Actually enjoyed listening to the whole video! Lots of great points and feedback for multi gp and the track designers. Overall the hurdle was not used well in most of the tracks and that was my big complaint.
I really enjoy track theory. Its something almost nobody knows about, until they have designed enough crappy tracks to realize that every gate/flag/object needs to have purpose. Also when combined with flight line analysis, what gates are creating excessively jerky lines for no reason. Another aspect of track design that many people overlook, is the "learnability" of it. How easy is a track to "figure out" without having to just know where you are supposed to be going? Its one of my critiques with a lot of Grower tracks. They use a lot of deliciously complex flight lines and force you to think about how to achieve the best line (which is a good thing), but often involve a lot of non-intuitive flying. For instance leaving a gate, and then just launching around various flags out in the field before resuming ground traffic somewhere else. Just have to know where you are supposed to go, because you won't otherwise just figure it out by looking at it. Once you know it, obviously that isn't a problem anymore, but still, something to consider with track design!
Now I have a better understanding of why some gates felt weird and forced. Thank you for the insight you're sharing. And I agree 100% that blind voting would improve the objectiveness
Yeah it was nice to hear what I was feeling and the reasons explained why! I had no idea how to put any of this into words before this video! Will be looking out for all these concepts whenever I fly a new track.
Freeze, Hurdle police! Isn't it great that bitching video just made a complete turnaround and got on par with your other videos in terms of educational content? I'd really love to see points that you're talking about a part of an official guidelines for track builders.
Me opening this video- “please don’t start with my track” Ivan- proceeds to make an example of my track Well shit… 😂 To be fair I agree about the knife edge gate and I originally had the first one at a 45, shoulda just left it that way!
Да Иван, именно да! Как только сезон начинается, вы снимаете идеальное видео. Играю в них уже пару часов и не могу выбрать между Фастодоном, Леви или Нилом. Эти 3, по-моему, имеют лучший поток, во всяком случае, для меня. Не то, чтобы это имело значение, потому что я дерьмовый пилот!!! Держите видео, братан!😍😍😍😍😍
I agree with basically everything you said! I'm not a fan of the 5deg gates either, at least not for a GQ. One thing you didn't mention that I believe could cause a head ache is that some of the tracks have elements too close to the timing gate. Especially like the end of Hyper's track. The stripper pole (sounds better than orbit) is way too close to the timing gate and anyone that doesn't take it super close to the flag will likely trigger the timer. Of all the tracks, though. Ayyykayyy's was by far my favorite. In fact, it's really the only one I fly now after trying the rest of them. It's just the best overall track specifically for a GQ and a really fun one as well. Also, I really liked Grower's track but that back fast section just took me out of it. Not great for a GQ but would be fun on Freedom Spec for sure! Also, that TT track at the end of the video looked so fun!!
That first pole and then then knife into the orbit and potentially swinging by the timer or the last orbit and swinging the timer, are really the only critiques I had of Hyper's track. Either of those could get shifted to avoid that and still make the track viable.
Thx for this ;) i actually love the way of not taking everything too serious! Have fun ist the way! Btw whats the name of the song u r playing in the end?❤
The track naming thing is pretty huge - it's always somewhat of a popularity contest, and not enough people know that there are other amazing track designers. I still think the optimal Global Qualifier track would probably be a hybrid mix of some other tracks (this year, I'd remix the AK and Grower tracks)
I am not even close to judge any of them at all :) barely chances to survive after second turn on any of the race maps:) Cool video and great flying skills! Keep doing it!
Is the hurdle on Neils track going to have cross traffic on the hurdle?? seems like its used twice, and has potentiel for MAYHEM Tiny trainer track looks awesome...
Иван, как на танго выключить ADC фильтр ? у Вас в пресет в бетафлай написано это сделать. Сейчас как-то хуже работает связь с пресетом когда фиксирую 150 а не динамика как была. подозреваю что дело в фильтре.
