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Introverts are super popular right now, celebrated to the point of meme-level. Stereotypically quiet, smart, and reserved, they are often conflated with nerds (who are also currently deemed awesome according to pop culture). But why do we suddenly want to self-identify as nerds and introverts? Is this popularity connected to technology? Watch the episode and find out!
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At my age (43) I can still clearly remember when being an introvert was something that people felt the need to "fix" or help you through, sort of like near-sightedness or a trick knee. Introversion was not seen as a temperament that came with strengths and weaknesses, but as a flaw that was going to burden you for life. Even older dictionary definitions of introvert described a person as "self-centered", "shy" and "misanthropic". Extroversion, on the other hand was seen as a virtue with no downside sort like a person with great athletic ability. People would often lead with that when describing themselves.
What I've noticed, in the last 10 years or so, is that people have started breaking down what an introvert truly is, people no longer see it as shy or simply someone that never gained social skills, they also see introverts as people that often have the strength to not be "popular" by expressing their own thoughts or ideas, they also are known to have deeper relationships and avoid shallow aspects of life. People have also made more of an effort to recognize introverts that have had an impact in history. On the flip side we also recognize that extroversion does have some true downsides that aren't flattering. What use to be seen as bold and out-going, is now seen as veiled attention starved and obnoxious. So now, we have almost a reversal of how we view the temperaments.
I think that technology has simply caused these perceptions to spread faster and therefore give the impression of it being a "craze".
I think the main connection between introversion and technology is that; Technology has allowed introverts to interact with others from their homes or comfort places. Making social interaction less taxing by opening a "window" or "portal" of communication to one another.
I agree
"introverts are finally getting their moment in the spotlight"
is this punishment?
+jake michael "Blinks and hisses as the spot light is turned his way.... slinks away to hide under a rock*
+Grieyls You mean the particle-exelerator-libary-house under the mountain of books. ;)
+TheExplodingChipmunk Yessshh.... *rubs hands together evily*
*starts to shiver*
Scarlet Fiend something tells that me none of us are introverts.
Yeah, maybe the media accepts introverts... But so many careers and job opportunities favor extroverts. :(
+Lisa Galarza I feel your pain. Customer service jobs especially favor the extravert. They are very typical for the stores and fast food restaurants that many young people start out. I am an introvert. It is impossible for me to pass the personality tests in job applications without lying. I am a very bad liar too. As much as I like personality psychology, I do admit this is a case where it is abused. It is good to be in ones comfort zone to be more energized, but it is nice to go out of it sometimes so one can achieve balance. Dropping out introverts really rob them of that chance to achieve balance.
tbh the whole dichotomy of intro- extro- version is a myth if you ask any respected psychologist, scientist or academic. Almost everyone lies towards the middle, like a spectrum, they are introverted one minute and extroverted the next. If its the case someone is an actual introvert or extrovert it is usually a sign of autism, psychopathy, identity disorder, manic disorders and etc...
You'll probably find a normal distribution if you get an overall score based on a set of common weights.
Two scores should be used, one as described above, the other weighted with the amount of usage to show a more "functional" score.
you're right, fact is that the world isnt black and white. if i take the myers briggs one day ill be intp the next ill be entp. i can vary between the two just with a slightly different answers therefore proving that most of us lie somewhere near the middle
TL;DR: Extrovertism was abused and fetishized for many decades; this new fad is a celebration of a counter-culture and a response to that abuse.
Part of the reason nerds and introverts are respected now is as a response to how they were depicted & treated before. It was taboo to be a nerd when I grew up, and no one seemed to understand introverts (all my introverted qualities, like enjoying being alone instead of attending parties, were viewed as psychological conditions that needed to be treated and corrected). Being interested in video games, math or reading and less interested in parties and sports meant something was deeply wrong with you socially. Society fetishized the rock star, sports star, and party animal in media and social morality to the point that being an introvert or nerd naturally arose as an alternative to these very oppressive and absolutist social requirements. People got so good at moralizing extrovertism that it was inevitable that others would start rebelling against it and seeking an alternative. When it's aggressively, oppressively morally right to be into parties and sports and you are obligated to seek a mandatory quota of social interaction to avoid being seen as broken (particularly for as *long* as that image lasted and was enforced), you can't help but develop a counter-culture that overcomes it. And this counter-culture has been a long time in the making, given some of the cult-hit movies that preceded it. It just needed an opportunity to spring up into the limelight.
Hopefully the new fad centered on introvertism won't become just as oppressive and moralistic. My grandmother told me that when she was young, people valued the quiet, reserved type; the extrovert was considered excessively chatty and shallow, and I imagine they had difficulty getting the respect and support they needed. Once both sides get to know each other and how to treat each other right, ultimately nothing is wrong with either introverts or extroverts and they get along fine; it's how that image is used, abused and enforced by social norms that causes so much pain.
