Thank you for reaching out to me about this! This topic is really fascinating to me which may seem crazy considering my upbeat super positive content. I think it’s really important to call out shady business and journalism practices. It’s really a shame that things have turned out like this- I really hope entertainment/gaming journalism can improve and writers can be paid what they deserve to be paid. And best of luck on your hunt for Shaymin!! It’ll be entirely worth it once it shines!
There was a "gaming journalism" article someone showed me once that was like "Pokemon fan makes incredible fusion of Rotom and Ho-Oh"... and it was just an article-ification of uncredited fanart of a sprite my friend designed for Pokemon Infinite Fusion.
DUDE I GET THOSE ALL THE DANG TIME "Fan designs incredible Past Paradox form for Dragapult!" *Preamble about the Pokemon with a somewhat functional Reddit link at the end*
I see the RUclips shorts equivalent, RUclipsrs just taking fanart and reposting it here and adding nothing to it. They at least credit the artist a fair about of the time, but it still pisses me off
That happens for movies too lol, "when is X coming to netflix?" 3000 words laters and the answer is "we don't know if this movie will ever come to streaming services at all"
“When is Silksong releasing?” **long ass article rambling about what hollow knight and Silksong are, as if the people clicking on it don’t actually know** “We don’t know”
thats like how every single month a wave of articles come out about "NEW THINGS COMING IN ANIMAL CROSSING NEW HORIZONS" and its just the monthly seasonal critter rotation
yes pretty woman sing me your siren song about the horrors of capitalism i would love to hear it while working on art and playing minecraft thank you kindly
Oh hey, another video taking Valnet to court. As someone who has written thousands of articles for them who stopped because I just couldn't stomach it anymore, you are only scratching the surface on them.
@@agramuglia I imagine that things go way deeper than this, but also I think that diving much more could end up resulting in some trouble. I was a bit hesitant to speak openly about a company like this, but I believe it is an important conversation to have and I tried doing it in the most responsible way I could.
I... wouldn't worry. I know editors who are have said just about everything under the sun about their negative experiences with Valnet. They don't engage with criticism because they are aware that, by doing this, it brings it higher into SEO rankings. They also tend to rewrite what writers submit, so sometimes, you can write something, provide evidence, and they'll just remove it for SEO reasons.
Not just Pokemon and Stardew, and not just Reddit, either. They trawl everywhere they can, and dump out the most worthless trash by twisting a 3 word tweet into an article.
I was not suprised they got Shiny Catherine hunt wrong, they made an "SILKSONG IS RELEASONG SOON!!!" article when the social media person from Team Cherry (Hollow Knight creators) wrote a message on discord. The message wasn't even related to the game
I just finished Part 1. The bit about Amazon hiring workers from India to monitor their "cashier free" stores reminded me of how Meta did the same thing by underpaying Kenyan workers who are handling its content moderation. (A company called Sama is outsourced for this work). The workers often see disturbing images for a mere pittance. Update: Looks like the rest of the video is about that and content mills. Yeah...it's everywhere. Update 2: Good luck with the move!!! As you know, global capitalism runs on grossly underpaid and exploited labor.
The base underlying problem of AI, a threat far bigger than “mass media becomes unbearably same-y, but at least I have a brainstorming buddy”, and also far smaller than “we’re gonna start running out of lithium by 2030”, is that it’s all founded on the disgustingly named Mechanical Turk, run by Amazon, and the many companies that copied its model. Learning algorithms need tagged data to function on a fundamental level. Humans should tag data, because an automated system would very quickly mark everything it gets as “data”, because that takes the least computation possible. Models need new tagged data regularly to do a good job, and this problem grows exponentially. All projects working with tagged data, regardless of context, are working with finely ground blood diamonds, formed from an undocumented large underpaid workforce, who still are receiving so many tasks at once that they have to write their own automation software to make no money.
The moment you said gamerant I already knew. They really are just gaming news fodder and dont really do any research and I've even seen copy pasted articles on there
im forever waiting for the day that someone makes a browser extension that completely blocks all valnet-owned properties from showing up on search engines. great video btw, this was an instant sub 🙇♂️ its literally so cathartic seeing more people cover just how terrible this corpo is. more awareness of their shitty behaviour is needed 🙏🙏
I know this bit was more of a footnote, but the bit about younger people using tiktok as a search engine being pitted against the idea of searching reddit, that's a really good way to frame it. I absolutely rely on reddit to get answers that i can sorta trust, and thinking about how unreliable the internet has become as reason for why some younger folk aren't good with wider bits of the internet; because the internet isn't good for learning anymore.
thank you for being so open about your social beliefs, i feel like there is a lack of honesty about sociopolitical topics like capitalism, transphobia, and colonization, and other horrific injustices among many youtube spheres, especially pokemon. your words and your channel are a breath of fresh air 💗
You sharing ur experience with the internet at a young genuinely resonates with me, and it made me feel so sad about a thing that sparked such wonder when I was a child being ruined by corporate
As someone who used to work in the video game industry until not too long ago, I'm sadly all too familiar with this being a problem that goes beyond journalism. Thank you for shedding light on this, it's so important for people to be aware. Your channel is wonderful - I think part of why many people gravitate towards RUclipsrs is because so many other platforms have all but completely lost their human element.
"An innocent fun innocuous topic" Idk having "the death of gaming journalism" in the title is already very charged lmaoo 💀 The internet will never recover from the horrors of Gamergate 😭 Excited to finally watch a video about actually legitimate criticism of gaming journalism and not a thinly veiled harassment campaign though!
@@greenamber9827 Yeah. That was a shitshow. Remember Feminist Frequency? They were the Just Stop Oil of feminism, in that they caused tons of issues and only made the image of actual feminists worse.
I saw an article a while ago titled something along the lines of: "Breath of the Wild and Horizon Zero Dawn Meet in This Brand-New Open-World Adventure!" ...and it was Monster Hunter Rise, which isn't even remotely similar to BotW or HZD gameplay-wise, or even open-world in the first place.
These kind of articles kill games too because it makes people think this game is like that game and ends up linking them together rather than stand on it's own Look at Palworld and IGN calling it "Pokemon with guns" when it's nothing like it
Forever thinking about that article that called Neon White a fusion of Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and Overwatch. Frankly, an insane combination. Where'd they even get those comparisons from?
ngl this makes so much sense. ive hated these repeat articles of reddit stories turned "news" and getting push notifications for them. this allllll comes together. great video!!
