The idea behind Grievous for Tartakovsky was that he was such a genius at playing mind games and so aggressive during combat that Jedi wouldn't have much time to think while fighting and I absolutely loved it. When he makes the mistake of getting cocky against Windu who isn't so easily intimidated it bites him in the ass.
@@mike-mz6yz I'm not sure if it was Lucas vision for him, but I feel like Tartakovsky's series is the only series that ever really delivers on that vision for the character.
@user-mo6yl6jr5l there's one episode in this series that actually shows Dooku training Grievous, and that sort of full on aggression and fear tactics is what Dooku teaches Grievous.
@@DreamStepper According to Tartakovsky Lucas was kinda confused on if Grievous was an effective killing machine or a mustache twirling villain who constantly had to run after being beaten so the part where we see Dooku training him was meant to justify how he could be both and the part with Windu cruses his chest was because after they were mostly done they were told he had a cough in the movies and to show how he got it.
The Italian aliens section was oddly deep. The men went to war, war made them into monsters. When they returned home, the women feared them now, and the men were ashamed, but the women loved them anyways. Not only is that a metaphor for real life veterans, but it also parallels Anakin and Padme as he gradually becomes worse and worse and she doesn't know what to do.
Yeah I really enjoyed that arc. Anakin helps become their savior but by using the dark side. The mutated natives try to do the right thing and gain their freedom w his help, and their families come to accept them later
Jango not being Mandalorian was a line given in The Clone Wars animated series by a character that despised him. It was meant as an insult and was that character's opinion.
Except after that, it was outright stated by Lucasfilm that it was George's decision to not make him a mando, and numerous canon reference guides also stated Jango had no affiliation with them. Disney later retconned George when The Mandalorian revealed the Fett codex. Many people wrongly assume George's word is absolute in the Disney era, but it has been changed several times and for a much better outcome.
@@thewarner2139 It's ridiculous to think about because the whole reason we even care about the Mandalorians is because of Boba and Jango. They're what made them a thing in the first place! There would be no Mandalorians without the Fetts.
@@Mitchisable I mean in a "concept" sort of case. Concept wise, the first Mandalorians we see in the franchise are the Fetts. Chronological wise of course the KOTOR ones are legit. I just find it ironic that some old politician didn't consider Jango a Mandalorian when the whole culture revolves around a warrior ideology. It's like an 80 year old man claiming that kids aren't hip. I'm of course referring to the one guy from the Clone Wars series.
Absolute classic. *THE* Clone Wars is still awesome, but this for me is the absolute greatest thing to come out of Star Wars in animated form. Real shame we haven’t seen General Grievous be anywhere *_NEAR_* as cool as this in the twenty years since this show.
For further iteration on this Grievous (one of my favorite characters), the droids, Mace Windu and the fucking clones get so much development in this! Imagine that! These were released originally back in the day on Cartoon Network and were shorts. They are 3-15 mins long each and aired as quick star wars bites. It blew my fucking mind; beautiful, cool, minimal words and visual story telling. Even Roron Corobb has some god tier cool shit and makes you feel the Star Wars universe is broad and diverse! I was expecting something like this with Book of Boba Fett but we just got more of the dulled down writing to fit neatly into The Mandalorian? Star Wars isn't compact or neat, it's a messy ass story about a fucking force family across like 4 generations and how they're getting by in this cracked ass galaxy lol. There are seedy ecumenopolis levels, drugs a plenty and millennia old slave traditions in whole segments of space. I'd prefer a thousand more Star Wars tales like 03' clone wars but I believe the droids' been fried on this one...also the Jedi are completely at fault and are directly the caus of the galactic downfall. They had plenty of signals, warnings and shit happen but were too inflexible and traditional to do any real good...heh...
@@erich.1355 They meant Genndy Tartakovsky, the writer, animator, director and comic book author. Genndy Tartakovsky also made the animated series _Samurai Jack,_ among other things.
The part 1 episode of this is how I was introduced to the weekly planet. Was searching for something related to this show and that video popped up in my feed. After watching, I was hooked. I thought dang these guys are hilarious. Now it’s my top podcast. Thanks for all the laughs James and Maso!
Ya same here. I started with Caravan of Garbage Star Wars, then I started listening to their Weekly Planet podcast and I now listen to that religiously.
murdering your allies, your friends and children for an 'average at best' woman is not convincing. At least it wasn't written convincingly. it just makes him a simp, not a sith.
My favorite memory of this series was when Episode 3 came out, they re-aired the entire series without commercial break so you could watch it then go to the theater right after and jump into the story. Also, they have recently brought Durge back into canon again, so that’s pretty awesome!
@@rngmade6050, Disney doesn't care what was really there. He returned dead Palpi without explaining it in any way. Do you think he will explain Durge's return?
27:38 the utter sinister change in face expression from Palpatine 👏🏽😂 love him just walking back two steps into the shadows and thinking it’s safe to start looking sus 😅
"It's more Protein than your dryed out dehydrated space packets. Besides, I like the visceral feel of tearing things off my food." "You are one strange individual Anakin, remind me to keep my eye on you." *Obi-Wan gets sent to Utapaua, thereby taking his eyes off Anakin.* "Oh Bantha Pudu."
My favorite Star Wars stories or series, ever!! I still have the DVDs of these, AND before that, I actually recorded them the old old fashion way.... VHS while watching live on Cartoon Network ! Thanks for this!