+Daniel Hale
I like to think of the shifts in attitude as a pendulum swinging back and forth. When released, swaying is expected. But as time progresses, both sides learn more about each other and each swing slows down more and more. Until we reach the very center, which is ultimate understanding.
Both introversion and extroversion are complimentary to each other in so many. Even if two people don't naturally agree with each other 99.99% of the time, they can still harmonize with one thing they both have in common...'The drive for learning.' Each has so much to show the other, if only one would speak up and the other would listen.
My point? No person or thing is either good or bad, they just have qualities that are both good AND bad. All coins have both heads as well as tails, it's just a matter of how you flip it. This is why I love eastern philosophies, because they understood this idea of Yin and Yang and how it is applicable to everything.
I like how the internet tries to make Extroverts look bad. It's so funny.
"Bad" doesn't even begin to describe them. They are hideous monsters and should be eradicated from the Earth
+Chrismasterski Hi tumblr! Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
I'm an introvert, and personally I think that if everyone was an introvert people would be much smarter, and much more successful in their lives, because introverts generally study or read when they are alone. Personally I search random words to learn stuff.
No, they try to make normies look bad, normies just happens to often be extroverts.
Redstone Pro Why do you think extroverts don't do that? What do you think we do, run around and talk to people all day? I mean I do that sometimes, lol... but oftentimes I like staying at home and doing whatever. "Whatever" could be marathoning a series, marathoning a thausand Quore questions, a 100 educational youtube videos or, well, "sitting down" and learning something I'm interested in, like most recently nutrition and biochemistry.
Also, no we wouldn't be smarter. We are smarter thanks to smart people sharing and even collaborating, thanks to people interconnecting newer generations can build on that while interconnecting themselves. We would not be smarter if we were all introverted.
I took the Myers Brigs test and I got around 50% on EVERYTHING.
I sort of live two lives because,
when I'm at school I will be extroverted to my hearts content because I feel like "I don't care and at worst this won't affect me,only tests will"
Yet at home I stay indoors on my computer all the time NEVER going outside and unable to go to the shops for fear of messing something up at the counter.
I guess it's from my history,I was always the class clown because whenever I tried to be anything different I couldn't say anything at all even intellectual stuff,it made me feel like no one wanted to talk to me.
Yet at home,I know no one wants to talk to me,and I'm fine with that because I don't even have to see them,If I'm forced I'll make the best out of a bad situation but I have never wanted to talk to anyone other than my close friends.
Never thought that being introverted was cool to be honest. Nor do I consider myslef smart, like at all. That's why these stereotypes made me laugh a bit.
I'm just uncomfortable around people. But I m no poor loner though, I have few friends, and I sometimes go out for a drink, movies, concerts with them or play basketball, squash or football/soccer with them. It's just that I enjoy being alone more than being surrounded by people.
I feel like if they see me too often, we will quickly run out of things to say. Therefore I became passionate about activities regarded as "nerdy" such as reading, watching animes, or playing video games.
It's interesting how people do romanticize or fetishize introverts on the Internet when the "real world" still has a definite preference towards extroverts. There's a great Ted Talk on this but I can't currently find it. A lot of society is built for extroverts in the way people are forced into constant socialization or just being around people in institutions such as school and many work places. But then on the Internet people seem to have a preference towards introverts. Maybe because there's more introverts involved in communities on the Internet. Also, I'm an INTP as well :)
This is absolutely true. The idea that introverts are popular is laughable. I think people just want to appear intellectual and associate being smart with introversion when there exist introverts who are not brainy. To me, it's similar to the hipster thing; a bunch of people who want to appear "deep," but it's actually completely superficial. We can "get away with" being introverts online, so that's why there is a large presence there.
I agree completely.
I disagree with the extroverts wanting quantity over quality thing. Extroverts can want deep relationships as well. Maturity can bring someone to that desire.
I find it extremely interesting that solitude has been praised throughout history as an essential part of life that forges character and ideas, but we completely lost that notion for most of the 20th century, at least until now.
Yep. Especially in American society. We're taught to try our hardest to be as social as possible which is supposed to lead to networking, opportunities, productivity, and finally success. Wonder if there is a correlation between introversion and depression because of that.
rzc0624 Yep, there is a correlation but rather because introverts are generally more thoughtful and therefore self doubting than extroverts. But why should we even care about what we are taught to do in the first place?
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Caring about it is definitely a choice we all have. But you have to admit, the societal pressure and the expectations from those around us can be unnerving. It's a lose lose situation for us quieter people.