I hope Valnet doesn’t try to strike your video like they did to Fireborn. Fireborn made a similar video, interviewing various Valnet employees and exposing the company for exploitative practices. However, Fireborn ended up having to remove the video because it was hit with a copyright strike. It’s quite obvious that Valnet was attempting to silence criticism, given the nature of the strike, so I sincerely hope that your video doesn’t get attacked as well.
This explains why I keep seeing new articles every week about the console release of Stardew Valley's 1.6 update, despite there being no actual news. They front load the post with meaningless fluff or spoilers that I want to avoid and all end with the exact same quote from Eric Barone, which roughly boils down to, it'll be ready when it's ready. I stopped paying them any attention a long time ago, which makes me concerned (no pun intended) that I'll completely overlook the news of when the console update _actually_ releases.
Hollow Knight speedrunner Fireborn also covered a topic similar to this, going over Valnet in more detail and the issues with gaming journalism. Might be a good chaser to this video
Fireborn unironically has been threatened with copyright abuse. You can search it if Valnet didn't strike them already. He has 2 strikes so far, third one and he's gone, even the main channel. Unless it's the MrBadim situation, he's being hard targeted for criticism. But yeah, even if that was resolved(I checked), if you dare speak against scammers or giant corpos, be prepared to be nuked.
A pokemon video with a touch of existential dread is what I've come to expect and love from your channel. Thank you for always digging deeper and explaining your point in such a good though-out way :)
É tão importante discutir e comunicar esses problemas que a busca de visualização e de tentativa de visualização tem causado. A gente percebe a diferença entre os artigos, e como a tentativa desses sites de se tornarem mais predominantes, e o pior, conseguindo fazer isso! Mais do que tudo isso, o foco principal e o que a gente pode mesmo fazer é o que vc disse Ceci, apoiar os produtores de conteúdo pequenos, que gostamos e que sabemos que fazem essa divulgação por amor e por gostarem das discursões e tópicos que trazem. É muito legal ver como você foi capaz de trazer esse diálogo de forma gostosa e compreensiva, colocando a a culpa para esse problema no real vilão de tudo, as empresas que realizam isso, e não nos escritores que estão literalmente só tentando pagar as suas contas. Ps: Boa sorte na mudança, sei que é o inferno todo esse processo! Cheiro de um fã aleatório da tua terra natal!
This is such an insightful and important video. I remember visiting a niche Pokémon blog called Pokémon Wolken when I was younger and it was like a whole new world for me. So sad that it’s gone, as are many similar blogs from back in the day
Fascinating video. I despise trying to search information on games, articles are just 90% ads and talking about garbage that has no relation to the “topic” at all.
This makes so much sense. I noticed a while ago that ScreenRant and GameRant were basically the same site and often had egregious mistakes, so I just started avoiding them when possible. Then I noticed in the past couple of weeks that Game Rant is uploading at least 1 article a day about "Switch giveaways", which are all talking about the NSO icon pieces that are currently available and changing every few days. I have zero difficulty believing they have an army of overworked and underpaid writers to grind out as much content as possible.
No fucking way GameRant rejected my application for them after being a writer in the game dev industry myself only to unironically possibly use AI slop instead 💀 Karma always comes from the most unexpected of places I guess lol
So happy you came up on my front page! Really enjoy this type of content and really appreciate your insight on the topic. It scares me how little people think about how destructive AI can be, but also how little people think about the poor conditions writers are put into just to keep up on today's internet
Great video! You cooked with this one! It really feels there’s a lack of genuine love when it comes to articles these days. I remember I used to read many news and gaming articles around 2014-2016 but then after a few years the articles changed too much to the point I would rather find information on twitter or RUclipsrs that covered what I like. I feel it’s our job as users to stay informed and find direct sources for information because you can’t trust websites like you could before.
Instant sub. You’re amazing. Your choice of subject matter was something new that I haven’t seen much coverage about. The way you presented the topic was engaging and captivating! Your energy is immaculate and perfect for RUclips. I know for a fact you’re gonna take off.
noo you JUST started, your content is AMAZING like whatt??? how deep can something truly be? i was not just imagining and overinterpreting things? i love it so much! i will turn on post notifications and you can bet i will be here when youre back
from the comments ive read on the community post about this video being unlisted, its probably because she was putting herself at risk of a cease and desist from gamerant (something like that happened to another youtuber that just showed gamerant articles)
This was a really illuminating video, and as someone who's been on the internet for a long time, I definitely see this happening. Thanks, and best of luck with your own Shaymin hunt! Mine took me over a year, but it was totally worth it.
I have trust issues in many news outlet since at least a decade ago. Thank you for making this video and succinctly and amazingly explains my whole aversion to them in one video. Keep up the good work.
Opa Opa, cai no seu canal de paraquedas. Queria dizer que é um alivio ver outra brasileira que gosta muito do conteúdo da Catherine e de shiny hunting num geral, é um dos meus conteúdos favoritos do youtube. Infelizmente é um conteudo que ainda considero bem nichado na comunidade brasileira então achar o seu canal foi uma benção na minha feed kk, ainda planejo assistir a todos os vídeos do seu canal. Also, espero que não se importe por eu comentar em português, eu amei muito seu conteúdo, você tem um potencial incrível para se tornar uma grande criadora na comunidade de Pokémon e em outras num geral! 💜
This is the first video of yours I've ever seen, and I'm fascinated by how well this video is put together. Your "pulling you in" section does a superb job, and isn't rife with unrelated segues; it's informative and interesting. The whole body of the video's subject is also excellent, transitioning from a perfect pop culture topic, like Pokemon and creators who love that property, and exposing issues of exploitation in lesser developed countries. The transitions, breaking up of content into chapters, even your brief, but humorous, digressions work toward the end goal of exposing the topic without losing the viewer. Everything works toward a single endpoint to inform the people listening/watching. You've only got 9k subs now, but you do video essays better than some of the biggest on this platform. Instant sub, from me.
GIRL you were such a good surprise in my recommendations!!!! accidentally found your channel while searching for pokemon content for lunch and then got in your well-made passability video and immediately subscribed!! huge fan of your content, beijocas do brasil 💋❤
Wow, I never thought the source of those mid articles was not a shiny new thing but one of the oldest tricks in the book. At least humans are still getting paid, but this is something that needs to be more well-known. Thanks for exposing it, beautiful parting messages. Hope your moving out goes smoothly!
