getting tired of words. The more words there are, the richer the language. Enjoy.
I am not tired of Doge!!
Such wrong
Shut the hell up.
PowerShawn5000 Welp, fuck you
PowerShawn5000 many angry
Rasta Guilherme Henrique
You two sure have bright futures, blindly following whatever the everyone considers "humor".
PowerShawn5000 many much rude
Memes usually lose me when they do that silly "I'm trapped in a box" thing LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE. Puh-leez.
Most memes never start being funny.
Meme's used to convey someones opinions thoughts and whatnot or for satire are funny.
What isn't funny is when they just get slapped onto anything in an attempt to try and be funny on purpose. I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense but think of it as comparing a legitimate irony or witty remark vs forced humor.
This is how an "Arrow to the knee" died out so quickly and became so hated because people weren't even using it for the sake of making a point or anything, the subject could've been completely unrelated or not really worth noting and yet someone would always leave a comment or image with an arrow to the knee line.
Yes
I saw arrow to the knee rarely enough that I still love it.
Because people on the internet are full of hatred.
OwlCreekFims
I know.
Preach it.
+SnowScales You dont get annoyed of things after you hear them for the millionth time?
My name is not important.
@@TheVideoGuyfromOhio Good joke
Personally I don't get tired of a Meme unless it's really annoying or just stupid and not funny. However plenty of memes actually are funny, and as long as they're used properly and in an appropriate situation, I love them. A properly placed meme can be one of the funniest things ever, even the old ones. The same is true for any type of joke or 'funny' thing.
The way I see this issue, generally people who hate memes are like hipsters or haters. They hate for the sake of hating. They've created an issue that doesn't even need to exist. People can hate badly used memes, or annoying memes, but don't hate on them just because their old. They're an important part of our internet culture and it's history.
Spot on! It very quickly goes from being cool to quote a meme to being cool to hate on people that quote the same meme. I was laughing at arrow in the knee long after people got "sick" of it and I still appreciate a good doge. Then again, some people just enjoy hating memes, which is fine too I guess.
So I suppose in a sense internet memes are similar to puns, often considered to be one of the worst forms of humor, yet occasionally (when used cleverly) devastatingly hilarious.
A meme doesn't pass depending on a hard science, though people generally will get tired of it fairly quickly. Though the whole Gangnam Style thing lasted MONTHS (about half a year in fact) culminating in Psy's presence on American TV.
Also, memes can still be funny if they're used 'past their expiration date' and sometimes bringing an old meme can be funny considering people may not expect to see it anymore.
Memes are internet slang.
Intuitively I have always seen memes as a unique language or dialect of the internet. The internet facilitates the transfer of ideas through a complex set of signifiers and signs that are sometimes textual, and sometimes not. Either way, though, a clear message is being communicated by one person and read by others. I would argue that memes don't even need to be funny to be memes. This isn't so much about comedy as about culture, sub-culture and dialect.
Users are able to mix and remix audio, static and cycling images, video and the unique culture context of the cyberspace that a comparatively small group of people inhabits and understands. You could refer to memes as a sort of internet "slang", unique not to "this generation", but rather anyone who inhabits that space.
If we're looking at memes through the lens of "slang", it can be argued that people who inhabit cyberspace and are familiar with the language have the same feelings of revulsion a young person from a different era would have at listening to a parent or adult in a position of authority using the word "groovy", even if it were during the peak of it's cultural relevance.
Am I the only person that loves memes?
Thanks for the cancer.
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No, I fucking love 'em.
me meme me meme moar meme for me
Yes, and that makes you a categorically awful person.
My theory is simple. The reason the more popular memes wear out quicker is for the same reason you get tired of a song if you hear it over and over again. It becomes annoying, and you don't want to come in contact with it again.
So say, a repetitive joke("internet meme") would be immortal?
That's an interesting point! Even more interesting of you consider the role remixing plays in both music and image macro's. It's the only way to really renew their former glory after their popularity has waned.
I think it's simply that we consume too much too fast, kinda like how a song reaches huge popularity and fades out quickly because we all get so sick of it.