'There is no companion as companionable as solitude' - Henry Thoreau
Manuel Perez There was (in my lifetime at least) a tendency to equate solitude with loneliness. Money, power, and success came through associations.
However, as technical prowess replaced physical labor solitude became (relatively) more valued.
Still, if someone wants money, fame, or power; schmoozing others is the way to get it. The best strategy book ever written is not "The Art of War", but "How to Win Friends and Influence People".
As an introvert, I'd just like to say please take the spotlight off of us
Everyone keeps saying that tech savvy nerds and introverts are celebrated. And yet, every time I even drop a hint that I'm such a thing, I can see my stocks dropping in real time, almost immediately. People like what introverts can do for them, but they still don't like introverts themselves.
Here! Here!
Yeah, there most definitely is a strong distrust of introverts born out of anti-intellectualism. 'Nerds' are popular in a way... but they're still seen as emotionally stunted, arrogant, uncaring, etc. People still want their kids to grow up to be the life of the party, not a bookish sort.
Sometimes I think I'm not an introvert but an utterly incapable extrovert.
+Deniz Onmuş I understand your pain quite well.
Scott Shaffer I love it when that happens.
I feel you
That's me
being an introvert really isn't all it's cracked up to be, guys. it's exhausting as fuck
That house made of books he described sounds amazing.......
Those personality tests are so bad. You get questions like "You believe the best decision is one that can be easily changed? [y/n]" What kind of question is that? A decision being the best has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it can be easily changed (unless the situation calls for flexibility). How can I say either yes or no and in what way are they judging my answer considering that both answers are wrong?
Thank you!
I test just barely on the Extrovert side of the Myers Brigg stuff, but I flip back and forth from desiring company and wanting to be alone.A lot of people assume introverts and extroverts are always that way.
all the people in the comments be like 'I AM AN INTROVERT READ MY 10 PAGES ON MY LIFE BLAH BLAH BLAH ME I'M GOING TO ACT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS AN EXTROVERT AND TALK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE AS AN INTROVERT BLAH BLAH BLAH ME!!!!!"
+Asher P Wich actually exactly is what an introvert wouldn't do
Top Kek
Yeah, I've come across introverts (online, primarily) who think they're special because they're introverts and humble brag about being criticized for not like things a typical person would like. I'm an introvert, too. But I don't feel I'm special because of it.
Book-lined, intellectually stimulating home which is built inside of a library which is itself built inside of CERN underneath a mountain also made of books.
HOLY CRAP HOW DID HE KNOW WHERE I LIVE????
being introvert nerd has never been this good before
I cant imagine if it was 90s or 80s where I can't avoid being bullied etc if I were a nerd
So, I found out that I am a INTJ after taking the test several times. I went onto IRC to talk about it, and a man by the name of leithery stated that it was a pseudoscience, in which that I countered with stating that science was a series of theories believed to be true purely on faith alone. Then we had a discussion on the topic. It was neat :D
someone or something is watching all of these videos in the future.
and they are going to be so astonished at how we would love to waste our time with diagnosing and dissecting ourselves.
Hey, it's the future!
Wasting time on putting people into boxes and comparing them still seems normal.
Guess I'll check back later.
When it's even more future.
RespectYourViews 50 years brosef
Nobody in the future is gonna read my dumb comment
an extrovert can love being part of a group, but not talk much, or be painfully shy.
I am Introverted and Nerdy,
Conferssation after i had french.
Someone: HI
me: no
someone: hey whats wrong
me: leave me alone
someone: come on, you can tell me
me: I SAID GO AWAY
someone: no you didnt
me: then i did now
You are so awesome and different.
I have stopped partying completely and all I do is stay home every single day. I read all day and night and I have learned so much that I feel smarter than I ever have before. I know I am an introvert, and I think its going to help me become successful in the future. "Stop caring about what others think of you and find out who you really are". Thanks for the great video!
INTJ, all super intelligent, aloof, sociopathic, arrogant, analytical, introvert robots UNITE!!!
Introverts don't have to be smart!
They can be like me!
you're stupid!
Dogahdog
Yup.
Great to meet you. I always thought I got the introversion like so many real/fictional geniuses, but where's my share of genius.
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they can be a vjorp?
the "how to take care of an introvert" is so spot on. ive seen it before in several forms but it is all so true. i had many bad years of not relating to people before i realized how introverted i am. and knowing this about myself has made me better able to cope with situations and even actively seek out situations that would scare the hell outta me before (TOO MANY PEOPLE).
introvert doesnt necessarily lead to tech-y-ness but i think that technology does make it easier for someone who doesnt like dealing with people to be able to do more things. they can do it at their own pace, can back away and the conversation will continue and they can jump back in when the feel ready. video games and all the movies ever and all the books ever without having to deal with a sales person=priceless. correlation not causation.
