I love this video! Creative objective markers are so fun. Here's what I'm planning for a couple of armies I'm working on (open to suggestions also!) Defenders of Helm's Deep: - Civilians sheltering in the glittering caves - The statue of Helm you see in the films - Maybe supplies from an armory, like a barrel of throwing spears Cirith Ungol: - A couple of Shelob's victims - The mithril coat - The silent watchers at the gates - Gollum (to make up for that fact that he should've been in this legion!!)
Thanks Sam! Very cool ideas. How will you do the civilians? will there be crystals on the bases? I did find a miniature that looks similar to the statue - might just need some re-posing: unreleasedminiatures.eu/free-men/173-dynasty-progenitor-ft.html but if you are UK based you might struggle as I don't think they deliver here anymore :( Great idea for the silent watchers! Any ideas on how you will you make them, will they be the gargoyle type ones or the multiple headed crow type ones? haha I can only agree! Gollum would have made the legion so much better. Playing it seems flat sometimes- I think he would have added that extra punch for the heroes that the legion needs.
@@windrushwargamers2745 I am kitbashing some unmounted Morgul Knights at the moment using The Dead Men Of Dunharrow. If you wanted to do a video on kitbashing in general, that would be awesome!
@@esker3670 Sounds awesome bud, have you need my kitbashed Black Numenorean/ unmounted Morgul Knight video? ruclips.net/video/nPtuHVAyTEk/видео.html That is a cool Idea for a video. I could discuss the ideas/ techniques. Maybe pull out all of my kitbashes over time to see the progression- perhaps some WIP ones
@@windrushwargamers2745 yeah mate, as someone new to the hobby myself, I would love to see more vids around these topics. Perhaps not even advanced kitbashing but just generally customising your minis in subtle ways.
This really is a great video. I don't play MESBG but I've been wanting to make some unique objectives for Frostgrave. I hope to watch more since your videos are very informative in making the figures in your army/warband your own.
@@windrushwargamers2745 I'm so sorry I just saw this. My warband is a Norwegian Seer and his granddaughter who shares in his gift for sight. Their clan has been suffering crop failures, attacks from other clans, and omens of great disaster. To prevent this, they along with their strongest Karls have been given their Jarl's blessing. Heading into the city to gather long lost supplies and magical means to regain a foothold in their home.
I stuck a Numenorian warrior on the little plinth that forgeworld models come on. Broke and scratched him up a bit then painted him as an old worn statue, works quite well
I bought some Cursed City bats to make Bat Swarms for Razgush's army and used the pillars that came with them along with some Dol Guldur Ruins bits to make some Ruin/skeleton themed objective markers.I'll probably do some "person wrapped in spiderwebs" markers aswell as I have the Wargames Atlantic spider set. They shoudl work well for Cirith Ungol. Maybe even for a homebrew Cirith Ungol Battle Companies scenario about rescuing soldiers etc.
@@windrushwargamers2745 you get three 25mm bases with a small "swarm" each. one is basicly just one massive bat. I got three sets and put them on two 40mm bases, cutting off most of the pillars and piling them on top of each other. most of the bats are quite small when compared to the metal Bat Swarm but I kind of like that.
@@frederikschulze8218 Thanks! I might have to grab some of them. I never bought the bat swarm so I just used the one that comes with Druzhag but I may need extras
I have converted two sets of objective markers as of today. One is a set of barrels numbered 1-6 taken which where leftovers from my rohan houses and they work great as neutral supplies of some kind. The other set consists of small micro dioramas simulating parts of a battlefield to act as points of strategic importance and are mainly for my erebor and hunter orc armies.
@@windrushwargamers2745 Ha- didn't note the text, but saw pictures- or maybe I was looking down at my orc horde kitbash [Wargames Atlantic, GW, MESBG, Oathmark]...
Oh damn, just noticed I accidentally deleted my first comment instead of posting it.^^' Well I was saying I was happy the video finally came out. You also mentioned ALL my ideas for thematic markers, and added some new ideas to them. F.e. I'm biting my ass rn that I glued my "Twilight" Frodo into the diorama whilst he would have been a perfect marker for every army good and evil. It's a great video as always! Really inspiring will work on a few till my latest order arrives ;D
Thanks Buddy! what have you ordered? Shame that you can't remove Frodo and magnetize him so he can be used as both a diorama and an Objective marker. Let me know what you work on and if you have any ideas for other objective markers as I could include them in a follow up video
@@windrushwargamers2745 Damn, I wanted to say: I wrote that in my answer, but i didn't send that yet :D You'll receive it today ;) Well I guess i could remove Frodo to make him an objective marker. But more likely I'll just have to make another, as I don't want to risk destroying the diorama. Luckily the plastic fellowship isn't that expensive. Or I'll just use one of my metal ones. Unfortunately you literally had everything else in the video which had in mind as objective markers, but if I come up with another I'll make sure to let you know :) edit: f.e.: banners, banners are also something I saw as objective markers. Also markers which don't fit the army, but the gaming board, like Oris book on a Balins Tomb table, maybe Boromirs Horn on Amon Hen, a fire, pan and breakfast for Amon Sul...
