"I'm surprised to find you so ungrateful" is a really good line that conveys the dynamic between these two so well, and how great Frollo is at emotional manipulation. I wish it was in the film proper.
Believe me, I know plenty of ill-tempered narcissistic self-righteous sons of bitches in my life who will "say" such things, but were only tolerating me on an hourly wage.
I admit, Tom Hulce has a damn nice singing voice, but I find that Alan Menken's demo is more pleasing to my ears. (Call it bias, call it whatever you will.)
As a stakeholder, i used to see these WIP reels about 12 months out from release. This one may actually be further out as there are no finished cells (uncolored) - just storyboard art. About 6 months out you would see mostly uncolored cells, with some colored and some full motion segments - usually b+w. But they would always have one musical segment fully completed to sell the film.
Not under capitalism my friend. Everything you do you do for a master who does everything it can not to pay the people who actually make the dreams come true. Hell the upcoming Lion King remake is redoing the movie shot for shot but Disney is weaseling their way out of not paying royalties to the original creators! The mega Corporation worth billions upon billions can't pay out the small percentage they give to the few workers who can get it. :/ Of course Disney has mined the public domain for free stories we all own & yet has shut the door behind them to make sure nothing a corporation makes will ever be public domain itself, their history is sacrosanct and for exponentially increasing profit
@@Be1lover It's possible. There's an album of compiled songs Howard Ashman wrote from all of the musicals he's done, ranging from Broadway shows and movies all performed by Ashman himself.
So in the demo... "Out There" was NOT supposed to end in its namesake note. It was supposed to end on a balladical, which would have made it sadder. I personally like the final version with the OT high note more. (PS: an "Out There" high note is any end note held for 12 seconds or more, whereas a balladical is an ending note that is similar to those found at the end of soft ballads- it's at the end of "Heaven's Light" and most Disney love songs. The ones in "Topsy Turvy," "Court of Miracles," and "A Guy Like You" are all stop-fronts: the exact OPPOSITE of an OT; it's held for about 1 second.)
By the way, there's also a special type of OT high note (also named by me): a "Gethsemane OT," which is held for 20 seconds or more. It's named for the epic note held in the Jesus Christ Superstar song "Gethsemane (I Only Want to Say)." The 2000 musical version, featuring Paul Kandel (CLOPIN) as King Herod, had Kandel hitting one of these in his number: in one recording, the last word in the line "at least that's what you said" is held for 20 seconds FLAT.
And that same recording ends on a Kandel note (yes, it's named for Kandel's EXTREME tendency to do this). By the way, the most famous example of that note in HOND? "Frollo felt a twinge of fear for his immortal soul..." (The last two words, "immortal soul," are Kandel notes. They're any low tenor note that ends up making you sound like PK.)
Was this supposed to be the opening song but they decided to make it the second song in the movie? I'm Just asking because they put the hunchback of notre dame logo at the end.
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"I'm surprised to find you so ungrateful" is a really good line that conveys the dynamic between these two so well, and how great Frollo is at emotional manipulation. I wish it was in the film proper.
Disney must have been blown away by this. After all the work he had done for them to come out with this. Outstanding
In this version frollo seems like he’s telling Quasimodo that everything he’s done for him is in his best interest
Believe me, I know plenty of ill-tempered narcissistic self-righteous sons of bitches in my life who will "say" such things, but were only tolerating me on an hourly wage.
The beginning is even sadder and darker than in the final version and it just says everything about the dynamic between Frollo and Quasimodo.
I want there to be an Alan Menken compilation album of him performing demos of his favorite songs from the musicals he helped create.
I always loved the part of Quasimodo because his heart was as good as gold
I admit, Tom Hulce has a damn nice singing voice, but I find that Alan Menken's demo is more pleasing to my ears. (Call it bias, call it whatever you will.)
I actually agree with you on that. Tom Hulce was wonderful, but this is just amazing!
This sounds like Tom singing with Alan on piano
Of course he does, he played Mozart in the 80’s
@@ns3510 No, this is the demo recording, featuring Alan Menken as Quasimodo, and Stephen Schwartz as Frollo.
I love that Frollo has a longer part than in the movie.😍
There is a charm when witnessing song demos, especially Alan Menken for example
As a stakeholder, i used to see these WIP reels about 12 months out from release. This one may actually be further out as there are no finished cells (uncolored) - just storyboard art. About 6 months out you would see mostly uncolored cells, with some colored and some full motion segments - usually b+w. But they would always have one musical segment fully completed to sell the film.