Forgotten point: that all these articles praising introverts are written TO introverts, BY introverts, and posted on a medium (the internet) that is by its very nature FOR introverts. That's like a stamp collector concluding that the world revolves around stamp collecting because all the articles in his stamp collecting magazines and fliers are about stamps and stamp collectors.
Perhaps this introvert craze is just an overcorrection for the fact that introverts have, historically, been misunderstood and forced to "come out of the shell" when it is not in their nature to do so. For instance, this is the group of people worst served by the education system, which not only values conformity but relies on outward projections of knowledge and skill for assessment.
No joke!
I wish philosophers were still fetishised :(
As an introvert I believe that we are getting "spotlight time" because internet makes it easier for us to communicate. I don't feel stressed out if I communicate by comments and messages, because I know I can leave at anytime if I want to, and then say I had to do something. (This is not 100% possible with live messenger and the like though, just PM's and e-mail.)
It makes it much easier for us to find new friends (sometimes other introverts, witch is awesome, because we rarely talk to each other IRL) and express our opinions in the open.
Damn it, would you stop telling everyone where my particle accelerator is located?
Serious answer though. It's cause extroverts typically do have a hard time understanding introverts. I'm not usually the one to make plans. It doesn't mean I don't want to hang out. I'll go to a bar with my coworkers. It's just not my preferred place. Someone's house is my preferred choice. I feel that by slowly telling people I'm an introvert, it's almost like giving them permission to make the first move. Or, at the very least, explains some of the social awkwardness.
I think that there is only an introvert craze, on the internet, but not in the so called "real world". It's just not so horrible anymore, to be an introvert. So it isn't as likely to be mobbed as an introvert nowadays as for 20-30 years (I only can judge for my home country switzerland) and that's it. The internet is a little bit crazy in terms of introverts and nerds, because they invented it, build it, etc. and at the beginning the most internet users were nerd, introverts, etc.. So they have a creator status, kinda.
(English isn't my mother tongue, so..)
Holy commas Batman! On a serious note, your English is fine, just try not to use so many commas.
I agree with you completely. When I'm on Reddit or Tumblr or any other online communication medium, nerds are caricatured in the way in the video describes. In real life, however? Let's just say that, as a nerd, women at the bar aren't exactly flocking to me. Or the gym. Or at college. Or anywhere else I go, ever... well, besides Comicon. I will say that, in "meatspace," while things have definitely progressed since I was in grade school in that I don't get bullied for it, nerds still aren't considered desirable to the majority of people.
Introverts aren't specific to technology, but the social craze and acceptance of them is entirely due to the internet. Some might argue that it is because of television media, such as TBBT, Doctor Who or Sherlock with great storytelling or characters to relate to, but I think it lies with the internet. These shows are popular because they reflect what so many introverts enjoy. The internet allows us to connect with other people similar to us without making that huge social connection of going out to a specific place, for specific people. On the internet, within a couple of seconds you can immediately interact with other introverts and people who share a passion, a fandom for example.
While highly intellectual characters have always been a thing in the media, such as with the Sherlock Holmes stories, it wasn't really iconic or acceptable to be an introvert. On social medium websites like Tumblr and Reddit, you can connect with thousands of people who share your exact views. (And a good number of people who don't)
Not to mention the entire idea of how popular gaming competitions and events are, even when compared to real spectator sports. This of course you have a video on already.
In short, yes, technology has created a craze for introverts.
And it's awesome.
Technology has made a nice place for introverts to hang out and share things with each other.
i often identified as an introvert. the reason was not because i disliked social interaction but because i was so bad at it that i avoided it, however in social settings in which i am good at interacting i do quite enjoy it despite me seemingly being an introvert due to my lack of natural social skill. on the internet however i do prefer quality relationships as opposed to many relationships.
I am an INTJ and apparent 100% introvert.
The introversion is *STRONG* with this one.
I think introversion and nerdiness are the Other of extroversion and, well, the normal. And as is always the case, the Other is fetishized by society at large. The introvert is seen as different, and to those who wish to define their identity by difference, the introvert is a natural place to go.
Also, I have described you to my friends as the youtube version of me, and now that I learned you're INTP as well, I was like yooooo he actually is me! Sorry, just a big fan of the show :)
yooooo aint that the trufe. based intp life
4:38 Nice try, but the symbol for dysprosium is Dy, not D.
Love,
an ACTUAL nerd.
