Ive never played fallen order but of course heard of cal and his slaughtering of animals, id be interested to know if you really need to kill those animals to progress in the story, or is it optional and actually its the player who has no remorse?
I find it interesting how Thrawn and Tarkin are polar opposites with their military strategy. Thrawn never underestimated the rebellion, with the Tie defenders he was building up the empires capabilities to maintain their military advantage and win the war traditionally. Meanwhile Tarkin wanted to win the war before it even began, he underestimated the rebellion because he didn’t see the Death Star as a military battle station, he saw it as a enforcement of his political doctrine. TLDR if Tarkin and Thrawn swapped opponents, so Thrawn took on the alliance and Tarkin took on the ghost. The rebellion would be very VERY dead and buried.
What are you talking about? Thrawn constantly let the Rebels go after they blew up several of his people and space ships. Then just said, "Ah, all according to my plan." Proceeding to lose in that plan at the end of the day. What a bastardization of another beloved character.
You are correct. A single star destroyer helmed by Thrawn with a full squadron of Defenders would have wiped the floor with the Rebels at Yavin, Luke or no Luke.
@@aytony4090 Were we watching the same show? Every single thing Thrawn did culminated in what would have been a total wipeout of the rebels in season 3 and again in season 4. The *only* reason he lost was because of interference by the Bendu and the space whales respectively - two factors he could not have possibly accounted for. That is pretty much how he has always been defeated in the few instances when he is defeated; when he is completely blindsided by something totally out of left field.
@ThatWTVGuy I want you to know the entire show didn't build up to that event. There were no hints as to what that master plan exactly was. It was hastily done to make the guy a real threat for once but it ultimately didn't matter because Ezra communed with whales or something. So that plot was another one episode then move on story. Then, there was a whole season of Thrawn constantly doing nothing about this specific rebel group just slapping his ass and running away. He's a moron who could have taken 5 seconds to go after them. There was literally a scene where after the Rebels blew up one of his things he was in a space station just staring at them and said for no one to go after them. They also did that dumb thing where the villain kills his own people to really look evil. They once again ruined another character and we'll never get the real Thrawn who came back with a whole fleet to take over after Palpatine died.
For Mason this Caravan of Garbage is close to the idea he had for a new podcast where he and James watch the last episode of a show they’ve never watched to see what context they can wring from it. They should really make that a thing and start off with Harsh Realm!
My absolute favorite thing in Star Wars is when dedicated fans and Hollywood writers have to come up with extensive lore justifications for stuff the George Lucas did in the 80s that was just random shit cause he felt like it
I also really love that two of the most prominent generals in the clone wars, Anakin and Grievous never meet in the clone wars show because of one line in episode 3.
The writers of Rebels dug deep into the old expanded universe for Thrawn, a blue Chiss imperial admiral who farmed New Republic ships from the shipyards of Sluis Van in order to supplment his fleet, an operation Thrawn referred to as the beginning of his ultimate victory over the New Republic thus an important turning point in the original story of Thrwan. Therefore the working title for Rebels was originally called Blue Harvest
Rebels was only good when characters from other SW content were there : Vader, Ahsoka, Maul, Thrawn, etc. The main cast however was really weak, or rather under developped. They focused too much on humor for the first two seasons. Should the tone and writing of the third season been there since season 1, the show would have been way different.
I love James asking Mason if it's true there's thousands of hours of bonus content on Big Sandwich, like Mason as a clue what's even happening in THIS episode, let alone what he recorded last week!
The content you guys create is so refreshing. I’m glad you guys don’t fall into that whole industry of endless speculation and unhinged theories of what is potentially going to happen in the MCU based on small details.
@@goldenfiberwheat238 weird thing to say considering rebels is a show mostly intended for kids (no bad thing) and andor is a show intended for adults. they are both very different looks at the same subject matter and both of them are better for their difference.
I wonder what Vader witnessed as Ashoka gets pulled away by Ezra. A visible portal? Just vanishing out of thin air? Disappearing head/shoulder to toe as she’s pulled across the invisible portal’s plane/event horizon? I’m sure if it was the first or third option he’d be really motivated to investigate that and find out about the dimension as a way back to Padme
It's also weird how Vader just fuck's off and disappears after that. Like, wasn't his mission to eliminate the entire Phoenix Squadron? He just """killed""" Ahsoka and automatically dips out after barely getting anything done
There is a scene in an earlier episode where Palpatine tells Vader to step away from the rebels and do what he commands. Sometimes Palps just tells Vader to step away from a mission just because he can and show him who the true master is.
@@steff-the-ghoul "Oh Palpatine just told him to, it's okay." But WHY? What else could possibly be more important than stopping the forming rebellion that ends up toppling the Empire? Vader's entire job is to kill anyone that's a threat to Palpatine's power, and the rebels were pretty clearly the biggest one .
Nick Mason Clone Wars Thought Summation: “I wholeheartedly love all things Star Wars! The Movies, the shows, the rides, the action figurines. If it’s Star Wars, I love it. And that’s my truth.” This is now cannon.
Star Wars Rebels is very underrated in the fandom. It has some of the best new characters added to Star Wars, and adds so much lore that surprised me. It's a very spiritual show and even shows how the Force connects to all living things. People who haven't given it a shot are missing out. Just because it's not CW doesn't mean it's bad.
@ShinGallon I hate when people act like animation is only for kids. Like there isn't mature subject matter shown. Star Wars was made for kids, and if they already liked the movies, I don't understand why they can't give Rebels a shot. It's honestly a very emotional and mature show that embraces everything great about Star Wars.