Great track bitching from the track bitching expert. But I agree with your assessment and beatches. Carry on sir. And thanks for sharing your opinion. In the end Grower got my vote. But in the beginning I wasn't a fan of his track, didn't think I'd end up voting for it. But after about 30 mins flying on each track, I liked the feel of his the most.
Kind of a meta complaint, but I wish I could vote for my top3 favorite maps, instead of just a single vote. Single votes have the problem that, theoretically, I need to consider what other people might vote, in order to strategically place my own vote.
if we still talk about degrees, the gates are not difficult enough for a PRO Pilot. The question should be: How much do i have to cut down my props to get through the fckng gates??????
@@IvanEfimovLimon because they always happen to get blown by the wind so the quad is in the same plane as the flag, making the flag invisible to the pilot. And you can't miss what you can't see. Crash! Flags are cheap trash, a lazy excuse for an obstacle and should not be part of an FPV course. Sign me up for 3d flags.
@@TheZerocul его не отключили, просто код еще причесали для компаса, но использовать можно. Но он не обязателен. С тумблерами все ок, это надо проверить что твое радио настроено на 8+ каналов.
@@TheZerocul если подключен правильно и выбраны правильные опции то должен работать компас. Для тумблеров в разных rc линках есть разные настройки. Для ERLS, кроссфаера, ghost, frsky и пт- везде свои
Actually enjoyed listening to the whole video! Lots of great points and feedback for multi gp and the track designers. Overall the hurdle was not used well in most of the tracks and that was my big complaint.
Thanks for stopping by! Yes sir, I agree. Hurdle is an extra pait to build, and if we have to build it, should do it at least for something:)
Really great observations, you are now official track bitching expert.
I'm proud to wear that label lol.. holdon, or am I?
@@IvanEfimovLimon I'll print some challenge coins for you. Your face on one side and "Im a Bitcher" on the other side..LOl!
@@JDDupuy loool
Professional bitcher ))
I really enjoy track theory. Its something almost nobody knows about, until they have designed enough crappy tracks to realize that every gate/flag/object needs to have purpose. Also when combined with flight line analysis, what gates are creating excessively jerky lines for no reason. Another aspect of track design that many people overlook, is the "learnability" of it. How easy is a track to "figure out" without having to just know where you are supposed to be going? Its one of my critiques with a lot of Grower tracks. They use a lot of deliciously complex flight lines and force you to think about how to achieve the best line (which is a good thing), but often involve a lot of non-intuitive flying. For instance leaving a gate, and then just launching around various flags out in the field before resuming ground traffic somewhere else. Just have to know where you are supposed to go, because you won't otherwise just figure it out by looking at it. Once you know it, obviously that isn't a problem anymore, but still, something to consider with track design!
I agree about Growers track. It's a love-hate relationship with this aspect of his tracks. I do enjoy it mostly, but sometimes need something simpler.
Now I have a better understanding of why some gates felt weird and forced. Thank you for the insight you're sharing. And I agree 100% that blind voting would improve the objectiveness
Yeah it was nice to hear what I was feeling and the reasons explained why! I had no idea how to put any of this into words before this video! Will be looking out for all these concepts whenever I fly a new track.
This video should be under organizer resources section on multiGP
Freeze, Hurdle police!
Isn't it great that bitching video just made a complete turnaround and got on par with your other videos in terms of educational content? I'd really love to see points that you're talking about a part of an official guidelines for track builders.
I wish there were more in depth videos and focus on racing.
Oh wait
There is
Limon to the rescue
I'm still trying to get the damping grease of my hands...Thanks alot Limon! Mr Neil's track was my fav....I'm not at all a racer but I like the line.
Ahaha I still got it on one of my drones and cursing every time I need to change an arm or a motor )))
Me opening this video- “please don’t start with my track”
Ivan- proceeds to make an example of my track
Well shit… 😂
To be fair I agree about the knife edge gate and I originally had the first one at a 45, shoulda just left it that way!
Did I read your nickname correctly at least? Lol
Yup, rhymes with “mastodon” cuz I’m fast like an elephant- best in a straight line.