Kilgore Trout I certify you on this comment, nerd, for as long as it is yours to bear
"SMS and Twitter" Wow this guy is so tech-savvy
I fall in a wierd category, I really like hanging out with my friends, but only when were in a big group and I don't have to always talk. On the other hand, I absolutely HATE one on one talk, outside of the internet where I can take brakes to think about what I want to say before I say them. I can actually be really talkative in an internet conversation, much more talkative then offline, but only because I feel like I'm displaying the message I want to. In an offline conversation I might end the conversation with a small "yeah" and then there's an awkward pause until either of us think of something to say. Overall, I wish I wasn't an extrovert, but you know what they say, the grass is always greener on the other side.
Soda POP 67 woops meant AFK not offline lol
Off topic a bit, but you mentioned it and it pissed me off, so here we go. I am a classic nerd, I like computers and video games and science and comic book universes, and I like The Big Bang Theory. I have heard many complaints about the show and understand where most of them are coming from. The general gist of what I have heard is that the show doesn't celebrate nerd culture it makes fun of it, to which I say poppycock. It is, through its very nature as a piece of media, a caricature. All media, whether it is a book or a TV show, is a caricature of real life. That is why when you see a TV show within a TV show it is always absurd and overplayed, because it is a caricature within a caricature. In the case of The Big Bang Theory they have chosen to create a caricature of nerd culture which is apparently some sort of cardinal sin against society. The stories, both short and long, are genuine and genuinely funny and they get people excited by science. If one kid, while watching The Big Bang Theory, is inspired to go into the sciences, then I say that the show has done its job admirably.
+bandgeek9723 Also, if us nerds can't laugh about ourselves, we deserve to be laughed at by others. Either way, _The Big Bang Theory_ has good reason to exist. Plus, it _does_ celebrate nerd culture and science by its high attention to detail. And yes, of course the characters are extreme but I think Sheldon, Leonard, Howard and Raj can indeed act as basis vectors for nerd space, albeit not orthonormal ones.
I like being alone, I avoid attention from random people, but I love being around people who understand me, and have the same interests, Who understand what I am talking about :) whether they agree or not. that does not matter. Does that make me introverted ?
***** Do you feel more "recharged" after you've been alone for a while?
recharged in what way ?
***** So, for example, if you went to a huge party, would you feel exhausted by the social interaction and need to go home to build up your energy?
No not really, i avoid going to party's (big ones) do once in a while go to a small one.
***** Yeah, you sound like an introvert to me.
I love these videos. The writers, host, and production crew are amazing. Even the little videos and clips that get thrown in are perfect.
This is the most ENTP/INTP show I've ever seen. The Ne/Ti is strong with this one.
I am a Introvert because my Autism makes me that way, I hate being around people and if I have to ill only be around small groups that I know. Also I am gay so I'd rather stay home and be Proud then go Outside and get bullied and since I am both a Introvert and Autistic I really smart (If I do say so myself) and Poetic :) I Love Old technology like the Record Player and Music like the Beatles, The Doors, Klaatu, etc. I don't hate new technology I just rather think that they are to Zeitgeistic for me :)
Also If Introverts are Popular that's like being a Non-conformist is popular lol
evi v High Functioning Autism :)
Being a non-conformist has always been the popular thing to be. No lols to be had there, people like things that are both familiar and different from what they know.
introverts, the new emo.
more like the New Beats (what you now as Beatniks)
I thought emos were introverts?
emus are introverts.
Oh heavens. As an introvert, I can't handle the speed and exuberance of his speaking.
People are starting to love introverts because of youtubers and or characters in the media💁 and thank god🙏 it's our time to shine😌
Yeah,introverts !
Yeah,nerds !
Yeah, determination!
Yeah, prostitution!
Chrismasterski Yeah,wait wat.
That escalated quickly.
idk but know just as many extroverted nerds i'm sure, many who even overstep the mark into hyperactivity to become an annoyance to others...its just that they are not mainstream, so mainstream people still exclude them...or at least excludED them if its not a popular fad to be a nerd.
3:27 The proper term is Geek! Nerddom is restricted to a particular set of behaviours and interests, while "X" Geeks (where "x" is your topic of choice) are simply enthusiastic about a particular topic.
OMFG the description of an introvert is ablsolutely comaptible with my description :D I am typical Introvert, techology nerd and bookworm
6:36 Oh wow that John instantly gave me whiplash,,, now I understand
This reminds me of the way I refer to RUclipsrs that I watch regularly. When I'm talking about someone on a channel like Idea Channel or Scishow, I'll refer to that person as someone I know, before I remember that I've never actually met them.
as an extrovert nerd i appreciate this. I love talking, chatting, communicating. I also LOVE stories (in all forms), and I'm tired of being branded as ZANY and CUTE at the expense of SMART and WISE. :)
I think technology has enabled the introvert. We (introverts) previously were always encouraged to "fix" ourselves and force ourselves into uncomfortable social situations because that was the healthy way of living that was *supposed* to come naturally. Now we can live quiet lives behind our computers, having only brief and controlled interactions through Facebook or whatever, and even doing the majority of our shopping without leaving our houses.