@@jowoman7799 Exactly. It's up there with Clone Wars S7, Andore/Rogue One and Mando S1 as some of the best SW content we've gotten in forever. I honestly love everything Filoni has brought to the franchise.
I sympathize with Mason in that I also feel nothing for this show and when people post long comments telling me to watch the whole thing I will definitely read them wink
Rex being Nik Sant makes sense, seeing as how he randomly pops up wearing Stormtrooper armor like Rex has been known to do. It would make even more sense that Rex was created TO BE Nik Sant.
Another bit of trivia, when they were designing Thrawn, they had an entire room filled with concept art of blue skinned people, and the process of picking the right design to go with was often called the "Blue Harvest", which coincidentally also happened to be the working title for the original Star Wars.
The Forces of Destiny shorts series actually does show that Rex, Chopper, and Hera were present on Endor and we get to see Hera and Han interact, which is a lot of fun!
Sabine Wren brought *graffiti* to the forefront - which I LOVED - but I feel like I'd seen it in the background of Star Wars before. Probably somewhere in the _Clone Wars_ or on Coruscant during the prequel trilogy. There's just been so much Star Wars background details before Rebels, so I'd be interested to know if anybody can spot any.
@@SimonBuchanNz oh yeah, the _Dark Forces_ series! Thanks! I know after _Rebels_ in 2016's _Rogue One_ there is 'blink & you'll miss it' graffiti on Ring of Kafrene (where we first meet Andor).
i have an answer for you regarding cinematic universe; David Choe (brilliant artist, look him up. there's a few short docos/interviews on him i quite liked) was approached & hired for the graffiti in The Mandalorian Season Two. If you remember that part from i believe the first scene of ep1 maybe? where they are walking to that boxing gym type place?
Spoiler Warning This video was awesome man, favourite joke is the stabbing fireball I actually laughed out loud at this. But my favourite scene of the finale was Gregors Death, its sad but so good, like the clones got so screwed over by Palpatine. They were child soldiers fighting a war they had not started, for a system that viewed them as property and then they were forced to murder their friends and generals. And then Gregor pays the ultimate price fighting the evil, they helped creating and says, that hes proud to have fought for something they believed in come on man, thats so good and I cried. But maybe I am the exception cuz its not even mentioned in this video :D
I was fully expecting a blue harvest bit to slither its way into the trivia portion and when it didn’t happen I thought to myself “wow, James showed such restraint, especially when talking about how Thrawn was blue” but in all honesty he probably just forgot that’s a bit that he does
If you’ve never seen Rebels and are a SW fan, it’s definitely worth the watch. Twilight of the apprentice (parts 1 and 2) are some of my favorite Star Wars. Also the showdown of Obi-Wan and Maul. Plus a lot more
I wish they knew that Thrawn in supposed to be a genius level military tactician. It's a pretty easy thing to remember. It worked in the books since there was plenty of people he was allowed to kill offscreen, but here even the most minor npc has plot armor so it made him seem completely inept.
When you claim Thrawn's order to bombard Lothal was nothing more than "standard Imperial procedure," I think you misunderstand how this showcases Thrawn's strategic abilities. In the season finale, the rebels' master plan was to trap all Imperial forces into one building and utilize them as hostages. When the rebels succeed in their plan, Thrawn orders the entire city to be bombarded, save for the one building Imperial troops were held hostage in. Thrawn used the rebels' plan against them by allowing them to "trap" his ground forces, thereby avoiding Imperial casualties when the city is bombarded. Not only were the rebels completely blindsided to this flaw in their master plan but Thrawn is successful in utilizing the bombardment to get Ezra to surrender.
Summarization of Maso’s thoughts on The Clone Wars Finale as requested: He thought it was good I’m pretty sure but I remember he also said something about the animation being kind of floaty sometimes or something like that. Disclaimer: I didn’t rewatch the video so I might be wrong but you should take my word as gospel anyway.
I think his comment on the floatiness of the animations is not from the series finale CoG but from an earlier one they did one they did on the Boba Fett episodes? Not sure. I think the animation in the CW finale are a lot more grounded than in earlier seasons.