I find it too hard to reject dead internet theory. It's so depressing. We can still make the peer to peer internet from back then. We just need to take the hard first step. The sunk cost fallacy should not chain you to the misery that is twitter, reddit, tiktok, tumblr, discord... make a personal website, a blog, join a webring, participate in forums
Serebii is one of my favorite websites of all time. Whenever i get interested in a new game or subject i get so sad when there isnt documentation like serebii.
Could not be happier that these obnoxious "reports" are being talked about, REALLY could not be happier that there's no drama about that adorable Shaymin, I was ready to cry
The rant sites have obviously awful content when you try reading any of the content. I loved you doing some more research to look into how these rant sites are created.
It was really interesting to also hear about your personal experience as a writer. The company's over optimization of the articles definitely explains why so many of them feel like they were writen by AI and feel souless. Respect to the writers for putting out so much content. Also sending lots of shiny luck for the shaymin hunt and the move! You got this queen!! Tysm for the content! - Dear Stanger Online
Descobri o seu canal poucas semanas atrás, e por alguma razão eu só me dei conta de que você era brasileira quando mencionou o Poképlus e Miutsu KKKKKKKK Seu conteúdo é incrível, Ceci, muito obrigada pelo trabalho, espero que seu canal cresça bastante! Fico muito feliz de ver mulheres abordando essa paixão que temos por Pokémon ♥
I always ask my friends what websites I should go to if I want real information. more often than not they can just tell me what I'm looking for, or send me to a website with exactly what I'm looking for, not to mention the community I can find there!
I loved this video; you’re so enjoyable to watch, and I think you’re super thoughtful and encouraging even when discussing depressing shit. Good luck with your move!
It honestly hurts knowing that something as horrible as AI isn't even the most unethical AI-related practice. The fact that a lot of companies use underpaid human-labor and pass it off as AI to secure funding only to NOT use that funding to create actual AI systems is downright disgusting and researching this topic has taught me this happens a ton and it's going to keep happening until language models can accomplish what they want to claim to be for free and readily available.
I also finished a Shiny hunt that I've wanted to do since I was a kid. I pulled out my Colosseum Bonus Disc and reset Ruby a whole bunch to get that Shiny Jirachi. Finally got what I'd told myself I'd do for years. I was not, however, actually doing the hunt for years. Funnily enough, it was on the save that I finally picked May after all these years that I got it. Or uh.... "A" I guess she's called in this save file. Also funnily enough, it is extremely easy to clone Pokemon in Gen 3. I can clone Jirachi by the Box-full.
I would argue having “outrageous” mistakes like the ground type comment could be seen as a positive for both screen rant and the freelancer because this might encourage people to share it around allowing the website to show more ads
Not super related, but just another example of content farming and not actually knowing much about the franchise the article is about: the Damian Wayne article caught my eye during that scroll through. The phrasing of the title and blurb makes it sound as if when/if the current DC movie and show projects under James Gunn introduce a Robin for the first time it would be Damian. That would be a strange choice because Damian may be the current Robin but he’s not exactly the first and jumping straight to him would be a massive leap forward on the timeline. He’s the 4th or 5th (depending on if you count Steph) Robin because Robin is a legacy character/name and the previous Robins have each been first introduced (in comics) as kids, generally around the 8-12 range for their first appearances, and since grown up. The first (Dick/Nightwing) and second (Jason/Red Hood) Robins are both adults now and the 3rd (Tim/Red Robin) was an adult as of the pre-new-52 continuity but is 16 in the new 52 and rebirth continuities. And there was a long time between the end of Jason’s time as Robin and the start of Tim’s. So it’s many many years into the Batfamily’s existence before Damian is even BORN and he doesn’t become Robin until he’s 8 and Tim is the Robin he comes after and already mid teens when it happens. It’s not impossible that the first time we see a Robin in this version of the world it may not be right at the start of the timeline and maybe Dick will already be Nightwing at that point and either Jason will be Robin, Tim will be Robin, or it will be between Robins. But jumping straight to Damian is a MASSIVE skip over soooo much lore and would be incredibly confusing to viewers not as well versed in the source material of the comics. To put that in perspective, imagine playing Legends Arceus and suddenly meeting Nemona and she wasn’t sent back in time, she’s just there. Even more… imagine you don’t know very much about Pokémon except Legends and some basic, mainly Gen 1 related info and have no idea who Nemona is or where she fits into the world or what makes her unique compared to any given character and there’s little to know explanation of any of that. You’d be super confused, especially once she started talking about Geeta or the player character or Arvin or Penny (as Damian would surely end up at least occasionally mentioning the other Robins as well as other characters in general that you’d have even less idea about for the same reasons you’d have no idea about him PLUS the fact they’re only mentioned and you’re not directly watching them like, say, Jon Kent/Superboy or any of his small army of fur babies, especially Alfred the Cat because… if you don’t know who Damian is and then he starts talking about the butler except actually he’s not talking about the utter but a cat he named after him… yeah…). The phrasing of the title and blurb makes it sound like introducing Robin = introducing Damian which would be incredibly unlikely at this point. Hell, the Young Justice cartoon was based loosely on comics that had Tim as Robin in the team as well as Impulse (a speedster character of similar age, they were younger in those comics so maybe 13 or 14 range) but they knew that going straight to the 3rd Robin and a character introduced so far into the continuity would be a lot for the show and viewers (especially those with less comics knowledge) to handle right away and they also wanted to do a generational thing so the show instead used Dick and Wally (OG Kid Flash, from the same time Dick was Robin and his BFF) in their place. Be strange for Gunn to not handle it similarly. Even in the cases that come to mind that started with a later Robin (the Arkham games and DC Universe Online both using Tim, who was the most recent Robin that also had enough to work with as both originally came out when Damian was brand new and not as developed a character) it’s very different due to their nature of being video games very heavily targeted more towards people already fans of the characters and who know them reasonably well and were more focused on recreating a version of the DCU as it was at the time they first came out. And DCUO especially has an extremely different timeline with its episodes taking place at very different times and in very different orders than in the comics (Dick had JUST become Nightwing when the Judas Contract storyline happened in the comics and I’m not sure Bruce/Batman had even met Jason yet but in DCUO it came out as an episode in a game where Tim was Robin up until that point and the episode made him Red Robin and introduced Damian, neither of these characters having existed when the comic it’s based on came out). Plus the Arkham game series is more contained than a whole shared cinematic universe. So just in general both of those work very differently than anything Gunn would be working on and even those started with Tim and not Damian. I love all of these characters but the premise of that article just doesn’t make sense.