You had me at " . . . except for big bang theory . . ."
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE CORRECT SIRRRRRRRRRR
On the Test when i last took it (almost exactly a year ago) i was given Extrovert, by just a small margin. What shocks me is a am really introverted. but now knowing about the quality over quantity i understand why. last year i was always with my close friends, so i was always talking (to the point they called me annoying). This year i am separated from m friends, and talking with them online once a week or so isn't the same to me as in real life. now i understand why i tested extrovert at first. Because I had never needed to be isolated because i liked my social interaction between my 6 friends and I. I would most likely test introvert if i took it again, seeing as I never talk except for when with my good friend(s). This is probably my favorite Idea Channel Video.
Jake! Omg! A big shout out to all homestuckers c:
I find this an interesting question, seeing as I am SUPER extravert and a nerd. I'm currently doing a PhD in Medieval History, I love books, games (board- and computer), series and films like Sherlock, Harry Potter, Firefly and so on, and yet I have no problem talking a lot, connecting fast (sometimes superficially, like on the train) to people etc. The only 'problem' for me right now is that the negativity connected to being extravert is sometimes hurtful. People sometimes assume that since I talk a lot I can't develop an intelligent idea, or that I don't care about 'the important stuff', or that I'm just dumb. Granted, I'm pretty tactless and dumb on a social level, but my best friend calls it 'honest' and 'what you see is what you get' :) On the other hand, I love the silence of libraries, and I can disappear for hours to read, or think about the weirdest things. Quite the interesting conundrum :)
I love this, it hits a lot of good points. Its funny because people who get on the Internet and laugh at a photo of a person who read a meme like "The older I get, the more I hate people" or "Can't tell if I hate Facebook, or I hate people". A lot of those people who find that funny, are the modern introvert. People who seek the joys of Internet culture such as memes, reddit, 4Chan, etc. seem like introverts. Where extroverts criticized society in a social place, introverts do that online.
I identify as a nerd because I've been called one quite often (and surprisingly in a adoring way). Also, I tend to like things that are stereotypically 'nerdy'. I would rather stay home and read a book, or watch anime, or read manga, or freak out about Harry effing Potter, or freak out about Disney and all its intertwinedness, or look stuff up about cryptids, or play video games, or watch this. I also identify as an introvert because someone mentioned it somewhere and just like I have looked up (for way more hours than necessary) things about my name and zodiac I wanted to find out what I was and then research on it. The best way someone put it that made me think I was an introvert is that I love being around people, that I know very well and aren't new and when it's not 6 or more of them at a time and when I have me time I can spend later to just be by myself and recharge.
Some introverts are actually superheros
You're videos are really cool. I especially like them because there is no bias at all. And they make me think heaps about the connections in pop culture and philosophy
Yeah, I'm definitely an introvert with a splash of extroversion... I love thinking and such, but with certain people I like to share these feelings. Epic conversations!
I think he's got the whole concept of Introversion and Extroversion slightly misinterpreted though.
Extraversion is "the act, state, or habit of being predominantly concerned with obtaining gratification from what is outside the self"
Introversion is "the state of or tendency toward being wholly or predominantly concerned with and interested in one's own mental life."
Just because someone is introverted does not entail any correlation with a preference of quality over quantity. It's more of a matter of Introspection vs Extrospection- but even still, Introverts are still pretty darn cool.
I was hoping he would talk about introversion and extraversion as psychological concepts and how most of us (~97%) have behaviors that fit both, whether it's fashionable to believe so or not. It's a shame so many people only know these terms from a corporate pop psych "test."
about three years ago I was under the impression that the word geek was used in the what this video calls Nerd.....so have we flip-flopped?
The spotlight on introverts is mostly a good thing.
It has helped other people understand the needs and motives of the introverted population; as well as help introverts (and even extroverted people) to be more comfortable with that part of themselves.
thank you for introducing me to Night Vale.... its totally rad.
I find this a very interesting subject because I've become a bit confused about if I'm actually an introvert or an extrovert. As a kid and into my 20's I've always been extremely extrovert, but I feel that has faded in recent years and I'm now 29. I almost feel like I have a split personality in a sense. Since I was 21 I've had very social jobs, talking to customers and colleagues all day. My current job is very social and requires me to be very extrovert, and I have no problem with that at all. My job also gets very hectic at times too. After work though I love to just sit a relax in front of my computer primarily learning new things and gathering knowledge. In the weeks days I rarely hang out with my friends anymore, so I feel very introvert in that way. In the weekends though I love going out and partying with friends and being very social, and I'm very comfortable being the center of attention. I also love going on vacation and taking trips with my friends. I think that my jobs drains so much energy from my self that I need that down time by my self in the weeks days. Does anybody else feel the same ?
i am extremely introverted and a massive nerd for many things and i make no apologies about those things. I love to collect knowledge in philosophy, science, arts, I love characters like harry potter, Sherlock Holmes, house, and a grate many others. I love a film that makes me think, I love a book that is saturated with ideas and that which I can learn from. I love to pick things apart and analyse. I love puzzles and love to challenge my brain. because without brain work i will go insane.