Agreed, but there's definitely more to it. I can take my underground Quasimoto album and replay that WAY more than I hear Ke$ha or Li'l Wayne... but the second I hear my brothers playing it from their mono stereo, I'm completely sick of it. Same thing happened with Tyler, the Creator, too.
I think it has to do with purpose. The purpose of LISTENING TO pop Ke$ha songs, etc., is exactly the same reason to subscribe to a currently famous meme: to gain traction in current culture. The reason to hate either is just the opposite: realizing that you are no longer gaining traction in popular culture.
(I should also note that following the crowd isn't necessarily what I mean. It has more to do with looking better in the face of a popular crowd. Sometimes, that means listening to Ke$ha, sometimes that means blasting underground rap that no one has heard of.)
Jadden Norman Wait wait wait back up... "mono stereo"?
Definitely on purpose x'D Thanks, man.
Jadden Norman That`s a good point, gaining the popularity is kind of like the snowball effect. some people like it and share it and then because of the following it gains more followers, and so on. but I think the reason why it is hated so quickly afterwards is similar to a stock market crash. It reaches it`s peak gradually until it is heard so often we all get sick of leading to a rapid decline in popularity.
I can't decide if the people getting raucously angry over memes should seek out some kind of charity or hobby to focus their currently pointless passion on instead.... or continue to stay where they are because otherwise they would get in productive people's way. The fellow interneters have done nothing to you.... that you have not done to yourself.
Do you by any chance wear a fedora and/or a Guy Fawks mask?
I don't get upset by internet memes normally, I get upset when internet memes are used incorrectly. People break the template and put any kind of words on any picture and post it and that itself is rage inducing..
And my wife..
Wait, am I the only one who still uses doge?
no
Yes.
No
Oh, ok. For a moment i thought i was the only one.
So there is two of you slowpokes. Cool.
never!!!!!! i still repeat "somebody set us up the bomb" to myself for the lulz.
Catz!
oh hey look the old fantano channel
One of the things that make some memes quickly aggravating to see plastered on every form of social media you go on is that some can be seen as a kind of 'in-joke' with certain websites and their culture.
Seeing something genuinely funny made and contained on one website then see it leaked out, posted over and over makes it kind of...lose it's meaning and what made it funny.
I mean, seeing something made on a website as chaotic and deprived as 4chan being posted on facebook by your old aunt in Minnesota is kind of...jarring, aint it?
When they start. That's when they stop being funny.
For me, a meme or joke is either funny, or it's not. Very rarely do I find something funny and eventually tire of it or have something previously unfunny become funny.
Memes die when it makes it to an episode of Family Guy.
I and many others still love doge.
APimpNamedSlickback i'll what my family?
So Shibe.
Such Swag.
Much Doge.
So WoW
There are *dozens* of us.
no
surprisingly I don't feel at all that memes are annoying, I don't cringe or groan or rage at them; I embrace them as part of internet culture and even enjoy them most of the time, not just that but I don't know anyone who hates memes, so hearing about the hate in this video is actually news to me...
As soon as this video existed, all current, past and future memes have now stopped being funny.
Get off the ride kiddies, it's over.
Am I the only person who think that some internet meme's doesn't have a "Har har har humor" in it? I mean yeah, memes can be used annoyingly if no creativity is put into it. I think some internet meme's are used just to make a point. If I say on a FB status, "How do I get a girlfriend?". A person could respond with a meme: "One does not simply get a girlfriend". Well you see, that could be humorous while at the same time answering my question and understanding the my friend's expression at the same time. I mean it doesn't even have to be funny. It's just like smily faces at sometimes. Humor is humor, subjective. I don't find all meme's funny. The "arrow to the knee" meme was so annoying to me. The obsessed GF wasn't funny to me either. Heck, I grew up with LOLcats and I find a smile on my face when I see a humorous one- not all meme users are kids. Just the way they world works: Things that aren't attractive to you are probably attractive to someone else.
But I love Memes. What is hate?
why does this guy sound like he's trying to sound like vsauce?
Because he is a man with a beard who covers interesting topics that you would have never been able to think of or research as well yourself.
