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To me, Luis is the most tragic character. Imagine dealing with the trauma of seeing your partner get mutilated. Then on top of all that, get hunted down and witness the death of nearly all of your friends ONLY for you to ultimately, have your eyes burned out and be forced to live a tortured and painful life for weeks until you're put down out of pity. Dang.
@Ace Ahmadzai Yeah, most are 24 going into a masters or doctorate degree program, working two minimum wage jobs to be able to pay those degrees. Some careers take 9 and 10 years and are filled with struggles.
@Ace Ahmadzai Or they just like doing their jobs lmao, did you apply for a barista position and get denied? Wouldn’t be surprised, Btw degrees aren’t shit anymore always better to get a trade but seeing how you clearly have no education you’ll just be stuck on public housing and food stamps for the rest of your life.
I feel like they wanted to do a serious version of Tucker & Dale with "don't judge a book by its cover" but that doesn't really work when the people you assume are villains are actually doing villainous shit.
It feels like they are going for what you said in the first half of film, so we have that court scene to make you feel that Foundation can be reasonable. Later they remember this is a slasher film in need of body count, and it's much morally easier to kill those Foundation members if they are all pure evil. Thus, there are traps clearly set for killing people and "blind zomibes" in tunnel, making the court scene like a joke.
If they blinded them and returned them to town its like okay that's more morally grey than evil but they blind them, r word them (youtubes fault,) and force them to spend the rest of their lives in caves. The film tries to claim they live in somewhat harmony with the town but they've set up lethal booby traps everywhere. You could trap the forest with non lethal traps if you don't want them to be evil. And if you want cool trap related kills why not have those non lethal traps kill people in unexpected ways. Also If they wanted to appear innocent why didn't they attempt to use a crude version of sign language to communicate when communications broke down due to lingual differences. You can't have a twist be the bad guys aren't morally evil if you write the bad guys to be morally evil.
If I remember correctly not only did they burn Luis’ eyes out, they also used the poker in his ears and cut his tongue out rendering him deaf, blind and mute, stuck him in that cave with others. Basically broke his mind. YEESH. That scene in the cave with all these punished people eating bugs or something was seriously disturbing.
That was the scariest part of the whole movie honestly. That cave was a nightmare. And yea they never showed Luis get his tongue cut out or ears burned but it was kinda implied in the sentencing of darkness when Venable said they'd be able to see no evil, hear no evil, nor speak no evil.
That's the problem with movies that pretend to be woke. Like oh "there are valid sides". We have people that blind and torture innocent people and innocent hikers. You fall into a pit and wake up getting carried by 2 men with skull masks. Do you honestly say "oh skullmask one what are your pronouns and name and why am I being tied to a post and carried"? No you try and escape the obvious killers that were cleaning out thier traps
Actually yeah... That part is accurate, you can't cut out certain scenes to construct your own... This isn't the news. Barbarians acted because they cause, there was often no reason for their actions What you failed to mention is these people had their eyes burned out and through into a dark pit after a trail, they are technically prisoners who were found guilty, if there were barbarians there would of been no trail Our prison systems do this exact same thing, no rehabilitation is ever done, prisoners are thrown into a dark place and sex wuth prisoners is damn near a game especially to the guards who allow it happen while hiding behind "there's not enough of us to stop prisoners" and worse... Guards actually either pimp out prisoners and or Rape. The only difference is our prison systems make money off keeping prisoners bad and in jail while modern society helps this problem in zero ways when they turn their backs on prisoners who already did the time yet can't get a job keeping this cycle alive and well
When you're dragged off by an animal trap around your ankle, and later seen being carried off by 2 masked men with your arms and legs bound to a stick, it's not unreasonable to assume the guys aren't exactly friendly. If they were trying to help, then there are plenty of materials in those woods to build a makeshift stretcher.
Also, 2 grown ass men cant carry 1 hardly bulky, college student on their shoulders as opposed tied up on a branch hanging upside down. Miss me with that, "They were just trying to help" shit🙄🤚
Yeh but that's the whole idea, to make you first assume that they must certainly be guilty but maybe not and maybe it's not them but the town people but at the end just putting the piece together and come to the realization that they do kill people for the sake of killing.
Thank you. They also dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Also if he's hurt and doesn't want to go with them. .. he doesn't have to. Why put a bag over his head? I got so mad at this scene I stopped watching and came here to look at the review.
I want justice for Luis. Jen literally lied about what Adam did, then came up with the idea that they could be helpful only after Luis got his eyes burnt out
“Yo we were TOTALLY carrying this dude tied to a stick like a pig on spitroast to get him help and when his friends asked us what we were doing we just FORGOT to speak English, yknow, the language we know how to speak and knew they were speaking to tell them we were trying to get help!” What a ridiculous justification.
@@NagalandHH But why not teach English since that’s common language of the land they live on? They have and agreement with the people in town and not being able to communicate misunderstandings pretty much crumbles the foundation of the weird truce they have going on.
@@Saspharuss I think the truce was more "we dont go to their part of the woods so they dont kill us", I have not seen the movie but i would guess their own language is a way to keep the general inhabitants uninformed about the world outside and unable to communicate with the outside/ leave the settlement. Only letting a few trusted know English and talk with the locals would make it easy to form their own narrative in for example the "judgement" trail.
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 wrong still. Not in their intention, but in the implication that he should have remotely assumed that intention. He was hogtied to a pole in a manner used for prey, after being caught by traps. He had only one rational assumption, that they were kidnapping him and threatening them.
"When I went on a two-week solo hiking trip ten years ago, I was murdered and left in the woods. I'm James A. Janisse, and I've been a ghost this whole time!"
Some people in the comments are saying the traps are meant for animals, and while that may be the case for the trap Adam stepped in, most of the traps are clearly meant to kill people. Animal traps are meant to kill them quickly and cleanly often via breaking the neck, or immobilize them for a hunter to finish the job, not poke them full of huge holes. Just look at the trap that killed Ed and his son; that trap would absolutely obliterate any animal that got caught under it, to the point where there would barely be any meat left over to eat. It was clearly meant for trespassers.
Not to mention the “log trap” would take countless time and energy to set up. What kind of animal trap uses that much time and energy to set up when you’re not even guaranteed a kill??
They would still likely ruin the fur. I'm not an expert tanner but I don't think a deer hide is very useful when it's got a bunch of gaping holes in it.
@@s.nifrum4580 That'd be even worse, what?! You make fur by skinning the animal, skimming away most everything else and then tanning the hide. You can't use 200 scraps of fur from a ripped apart animal and make that into useful clothing. You probably couldn't even tan scraps like that. Hell, if I'm in this braindead community and someone brings me a deer with 50 holes in it to make fur out of, I'd bring that guy to court and burn his eyes out for ruining what could've been good fur. Considering "a life of darkness" is the lowest form of punishment.
I'm starting to think they just really enjoy burning people's eyeballs out, that seems to be the punishment for even the slightest infraction. "Oh, you left an empty toilet paper on the roll instead of replacing it? Condemned to darkness!"
"These woods people were actually good and helpful. How dare you judge them." Has entire cave full of people they shoved hot rods into the eyes of. The message getting a little mixed in there.
Eh, I think the message was a fake out in my opinion. You'd think that line would be "oh the movie's trying to make a message" and then you go into the movie a little longer and it feels like the cult was trying to justify their actions.
That's part of the point. The Foundation (established just before the Civil War) presents itself as a utopian third alternative to the two sides of our culture-war-torn nation. On the surface, they're an ideal society with no crime, no strife, and no social inequality. However, literally beneath the surface is their dark secret: the victims of the draconian penalties they impose to maintain law and order. It just adds another layer of moral complexity to the film's cultural dynamics.
Yes! At that point I assumed that the woods we're gonna be like home to both the foundation and the cannibals for some reason. Like as if these people had nothing to do with the traps and that they were going to introduce the cannibals later or something and that "the foundation" would have been civil, but no I assumed it wrong lol
@Maniac 5000 It annoys me how she killed her friend near the end without saving him, he could have still had a life even though he was blind. She killed him without a care, so much of this movie don't make sense.
actually legally speaking they could of just detained him. In this fictional world it could of been they were just trying to escort him out of the area but he wouldn't calm the fuck down and listen to them and there was a language barrier so yeah.
@@LillyOkCool actually a falling log can't really be considered a trap unless you have proof. Its not that unrealistic for a log to roll down a steep hill and hurt someone. Also it could of very well been a person from the town. (An yeah ik the society people are bad but im going off of just before we learn that)
The foundation was stalking them on their whole trip, when people show up and your carrying their friend like a fresh kill and speak another language you know English and talk to them. The response of the collage students is entirely justified
Omg Ik right I think they were trying to lie to them to make them look more inasint and them more guilty but then why would they do that I wean they were in total contoral of all of them there was no need to lie to them
(10:40) "Did you just kill a man for no reason?" and "Look at him, he's an animal!!" and the director saying they killed someone they 'thought' was a monster is all weak in terms of culture/prejudice depiction. They'd just trapped Adam and were carrying through the woods trussed up on a log!! I think self-defense is pretty clear cut, the friend returning or not.