So, Totally an Introvert here. I've found that I have longer reply's than most other people. My initial comments can be short, but as soon as I need to explain something in depth: look out! Three paragraphs, all of it informative or inquisitive.
Bypassing the debate of introverts better vs extroverts better, I'd say that one benefit you definitely have being an introvert is that you don't need to socialize. That actually results you engaging in projects that require high levels of concentration for a prolonged periods of time.
Did I just see him using Myers-Briggs test as an authority? It has been refuted so many times, its amazing that it's still used.
"lord of introversion" lol that name sound so cool, and i dont know why.
I'm an introvert! I'm an introvert! I'm an introvert! I'm an introvert! hahahahahahahaha!
i didn't know introverts are so favored, i thought it was the other way around.
I find this kind of funny. I dislike social networks, and I mostly use them to see what other people are doing. I never really bothered to post anything on these, and I don't think that will change. I am a nerd, almost your stereotipical nerd: I'm interested in litterature, mathematics, physics, and new technologies, and I spend quite a load of time reading about this kind of stuff.
However, I've always enjoyed going in chat rooms to find funny conversations, and participate in them. I love new technologies, and spend most of my time on the internet. What I mean is that enjoying meaningful communication doesn't really mean that this communication has to be with people that you know "in flesh". I say this because the conversations I enjoyed were with people that I got to know in forums, where we discussed tons of different things. My communication with them was definitely meaningful.
I also got to know plenty of introverts ,mainly because I found some forums where there pretty much everyone was an introvert, except maybe one or two guys, and every one of those was different, had a different personnality and a different "relationship" with technology.
At the end of the day, I'd say that introversion is a vast concept, and yes I agree with you on that, and that it would be wrong to reduce it to a particular stereotype, that's why there are different "types" of introverts. I do, however, think that new technologies are making introversion more common, or at least making introverts and nerds more visible, because they allow them to show and share their interests online. Maybe it is becoming more popular to be an introvert because of the multiplication of acts of communnication, which makes it lose its importance, its meaning, which is what introverts desire.
and then feeling this need to broadcast them to the world as himself, a classic sign of an extrovert
"Introverts finally getting the spotlight" Probably the opposite of what they want...
true like with Anti-Conformists lol (I'm a Introvert)
it's not that introverts don't ever want attention. It's just that a little goes a long way.
Too much time under bright lights can lead to burn-(out)s.
I feel the cause of the "introvert craze," has more to do with being "indie," or a "hipster." We live in an age where being independent is considered rare, so those who tend to keep to them selves or are introverted find new ways of living outside of the social norm because of there self inclusion.
Got so excited for a moment when you said there was a fifth mbti letter!
This. Video. So. Much.
I've always had such a hard time distinguishing whether I'm an introvert or an extrovert, and really it comes down to "it depends".
I'm a theater kid, can go on stage and play parts, speak loudly, and even get humiliated rather... comfortably. But this is because its on stage. In " real life ", I'm petrified of embarrassment and of being to loud. I have generalized anxiety, but it seems to melt away on the stage.
I find conversations easy. I can strike them up with anyone I stand next to, and generally, about anything. So I suppose I consider myself outgoing.
But talking to multiple people at once confuses me and stresses me out to no end.
On the topic of conversation, I love having intellectual conversations. But I also love talking about stupid things and making jokes and being immature. I love scoring high on tests but I hate studying with a passion.
I love to go out with my friends, and socialize and go out and do things. But I hate parties, cramped spaces, overly loud music, dancing..
I like to talk about myself and be open, but again, I always have anxiety about rejection and being annoying.
Its very confusing. But I don't feel the need to have to force myself into one or the other, so it helps. :)
Angela Lopez You're probably an ambivert. Translation: A normal person.
You're neither an introvert nor an extrovert. You have the ability to thrive in both situations, with traits of both types.
I just took the Myers Briggs test and accodring to the Star Trek gauge, I'm Spock! ISTJ!!!!!
this was an AMAZING episode. Put into words so many things I was thinking around.
