What's behind ASEAN's latest tilt towards China?
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- ASEAN's position on US-China rivalry has tipped towards Beijing for the first time in recent years. That is according to results of a survey by the ISEAS - Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore, released earlier this month. CNA's Otelli Edwards speaks to Mr Choi Shing Kwok, director and chief executive officer of the ISEAS - Yusof Ishak Institute, as well as Emeritus Professor of Sociology Lau Siu-Kai from the Chinese University of Hong Kong, to find out more.
It is US hypocrisy in plain view, that moved the needle.
Only CNA has not understood that the world is fed up with US (West)
Yes, why should anyone be buddy with a genocide supporter.
Australia should abandon AUKUS and become an ASEAN member.
The majority of Aseans are pragmatic to tilt towards Beijing. They choose peace and development and perhaps prosperity.
China’s track record of peaceful trading/commerce for thousands of years with other Asian countries is the best criteria for favoring China over US.
LOL funny. It's the Biden administrations underhanded dealings and incompetence.
Exactly~. The U.S., Europe, Australia, & Japan, all want South Asian nations & India to volunteer to be a war zone against China.
I live in SEA and China has been a good friend while the US has disappointed. The tilt was obvious and understated.
Marcos leading Philippines to be the pariah of ASEAN
Not really! It’s China which is making itself the pariah not only in ASEAN but throughout the world!
Marcos doing good siding with USA 90% ang pilipinos are pro US
@@LantangKaturay ｓｂ
Nah... he is simply serving his old master.
United States regime has deployed intermediate range missiles in an ASEAN country. ASEAN countries are now at risk of becoming collateral damage of a nuclear war.
It's consequence of tilting..
Ukraine #2 PH under Marcos #2
The Philippines used to be the second richest country in Asia. Now it is one of the poorest. Even war torn Vietnam has beaten the Philippines
You’re talking out of your ass! Explain how! Mr economist? 🤡🤡
You talk nonsense!
That is why some Filipinos are experiencing some "nostalgia" for Arnercian Penetration into their government under the formal Marcos administration.
@@LantangKaturay Pinoy ka ata te. Totoo naman talaga. Philippines is just a vassal of US. Nothing more nothing less. Lol.
That's because Philippines is still a colony of you know who. They can't decide what's best for them, especially in foreign affairs. Sad.
At least China is not a warmonger. We all know who the real warmonger is.
the anser is CHINA,,,the ONLY country sending threats to others that you can READ!
The warmonger is the one hosing poor Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen and attacking their fishing ships.
@@EbuzzNYChistory clearly show US is the warmonger. Facts please
clueless
@@EbuzzNYC fishermen? when?
Who in the ASEAN doesn't know that Uncle Sam is the perpetual warmonger?
I'm from Singapore. While my country is on good terms with the Chinese, Singapore only buys weapons from the west and we do support uncle Sam in many other areas as well. And I'll prefer Uncle Sam over China.
@@solonavi3928 Not surprised for a cow worshipper who also a great bootlicker for fair skin. 😂😂
Keep Singapore out of it, let Philippines become the next project Ukraine.
Kissinger: "To be an enemy of the Americans is dangerous, to be an ally it's fatal."
@@andrewlim7751 same with the Chinese
SCS is an ASEAN issue not others , they wakeup and all have eyes on PH.
We the people of ASEAN may not as big or strong as the Super Powers, but we are not stupid nor dumb you know
funny, most of us is now in caught in debt trap by the chinese
In current times, name One significant achievement ASEAN has had, while Myanmar is out of order, Pphines making its stand, with outside help..
@@tonykiang9052
You obviously think that american truly cares about, and genuinely "helping" Philippines people towards the same fade as Ukraine, don't you?
What a pity shallow point of view, hahaha
@@bernanhalim3455 U have the answers for the Pphines? U obviously not Filipino..
Go back school for Historical Pphines & US during WW2..
And u know the future of Ukraine? Poor kiddo
@@tonykiang9052
You obviously think that there's a future for Ukraine, don't you old pap?
If you think you know the history of what american did to the Philippines, your history education is seriously questionable 😊
Malaysia , Thailand , Cambodia , Vietnam , Singapore, Indonesia , Laos , Myanmar and Brunei chooses China mean while Philippines choose US
Yet the Philippines leads the GDP growth rate in south east asia 😂
Marcos chose US， not Philippines
@@designengrwafu5310 India's GDP growth is 50%.
