Falling from the Sky at Over 18,000 Feet per Minute | The Plane That Flew Too High
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- While flying at 33,000 ft, West Caribbean Airways flight 708's speed, gradually decreased until the aircraft operating the flight entered an aerodynamic stall. Find out what really happened.
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It's insane how this keeps happening. The moment the stall warning comes on, you pitch down, recover air speed, level out. You don't have time to request or wait for altitude change from ATC, you're dropping out of the sky already!
Maybe they should have performed a pan-pan call and begun to descend without ATC permission. It was an emergency. But the main fault belongs to airway company. How come a company doesn't inform their pilots about the manufacturer's bullet-in? Informing pilots won't cost anything, but not doing this costs lives!!! Airway company bankrupted but how about its executives? Were they judged? They led deaths by conscious negligence.
totally bro, if i was a pilot i'd totally ditch the plane down
How does one fail to “recognize the deep stall situation” when the plane is literally yelling at you, “STALL! STALL! STALL!”???
Im wondering what would happend if the ATC refuse the request to descend to lower altitude level. Did this stop the stall ?
Kind of joking here ofc. Im still really confuse on how this kind of accident keep happening.
I was thinking the same thing
"The captain had been forced to moonlight as a bartender to provide income for his family"
That's insane!!!
A few years back I saw that happening in the US. Some were sleeping in storage rooms at airports to save money!!
similar case with the tired colgan air (Q400) pilots who bar tended flew across the country to do those night flights...
What? Pilots who don't understand the aircraft position? What the fuck is that all about. Now, not only do I have be worried whether some yokel did not complete the assembly correctly, but now fucking pilots, who I depend to keep me alive while in flight, don't know their own aircraft. That is saying, well I did not know that my car's steering wheel was for turning or changing lanes, I thought it was just to grab something while the vehicle moved.
@@ew4096 WAIT!!! What? And all this time I thought the car steered by majic! ;) Hmmm...Push stick forward, houses get bigger. Ok. Pull stick back, houses get smaller. Got it. Pull stick WAY back...HOUSES GET BIGGER!!!!!!!!!!
@Luc B The statement is totally false. The captain was not FORCED to moonlight. The airline was operated as a charter line, so flights weren´t regular. Many factors came to play that contributed to the accident.
These are the sort of accidents that make the blood boil. Totally preventable, a crew which obviously can't communicate with each other, and an airline that should have been grounded years ago. Brilliantly told as always by TFC, you guys make my Fridays!
Another Great Video by my Fav Channel! How these POS So called ‘Airlines’ not only stay in business but get certified to fly in the first place is unbelievable! That the Owners/Operators of this fly by night organization didn’t do serious prison time is a miscarriage of Justice! RIP to All...
@@White742 And you can also find the fantastic video representation of the event in Wikipedia as well can you? I think not
@@White742 Speak for yourself TFC has a massive following
@@White742 Check out the following figures for both channels and you will find TFC has a far bigger audience. If you don't like it, don't come on, you have a free choice
what makes you the expert? go ahead and tell us what that recent Ethiopian flight could have done differently. go on expert save lives.
If the pilot's also bartending just down the terminal at the Gilligan's Tavern and only has to change his apron for a Caribbean Airways captain's jacket and trot over a few gates to board, I'll skip the charter and shell out for for a regular airline that doesn't shop its planes in the Bone Yard!
The age of the plane was fine, regardless of getting it from the boneyard. MD-82s still continue to fly to this day. Delta still flew DC-9s until 2014!! And a DC-9 is an older version of the MD-80 series.
@Jay C Why would you think that? He criticized the shopping of planes in the Bone Yard very plainly
But you could help in case of emergencies if you watch more of these addictive videos! 😆 🌪️🌨️✈️🌨️🌀
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yeah, but you would have to know that beforehand in order to make that decision. maybe if you were lucky, you were at Gilligan's getting a drink from said bartender, and happened to strike a conversation with him. found out he was going to be your pilot as well, that he hadnt been paid in months by the airline.
then you could merely go over and get a partial to full refund of your ticket, and seek air travel from another source.
For those who don't know, a deep stall is when the aircraft has lost all forward momentum and is dropping tail first. It is very difficult to recover from as the only remedy is to somehow get the nose down, then hope you can get enough airspeed to bring the nose up again and get lift from the wings. Deep stalls are more common in t-tailed aircraft due to shadowing of the air flow from the wings to the tail under certain conditions. When airspeed drops enough, lack of airflow to the tail causes it to drop and you're in a deep stall.