Marcus Nelson LOL chill fanboy I'm just stating the obvious.
not even worked up. All I said was they're both covering topics that are broad and non-researched by you, or most people in general since they're secondary thoughts. Also that they have beards. Calm down I'm just stating the obvious as well
Marcus Nelson well the fact that you said it in a condescending manner, "that you would have never been able to think of" shows your heightened aggressiveness towards someone who merely stated their opinion. If you can't handle someone being judgmental towards your biggest idol then you need to get off the internet.
No you're implying that over your personal interpretation of what I was saying. How would you even know my specific emotional intention with that comment from monotone text? I apologize I didn't specifically say "you and most people including myself." That was heightened aggression, not my original comment. If you can't handle being wrong then you need to get off the internet.
That was the longest 13 minutes of my life. Geez...
wait wait wait...
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the notion of people being tired of Doge...
yes .. i am tiired of it ....
but but but...
doge so cute
much hilarity
wow
KnaveMurdok doge meme is dead
shiba inus are still adorable as fuck
I don't believe you... =_=
heichuu (◕‿◕✿) You are right ! i love shiba inus but the meme is just annoying
I feel like even when memes lose their humor, they can still become a part of the vocabulary of the Internet. For example, when I leave a comment on someone's Facebook post, I might say "one does not simply ______" and fill in the blank with the appropriate response.
This use of the lexicon may not be outwardly "funny," per se, but it can display a sort of internet savviness by acknowledging a common phrase, almost like being able to use idioms when speaking in a particular language. Notice how the final sentence of this comment makes you feel; it's not intended to be "funny," but should still get a reaction out of your brain in some way. And if you're impressed with this insight, then you should know that this isn't even my final form. ^CG
I think it's the fact that memes are spontaneous humor when they're first born and start spawning, but once they become popular enough to be called an internet meme, they aren't spontaneous anymore, therefore they aren't humorous anymore.
Plus with things like tv, radio, magazines, and politicians using the overly popular memes, to me, memes have always felt like an inside joke to whichever community spawned them. It'd be like the word "spoons" having special meaning to your group of friends and it always makes everyone laugh, but then someone outside the group just goes "Spoons! haha I'm funny right? I'm a cool kid now" and then everything feels awkward.
I'm not mad at old memes.
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They don't stop being funny.
Some people think they were never funny in the first place.
Simok1234 Some people think Conan O'Brien isn't funny, what can you do?
rbz0 Some people think Conan O'Brien IS funny. What can you do?
earlynovfan What are you doing here? Go watch Jimmy Fallon already.
just dont go to reddit, reddit is where meme's go to die by being beaten to death
9gag where they get brought back to life as the undead, so much worse.
And redditors keep thinking they are the king of comedy and shit. It's so annoying how redditors try so hard to be funny by churning out some of the stupidest memes and they think they are the kings of comedy
Memes die when they become popular on Facebook. Look at MLG Montage Parodies, and Doge, and image macros. Facebook killed all of those memes.
The meme becomes old or stale when it gets overrused or ruined by Facebook users.
OwlCreekFims if you think i'm wrong then you're not a true dank memer
OwlCreekFims dank just means damp it doesn't have anything to do with drugs though the word is often associated with marijuana, which isn't a drug, it is a plant. the drug is Tetrahydrocannabinol. Furthermore, you say all drugs are bad yet Jesus says let the man who is without sin throw the first stone. So i am going to list off some drugs, tell me if you don't take any of them.
ibuprofen, tylenol, advil, sugar, dextrose, glucose, caffeine, nicotine, sucrose, alcohol, dihydrogen monoxide.
+WeActOnImpulse Official more like avoid these
Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Sugar protesting, Vegans,
"...replaced your ringtone, car horn, and the sound of rain falling." lol
Honestly, I love seeing old, worn out memes. They just feel nostalgic, and it makes me smile how something so small can grow to mean so much and then nothing to everyone. The only meme that needs to die are the Minions, and that's because I'm sick of seeing them on my relatives' Facebook feed masquerading as enjoyable content
Well, now that this video is a few years old i can now add somthing, Memes can come back. Oddly enough It seems a really old meme can come back as a way to purposefully annoy. As well as be used ironically. Bringing memes back into focus.
