Tyler you can actually lock in exposure during video! @10:35. Go to Settings -> Camera -> Preserve Settings -> Exposure Adjustment; switch to on. When you take a video, you can set your exposure on the top left corner of your screen and it will keep it to your settings permanently. I leave mine at -0.7 and it helps the video retain more shadow detail and not look blown out at all. Love this video. The points you make are why I'm really eyeing Canon's new R8 camera, and hoping for a new Fuji x100vi. Cheers
This is a fantastic tip! I'd looked at this setting before didn't notice it brought the exposure control to the front. It still doesn't quite take care of my issue though, I want to lock exposure during a shot without locking focus. This would be the default of how a cinema camera works, but there's not way to do it on an iPhone.
The phone footage does look good on a phone screen but as soon as you put in a big screen it becomes instantly noticeable that it's shot on a phone. I do like the dynamic range processing though.
Different tools for different jobs. To me, I love butter smooth video and you get that with large sensors. The phones over sharpen and add too much micro detail to compensate for the small sensor. That said, sometimes the phone is the right tool to just get the footage.
I've had a Sony a7iii for a few years now which I used mostly professionally until I quit that last year, and currently an iPhone 13 Pro Max. Obviously the a7iii is the more capable camera overall, but I almost never used it for personal stuff. For trips or day-to-day photography fun, my 13 Pro Max is by far a more enjoyable experience, and churns out images I'm absolutely satisfied with... especially when shooting in ProRaw. It just gets out of the way and is one less thing to carry around with me, whereas the Sony with a 35mm f/1.8 on it is still a bit of a chonker. Now that I'm just a hobbyist again, the Sony is sitting around and I'll take it along for my next trip... but I already know my phone will get the vast majority of my attention. For those looking to get into (or dive deeper into) the hobby, I think it makes sense to buy a dedicated camera if you want to achieve something specific. Like... you need external flash, a focal length your phone doesn't offer, greater low light capabilities, compatibility with external accessories, high resolution, loads of control, etc. If you're just learning, I'd argue that photography is equal parts technical knowledge, intuition for composition, and editing skills... and you only really need a dedicated camera to develop some of the technical knowledge.
Lately I started to appreciate the 77mm telephoto more than the ultra wide. I hope they can improve the speed of the lens to be f1.8 since that would be sweet for portraits
Problem with iPhone (or phone in general) video is the overprocessing and oversharpening, as you mentioned. I can tell when a video was shot on a phone most of the times while watching on a small screen and every time I watch on a bigger screen. I just hate the oversharpening it does, I'd rather it kept a less sharp but natural looking image. This being said, I still shoot many of my videos on a phone because of how stable the footage is compared to my Sony a6400 (I don't have a gimbal yet). Good video!
What interests me is the commercial shown at 0:54 does not look oversharpenned and over processed unlike every single image that ever has come out of my iphone 13 pro max. I wonder how they do that, I guess they have a special camera app internally, I wish we had access to that.
@@definingslawek4731great observation, I missed that! Yeah, they definitely used Filmic Pro for that. It's the most used professional video app for iPhone, it even lets you shoot log and colour grade yourself in post. But it requires a monthly subscription :( apple could let us turn on or off sharpening for free but for some reason they don't. Same with the other phone makers
Even on a phone screen or for social media, I would still prefer a natural looking photo from a camera without intense HDR, sharpening and uncontrolled lens flare. To me, those ‘characteristics’ of a phone camera are like a beginner photographer trying so hard editing a photo but in a very unnatural way. I understand many people seem very much enjoy this ‘style’ and that’s good for them. But it’s not for me. Phone screen only saves the problem of resolution, but there are a lot more than that when it comes to the quality of a photo.
To me they look like day and night. The iPhone has so much sharpening and processing making it look horrible. There are barely any settings and phones are an ergonomic nightmare.
I’ve had my 14 Pro Max for a week now, upgraded from the 11 Pro Max. I’ve been mindblown for a week now haha. Thanks to ProRAW, I’m no longer looking to buy a fixed point and shoot like the Ricoh GRIII. The telephoto lens has become my favorite lens hands down.
RAW on the new 48mp lens is lovely but considering how long each photo takes to process after the shutter is pressed it doesn't really touch a big camera that can rapid fire.
@@alimomen You're right, but it's a compromise I'm wiling to take for the meantime. I hope the processing time for each photo decreases with the following generations.
As much as the 48mp sensor on the 14 Pro blows me away, I have been nothing but frustrated trying to get good photos compared to my 12 pro. The default camera app feels like you are constantly fighting against it to not produce a horribly over processed image and relying on 3rd party camera apps just isn't as good of a user experience as the stock camera. RAW shot with Halide is the best compromise but most of the time I want a simple, not totally blown out and AI processed jpeg, and I feel like I can't get that. Video on the other hand has been fantastic. The stabilization, the ultrawide lens upgrades, low light performance, and quality out of the main camera are just incredible.
I thought Jared Polin's demo of the 48 mpx sensor for portraits was inspiring. At last, great portrait quality from the phone, and an end to adobe clay skin.
Agreed. Whatever is happening processing wise these days has really been a degradation. You can even see it happening in real time - take a photo and then see it work through all this post processing to literally make the photo worse!
@@alimomen Yes this drives me nuts. When the image looks nice and then half a second later it turns into a super over sharpened mess. Does anyone know how to get it better?
@@matadormartin The only two options besides third party camera apps are shooting bursts with the volume button or by holding the shutter button to the left, or using live photo and then changing key photo
I have always been saying this, for vlogging(ultra wide angles) nothing beats the Iphone or the Gopro. It's light weight, better image quality on the go and doesn't really need a gimbal. For travelling, nothing beats the Iphone. When I travel with my Sony A7iv, I have to carry multiple lenses, a heavy gimbal, mics and what not. The only time I carry my camera setup is when I need a tight B roll for depth or for photography where I need the bokeh with my 105mm.
I'm a total amateur and I have a 14 Pro Max. Still, I bought myself an EOS m200 with a 22mm 2.0 pancake lens and everyone has been blown away with the photos I am taking compared to what people have with their iPhones. I think it has to do with bokeh? I think a landscape photo is hard to tell the difference but maybe what impresses people is the bokeh.