How do you expect me to survive an entire week not knowing the next episode of my favorite RUclips series Caravan of Garbage? If only there was some sort of big sandwich
I absolutely hate the "Nik Sant is actually Rex" theory. You see the thing about Rex is, he's a clone. And the thing about clones is, they have Temuera Morrison's face. The person who played Nik Sant was just some old British guy who looks nothing like him
Same for me it just seems forced. I know if I give my character a beard and jungle fatigues I can say he’s that guy from ROTJ. If you want to create a backstory for “Nik Sant” fine but don’t dress your new character up and say it’s him
The Rebels Finale is great when you watch the series, and then the epilogue happened, and I still don't really care for it. How are Thrawn and Ezra alive? I guess Ezra was keeping the cabin pressure at optimal levels as they journeyed through Hyperspace, but then what have they been up to for the past 9-ish years? It could have just stayed nebulous, but Dave Filoni had to end it with Sabine looking for Ezra. And we also have that whole bit with Ahsoka making a promise to find Ezra, and I can only assume that she jumped out of the World Between Worlds at a later point than when she was pulled in because what has she been up to for the past 11ish years? Ugh. Gotta keep trying to square these circles. Star Wars is fun because it's all told out of order, but when you start to have explored areas of time touch, it gets weird. Oh, and The World Between Worlds is time travel, but it runs off paradoxes and time loops, you cannot just branch a new timeline. You do something that was not predestined and it's theorized that the whole universe gets destroyed. Since it works based off the Force, we can assume that the Force only lets those enter that it wants to let enter, which is why Palpatine cannot. He can sense what's going on, he knows where portals are, he can even attempt to contact anyone within, but he needs assistance to enter, which is why he's so eager to capture Ezra. But yeah, for anyone out there thinking they can just retcon the Sequels from happening, or think we can just reboot Star Wars with a whole new cast because of time travel via The World Between Worlds, that's not how it works. If it were to ever happen, there would be a rippling effect of retcons that would essentially push us back to when the Canon reboot button was hit back on April 25, 2014, sending us back to the Legends days. I'm not saying that Legends is bad, but you also lose all the good that has been done in the Disney era, meaning no Rebels, no final Season of Clone Wars (although most of it would be unchanged, still it's technically not Legends), no Bad Batch, no Mandalorian, no Rogue One, no Andor, and no Fallen Order and Survivor, and no [your favorite Star Wars story released in the past 9 years], and if you think going back to Legends is a better idea, that's fine, but you also get all the crappy stuff that came with it, too, it's not all gold either. It's lose/lose no matter how you slice it.
I don't think it's possible to watch every episode and not be seriously emotionally invested in the final season. IMO It's the best Star Wars property that has been released to date.
I finally started this show for the first time at the end of July in prep for Ahsoka this month, and I JUST finished the finale episode LAST NIGHT 😅 perfect timing boys!
@@goldenfiberwheat238 dude clone wars is one of my favourite shows, I’ve put off watching Rebels since it started cos I thought it looked like ass. It still does, but it’s part of the bigger story so needs must. Also newsflash, Star Wars has always been garbage, even the good ones. It’s space wizards and laser swords. Kenobi wasn’t as good as it could have been, but I still cried lmao. I’m just here for the ride, it’s okay to have fun
oh yes it's that time of the week and its the third time where I will comment on a Caravan of Garbage where I shall request the boys to cover Curse of the Black Pearl
Rebels is one of the greatest SW shows out there. At least during Disney's era for sure. The exploration of the Force alone makes it a great show but the characters and their development is amazing. They also did all this with a fraction of the budget they had for Clone Wars. Anyway, this show is probably my favorite SW show ever.
I remember hearing everyone hype Thrawn in this series before I watched it, and I was very disappointed when I finally got around to it. Very boring and typical villain who never wins. Nothing like the legends Thrawn or the new cannon novels portrayal.
Legends Trawn was exactly like current canon Thrawn: he always lost unles he was the protagonist with his name in big letters on the cover of the book.
@@Carabas72 Admittedly I wasn't keeping. score. That said, his victories in the books had consequences on a galactic level - obtaining the Dark Fleet, obtaining the means to crew it, obtaining a "jedi" to control them. He was on the losing side and yet pushing back. How does any of that compare to his wins in Rebels?
I agree with Mason about the art style. I was always put off a little bit by the character designs yet Clone Wars looks much better to me, and I can’t really figure out why. Great show none the less.
I definitely felt that way when I first started watching, but somewhere along the way it really grew on me. Now I find it charming (also thin lightsabers look so much cooler than neon chunky bars)
I like the art style but I wish that the show had a bigger budget. The same art style but crisper and more detailed with better animation could look amazing.
@@dustinakadustin I somewhat know what you mean but I feel like even if you disregard how the show looks it is still overrated every situation the ‘gang’ gets into it’s always solved by their big friend the space whale monsters or something stupid and kiddy, and do I need to mention the helicopter-sabers?
@@tomgarton9442is it OK to disregard 4 amazing seasons of character development and some of the best worldbuilding in new star wars canon because there are whales in space and helicopter lightsabers in one episode 🤨 people always focus on superficial and unimportant things about rebels and never the love and care put into the characters. And never once do they escape because of something "kiddy"
@@conorb7094 r u brain dead u lit described the last episode and there is definitely multiple helicopter instances😂 and the empires always getting foiled by zeb the crazy alien or chopper the funny droid hehe u know I’m right lol
Honestly I was fine with everything they did with Thrawn to me it made completely sense why he kept letting the Ghost crew get away. As his goal was to take out the entire rebel alliance and not just some fraction of it so him letting them go over and over again allowed him to study how they fought while also learning where the main rebel base was. And any time he tried to actually take them down he had the uppper hand until something he couldn't account for came out of nowhere. Like he had like the entire rebel fleet dead to rights. But his plan got screwed over because one of the other captains who hated how much praise Thrawn got due to hating that he was an alien as most imperials are bigots like that. So instead of him following the orders of Thrawn he decided to ignore them and break away from the blockade all so he could win the battle himself and take the glory. But he fucked up ruined the blockade and allowed all but one ship to escape. Then when he had the rebel base tracked down he again had them dead to rights capturing them only for Bendu to show up and rain down death from above. And no way he could account of this giant Force Moose type thing. And then again in the finally had them dead to rights again only for force space whales to show up.
With Rebels, Dave Filoni continued his tradition of taking popular EU characters from other creators and adapting them into his cartoon shows. The most notable example here is Thrawn, a plan long in the works and codenamed Operation: Blue Harvest.