I wish that more animation looked like this today than… there’s a lot of great animation these days, and Primal is obviously top tier, but even more like this would be welcome
I remember back in 2005, in the lead up to the release of “Revenge of the Sith”, Cartoon Network had a night where they showed every single episode in a row, and it was pretty cool to watch. I recorded them all on the VHS, I still have it, still awesome.
Yo, was the absolutely perfect timing of "Red guy... two blue guys... you've got generic guys," just a fortuitous accident, or was there some particularly clever editing in that section? Because the thing about that scene was, with the colours of course representing ranks and/or squadrons that the clone troopers hailed from, an early draft had all the "generic" guys being from the blue squadron, meaning they were supposed to be highly trained special forces, and their decimation would demonstrate the seemingly insurmountable strength of the enemy. They were later demoted, as it were, to protect the continuity of later episodes where the droid army needed to be considered less competent. Interestingly though, that first draft of the scene, where the special forces were mown down with extreme prejudice, had the working title of "Blue Harvest", which was actually the same working title that was used as a recurring gag in Mr Sunday Movies' series of
I came to comment on that exact moment. It was just so perfect., the timing could not have been any better. Your comment contains more information than mine would have and also contains an inside joke about Mr Sunday videos, so you are officially the best. Well done.
@@kaptcha Oh, to be clear, everything after the question mark was total bollocks :p I just wanted to push it past the "Read More" button to really upsell the frustration factor for anyone who didn't see the punchline coming haha
I think the “crush” thing is more like Jedi can do crazy things but they have to be able to focus. Being horrified of Grievous or actively defending yourself from the onslaught is prooobably distracting That and without force senses, he could’ve been sniped at one point… …still though at some point yeaaaa they should’ve been able to
Nah, the reason is force crush which is what mace windu does is considered a a dark side ability, the Jedi condemn doing it completely but Mace Windu dabbles in both sides of the force and is able to control it which is why he uses it.
Genndy's clone wars did more for the Clone Wars than the movies did. The movies only showed us the very beginning and very end of that war in 2/3 of the prequels. Absolutely loved Samurai Jack, and everything that came out of this CW micro series!
It’s definitely how Anakin got his scar. Also, I prefer how menacing Grevious is. Also, with fictional universes you can build your own head cannon and not just follow what studio execs say
Much less than that, to be honest. Especially since Grievous is never depicted with his characteristic cough until the final episode (which is right before RotS's beginning). By contrast, _THE Clone Wars_ (2008) depicts him with his cough right from the start. ^ Not to mention the lack of a Padawan for Anakin (and let's be honest, the vast majority of "fans" *_hated_* Ahsoka's inclusion into the story at the start; I'm glad I wasn't one of them).
Nobody is more loosey gooses with cannon than George Lucas. “Droids”? “The Ewok Adventures” trilogy? The Holiday Special? The whole first decade of Star Wars comics released by Marvel?
12:15 So the lore explanation for every Jedi not doing what Mace did and crushing Grevious to bits is that he was taught to use tactics to break Jedi concentration, which makes it exponentially more difficult to use the force against him in a meaningful way. That’s why he’s only ever truly a menace when he has the clear upper hand from the beginning, whether that’s from fear, surprise, or letting his droids overwhelm his opponents first and then swooping in for the kill. That’s also why he retreats so much in the later Clone Wars series, because he recognizes often that he doesn’t have the upper hand and has to leave before the Jedi are able to really think and exploit his weaknesses.
At this point I could not care less what Disney considers canon anymore. This miniseries introduced ARC Troopers and General Grievous as actual threats, and made them interesting, which I can appreciate in this era of kinda neutered characters.
@@AnnDVine Actually both Clone Wars shows were hinted to have happened still since there wasn't anything really conflicting with each show but after the Disney Buyout they started to say that 2003 Clone Wars was no longer directly Canon despite there still being some hints to it in the other show......The Initial Canon after the Buyout before they started making New Disney Expanded Universe was a very confusing place 😅
@@TheEnecca For the Larger "Legends" Continuity Ventress has parts that doesn't match up with the current Continuity but nothing was outright said within the 2003 Show itself to conflict with the 2008 Show for Ventress Pre-Disney Buyout if you're just looking at the shows themselves.
You make it sound like Disney’s the one that neutered Grievous but that was all George Lucas. Grievous doesn’t even show up for more than a second in the Disney produced season of The Clone Wars
Okay... I randomly decided to watch the original 2 videos of this earlier today. Also as trivia - despite not reappearing in this series, Durge actually survived his battle with Kenobi (5:20) and is resilient enough to make it through most of the Clone Wars until one of the late comics where Anakin throws him into a star...
For anyone who hasn't seen this series, it is now on Disney+ and definitely worth a watch (when they said it's not, it was true at the time, but this video is a re-edit)
I love how in both versions of the Clone Wars, Anakin has a vision of him becoming Vader and killing Padme, and yet in neither version does he stop and think “hey, maybe I should learn something from this and not continue down this path in life?”
Also a good reason why a lot of this isn’t canon is because Tartakovsky went a bit overboard with some of the things he introduced. Mainly, massive moving hover fortress which can crush an entire battlefield, and also, invincible unkillable flesh-monster bounty hunter…
@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 lmao overboard? in the new "canon" shows and movies jedi grab ships using the force and literally prevent them from going into hyperspace.
They did the Clone Wars in "real time" between 2&3. They used different media to tell the story of the war as it lead up to Episode 3. The coolest thing was the WW2 Newspaper styled monthly updates in Star Wars Insider. One page of Republic headlines and another of CIS, just a cool way to tell the story of the war.