And I'm pretty sure big ass logs don't just randomly roll down hills, and even if it was a tree that had just snapped, that would have been loud AF in the forest, also all the very lethal traps just strewn about the forest (which the log was likely part of anyway) imply the Foundation was aiming to kill/maim them from the start.
@@silverfur11 this movie its just huge garbange previous titles are kinda dumb in good way but this shit is realy dumb u killed dude without a reason foundadion killed lgbt dude without a reason lol
While I appreciate the "don't judge a book by its cover" sentiment, feels like this was done pretty sloppily. Tucker and Dale vs Evil did a better job of illustrating the point imo
@@mindyg7064 yeah, that was a waaaay better take on the "don't judge a book by its cover" thing, that totally flipped the story on it's head by turning the "hero" of the situation into a genuinely evil individual.
Seriously though, both groups were in the wrong in this one, I can’t pick who to root for; the sheltered, prejudiced, clueless protagonists, or the murderous woodland community. Both groups annoy me to hell and Adam just seemed like a ripoff Chad from Tucker and Dale.
Don't judge a book by its cover doesn't work when the book not to be judged as a bunch of savage killer hillbillies *is* a bunch of savage killer hillbillies.
"No we werent gonna eat him we just had his arms tied up like a pig and blindfolded him! How dare you assume we were gonna eat him! And btw we forgot how to use english for just that moment but we remembered just now to speak in court"
I think Darius' "confederate monument" trip was actually him looking for The Foundation. At no point do they say why he would want to actually see it, and once they get lost, he's so determined to find it that he tells the others to go back onto the path without him. Plus, their society lines up perfectly with what he wants in life, which is too big a coincidence for me.
@@jaydenmcallister1997 If You watched carefully towards the end when Jen and Her Father escape from the foundation, Darius had gotten his eyes burnt out like Louisé did.
I really like the ending with the main girl killing all of those foundation members in the rv. And I’m so glad Scott and her family got to survive. Would’ve felt like such a waste
Makes no sense that the scene where they kill the guy in the mask was wrong because they ‘assumed’ they were bad guys. They literally had him in a trap and strung him to a log
The movie really tried to convince us that the protagonists started everything, because of their prejudice blahblah, but did they ever explain why all of them lost their phones overnight?? Obviously they would think (and they were probably right) that someone stole them while they were sleeping. And of course, if they were just helping an injured Adam, there was no need to cover his head with a bag. Then punishing Louis, who literally didn't do anything and in such an inhuman way, too?? It just didn't work. And Darius choosing to stay, because "these people are so much better than the life we have in civilization" (to convince the viewers that we're just looking at it wrong) while his friend has been literally suffering deaf, blinded and mute in some cave for months, because that's what these "better people do". If the movie was really going for the message about prejudice and anti-capitalism, they failed, because the protagonista were justified in everything they did
I love how you go straight to defending their prejudice because of some crazy cannibals in the mountains that had nothing to do with the prejudice they dished out in the town. Lmfao
@@RandomNamejagddjxuossn The prejudice was also meant for the mountain people. The entire film is trying to have a "both sides are wrong" situation. When they have every reason to have negative opinions and views of people who got their friends killed.
“Did you just kill this man for no reason?” Yeah if you disregard crushing our friend with a tree and lugging me away after trapping me, sure, for no reason
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 why did you comment the same thing twice? Also, many people watch Dead Meat because they don't actually have the stomach or or to watch the movie so if your criticizing for semantics you are on the wrong RUclips channel for that
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 dude just relax. It's a yotube video. It's just for entertainment. Its a horror movie so there is gonna be a "bad guy". It's all fictional so nobody is crossing swords over it. I'd watch the actual movie if I had the stomach for it but James' video proved I didn't. Either way, i enjoyed it and it seemed you did too (to some degree) so no blood spilt.
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 from everything I’ve seen, yeah it COULD’VE been explained away but nobody in their right mind uses a tree to trap and kill an animal and nobody is going to lug a human away like a piece of meat if they plan to treat that person medically/not hurt them. If I was in the situation of these teens I would annihilate these clearly malicious people the second I had the chance.
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 You could also consider the punji pit that Milla died in, punji pits being a trap famous for killing humans, not animals. The shitloads of discarded sunglasses from other people killed/captured by the tribe. The fact that nearly every trap pictured would ruin much of the animal that’s killed. The people that had their eyes gouged out... yeah it’s not as black and white as most horror movies but there sure is way too much evidence of the tribe people being the “bad guys” to just be ignored. Not saying what the guy did was right but I’m not blaming him either
god, mila's last "fuck you" (11:45) really hurt when i put myself in adam's place. i couldn't imagine living with that as the last memory of my friend, let alone my significant other. that said, that's exactly its purpose. 10/10 horror at its finest
As someone who did a lot of hiking with my dad in Ohio, I recognized a bunch of the locations this movie was filmed in. It was a pleasant surprise to see a horror film made in places I recognize.
"morally grey on both sides" they deadass tried to kidnap their hog tied friend and pretended not to speak english or communicate, they killed another injured girl, have blind sex slaves....
Tbh I felt like them killing Millie was supposed to be a mercy kill, one of the spikes looked like it pierced her heart, she had a pretty slim chance of survival
I posted this in another comment that didn't get any attention, but I think that the "both" sides were supposed to be the town inhabitants and the woke college students, NOT the foundation. This is muddled by how much focus there is on the Foundation as villains, but thematically it fits - the towners came to their help despite the way they treated each other.
for real. I'd go "Let's pick him up like a normal person", and if I also spoke English.... id communicate instead of intentionally not speaking english to the group of worried people???
If you watched the movie, they were going to put him back on the road for someone to find. So then he assumed "big scary deer man go eat me" and bludgeoned him. But alas... DID HE HAVE TO CARRY HIM IN A PIG-ON-A-STICK FASION!!??
The tragic part about this movie was Luis getting put down and the way he looks at Jen even if he doesn't see her it's so sad that he felt there presence to just be put down
I QUITE like that ending credit sequence where they pull a "ha ha! our organization found you, you can't escape!!!" only to then get their entire organization wrecked by a very angry victim who goes Doom Guy on them.
Probably not a great idea to attempt Both Sides: The Movie when things breakdown to the murderous forest cult, the racist hick townies, and vaguely judgey college kids who don't obey trail signs.
Yeah, as badly as the movie tries to frame the college kids... there was barely a single time in the movie where those oh so bad college kids weren't basically completely justified in their paranoia. It's how you badly make a both sides movie. Or even worse, if they truly tried to make a "don't judge a book by its cover" movie and completely failed cuz the cover told everything about the book. The thing the movie failed at was that the cult being murderous lunatics clearly was supposed to be some subversion of the "don't judge a book by its cover/both sides" trope (which already is... oof messaging), but also they didn't lean on it at all and never made it clear.
Right?! So it doesn't matter what someone did in this movie universe, even if they didn't kill anyone. They were gonna have a miserable fate unless they could make a deal and prove their usefulness. This almost feels like Hellraiser.
A dude deadass goes into the woods to see if this daughter is alive, and doesn’t kill anyone from the foundation along the way. The worst thing he did was shoot a gun in the air in front of the people. And they still thought it was justified to burn out his eyes because he was “TreSSpAssInG” the foundation is beyond fucked up
No we weren’t gonna kill him we were just gonna eat dinner with him it’s spaghetti night wanna come? We just had him blindfolded and held him like a pig we do that with everyone .
@@cyb11114 A lot of people when put in a stressful situation resort to native languages and accents, could be that those two were kind of thrown off kilter when they got rushed by a group with weapons and just didn't think of it.
@@TheOldOwl8 in any other situation I would agree but this information coupled with the blindfolding and having him tied up across a stretch of wood I would argue they were gonna kill him
It felt like a script that originally had nothing to do with wrong turn but they decided slap the name on it for brand recognition. Reminds me of the hellraiser sequels.
I really appreciate that they tried to bring us some nuances and character development, especially by making The Foundation being attacked by our protagonists first. Still, I notice a pretty big plot-hole in this theory - If The Foundation wasn't going to harm them prior to Adam killing Samuel, why did they take their phones at night? Also, if their goal is for these people to disappear, why did they stashed their belongings in a random shed in the woods, when we later find out that they have a whole town for themselves? The film has a lot of good ideas, but also a lot of inconsistencies, so it could cash in on as many horror tropes as possible.
Homie was trapped in a bear trap and dragged through a tunnel, put hand and feet tied than carried hooded and a stick. Then they try to make us feel like he didn't have a reason to kill the one of the people who trapped and kidnapped him.... really!? That's the major issue I had with the story.
@@RikerBiker the foundation also blinds people for "trespassing", so my guess is that they were just lying about bringing Adam to the road and that he would have just been blinded and thrown into the cave if the group hadn't saved him.
The “liberal” group literally had every reason to kill the foundation and now by the sounds of it this movie tried to show that actually they were in the wrong, and were being killed for judging a different “culture” lmao I hate this fucking movie tbh
This moment haunts me the most. 18:26 Poor Luis. Imagine living like this for weeks, scared and alone and slowly losing your sanity. At least he received a merciful death.