Working at Disney must be a dream come true for any artist.
Not under capitalism my friend. Everything you do you do for a master who does everything it can not to pay the people who actually make the dreams come true.
Hell the upcoming Lion King remake is redoing the movie shot for shot but Disney is weaseling their way out of not paying royalties to the original creators! The mega Corporation worth billions upon billions can't pay out the small percentage they give to the few workers who can get it. :/
Of course Disney has mined the public domain for free stories we all own & yet has shut the door behind them to make sure nothing a corporation makes will ever be public domain itself, their history is sacrosanct and for exponentially increasing profit
2:48 that concept drawing of Disney-Phoebus looks like Greg Sestero a.k.a. Mark from Tommy Wiseau’s Cult Film: The Room.
”Anyway, how’s your sex life?”
Oh hai Phoebus!
loving these menken demos
I would have preferred alan be the official voice of Quasimodo... ❤️
Wish they kept the intro that way. It was way more intense
This is a great demo, but I honestly think that it's Stephen Schwartz singing as Frollo
Are you sure?
@@Be1lover It's possible. There's an album of compiled songs Howard Ashman wrote from all of the musicals he's done, ranging from Broadway shows and movies all performed by Ashman himself.
Schwartz sings Frollo's part and Menken sings Quasimodo's
Schwartz was the Frollo we needed
@@AwesomeSaucePictures Absolutely 💯
So in the demo... "Out There" was NOT supposed to end in its namesake note. It was supposed to end on a balladical, which would have made it sadder. I personally like the final version with the OT high note more. (PS: an "Out There" high note is any end note held for 12 seconds or more, whereas a balladical is an ending note that is similar to those found at the end of soft ballads- it's at the end of "Heaven's Light" and most Disney love songs. The ones in "Topsy Turvy," "Court of Miracles," and "A Guy Like You" are all stop-fronts: the exact OPPOSITE of an OT; it's held for about 1 second.)
And all those terms were made up by me.
By the way, there's also a special type of OT high note (also named by me): a "Gethsemane OT," which is held for 20 seconds or more. It's named for the epic note held in the Jesus Christ Superstar song "Gethsemane (I Only Want to Say)." The 2000 musical version, featuring Paul Kandel (CLOPIN) as King Herod, had Kandel hitting one of these in his number: in one recording, the last word in the line "at least that's what you said" is held for 20 seconds FLAT.
And that same recording ends on a Kandel note (yes, it's named for Kandel's EXTREME tendency to do this). By the way, the most famous example of that note in HOND? "Frollo felt a twinge of fear for his immortal soul..." (The last two words, "immortal soul," are Kandel notes. They're any low tenor note that ends up making you sound like PK.)
One final thing: the "at least that's what you've said" Gethsemane note doubles as a Kandel note, making it a Gethsemane-Kandel (or Gethsemel) note.
I love this demo.
Was this supposed to be the opening song but they decided to make it the second song in the movie? I'm Just asking because they put the hunchback of notre dame logo at the end.
Michael Dunlap Nah, this was put together as a demonstration reel, hence the all over the place concept art and the final title card
lazicful oh okay.
Would be a kinda sad intro lmao
lazicful yeah... Well I was confused for a minute so...
smkanimator2009 I agree with you but the movie had Frollo accidentally killing Quasimodo’s mother. Pretty sad intro in my opinion
Your very much welcome
i did too so i took it cut out the Don Hahn beginning and then Enhanced the color
geat
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Me encanta esta canción 😍 os dejo el link del cover de “Fuera” que he hecho de ese tema. Espero que os guste…. ruclips.net/video/XoDkGhPFo74/видео.html
“Everything I Am” en Español del musical de Tarzan de Broadway
ruclips.net/video/qHhZVkaWHPw/видео.html
:D
Who's singing this? I guess isn't Alan Menken it doesn't like him.
It actually is Alan Menken.
At first I didn't think it was him, that's why I asked
Alan sings Quasimodo's part, so the beginning with Frollo isn't him (besides the interjections), then he takes over
@@knopflerfan9069 Um, then is Frollo sung by Stephen Schwartz? Some comments say he is?
@@guyinmink4068 Yep, it is Stephen.