The Pokemon type mistakes happened to me! I livestream making Pokemon foods, and when I posted one to Reddit, GameRant wrote an article, and mentioned some of my other Pokemon foods: "the Reddit user even made a pizza that looked like the Electric/Grass-type Poliwag." 🤷♀️ I'm still curious what the deal is with all the articles from the other sites that changed their titles! Are they all owned by Valnet?
Great video as always, and I hope people start directing their hatred of AI towards matters like this instead of just the technology. The reason we have plagiarist generators of word/image slop now is because companies have an interest in generating slop to begin with, and they were already generating slop in other ways before. AI brought these issues to light by how quickly it can generate content, but it's not the source of the problem, it's just its final form.
Great video, this is how I found out that Joe Merrick is now officially recognised by TPC. That’s sick I’m so happy for him, my go to website whenever I need to look something up.
fireb0rn also made a really good video about the entire game rant and screen rant issue, while even interviewing previous and current workers for the company. It has been taken down because of false copyright claims, but the channel Aqua_Wren has reuploaded it. I highly recommend it for people who want to learn more about the issue with online journalism as a whole
As usual, it was a very nice video. I was unsuspecting of game journos being part of this 'death of the internet' thing. It's something I'm fairly dismissive with but I see how it's all related now. And yes, support your creators! Which brings to question: do you plan any alternatives to youtube channel membership? I'm not really planning yet but I believe it'd be nice for example to have a ko-fi set up.
I think that those alternatives will have to come later. While I'm super happy that so many people want to help me somehow, as an immigrant, I'm in a situation where my visa doesn't let me receive any money from RUclips, as I can't have any income that is not from my authorised job. Hopefully by next year I can have this figured out, and I can collect the outstanding money from RUclips and look into creating alternatives!
Games journalism is truly a crazy industry to be in. When you're not hated on by the audience, employers will take advantage of you and then claim that we should be and lucky we're able to be in this profession. We're honestly stuck between a rock and a hard place. I honestly envy solo independant creators as I'm so scarred from the industry but also being POC and LGBT doesn't make it easy for me to be "relatable" for the average audience member and that's lead me to networking and getting into journalism from that point of view, only to learn how much of a hell hole it is.
Honestly, as a trans Latin American woman - people are always happy to see people like them covering gaming and occupying these spaces. I got so many lovely comments from trans latin people and I can speak that there is DEFINITELY an audience. It isn't easy, there are hate comments, but there is an audience
@@cecilily for sure, you’re absolutely right but as a dark skinned person, it’s still hard to break into certain places when you can be judged instantly from a thumbnail or a split second. From experience, I can tell the majority of gaming audiences tend to relate more to people who look like themselves a bit more. The struggle is real but love your videos. Keep fighting the good fight
Proud supporter of ONLY lovingly crafted fan sites (excluding stuff like Fandom cause while I'm sure the people are lovely, the company is scummy) and passionate RUclipsrs 💗
Thank you for reaching out to me about this! This topic is really fascinating to me which may seem crazy considering my upbeat super positive content. I think it’s really important to call out shady business and journalism practices. It’s really a shame that things have turned out like this- I really hope entertainment/gaming journalism can improve and writers can be paid what they deserve to be paid. And best of luck on your hunt for Shaymin!! It’ll be entirely worth it once it shines!
As a fellow Shaymin enjoyer, congrats on the achievement. Hope things go better for you.
You’re my comfort RUclipsr, I love your content so much 😭
Catherine is a great pokétuber and brings joy to all
Handled it like royalty, I love your videos!!!!
Wooper Troopers make some noise :D
There was a "gaming journalism" article someone showed me once that was like "Pokemon fan makes incredible fusion of Rotom and Ho-Oh"... and it was just an article-ification of uncredited fanart of a sprite my friend designed for Pokemon Infinite Fusion.
I see so many of those
DUDE I GET THOSE ALL THE DANG TIME
"Fan designs incredible Past Paradox form for Dragapult!"
*Preamble about the Pokemon with a somewhat functional Reddit link at the end*
Oh yea i saw that one
it was very funny
I block any sites that do that @@KrissyBlues
I see the RUclips shorts equivalent, RUclipsrs just taking fanart and reposting it here and adding nothing to it. They at least credit the artist a fair about of the time, but it still pisses me off
My favorite is "When is 'X game' releasing?" A long article that basically says "we don't know"
That happens for movies too lol, "when is X coming to netflix?" 3000 words laters and the answer is "we don't know if this movie will ever come to streaming services at all"
When is the next Nintendo Direct?
“When is Silksong releasing?”
**long ass article rambling about what hollow knight and Silksong are, as if the people clicking on it don’t actually know**
“We don’t know”
I hate getting teased by gaming articles that are "RED DEAD 2 NEW UPDATE!!!!" and it turns out to be a mod....
Fr, my news feed is full of "Pokemon ZA leaks" and its just fanarts 😐
thats like how every single month a wave of articles come out about "NEW THINGS COMING IN ANIMAL CROSSING NEW HORIZONS" and its just the monthly seasonal critter rotation
@@Gatitogamer142 Hey, the fan art is good though. Sad that it’s being stolen for clickbait.
I fell for those kind of titles like 5 times about Fallout because of the show lol
yes pretty woman sing me your siren song about the horrors of capitalism i would love to hear it while working on art and playing minecraft thank you kindly
watching these amazing vessays while playing minecraft/working on projects is amazinggg ✨✨
SO REAL FOR THAT ACTUALLY
This puts the entirety of gaming journalism to shaymin
You did not- I took me a while..
Oh hey, another video taking Valnet to court. As someone who has written thousands of articles for them who stopped because I just couldn't stomach it anymore, you are only scratching the surface on them.
@@agramuglia I imagine that things go way deeper than this, but also I think that diving much more could end up resulting in some trouble. I was a bit hesitant to speak openly about a company like this, but I believe it is an important conversation to have and I tried doing it in the most responsible way I could.