Anakin’s voice makes the show for me personally! Love how the voice actor tried doing whiny Anakin, it took me a while too get into the newer clone wars because of Matt Lanter’s version
The Cartoon Network broadcast actually works in Vol 1’ s favor Each chapter would essentially end abruptly to black screen and then there would be a “next time” card then like half a second of action from the next chapter. I remember this adding a real sense of chaos and uncertainty to it all which I think works when your depicting the battles of war.
These videos were my introduction to this channel. I had to know why Clone Wars was being talked about on a show called 'Caravan of Garbage.' Every Russian author reference pulled me another step further towards that Subscribe button.
2 things. 1. Jango was a Mandalorian, the line on The Clone Wars was more a classist statement on the matter by a member of the Mandalorian government of the time. 2. Durge is actually canon, he's around in the canon comics.
In my head canon, this show takes place right before the 2008 Clone Wars show. Aside from some of the Shaak Ti stuff towards the end. I’d like to believe the battle of Hypori happened that way with Windu crushing Grievous. I treat the end when Anakin gets knighted.
With all the Star Wars media out there; this is still one of my favorites. The OT, Andor, and maybe the first 2 seasons of Mando beat it out (haven’t seen the other animated SW stuff, sorry if that’s better), but that’s it. It’s concise, gorgeous to look at, adds to the mythos and lore, and is just plain fun.
I loved everything about this series. It made grevious dangerous and scary, spotlighted cool characters who usually don’t get much screen time, made the clone wars feel epic, and showed how devious and manipulative palpatine was. Great stuff all around.
This right here was super well done, and the introduction to general grievous was very chilling. He was way better in this show and I wish they would have went that direction with him. The action the show was so much more fast-paced and it was probably the best action I've ever seen in Star Wars. They all used their powers fittingly and didn't hold back. Star wars would be so much better if they did it like this all the time. The Jedi are like Samurai, and the animation is like Samurai Jack (cuz made by same guy, right?)!
I remember watching these as they came out week by week. I would come home on Wednesday nights and wait all day and get so hyped when it came on. Still amazing to watch almost 20 years later
I love how they're like "oh just crush him" when we have see in multiple clips they tried to. The irony of "just force crush him" with ki adi moondi likely responding "I'm trying too I just can't hit him. You gotta catch that horror movie monster off guard plus he was supposed to be seen as a monster less than an enemy. But yeah fair enough I don't think he ever was immune.
Back in like 2019 Durge was made canon with the Doctor Aphra comics. Then later in like 2022 comics teamed up with Boba Fett because Durge needed help finding a cyborg scientist that could repair his failing cyborg body.
the two hours or so runtime of this miniseries is fantastic stuff. i watched it without end when i was a kid, also designed (just the drawings) myself a clone trooper armor based on the look from the series, and even designed myself 2 lightsaber hilts (3D models) after that, because of it. my brother and i had done this yeaaaaars ago but we lost the sketches, so i did it again. kind of a bummer that certain parts of it weren't included 1:1 in the reboot series. even if i love asajj in the new series and am fine with her fate, she was batshit crazy in the miniseries and anakin killing her like he did would've been great stuff for season 5-7
So many awesome scenes in this show! Absolutely love Grievous in here, pretty much all of his scenes are amazing. The animation, the menance, the dominance, so good.
Oh man, since the time of recording this, Durge has become canon so I was a bit confused until the second part of the video when I realized I’ve already watched this episode of CoG.
Fun fact about 3 of the OC jedi in this series: While the first volume was being produced there was an online vote to see which of three character designs would be featured in the last episode (of volume 1). The winner was the wolfman character (who also appears briefly in vol 2). The other two characters were the Ithorian and the Talz that escorted Palpatine and Shaak Ti out of the chancellors building in volume 2.
This series was amazing. Not sure which Clone Wars series I liked more. This one felt a little more real. The jedi were genuinely powerful forces of nature, the clones felt like well trained elite troopers, and the droid army felt like a near unstoppable wave of unfeeling machines. It had a clear beginning and end that led perfectly into the 3rd film.
As always, this has been a fantastic video to put in the background for company while I clean the garage. Thanks for being there to help cut through the monotony of the task ahead.
27:05 Mace Windu has an ability called "Shatterpoint." It allows him to spot critical weaknesses in virtual anything. Its what let him do all that fist fighting droids earlier in the series. Its also what he uses to hit Grievous. He immediately spots the weakness Grievous has, his lack of the force. He also can locate exactly WHERE to crush Grievous, how to crush it so it will break with minimal required force used, then used force crush to basically cripple Grievous. Its partially due to how calm he is too due to the form he uses, but thats only when he's fighting dark side users. Grievous wasnt a dark side user, so I'd bet on it being more shatterpoint than anything else
Durge is, in fact, canon again and has been for about a year now. I think it was done in the "War of the Bounty Hunters" comic series, in an issue of Doctor Aphra, if I remember right...
@12:55 he moves faster then the force i highly doubt it would work. Mace got lucky and caught him off guard, meanwhile master mundi fought him for hours and every time he used the force was unable to hit him with it. basically mace got lucky by surprising him, mundi is the actual result of trying that with the horror monster that is grievous (2003)
like in the clone wars comics 2003 he beat ventris and dirge and fought mace to a stand still on a battle field in legends and was only forced to retreat because more jedi then he planed to take on showed up to help mace. legends grevious is a nightmare made real.