@@designengrwafu5310 you stay materialistic and kowtow to China.. praise your Chinese heritage... But know this
Philippines beat your Chinese father's 40000 to 900 only during Battle of yultong...
It's not the quantity of something, it's the quality that matters.
Prostrate yourselves to China, but we will rely on our blood brothers.... Time and time again US had shared blood ties with us during war and calamities that none of these so called ASEAN brotherhood shared with filipinos.... We don't need ASEAN anyway.😛😛😛😛( Of course I'm kidding)
@@keli4068 DEFENDING THE COUNTRY FROM THIEVES IS WHAT PH IS DOING. WE HAVE KICKED OUT SPAIN, U.S. JAPAN, BRITAIN AND THE DUTCH BEFORE, WHAT MADE YOU THINK CHINA THE TERRITORY THIEF IS AN EXCEPTION?
Doubt the credibility of the survey. ASEAN had expressed wariness of the tensions created by China's unilateral grab of almost all of the South China including parts of the exclusive economic zones of the Phils,Vietnam,S. Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia & Brunei
The South China Sea has been under China's control for thousands of years, do the ASEAN countries worry about it?
it is not news, it was old news. And it was just a starting point
After everything has been said, i would rather live in america where my liberty and frerdom is guaranteed.
2000 participants only? Thats not very representative of 600M people
I agree, but I think it shows the change in attitudes more and what the Israel issue is doing to US.
They surveyed the CCP supporters😢
Enough to represent me. USA is full of hypocrisy and can't be trusted.
Only young and naive people who never lived through the times when we had to constantly bow down to the white people believe the propaganda of Hollywood will choose USA.
@@winifredobalbago2363 A Pinoy american wannabee spotted.. Aminion mo toy.. Lol...
It is called sampling. 😅
It's just that we are sick and tired of their attitudes and the way they treat us.
国安法 in HK is very powerful. For SG, just play both sides.
How powerful outside HK and China. Lol
Dependent on demographic of respondents and how many are ethnic Chinese with nationalistic sentiment?
I can literally pick any random 2000 people and create any results I want.
You must have failed your Stat 101 in college.
statistically, you only need 1000 people to gain a fairly accurate statistic
I absolutely agree! ppl in Malaysia I speak with are 99% against USA. the statics are inaccurate on the ground level. Almost 100% of ppl I know have 0% trust on America to do the right thing and stop starting wars around the world.
@@angusyoung1448 And you failed Psych 101. There's limited credibility with surveys. Something as simple as FRAMING - how the question is phrased can radically change answers even if it's the same question. You can look up examples online. Not just framing, but even what questions came before this and what tone they set can also radically change responses. How far down the survey the question was and how much fatigue had set in, recency bias - meaning what big news happened in just the couple of days before relating to the issue and many more factors can radically change results. How did they correct for bias? How did they select a representative 2000 out of a pool of 600 million? They don't say. If I'm doing a survey on unemployment and I go ask people in CBD during lunch hour, everyone is employed so I'm not getting reliable results even if I ask 2000. It's a biased sample. And the chances increase when it's only 2000 out of so many different countries, demographics, industries. If you go ask in a port with filipino fisherman, you'll get a 100% tilt towards US. That's what I mean when I say you tell me what results you want, and just by controlling my sample selection, question framing, location, when I ask it, etc I can create those results.
The leverage of Chinese splashing RMB in the region benefiting vested interest business groups and the subversion of mass media especially social media plus the negativity of Hamas-Israeli conflict has impact on the sentiment of non-Christian countries, in particular Islamic.
Wow US scores so high... should be 10% of those scores...no believe
Thank you for your share Mr.
2000 participants doesn't own the majority. If you're saying ASEAN it should be all member countries of ASEAN. Do not focus on 1 country which is Singapore.
Should Asean tilt towards the US? No. It is not in their interests.
@1:24. Your diagram contradicts what you've just said! Which one should I believe?
They G20 countries Brazil Singapore released in November the CNA reporter's Mediacorp digital Network journal
If u ask Cambodia Laos n perhaps, you will have 80 per cent tilt towards China but if u ask Pinoys, it would be 95 per cent tilt towards US. Spore is pro US n that goes without say. Who would u support a rising power or a declining one?
Answer to the question can be: “why stay with a sinking ship”.
Why can’t we be friends with everyone? You are just so taken with the US idea of you are either a friend or an enemy. That’s so stupid.
That's Asian politics. Western politics know only of maintaining its colonialism, imperialism and global hegemony system.