I... wouldn't worry. I know editors who are have said just about everything under the sun about their negative experiences with Valnet. They don't engage with criticism because they are aware that, by doing this, it brings it higher into SEO rankings. They also tend to rewrite what writers submit, so sometimes, you can write something, provide evidence, and they'll just remove it for SEO reasons.
@@agramugliawhat does SEO mean here?
@@dkh161 search engine optimization
@@dkh161 Rewatch the video, bud.
gamerant does this with the stardew valley subreddit too!
Not just Pokemon and Stardew, and not just Reddit, either.
They trawl everywhere they can, and dump out the most worthless trash by twisting a 3 word tweet into an article.
20:56 my coworker does this too! My favorite one of the ones he wrote was “best gift cards to give hurricane victims”
Who on Earth is googling THAT xD
I was not suprised they got Shiny Catherine hunt wrong, they made an "SILKSONG IS RELEASONG SOON!!!" article when the social media person from Team Cherry (Hollow Knight creators) wrote a message on discord.
The message wasn't even related to the game
I just finished Part 1. The bit about Amazon hiring workers from India to monitor their "cashier free" stores reminded me of how Meta did the same thing by underpaying Kenyan workers who are handling its content moderation. (A company called Sama is outsourced for this work). The workers often see disturbing images for a mere pittance.
Update: Looks like the rest of the video is about that and content mills. Yeah...it's everywhere.
Update 2: Good luck with the move!!!
As you know, global capitalism runs on grossly underpaid and exploited labor.
The base underlying problem of AI, a threat far bigger than “mass media becomes unbearably same-y, but at least I have a brainstorming buddy”, and also far smaller than “we’re gonna start running out of lithium by 2030”, is that it’s all founded on the disgustingly named Mechanical Turk, run by Amazon, and the many companies that copied its model.
Learning algorithms need tagged data to function on a fundamental level. Humans should tag data, because an automated system would very quickly mark everything it gets as “data”, because that takes the least computation possible. Models need new tagged data regularly to do a good job, and this problem grows exponentially.
All projects working with tagged data, regardless of context, are working with finely ground blood diamonds, formed from an undocumented large underpaid workforce, who still are receiving so many tasks at once that they have to write their own automation software to make no money.
The moment you said gamerant I already knew. They really are just gaming news fodder and dont really do any research and I've even seen copy pasted articles on there
its a shame that this video was unlisted, i hope you get to talk about topics like this sometime later in future, i really enjoyed it
im forever waiting for the day that someone makes a browser extension that completely blocks all valnet-owned properties from showing up on search engines.
great video btw, this was an instant sub 🙇♂️ its literally so cathartic seeing more people cover just how terrible this corpo is. more awareness of their shitty behaviour is needed 🙏🙏
found (and caught) a shiny magnemite in the soulsilver safari zone while watching 👍
safari week :) i sadly didnt catch anything 😭
I know this bit was more of a footnote, but the bit about younger people using tiktok as a search engine being pitted against the idea of searching reddit, that's a really good way to frame it. I absolutely rely on reddit to get answers that i can sorta trust, and thinking about how unreliable the internet has become as reason for why some younger folk aren't good with wider bits of the internet; because the internet isn't good for learning anymore.
thank you for being so open about your social beliefs, i feel like there is a lack of honesty about sociopolitical topics like capitalism, transphobia, and colonization, and other horrific injustices among many youtube spheres, especially pokemon. your words and your channel are a breath of fresh air 💗
Oh wow, what a nice wholesome video! ^^
Surely nothing bad will happen...
You sharing ur experience with the internet at a young genuinely resonates with me, and it made me feel so sad about a thing that sparked such wonder when I was a child being ruined by corporate
As someone who used to work in the video game industry until not too long ago, I'm sadly all too familiar with this being a problem that goes beyond journalism. Thank you for shedding light on this, it's so important for people to be aware. Your channel is wonderful - I think part of why many people gravitate towards RUclipsrs is because so many other platforms have all but completely lost their human element.
"An innocent fun innocuous topic" Idk having "the death of gaming journalism" in the title is already very charged lmaoo 💀 The internet will never recover from the horrors of Gamergate 😭
Excited to finally watch a video about actually legitimate criticism of gaming journalism and not a thinly veiled harassment campaign though!
I might have changed the title A COUPLE of times during the working of this video 😅
I was also reminded of gamergate.
@@greenamber9827 Yeah. That was a shitshow. Remember Feminist Frequency? They were the Just Stop Oil of feminism, in that they caused tons of issues and only made the image of actual feminists worse.
I saw an article a while ago titled something along the lines of:
"Breath of the Wild and Horizon Zero Dawn Meet in This Brand-New Open-World Adventure!"
...and it was Monster Hunter Rise, which isn't even remotely similar to BotW or HZD gameplay-wise, or even open-world in the first place.
These kind of articles kill games too because it makes people think this game is like that game and ends up linking them together rather than stand on it's own
Look at Palworld and IGN calling it "Pokemon with guns" when it's nothing like it
Forever thinking about that article that called Neon White a fusion of Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and Overwatch. Frankly, an insane combination. Where'd they even get those comparisons from?
@@PixelRoserade They all have graphics! That's the best I got...
@@SoluKissin The only part of the combination that even makes any sense is, like, Overwatch, and that's only because gun.
appreciate the captions on the video :)
I never publish a video without them :)
ngl this makes so much sense. ive hated these repeat articles of reddit stories turned "news" and getting push notifications for them. this allllll comes together. great video!!
This popped up in my recommended and all I have to say is this is amazing!!! Very well researched and narrated, thank you for the great video!!
the same thing has happened to candyevie multiple times, because she caught shiny pokemon she wanted for a while: like her shiny moltres in frlg
I hope Valnet doesn’t try to strike your video like they did to Fireborn. Fireborn made a similar video, interviewing various Valnet employees and exposing the company for exploitative practices. However, Fireborn ended up having to remove the video because it was hit with a copyright strike. It’s quite obvious that Valnet was attempting to silence criticism, given the nature of the strike, so I sincerely hope that your video doesn’t get attacked as well.
I'm already happy with the reach the video had, honestly. I am willing to take a strike to bring this story out, even if it's just for a few days.