That scene was genuinely unsettling. Even moreso considering all the things that were implied - that the people in the dark had gone completely feral, and that the men of the tribe took advantage of the females and raped them.
Now this is a movie worth making a sequel of. This Wrong Turn movie did what many of the other ones did not, provide more background, dialogue, and diversity to the characters as well as the movie itself and while having emotion for those who died and those living in the rural town and in The Foundation
@@megaxrobertson759 But was it worse than the sequels before it though? 🤨 I understand your opinion though, not every movie can please anyone, and people including you and me along w/others have different tastes in movies, shows, etc.
@@solescorpionofficial bro wrong turn is about horror gore disgusting deaths with a bit of comedy and laughing psycho cannibals. And hot chicks and nude scenes with violence. Literally its a comedyfest. Thats what the series is about. And the funny thing is everyone dies in the end of the movie . No one survives except some cannibal
@@megaxrobertson759 True, the franchise is known for its gore, violence and some sort of comedy added to it, even if most people haven't seen past the first 3 movies of the franchise
“We tied him up like a pig and blindfolded him so we could take him to hospital” “So why were you pretending to speak a different language?” “Ermmm....”
@@lightvsdarkness960 The guy speaks english and the rest of the foundation speaks english... plus its set in the US, so the assumption would be that they at least understand english due to exposure to it.
Yeah I'm with deadmeat... there's absolutely no way samuel and his brother were only taking Adam down the mountain... Trespassing is grounds for darkness, they had eyes in the woods watching the group the entire time, they knew what they were doing
“Did you kill that man for no reason?” Ah yes, you know the classic hogtie - used by rescue professionals all around the world to *checks notes* scorch people’s eyes out and throw them into a pitch black prison? Yeah, no reason at all.
To be fair, had Adam not killed Samuel and his friends no lied about it, they wouldn't have been tortured like that. Still a pretty fucked up punishment for lying in court though.
I just love how the group collectively forgot The Foundation shot first (in the form of a wood log straight to Garys face) so it really was an act of self defence.
@@Testingthisname I'm pretty sure setting traps that can injure or kill humans is illegal even if you're using them for the express purpose of hunting. That log trap might not be specifically outlawed in the way several types are under many state laws, but The Foundation is assuredly not allowed to do that stuff. The pit with chain at very least is illegal under a lot of laws about hunting traps.
@@Testingthisname your home and a random plot of land that no one knows belongs to you are two VERY different things, they were warned that the nature was dangerous, not that there were homicidal maniacs that torture kill everyone that dares to take a step onto their illegally claimed and completely unmarked territory. also, it's pretty clear that the foundation triggered the log trap, so that's clear murder and attempted murder.
I actually liked seeing Scott’s kinda transformation and willingness to kill just to save his daughter. It’s an interesting thing to see. Up until he saw the trap kill that father and son, he’d only heard that the foundation was bad, but then he got to see just how bad they are
“Did you kill that man for no reason?” No I killed him cos I fell into a human trap and then I was tied up to a big stick and these 2 men were taking me somewhere
you forgot the bag over his head, because when you take someone down a mountain for them to be "found and rescued" you absolutely have to put bags over their heads, everyone knows that.
@@olivinator Don't forget the giant log rolling down hill. These types of movies deliberately make no differentiation between narrow mindedness and legit risk/threat assessment.
@@Njai15 considering that a double degree is around 7/8 years and that she may of taken a gap year after completing highschool they would've been in their late 20s.
We just not gonna talk about the fact that Luis had his man die and he was blinded in pretty much the same day, and had to live off scraps while being blind. Horrible fate
10:45 “ thought they were monsters” Dude who do you think set up the trap that took him away . They were even carrying him like a freshly hunted kill. It’s not like they had him on a ambulatory stretcher
Just finished watching the movie and I really wish they would have expanded on the foundation's lifestyle a bit more instead of cheaping out with the "6 weeks later". The character's changed so much off screen that it really lost something by the end of the movie.
@@carmellasofo8337 no way he'd let her walk away without trying to kill her and no way she'd let him walk away without killing him. I just don't see it unless they do some lame shit where she thinks he's dead but he isn't
“Hmm ok so let me get this straight. You had this man fall into a trap hole, tied his arms and legs to a stick so it be impossible for him to run or escape and carried him like a pig while blindfolded, didn’t speak English when you are perfectly able to when the friends of the guy you’re carrying are asking you to let him go. And you did all this to help them” “Yeah that’s correct” “Aight I don’t see how you’re in the wrong her at all” Yeah James is definitely correct about the not really helping thing
You say this, but after each character dies they are never mentioned again. The respond in the moment to the first death, but after that it doesn’t matter when people die
This movie may've overstayed its welcome like out-of-town relatives at Thanksgiving, but God those last 2 kills were amazing. The ferocity, the violence; amazing.
If this movie wasn’t called “wrong turn” you wouldn’t have even known it was a wrong turn movie. There was no deformed cannibal hillbillies. It was a cult living in the woods and the people for the most part died by accident by the traps placed in the woods for animals. It was kinda wack.
Thought the same but tbh I think they threw in “cannibal hillbillies” with the people putto darkness. Cuz they’re pretty “deformed” and wild, and at the end the 2 ended up eating the body of the guy Jen killed
It doesn't look like the traps were made for wild animals tho. Remember, they already had livestock in their community, and if they wanted traps to defend themselves, they would have put them closer to the community, rather than scattering them around the forest. Also, most of the traps seem to be made to count for a human's size, not an wild animal's. The holes were almost perfect size for a human, the spikes were aimed at chest height, the falling round spiked log had a hole narrow enough you would be forced to stand, which would result your death by spikes to the head. The rolling log is not fit for an animal either. Their extremist approach when it comes to punishment also makes me think that they were actually putting traps for people
The ending wasnt even Jen crashing the car, it was just the fact that it makes literally zero sense for these secluded mountain folk to know how to drive
Well even do It did not feel like a Wrong Turn movie for me its quite good and i well rank It up better compare to Wrong Turn 4 -6 but no sow mutch over 1-3.
I'm confused. Jakes said they get killed based on their assumptions but when they see people at their tent at night, their phones are stolen and one of their friend got kidnapped at that point it's self defense.
This movie made me feel quite sad towards the deaths that happened, with Mila getting killed and the "mercy" kill of Luis it portrayed them all as real people and that's why in my opinion this is best wrong turn movie, like what was said they aren't just blank slates they have actual depth
That's why #2 was always my favorite in this series. I was impressed how sympathetic the characters were (seriously remarkable given the reality-TV setting the movie took place in) and how bad I felt when they were taken out. The other sequels felt almost sadistic about it - like we were supposed to cheer when the protagonists suffered and the bad-guys won.
Eva... it's not supposed to have anything to do with that franchise. Same name... different premise. People really need to get over this film not involving deranged, deformed, hillbilly cannibals.
"did you kill this man for no reason?" That's rich. The two dudes were going to definitely kill him wherever they were going to take them so I'd claim self defense too or a moment of passion, you pick.
Again, that’s an assumption. They claim later that they were going to take him to safety. Assuming they would “definitely kill him” is part of the problem still.
Fun fact about archery. The technical skills of it are actually relatively easy to learn to the point of someone being able to grasp the basics within a day of practicing. The real troubles come from the shoulder and back strength needed for the war bows that you would have to fire for a long time.
You can kinda learn the basics in a day. But it will take weeks to months to be able to do the firm correctly. And those weren't war bows. Those were recurves. War bows could range anywhere from recurve to longbow, with the Styles varying. But it would definitely take more than a day to perfect the form. You might be able to replicate the basics of the form but would probably forget most of the little details until you'd practiced enough. When I learned a style similar to the Olympic style it took me awhile to get the correct release down. And you'd only use your back muscles if you were transferring correctly. You can learn to pull the bow using your back muscles not your arm muscles but I've always struggled with that. So I tend to pull with my arms and then when I reach my draw point I then transfer to my back and will be holding the weight of the bow with my back and not my arms.
Or at least from the shots I could see they looked like recurves. But since I've only seen the kill count and not the movie I can't see the whole bow. But I might be wrong. The main difference between a recurve and longbow is that a recurve curves in at the ends and a longbow does not. You'll have to watch for yourself to see if it does or not.
If you ever wanna go on that hike, I'm sure we'd be fine with a bit of a break. Just because you have a huge following, doesn't mean you can't do things that you want to do that might (definitely) will take some time. Take that hike. If you want to do it, do it. If it's something you really wanna do, you do it.
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To me, Luis is the most tragic character. Imagine dealing with the trauma of seeing your partner get mutilated. Then on top of all that, get hunted down and witness the death of nearly all of your friends ONLY for you to ultimately, have your eyes burned out and be forced to live a tortured and painful life for weeks until you're put down out of pity. Dang.