I don't have meme cringe. I actually enjoy them quite a bit, sort of nostalgic, keeps things fresh. Sad that everyone else hates them.
Yeah i agree
funstuff81girl Totally agree
To answer the question [late I presume?]: for me, I don't really understand the hate. I laugh at most memes I encounter, and if I somehow start tiring of one, I simply don't read/view it. I think you got into this with the ambiguous "are we being forced to see them if the internet is a public place"... but for me it's really that simple.
I'm not an edgy teenager nor a hipster, therefore I don't just hate things because I bore of them or because they're common.
Anonymous (ID: /dtaSzje) 04/12/14(Sat)18:21:18 UTC+2 No.541906181
>when do memes stop being funny
>implying memes are funny to begin with
this anon is right
Maybe I'm alone in thinking so, but this episode just seemed like an angry hipster ranting "I liked memes *before* they were cool." Internet memes can still be plenty fun; the fact that they're more mainstream than they once were does not make them ruined or worthy of scorn.
One does not simply forget memes
Memes stop being funny when they're old enough to hit 9gag and get buried under its watermark.
Truly, it is impossible to say when something stops being funny, because there will always be groups of people who continue to love it or stop loving it first. However, memes tend to age well, like songs that you love do much that you listen to them until you can't stand them any longer. Nostalgia is powerful, an over used joke or reference to something from pop culture in the 80's gets tons of love from people who were fans back then, even if they grew to hate it. Like everything else, the rule of 'too much of a good thing' applies to internet memes.
I'm going to make a try not to cringe video and i'll feature all 20 of them to this guy. IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE
Brady you're like if RWJ and Andy Rooney had a love child
Like it.
Didn't I see a Southpark episode on this? Taylor Swifting, Faith Hilling etc
Are videos about memes creating a new meme - a meme meme?
As I violist, I can confirm that the jokes are mostly true.
The amount of meme complaints is too damn high!
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Sorry:( i will shut up now.
personally, I think memes go through multiple "phases":
1. the meme is brand new, no one knows what it is yet. usually very short
2. the meme rapidly gains in popularity.
3. the meme has reached its peak fame and enjoyable-ness (depending on how "good" the meme is, phase 2 and 3 can last longer or shorter)
4. the meme starts to decline in popularity, people get tired of it
5. the meme is now horrid and disgusting. it brings shame upon any who use it
6. usually a few months or a year later, it reaches a neutral stage. some people like it, some people don't, it's mostly just ordinary
OR
6. the meme remains in the 5th stage
anyone want to add anything?
TL;DR : Some memes moved on from being jokes to being internet short hand for conveying a whole concept in itself.
Some memes have transcended their original meanings though. One could make an example similar to the emoticon, or hash-tags.
Emoticons are useful ways to convey the tone of a text. Choice of words is one way, but there is a massive gulf in the way you'd interpret a e-mail from your boss saying "Are the TPS reports done yet?" if it includes a smiley at the end. Emoticons came into being because they needed to be there and made life easier.
Now memes are a bit of a different thing. They're regurgitated jokes, but once they served their purpose, the meaning of the joke (i.e. the Troll-face, the i-know-i-will-fail enthusiasm of "all the things" etc.) took a life of their own and can now be used as a short hand for conveying the meaning of a text instead of writing it out. Once can just as well just copy-paste the ASCII-art of a troll face instead of writing: "I was merely trying to aggravate you in a puckish attempt at humor".
I foresee the hash-tag following the same trajectory. It's a useful thing to show what should be read between the lines, since -once again- tone can't be conveyed easily through text. The difference between writing "I'm having cookies at the hotel" followed by a hash-tag with either "luxury life" or "imfeedingmydiabetus" completely changes the interpretation of your words.
oh god the way he said pokemon.... 'pohk-ee-mohn'
Bashment.granny
I just enjoy memes. In fact, I enjoyed most the meme's in this video, even when I've seen them a 100 times.
wait, tattoos are over? that thing that's been around for almost as long as mankind?
I feel like vines are like the new generation of memes.