THE QUEEN HAS POSTED
i love your videos, the video essay is my favorite type of content. i love you so much!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE SHINYCATHERINE SO MUCH OMG
ME TOO
@@cecilily SHES SO FUN TO WATCH AND HAS ACTUALLY INSPIRED ME TO SHINY HUNT AS WELL, I HAVE SO MANY SHINIES NOW ITS SO FUN
This explains why I keep seeing new articles every week about the console release of Stardew Valley's 1.6 update, despite there being no actual news. They front load the post with meaningless fluff or spoilers that I want to avoid and all end with the exact same quote from Eric Barone, which roughly boils down to, it'll be ready when it's ready. I stopped paying them any attention a long time ago, which makes me concerned (no pun intended) that I'll completely overlook the news of when the console update _actually_ releases.
Hollow Knight speedrunner Fireborn also covered a topic similar to this, going over Valnet in more detail and the issues with gaming journalism. Might be a good chaser to this video
I DM'ed fireb0rn after this video was published, hopefully he gets the message
Fireborn unironically has been threatened with copyright abuse. You can search it if Valnet didn't strike them already. He has 2 strikes so far, third one and he's gone, even the main channel.
Unless it's the MrBadim situation, he's being hard targeted for criticism.
But yeah, even if that was resolved(I checked), if you dare speak against scammers or giant corpos, be prepared to be nuked.
A pokemon video with a touch of existential dread is what I've come to expect and love from your channel. Thank you for always digging deeper and explaining your point in such a good though-out way :)
As someone who knows almost nothing about the shiny hunting community, this title is absolutely WILD to me
É tão importante discutir e comunicar esses problemas que a busca de visualização e de tentativa de visualização tem causado. A gente percebe a diferença entre os artigos, e como a tentativa desses sites de se tornarem mais predominantes, e o pior, conseguindo fazer isso! Mais do que tudo isso, o foco principal e o que a gente pode mesmo fazer é o que vc disse Ceci, apoiar os produtores de conteúdo pequenos, que gostamos e que sabemos que fazem essa divulgação por amor e por gostarem das discursões e tópicos que trazem. É muito legal ver como você foi capaz de trazer esse diálogo de forma gostosa e compreensiva, colocando a a culpa para esse problema no real vilão de tudo, as empresas que realizam isso, e não nos escritores que estão literalmente só tentando pagar as suas contas.
Ps: Boa sorte na mudança, sei que é o inferno todo esse processo! Cheiro de um fã aleatório da tua terra natal!
This is such an insightful and important video. I remember visiting a niche Pokémon blog called Pokémon Wolken when I was younger and it was like a whole new world for me. So sad that it’s gone, as are many similar blogs from back in the day
Fascinating video. I despise trying to search information on games, articles are just 90% ads and talking about garbage that has no relation to the “topic” at all.
This makes so much sense. I noticed a while ago that ScreenRant and GameRant were basically the same site and often had egregious mistakes, so I just started avoiding them when possible.
Then I noticed in the past couple of weeks that Game Rant is uploading at least 1 article a day about "Switch giveaways", which are all talking about the NSO icon pieces that are currently available and changing every few days. I have zero difficulty believing they have an army of overworked and underpaid writers to grind out as much content as possible.
No fucking way GameRant rejected my application for them after being a writer in the game dev industry myself only to unironically possibly use AI slop instead 💀 Karma always comes from the most unexpected of places I guess lol
So happy you came up on my front page! Really enjoy this type of content and really appreciate your insight on the topic. It scares me how little people think about how destructive AI can be, but also how little people think about the poor conditions writers are put into just to keep up on today's internet
Great video! You cooked with this one! It really feels there’s a lack of genuine love when it comes to articles these days. I remember I used to read many news and gaming articles around 2014-2016 but then after a few years the articles changed too much to the point I would rather find information on twitter or RUclipsrs that covered what I like. I feel it’s our job as users to stay informed and find direct sources for information because you can’t trust websites like you could before.
When I heard "this is my last video here" MY HEART STOPPED.
Then I heard the rest of the sentence 😂
Instant sub. You’re amazing. Your choice of subject matter was something new that I haven’t seen much coverage about. The way you presented the topic was engaging and captivating! Your energy is immaculate and perfect for RUclips. I know for a fact you’re gonna take off.
Thank you, this was lovely to read
noo you JUST started, your content is AMAZING like whatt??? how deep can something truly be? i was not just imagining and overinterpreting things? i love it so much! i will turn on post notifications and you can bet i will be here when youre back
"you know me well dear stranger online" lol
Bro, the part of Amazon ''AI'' and cameras from India was crazy, like, wtf 💀
Amazon India, AI
this has been in my watch later for a few days and i've only now gotten around to watching it - i'm curious, why's it unlisted now?
from the comments ive read on the community post about this video being unlisted, its probably because she was putting herself at risk of a cease and desist from gamerant (something like that happened to another youtuber that just showed gamerant articles)
This was a really illuminating video, and as someone who's been on the internet for a long time, I definitely see this happening.
Thanks, and best of luck with your own Shaymin hunt! Mine took me over a year, but it was totally worth it.
Genuinely thoughtful video! I watched a couple of your other videos and really enjoyed them, but this is next level! Subscribed~
o wow I love shinycatherine didn’t expect this to come up
I have trust issues in many news outlet since at least a decade ago. Thank you for making this video and succinctly and amazingly explains my whole aversion to them in one video. Keep up the good work.
Great video! Love the way you managed to rope those different themes together so cohesively. Happy pride!
I truly enjoyed this video. It was very refreshing to watch and I’m so glad I found your channel !! :D
Opa Opa, cai no seu canal de paraquedas. Queria dizer que é um alivio ver outra brasileira que gosta muito do conteúdo da Catherine e de shiny hunting num geral, é um dos meus conteúdos favoritos do youtube. Infelizmente é um conteudo que ainda considero bem nichado na comunidade brasileira então achar o seu canal foi uma benção na minha feed kk, ainda planejo assistir a todos os vídeos do seu canal.
Also, espero que não se importe por eu comentar em português, eu amei muito seu conteúdo, você tem um potencial incrível para se tornar uma grande criadora na comunidade de Pokémon e em outras num geral!
💜
This is the first video of yours I've ever seen, and I'm fascinated by how well this video is put together. Your "pulling you in" section does a superb job, and isn't rife with unrelated segues; it's informative and interesting.