Thanks for this video! I’m a musician and a bit of a hobbyist photographer/videographer. I have a Canon EOS R6 and have been trying to fumble around with an external recorder to bypass the record limit so I can film my concerts which at any given time I’m obviously playing way more than 30min at a time, usually closer to an hour but often 90 min. It would be awesome to not have to ask somebody to hit start and stop on my cameras in the audience or drag a friend along to deal with it/have me worry about it while I’m playing music. So I’m trying to design a kit right now, where I can get a decent three camera shoot in reasonably low light conditions like concert venues and now I’m starting to think what if I just have one decent canon camera as a main camera and use two iPhones as different angles, used iPhone 11 or 12’s would be considerably cheaper than trying to get two or three new Canon mirrorless cameras, and lenses to keep up with them.
An iPhone is incredible at landscape shots and yes it edits the picture for me but I still would always take a raw file where can make the picture like I invisioned it
I should have turned off HDR a long time ago… Also, action mode is crazy. Might have to get an iPhone 15 Pro just to mess around with that. Kind of an eye opening vid for what the iPhone is really capable of.
Thanks for this. I get that full frame, raw, a camera, the physics will beat an iPhone hands down when compared, or a judged by a pro. But there is a cost, and a learning curve to the technical stuff…and on top of that there is the editing, and storytelling which is a whole other less black and white skill to learn. While learning the pro stuff, I enjoy honing my scenes and storytelling skills with an iPhone especially for travel and personal stuff. Capturing and sharing those memories shouldn’t have to wait for me to become a pro with tons of gear and proper lighting. It’s also much simpler when travelling with others who don’t have the time and patience for me to fiddle with big camera setup.
iPhone lenses are closer to 6mm. They are all ultra wide. This is why depth of field is so wide. DoF is proportional to 1/f^2. The focal length numbers Apple provides are their FF equivalents but this is only useful for comparing FOV. The lenses themselves are so wide they can only be used with small sensors because it would be impossible to avoid vingetting on larger format.
For me as photographer they went with the focal lengths the wrong way. 24mm on the standard lens is too wide in my opinion. I would much prefer a lens setup of 15mm, 28mm or 35mm and 85mm. It actually hold me back to buy the new one. I think also that the jpeg output since the Iphone 12 is worse than before. the jpegs are general a little too bright, over sharpened and especially the blues look very artificial. One of the benefits was once, that you could use the jpegs sooc and tweak it just a little for a preferred look.
I feel the same way. Many people use IPhone for family or pet photos, but honestly, 24mm is not a common focal length for those type of photos. If you take a close up shot, the faces will be so distorted, but when you take a environmental portrait using that focal length and zoom in, the image quality is then very disappointing. Fake HDR color is something we can edit in post, but editing every phone photo for better color? No, it’s not for me.
@@NetvoTV Always a tough question. It also depends what model you are using. If I had a well working 13/14pro I would probably skip it. If you want to upgrade I recommend to go for a pro model because of the prores raw mode and the three lenses. Be aware that the new focal lengths of 28mm and 35 on the new pro model are just digital corps from high resolutions images. The test images I saw so far are good but they look still oversaturated with a tendency to brown and yellow tones. The fake bokeh seems to look better on the new phones.
It used to be said the best camera is the one you have with you and you always have your phone with you. I think ultrawide is more important, you can always zoom in afterwards, you can never zoom out to see what you missed, however I'd choose to have both tele and ultrawide before a blurry portrait mode or macro where there's a choice. As you say you can be more creative with a phone, also you attract less attention.
Phone cameras are cool but it's not even close to anything that's APS-C or FF. iPhone photos just look overproccessed and have a certain look that most people can identify. Oh and anything that's not ideal lighting conditions, a decent camera will absolutely destroy the iPhone. Personally, I don't think we are anything close to making comparisons to an actual camera.
Underrated tip for Voice Memos app on iPhone, you can go into the iPhone settings and scroll down Voice Memos app > recording quality > Lossess (rather than compressed)
Iphones have definitely caught up to mirrorless photographer due to their digital processing, but certainly not for video in my opinion, at least in the professional world, for social media that is certainly up for debate. Dedicated cameras are meant to be shot in raw format with very high bit depth, and are way more flexible, Iphones are overall better for most people on social media like instagram mostly because of its easier usability great video quality. Great, but not better than full-frame cameras for professional work when it come to things like low light, flexibility in post, bitrate, bit depth, lens, depth of field, audio quality. there is capturing video, then there is capturing 'information', the latter of which will always produce a better image because it is done best by camera bodies and those who use them to the fullest, which is crucial. Full-frame cameras are not going anywhere anytime soon, at least in the professional film industry
I agree with this 100%.. I remember years ago when tourist would carry big heavy cameras, but over the years, more and more tourists are using Google Pixels and iPhones, which are lighter and produce image quality that are good enough!
I don't know what your monitoring environment is but the audio recorded from an iPhone microphone isn't 'kinda close' to professional quality. It sounds like what it is, i.e. a small and cheap microphone. The visuals are good... until you blow them up and view them on an actual monitor. I can understand the appeal from a production point of view, but producing for the lowest common denominator leads to low quality media... although granted most people won't notice due to the ubiquitous use of smart devices.
Computational photography/videography saves me tons of time in post not to mention shooting with a phone makes for better docs putting your subjects at ease compared to a big lumbering rig in their face.
It’s wild how much better the 13mm lens got with the 14pro .. they managed to get rid of all that awful noise and compression that plagued the iPhone 13s 13mm
Watching the Dolby Vision HDR videos on the 1000nits Mini-LED XDR screen MacBook Pros is just amazing. I don’t know if I will get better results with it turned off..
It’s definitely telephoto. I almost never use ultra wide or even the standard wide. Telephoto is the only way to get portrait shots with no distortion. It’s the only “normal” camera lens on iPhone.
I disagree ! IPhone footage has a extra Orange look to it . Also Apple haven't fixed reflexions from the lenses . I believe the reflexion is coming from the flash
There is a shortcut you can download that gives you an option that can compress a RAW 48mp photo in to a smaller size jpeg and still keep the same high quality.