Well depicted.
I'm not a pilot or anything, but from what I've seen on TFC, I know that you DO NOT pitch the nose up during a stall
Also asking ATC for decend while in deep stall also a bad idea
glad that you learn it from flight channel..just like me.
I wonder if flaps out would have helped. it might have pushed the nose down.
You need to push down and max engine power, also great idea to turn right(or left) as much as possible like 90 degree, it will lower nose = more speed, at least it works in flight simulators
@@antsky371 I think banking with a large heavy plane might be difficult when there is no air hitting the control surfaces. I think it also sounds risky, might drive the plane into a spin
This are always so sad to watch but I’m addicted
We all are.
Me too! Now am afraid to fly
Really hard to tell people about these too without coming off as psychotic I have found out lol
@@AldairEllis Dw bro, planes are extremely safe and these types of crashes rarely happen nowadays
@@goatbacon2977 Right, I don't even tell my husband that I watch these!
I guess that pilots don't get adequate stall training these days. Recognizing and preventing a stall and then recovering from a stall is one of the first things I was taught during my basic flight training. Great video FlightChannel, I love them all.
I think there's over dependency on the autopilot system
Michael Schroeder I heard stalls normally are fatal and recovering from them has a minimal chance.
@@junaidanwar999 you could easily recover from those altitudes
Stall Training has changed in the last 2 years. It is now excellent and pilots are given a variety of scenarios: altitude, attitude, speed from which to recover. Obviously, this is not the case at startups and small charter airlines. Hopefully, these changes will be implemented worldwide, specially in third world countries with fewer resources and limited pilot experience..
That's the thing I don't get. The pilot didn't realize they were in a stall? What about the stick-shaker and the voice calling out "Stall!" every couple of seconds? Maybe they expected one of the wings to stall/drop first?
First thing a flight instructor told me: If you are in a stall, drop the nose. Ever damn time. I don't care how low you are, airflow over the wings gives you control, airflow waffling around the wings gives you nothing but a sinking feeling.
*Lit up word "STALL" in big red letters*
*Voice shouting "Stall! Stall!"*
FO: Captain, we're stalling
Captain: No we're not! Pull back more!
Seriously, as soon as you hear stall, nose it down, full power, problem solved.
captain sucked as a pilot
It's not totally blame of the pilot, they unfortunately were not paid before West Caribbean bankrupt and they had to work extra hours to get money in other non-related pilot positions, so at the time of the crash they couldn't sleep before the flight.
Stall recovery is so basic and it's burned into the brain of every pilot. I can't imagine how confused and exhausted the poor guy was to pull back on the controls.
it's not that simple you know
Those poor passengers............I can't imagine the uncertainty and confusion and terror from them going down so fast
they'd have died instantly so not too bad
Especially the one in cockpit jump seat.
@@EazyDuz18 it took 3 minutes to drop, they had some time to think before they hit I fear. Luckily the end was quick but having that thinking time saddens me so much. I don't fear death itself, I fear a painful or slow one though.
@@batsonelectronics That must have been like 7,000 hours in real time.
@ I doubt that. They would be basically free falling with just the wind resistance of the plane falling keeping them from terminal velocity. I would think they would have that free fall feeling inside. I hope not or that other things occupied their minds so they didn't see it coming, but I doubt it. I really really hope they didn't feel it but I am pretty sure they would have if they paid attention to the feeling.
STALL = NOSE DOWN IMMEDIATELY. You may not trust the speed indication because of icing, but the altimeter cant lie, if you fall and your speed is low NOSE DOWN. Lesson #1
The altimeter can lie for a number of reasons, one of which is the same reason your airspeed may be unreliable. Both rely on the static port.
@@HotrunVideo nah altimeters are usually fed by pitot tubes. Which are a manual system. Most aircraft have multiple pitot tubes for redundancy
@@limbeboy7 pitot tubes feed ram air for airspeed measurement when compared to the static port values. Altimeters are static port only. There's nothing in ram-air/airspeed that relates to altimeter. There are multiple pitots as you say, and also multiple static ports for the same reason.