It seem so true will see at the end
Tilting doesn’t mean picking side. Economy Derisking and tension deesclatating are better representing the asean leaders movements. If 9 moves the same direction leaving one dumx on the x way. Statistically the study is valid.
Can i Inform POFMA about this?
For Philippines its Japan and the US. If other ASEAN wants China then go for it, its your choice.
Obviously the survey didn't ask enough Vietnamese and Filipinos 🤣
Oh c'mon as if 0.5% is relevant 😂😂😂
Who’s saying? Not me.
Didn't understand a single sentence from the HK professor. I doubt the host did either.
ASEAN SEA PERSPECTIVE
ASEAN golden rule is peace. But who is disrupting the status quo?
China's grabbing and creating artificial military islands 100 nautical miles from ASEAN countries while thousand miles away from China. Are ASEAN not concern if their ships one day in the future are prohibited to navigate in the asean seas?
The US are striking deals with ASEAN but NEVER claims any island in our asean seas. I am not saying US is guilt free but China definitely is not innocent either.
2000 participants out of 600M of ASEAN LOL😂😂😂
It was ok using the same number of participants when the numbers were tilting towards US?
Somebody thinks too much of Murika One World Order😂
If all the 600M takes the survey, the result would've been 80/20 in favor of China. It's good for Uncle Sam that only 2000 participated. 😂
go take a statistics class...
you just need 1000 people to get an accurate big picture view
this is how election results are polled and are known long before elections are concluded
They only interview people who has chinese descent 🤣
Did he take the survey in Indonesia too?
It's all about trade and war..and mostly about a war that might go on just a little more spark 🔥 most of ASEAN NATION don't like war and be involved in it..
Survey results is not representative.
This issue of ASEAN survey is not very convincing and hearing this 2 semi chinese gust make matter worst.
They can not express the real result of the survey.
Are you guys really that dense - sample of 2000...
This is simple.And you even don't need a sample.
@@kamaraxs You're absolutely right comrade - if you're china you never need a sample
@@TheGrimStoic You mean BBC and CNN need? -if you're BBC and CNN you never need a sample.
They just "CREATE" sample.
@@kamaraxs I meant China - but I concur BBC and CNN are only less crude, not any less lying
@@TheGrimStoic See..The West Media has created a huge bubble. Now people inside it are forced to only believe what they are willing to believe, and do not care about the rest of the REAL world.
No need to ask any rocket scientists, it's trade.
the empire is in decline, it's clear to see.
SG you are a mainly Chinese country. China is for trade and not war.
We are Chinese yes but we dun feel the same as China Chinese. So stop telling us 中国人民必须帮助中国人民。because we don't feel that way.
China is for taking anything it wants by force if it wants it , even if it belongs to others, and when the others band together to stop this, China gets upset and people like you - a CCP paid mouthpiece of proganda and lies - go stupid telling more lies.
Oh really. China claiming territories from it's neighboring countries is only for trade. Not war. Lol. You make me laugh.
each country in asean moves according to their self interest and not the collective good of the region... we will never back down to any form of oppression and bullying of china. we will defend our territory and freedom may it be in waters, skies and land.
Anziar understand Asean politics? Only his own bravado..LOL
Economic n financial benefits causes the temporary tilt in peace time only.😂
Don’t generalize! Other surveys show that the Philippines and Vietnam have very negative views of China. So, this so called tilt of ASEAN towards China refers only to some countries in the region, not the region as a whole.
A few months ago, Vietnam and China signed 37 agreements related to their sea disputes. When asked why, the Vietnamese government official just replied point blank "We trust China more than the US." CNA's report on ASEAN's tilt towards China is valid, largely because of US support of Israel in the war in Gaza. If water cannons are so bad and unforgivable, I would imagine the hundreds killed during the Philippine-American war using real bullets would've been a grim reminder of that unequal relationship. I think the Philippines is right about its claims in the WPS, but I can also understand China's moves in light of US involvement. This is a bigger geopolitical fight, one that should've been resolved through bilateral talks. If Vietnam could come to an agreement with China, why can't the Philippines?
@@zachary261 Pure misinformation! Stop wasting our time with your nonsensical comments. We are too busy to read your very long, but foolish, comments on YT. Please, give us a break!
Pure nonsense! Stop posting your very long comments on YT. We’re too busy!
Vietnam.... is not that Sinophobic compared to PH. Lol.. Kaloka ka.. In fact, China have several projects in Vietnam.
@@markosmataasii2000 Ignorant comment! Stop propagating misinformation! Shame!