Originally, Dave Filoni proposed to do a series _without_ Force users, and focus on fighter pilots. Eventually they went with the idea of focusing on a group of heroes that were always on the run while trying to help others, like The A-Team. In some versions, Kanan had a robot arm, Zeb was first conceived as an Ithorian (the Hammerhead alien) then a large blue Snivvian (Snaggletooth) before finally basing him on some of the original Ralph McQuarrie Wookiee concept art. It was also decided early on to focus a large part of the narrative on the Empire’s plot to capture Force-sensitives and turn them into imperial agents (code name: Project Harvester), which would later be touched upon both in the video game “Fallen Order” and the Disney+ “Obi-Wan” series. This ultimately led to some members of the production team jokingly referring to show as “Blue Harvest” which was also coincidentally the working title for the 1977 film Star Wars.
I clearly remember James saying he loved The Clone Wars especially the early version of Ahsoka. Also his favorite arc was the one with the droids and the little frog man
The art design shift that he found upsetting was the Clone Wars series has more angular square-shaped heads and the Rebels series rounded out the heads to be oval-shaped with smooth edges. It was the first thing I noticed when they played the clips from the 2 shows and I feel the same way.
Genuinely shocked there wasn’t a Blue Harvest joke, considering the obvious inclusion of Thrawn.
I think it's because it's already Star Wars, so the sillyness of the gag wouldn't land as well
Didn't they ended this gag.
@@mrinalrohilla2654 not in the comments
First the Guy Who Shouts Rodney, and now this? Is nothing sacred??
You and me both, talk about a missed oportunity.
Cal Kestis not murdering animals in live action will have the same whiplash energy like that new 'Craven: The Animal Lover' movie.
😂
You mean Morbius 2?
Tbf those animals before were asking for it
Ive never played fallen order but of course heard of cal and his slaughtering of animals, id be interested to know if you really need to kill those animals to progress in the story, or is it optional and actually its the player who has no remorse?
Kraken is a hunter, he seeks the largest most dangerous animals, he's not a poacher. He also actually physically fights lions hand to pay
I was already laughing at Mason's imaginary texts from Luke and Leia and when it cut to Ezra crying it broke me
Who's to say that's NOT Cate Blanchett from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Maybe she was transported to the Empire by the interdimensional beings.
Or her distant cousin, perhaps
I find it interesting how Thrawn and Tarkin are polar opposites with their military strategy. Thrawn never underestimated the rebellion, with the Tie defenders he was building up the empires capabilities to maintain their military advantage and win the war traditionally. Meanwhile Tarkin wanted to win the war before it even began, he underestimated the rebellion because he didn’t see the Death Star as a military battle station, he saw it as a enforcement of his political doctrine.
TLDR if Tarkin and Thrawn swapped opponents, so Thrawn took on the alliance and Tarkin took on the ghost. The rebellion would be very VERY dead and buried.
The only thing that Thrawn underestimated was the force and that was pretty much because he didn’t understand it.
What are you talking about? Thrawn constantly let the Rebels go after they blew up several of his people and space ships. Then just said, "Ah, all according to my plan." Proceeding to lose in that plan at the end of the day.
What a bastardization of another beloved character.
You are correct. A single star destroyer helmed by Thrawn with a full squadron of Defenders would have wiped the floor with the Rebels at Yavin, Luke or no Luke.
@@aytony4090 Were we watching the same show? Every single thing Thrawn did culminated in what would have been a total wipeout of the rebels in season 3 and again in season 4. The *only* reason he lost was because of interference by the Bendu and the space whales respectively - two factors he could not have possibly accounted for. That is pretty much how he has always been defeated in the few instances when he is defeated; when he is completely blindsided by something totally out of left field.
@ThatWTVGuy I want you to know the entire show didn't build up to that event. There were no hints as to what that master plan exactly was. It was hastily done to make the guy a real threat for once but it ultimately didn't matter because Ezra communed with whales or something.
So that plot was another one episode then move on story.
Then, there was a whole season of Thrawn constantly doing nothing about this specific rebel group just slapping his ass and running away. He's a moron who could have taken 5 seconds to go after them. There was literally a scene where after the Rebels blew up one of his things he was in a space station just staring at them and said for no one to go after them.
They also did that dumb thing where the villain kills his own people to really look evil.
They once again ruined another character and we'll never get the real Thrawn who came back with a whole fleet to take over after Palpatine died.
Maso's absolute irreverence for Star Wars will never get old
For Mason this Caravan of Garbage is close to the idea he had for a new podcast where he and James watch the last episode of a show they’ve never watched to see what context they can wring from it. They should really make that a thing and start off with Harsh Realm!
Yes please
Masons never watched game of thrones so we could see how that plays out
@@RollMeAFat1 he wishes he never had to watch GoT haha
@@frownline1
At least this way he only has to watch one episode.
I'm on board for this!
@@eastvandb what a last episode it was too, ripe for a savage review.
Lars Mikkelsen as Thrawn is such a great casting
My absolute favorite thing in Star Wars is when dedicated fans and Hollywood writers have to come up with extensive lore justifications for stuff the George Lucas did in the 80s that was just random shit cause he felt like it
I also really love that two of the most prominent generals in the clone wars, Anakin and Grievous never meet in the clone wars show because of one line in episode 3.
@@tael64true but to be fair, when did Grant and Lee meet?