@@windrushwargamers2745 I have some old markers, one with some flowers that hobbits want to protect, and old sword on the ground, a crack in the the ground that dwarf want to close or gobelins open... My project for now are 2 Númenóreans artifacts made with some stuff from wounded Elendil & Isildur ! i will send some photos if you want !
Thanks! The horn was from a dark ages kit of some kind- I believe Saxon- not sure I bought it some time ago. It must have been the same kit as the windsock. I am not sure of the exact kit, but I know that they are fairly common throughout Dark ages kits- so if you do a google search you should be able to find it or something very similar. Hope this helps. Have you got any more ideas for objective makers that I haven't covered? I would be keen to do a follow up video with YT comments suggestion.
Thanks Harry! The smoke was really simple. it is just cotton wool. Might be from the end of a ear bud (Q tip). Just super glued in place and cut to length. you can shape and repose it as you like. Have you got any ideas for objective markers?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I've bought an isengard battle host and found my old mesbg minis. I'll let you know on the objective markers. 3d printed barrels and piles of treasure spring to mind so far
@@HouseSalix Very cool man, let me know how you get along with your army projects- feel free to search for us in Discord if you want to show us progress pics :) What old MESBG minis did you find?
The problem I find with middle earth objectives making your own is the base size it looks naff sticking a casualties on 25mm bases and people moan if you use 50mm unlike in 40k
Aye, not too much room to tell a story. The Stag that is featured in the video is on a 32mm. I would have no problem playing with 50mm objective markers to be honest- unless the table was really busy with terrain
I love this video! Creative objective markers are so fun. Here's what I'm planning for a couple of armies I'm working on (open to suggestions also!)
Defenders of Helm's Deep:
- Civilians sheltering in the glittering caves
- The statue of Helm you see in the films
- Maybe supplies from an armory, like a barrel of throwing spears
Cirith Ungol:
- A couple of Shelob's victims
- The mithril coat
- The silent watchers at the gates
- Gollum (to make up for that fact that he should've been in this legion!!)
Thanks Sam!
Very cool ideas. How will you do the civilians? will there be crystals on the bases?
I did find a miniature that looks similar to the statue - might just need some re-posing: unreleasedminiatures.eu/free-men/173-dynasty-progenitor-ft.html but if you are UK based you might struggle as I don't think they deliver here anymore :(
Great idea for the silent watchers! Any ideas on how you will you make them, will they be the gargoyle type ones or the multiple headed crow type ones?
haha I can only agree! Gollum would have made the legion so much better. Playing it seems flat sometimes- I think he would have added that extra punch for the heroes that the legion needs.
Really enjoyed this. Love the topic and the format.
Thanks Don. what have you used for objective markers in the past?
Also, let us know if you have any ideas for other topics to discuss in this format :)
Like the no nonsense format mate, and fun content too. Keep it up 👍
Thank you buddy! what are you working on right now and do you have any suggestions for topics you would like to see me cover?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I am kitbashing some unmounted Morgul Knights at the moment using The Dead Men Of Dunharrow. If you wanted to do a video on kitbashing in general, that would be awesome!
@@esker3670 Sounds awesome bud, have you need my kitbashed Black Numenorean/ unmounted Morgul Knight video? ruclips.net/video/nPtuHVAyTEk/видео.html
That is a cool Idea for a video. I could discuss the ideas/ techniques. Maybe pull out all of my kitbashes over time to see the progression- perhaps some WIP ones
@@windrushwargamers2745 yeah mate, as someone new to the hobby myself, I would love to see more vids around these topics. Perhaps not even advanced kitbashing but just generally customising your minis in subtle ways.
@@esker3670 Thanks mate, I have made a note of it and will work on it after my upcoming video.
This really is a great video. I don't play MESBG but I've been wanting to make some unique objectives for Frostgrave. I hope to watch more since your videos are very informative in making the figures in your army/warband your own.
Thanks Bud, I have dabbled in FG too. It's a fun system. Wish I could have played it more. What is your warband like?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I'm so sorry I just saw this. My warband is a Norwegian Seer and his granddaughter who shares in his gift for sight. Their clan has been suffering crop failures, attacks from other clans, and omens of great disaster. To prevent this, they along with their strongest Karls have been given their Jarl's blessing. Heading into the city to gather long lost supplies and magical means to regain a foothold in their home.
I stuck a Numenorian warrior on the little plinth that forgeworld models come on. Broke and scratched him up a bit then painted him as an old worn statue, works quite well
The scratching up is a good idea, I will do that for future statue OMs - will add nice texture. Cheers
I bought some Cursed City bats to make Bat Swarms for Razgush's army and used the pillars that came with them along with some Dol Guldur Ruins bits to make some Ruin/skeleton themed objective markers.I'll probably do some "person wrapped in spiderwebs" markers aswell as I have the Wargames Atlantic spider set. They shoudl work well for Cirith Ungol. Maybe even for a homebrew Cirith Ungol Battle Companies scenario about rescuing soldiers etc.
Nice, I have been thinking of picking them up- how did the bats scale? one pose has the massive one right?