There is only one reason. Greed.
Greed and Arrogance of the US hegemony through sanctions and military muscle flexing all over the world
More than half of the participants are Shymess! 😅 😂😢
I would question the research validity
This survey belongs in the trash bin.
How credible is 🇸🇬 Singaporean-owned ISEAS after TikTok, Shein and Dali stories?
more credible than you and all of PH survey stations. Singapore is independent and educated go back to your uneducated rathole.
lol you are so sour~~~
Koi swimming in two river,
Japan used to be number 2 and number one in Asia, now it’s the 4th and second in Asia. The European civilization and of the ancient near East used to rule the world, in the 19rh-20th century it’s the US, now it’s goin fro be the Asian Century…people are crazy to compare since time horizons are relative. 😮 and a cycle. For example the largest economy before the European Industrial Revolution was China and the Europeans colonized most Asia including China. Read history of the world which is evolving 😅
China News Agency...
Exactly!!!! Need we say more?! Hahahahaha
Money diplomacy..if you are a friend..everything can be taken care of...Cambodia give their port to them in exchange for aid..Myanmar also for their minerals for yuan dollar..count every country in Asia...
In recent times, there are two types of aid or grants. One is for weaponry, where you're required to purchase from the lending country, and the other is for infrastructure development. ASEAN has opted for infrastructure investment over military equipment. ;)
@jtgan7202 I wonder what did the Philippines get from America for giving access to 11 of their military bases. 😂
China has been using Singapore *as a cover* for its operations in other countries.
Of course TikTok etc are named on operation based from Singapore....
Where else can communism hide but at the shade of outward brightness of democracy and a true capitalism.
Jelous to chinese 😂😂😂
Singapore is less than 290 square miles in area, so that is bullshit!
poor man
Bod
Blame it on Genocide Joe.
no child porn no sex with minors no illegal drugs and no illegal firearms in any nation or violence against women or children!!!!!!!!!!!
Bias survey hehehe
How about ASEAN blind about Chinese aggression?
Neither Vietnam, The Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and MOST others disagree with this !
Only Philippines u mean 😂
@@esy15288 NO..ALL of them, it is interesting how Indonesia is now anti Chinese too, when they originally opposed AUKUS but now are in favour of it because of Chinas' recent actions AND China's traditional ally, Vietnam, who is also now and ALLY of the USA because of China also bullying them. In fact , except for Myanmar and to some extent MAYBE Thailand, ALL of ASEAN now are becoming united against China, now imagine this, China spends hundreds of billion on its' military each year, ASEAN spends almost nothing by comparrison, but now is uniting agains China as China does not live up to treaties it signs ( Examples, Hong Kong and UNCLOS) and is the ONLY country on earth that provides WRITTEN threats to other countries, look what it TRIED to do to Australia, issuing a threat that Australia MUST agree to 14 things, which the Australians told China to go shove it up their ass, or what China does in the South China sea, or the threats it has given to Canada and the threats it gave to the British and is the REASON the British signed up to AUKUS...China builds more nuclear submarines each year the ALL other countries combined, builds MORE nuclear war heads and delivery weapons systems each year than ALL other countries combined, has outright THREATENED to nuke other countries.
nah, Philippines the only one who will be left behind without a chinese high speed railway. lol
@@KO-jl3mg What is really disagreeable is the dishonour that China brings with agreements it does not fufilf with treaties it does not honour and threats and petualance it gives. It is NOT the Chinese people but the CCP which is a terrorist, criminal organisation.
Singapore, the smartest country, as well as the most successful one in ASEAN, has been playing smart geopolitical balancing games between super powers for decades, for the maximum benefit of the country, without being squeezed and sacrificed as cannon fodder by the US or China.
Filipino people always look at the success of Singapore with envy, and wonder why they can't replicate the best practices in their homeland and why their country is still deeply trapped in US colony mentality without a clear way out.
Truth hurts. A smart leader plays smart geopolitical games and invites American and Chinese companies to build factories in order to generate jobs and increase revenue, while a clueless leader easily gets emotional like a kid, often is played by geopolitical players as chess pieces, invites foreign military to build bases in order to generate tensions and increase the risk of conflicts, and sacrifices the country's development and trade.
Japan and S. Korea can sit down for negotiations and cooperations, despite of their long time disputes over the sovereignty of the Liancourt Rocks in the sea between them. That is political wisdom and diplomatic maturity on full display.
Other countries such as China and the Philippines can definitely learn from S. Korea and Japan to manage their difference on South China Sea, Taiwan, MILF or whatever, and develop their relationship.