While it's not officially canon, there's literally nothing stopping the entire first volume from being canon. Just have it all happen before the battle of Christopsis, and it would fit together perfectly. Heck, parts of it are already being recanonized with Mace Windu fighting on Dantooine and Grievous slaughtering Jedi and Republic forces on Hypori.
This series was great because it was made by the legendary Genndy Tartakovsky of Samurai Jack & Primal fame. He's brilliant in animation because he does so much with so little. This series works more as an idyllic version of Star Wars in a way all fanfiction writers wish they were capable of. It's a standalone animated series that isn't really meant to perfectly sync with canon. And I'm glad they gave Genndy that liberty because he had the talent to make it work. Hopefully one day, they'll hire him to do it again.
Main entry to style and art in Genndy Tartakovsky's depiction of the Clone Wars. . easily one of the most immersive Story I grew up with just rewatching Disc 1 and 2 back to back.
The idea behind Grievous for Tartakovsky was that he was such a genius at playing mind games and so aggressive during combat that Jedi wouldn't have much time to think while fighting and I absolutely loved it. When he makes the mistake of getting cocky against Windu who isn't so easily intimidated it bites him in the ass.
is that really from tartakovsky though? I have seen the behind the scenes of George creating Grievous so I assumed all of that came from him.
@@mike-mz6yz I'm not sure if it was Lucas vision for him, but I feel like Tartakovsky's series is the only series that ever really delivers on that vision for the character.
@user-mo6yl6jr5l there's one episode in this series that actually shows Dooku training Grievous, and that sort of full on aggression and fear tactics is what Dooku teaches Grievous.
@@DreamStepper According to Tartakovsky Lucas was kinda confused on if Grievous was an effective killing machine or a mustache twirling villain who constantly had to run after being beaten so the part where we see Dooku training him was meant to justify how he could be both and the part with Windu cruses his chest was because after they were mostly done they were told he had a cough in the movies and to show how he got it.
Even great strategists make mistakes.
The Italian aliens section was oddly deep. The men went to war, war made them into monsters. When they returned home, the women feared them now, and the men were ashamed, but the women loved them anyways. Not only is that a metaphor for real life veterans, but it also parallels Anakin and Padme as he gradually becomes worse and worse and she doesn't know what to do.
Fun fact: those aliens speak hungarian, which I know cause I am hungarian, and so is Tartakovski's wife
@@officialWensonMusic yeah I was say the same
This! also I love the Nelvaanian species.
And the kid represented Luke. Despite his father becoming a monster, he still loved him which caused his father to redeem himself.
Yeah I really enjoyed that arc. Anakin helps become their savior but by using the dark side. The mutated natives try to do the right thing and gain their freedom w his help, and their families come to accept them later
This show was peak General Grievous, he was absolutely terrifying in this!
And peak Mace Windu
And Yoda
And Obi Wan
Anakin, still a whiney baby.
@@JR-ii4lq Good thing Clone Wars happened. Some movie scenes are pretty good. Especially the one without talking before he goes to windu and palpatine
Jango not being Mandalorian was a line given in The Clone Wars animated series by a character that despised him. It was meant as an insult and was that character's opinion.
Except after that, it was outright stated by Lucasfilm that it was George's decision to not make him a mando, and numerous canon reference guides also stated Jango had no affiliation with them. Disney later retconned George when The Mandalorian revealed the Fett codex. Many people wrongly assume George's word is absolute in the Disney era, but it has been changed several times and for a much better outcome.
@@thewarner2139 It's ridiculous to think about because the whole reason we even care about the Mandalorians is because of Boba and Jango. They're what made them a thing in the first place! There would be no Mandalorians without the Fetts.
@@CodyHeldreth I think the message they're trying to convey is that anyone can be a Mandalorian
@@CodyHeldreth What about the Mandalorians in KOTOR?
@@Mitchisable I mean in a "concept" sort of case. Concept wise, the first Mandalorians we see in the franchise are the Fetts. Chronological wise of course the KOTOR ones are legit. I just find it ironic that some old politician didn't consider Jango a Mandalorian when the whole culture revolves around a warrior ideology. It's like an 80 year old man claiming that kids aren't hip. I'm of course referring to the one guy from the Clone Wars series.
Absolute classic. *THE* Clone Wars is still awesome, but this for me is the absolute greatest thing to come out of Star Wars in animated form. Real shame we haven’t seen General Grievous be anywhere *_NEAR_* as cool as this in the twenty years since this show.
For further iteration on this Grievous (one of my favorite characters), the droids, Mace Windu and the fucking clones get so much development in this! Imagine that! These were released originally back in the day on Cartoon Network and were shorts. They are 3-15 mins long each and aired as quick star wars bites. It blew my fucking mind; beautiful, cool, minimal words and visual story telling. Even Roron Corobb has some god tier cool shit and makes you feel the Star Wars universe is broad and diverse! I was expecting something like this with Book of Boba Fett but we just got more of the dulled down writing to fit neatly into The Mandalorian? Star Wars isn't compact or neat, it's a messy ass story about a fucking force family across like 4 generations and how they're getting by in this cracked ass galaxy lol. There are seedy ecumenopolis levels, drugs a plenty and millennia old slave traditions in whole segments of space. I'd prefer a thousand more Star Wars tales like 03' clone wars but I believe the droids' been fried on this one...also the Jedi are completely at fault and are directly the caus of the galactic downfall. They had plenty of signals, warnings and shit happen but were too inflexible and traditional to do any real good...heh...