The whole body of the video's subject is also excellent, transitioning from a perfect pop culture topic, like Pokemon and creators who love that property, and exposing issues of exploitation in lesser developed countries. The transitions, breaking up of content into chapters, even your brief, but humorous, digressions work toward the end goal of exposing the topic without losing the viewer. Everything works toward a single endpoint to inform the people listening/watching.
You've only got 9k subs now, but you do video essays better than some of the biggest on this platform. Instant sub, from me.
It's always a good day when cecilily posts a video
GIRL you were such a good surprise in my recommendations!!!! accidentally found your channel while searching for pokemon content for lunch and then got in your well-made passability video and immediately subscribed!! huge fan of your content, beijocas do brasil 💋❤
Wow, I never thought the source of those mid articles was not a shiny new thing but one of the oldest tricks in the book. At least humans are still getting paid, but this is something that needs to be more well-known. Thanks for exposing it, beautiful parting messages. Hope your moving out goes smoothly!
I find it too hard to reject dead internet theory. It's so depressing.
We can still make the peer to peer internet from back then. We just need to take the hard first step. The sunk cost fallacy should not chain you to the misery that is twitter, reddit, tiktok, tumblr, discord... make a personal website, a blog, join a webring, participate in forums
I find really funny that earlier today I got a notification from ShinyCatherine and, a couple of hours later, this pops up in my feed.
Serebii is one of my favorite websites of all time. Whenever i get interested in a new game or subject i get so sad when there isnt documentation like serebii.
at first i thought this was something about Catherine doing something bad and I was almost really scared because I love her content 😭
No, Cecilily, they're gonna false strike this video like they did with Fireb0rn, youtube sided with them, his video is still gone
I learned about the @fireb0rn situation after posting, but honestly, I just hope I can get enough views until they do. Make sure to share it :)
I think it's worse: I think they put major mistakes in the articles to increase engagement.
Could not be happier that these obnoxious "reports" are being talked about, REALLY could not be happier that there's no drama about that adorable Shaymin, I was ready to cry
The rant sites have obviously awful content when you try reading any of the content. I loved you doing some more research to look into how these rant sites are created.
I love suporting small content creators, they always deliver TOP quality, that's why I subscribed to you :)
How did you know that I am a deer stranger? Witchcraft!!
i genuinely thought i was the only person that noticed this problem thank god this is a real thing that people care about
It was really interesting to also hear about your personal experience as a writer. The company's over optimization of the articles definitely explains why so many of them feel like they were writen by AI and feel souless. Respect to the writers for putting out so much content. Also sending lots of shiny luck for the shaymin hunt and the move! You got this queen!! Tysm for the content! - Dear Stanger Online
Wonderful video! Wishing the best for you moving out!
To be fair electross is immune to ground type moves, but thats the exeption not the rule (not to mention it is not even in bdsp)
Descobri o seu canal poucas semanas atrás, e por alguma razão eu só me dei conta de que você era brasileira quando mencionou o Poképlus e Miutsu KKKKKKKK
Seu conteúdo é incrível, Ceci, muito obrigada pelo trabalho, espero que seu canal cresça bastante! Fico muito feliz de ver mulheres abordando essa paixão que temos por Pokémon ♥
A few months ago, bots were to be trained on the data on Reddit. It looks like these are the "fruits" of those scraping.
I love finding great small channels. I get fancy new good stuff to watch but I also get to say “I was there before they were popular.”
I always ask my friends what websites I should go to if I want real information. more often than not they can just tell me what I'm looking for, or send me to a website with exactly what I'm looking for, not to mention the community I can find there!
I loved this video; you’re so enjoyable to watch, and I think you’re super thoughtful and encouraging even when discussing depressing shit. Good luck with your move!
It honestly hurts knowing that something as horrible as AI isn't even the most unethical AI-related practice. The fact that a lot of companies use underpaid human-labor and pass it off as AI to secure funding only to NOT use that funding to create actual AI systems is downright disgusting and researching this topic has taught me this happens a ton and it's going to keep happening until language models can accomplish what they want to claim to be for free and readily available.
I also finished a Shiny hunt that I've wanted to do since I was a kid. I pulled out my Colosseum Bonus Disc and reset Ruby a whole bunch to get that Shiny Jirachi. Finally got what I'd told myself I'd do for years. I was not, however, actually doing the hunt for years.
Funnily enough, it was on the save that I finally picked May after all these years that I got it. Or uh.... "A" I guess she's called in this save file.
Also funnily enough, it is extremely easy to clone Pokemon in Gen 3. I can clone Jirachi by the Box-full.
Fantastic video, subbed!
I would argue having “outrageous” mistakes like the ground type comment could be seen as a positive for both screen rant and the freelancer because this might encourage people to share it around allowing the website to show more ads
Great video and I do find it annoying that I have to scroll down to find serebii, I love how easy it is to use that site. Joe has done an amazing job!
Gengar plushie in the back, you gotta brush *all* your teeth! That's probably why you missing the top one...
great video! I just found your channel a few days ago and have been really enjoying your stuff :] hope your move goes smoothly!
Consistently I will read a post and see articles written about the same reddit post
Not super related, but just another example of content farming and not actually knowing much about the franchise the article is about: the Damian Wayne article caught my eye during that scroll through. The phrasing of the title and blurb makes it sound as if when/if the current DC movie and show projects under James Gunn introduce a Robin for the first time it would be Damian. That would be a strange choice because Damian may be the current Robin but he’s not exactly the first and jumping straight to him would be a massive leap forward on the timeline. He’s the 4th or 5th (depending on if you count Steph) Robin because Robin is a legacy character/name and the previous Robins have each been first introduced (in comics) as kids, generally around the 8-12 range for their first appearances, and since grown up. The first (Dick/Nightwing) and second (Jason/Red Hood) Robins are both adults now and the 3rd (Tim/Red Robin) was an adult as of the pre-new-52 continuity but is 16 in the new 52 and rebirth continuities. And there was a long time between the end of Jason’s time as Robin and the start of Tim’s. So it’s many many years into the Batfamily’s existence before Damian is even BORN and he doesn’t become Robin until he’s 8 and Tim is the Robin he comes after and already mid teens when it happens. It’s not impossible that the first time we see a Robin in this version of the world it may not be right at the start of the timeline and maybe Dick will already be Nightwing at that point and either Jason will be Robin, Tim will be Robin, or it will be between Robins. But jumping straight to Damian is a MASSIVE skip over soooo much lore and would be incredibly confusing to viewers not as well versed in the source material of the comics. To put that in perspective, imagine playing Legends Arceus and suddenly meeting Nemona and she wasn’t sent back in time, she’s just there. Even more… imagine you don’t know very much about Pokémon except Legends and some basic, mainly Gen 1 related info and have no idea who Nemona is or where she fits into the world or what makes her unique compared to any given character and there’s little to know explanation of any of that. You’d be super confused, especially once she started talking about Geeta or the player character or Arvin or Penny (as Damian would surely end up at least occasionally mentioning the other Robins as well as other characters in general that you’d have even less idea about for the same reasons you’d have no idea about him PLUS the fact they’re only mentioned and you’re not directly watching them like, say, Jon Kent/Superboy or any of his small army of fur babies, especially Alfred the Cat because… if you don’t know who Damian is and then he starts talking about the butler except actually he’s not talking about the utter but a cat he named after him… yeah…).