He's like the guy who comes over to your apartment to hang out on a mellow Friday night with some friends, and after smoking a joint, he just CAN'T STOP TALKING.
Memes stop being funny the first couple of times they are used. They're just joke templates for unfunny people with no imagination. Or, inside jokes for people with no life. Either one. Not a whole lot of discussion is necessary here.
John Luke Horan Thank you for proving my point.
Not quite.
Meme's generally (if used properly) are a template for expressing an idea or a joke in a fashion that takes less time, is more spontaneous - And oftenly making the person more able to relate to it - If it ties into the joke.
While, yes, it does require the reciever to know of the Meme - The same can be said for any recipient of a joke. The person must be familiar and willing to recieve of the format of the joke - Otherwise they won't be responsive as in ; they will have no idea what you are talking about.
So, ignorance and hate aside - You are simply wrong.
CrazyPoochification You do have a good point. After all, a meme can be successful if done right.
Problem is, a lot of people don't do it right. And the overuse causes said joke to become stale much quicker. Any person with a decent sense of humor and/or imagination would have moved on to pursue more funny jokes. But then there is a chunk of the community that still latches onto these month old memes.
These people are unfunny. Granted, the same can be said about any joke. If I have to hear one more idiot say "that's what she said", I'm going to break something.
Adv3nturePrime
I do understand what demographic of people you are talking about.
They are generally unfunny in most circumstances or lack some of the core understanding to what makes a joke good - such as timing, expression of choise of meme.
Overall though - Yes, there is a overuse of Meme's that become so watered down that they in the end yield no real humorous value ; because they have been overdone in a poorly made fashion.
But perhaps these kinds of people thrive on the value of the trolling - or maybe they relish only on their own humor given from the idea ; i would not know.
At any rate, i wish you well and that you get to avoid infuriating meme's.
When reddit gets a hold of them.
I think people just inflate the hate, cause it's apparently cool to hate that popular thing- that hipster counter-pop pride expressed by fake contempt for it.
I'd also say that one of the beauties of certain memes is in how they annoy people, and not necessarily in the meme itself.
Watching during COVID in Oct 2020 and when Brady popped up all I could think was "Man, they are really really close together."
Internet memes stop being funny the moment they hit: 9gag, Facebook, Tumblr, iFunny, and Meme generator and RUclips. Although Reddit isn't all too great, it's not as bad as the other websites. Generally, a lot of shit comes from 4chan and gets reported on other websites. Like the Shrek video for example, it was a "thing" on 4chan's /b/ months ago... WELL it wasn't necessarily a video, it was actually a grentext story... now it's a thing on Reddit Tumblr and RUclips. Also LMAO the mad people.
Reddit's the worst.
Fucking 9gag. It's community is like a bunch of try-hard kids.
Well this is my first time watching the channel. I'm hooked. [Your format is something I would love to do. Perhaps I'll be able to one day soon!]
Cheers all!
I only cringe when a meme is used poorly or wrongly.
Memes never die, they're just out of circulation.
The reason people show so much hate for memes is because there are some people out there who love to hate on everything, and misery loves company.
This brings up interesting questions about the evolution of memes (I'm coming at this from the perspective of biological evolution and natural selection). Let's say a meme is declared "passé" on Reddit, which as a platform where up and down votes determine the success of content, gives us a very real score of a meme's fitness (it's success/popularity/subjective humor) in that population… but in that population only.
If that meme is transferred to a new population (say, if one's grandmother just found out about LOLcats), then it is subject to entirely different set of feedback, which, if it's a population of old ladies on Facebook who love cats, might prove to be incredibly successful to your grandma's social status and success of that meme's spread… but again, only in that population. That new population may even modify the meme to their own desires, a change which would be downvoted out of the original population and which would bring on ALL TEH RAGE, but may actually benefit the meme in the new population.
Someone's blanket declaration of memes as "passé" internet-wide almost certainly stems from the fact that the meme is unfit for their group, and trying to impose that selection on a distant group. It would be like toucans telling polar bears that because they'd never make it in the tropics, they might as well go ahead and just die already. I'm not sure that the fact that the internet is theoretically "connected" means that everything is subject to the same rules and cultural selection everywhere all the time.