Now Even the leaders of Vietnam and Malaysia are much smarter, more resilient and pragmatic than P-Noy and BBM. Now the Philippines is the only ASEAN member that foolishly puts itself into current awkward position of either losing face or breaking stability in ASEAN.
Soon, even Laos and Cambodia will become richer than the Philippines. The Philippines will compare better than only Myanmar.
China's 8 dash lines became 9 dash lines and soon 10 dash lines, really strategically relevant to ASEAN
used to be 11 when China was under the KMT, who lost the civil war and fled to taiwan.
do you know these lines were claimed by former Chinese government (now on Taiwan island), go and read history
10 dash lies...
@@raymondcyq faked history...
People need to have a look into history of CCP & what they do to people !
More obvious to see what the colonial powers did to Asia and China. Also the world.
The CCP reunified most of China, restored some level of decent governance, ended warlordism and proceeded to have China respected internationally. No more unequal treaties.
Of course this did not mean the CCP was ideal.
Therefore your point is noted. 😊😊
how was their own people treated ? even after communist was an official government, look at the culture revolution & tell me it was for good ?
@@kairosglobalrevival386 CCP just elevate CHINA to what is today one of the strongest if not the strongest country already in the world politically, militarily, scientifically and economically. They eradicated absolute poverty with a GDP per capita that is already approaching to high-income category. Average Chinese life expectancy was already higher than US. Meanwhile, your so called democratic countries like Philippines and India are still poor, corrupt and undeveloped. China's Xinjiang has higher GDP per capita than PH/India. Lol.
I’m sorry you have been so severely brainwashed.
Pure dishonesty
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Only one ASEAN country stands out. Tha't the Philippines.
It is told to stand out against China and also their legs are shaking, do you see it?
What the Hell! People of each nation have to be strong and resilient! Cause in the end when war broke out to each his own! All others are Geopolitics, and in Politics there’s no permanent enemies and friends only permanent self interest k!
Some Asean countries would turn blind eye to China's behaviour in return of investments. Morally downright
That's what ASEAN also did for Western investment
Palestine
What a bunch of liars! Singapore does not speak for the entire ASEAN!
Well maybe you can. Lol
Singapore is NOT pro Chinese, neither is any of ASEAN except maybe Myanmar ( a draconian, totalitarian dictatorship) and to some extent Thailand because it is basically a dictatorship as well BUT the ASEAN countries attempting to be democracies do NOT want China!
@@solonavi3928from this point? I might as well be!
@@bonkersblock u might but sadly you are not lol.
@@solonavi3928 that’s right! Because I’m not a flunky for China!
It is stupid to name a country superpower. A country cannot have superpower, superpower meaning it can change the course of fate in one second.
Rubbish study. 🤣
I pity those people who would actually believe with these study.... a lot will be in for a big disappointment
War in Gaza showed ASEAN US's true color
Ruthless suppression of freedom in Hong Kong, Ruthless invasion of South China Sea, Ruthless court system that wont let any one see how it arrives at a decision and orders death penalties for no reason, Ruthless in threatening so many other countries, Ruthless genocide committed on many peoples inside its borders. Ruthless discrimination against foreighners not allowing them OR THERE OWN people to cross provincial boundaries Ruthless suppression of any literature which cricises , THAT IS CHINA!
Chinese acting like another country
One sided chinese news
The US commitment to Israel is really hurting us in Indonesia and Malaysia, we have to really re-think this, this is an opportunity for China to deflect from the Uyghur genocide, and the treatment of Uyghurs by SE Asia in general.
What Netanyahu has done to our friendship with Israel is beyond criminal, this guy needs to be in jail.
No genocide of the Uyghurs in China go yourself and have a look like i did stop running anti China propaganda. What friendship with isnotreal the only reason the governments accept them is because they will just bully us and try to destroy the country.
Are you sure there is a Uyghur genocide? All of such claims come from the US or pro-US sources.
Oh yes, pro-US sources also love Israel.
US projection on other people? Deliberately creating a "Palestine" in China?
CNA PROPAGANDA 😂
And warmonger supporters are not happy😂
Hahahahahaha we know right?! Hahahahaha
Darth Vader profile is speaking 😂
Sad for ASEAN. 'The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.' Winston Churchill
Lol.. You mentioned that war criminal?
Yes believe in the words of the English who robbed all the blessings from other countries to share for themselves and left equal sharing of miseries in the colonies.