Telephoto is so superior. Also one big negative for iPhone footage is that it is STILL VFR. So frustrating that they have a whole cinema mode and can record ProRes but can’t get it at a constant frame rate.
This is exactly what I was considering 2 years ago, and in the end I actually decided to sell most of my pro equipment (it was easier for me because I am not a pro photographer - making photos or videos does not pay my bills); but I came to that conclusion, that the "hi-end" mobile devices (Android or iOS) - everyone knows which brands I am talking about, will be getting better and better every next year, taking more and more of the "big" pro-camera piece of the market in the future. Mobile devices are made in millions of pieces and that gives them a distinct advantage. These devices will simply win this "battle" in the future. I would predict that this could happen within the next 10 years. With a small "pro" mobile device you can shoot anything anytime. You are "immediately" ready, while with a big pro camera, for a great shot you have to be ready (already) and waiting. That's the difference. Pro photographers with big cameras have to plan their shots, they have often bad luck of losing a shot or losing an opportunity to make a great shot, just because shooting with big pro camera takes a lot more time, especially when preparing the shot and everything. And it is a well known fact, that the best camera is the camera you have at hand, and I can add to it, that the best camera is also the camera which is immediately ready to shoot ... so the only difference which remains is the size of the sensor.
It's the physics that will never change. Indeed if you look at the "pro" market you'll see that most manufacturers are actually trying to go for bigger abd bigger sensors. 10-20 years ago most stills were APS-C and video was 2/3". Now most mirrorless cameras are "full frame" and video/cinema is either S35 or "full frame".
Phone has more dynamic range, but the iPhone in particular, can be so fake that a human can immediately tell. Iphone in particular, oversharpens the picture so much it looks like sxxx, and it got worse since the iPhone XS.
If your pictures are coming out worse than your phone using a dslr. Camera user error and lack of post processing knowledge sounds more like the issue.
The aperture isn't f1.8 on a ff camera. On a mft lens you have to double the f stop. I don't know what the ratio is on a smart phone, but I promise you that you won't get the same bokeh on a smart phone
iphone 14 pro main sensor has a crop factor of 4.38. so for example in order even to achieve f/2.8 full frame equivalent you would need a physical f/0.64 lens on the iPhone. impossible! on an iphone you need software blurring whenever you need to get faster than f/8.0 or even f/11 full frame equivalent.
You were very frank about it. I totally agree with what you said. Especially becoming more creative with the iPhone. I used to have a ZV-E10 and I just traded it for a ZV-1, as I wanted to keep that camera look and control. I wish I had a full frame though. I can’t wait for the time when Apple starts to give us like 1” sensor and better/less over processed results. But as iPhones get better at computational photography, camera manufacturers will eventually have to deliver a better product as well. In the end, we consumers are the winners.
the ultra wide, with lens correction, in RAW is pretty amazing with the iphone. i use it as a companion camera/lens. however, i rather use my 24-105 f/4 or my 70-200 2.8 for everything else (i only use primes for special events).
Excellent video, Tyler. Totally agree; what's possible today using an iPhone is phenomenal, and that's only going to increase even more in the future. Will be checking out your other videos. You got a new subscriber!
As a photographer with both full frame camera and iPhone I have to disagree. Full Frame camera produces better images in most cases. You also have more control over exposure (choosing ISO, Aperture, and Shutter speed). Not so much with the iPhone. I have iPhone 14 Plus and the phone ruins every single photo I take of with post processing.
To be fair, the Star Wars prequels were panned exactly because they were shot on digital before digital was ready for it and DV was used for only specific shots in 28 Days Later, it was mostly shot on film.
@@stalmanYes, but it’s true. I have a Lumix g95 and a Lumix S5 and for macro photography I always use the g95 because the 1:1 is 2:1 with the Olympus 60mm macro lens. On the other side in low light situations I use the S5 for obvious reasons.
Yes, like shooting mobile journalism type things - kids up close working together in a classroom, and the depth of field of a small sensor lets me show the environment they're working in - other kids in the background, the look of the room, etc.
Great video highlighting a lot of the key benefits to using iPhone, although it makes me sad to see my beloved pro cameras being slowly phased out. Also, props for being one of the few YT's to mention at 11:28 that HDR should generally just be turned off on iPhones for video. It's too much of a hassle in post and just not worth it ultimately. There's a funny scene in the new Alison Brie movie "Someone I Used to Know" where her character, who is a big shot reality TV host, is asked to shoot her friends wedding. The person who asks is like "we were gonna get his friend to do it but we know he'd blow it - how lucky are we a true professional is in town." I'm expecting Brie to show up with a DSLR or mirrorless camera, but what does she whip out for the wedding video? An iPhone 13 Pro. A true sign times are changing.
I honestly love the HDR option. I import all my footage into Premiere and then create a Rec. 2100 HLG sequence and at the end export it in Rec. 2100 HLG or PQ. Premiere handles HDR much better nowadays than it did before, I remember back in the day that even if you had an HDR display, you could not preview an HDR sequence without that Blackmagic box hardware. Now you can preview it on any HDR display before rendering without any additional hardware, just like you can with SDR sequences. HDR is huge for me, I consider it to be a lot more important than 8K. Having physically much brighter highlights and a wider colour gamut makes footage look a lot more life-like when seen on a true HDR display (like an OLED or Mini-LED display). I did some "tests" and pretty much everyone that watched an HDR vs a non-HDR video on my OLED display preferred the HDR one (even if they couldn't point out why). And best thing is that now most midrange and upper phones have HDR capable OLED displays!
what pixel are you using that is not good for video? when i film a video people always like wow that looks great! iphone adds a yellow hue. I think at night iphone video is a little better. If your serious about recording you make sure the lighting is ideal for the situation.
It would be great to see how you organise your iPhone to manage the videos you take. Footage so easily gets mixed up with day to day photos etc plus you can’t label in the photos app afaik. Even creating albums and adding to there is a cumbersome process…..I kinda thing the dedicated SD card is a lot simpler and easier to import into the computer . It feels like there must be a better way on the iPhone to organise content creation media. Thanks
Great Video. As much as I want to use my mirrorless FF the convenience of a 14 Pro, especially when I am already lugging kids stuff around, is always the way. Also what is that slick band of your Ultra watch? Thx
I use 77mm tele lens much more than ultra wide macro. Love both, the reason I traded my 12 ProMax in for the 14 ProMax, rather than waiting my usual 3 years to upgrade. Now hoping 15 ProMax gives us Sony 3X to 6X optical zoom rather than creating 48MP sensor for 3X Tele and cropping in like Apple does on 1X.