Glad James watched all of Rebels and enjoyed it! Really underrated so glad Ahsoka (and Kenobi to a point) are putting it back into the spotlight
Why is a big ball of fire walking into someone’s room and stabbing them not the most far fetched idea out of Star Wars I’ve ever heard😂😂😂
The writers of Rebels dug deep into the old expanded universe for Thrawn, a blue Chiss imperial admiral who farmed New Republic ships from the shipyards of Sluis Van in order to supplment his fleet, an operation Thrawn referred to as the beginning of his ultimate victory over the New Republic thus an important turning point in the original story of Thrwan. Therefore the working title for Rebels was originally called Blue Harvest
Boooo
Hate
Alright, that deserves a like.
Chiss gender
You son of a bitch, literally kept me going until the last sentence
I can not describe how furious I am that there’s no hint at the end. Furious. Great video.
Rebels has some of my favourite Star Wars moments.
"Tell me... is he the chosen one?"
Amazing.
@@SaitoGray 🥺😭
too bad it made up 10% of the show 90% is pure dogshit garbage still not as bad as BoBF
@@jordnchn7907 fair call fair call
Rebels was only good when characters from other SW content were there : Vader, Ahsoka, Maul, Thrawn, etc. The main cast however was really weak, or rather under developped. They focused too much on humor for the first two seasons. Should the tone and writing of the third season been there since season 1, the show would have been way different.
I love James asking Mason if it's true there's thousands of hours of bonus content on Big Sandwich, like Mason as a clue what's even happening in THIS episode, let alone what he recorded last week!
Didn’t know you were a Mr. Sunday fan. Love your art!
@@xcurbsnipex Thank you! I've been a fan of the pod since before i got back into art, hell they are a big reason i started doing what i'm doing now!
The content you guys create is so refreshing. I’m glad you guys don’t fall into that whole industry of endless speculation and unhinged theories of what is potentially going to happen in the MCU based on small details.
For a long time I felt that Rebels was the best thing Disney had done with the franchise since taking it over. Then Andor blew my tiny little mind.
before that came the Clone Wars finale, that was also excellent.
Same here
same
Andor is what rebels should’ve been
@@goldenfiberwheat238 weird thing to say considering rebels is a show mostly intended for kids (no bad thing) and andor is a show intended for adults. they are both very different looks at the same subject matter and both of them are better for their difference.
If I took nothing else from this it's a newfound but deeply-held conviction that Dave Filoni is absolutely covered in wolf tattoos.
I wonder what Vader witnessed as Ashoka gets pulled away by Ezra.
A visible portal?
Just vanishing out of thin air?
Disappearing head/shoulder to toe as she’s pulled across the invisible portal’s plane/event horizon?
I’m sure if it was the first or third option he’d be really motivated to investigate that and find out about the dimension as a way back to Padme
It's also weird how Vader just fuck's off and disappears after that. Like, wasn't his mission to eliminate the entire Phoenix Squadron? He just """killed""" Ahsoka and automatically dips out after barely getting anything done
I can imagine if Palps was already aware of the portal (he was) he would've talkd vader to drop it.
There is a scene in an earlier episode where Palpatine tells Vader to step away from the rebels and do what he commands. Sometimes Palps just tells Vader to step away from a mission just because he can and show him who the true master is.
@@steff-the-ghoul "Oh Palpatine just told him to, it's okay." But WHY? What else could possibly be more important than stopping the forming rebellion that ends up toppling the Empire? Vader's entire job is to kill anyone that's a threat to Palpatine's power, and the rebels were pretty clearly the biggest one .
Nick Mason Clone Wars Thought Summation: “I wholeheartedly love all things Star Wars! The Movies, the shows, the rides, the action figurines. If it’s Star Wars, I love it. And that’s my truth.” This is now cannon.
Star Wars Rebels is very underrated in the fandom. It has some of the best new characters added to Star Wars, and adds so much lore that surprised me. It's a very spiritual show and even shows how the Force connects to all living things.
People who haven't given it a shot are missing out. Just because it's not CW doesn't mean it's bad.
I know people who won't watch it just because it's animated and I'm like "What, you think you're too 'grown up' for STAR WARS?"
@ShinGallon I hate when people act like animation is only for kids. Like there isn't mature subject matter shown. Star Wars was made for kids, and if they already liked the movies, I don't understand why they can't give Rebels a shot. It's honestly a very emotional and mature show that embraces everything great about Star Wars.
@@jowoman7799 Exactly. It's up there with Clone Wars S7, Andore/Rogue One and Mando S1 as some of the best SW content we've gotten in forever. I honestly love everything Filoni has brought to the franchise.
What if I don't like The Clone Wars
@@davindeptuck7905 I'm sorry you don't allow joy into your life.
The editing on this one was top-tier!
2:36 James' response is incredible
I sympathize with Mason in that I also feel nothing for this show and when people post long comments telling me to watch the whole thing I will definitely read them wink
Rex being Nik Sant makes sense, seeing as how he randomly pops up wearing Stormtrooper armor like Rex has been known to do. It would make even more sense that Rex was created TO BE Nik Sant.
Rebels was the best. Glad its getting all the love now
The fire stabbing had me pause the video for a good 5-10 minutes laughing so hard I cried - thank you
Christ almighty, get some help.
I clearly remember Mason saying about the Clone Wars finally: "What a jolly good time mate. Hiyaah." This is a direct quote.
Just letting the editors know, I noticed the absence of The Thing when James said, "here's the thing" at the end.