Hahahahah!@ that's so funny! Busting a gut!!
The last track in the gym was the best by far!😃
Thanks for this Ivan! I will choose with honor!
Да Иван, именно да! Как только сезон начинается, вы снимаете идеальное видео. Играю в них уже пару часов и не могу выбрать между Фастодоном, Леви или Нилом. Эти 3, по-моему, имеют лучший поток, во всяком случае, для меня. Не то, чтобы это имело значение, потому что я дерьмовый пилот!!! Держите видео, братан!😍😍😍😍😍
I agree with basically everything you said! I'm not a fan of the 5deg gates either, at least not for a GQ. One thing you didn't mention that I believe could cause a head ache is that some of the tracks have elements too close to the timing gate. Especially like the end of Hyper's track. The stripper pole (sounds better than orbit) is way too close to the timing gate and anyone that doesn't take it super close to the flag will likely trigger the timer. Of all the tracks, though. Ayyykayyy's was by far my favorite. In fact, it's really the only one I fly now after trying the rest of them. It's just the best overall track specifically for a GQ and a really fun one as well. Also, I really liked Grower's track but that back fast section just took me out of it. Not great for a GQ but would be fun on Freedom Spec for sure!
Also, that TT track at the end of the video looked so fun!!
Yes Sir! After I shared the video i realized I forgot to talk about the timing system position LOL So a very good point!
Altho i think on HYpers track that pole dancer can be moved a little away in the final version if it wins. So maybe not a big deal
That first pole and then then knife into the orbit and potentially swinging by the timer or the last orbit and swinging the timer, are really the only critiques I had of Hyper's track. Either of those could get shifted to avoid that and still make the track viable.
‘This gate has a 5 degree smell’ 😂 Love this analysis and will definitely be taking these points into consideration when designing tracks for MMRC
So fun :)
You're a smart, funny, lazy dude. My kind of guy! Your channel is gonna grow like the US Gov't. did in the 20th century.
Haha I like the comparison 😅 thanks for the kind words
Thx for this ;) i actually love the way of not taking everything too serious! Have fun ist the way!
Btw whats the name of the song u r playing in the end?❤
Thank you! The song name is: Enough - NEFFEX
That gate didn't want the smoke
i think the idea about not listing the track creators tracks until after voting is over is an amazing idea
Nice review buddy!
Am i right that you have your logo hidden somewhere on the track? ))
@@IvanEfimovLimon yes sir i did...😏
@@TboneFPV phaha damint now I need to find it
@@IvanEfimovLimon good hunting
Great video! Great TT flying at the end!
Thanks! TTs are so fun!
What...? No track from Persik?
I guess I will have to wait till he is not lazy. 😝
The track naming thing is pretty huge - it's always somewhat of a popularity contest, and not enough people know that there are other amazing track designers.
I still think the optimal Global Qualifier track would probably be a hybrid mix of some other tracks (this year, I'd remix the AK and Grower tracks)
sweeeet tiny trainer track!!! Good vid aswell.
I just got into racing, but now I feel I can make a track with more fundamental choices! No 5 degrees gates. Check XD.
Great work! i wish I designed a track to get ripped apart by ya. Were there only 8 submissions or were those selected from 100s?
I am not even close to judge any of them at all :) barely chances to survive after second turn on any of the race maps:) Cool video and great flying skills! Keep doing it!
Hope to see you at a qualifier man!
🤞
I just made my first track for practicing and now i have to change it, but great video overall
for practice anything is good! The more uncomfortable your track is the better lol
Great video! Not sure where my vote is going yet, but I am down to 3......
thanks! It's a tough one!
Love racing!! But I don't have a PC and can't afford to race.
But yeah anything is fun haha.
That was great 👍
Очень классный разбор. Спасибо!
О, спасибо, что смотрите :)
Is the hurdle on Neils track going to have cross traffic on the hurdle?? seems like its used twice, and has potentiel for MAYHEM
Tiny trainer track looks awesome...