Interesting title and video. I guess your statements holds for the absolute majority of the population. But for the industry and enthusiasts like me I don't think a phone size sensor will replace FF and beyond for many decades. In all lighting conditions my 600/4 will be superior on my ff's e g. Now and 2050. And there are reasons to why Phase One and Hasselblad still sells. Stack 23 150mp with the former and print large and you realize it's a universe between the sensors and glass.
Few comments. Filmic pro : Swindlers! I bought and payed for the pro version. 7 months later i got a mail that i have to pay AGAIN, and now each year! You dont want to pay, again, it stops working. So they stole back the app you bought and payed for. I was kind of waiting you mentioning the flickering when making video, thats been on the iphone for 3 years already. When shooting large objects in the same color (like a grass field, or trees in a forrest), the whole picture starts "flickering". Still no solution for that or how to prevent it.
off-topic comment - you mentioned iCloud - I wish there was a single switch on settings that would prevent the phone from copying my videos to iCloud, I just need the photos to backup.
idk why i know iphone pics are amazing i have a 14 pro max but i just cant get myself to use it for pics i have a T7i and I feel like i have way more control with it vs iPhone and that i can be more creative with a camera and lens. anyone else feel the same? curious
Dammit, man! Now I'm wondering if I should just sell off my Sony A7C and put it towards paying off my iPhone 14 Pro Max. Not even joking - I really do have more fun shooting with my iPhone while my camera tends to sit at home unless something super important comes up. I don't shoot as professionally as much anymore - most of the stuff I shoot is just personal stuff for social media - and the reasons you listed here make such a great case for just using what you have on you - in my case, my iPhone.
I faced the same question, more or less. I have the 14 Pro and a Canon R6. Thing is, the R6 can do things the 14 Pro can't come close to - like taking amazing face shots of dancers, speakers, singers, instrumentalists, theater, etc. I'm sometimes tempted to sell the EF 135mm F/2 because I could use the $600 for x, y, z. But - no way. L glass with a full-frame sensor can show people's character far more clearly and in microdetail than the phone. Also, for movement in low light the R6 sensor and 135mm F/2 are amazing, and the photos are hugely croppable, giving me the equivalent of a 400mm F/2. No kidding, the cropped pics look wonderful. Also, the EF 24-105 L is an amazing bargain. People tend to forget what a wonderful lens it is, just because it was sold as a "kit lens" and there are so many of them around. And the R6 stabilizes the 135! Perfect for low-light performances where a slow shutter speed is okay. I now think of the phone as a wonderful tool for video, especially in Cinematic mode which lessens the unnatural digital sharpening, and also as a storytelling camera where close-up character shots are less important than capturing a general impression - an activity, a fun event, etc. Both are huge fun in their own ways; it isn't either-or, it's both-and. They are specialty cameras, which is a very good thing. People need to get away from the notion that one camera should do everything brilliantly. Not in the present state of tech.
Maybe novelty is a factor, but I have an XT30 with a few lenses but it and the 27mm pancake comes basically everywhere for me, I hardly shoot on my 13p anymore. Really compact setup.
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Tyler you can actually lock in exposure during video! @10:35. Go to Settings -> Camera -> Preserve Settings -> Exposure Adjustment; switch to on. When you take a video, you can set your exposure on the top left corner of your screen and it will keep it to your settings permanently. I leave mine at -0.7 and it helps the video retain more shadow detail and not look blown out at all. Love this video. The points you make are why I'm really eyeing Canon's new R8 camera, and hoping for a new Fuji x100vi. Cheers
This is a fantastic tip! I'd looked at this setting before didn't notice it brought the exposure control to the front.
It still doesn't quite take care of my issue though, I want to lock exposure during a shot without locking focus. This would be the default of how a cinema camera works, but there's not way to do it on an iPhone.
Why the hell is there a separate setting for that?
@@stalman Android phones do have a way of locking exposure and focus separately, like it is even available on midrange phones.
@@ashyouknow7420since when were we talking about android?
@@sgtbonsai Shows how innovative Android phone cameras are.
The phone footage does look good on a phone screen but as soon as you put in a big screen it becomes instantly noticeable that it's shot on a phone. I do like the dynamic range processing though.
you gotta think of the final use, so much media consumed on smart phones now. fast and accessible
@@AniaB yes, for social media platforms phone quality is good enough.
Check motioncam footage taken on android.
The footage doesn't look like taken from andorid
even at the size of a a4 Paper and after YT compression its still like day and night difference
iPhone video is overly sharpened and grainy. There no comparison to a professional sensor and real optics.
Different tools for different jobs. To me, I love butter smooth video and you get that with large sensors. The phones over sharpen and add too much micro detail to compensate for the small sensor. That said, sometimes the phone is the right tool to just get the footage.
I've had a Sony a7iii for a few years now which I used mostly professionally until I quit that last year, and currently an iPhone 13 Pro Max. Obviously the a7iii is the more capable camera overall, but I almost never used it for personal stuff. For trips or day-to-day photography fun, my 13 Pro Max is by far a more enjoyable experience, and churns out images I'm absolutely satisfied with... especially when shooting in ProRaw. It just gets out of the way and is one less thing to carry around with me, whereas the Sony with a 35mm f/1.8 on it is still a bit of a chonker. Now that I'm just a hobbyist again, the Sony is sitting around and I'll take it along for my next trip... but I already know my phone will get the vast majority of my attention.
For those looking to get into (or dive deeper into) the hobby, I think it makes sense to buy a dedicated camera if you want to achieve something specific. Like... you need external flash, a focal length your phone doesn't offer, greater low light capabilities, compatibility with external accessories, high resolution, loads of control, etc. If you're just learning, I'd argue that photography is equal parts technical knowledge, intuition for composition, and editing skills... and you only really need a dedicated camera to develop some of the technical knowledge.