Another bit of trivia, when they were designing Thrawn, they had an entire room filled with concept art of blue skinned people, and the process of picking the right design to go with was often called the "Blue Harvest", which coincidentally also happened to be the working title for the original Star Wars.
I can't wait to see Grandad Miral Thron in live action
The Forces of Destiny shorts series actually does show that Rex, Chopper, and Hera were present on Endor and we get to see Hera and Han interact, which is a lot of fun!
Sabine Wren brought *graffiti* to the forefront - which I LOVED - but I feel like I'd seen it in the background of Star Wars before. Probably somewhere in the _Clone Wars_ or on Coruscant during the prequel trilogy. There's just been so much Star Wars background details before Rebels, so I'd be interested to know if anybody can spot any.
I immediately thought of the immediate and extravagant graffiti in Dark Forces: Jedi Knight, but nothing comes to mind from the shows and movies...
@@SimonBuchanNz oh yeah, the _Dark Forces_ series! Thanks! I know after _Rebels_ in 2016's _Rogue One_ there is 'blink & you'll miss it' graffiti on Ring of Kafrene (where we first meet Andor).
I feel like there's graffiti in the Bounty Hunter game from 2002 but I'm not sure.
i have an answer for you regarding cinematic universe; David Choe (brilliant artist, look him up. there's a few short docos/interviews on him i quite liked) was approached & hired for the graffiti in The Mandalorian Season Two. If you remember that part from i believe the first scene of ep1 maybe? where they are walking to that boxing gym type place?
Thrawn is my favorite, I have all the audiobooks, he is a really cool character and can’t wait for the live action!
Still to this day I cry watching Kanan sacrifice’s 😢
So much work goes into editing this! Love you guys
The space whales stealing Thrawn was a Blue Harvest
This comment is underrated.
@QuixoteX it definitely deserved better
That episode 1 dvd menu screen awakened some memories
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This video was awesome man, favourite joke is the stabbing fireball I actually laughed out loud at this.
But my favourite scene of the finale was Gregors Death, its sad but so good, like the clones got so screwed over by Palpatine. They were child soldiers fighting a war they had not started, for a system that viewed them as property and then they were forced to murder their friends and generals. And then Gregor pays the ultimate price fighting the evil, they helped creating and says, that hes proud to have fought for something they believed in come on man, thats so good and I cried. But maybe I am the exception cuz its not even mentioned in this video :D
Showing a clip of Steve Harvey while talking about gorillas is absolutely wild
I admire the restraint to not bring back blue harvest with a connection to Thrawn.
I was fully expecting a blue harvest bit to slither its way into the trivia portion and when it didn’t happen I thought to myself “wow, James showed such restraint, especially when talking about how Thrawn was blue” but in all honesty he probably just forgot that’s a bit that he does
If you’ve never seen Rebels and are a SW fan, it’s definitely worth the watch. Twilight of the apprentice (parts 1 and 2) are some of my favorite Star Wars. Also the showdown of Obi-Wan and Maul. Plus a lot more
Thrawn "I'd have gotten away with it too...if not for you meddling kids!"
I wish they knew that Thrawn in supposed to be a genius level military tactician. It's a pretty easy thing to remember.
It worked in the books since there was plenty of people he was allowed to kill offscreen, but here even the most minor npc has plot armor so it made him seem completely inept.
Damn it Mason! Because of you I have no idea what COG is going to be next week!
"We got you nothing and that's from both of us." I'm dying over here 🤣😂🤣
James saying “every face a different shade” made me laugh way too hard
When you claim Thrawn's order to bombard Lothal was nothing more than "standard Imperial procedure," I think you misunderstand how this showcases Thrawn's strategic abilities. In the season finale, the rebels' master plan was to trap all Imperial forces into one building and utilize them as hostages. When the rebels succeed in their plan, Thrawn orders the entire city to be bombarded, save for the one building Imperial troops were held hostage in. Thrawn used the rebels' plan against them by allowing them to "trap" his ground forces, thereby avoiding Imperial casualties when the city is bombarded. Not only were the rebels completely blindsided to this flaw in their master plan but Thrawn is successful in utilizing the bombardment to get Ezra to surrender.
That’s cool. Counter point: plot armored space whales
Summarization of Maso’s thoughts on The Clone Wars Finale as requested: He thought it was good I’m pretty sure but I remember he also said something about the animation being kind of floaty sometimes or something like that.
Disclaimer: I didn’t rewatch the video so I might be wrong but you should take my word as gospel anyway.
I think his comment on the floatiness of the animations is not from the series finale CoG but from an earlier one they did one they did on the Boba Fett episodes? Not sure.
I think the animation in the CW finale are a lot more grounded than in earlier seasons.
How do you expect me to survive an entire week not knowing the next episode of my favorite RUclips series Caravan of Garbage? If only there was some sort of big sandwich
Thrawn in live action… this is where the fun begins
Mason was on fire this episode, but I think it's because he secretly wanted to talk about anything else but Star Wars
I'm taking a great risk here of YT thinking I want to watch videos about Star Wars. I love this channel so much it's worth it.
LOL, the ball of fire shanking was the SW content i never knew I needed.
Rebels is AMAZING!!!
The World Between Worlds is a physical manifestation of Wookiepedia.
Just got done watching this so this has come out at a perfect time for me!
