This is a great comparison! I have a pair of KM 184s, and I've always wondered how they compare to the KM 84s. Based on these examples, I definitely prefer the overall tonality of the 84, but the lower noise of the 184 is definitely nice. I always end up doing some subtractive EQ to my recordings with the 184s, and now I know that what I'm actually doing is making them sound more like the original mic they're based on! The nice thing is that the EQ adjustments are easy and they work well, and I don't feel a need to replace my 184s with vintage 84s. Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison!
Yes the 184's are great to work with and super silent! You can get away with some eq adjustments, not totally the same. But if the source is sounding good, you'll have a great recording! Thank you for watching this video David!
I have both, and I like both very much, but not as much as my Beyer MC930s which are generally my favourite mics for acoustic guitar. I like the mellowness of the 84s for solo guitar. For ensemble playing, the brighter mids of the 184 help to cut through the mix. I also find it quite easy to remove the extra brightness of the 184s where necessary, using EQ.
I think the 84 is more natural, it doesn't have as much middle as the 184, and I think it's more realistic, since the guitar neck doesn't have as much middle range. Regardless, the 184 is an excellent microphone, perhaps the best you can buy. 84 one, as far as I know, is no longer produced. Great video, it shows the two microphones well. thank you very much
I have been using km184s for over 10 years. They’re bright and modern in a good way. If used with a good transformer or tube mic pre you get a great result. I did a studio session with original km84s on drum OH once. They sounded great but I’d save my money if it matters.
I had both mics. I sold the 184. The bass on the 184 was overhelming, other than the bass was a great mic. In your demo is not as noticeable as on my projects. ¿Maybe you eq or comoressed? I have 3 km84, and the sound is great.
I would say that the 184 and the 84 have their own mids… the 184 lacks what the 84 has in mids, but the 84 lacks what the 184 has in the mids. While the 84 is a little more neutral and flat with a touch of transformer warmth, the 184 is a lot more realistic and 3D, and a touch of brightness that has to occasionally be managed, and that brightness is highly manageable- not problematic,.. it’s just the way it is
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This is a great comparison! I have a pair of KM 184s, and I've always wondered how they compare to the KM 84s. Based on these examples, I definitely prefer the overall tonality of the 84, but the lower noise of the 184 is definitely nice. I always end up doing some subtractive EQ to my recordings with the 184s, and now I know that what I'm actually doing is making them sound more like the original mic they're based on! The nice thing is that the EQ adjustments are easy and they work well, and I don't feel a need to replace my 184s with vintage 84s.
Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison!
Yes the 184's are great to work with and super silent! You can get away with some eq adjustments, not totally the same. But if the source is sounding good, you'll have a great recording! Thank you for watching this video David!
I've used both and am happy with either. I prefer the 84s but I have no problem making the 184s work.
@@darianrundallmedia1305 awesome! Yes definitely and those 184’s are working great on dull sounding sources!
@@RemiLauw for me they work fine I just don't add any top end. Km84 is very smooth in the top and takes EQ well.
I have both, and I like both very much, but not as much as my Beyer MC930s which are generally my favourite mics for acoustic guitar.
I like the mellowness of the 84s for solo guitar. For ensemble playing, the brighter mids of the 184 help to cut through the mix. I also find it quite easy to remove the extra brightness of the 184s where necessary, using EQ.
Cool, going to check out the MC930's!
interested to know how you find self noise on the beyers. they sound lovely. i have a 201 which is amazing but quite a lot of self noise
I think the 84 is more natural, it doesn't have as much middle as the 184, and I think it's more realistic, since the guitar neck doesn't have as much middle range. Regardless, the 184 is an excellent microphone, perhaps the best you can buy. 84 one, as far as I know, is no longer produced. Great video, it shows the two microphones well. thank you very much
Thank you for watching and listening Robert. Yes you are totally right!
I have been using km184s for over 10 years. They’re bright and modern in a good way. If used with a good transformer or tube mic pre you get a great result. I did a studio session with original km84s on drum OH once. They sounded great but I’d save my money if it matters.
Yes definitely! Km184s are also working great on darker/dull sounding sources as well.
Great comparison, thanks!
Thank you for checking out Florin!
I had both mics.
I sold the 184.
The bass on the 184 was overhelming, other than the bass was a great mic.
In your demo is not as noticeable as on my projects. ¿Maybe you eq or comoressed?
I have 3 km84, and the sound is great.
Wow that’s strange!
Wow that’s strange!
@@RemiLauw great demo!!!
Thanks
Killer playing!
Thank you Miguel!
Best comparison ever. Km84 sits down. Km184 stands up.
Thank you Mike for the kind words! Km84 it is.
Best km84. Thanks!
Foh sure! Thank you for watching and listening!
84 sounds sweet!!!
yup!!!
I would say that the 184 and the 84 have their own mids… the 184 lacks what the 84 has in mids, but the 84 lacks what the 184 has in the mids. While the 84 is a little more neutral and flat with a touch of transformer warmth, the 184 is a lot more realistic and 3D, and a touch of brightness that has to occasionally be managed, and that brightness is highly manageable- not problematic,.. it’s just the way it is
nice said! Thank you for checking out!
@@RemiLauwThanks. I am using my ears to combine different observations I have found on the internet. I believe the world has a lot of opportunities to avoid splitting into camps, and build bridges of understanding :)
Whooo!
Thanks Sasha!
What mic bar are you using?
It's a K&M 23550 stereo bar!
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Bedankt!
The 84's sound like a record. The 184's sound like a demo.
🤣🤣 you definitely have to do a little bit more with the 184 to make it work.
Het lelijkste bij de 184 is hier de midrange, als je die naar smaak EQ'd hou je ongeveer de normale 84 midrange over.
Ja mids zijn erg scherp.
Nice👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🎸
Thanks Phil!