Lately I started to appreciate the 77mm telephoto more than the ultra wide. I hope they can improve the speed of the lens to be f1.8 since that would be sweet for portraits
Yes once the zoom lenses get a lot better I might fall in love with them more
Totally agree! That’s why I haven’t felt the need to upgrade my DSLR system. I mostly use my iPhone for videos for IG
Problem with iPhone (or phone in general) video is the overprocessing and oversharpening, as you mentioned. I can tell when a video was shot on a phone most of the times while watching on a small screen and every time I watch on a bigger screen. I just hate the oversharpening it does, I'd rather it kept a less sharp but natural looking image. This being said, I still shoot many of my videos on a phone because of how stable the footage is compared to my Sony a6400 (I don't have a gimbal yet). Good video!
What interests me is the commercial shown at 0:54 does not look oversharpenned and over processed unlike every single image that ever has come out of my iphone 13 pro max. I wonder how they do that, I guess they have a special camera app internally, I wish we had access to that.
@@definingslawek4731great observation, I missed that! Yeah, they definitely used Filmic Pro for that. It's the most used professional video app for iPhone, it even lets you shoot log and colour grade yourself in post. But it requires a monthly subscription :( apple could let us turn on or off sharpening for free but for some reason they don't. Same with the other phone makers
Even on a phone screen or for social media, I would still prefer a natural looking photo from a camera without intense HDR, sharpening and uncontrolled lens flare. To me, those ‘characteristics’ of a phone camera are like a beginner photographer trying so hard editing a photo but in a very unnatural way. I understand many people seem very much enjoy this ‘style’ and that’s good for them. But it’s not for me.
Phone screen only saves the problem of resolution, but there are a lot more than that when it comes to the quality of a photo.
To me they look like day and night. The iPhone has so much sharpening and processing making it look horrible. There are barely any settings and phones are an ergonomic nightmare.
ultra-wide lens is the greatest thing ever. Coming from the SE to recently upgrade to the 14 pro, it is actually insane
A 10 year old DSLR is still better than an iPhone
Maybe more than that like 5d classic 15+ years old,can beat any smartphone.
I’ve had my 14 Pro Max for a week now, upgraded from the 11 Pro Max. I’ve been mindblown for a week now haha.
Thanks to ProRAW, I’m no longer looking to buy a fixed point and shoot like the Ricoh GRIII. The telephoto lens has become my favorite lens hands down.
RAW on the new 48mp lens is lovely but considering how long each photo takes to process after the shutter is pressed it doesn't really touch a big camera that can rapid fire.
@@alimomenexactly 💯
@@alimomen You're right, but it's a compromise I'm wiling to take for the meantime. I hope the processing time for each photo decreases with the following generations.
As much as the 48mp sensor on the 14 Pro blows me away, I have been nothing but frustrated trying to get good photos compared to my 12 pro. The default camera app feels like you are constantly fighting against it to not produce a horribly over processed image and relying on 3rd party camera apps just isn't as good of a user experience as the stock camera. RAW shot with Halide is the best compromise but most of the time I want a simple, not totally blown out and AI processed jpeg, and I feel like I can't get that. Video on the other hand has been fantastic. The stabilization, the ultrawide lens upgrades, low light performance, and quality out of the main camera are just incredible.
I thought Jared Polin's demo of the 48 mpx sensor for portraits was inspiring. At last, great portrait quality from the phone, and an end to adobe clay skin.
Agreed. Whatever is happening processing wise these days has really been a degradation. You can even see it happening in real time - take a photo and then see it work through all this post processing to literally make the photo worse!
@@alimomen Yes this drives me nuts. When the image looks nice and then half a second later it turns into a super over sharpened mess. Does anyone know how to get it better?
@@matadormartin The only two options besides third party camera apps are shooting bursts with the volume button or by holding the shutter button to the left, or using live photo and then changing key photo
I have always been saying this, for vlogging(ultra wide angles) nothing beats the Iphone or the Gopro. It's light weight, better image quality on the go and doesn't really need a gimbal. For travelling, nothing beats the Iphone. When I travel with my Sony A7iv, I have to carry multiple lenses, a heavy gimbal, mics and what not. The only time I carry my camera setup is when I need a tight B roll for depth or for photography where I need the bokeh with my 105mm.
I'm a total amateur and I have a 14 Pro Max. Still, I bought myself an EOS m200 with a 22mm 2.0 pancake lens and everyone has been blown away with the photos I am taking compared to what people have with their iPhones. I think it has to do with bokeh? I think a landscape photo is hard to tell the difference but maybe what impresses people is the bokeh.
Real bokeh is always a special look and phones still can't quite compare
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Thanks for this video! I’m a musician and a bit of a hobbyist photographer/videographer. I have a Canon EOS R6 and have been trying to fumble around with an external recorder to bypass the record limit so I can film my concerts which at any given time I’m obviously playing way more than 30min at a time, usually closer to an hour but often 90 min.
It would be awesome to not have to ask somebody to hit start and stop on my cameras in the audience or drag a friend along to deal with it/have me worry about it while I’m playing music. So I’m trying to design a kit right now, where I can get a decent three camera shoot in reasonably low light conditions like concert venues and now I’m starting to think what if I just have one decent canon camera as a main camera and use two iPhones as different angles, used iPhone 11 or 12’s would be considerably cheaper than trying to get two or three new Canon mirrorless cameras, and lenses to keep up with them.
Honestly this channel doesn't feel like photography channel anymore. It's more tech stuff.
An iPhone is incredible at landscape shots and yes it edits the picture for me but I still would always take a raw file where can make the picture like I invisioned it
A phone camera will never be as sharp as a as DSLR simply because of the size of the aperture you can’t change the physics of light.
I should have turned off HDR a long time ago… Also, action mode is crazy. Might have to get an iPhone 15 Pro just to mess around with that. Kind of an eye opening vid for what the iPhone is really capable of.