I absolutely hate the "Nik Sant is actually Rex" theory. You see the thing about Rex is, he's a clone. And the thing about clones is, they have Temuera Morrison's face. The person who played Nik Sant was just some old British guy who looks nothing like him
Same for me it just seems forced. I know if I give my character a beard and jungle fatigues I can say he’s that guy from ROTJ. If you want to create a backstory for “Nik Sant” fine but don’t dress your new character up and say it’s him
Can't wait For Ahsoka... Rebels was a top-tier show by itself
19:56 "I'll never tell" So, in honor of Subspace Rhapsody, they are doing Once More With Feeling.
Mason might be the most disinterested Star Wars fan of us all. 🤣
The Rebels Finale is great when you watch the series, and then the epilogue happened, and I still don't really care for it. How are Thrawn and Ezra alive? I guess Ezra was keeping the cabin pressure at optimal levels as they journeyed through Hyperspace, but then what have they been up to for the past 9-ish years? It could have just stayed nebulous, but Dave Filoni had to end it with Sabine looking for Ezra. And we also have that whole bit with Ahsoka making a promise to find Ezra, and I can only assume that she jumped out of the World Between Worlds at a later point than when she was pulled in because what has she been up to for the past 11ish years? Ugh. Gotta keep trying to square these circles. Star Wars is fun because it's all told out of order, but when you start to have explored areas of time touch, it gets weird.
Oh, and The World Between Worlds is time travel, but it runs off paradoxes and time loops, you cannot just branch a new timeline. You do something that was not predestined and it's theorized that the whole universe gets destroyed. Since it works based off the Force, we can assume that the Force only lets those enter that it wants to let enter, which is why Palpatine cannot. He can sense what's going on, he knows where portals are, he can even attempt to contact anyone within, but he needs assistance to enter, which is why he's so eager to capture Ezra. But yeah, for anyone out there thinking they can just retcon the Sequels from happening, or think we can just reboot Star Wars with a whole new cast because of time travel via The World Between Worlds, that's not how it works. If it were to ever happen, there would be a rippling effect of retcons that would essentially push us back to when the Canon reboot button was hit back on April 25, 2014, sending us back to the Legends days. I'm not saying that Legends is bad, but you also lose all the good that has been done in the Disney era, meaning no Rebels, no final Season of Clone Wars (although most of it would be unchanged, still it's technically not Legends), no Bad Batch, no Mandalorian, no Rogue One, no Andor, and no Fallen Order and Survivor, and no [your favorite Star Wars story released in the past 9 years], and if you think going back to Legends is a better idea, that's fine, but you also get all the crappy stuff that came with it, too, it's not all gold either. It's lose/lose no matter how you slice it.
Guys the next Caravan of Garbage series is Robocop, James said it on suggestible this week (his less successful podcast)
Yall are amazing, this video editing killed me.
WOW, perfect editing when James said "slobs and snobs" they showed Mace getting a KNOB.
I don't think it's possible to watch every episode and not be seriously emotionally invested in the final season. IMO It's the best Star Wars property that has been released to date.
I finally started this show for the first time at the end of July in prep for Ahsoka this month, and I JUST finished the finale episode LAST NIGHT 😅 perfect timing boys!
You realize ahsoka is gonna be garbage right? Everything since the siege of mandolore has been aside from andor. You need to stop consooming
@@goldenfiberwheat238 dude clone wars is one of my favourite shows, I’ve put off watching Rebels since it started cos I thought it looked like ass. It still does, but it’s part of the bigger story so needs must.
Also newsflash, Star Wars has always been garbage, even the good ones. It’s space wizards and laser swords.
Kenobi wasn’t as good as it could have been, but I still cried lmao. I’m just here for the ride, it’s okay to have fun
@@Daniel-ed2cg HE CRIED WATCHING A MEDIOCRE STAR WARS SHOW THAT RUINS THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY PFFFFTTT HAHAHAHA
@@goldenfiberwheat238prequels are better x
“Cate Blanchett in crystal skull lookin ass…” 😂😂😂😂
Mr Sunday Movies giving a shoutout to Innuendo Studios just made my whole week
More animated Star Wars content? I FEEL it boys, the Umbara arc is coming soon.
This was just sort of a chat about Rebels, and it was great.
9:52 I was going to say the magic realm that allows me access to various important points in the Star Wars universe is called "Disney+" 🤣
They tried that in She Hulk... didn't work out did it. 😅 (I actually really liked that sequence) 😂
oh yes it's that time of the week
and its the third time where I will comment on a Caravan of Garbage where I shall request the boys to cover Curse of the Black Pearl
Rebels is one of the greatest SW shows out there. At least during Disney's era for sure. The exploration of the Force alone makes it a great show but the characters and their development is amazing. They also did all this with a fraction of the budget they had for Clone Wars. Anyway, this show is probably my favorite SW show ever.
18:52 To sumarise Maso's thoughts on The Clone Wars finale, he was a big fan of Jesse's head tattoo. I think that was it.
I remember hearing everyone hype Thrawn in this series before I watched it, and I was very disappointed when I finally got around to it. Very boring and typical villain who never wins. Nothing like the legends Thrawn or the new cannon novels portrayal.
Legends Trawn was exactly like current canon Thrawn: he always lost unles he was the protagonist with his name in big letters on the cover of the book.
@@Carabas72 There's a big difference between losing over the course of three novels and losing on a weekly basis.
@@sweetchristmas101
Thrawn generally won when he was in Rebels about as much as he did in Zahn's original Thrawn trilogy.