He is quite overpowered in this miniseries.
Absolute classic, War and Peace.
20 years?! Fuck, now I feel old.
20 years ... kill me
Tartakovsky never makes a bad show.
*Dostoyevsky
@@erich.1355 They meant Genndy Tartakovsky, the writer, animator, director and comic book author. Genndy Tartakovsky also made the animated series _Samurai Jack,_ among other things.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog @Eric H. would be referencing the in-joke of the video.
@@pious83 Tolstoi*
@@yeedleed2388 *Trotsky
The part 1 episode of this is how I was introduced to the weekly planet. Was searching for something related to this show and that video popped up in my feed. After watching, I was hooked. I thought dang these guys are hilarious. Now it’s my top podcast. Thanks for all the laughs James and Maso!
Appreciate it mate, appreciate you took a chance on it!
Ya same here. I started with Caravan of Garbage Star Wars, then I started listening to their Weekly Planet podcast and I now listen to that religiously.
same
Same
Have I ever had a unique experience?
Anakin fight with Ventress is a much more convincing step to the dark side than anything in the live action films
Right because trying and wanting to stop the woman you love for over a decade and your child from dying just isn't realistic.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq sure, on paper that sounds good. In practice, up on the screen, not executed quite so well
Killing the Tuskan Raiders in AOTC was pretty convincing to me.
murdering your allies, your friends and children for an 'average at best' woman is not convincing. At least it wasn't written convincingly. it just makes him a simp, not a sith.
What he did to the Tuskins was more convincing than the 2003 show
I think “Clone Wars” and “The Clone Wars” are both great shows. No notes.
The commitment to the Dostoyevsky references is insanely impressive.
It's crazy how that joke went (for me anyway):
1. Amusing
2.Tiresome
3. Hilarous
My favorite memory of this series was when Episode 3 came out, they re-aired the entire series without commercial break so you could watch it then go to the theater right after and jump into the story.
Also, they have recently brought Durge back into canon again, so that’s pretty awesome!
What did they bring Durge back into Canon with?
@@ReanuKeevesAus comics
Let me guess: He was introduced only to be humiliated and killed by new Mary Sue? I think so, because Disney did this to all the "oldies".
@@Suhoputnaya_Akula anakin threw him into a star
@@rngmade6050, Disney doesn't care what was really there. He returned dead Palpi without explaining it in any way. Do you think he will explain Durge's return?
27:38 the utter sinister change in face expression from Palpatine 👏🏽😂 love him just walking back two steps into the shadows and thinking it’s safe to start looking sus 😅
Still my favourite version of Grievous in any star wars media compared to the ROTS movie and 2008 show
Because that's such a long list...
Because that’s so relevant to what the original commenter was saying...
Agreed he was a real menacing Jedi hunter in this show
"Anakin! The logistics troopers have supplied us with rations, we've got space MREs please stop eating bugs!" - Obi Wan
"It's more Protein than your dryed out dehydrated space packets. Besides, I like the visceral feel of tearing things off my food."
"You are one strange individual Anakin, remind me to keep my eye on you."
*Obi-Wan gets sent to Utapaua, thereby taking his eyes off Anakin.* "Oh Bantha Pudu."
Anakin- "Hakuna matata."
I absolutely loved this version growing up. Has a special place in my heart.
Obi-wan in Clone Armour with Episode II hair is PEAK character design
Totally underrated show, hidden gem even.
It was disappointing that they didn’t do more and went with the terrible looking Filoni led series
My favorite Star Wars stories or series, ever!! I still have the DVDs of these, AND before that, I actually recorded them the old old fashion way.... VHS while watching live on Cartoon Network ! Thanks for this!
I lost the dvd of vol 2 my greatest teenage regret but the vol includes an xbox demo on battlefront on it, the gungan battle if I recall.
Vol 1 has the demo
The animation is incredible, so fluid and such an interesting style
I wish that more animation looked like this today than… there’s a lot of great animation these days, and Primal is obviously top tier, but even more like this would be welcome
I remember back in 2005, in the lead up to the release of “Revenge of the Sith”, Cartoon Network had a night where they showed every single episode in a row, and it was pretty cool to watch. I recorded them all on the VHS, I still have it, still awesome.
Yo, was the absolutely perfect timing of "Red guy... two blue guys... you've got generic guys," just a fortuitous accident, or was there some particularly clever editing in that section? Because the thing about that scene was, with the colours of course representing ranks and/or squadrons that the clone troopers hailed from, an early draft had all the "generic" guys being from the blue squadron, meaning they were supposed to be highly trained special forces, and their decimation would demonstrate the seemingly insurmountable strength of the enemy. They were later demoted, as it were, to protect the continuity of later episodes where the droid army needed to be considered less competent. Interestingly though, that first draft of the scene, where the special forces were mown down with extreme prejudice, had the working title of "Blue Harvest", which was actually the same working title that was used as a recurring gag in Mr Sunday Movies' series of
I came to comment on that exact moment. It was just so perfect., the timing could not have been any better. Your comment contains more information than mine would have and also contains an inside joke about Mr Sunday videos, so you are officially the best. Well done.