How can you turn it off for photos i dont think so you can do it ios changed the settings
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Thanks for this. I get that full frame, raw, a camera, the physics will beat an iPhone hands down when compared, or a judged by a pro. But there is a cost, and a learning curve to the technical stuff…and on top of that there is the editing, and storytelling which is a whole other less black and white skill to learn. While learning the pro stuff, I enjoy honing my scenes and storytelling skills with an iPhone especially for travel and personal stuff. Capturing and sharing those memories shouldn’t have to wait for me to become a pro with tons of gear and proper lighting. It’s also much simpler when travelling with others who don’t have the time and patience for me to fiddle with big camera setup.
iPhone lenses are closer to 6mm. They are all ultra wide. This is why depth of field is so wide. DoF is proportional to 1/f^2. The focal length numbers Apple provides are their FF equivalents but this is only useful for comparing FOV. The lenses themselves are so wide they can only be used with small sensors because it would be impossible to avoid vingetting on larger format.
For me as photographer they went with the focal lengths the wrong way. 24mm on the standard lens is too wide in my opinion. I would much prefer a lens setup of 15mm, 28mm or 35mm and 85mm. It actually hold me back to buy the new one. I think also that the jpeg output since the Iphone 12 is worse than before. the jpegs are general a little too bright, over sharpened and especially the blues look very artificial. One of the benefits was once, that you could use the jpegs sooc and tweak it just a little for a preferred look.
I feel the same way. Many people use IPhone for family or pet photos, but honestly, 24mm is not a common focal length for those type of photos. If you take a close up shot, the faces will be so distorted, but when you take a environmental portrait using that focal length and zoom in, the image quality is then very disappointing. Fake HDR color is something we can edit in post, but editing every phone photo for better color? No, it’s not for me.
What do you think of the iPhone 15 then, get it or skip?
@@NetvoTV Always a tough question. It also depends what model you are using. If I had a well working 13/14pro I would probably skip it. If you want to upgrade I recommend to go for a pro model because of the prores raw mode and the three lenses. Be aware that the new focal lengths of 28mm and 35 on the new pro model are just digital corps from high resolutions images. The test images I saw so far are good but they look still oversaturated with a tendency to brown and yellow tones. The fake bokeh seems to look better on the new phones.
It used to be said the best camera is the one you have with you and you always have your phone with you.
I think ultrawide is more important, you can always zoom in afterwards, you can never zoom out to see what you missed, however I'd choose to have both tele and ultrawide before a blurry portrait mode or macro where there's a choice.
As you say you can be more creative with a phone, also you attract less attention.
Phone cameras are cool but it's not even close to anything that's APS-C or FF. iPhone photos just look overproccessed and have a certain look that most people can identify.
Oh and anything that's not ideal lighting conditions, a decent camera will absolutely destroy the iPhone.
Personally, I don't think we are anything close to making comparisons to an actual camera.
Underrated tip for Voice Memos app on iPhone, you can go into the iPhone settings and scroll down Voice Memos app > recording quality > Lossess (rather than compressed)
Can you do a Fold 4 and S23 Ultra review of their cameras
once apple updates the other lenses to match the quality of the wide it will be game changing 🙌🏼
That's my big hope for the iPhone 15, but I have a feeling they'll keep pushing that 1x to be way beyond the others
Iphones have definitely caught up to mirrorless photographer due to their digital processing, but certainly not for video in my opinion, at least in the professional world, for social media that is certainly up for debate. Dedicated cameras are meant to be shot in raw format with very high bit depth, and are way more flexible, Iphones are overall better for most people on social media like instagram mostly because of its easier usability great video quality. Great, but not better than full-frame cameras for professional work when it come to things like low light, flexibility in post, bitrate, bit depth, lens, depth of field, audio quality. there is capturing video, then there is capturing 'information', the latter of which will always produce a better image because it is done best by camera bodies and those who use them to the fullest, which is crucial. Full-frame cameras are not going anywhere anytime soon, at least in the professional film industry
I agree with this 100%.. I remember years ago when tourist would carry big heavy cameras, but over the years, more and more tourists are using Google Pixels and iPhones, which are lighter and produce image quality that are good enough!
Man , that action mode is insane . 2,8K is plenty.
Not possible! Then sell all your gear and turn up at film set with an iPhone mounted on a rig.
Phone video can be use for professional who works on social media only
I don't know what your monitoring environment is but the audio recorded from an iPhone microphone isn't 'kinda close' to professional quality. It sounds like what it is, i.e. a small and cheap microphone. The visuals are good... until you blow them up and view them on an actual monitor.
I can understand the appeal from a production point of view, but producing for the lowest common denominator leads to low quality media... although granted most people won't notice due to the ubiquitous use of smart devices.
just a quick correction MKBHDs "Auto Focus" isnt entirely shot on iPhone ive seen it shot with the latest pixel and galaxys too
We have been using the iPhone along side pro gear since the iPhone 11
So many pros are, it's the standard now
Computational photography/videography saves me tons of time in post not to mention shooting with a phone makes for better docs putting your subjects at ease compared to a big lumbering rig in their face.
Was this sponsored by Apple.... ?
Just bought a slider, tried all of my cameras with it, and decided to use my iphone on it for “c’ roll footage. Absolutely amazing.
It’s wild how much better the 13mm lens got with the 14pro .. they managed to get rid of all that awful noise and compression that plagued the iPhone 13s 13mm
I think the worst thing on an iPhone is the digital sharpening that you can’t turn off
I soak my case in coffee and wine every night before bed. Only way to get that rich case tone.
Watching the Dolby Vision HDR videos on the 1000nits Mini-LED XDR screen MacBook Pros is just amazing. I don’t know if I will get better results with it turned off..
I really hope the new telephoto lens in the 15 pro is at least a 105mm equivalent. The current one is too short.
One of the many iPhone ambassadors on youtube
I use the telephoto for photos and the ultra wide for videos.
It’s definitely telephoto. I almost never use ultra wide or even the standard wide. Telephoto is the only way to get portrait shots with no distortion. It’s the only “normal” camera lens on iPhone.
I disagree ! IPhone footage has a extra Orange look to it . Also Apple haven't fixed reflexions from the lenses . I believe the reflexion is coming from the flash
There is a shortcut you can download that gives you an option that can compress a RAW 48mp photo in to a smaller size jpeg and still keep the same high quality.
Telephoto is so superior. Also one big negative for iPhone footage is that it is STILL VFR. So frustrating that they have a whole cinema mode and can record ProRes but can’t get it at a constant frame rate.