@@windrushwargamers2745 you get three 25mm bases with a small "swarm" each. one is basicly just one massive bat. I got three sets and put them on two 40mm bases, cutting off most of the pillars and piling them on top of each other. most of the bats are quite small when compared to the metal Bat Swarm but I kind of like that.
@@frederikschulze8218 Thanks! I might have to grab some of them. I never bought the bat swarm so I just used the one that comes with Druzhag but I may need extras
I have converted two sets of objective markers as of today. One is a set of barrels numbered 1-6 taken which where leftovers from my rohan houses and they work great as neutral supplies of some kind.
The other set consists of small micro dioramas simulating parts of a battlefield to act as points of strategic importance and are mainly for my erebor and hunter orc armies.
that's a good use of the Rohan Terrain Sprue - as you say, they can be used for loads of armies.
What else are you working on?
Wargames Atlantic's Giant Spiders have two figures wrapped in webs. Great for their army specific objective markers.
Nice one mate, I have a couple you can see them at 5:13.
What are you working on right now?
@@windrushwargamers2745 Ha- didn't note the text, but saw pictures- or maybe I was looking down at my orc horde kitbash [Wargames Atlantic, GW, MESBG, Oathmark]...
Oh damn, just noticed I accidentally deleted my first comment instead of posting it.^^'
Well I was saying I was happy the video finally came out. You also mentioned ALL my ideas for thematic markers, and added some new ideas to them. F.e. I'm biting my ass rn that I glued my "Twilight" Frodo into the diorama whilst he would have been a perfect marker for every army good and evil.
It's a great video as always! Really inspiring will work on a few till my latest order arrives ;D
Thanks Buddy! what have you ordered? Shame that you can't remove Frodo and magnetize him so he can be used as both a diorama and an Objective marker.
Let me know what you work on and if you have any ideas for other objective markers as I could include them in a follow up video
@@windrushwargamers2745 Damn, I wanted to say: I wrote that in my answer, but i didn't send that yet :D You'll receive it today ;)
Well I guess i could remove Frodo to make him an objective marker. But more likely I'll just have to make another, as I don't want to risk destroying the diorama. Luckily the plastic fellowship isn't that expensive. Or I'll just use one of my metal ones. Unfortunately you literally had everything else in the video which had in mind as objective markers, but if I come up with another I'll make sure to let you know :)
edit: f.e.: banners, banners are also something I saw as objective markers. Also markers which don't fit the army, but the gaming board, like Oris book on a Balins Tomb table, maybe Boromirs Horn on Amon Hen, a fire, pan and breakfast for Amon Sul...
It's an awesome and inspiring video, thank you !
Thanks! More will come. Have you made any objective markers yourself?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I have some old markers, one with some flowers that hobbits want to protect, and old sword on the ground, a crack in the the ground that dwarf want to close or gobelins open...
My project for now are 2 Númenóreans artifacts made with some stuff from wounded Elendil & Isildur ! i will send some photos if you want !
@@Zehyr222 Sure dude. Send the pics to windrushwargamers@gmail.com and we'll take a look :)
Hidden and secret doors could be cool objectives especially to represent Gondor or Erebor. Evil and good factions would want to fight over these.
good thinking bud, have you made many objective markers yourself?
Those are some great ideas right there! Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Where did you get that wonderful twisty horn for the dwarf ranger conversion?
Thanks! The horn was from a dark ages kit of some kind- I believe Saxon- not sure I bought it some time ago. It must have been the same kit as the windsock. I am not sure of the exact kit, but I know that they are fairly common throughout Dark ages kits- so if you do a google search you should be able to find it or something very similar. Hope this helps.
Have you got any more ideas for objective makers that I haven't covered? I would be keen to do a follow up video with YT comments suggestion.
Great ideas all around here! Quick question, how did you do that smoke effect at 6:00 ? It looks incredible!
Thanks Harry! The smoke was really simple. it is just cotton wool. Might be from the end of a ear bud (Q tip). Just super glued in place and cut to length. you can shape and repose it as you like.
Have you got any ideas for objective markers?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I play 40k pirate orks so treasure chests are my plan
Amazing ideas!
Thank you. What are you working on right now? Also, do you have any ideas for other objective markers?
@@windrushwargamers2745 I've bought an isengard battle host and found my old mesbg minis. I'll let you know on the objective markers. 3d printed barrels and piles of treasure spring to mind so far
@@HouseSalix Very cool man, let me know how you get along with your army projects- feel free to search for us in Discord if you want to show us progress pics :) What old MESBG minis did you find?
This is one area I'm lacking in. My friend just made some class ones for his dunland army. The old galadriel for my loth would be class.
What did your friend use for his Dunland markers?
Nice, what do the dunland ones look like?
@@windrushwargamers2745 Mainly just rohan bits but I'll Try get some photos for you
@@JMACCSArmiesOfMiddleEarth Thanks bud, I am keen to see
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The problem I find with middle earth objectives making your own is the base size it looks naff sticking a casualties on 25mm bases and people moan if you use 50mm unlike in 40k
Aye, not too much room to tell a story. The Stag that is featured in the video is on a 32mm. I would have no problem playing with 50mm objective markers to be honest- unless the table was really busy with terrain
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