@@kaptcha Oh, to be clear, everything after the question mark was total bollocks :p I just wanted to push it past the "Read More" button to really upsell the frustration factor for anyone who didn't see the punchline coming haha
"He's eating raw bugs at one point, like a MONSTER"
That delivery killed me lmao
To be fair, he grew up in slavery. Being a picky eater was probably never an option for Anakin
I think the “crush” thing is more like Jedi can do crazy things but they have to be able to focus. Being horrified of Grievous or actively defending yourself from the onslaught is prooobably distracting
That and without force senses, he could’ve been sniped at one point…
…still though at some point yeaaaa they should’ve been able to
Nah, the reason is force crush which is what mace windu does is considered a a dark side ability, the Jedi condemn doing it completely but Mace Windu dabbles in both sides of the force and is able to control it which is why he uses it.
@@nathanielhawkins5683 and the gun Obi uses?
@@MeisterGeekMedia based on lore they are okay to use guns, they can use any weapons they want
@@MeisterGeekMedia just lightsabers easily beat blasters on multiple occasions
@@nathanielhawkins5683 but the force is also a weapon they use it for offensive capabilities
Genndy's clone wars did more for the Clone Wars than the movies did. The movies only showed us the very beginning and very end of that war in 2/3 of the prequels. Absolutely loved Samurai Jack, and everything that came out of this CW micro series!
I still consider this canon. You can fit in like 97% with no issue.
It’s definitely how Anakin got his scar. Also, I prefer how menacing Grevious is.
Also, with fictional universes you can build your own head cannon and not just follow what studio execs say
Almost as if, with a little tweaking, this should have been the Attack of the Clones movie.
Much less than that, to be honest. Especially since Grievous is never depicted with his characteristic cough until the final episode (which is right before RotS's beginning). By contrast, _THE Clone Wars_ (2008) depicts him with his cough right from the start.
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Not to mention the lack of a Padawan for Anakin (and let's be honest, the vast majority of "fans" *_hated_* Ahsoka's inclusion into the story at the start; I'm glad I wasn't one of them).
@@whiteraven1992 You could easily hand wave that away.
@@dupersuper1938 You could, but it'd be quite easily noticeable for those familiar.
20:30 to 20:47 is still the funniest editing I’ve ever seen to this day
I really like Anakin in this version. The portrayal it’s just really well done.
And that vision in the steam caves is just so good!
I agree. Clone Wars Anakin feels more in line with the movies than TCW Anakin does.
Nobody is more loosey gooses with cannon than George Lucas. “Droids”? “The Ewok Adventures” trilogy? The Holiday Special? The whole first decade of Star Wars comics released by Marvel?
12:15 So the lore explanation for every Jedi not doing what Mace did and crushing Grevious to bits is that he was taught to use tactics to break Jedi concentration, which makes it exponentially more difficult to use the force against him in a meaningful way.
That’s why he’s only ever truly a menace when he has the clear upper hand from the beginning, whether that’s from fear, surprise, or letting his droids overwhelm his opponents first and then swooping in for the kill.
That’s also why he retreats so much in the later Clone Wars series, because he recognizes often that he doesn’t have the upper hand and has to leave before the Jedi are able to really think and exploit his weaknesses.
I’ve really enjoyed the piece-by-piece recanonization of this series. Kit Fisto’s underwater lightsaber, Dirge, Captain Fordo,…
That Shaak-Ti deleted scene matches up with the end of this series as Shaak-Ti is trying to escape with Palpatine and being pursued by Grievous.
I dont think it really does as Mace finds her tied up in the vault area at the end.
Dang that would’ve been sick, missed opportunity
@@joshuawalters7520, in fact, this is only version of Shaak Ti that did not die at the end of the story.
At this point I could not care less what Disney considers canon anymore. This miniseries introduced ARC Troopers and General Grievous as actual threats, and made them interesting, which I can appreciate in this era of kinda neutered characters.
Surely it was already not canon by the time Disney reshuffled everything?
@@AnnDVine Actually both Clone Wars shows were hinted to have happened still since there wasn't anything really conflicting with each show but after the Disney Buyout they started to say that 2003 Clone Wars was no longer directly Canon despite there still being some hints to it in the other show......The Initial Canon after the Buyout before they started making New Disney Expanded Universe was a very confusing place 😅
@@OmniNexuz the stuff with ventress doesnt match up right?
@@TheEnecca For the Larger "Legends" Continuity Ventress has parts that doesn't match up with the current Continuity but nothing was outright said within the 2003 Show itself to conflict with the 2008 Show for Ventress Pre-Disney Buyout if you're just looking at the shows themselves.
You make it sound like Disney’s the one that neutered Grievous but that was all George Lucas. Grievous doesn’t even show up for more than a second in the Disney produced season of The Clone Wars
Okay... I randomly decided to watch the original 2 videos of this earlier today.
Also as trivia - despite not reappearing in this series, Durge actually survived his battle with Kenobi (5:20) and is resilient enough to make it through most of the Clone Wars until one of the late comics where Anakin throws him into a star...
I watched the transformers ones and then they released the one big video too lol
I did last week
Threw him into a star 😂🎉😂🎉😂🎉
For anyone who hasn't seen this series, it is now on Disney+ and definitely worth a watch (when they said it's not, it was true at the time, but this video is a re-edit)
I love how in both versions of the Clone Wars, Anakin has a vision of him becoming Vader and killing Padme, and yet in neither version does he stop and think “hey, maybe I should learn something from this and not continue down this path in life?”
Also a good reason why a lot of this isn’t canon is because Tartakovsky went a bit overboard with some of the things he introduced. Mainly, massive moving hover fortress which can crush an entire battlefield, and also, invincible unkillable flesh-monster bounty hunter…
@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 lmao overboard? in the new "canon" shows and movies jedi grab ships using the force and literally prevent them from going into hyperspace.