The phrasing of the title and blurb makes it sound like introducing Robin = introducing Damian which would be incredibly unlikely at this point. Hell, the Young Justice cartoon was based loosely on comics that had Tim as Robin in the team as well as Impulse (a speedster character of similar age, they were younger in those comics so maybe 13 or 14 range) but they knew that going straight to the 3rd Robin and a character introduced so far into the continuity would be a lot for the show and viewers (especially those with less comics knowledge) to handle right away and they also wanted to do a generational thing so the show instead used Dick and Wally (OG Kid Flash, from the same time Dick was Robin and his BFF) in their place. Be strange for Gunn to not handle it similarly. Even in the cases that come to mind that started with a later Robin (the Arkham games and DC Universe Online both using Tim, who was the most recent Robin that also had enough to work with as both originally came out when Damian was brand new and not as developed a character) it’s very different due to their nature of being video games very heavily targeted more towards people already fans of the characters and who know them reasonably well and were more focused on recreating a version of the DCU as it was at the time they first came out. And DCUO especially has an extremely different timeline with its episodes taking place at very different times and in very different orders than in the comics (Dick had JUST become Nightwing when the Judas Contract storyline happened in the comics and I’m not sure Bruce/Batman had even met Jason yet but in DCUO it came out as an episode in a game where Tim was Robin up until that point and the episode made him Red Robin and introduced Damian, neither of these characters having existed when the comic it’s based on came out). Plus the Arkham game series is more contained than a whole shared cinematic universe. So just in general both of those work very differently than anything Gunn would be working on and even those started with Tim and not Damian. I love all of these characters but the premise of that article just doesn’t make sense.
The Pokemon type mistakes happened to me! I livestream making Pokemon foods, and when I posted one to Reddit, GameRant wrote an article, and mentioned some of my other Pokemon foods: "the Reddit user even made a pizza that looked like the Electric/Grass-type Poliwag." 🤷♀️
I'm still curious what the deal is with all the articles from the other sites that changed their titles! Are they all owned by Valnet?
Great video as always, and I hope people start directing their hatred of AI towards matters like this instead of just the technology. The reason we have plagiarist generators of word/image slop now is because companies have an interest in generating slop to begin with, and they were already generating slop in other ways before. AI brought these issues to light by how quickly it can generate content, but it's not the source of the problem, it's just its final form.
Great video, this is how I found out that Joe Merrick is now officially recognised by TPC. That’s sick I’m so happy for him, my go to website whenever I need to look something up.
Great video and good luck with the move!
Wow! It’s even worse than I thought! Yep, I’m glad when I need information for a game I’ll stick to reddit, RUclips or hell even tumblr.
You're brilliant. Thank you for creating content with integrity and intelligence.
fireb0rn also made a really good video about the entire game rant and screen rant issue, while even interviewing previous and current workers for the company. It has been taken down because of false copyright claims, but the channel Aqua_Wren has reuploaded it. I highly recommend it for people who want to learn more about the issue with online journalism as a whole
I’m a lover of gap-tooth-gengar. Hope to see them in the new flat!
As usual, it was a very nice video. I was unsuspecting of game journos being part of this 'death of the internet' thing. It's something I'm fairly dismissive with but I see how it's all related now. And yes, support your creators! Which brings to question: do you plan any alternatives to youtube channel membership? I'm not really planning yet but I believe it'd be nice for example to have a ko-fi set up.
I think that those alternatives will have to come later. While I'm super happy that so many people want to help me somehow, as an immigrant, I'm in a situation where my visa doesn't let me receive any money from RUclips, as I can't have any income that is not from my authorised job. Hopefully by next year I can have this figured out, and I can collect the outstanding money from RUclips and look into creating alternatives!
i miss the old days of forums, bc now as you say we have discord servers, but its not quite the same
Thank you for making me depressed 😂 no but genuinely I hope the internet/society/the world can start to improve sometime soon.
it’s a good day when cecilily uploads ❤
Games journalism is truly a crazy industry to be in. When you're not hated on by the audience, employers will take advantage of you and then claim that we should be and lucky we're able to be in this profession. We're honestly stuck between a rock and a hard place. I honestly envy solo independant creators as I'm so scarred from the industry but also being POC and LGBT doesn't make it easy for me to be "relatable" for the average audience member and that's lead me to networking and getting into journalism from that point of view, only to learn how much of a hell hole it is.
Honestly, as a trans Latin American woman - people are always happy to see people like them covering gaming and occupying these spaces. I got so many lovely comments from trans latin people and I can speak that there is DEFINITELY an audience. It isn't easy, there are hate comments, but there is an audience
@@cecilily for sure, you’re absolutely right but as a dark skinned person, it’s still hard to break into certain places when you can be judged instantly from a thumbnail or a split second. From experience, I can tell the majority of gaming audiences tend to relate more to people who look like themselves a bit more. The struggle is real but love your videos. Keep fighting the good fight
Proud supporter of ONLY lovingly crafted fan sites (excluding stuff like Fandom cause while I'm sure the people are lovely, the company is scummy) and passionate RUclipsrs 💗
I keep saying, this whole "write an essay in 500 words minimum" thing is partialy the reason journalismy is so shit these days.