Cross traffic midairs are so unlikely to happen, so no need to take them into account :)
Иван, как на танго выключить ADC фильтр ? у Вас в пресет в бетафлай написано это сделать. Сейчас как-то хуже работает связь с пресетом когда фиксирую 150 а не динамика как была. подозреваю что дело в фильтре.
Сори, не видел комент. В танго, вроде, они всегда выключены
Only 4K views? this should be used as the track designers bible.
At. 4:20 what software you use for the 2D model?
google presentations :)
I agree with blind-voting ....we should not know who designed the track
100%
How else can I punish the guy who keeps beating me?!
I would appreciate a full fly thru of each track.
Yes sir... They have that on multigp.com
Теперь хочу такое же привествие на аппе)
Growner yes..yess..
Ваня ты нужен на каждой нашей гонке. скучаем♥
Тоже скучаю!
Forget the race tracks! Give that sound on your radio!!!! 🤣
Loool
Great track bitching from the track bitching expert. But I agree with your assessment and beatches. Carry on sir. And thanks for sharing your opinion. In the end Grower got my vote. But in the beginning I wasn't a fan of his track, didn't think I'd end up voting for it. But after about 30 mins flying on each track, I liked the feel of his the most.
Yes sir, his track definitely stands out. Thanks for the kind comment as always!
Kind of a meta complaint, but I wish I could vote for my top3 favorite maps, instead of just a single vote. Single votes have the problem that, theoretically, I need to consider what other people might vote, in order to strategically place my own vote.
That's a good point!
There are 2 clear standouts in the comp and the others aren't even close in my opinion.. Clearly you voted for your boy. ;)
Nice
U voted for hyper!
Heheh ))
Nice insights there, great that you are sharing your bitching with others as well, I've certainly heard enough of it lol.
I think that's a historical moment when expert comments on this channel :))
Confirmed cat watching: meow
Lol , #tell me why Derricks tracks was a real built lol ,, to funny lemon. Good stuff ,, 5degree gate 😂😂pre turn the whole track lol
Hahah preturning the whole track ))
Thanks man ☺️
@@IvanEfimovLimon I needed a laugh this morning lol ,
if we still talk about degrees, the gates are not difficult enough for a PRO Pilot. The question should be: How much do i have to cut down my props to get through the fckng gates??????
With props off you have the smallest profile of the done ))
yall crazy
The voltage readout on the osd of that tiny trainer is sus
Special battery that doesn't discharge)
I think you voted for Grower’s track ;)
For me it’s between his, AK’s and Boner’s.
Hehe )) 😋 but good choice! :)
My favorite is BonerFPV! Thanks for your video! ;)
Lol at it stink of 5 degree a little bit
I'm not sure what I think about my two favorite tracks being made by "Boner" and "Grower"
Grower
Burn all 2d flags. Everything else is fair game.
2d flags? why
@@IvanEfimovLimon because they always happen to get blown by the wind so the quad is in the same plane as the flag, making the flag invisible to the pilot. And you can't miss what you can't see. Crash! Flags are cheap trash, a lazy excuse for an obstacle and should not be part of an FPV course.
Sign me up for 3d flags.
Будьте добры, объясните мне как подключить компас M8Q-5883 к Kakute H7, Betaflight 4.4?
Обычно просто TX к Rx, Rx к TX. Ну и земля к земле, +5v к +5v
@@TheZerocul на компас лучше забить пока. Бетафлайт тем и хорош, что нужен только gps для возврата домой.
@@TheZerocul ужа давно не так все в 4.4, а в 4.4.1 будет ещё лучше:
ruclips.net/video/umKfROrX0aE/видео.html
@@TheZerocul его не отключили, просто код еще причесали для компаса, но использовать можно. Но он не обязателен. С тумблерами все ок, это надо проверить что твое радио настроено на 8+ каналов.
@@TheZerocul если подключен правильно и выбраны правильные опции то должен работать компас. Для тумблеров в разных rc линках есть разные настройки. Для ERLS, кроссфаера, ghost, frsky и пт- везде свои