Yea, it was very disturbing
And it sucks that Jen didn't even ask if he wanted to come with, like even if I can't see I'd like to come with Jen
@@kingjammm3500 he turned into a mindless cannibal though
How long was he down there
@@nikkoshay5403 6 weeks bc the dad came to the town after 6 weeks from his daughter and frienda deaths
The girl being a Barista with two masters degrees is probably the most realistic thing about these young people.
Make it more believable, the two masters degrees she has are printed on the back of soup labels.
@Ace Ahmadzai Yeah, most are 24 going into a masters or doctorate degree program, working two minimum wage jobs to be able to pay those degrees. Some careers take 9 and 10 years and are filled with struggles.
@Ace Ahmadzai you got a problem with Baristas?
Stem degrees are the only good options
@Ace Ahmadzai Or they just like doing their jobs lmao, did you apply for a barista position and get denied? Wouldn’t be surprised, Btw degrees aren’t shit anymore always better to get a trade but seeing how you clearly have no education you’ll just be stuck on public housing and food stamps for the rest of your life.
I feel like they wanted to do a serious version of Tucker & Dale with "don't judge a book by its cover" but that doesn't really work when the people you assume are villains are actually doing villainous shit.
It feels like they are going for what you said in the first half of film, so we have that court scene to make you feel that Foundation can be reasonable. Later they remember this is a slasher film in need of body count, and it's much morally easier to kill those Foundation members if they are all pure evil. Thus, there are traps clearly set for killing people and "blind zomibes" in tunnel, making the court scene like a joke.
If they blinded them and returned them to town its like okay that's more morally grey than evil but they blind them, r word them (youtubes fault,) and force them to spend the rest of their lives in caves.
The film tries to claim they live in somewhat harmony with the town but they've set up lethal booby traps everywhere. You could trap the forest with non lethal traps if you don't want them to be evil. And if you want cool trap related kills why not have those non lethal traps kill people in unexpected ways.
Also If they wanted to appear innocent why didn't they attempt to use a crude version of sign language to communicate when communications broke down due to lingual differences.
You can't have a twist be the bad guys aren't morally evil if you write the bad guys to be morally evil.
EXACTLY.
I just realized Dead Meat gave me a heart. Thanks!
Yeah like Tucker & Dale meets Misommar
If I remember correctly not only did they burn Luis’ eyes out, they also used the poker in his ears and cut his tongue out rendering him deaf, blind and mute, stuck him in that cave with others. Basically broke his mind. YEESH. That scene in the cave with all these punished people eating bugs or something was seriously disturbing.
That was the scariest part of the whole movie honestly. That cave was a nightmare. And yea they never showed Luis get his tongue cut out or ears burned but it was kinda implied in the sentencing of darkness when Venable said they'd be able to see no evil, hear no evil, nor speak no evil.
I damn near cried when I saw him sitting there
He did say see/hear/say no evil
That scene was seriously messed up
@@cutter9562 i think they were also feasting on that legless guys leg down in the pit
Foundation: "We are not barbaric!"
Also Foundation: Burning peoples eyes out with a metal rod then locking them up in a prison
That's the problem with movies that pretend to be woke.
Like oh "there are valid sides".
We have people that blind and torture innocent people and innocent hikers.
You fall into a pit and wake up getting carried by 2 men with skull masks.
Do you honestly say "oh skullmask one what are your pronouns and name and why am I being tied to a post and carried"?
No you try and escape the obvious killers that were cleaning out thier traps
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp but did anyone ask that in this movie? no. a lot horror has always been somewhat “woke” and progressive for the time.
Actually yeah... That part is accurate, you can't cut out certain scenes to construct your own... This isn't the news.
Barbarians acted because they cause, there was often no reason for their actions
What you failed to mention is these people had their eyes burned out and through into a dark pit after a trail, they are technically prisoners who were found guilty, if there were barbarians there would of been no trail
Our prison systems do this exact same thing, no rehabilitation is ever done, prisoners are thrown into a dark place and sex wuth prisoners is damn near a game especially to the guards who allow it happen while hiding behind "there's not enough of us to stop prisoners" and worse... Guards actually either pimp out prisoners and or Rape. The only difference is our prison systems make money off keeping prisoners bad and in jail while modern society helps this problem in zero ways when they turn their backs on prisoners who already did the time yet can't get a job keeping this cycle alive and well
Ahh. Another man of culture who likes Clannad!
@@GCT1990 we have no proof this place exists so no one clearly leaves so your 3 part essay is null and void
“Shaved James doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you”
Shaved James: 2:42
Why would shaved james hurt us
@@vladimirpuddin3319 Shaved James is his alter ego, his dark side lmao *insert a game or movie reference here cause I can’t think of one right now*
He literally looks exactly the same as 10 years ago I was so confused
Lmao
Bruh
When you're dragged off by an animal trap around your ankle, and later seen being carried off by 2 masked men with your arms and legs bound to a stick, it's not unreasonable to assume the guys aren't exactly friendly. If they were trying to help, then there are plenty of materials in those woods to build a makeshift stretcher.
Also, 2 grown ass men cant carry 1 hardly bulky, college student on their shoulders as opposed tied up on a branch hanging upside down. Miss me with that, "They were just trying to help" shit🙄🤚
Yeh but that's the whole idea, to make you first assume that they must certainly be guilty but maybe not and maybe it's not them but the town people but at the end just putting the piece together and come to the realization that they do kill people for the sake of killing.
Thank you. They also dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Also if he's hurt and doesn't want to go with them. .. he doesn't have to. Why put a bag over his head? I got so mad at this scene I stopped watching and came here to look at the review.
@@LittleChell94 yea but it makes their point about how assuming first is bad point useless when they end up being true
Or speak English! They know English!
I want justice for Luis. Jen literally lied about what Adam did, then came up with the idea that they could be helpful only after Luis got his eyes burnt out
Luis ran before she could think of the idea
@@isaiahwatkins1502 tbh he should have been more calm and level headed, because if he stayed still he might have been able to escape with Jen
“Yo we were TOTALLY carrying this dude tied to a stick like a pig on spitroast to get him help and when his friends asked us what we were doing we just FORGOT to speak English, yknow, the language we know how to speak and knew they were speaking to tell them we were trying to get help!” What a ridiculous justification.
I think they did say only a few speak English.
The ones that were carrying him didn't speak english, but other than that I got pretty pissed with the whole judgement thing
I call bs they were gonna cook his eyes
@@NagalandHH But why not teach English since that’s common language of the land they live on? They have and agreement with the people in town and not being able to communicate misunderstandings pretty much crumbles the foundation of the weird truce they have going on.
@@Saspharuss I think the truce was more "we dont go to their part of the woods so they dont kill us", I have not seen the movie but i would guess their own language is a way to keep the general inhabitants uninformed about the world outside and unable to communicate with the outside/ leave the settlement. Only letting a few trusted know English and talk with the locals would make it easy to form their own narrative in for example the "judgement" trail.
"Did you just kill this man for no reason?"
Did she forget that they were LITTERALLY KIDNAPPING HIM less than 2 minutes ago??
Nice pfp
@@KenKaneki-kt8ki correct me if I'm wrong, but your name is Ken Kaneki yet don't have a Kaneki pfp. All I see is white hair so I could be wrong.
@@TheRealWoopSlap actually I do have a kaneki pfp I just think you didn't zoom in...
It also irritated me how they never mentioned that huge log being thrown at them and killing their friend FIRST
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 wrong still. Not in their intention, but in the implication that he should have remotely assumed that intention. He was hogtied to a pole in a manner used for prey, after being caught by traps. He had only one rational assumption, that they were kidnapping him and threatening them.
"When I went on a two-week solo hiking trip ten years ago, I was murdered and left in the woods. I'm James A. Janisse, and I've been a ghost this whole time!"
Kill Count series finale reveal
@@DeadMeat welcome to my life and its a movie about how i died now lets get to the kill count
@@DeadMeat confirmed
the fact that i ran into this comment as soon as the part played
@@DeadMeat lol yes can not wait for 12 hour shift kill count!
Some people in the comments are saying the traps are meant for animals, and while that may be the case for the trap Adam stepped in, most of the traps are clearly meant to kill people. Animal traps are meant to kill them quickly and cleanly often via breaking the neck, or immobilize them for a hunter to finish the job, not poke them full of huge holes. Just look at the trap that killed Ed and his son; that trap would absolutely obliterate any animal that got caught under it, to the point where there would barely be any meat left over to eat. It was clearly meant for trespassers.
Not to mention the “log trap” would take countless time and energy to set up. What kind of animal trap uses that much time and energy to set up when you’re not even guaranteed a kill??
Maybe the traps that would ruin the meat were intended for animals that would be killed for their fur
They would still likely ruin the fur. I'm not an expert tanner but I don't think a deer hide is very useful when it's got a bunch of gaping holes in it.
@@s.nifrum4580 That'd be even worse, what?! You make fur by skinning the animal, skimming away most everything else and then tanning the hide.
You can't use 200 scraps of fur from a ripped apart animal and make that into useful clothing. You probably couldn't even tan scraps like that. Hell, if I'm in this braindead community and someone brings me a deer with 50 holes in it to make fur out of, I'd bring that guy to court and burn his eyes out for ruining what could've been good fur.