@@soulstealer567exactly
The best thing to come out of the prequels. It was too good to be considered canon.
lol ok
@@chand911 You just bored? 8th comment on the video dog get a life lmao
@@chand911he’s right, you’re wrong
Anakin vs Ventress is still to this day the greatest lightsaber fight ever done.
They did the Clone Wars in "real time" between 2&3. They used different media to tell the story of the war as it lead up to Episode 3. The coolest thing was the WW2 Newspaper styled monthly updates in Star Wars Insider. One page of Republic headlines and another of CIS, just a cool way to tell the story of the war.
Anakin’s voice makes the show for me personally! Love how the voice actor tried doing whiny Anakin, it took me a while too get into the newer clone wars because of Matt Lanter’s version
The Cartoon Network broadcast actually works in Vol 1’ s favor
Each chapter would essentially end abruptly to black screen and then there would be a “next time” card then like half a second of action from the next chapter.
I remember this adding a real sense of chaos and uncertainty to it all which I think works when your depicting the battles of war.
These videos were my introduction to this channel. I had to know why Clone Wars was being talked about on a show called 'Caravan of Garbage.' Every Russian author reference pulled me another step further towards that Subscribe button.
See James? One person cared. Literally just the one. This guy right here.
2 things.
1. Jango was a Mandalorian, the line on The Clone Wars was more a classist statement on the matter by a member of the Mandalorian government of the time.
2. Durge is actually canon, he's around in the canon comics.
Stop tricking me into rewatching things I’ve already watched please
I keep coming back to this series. I watched it whenever I had a snow day in elementary school and in middle school
In my head canon, this show takes place right before the 2008 Clone Wars show. Aside from some of the Shaak Ti stuff towards the end. I’d like to believe the battle of Hypori happened that way with Windu crushing Grievous. I treat the end when Anakin gets knighted.
Same here
This series is superior in every way to the 3D animated clone wars
Both have amazing aspects and lacklustre ones and being hyperbolic and biased doesn't make your favorite better
I agree wholeheartedly, the other ones are bad
This better have a bonus Dostoyevsky segment at the end.
With all the Star Wars media out there; this is still one of my favorites. The OT, Andor, and maybe the first 2 seasons of Mando beat it out (haven’t seen the other animated SW stuff, sorry if that’s better), but that’s it. It’s concise, gorgeous to look at, adds to the mythos and lore, and is just plain fun.
This is the show that introduced me to the ARC Troopers. If the Empire still had those guys...Luke and co would've been in so much trouble.
I loved everything about this series. It made grevious dangerous and scary, spotlighted cool characters who usually don’t get much screen time, made the clone wars feel epic, and showed how devious and manipulative palpatine was. Great stuff all around.
Perfect example of how Grievous uses fear to counter the Jedi force powers.
This animated Star Wars mini-series is 20 years old and is still kicking more nostalgia than Disney’s version.
You realize it was made in 2008 by George Lucas himself and not by Disney..
I mean the 2003 Clone Wars version.
The “Disney version” you speak of is still George’s version
Quite possibly my all-time favourite piece of Star Wars media 😊
8:45 It's sad how they did Windu's crew, particularly after reading the comic that showed how badass they were
This right here was super well done, and the introduction to general grievous was very chilling. He was way better in this show and I wish they would have went that direction with him. The action the show was so much more fast-paced and it was probably the best action I've ever seen in Star Wars. They all used their powers fittingly and didn't hold back.
Star wars would be so much better if they did it like this all the time. The Jedi are like Samurai, and the animation is like Samurai Jack (cuz made by same guy, right?)!
I was just watching Leo Tolstoy's Power Puff Girls the other day. Great stuff!
If you were a kid in the early/mid 00s, you have no idea how sick “Star Wars in samurai Jack style” was
I remember watching these as they came out week by week. I would come home on Wednesday nights and wait all day and get so hyped when it came on. Still amazing to watch almost 20 years later
I love how they're like "oh just crush him" when we have see in multiple clips they tried to. The irony of "just force crush him" with ki adi moondi likely responding "I'm trying too I just can't hit him. You gotta catch that horror movie monster off guard plus he was supposed to be seen as a monster less than an enemy. But yeah fair enough I don't think he ever was immune.
Yeah, nothing like someone who has no idea about what they're talking about acting like they've got it all figured out.
I love that they've made the gen'dai/durge canon with jedi survivor
Back in like 2019 Durge was made canon with the Doctor Aphra comics. Then later in like 2022 comics teamed up with Boba Fett because Durge needed help finding a cyborg scientist that could repair his failing cyborg body.
@@Elfenlied8675309bro these comics are sooo shit,… I know it doesn’t have anything to do with it but I just needed to say it 😂
The clone troopers were always competent. Stormtroopers are not clone troopers, they're conscripts and volunteers.
There are a few elderly clones among the stormtroopers, but yeah, most of them are militia + at best.
@@BluePhoenix_ yes, i was speaking broadly.
your editor did a great job lining up the voice-overs with the animations
the two hours or so runtime of this miniseries is fantastic stuff. i watched it without end when i was a kid, also designed (just the drawings) myself a clone trooper armor based on the look from the series, and even designed myself 2 lightsaber hilts (3D models) after that, because of it. my brother and i had done this yeaaaaars ago but we lost the sketches, so i did it again. kind of a bummer that certain parts of it weren't included 1:1 in the reboot series. even if i love asajj in the new series and am fine with her fate, she was batshit crazy in the miniseries and anakin killing her like he did would've been great stuff for season 5-7
So many awesome scenes in this show! Absolutely love Grievous in here, pretty much all of his scenes are amazing. The animation, the menance, the dominance, so good.