As an introverted person, I totally get the whole disconnect from tech thing. I love the internet and can actually get around my social anxiety online, and have friends that I would struggle with IRL. But I loathe twitter, and smartphones and tablets and constantly being "on". The best thing about socialising online is you can switch off when you feel tired or overwhelmed, but unfortunately most people don't react well to that because social networking is the in thing.
Everytime I watch your videos, I smile - and I am sometimes distracted - at how you have Talking Heads " Speaking In Tongues " next to your own talking head. Also, GREAT album. BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE!
I wish people wouldn't always assume that every introvert is obsessed with reading. I am very introverted myself, but I'm not a huge reader.
Okay couple of things that always crop up with the Meijers Briggs test. For one as a kid I often tested borderline intro vs extrovert, but something I think that was never distinguished back during it's time that was brought up in the "big 5" test is the additional difference between "extroversion" vs "outgoing". Upon differentiating those two ideas I was able to realize that I myself am extremely extroverted, but until recently was not very outgoing, (due to a lack of solidified passions and friends to share said passions with.)
That brings me to another idea surrounding the Nerd/Geek vs Introverts. Nerds are passionate about certain fields and subject and pour large portions of time and resources into it. Yes it does favor introverts who tend to prefer time indoors on computers or reading book and such learning about these things they are passionate about. However I feel it is unjustly favoring introverts as being the only ones who can be nerds.
"Back in the day" ie. 5-10 years ago, rationals, the Intuitive Thinker, the *NT*, as by the briggs test, were the typified nerds. And that included extroverts. ENTP's (myself) and ENTJ's along side INTJ's and INTP's (you apparently). A good example of the dichotomy in personality not being dependent on introversion, (using Robert Downy Jr. two big recent roles as an example,) would be Sherlock Holmes vs Tony Stark. Holmes, classic INTJ, heavily introverted. Stark, ENTP, extremely extroverted, and yet both are what we would in modern terms consider nerds.
I think it does come back a little bit to understanding the difference between extroversion and social tact. Remember how I said I was extroverted as a kid but not outgoing? That because despite being a kid who never knew how to shut up, I never knew how to shut up. Yeah....People hated me, okay hate is a strong word, but heavily disliked because I was too much for them to handle, too extroverted. The real nerd, unlike what is evolving out of our media today, has little to do with an image or personality specific thing, but more to do with the passion for knowing and as you put, becoming a master or artisan in an art or field of knowledge.
Way to break down my relationship...with life!!! This vid is a cross between
"The Introverts Way" and "The Nerdist Way" Both titles I have taken as layers to my identity; of which I have many. Great Job.
I actually clapped when you said you scored INTP too. :D
I know I'm awesome. I'm just glad other people finally realize it too.
INTP's unite! Also, props for calling out Big Band Theory on its mostly inaccurate representation of nerd-dom.
As for the actual content, I think your most poignant assertion here is that the introvert/extrovert spectrum has been greatly caricature-ized by technology/the advent of social media. Its as if all extroverts are expected to be extreme ESFP's (i.e. the "party animal") and all introverts extreme INTJ's (i.e. the "computer programmer"). In my opinion the introvert craze has been directly caused by the transition into the information age...thus, technology is not a cause, but a facilitator of this phenomenon through the development of public opinion via memes and other digital tools.
We don't just focus on Cecil and Carlos's relationship because it's human and normal (though this is true), but because it's just so cute. :)
Your're INTP! No wonder why I like you videos so much. IRL, all my old friends talk about is other people and random things, but on the internet, I can find interesting discussion of ideas and news with other XNTP. So much more stimulating watching these educational videos than having useless chat with my old friends.
You know the favorite thing about this guy. Is how bouncy he gets when he discusses the comments.
Not necessarily his tone, but all of his movement.
"The Big Bang Theory" should be considered as a pioneer signal of this craze for nerdiness. They actually are a constant reminder of the social consequences that we nerds suffered when encountered with things are generally considered as "normal".
An introvert craze would be very nice. We've been running on an extrovert craze for nearly a century.
I'm an introvert, and have been pretty much sine I could talk. And honestly, I do feel a little outcast sometimes. Everyone in my family, most of my friends, and the internet at large seem to be extroverts, and many of them find my behavior odd, or just straight up confusing. I would rather sit in my room and learn about magnetism or astrophysics (or watch Idea Channel!) that go out and hang with friends. I find more enjoyment reading a forum than I do posting in it. In fact, I didn't even know this introvert craze has happened/is still happening. Could've fooled me.
Still though, I'm less introverted than I was. Being forced to make friends and spend time with people who were extroverted made me a lot more capable of dealing with extended periods of social contact, and honestly, has allowed me to understand why and how they prefer what they do. So really I think that nobody is only an introvert or only an extrovert; there's a continuum, and everyone falls in a different place. Not only that, but you can change your position on the continuum, to an extent.