Considering "a life of darkness" is the lowest form of punishment.
_Which one is ed._
Wrong Turn 9 - The emotional baggage lol
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Do not eat this burger.
I know you want to eat it.
@@neptune8168 I take the burger 🍔
Why do you rely on Dead Meats channel for relevance?
Do you just reply on every youtuber or somethin? I see you everywhere bro
@@nolimitssuck3846
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I'm starting to think they just really enjoy burning people's eyeballs out, that seems to be the punishment for even the slightest infraction. "Oh, you left an empty toilet paper on the roll instead of replacing it? Condemned to darkness!"
Hey do you remember what happened to the bf of jen
@@latajai5406 He stayed with the foundation
@@latajai5406 they stayed with the foundation
"Doom for you, and you, and you, and yo-"
"You! Jinx! You owe me a soda!"
"Doom for him too"
"NOOOOO!"
@@SpaceMonkeyBoi Ahh! What kind of soda do you want.:(
"These woods people were actually good and helpful. How dare you judge them."
Has entire cave full of people they shoved hot rods into the eyes of. The message getting a little mixed in there.
And some of the women they take out and rape and put back in
Eh, I think the message was a fake out in my opinion. You'd think that line would be "oh the movie's trying to make a message" and then you go into the movie a little longer and it feels like the cult was trying to justify their actions.
There's a reason the heroine escaped and killed a bunch of them without a second thought. They were definitely the villains.
probably because horror movies are really shitty medium for complex films when you need a villian to pump the body count
That's part of the point. The Foundation (established just before the Civil War) presents itself as a utopian third alternative to the two sides of our culture-war-torn nation. On the surface, they're an ideal society with no crime, no strife, and no social inequality. However, literally beneath the surface is their dark secret: the victims of the draconian penalties they impose to maintain law and order. It just adds another layer of moral complexity to the film's cultural dynamics.
I honestly like the ending of her just murdering everyone like a badass
Simp
Woke assgarbage. In Wrong turn no one survives. No one.
@@megaxrobertson759 The first two movies would like a word with you.
@@megaxrobertson759 “woke assgarbage”
Lmao
Especially with the rest of her family dead. Had some real "Mist" vibes to it.
i love how in every kill count its the same song playing the whole time but it never gets old
Yeah, but now that you mention it.
Never change it
Yeah that shit my jam
@@MAGIKHUB same
You should watch the scream kill counts you can see the difference between this James and the 2010s james no music, no hint of enjoyment just him
Biggest pro of this video is that James A. Janisse says Appalachia correctly
Yep! Very rare for someone not there to say it right. My mom’s biggest pet peeve.
“Did you just kill this man for no reason”
Everyone: yes
Me: “didn’t they just technically kidnap them?”
Yes! At that point I assumed that the woods we're gonna be like home to both the foundation and the cannibals for some reason. Like as if these people had nothing to do with the traps and that they were going to introduce the cannibals later or something and that "the foundation" would have been civil, but no I assumed it wrong lol
@Maniac 5000 It annoys me how she killed her friend near the end without saving him, he could have still had a life even though he was blind. She killed him without a care, so much of this movie don't make sense.
actually legally speaking they could of just detained him. In this fictional world it could of been they were just trying to escort him out of the area but he wouldn't calm the fuck down and listen to them and there was a language barrier so yeah.
And didnt 2 of their friends die bc of these peoples traps 😭😂 NOBODY brought that up ???
@@LillyOkCool actually a falling log can't really be considered a trap unless you have proof. Its not that unrealistic for a log to roll down a steep hill and hurt someone. Also it could of very well been a person from the town. (An yeah ik the society people are bad but im going off of just before we learn that)
The foundation was stalking them on their whole trip, when people show up and your carrying their friend like a fresh kill and speak another language you know English and talk to them. The response of the collage students is entirely justified
Agreed, I hate the foundation soo much after seeing this movie.
The way they’re carrying Adam down the hill, claiming they were “helping” him is absolutely laughable
Ikr bro, he was my favorite character
We strapped him to a log that looked like it was going over a fire because we were helping him 👀 to cook evenly.
Omg Ik right I think they were trying to lie to them to make them look more inasint and them more guilty but then why would they do that I wean they were in total contoral of all of them there was no need to lie to them
I mean you really don't know
I know like why in the court didn't she say they hurled that log at them and that's how they hurt them. Stupid movie tho!
"None of the cultures are entirely good or bad."
*Foundation burns people's eyes out for them getting lost in the woods*
To be fair, it's the town's job to tell people. Yet they didn't. Trespassing is still trespassing in the end.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Nah.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Don't even try
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator No
Wait when'd they burn peoples eyes out for getting lost in the woods?
(10:40) "Did you just kill a man for no reason?" and "Look at him, he's an animal!!" and the director saying they killed someone they 'thought' was a monster is all weak in terms of culture/prejudice depiction. They'd just trapped Adam and were carrying through the woods trussed up on a log!! I think self-defense is pretty clear cut, the friend returning or not.
And I'm pretty sure big ass logs don't just randomly roll down hills, and even if it was a tree that had just snapped, that would have been loud AF in the forest, also all the very lethal traps just strewn about the forest (which the log was likely part of anyway) imply the Foundation was aiming to kill/maim them from the start.
@@silverfur11 this movie its just huge garbange
previous titles are kinda dumb in good way but this shit is realy dumb
u killed dude without a reason
foundadion killed lgbt dude without a reason lol
While I appreciate the "don't judge a book by its cover" sentiment, feels like this was done pretty sloppily. Tucker and Dale vs Evil did a better job of illustrating the point imo
Please don't bring Tucker and Dale anywhere near this propaganda bullshyte.
@@mindyg7064 yeah, that was a waaaay better take on the "don't judge a book by its cover" thing, that totally flipped the story on it's head by turning the "hero" of the situation into a genuinely evil individual.
Seriously though, both groups were in the wrong in this one, I can’t pick who to root for; the sheltered, prejudiced, clueless protagonists, or the murderous woodland community. Both groups annoy me to hell and Adam just seemed like a ripoff Chad from Tucker and Dale.
Don't judge a book by its cover doesn't work when the book not to be judged as a bunch of savage killer hillbillies *is* a bunch of savage killer hillbillies.
"No we werent gonna eat him we just had his arms tied up like a pig and blindfolded him! How dare you assume we were gonna eat him! And btw we forgot how to use english for just that moment but we remembered just now to speak in court"
Shit just slipped us 😂
Lmao
Hahaha
There was a woman who spoke both the foundation language and English. She translated the language. That guy didn't know English fluently.
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I think Darius' "confederate monument" trip was actually him looking for The Foundation. At no point do they say why he would want to actually see it, and once they get lost, he's so determined to find it that he tells the others to go back onto the path without him. Plus, their society lines up perfectly with what he wants in life, which is too big a coincidence for me.
A theory that would actually make this movie good if they made it more clear
Wat happen to darius
@@jaydenmcallister1997 If You watched carefully towards the end when Jen and Her Father escape from the foundation, Darius had gotten his eyes burnt out like Louisé did.
@@Cheroobian I saw the whole thing I didn’t c it but I mite have to rewatch
@@JohnSmith-XYZ lmfao 🤣 🤪
I really like the ending with the main girl killing all of those foundation members in the rv. And I’m so glad Scott and her family got to survive. Would’ve felt like such a waste
The people in the tunnels actually have their eyes ears and throat burned so they can’t talk, hear, or see. Kinda terrifying when you think about it
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Legit the scariest part of the movie lol
That part was terrifying and unexpected. Scariest part in any of the wrong turn movies.
WASN'T SCARY AT ALL MOVIE WAS TRASH NOTHING LIKE WRONG TURN
@@andrewcarson6925 buddy this is wrong turn
Makes no sense that the scene where they kill the guy in the mask was wrong because they ‘assumed’ they were bad guys. They literally had him in a trap and strung him to a log
Fully Agree with You
also what about the missing phones?? it doesn't make any sense
They did say they were dropping him off at the trail.
It's a decent concept but to act like those people were just misunderstood is just dumb. They were absolutely the bad guys regardless of culture
I agree with James they probably were gonna cook his eyes
“Did you just kill this man for no reason?”
Uh, no, him and his buddy tied him up and were carrying him to who knows where.
Exactly and they killed the first guy with that tree.
They were taking him back to the trail... it was stated in the movie.
@@TheWeeabooKid they didn’t know that at the time
@@TheWeeabooKid yeah, "taking him back to the trail" while having him tied up like a pig they just caught and killed after a hunt
@@TheWeeabooKid people and characters lie, it was also stated in the movie that no one caught on foundation territory is ever seen again.