Oh man, since the time of recording this, Durge has become canon so I was a bit confused until the second part of the video when I realized I’ve already watched this episode of CoG.
Fun fact about 3 of the OC jedi in this series: While the first volume was being produced there was an online vote to see which of three character designs would be featured in the last episode (of volume 1). The winner was the wolfman character (who also appears briefly in vol 2). The other two characters were the Ithorian and the Talz that escorted Palpatine and Shaak Ti out of the chancellors building in volume 2.
Dude... We have been well overdue for a James (Grievous this time) meltdown, and it's so awesome...
Just imagine being in middle school and having to wait a whole week for your next 3 minute star wars fix.
I loved this as a kid still do.
This series was amazing. Not sure which Clone Wars series I liked more. This one felt a little more real. The jedi were genuinely powerful forces of nature, the clones felt like well trained elite troopers, and the droid army felt like a near unstoppable wave of unfeeling machines. It had a clear beginning and end that led perfectly into the 3rd film.
Those Tartakovsky seasons were bad ass
honestly this channel of all the channels gives me the best vibes on youtube
The only Clone Wars i will ever recognise and take out to dinner twice a week
Sounds pretty lonely
Missing out on some excellent storylines over 7 years
Wouldn't pull out of this Clone Wars 😩
@@mh2120 amen
James is totally right this is one of the best things to come out of the Star Wars universe
That Mace Windu fight was so good that I forgave the Prequel Trilogy for being what it was.
As always, this has been a fantastic video to put in the background for company while I clean the garage. Thanks for being there to help cut through the monotony of the task ahead.
The cartoon clone wars is probably the single best piece of Star Wars media aside from the original trilogy to ever come out
It was this show that got me into Star Wars. It is absolutely awesome.
Such a classic series which was really awesome and badass
“I’m just going to lean into it” Man I’ll never stop laughing.
Fun Fact: the original title of War and Peace was actually War, What Is It Good For?
I thought the original title was Blue Harvest?
The joke is, Shaak Ti is implied to have died on Kamino in The Bad Batch, so technically, she had her death depicted 6 seperate times now
22:24 As an Italian this made made me laugh way harder than it should have lol
This is the best Star Wars show ever made and not nearly enough people know about it.
A little update on Durge not being in canon: he appeared recently in a canon empire era comic. So basically Gen'Dai and Durge are canon now.
27:05 Mace Windu has an ability called "Shatterpoint."
It allows him to spot critical weaknesses in virtual anything. Its what let him do all that fist fighting droids earlier in the series.
Its also what he uses to hit Grievous. He immediately spots the weakness Grievous has, his lack of the force. He also can locate exactly WHERE to crush Grievous, how to crush it so it will break with minimal required force used, then used force crush to basically cripple Grievous.
Its partially due to how calm he is too due to the form he uses, but thats only when he's fighting dark side users. Grievous wasnt a dark side user, so I'd bet on it being more shatterpoint than anything else
Durge is, in fact, canon again and has been for about a year now. I think it was done in the "War of the Bounty Hunters" comic series, in an issue of Doctor Aphra, if I remember right...
This is peak animated Star Wars for me. Watched this on Toonami when it aired so long ago.
I saw a few episodes as a kid on toonami, one day I have to binge watch this.
@12:55 he moves faster then the force i highly doubt it would work.
Mace got lucky and caught him off guard, meanwhile master mundi fought him for hours and every time he used the force was unable to hit him with it.
basically mace got lucky by surprising him, mundi is the actual result of trying that with the horror monster that is grievous (2003)
like in the clone wars comics 2003 he beat ventris and dirge and fought mace to a stand still on a battle field in legends and was only forced to retreat because more jedi then he planed to take on showed up to help mace.
legends grevious is a nightmare made real.
@20:29 honestly bugs > mre's you can't change my mind on this lol.
The best Star Wars thing since Empire.
If i am not mistaken the first two episodes are indeed canon since Ventress references the duel with Anakin and he is a Jedi in the Clone wars movie
While it's not officially canon, there's literally nothing stopping the entire first volume from being canon. Just have it all happen before the battle of Christopsis, and it would fit together perfectly. Heck, parts of it are already being recanonized with Mace Windu fighting on Dantooine and Grievous slaughtering Jedi and Republic forces on Hypori.
This series was great because it was made by the legendary Genndy Tartakovsky of Samurai Jack & Primal fame. He's brilliant in animation because he does so much with so little. This series works more as an idyllic version of Star Wars in a way all fanfiction writers wish they were capable of. It's a standalone animated series that isn't really meant to perfectly sync with canon. And I'm glad they gave Genndy that liberty because he had the talent to make it work. Hopefully one day, they'll hire him to do it again.
Loved the Clone Wars 2D series.
It has its own style and captured the feel and drama where some of the movies failed.
James is old enough to have fought in the Clone Wars --gottem!!!!!
Main entry to style and art in Genndy Tartakovsky's depiction of the Clone Wars. . easily one of the most immersive Story I grew up with just rewatching Disc 1 and 2 back to back.
James and Maso have to talk about War and Peace next
This is heads and above better than anything Disney has belched out without question
You've stumbled on the biggest mystery: why didn't the jedi just rip people's heads off?
Absolutely love that you guys are making caravan of garbage videos longer