This is exactly what I was considering 2 years ago, and in the end I actually decided to sell most of my pro equipment (it was easier for me because I am not a pro photographer - making photos or videos does not pay my bills); but I came to that conclusion, that the "hi-end" mobile devices (Android or iOS) - everyone knows which brands I am talking about, will be getting better and better every next year, taking more and more of the "big" pro-camera piece of the market in the future. Mobile devices are made in millions of pieces and that gives them a distinct advantage. These devices will simply win this "battle" in the future.
I would predict that this could happen within the next 10 years. With a small "pro" mobile device you can shoot anything anytime. You are "immediately" ready, while with a big pro camera, for a great shot you have to be ready (already) and waiting. That's the difference. Pro photographers with big cameras have to plan their shots, they have often bad luck of losing a shot or losing an opportunity to make a great shot, just because shooting with big pro camera takes a lot more time, especially when preparing the shot and everything. And it is a well known fact, that the best camera is the camera you have at hand, and I can add to it, that the best camera is also the camera which is immediately ready to shoot ... so the only difference which remains is the size of the sensor.
It's the physics that will never change. Indeed if you look at the "pro" market you'll see that most manufacturers are actually trying to go for bigger abd bigger sensors. 10-20 years ago most stills were APS-C and video was 2/3". Now most mirrorless cameras are "full frame" and video/cinema is either S35 or "full frame".
Phone has more dynamic range, but the iPhone in particular, can be so fake that a human can immediately tell. Iphone in particular, oversharpens the picture so much it looks like sxxx, and it got worse since the iPhone XS.
If your pictures are coming out worse than your phone using a dslr. Camera user error and lack of post processing knowledge sounds more like the issue.
The audio on the iPhone is amazing as well.
The aperture isn't f1.8 on a ff camera.
On a mft lens you have to double the f stop. I don't know what the ratio is on a smart phone, but I promise you that you won't get the same bokeh on a smart phone
iphone 14 pro main sensor has a crop factor of 4.38. so for example in order even to achieve f/2.8 full frame equivalent you would need a physical f/0.64 lens on the iPhone. impossible! on an iphone you need software blurring whenever you need to get faster than f/8.0 or even f/11 full frame equivalent.
You were very frank about it. I totally agree with what you said. Especially becoming more creative with the iPhone. I used to have a ZV-E10 and I just traded it for a ZV-1, as I wanted to keep that camera look and control. I wish I had a full frame though.
I can’t wait for the time when Apple starts to give us like 1” sensor and better/less over processed results. But as iPhones get better at computational photography, camera manufacturers will eventually have to deliver a better product as well. In the end, we consumers are the winners.
the ultra wide, with lens correction, in RAW is pretty amazing with the iphone. i use it as a companion camera/lens. however, i rather use my 24-105 f/4 or my 70-200 2.8 for everything else (i only use primes for special events).
Excellent video, Tyler. Totally agree; what's possible today using an iPhone is phenomenal, and that's only going to increase even more in the future. Will be checking out your other videos. You got a new subscriber!
As a photographer with both full frame camera and iPhone I have to disagree. Full Frame camera produces better images in most cases. You also have more control over exposure (choosing ISO, Aperture, and Shutter speed). Not so much with the iPhone.
I have iPhone 14 Plus and the phone ruins every single photo I take of with post processing.
To be fair, the Star Wars prequels were panned exactly because they were shot on digital before digital was ready for it and DV was used for only specific shots in 28 Days Later, it was mostly shot on film.
No way iPhone can compete with camera lenses. NO WAY. A question of science.
How does this hold up to newer vlogging cameras like the ZV-E1?
small formats are better for some things
THANK YOU! 😅 It's so hard to explain that to some people
@@stalmanYes, but it’s true. I have a Lumix g95 and a Lumix S5 and for macro photography I always use the g95 because the 1:1 is 2:1 with the Olympus 60mm macro lens. On the other side in low light situations I use the S5 for obvious reasons.
Yes, like shooting mobile journalism type things - kids up close working together in a classroom, and the depth of field of a small sensor lets me show the environment they're working in - other kids in the background, the look of the room, etc.
@@stalman extra dof for the same aperture or use a speedbooster for f stops that some people can only dream of and easier to avoid shake
Great video highlighting a lot of the key benefits to using iPhone, although it makes me sad to see my beloved pro cameras being slowly phased out. Also, props for being one of the few YT's to mention at 11:28 that HDR should generally just be turned off on iPhones for video. It's too much of a hassle in post and just not worth it ultimately. There's a funny scene in the new Alison Brie movie "Someone I Used to Know" where her character, who is a big shot reality TV host, is asked to shoot her friends wedding. The person who asks is like "we were gonna get his friend to do it but we know he'd blow it - how lucky are we a true professional is in town." I'm expecting Brie to show up with a DSLR or mirrorless camera, but what does she whip out for the wedding video? An iPhone 13 Pro. A true sign times are changing.
They’ll never be phased out, because while phone cameras are improving- so are professional cameras.
I honestly love the HDR option. I import all my footage into Premiere and then create a Rec. 2100 HLG sequence and at the end export it in Rec. 2100 HLG or PQ. Premiere handles HDR much better nowadays than it did before, I remember back in the day that even if you had an HDR display, you could not preview an HDR sequence without that Blackmagic box hardware. Now you can preview it on any HDR display before rendering without any additional hardware, just like you can with SDR sequences. HDR is huge for me, I consider it to be a lot more important than 8K. Having physically much brighter highlights and a wider colour gamut makes footage look a lot more life-like when seen on a true HDR display (like an OLED or Mini-LED display). I did some "tests" and pretty much everyone that watched an HDR vs a non-HDR video on my OLED display preferred the HDR one (even if they couldn't point out why). And best thing is that now most midrange and upper phones have HDR capable OLED displays!
I use the Google pixel and love it for stills but not so much for video.
iPhone are doing great but it's too simplified.
what pixel are you using that is not good for video? when i film a video people always like wow that looks great! iphone adds a yellow hue. I think at night iphone video is a little better. If your serious about recording you make sure the lighting is ideal for the situation.