The movie really tried to convince us that the protagonists started everything, because of their prejudice blahblah, but did they ever explain why all of them lost their phones overnight?? Obviously they would think (and they were probably right) that someone stole them while they were sleeping. And of course, if they were just helping an injured Adam, there was no need to cover his head with a bag. Then punishing Louis, who literally didn't do anything and in such an inhuman way, too?? It just didn't work. And Darius choosing to stay, because "these people are so much better than the life we have in civilization" (to convince the viewers that we're just looking at it wrong) while his friend has been literally suffering deaf, blinded and mute in some cave for months, because that's what these "better people do". If the movie was really going for the message about prejudice and anti-capitalism, they failed, because the protagonista were justified in everything they did
I love how you go straight to defending their prejudice because of some crazy cannibals in the mountains that had nothing to do with the prejudice they dished out in the town. Lmfao
@@RandomNamejagddjxuossn The prejudice was also meant for the mountain people. The entire film is trying to have a "both sides are wrong" situation. When they have every reason to have negative opinions and views of people who got their friends killed.
@@RandomNamejagddjxuossnThey literally have a confederate flag in their bar...yeah don't like em
@@supotter377 cry about a flag then idc
@@RandomNamejagddjxuossn It isn’t the flag that is gross, it’s an ideology based on irrational hatred of others that it represents.
“Okay, semi-good ending.”
“Oh shit, this was actually a bad ending.”
“Oh, never mind! It was a good ending! :)”
I felt like that with A Cure for Wellness, the fucking thing has like four fake endings, 1 and 3 being evil won, 2 and 4 being, nah, good guys win
@@otani_gabri ruclips.net/video/Yc33vAxakPM/видео.html
Can u shut the f..... up i dont want to know yet
@@flipaclipanimacje1425 Who?
@@flipaclipanimacje1425 no
“Did you just kill this man for no reason?” Yeah if you disregard crushing our friend with a tree and lugging me away after trapping me, sure, for no reason
completely forgot about the tree! They were 100% aiming to kill them from the start
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 why did you comment the same thing twice? Also, many people watch Dead Meat because they don't actually have the stomach or or to watch the movie so if your criticizing for semantics you are on the wrong RUclips channel for that
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 dude just relax. It's a yotube video. It's just for entertainment. Its a horror movie so there is gonna be a "bad guy". It's all fictional so nobody is crossing swords over it. I'd watch the actual movie if I had the stomach for it but James' video proved I didn't. Either way, i enjoyed it and it seemed you did too (to some degree) so no blood spilt.
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 from everything I’ve seen, yeah it COULD’VE been explained away but nobody in their right mind uses a tree to trap and kill an animal and nobody is going to lug a human away like a piece of meat if they plan to treat that person medically/not hurt them. If I was in the situation of these teens I would annihilate these clearly malicious people the second I had the chance.
@@Tuco_Salamanca3 You could also consider the punji pit that Milla died in, punji pits being a trap famous for killing humans, not animals. The shitloads of discarded sunglasses from other people killed/captured by the tribe. The fact that nearly every trap pictured would ruin much of the animal that’s killed. The people that had their eyes gouged out... yeah it’s not as black and white as most horror movies but there sure is way too much evidence of the tribe people being the “bad guys” to just be ignored. Not saying what the guy did was right but I’m not blaming him either
god, mila's last "fuck you" (11:45) really hurt when i put myself in adam's place. i couldn't imagine living with that as the last memory of my friend, let alone my significant other. that said, that's exactly its purpose. 10/10 horror at its finest
Well he died so, he didn't live with it lol
I was putting myself in Milas place thinking how awful it must've felt to be abandoned by her fiancé. Made me squint at my own husband lol.
@@JB-bm1to well what the hell was he supposed to do?
I really like the actress that played her too so seeing that happen really made me hate Adam 😂
@@austinwayne62mf shit up
As someone who did a lot of hiking with my dad in Ohio, I recognized a bunch of the locations this movie was filmed in. It was a pleasant surprise to see a horror film made in places I recognize.
"morally grey on both sides" they deadass tried to kidnap their hog tied friend and pretended not to speak english or communicate, they killed another injured girl, have blind sex slaves....
Tbh I felt like them killing Millie was supposed to be a mercy kill, one of the spikes looked like it pierced her heart, she had a pretty slim chance of survival
@Cman Buiscit hold up
@Cman Buiscit Should i be concerned :D
@@Starlight-by3cf Depends, how much experience do you have with escaping locked rooms?
I posted this in another comment that didn't get any attention, but I think that the "both" sides were supposed to be the town inhabitants and the woke college students, NOT the foundation. This is muddled by how much focus there is on the Foundation as villains, but thematically it fits - the towners came to their help despite the way they treated each other.
“Did you just kill an innocent man?”
So just ignoring that they kidnapped him using a trap then tied him to a stick like a pig upside down
i m sure they just wanted give him a hug
@@hubertgizinski7962 they wanted to hug him while hanging him over fire
for real. I'd go "Let's pick him up like a normal person", and if I also spoke English.... id communicate instead of intentionally not speaking english to the group of worried people???
If you watched the movie, they were going to put him back on the road for someone to find. So then he assumed "big scary deer man go eat me" and bludgeoned him. But alas... DID HE HAVE TO CARRY HIM IN A PIG-ON-A-STICK FASION!!??
@@thebigcheese_6997 yeah considering what they do, i highly doubt that
"We'll be careful"
"YOU'LL BE DEAD"
I caught that Star Wars reference 👀
wait 14 hours ago?
rwby did you learn time traveling along with silver eyes?
@@ddpoohndave1 Paetron I suspect.
RUBY ROSE OMFG
How is this 14 hours ago???!?!?
The tragic part about this movie was Luis getting put down and the way he looks at Jen even if he doesn't see her it's so sad that he felt there presence to just be put down
“didn’t even wanna SEE if he’d wanna come with?” oh boy james that’s some phrasing there
Shaved head James can’t hurt you
Shaved head James doesn’t exist
Shaved head James
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he looks like an early 2000s rapper
@@luigiwiiUU 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂lmfaoooo most underrated comment
He looks like a West Point recruit
@@luigiwiiUU lol
@Chilly Chase 2: Judgement Day He look like Skittle
I QUITE like that ending credit sequence where they pull a "ha ha! our organization found you, you can't escape!!!" only to then get their entire organization wrecked by a very angry victim who goes Doom Guy on them.
Actually the only part of the movie I liked, boy did they ever forget the them of their movie after the first 30 minutes
Suddenly foundation got nerf their instinct and skill as hunter are dull that 1 girl can kill all 4wtf
Theres no way that tiny lady can take on that many people. I guess the foundation sent their blind captives to do it for them.
@@BillGates-bg1wz You say that, but Linda Hunt can straight up kill a squad of elite mercenaries in If Looks Could Kill.
@@BillGates-bg1wz dude... You realize that with weapons your size really does not matter that much? Being smaller is actually an advantage
Probably not a great idea to attempt Both Sides: The Movie when things breakdown to the murderous forest cult, the racist hick townies, and vaguely judgey college kids who don't obey trail signs.
@liquid sword ❄️
@@Anonymoose345 i think you’re the snowflake
@@Anonymoose345traitor
@@validark blud came back a year later to try and make a point
Yeah, as badly as the movie tries to frame the college kids... there was barely a single time in the movie where those oh so bad college kids weren't basically completely justified in their paranoia. It's how you badly make a both sides movie.
Or even worse, if they truly tried to make a "don't judge a book by its cover" movie and completely failed cuz the cover told everything about the book.
The thing the movie failed at was that the cult being murderous lunatics clearly was supposed to be some subversion of the "don't judge a book by its cover/both sides" trope (which already is... oof messaging), but also they didn't lean on it at all and never made it clear.
Them: "If you would have told the truth you would have been spared
Them later: "WE BLIND ALL TRESSPASSERS!!!!!"
Right?! So it doesn't matter what someone did in this movie universe, even if they didn't kill anyone. They were gonna have a miserable fate unless they could make a deal and prove their usefulness. This almost feels like Hellraiser.
They failed at trying to be a rebooted think piece on morality
@@BlitzoSuck33 nice pfp
A dude deadass goes into the woods to see if this daughter is alive, and doesn’t kill anyone from the foundation along the way. The worst thing he did was shoot a gun in the air in front of the people. And they still thought it was justified to burn out his eyes because he was “TreSSpAssInG” the foundation is beyond fucked up
No we weren’t gonna kill him we were just gonna eat dinner with him it’s spaghetti night wanna come? We just had him blindfolded and held him like a pig we do that with everyone .
The fact that they refused to speak the same language at that moment is just ridiculous !
@@cyb11114 A lot of people when put in a stressful situation resort to native languages and accents, could be that those two were kind of thrown off kilter when they got rushed by a group with weapons and just didn't think of it.
@@TheOldOwl8 in any other situation I would agree but this information coupled with the blindfolding and having him tied up across a stretch of wood
I would argue they were gonna kill him
They wanted to do some Return of the Jedi reenactment. They even had a chair rigged up to wires to lift him up in later!
I fed him spaghetti
this didn’t feel like a wrong turn movie
Cause it wasnt it was a shitshow
It felt like a script that originally had nothing to do with wrong turn but they decided slap the name on it for brand recognition. Reminds me of the hellraiser sequels.
@@Blackhawks19_xx facts!