@@Carabas72 Admittedly I wasn't keeping. score. That said, his victories in the books had consequences on a galactic level - obtaining the Dark Fleet, obtaining the means to crew it, obtaining a "jedi" to control them. He was on the losing side and yet pushing back. How does any of that compare to his wins in Rebels?
@@Carabas72 I am not aware of any legends books with Thrawn in the title.
I'm a big fan of Rebels and this was hilarious, nice one guys
They didn't give us a hint and told us to figure it out. That means only one thing time to pop in my copy of snake eyes.
I almost took back my like for the lack of the temporary return of the Blueharvest bit.
This show is amazing. The Star Wars you know and love is there a 100%. You should really watch it Mason!
There is so much stupid paint-by-numbers filler in rebels.
I agree with Mason about the art style. I was always put off a little bit by the character designs yet Clone Wars looks much better to me, and I can’t really figure out why. Great show none the less.
everything looks to skiny for me
I definitely felt that way when I first started watching, but somewhere along the way it really grew on me. Now I find it charming (also thin lightsabers look so much cooler than neon chunky bars)
they should make the lightsaber handles thiner as well
instead you have a thin beam coming out of a wide emiter which looks wrong@@thatginger6839
One thing I hate about Rebels' art style is how all the fine details and buttons on background objects look like they've been drawn on with a crayon
The whole show looks like crap lol idk how people take it seriously it’s ridiculously kiddy dog sh*t
I like the art style but I wish that the show had a bigger budget. The same art style but crisper and more detailed with better animation could look amazing.
@@dustinakadustin I somewhat know what you mean but I feel like even if you disregard how the show looks it is still overrated every situation the ‘gang’ gets into it’s always solved by their big friend the space whale monsters or something stupid and kiddy, and do I need to mention the helicopter-sabers?
@@tomgarton9442is it OK to disregard 4 amazing seasons of character development and some of the best worldbuilding in new star wars canon because there are whales in space and helicopter lightsabers in one episode 🤨 people always focus on superficial and unimportant things about rebels and never the love and care put into the characters. And never once do they escape because of something "kiddy"
@@conorb7094 r u brain dead u lit described the last episode and there is definitely multiple helicopter instances😂 and the empires always getting foiled by zeb the crazy alien or chopper the funny droid hehe u know I’m right lol
of course the one time Harrison Ford cared about Star Wars lore it was about how to fly a plane
It’s been over a year since you were supposed to do the Kenobi episode of this show! I am outraged and will not be leaving a like on this video!
Honestly I was fine with everything they did with Thrawn to me it made completely sense why he kept letting the Ghost crew get away. As his goal was to take out the entire rebel alliance and not just some fraction of it so him letting them go over and over again allowed him to study how they fought while also learning where the main rebel base was. And any time he tried to actually take them down he had the uppper hand until something he couldn't account for came out of nowhere. Like he had like the entire rebel fleet dead to rights. But his plan got screwed over because one of the other captains who hated how much praise Thrawn got due to hating that he was an alien as most imperials are bigots like that. So instead of him following the orders of Thrawn he decided to ignore them and break away from the blockade all so he could win the battle himself and take the glory. But he fucked up ruined the blockade and allowed all but one ship to escape. Then when he had the rebel base tracked down he again had them dead to rights capturing them only for Bendu to show up and rain down death from above. And no way he could account of this giant Force Moose type thing. And then again in the finally had them dead to rights again only for force space whales to show up.
Hearing mason say "lookin ass" makes my southern heart swell
With Rebels, Dave Filoni continued his tradition of taking popular EU characters from other creators and adapting them into his cartoon shows. The most notable example here is Thrawn, a plan long in the works and codenamed Operation: Blue Harvest.
I like this Star Wars because of how Star Wars it is too!
Rebels was an awesome show.
I started collecting dvd boxsets this year just for the uncensored commentaries
2:09 "Don't worry! We'll just only kill off the neurodiverse-coded character! Nobody cares about *him* right?"
Loved the editing in this one!
Lmao "Kate Blanchett in Crystal Skull," and then seeing the animated character wins this one.
Guy that yells Rodney? Guy that yells Rodney? Gut that yells Rodney? GUY THAT YELLS RODNEEEEEEEYYY GWAHHHHH.
miss him so much😭
Melch was a DAMN hero.
Originally, Dave Filoni proposed to do a series _without_ Force users, and focus on fighter pilots. Eventually they went with the idea of focusing on a group of heroes that were always on the run while trying to help others, like The A-Team.
In some versions, Kanan had a robot arm, Zeb was first conceived as an Ithorian (the Hammerhead alien) then a large blue Snivvian (Snaggletooth) before finally basing him on some of the original Ralph McQuarrie Wookiee concept art.
It was also decided early on to focus a large part of the narrative on the Empire’s plot to capture Force-sensitives and turn them into imperial agents (code name: Project Harvester), which would later be touched upon both in the video game “Fallen Order” and the Disney+ “Obi-Wan” series.
This ultimately led to some members of the production team jokingly referring to show as “Blue Harvest” which was also coincidentally the working title for the 1977 film Star Wars.
I clearly remember James saying he loved The Clone Wars especially the early version of Ahsoka. Also his favorite arc was the one with the droids and the little frog man
The art design shift that he found upsetting was the Clone Wars series has more angular square-shaped heads and the Rebels series rounded out the heads to be oval-shaped with smooth edges. It was the first thing I noticed when they played the clips from the 2 shows and I feel the same way.
How the hell can a star wars caravan of garbage doesn't have a single blue harvest joke. This shows that James have great restraints