I absolutely love your videos! Thank you so much
Good perspective. Thank you.
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I use the telephoto much more than ultra wide.
Your points convinced me that an iPhone will never be as good as a real camera...
It would be great to see how you organise your iPhone to manage the videos you take. Footage so easily gets mixed up with day to day photos etc plus you can’t label in the photos app afaik. Even creating albums and adding to there is a cumbersome process…..I kinda thing the dedicated SD card is a lot simpler and easier to import into the computer . It feels like there must be a better way on the iPhone to organise content creation media. Thanks
I’m just not usually shooting both work and fun at the same time, so I transfer everything from the day to my computer
This is the Video I needed.
Have a little Fomo about the Phone Filmmaking vs Good Old A7III Filmmaking...😅
Hey Tyler, awesome video as always!, one off-topic question… which band are you using in your Apple Watch? It looks sick as well
Oh man i love this band, it’s the Nomad titanium. Just started working with them, they’re sponsoring the next video nomadgoods.com/stalman
Great Video. As much as I want to use my mirrorless FF the convenience of a 14 Pro, especially when I am already lugging kids stuff around, is always the way. Also what is that slick band of your Ultra watch? Thx
So the iphone lenses are better than Leica? Sony G Master etc?
Not "better" but absolutely more versatile
Get the Tamron 18-300!!!
For telephoto and macro shots, you still need big cameras and lenses to do a decent job
When you need to make a phone call, the iPhone has a slight advantage..... in my opinion, of course.
What I’m LOVING about your content is taking that stigma away of being “lazy” for using an iPhone
Thanks for watching 🙌 anyone who stigmatizes phone photography is a snob
Since you’re so happy with iPhones, show up with only an iPhone in your next session.
MKBHD has a few videos shot on Pixel and S23 on his Auto Focus channel
All sales talk.
I use 77mm tele lens much more than ultra wide macro. Love both, the reason I traded my 12 ProMax in for the 14 ProMax, rather than waiting my usual 3 years to upgrade. Now hoping 15 ProMax gives us Sony 3X to 6X optical zoom rather than creating 48MP sensor for 3X Tele and cropping in like Apple does on 1X.
Interesting title and video. I guess your statements holds for the absolute majority of the population. But for the industry and enthusiasts like me I don't think a phone size sensor will replace FF and beyond for many decades. In all lighting conditions my 600/4 will be superior on my ff's e g. Now and 2050. And there are reasons to why Phase One and Hasselblad still sells. Stack 23 150mp with the former and print large and you realize it's a universe between the sensors and glass.
Are you going to do Samsung galaxy s23 ultra camera review?
Few comments. Filmic pro : Swindlers! I bought and payed for the pro version. 7 months later i got a mail that i have to pay AGAIN, and now each year! You dont want to pay, again, it stops working. So they stole back the app you bought and payed for.
I was kind of waiting you mentioning the flickering when making video, thats been on the iphone for 3 years already. When shooting large objects in the same color (like a grass field, or trees in a forrest), the whole picture starts "flickering". Still no solution for that or how to prevent it.
I have yet to take a "good photo" on my iPhone, even when I try, I still don't like it.
Should I take camera lens cover or it's safe with case
Thanks for the clearance man!!!
As someone that goes out of his way to not use my iphone to record memories, this was very interesting. Thank you.
I have an iPhone because of the ultra wide. Big fan.
Great video - subscribed and I look forward to watching more of your videos - thank you!
Google Pixel 6 and 7 you can lock wb exposure and focus independently or together. Googles in camera software really is excellent for fast work.
Yes I love that on Google, that feature should be standard
Telephoto is a MUSTTTTTTT absolutely necessary for pictures of power-points while in class 8:05
The only issue with iPhone video footage is that the audio is always slightly to the left.
Well most smartphones these days take several picture and combine it as one , hence higher dynamic range , awesome in lowlight , etc
off-topic comment - you mentioned iCloud - I wish there was a single switch on settings that would prevent the phone from copying my videos to iCloud, I just need the photos to backup.
idk why i know iphone pics are amazing i have a 14 pro max but i just cant get myself to use it for pics i have a T7i and I feel like i have way more control with it vs iPhone and that i can be more creative with a camera and lens. anyone else feel the same? curious
what software you use for editing photos ?
I use the ultra wide more often than telephoto on my phone, the zoom is still just not very good imo
Dammit, man! Now I'm wondering if I should just sell off my Sony A7C and put it towards paying off my iPhone 14 Pro Max. Not even joking - I really do have more fun shooting with my iPhone while my camera tends to sit at home unless something super important comes up. I don't shoot as professionally as much anymore - most of the stuff I shoot is just personal stuff for social media - and the reasons you listed here make such a great case for just using what you have on you - in my case, my iPhone.
I faced the same question, more or less. I have the 14 Pro and a Canon R6. Thing is, the R6 can do things the 14 Pro can't come close to - like taking amazing face shots of dancers, speakers, singers, instrumentalists, theater, etc. I'm sometimes tempted to sell the EF 135mm F/2 because I could use the $600 for x, y, z. But - no way. L glass with a full-frame sensor can show people's character far more clearly and in microdetail than the phone. Also, for movement in low light the R6 sensor and 135mm F/2 are amazing, and the photos are hugely croppable, giving me the equivalent of a 400mm F/2. No kidding, the cropped pics look wonderful. Also, the EF 24-105 L is an amazing bargain. People tend to forget what a wonderful lens it is, just because it was sold as a "kit lens" and there are so many of them around. And the R6 stabilizes the 135! Perfect for low-light performances where a slow shutter speed is okay. I now think of the phone as a wonderful tool for video, especially in Cinematic mode which lessens the unnatural digital sharpening, and also as a storytelling camera where close-up character shots are less important than capturing a general impression - an activity, a fun event, etc. Both are huge fun in their own ways; it isn't either-or, it's both-and. They are specialty cameras, which is a very good thing. People need to get away from the notion that one camera should do everything brilliantly. Not in the present state of tech.
Maybe novelty is a factor, but I have an XT30 with a few lenses but it and the 27mm pancake comes basically everywhere for me, I hardly shoot on my 13p anymore. Really compact setup.
Which DJI mics are those?