Autumn Hungrige better then the original
Your right. Too many off screen kills😒
I really appreciate that they tried to bring us some nuances and character development, especially by making The Foundation being attacked by our protagonists first. Still, I notice a pretty big plot-hole in this theory - If The Foundation wasn't going to harm them prior to Adam killing Samuel, why did they take their phones at night? Also, if their goal is for these people to disappear, why did they stashed their belongings in a random shed in the woods, when we later find out that they have a whole town for themselves? The film has a lot of good ideas, but also a lot of inconsistencies, so it could cash in on as many horror tropes as possible.
This reboot is “smashing”.
Edit: woah the replies took a “wrong turn”
Yeah, baby, yeah!
@@rookV1.08.4 such a crappy movie. Boring and clickbait.
Samuel would have to agree
The reboot is shit
Claps with the force of tsar bomba
Homie was trapped in a bear trap and dragged through a tunnel, put hand and feet tied than carried hooded and a stick. Then they try to make us feel like he didn't have a reason to kill the one of the people who trapped and kidnapped him.... really!? That's the major issue I had with the story.
why u forget that they killed 1 of their friends with a fukin tree
@@hubertgizinski7962 great point! See? We are all out here calling some b.s. on that story line.
@@RikerBiker the foundation also blinds people for "trespassing", so my guess is that they were just lying about bringing Adam to the road and that he would have just been blinded and thrown into the cave if the group hadn't saved him.
The “liberal” group literally had every reason to kill the foundation and now by the sounds of it this movie tried to show that actually they were in the wrong, and were being killed for judging a different “culture” lmao I hate this fucking movie tbh
@@olivinator true true.
This moment haunts me the most. 18:26
Poor Luis.
Imagine living like this for weeks, scared and alone and slowly losing your sanity.
At least he received a merciful death.
Of all the characters in the movie, he suffered the most, you can see in Jen's face the anguish when she puts him down for good
That scene was genuinely unsettling. Even moreso considering all the things that were implied - that the people in the dark had gone completely feral, and that the men of the tribe took advantage of the females and raped them.
Now this is a movie worth making a sequel of. This Wrong Turn movie did what many of the other ones did not, provide more background, dialogue, and diversity to the characters as well as the movie itself and while having emotion for those who died and those living in the rural town and in The Foundation
This film was woke garbage
@@megaxrobertson759 But was it worse than the sequels before it though? 🤨
I understand your opinion though, not every movie can please anyone, and people including you and me along w/others have different tastes in movies, shows, etc.
@@solescorpionofficial bro wrong turn is about horror gore disgusting deaths with a bit of comedy and laughing psycho cannibals. And hot chicks and nude scenes with violence. Literally its a comedyfest. Thats what the series is about. And the funny thing is everyone dies in the end of the movie . No one survives except some cannibal
@@megaxrobertson759 True, the franchise is known for its gore, violence and some sort of comedy added to it, even if most people haven't seen past the first 3 movies of the franchise
@@megaxrobertson759 Others are into it being and having it stay like that, others aren't. That's simply normality in cinema and entertainment
“We tied him up like a pig and blindfolded him so we could take him to hospital”
“So why were you pretending to speak a different language?”
“Ermmm....”
To be fair he never spoke English and what makes the assumption that he understood it?
@@lightvsdarkness960 The guy speaks english and the rest of the foundation speaks english... plus its set in the US, so the assumption would be that they at least understand english due to exposure to it.
@@jamescalder5115 when did he speak it though? The only time I saw him speak was at the "court" but it was a different language
They speak beat Boxing
@@hooksetfishing9305 💀
" Since Adam is the type of guy traumatize first, questions later"
Isn't that just about everyone in a horror movie though
Yeah I'm with deadmeat... there's absolutely no way samuel and his brother were only taking Adam down the mountain... Trespassing is grounds for darkness, they had eyes in the woods watching the group the entire time, they knew what they were doing
The woman warning them to stay on the trails isn't even an ominous horror movie thing. That's just good advice for Appalachia in general
The mother talking during the fakeout death was the most unsettling thing I've ever seen in my life so far
Guess you had a nEasy life till now im happy for you
Shit creep me 😭
You must be young and coddled. Give it some time and you'll be more exposed to the pain and suffering of the world. Being desensitized isn't so bad. 😁
I highly recommend playing silent hill if you want to truly unsettled
@@lionelhutz5137 yes, you and willy are very edgy. Congrats.
“Did you kill that man for no reason?”
Ah yes, you know the classic hogtie - used by rescue professionals all around the world to *checks notes* scorch people’s eyes out and throw them into a pitch black prison? Yeah, no reason at all.
To be fair, had Adam not killed Samuel and his friends no lied about it, they wouldn't have been tortured like that.
Still a pretty fucked up punishment for lying in court though.
@@Faelocke they would have been tortured, they would have been tortured for “trespassing” like Jens father almost was.
I just love how the group collectively forgot The Foundation shot first (in the form of a wood log straight to Garys face) so it really was an act of self defence.
shity fritten movie
@@Testingthisname I'm pretty sure setting traps that can injure or kill humans is illegal even if you're using them for the express purpose of hunting. That log trap might not be specifically outlawed in the way several types are under many state laws, but The Foundation is assuredly not allowed to do that stuff. The pit with chain at very least is illegal under a lot of laws about hunting traps.
@@Testingthisname if trap was made to harm then it was made to harm tho
@@Testingthisname you're such a lunatic loll
@@Testingthisname your home and a random plot of land that no one knows belongs to you are two VERY different things, they were warned that the nature was dangerous, not that there were homicidal maniacs that torture kill everyone that dares to take a step onto their illegally claimed and completely unmarked territory. also, it's pretty clear that the foundation triggered the log trap, so that's clear murder and attempted murder.
I actually liked seeing Scott’s kinda transformation and willingness to kill just to save his daughter. It’s an interesting thing to see. Up until he saw the trap kill that father and son, he’d only heard that the foundation was bad, but then he got to see just how bad they are
“Did you kill that man for no reason?”
No I killed him cos I fell into a human trap and then I was tied up to a big stick and these 2 men were taking me somewhere
you forgot the bag over his head, because when you take someone down a mountain for them to be "found and rescued" you absolutely have to put bags over their heads, everyone knows that.
yes, yes he did kill him for no reason :)
@@olivinator Don't forget the giant log rolling down hill.
These types of movies deliberately make no differentiation between narrow mindedness and legit risk/threat assessment.
Imagine if the families of the teens actually called the cops after few days of their disappearance. The movie ending wouldn't be so dragged out.
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Yeah but these characters def aren't teens. If they're all the same age as that oncologist then they are at least 28/29
Weren’t they college grads
@@Njai15 considering that a double degree is around 7/8 years and that she may of taken a gap year after completing highschool they would've been in their late 20s.
@@zanecampbell3357 Shut up.
We just not gonna talk about the fact that Luis had his man die and he was blinded in pretty much the same day, and had to live off scraps while being blind. Horrible fate
poor guy
Fr :((
that's just fucking shitty
He was given the worst fate in the entire movie
10:45 “ thought they were monsters”
Dude who do you think set up the trap that took him away . They were even carrying him like a freshly hunted kill. It’s not like they had him on a ambulatory stretcher
I like how Jen goes from regular basic white rich college girl to Lara Croft with that bow.
I mean she could change a tire though so her stock is already +50 on another basic rich college girl.
@@theguybrarian True but changing a tire and suddenly having a Legolas level of archery are totally different affairs.
Just finished watching the movie and I really wish they would have expanded on the foundation's lifestyle a bit more instead of cheaping out with the "6 weeks later". The character's changed so much off screen that it really lost something by the end of the movie.
And all in just 6 weeks
@@thealchmst I agree it also seems such a short period of time for someone to change so drastically
They were literally carrying him away with a bag on his head how tf is it a moral discussion?
🇮 🇰 🇷 !?
I’m assuming they want their identity and secret society kept a secret, so they’d put a bag over his head to keep him from seeing them
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@@loganirwin5022 Yes, as they kidnapped him.
And they killed the girl who fell on the spikes. Definitely ate her.
“Did you kill him for no reason” after being tied to a log and bagged
Liberal Logic. God I hate these people.
@@bearbonesphones4686 oh god a conservative gross
@@bearbonesphones4686 what do u mean ??
@@bearbonesphones4686 it is a movie
@@shamarbarrett9958 he’s trolling
This really didn’t feel like wrong turn. It feels more of a movie of its own.
Why was her family just sitting there waiting to get murdered, like dude your sister is in a fight with a guy HELP HER
It was a vision so
@@mysecretaccount5029 you right
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James: She said that she left them this morning to pee
Me who hasn't seen the movie: well that's bullshit
James: which is bullshit to me
Me: RIGHT
😂😂😂
She definitely killed Venable at the end, no way he'd just let her slowly walk off with little Ruthie without trying to stop her
According to google she killed a “fleeing Venable” which probably means he’s still alive cause that wasn’t Venable at the end
@@carmellasofo8337 no way he'd let her walk away without trying to kill her and no way she'd let him walk away without killing him. I just don't see it unless they do some lame shit where she thinks he's dead but he isn't
4:45 Can we all take a moment to appreciate this outburst? I love it. Almost makes me want Star Wars counts just to see how James can meme them.
“Hmm ok so let me get this straight. You had this man fall into a trap hole, tied his arms and legs to a stick so it be impossible for him to run or escape and carried him like a pig while blindfolded, didn’t speak English when you are perfectly able to when the friends of the guy you’re carrying are asking you to let him go. And you did all this to help them” “Yeah that’s correct”
“Aight I don’t see how you’re in the wrong her at all”
Yeah James is definitely correct about the not really helping thing
Honestly, I’m always happy when James even slightly enjoys a movie
It makes my day when he’s happy about a movie!
Why did so true tho
Yep
Love How there’s realism behind the characters and they actually act human And it’s harder for the character’s to move on after-someone dies
They really took it too far though.
@@georgecarmody8731 that i can definitely agree on
You say this, but after each character dies they are never mentioned again. The respond in the moment to the first death, but after that it doesn’t matter when people die
This movie may've overstayed its welcome like out-of-town relatives at Thanksgiving, but God those last 2 kills were amazing. The ferocity, the violence; amazing.
If this movie wasn’t called “wrong turn” you wouldn’t have even known it was a wrong turn movie. There was no deformed cannibal hillbillies. It was a cult living in the woods and the people for the most part died by accident by the traps placed in the woods for animals. It was kinda wack.
Thought the same but tbh I think they threw in “cannibal hillbillies” with the people putto darkness. Cuz they’re pretty “deformed” and wild, and at the end the 2 ended up eating the body of the guy Jen killed
@@LillyOkCool just cuz they were starving from being left in a cage. Not like the originals where the hillbillies ate them because they enjoyed it.
True, but if they hadn't named it a "Wrong Turn" movie, I bet everyone would've ended up calling it a "Wrong Turn" ripoff anyway.
That’s what James said lol
It doesn't look like the traps were made for wild animals tho. Remember, they already had livestock in their community, and if they wanted traps to defend themselves, they would have put them closer to the community, rather than scattering them around the forest. Also, most of the traps seem to be made to count for a human's size, not an wild animal's. The holes were almost perfect size for a human, the spikes were aimed at chest height, the falling round spiked log had a hole narrow enough you would be forced to stand, which would result your death by spikes to the head. The rolling log is not fit for an animal either. Their extremist approach when it comes to punishment also makes me think that they were actually putting traps for people
The ending wasnt even Jen crashing the car, it was just the fact that it makes literally zero sense for these secluded mountain folk to know how to drive
OMG i'm dying laughing at this comment
After she left they must've went down to the local DMV for road tests 🤣
Lol that's so true omg who issued these stick people a license
Also how the fuck did they find her? They are living in the woods. I doubt they found her on Facebook.
My guy did have a nice haircut. So i assumed they knew a little about society.
The ending was satisfying enough to me, the main character survived and got vengeance
Well even do It did not feel like a Wrong Turn movie for me its quite good and i well rank It up better compare to Wrong Turn 4 -6 but no sow mutch over 1-3.
Perhqps
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@@zanecampbell3357 no
Yay
I keep watching these kill counts over, man I love your content! The "You'll be dead!" got me on this one XD 4:45
The part with the people with eyes stabbed out wandering in the dark fucked me up
same
couldnt agree more
One of her friends that had his eyes taken eyes gave me more chills since you could see clearly and a good shot of his face.
I definitely could’ve gone without seeing that.
Same can't even sleep at night 😢
A Bird approves of this Kill Count.
Thank you bird
A Hot Dog approves of this Kill Count.
You're a good bird
We don’t need your approval
Thanks bird
“Did you just kill this man for no reason?”
Bruh, they were hanging him Ewok Village style! What do you think they were going to do?
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i m pretty sure that could count as kidnaping
this movie was realy dumb but not in positive way as previous WT mocies with imbreed cannibals
Really fits given Ewoks ate those they killed
I'm confused. Jakes said they get killed based on their assumptions but when they see people at their tent at night, their phones are stolen and one of their friend got kidnapped at that point it's self defense.
I'm not condoning their superstition but their fri3nd was kidnapped and tied up they had every right to at least knock them out
@@Boiling_Beanstheir friend wasnt kidnapped she went out to use the restroom.
“Wait did he just tell em to eat shit.” Had me dying 🤣
ye and stupid turd that jidnaped their frend ewoke style refuased to speak english
This movie made me feel quite sad towards the deaths that happened, with Mila getting killed and the "mercy" kill of Luis it portrayed them all as real people and that's why in my opinion this is best wrong turn movie, like what was said they aren't just blank slates they have actual depth
That's why #2 was always my favorite in this series. I was impressed how sympathetic the characters were (seriously remarkable given the reality-TV setting the movie took place in) and how bad I felt when they were taken out.
The other sequels felt almost sadistic about it - like we were supposed to cheer when the protagonists suffered and the bad-guys won.
I like how they made all the characters deaths sad instead of just
“Oh uhh everyone is disposable they should all die”
I agree. When I watched the movie I was like...
"Man, I like these characters. Too bad this is a horror movie where they die"
I'm really happy that modern horror movies actually try to have characters that we care about again. Now if only monster movies would do the same...
Except for the bad guys
0:14 now I know what’s you did last summer
At this point it should be a running gag that wrong turn isn’t filmed in Appalachia
This film was shot in the hocking hills area in ohio
Hey, as an ohioan I find it offensive that you dont think we are Appalachian Americans 😂😂
This should just be called "The Foundation", it has nothing to do with the Wrong Turn franchise
Fr wat a dissapointment🤦🏽♂️
Eva... it's not supposed to have anything to do with that franchise. Same name... different premise. People really need to get over this film not involving deranged, deformed, hillbilly cannibals.
SCP-Foundation: Am I a joke to you?
@@aragornderheld SCP has so much movie potential
It is a reboot of the franchise. So they can disregard characters and storyline and just stick to the premise.
"did you kill this man for no reason?" That's rich. The two dudes were going to definitely kill him wherever they were going to take them so I'd claim self defense too or a moment of passion, you pick.
Not to mention their 2 dead friends 😭😂
Well they did not 100 percent knew they did
Again, that’s an assumption. They claim later that they were going to take him to safety. Assuming they would “definitely kill him” is part of the problem still.
@@hkazu63 yea no they definitely were considering they kill and or harm people for just trespassing
@@unknownflickz1289 Point is nobody knew that. Using future knowledge to retroactively justify judgement based on assumptions isn’t really solid.
James' commentary is legendary! I was not ready for, "LEMME HOLLA AT CHA!" lmao!
Fun fact about archery. The technical skills of it are actually relatively easy to learn to the point of someone being able to grasp the basics within a day of practicing. The real troubles come from the shoulder and back strength needed for the war bows that you would have to fire for a long time.
You can kinda learn the basics in a day. But it will take weeks to months to be able to do the firm correctly. And those weren't war bows. Those were recurves. War bows could range anywhere from recurve to longbow, with the Styles varying. But it would definitely take more than a day to perfect the form. You might be able to replicate the basics of the form but would probably forget most of the little details until you'd practiced enough. When I learned a style similar to the Olympic style it took me awhile to get the correct release down. And you'd only use your back muscles if you were transferring correctly. You can learn to pull the bow using your back muscles not your arm muscles but I've always struggled with that. So I tend to pull with my arms and then when I reach my draw point I then transfer to my back and will be holding the weight of the bow with my back and not my arms.
Or at least from the shots I could see they looked like recurves. But since I've only seen the kill count and not the movie I can't see the whole bow. But I might be wrong. The main difference between a recurve and longbow is that a recurve curves in at the ends and a longbow does not. You'll have to watch for yourself to see if it does or not.
*Finally a decent Wrong Turn movie comes out*
Me: Wait, that's illegal
It was bad
@@JVCKPOT i found better than the crap we got after the third one
@@DodoRibeiro-ts6po atleast they were true to the series
Nah i still see myself watching the older ones the this one.
What’s the point of remaking something if it’s already been done, this movie is refreshing because it brings something new
If you ever wanna go on that hike, I'm sure we'd be fine with a bit of a break. Just because you have a huge following, doesn't mean you can't do things that you want to do that might (definitely) will take some time. Take that hike. If you want to do it, do it. If it's something you really wanna do, you do it.
"I went through the Wrong Turn Series Last Summer"
You see, I Remember What You Did Last Summer. It was the Wrong Turn Series Kill Count.
When James said If They wanted to see if Luis wanted to come along I laughed really hard because Luis was blinded and the joke makes sense
“I covered the Wrong Turn franchise last summer”
Me: *LAST SUMMER, HOWWWWW?*
We know what he did last summer.
I had a very similar reaction.. like no no last summer... no... no way... 😂😩
"We'll be careful."
"You'll be dead!" 🤣
If you're wondering: the guys who made comments 14+ hours ago are patreons
Thank you, that legit confused me every time. I'm always like "did RUclips really let me know about this videos that late?"
Ahhhhh that makes so much sense!
Ohhhh
still baffles me how some people don’t know this
You got me skimming through the comment section now 🤣🤣