Wait I just commented about this earlier too... I didn’t copy
limbeboy7 Air France Flight 447 crashed because of blocked pitot tubes. 🤷♂️
youtube is getting too comfortable with these double ads
just download Adblocks on you browser and you'll be alright
Adblock doesn’t work on app on phone
Because they are trying to pester everyone to get their premium service. If ads get too many I just stop watching and move on
use youtube vanced, wayyyy better
@@adamstone5865 RUclips Vanced but do know you are also taking these youtubers income away doing that
An airline captain being forced to work on the side to feed his family is something i didnt think it was possible. Wtf
fokkin Accountants
That's what you call greed!
yay capitalism!
@@egregiousqueef7781 Yay communism
Plane : Hey man i'm stalling
Pilot : What's a plane ?
Lucas Zoia glol
OMG 😷😂🤣
69 likes,nice
Plane to pilot what are you smoking man
Lucas !!! 😵😵😵🙄🤔✔✔
A stall is not a joke. Every aircraft has got its own characteristics and in different conditions they react differently. In an emergency the most important thing is how the crew reacts to a situation and that depends on his skill and training.
I am looking forward to a world where flight isn’t a crapshoot on whether or not the pilots are competent. Bring on for automation and safety will increase tenfold or better. The pilots and their union are murderers
@@steveperreira5850 mUrDeReRs
How sad, this reminded me of the Air France Rio-Paris with a poor stall recovery during a storm, but again, it's not the storm who made the plane crash... Pilot error again 😔
like AirAsia 8501
Pilot went for rest and copilot coordination was blamed for the same...as he kept the nose up which led the crash
Whenever I see the stall warning turn on, I always think of the clowns on AF447 who did everything they could to insure that their plane would bellyflop into the Atlantic.
@@scottlarson1548 I would like to see you on the flight deck of an A330 in a storm with unreliable airspeed, stall warning, overspeed warning, and many other great stuff coming from a computer which tries its best to confuse the flight crew.
And all of that in the middle of the night without the captain in the cockpit.
You are the only clown here !
@@lorisguerrero4404 So you believe it's impossible for two experienced pilots to prevent an undamaged A330 from bellyflopping into the Atlantic? Please tell me that you aren't a commercial pilot!
BTW, if you are having trouble understanding what's happening in the cockpit and are jerking the controls around just to see what happens, *please* summon the captain immediately, not two minutes before you're about to crash the plane.
0:52 I thought this said " The aircraft operator is an 18 year old McDonald's employee"
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Haha
Lol same
18 yearnold McDonald's Double Mc82
"Wow, this is way more complex than the deep fryer"
recovering from a stall is basic training. I am about to do my commercial flight test and one of the first thing I learned during my private is to recover from different types of stalls. I promise that when i'll get you to your holidays I will get you to destination safely lol
You can't say things in hindsight of this catastrophe. Pretty easy to become disoriented in a stall.
@@elijahdjali True, but this one seems like gross incompetence. They did nothing textbook to correct the stall. In fact, he just assumed his engines were burned out.
sadly some think yanking back on the yoke will accomplish something just like some folks assume stomping the gas pedal of their car as it runs out gas will keep it running
Justin Auger I'm in your plane now and all I can hear is pull up pull up stall stall
The unnecessary "lol" tho
Having experienced a near crash that inevitably stopped us flying for about 20 years, I now understand so much more by watching your videos. Thank you so much!!
RUclips this is TFC flight 804, requesting clearance to 1,000,000 subscribers.
lol
Brilliant.
Found this channel the other night and can't stop watching. It's brilliant.
OMG , LOL😂
The music you play at the end really makes what happened hit home. It's so sad that all those people died. Life is crazy.
Honestly was just watching older videos you made, and saw this pop up. The quality has changed a lot since then, and still love your videos. Love that new logo btw!
Moonlighting as a bartender! A qualification I wouldn't like my aircraft pilot to possess . Most pilot error incidents have a legacy of crew resource mismanagement resulting from inadequate training and cutting corners by the airlines and the manufacturers.
1st time a flight needed MCAS.
KING KARANVEER ikr
Right.
True dat
True dat 2
I'm dumb, what is this MCAS you speak of?
So almost identical to the Air France disaster then.
Kind of in the way the pilots handled the situation
Both went into flat spins. The difference was the A-F crew was flipping through the checklist to find an answer all the way down while the PIC was having nookie back in the cabin...
the_punnisher they didn’t spin
@@tomstravels520 they fell out of the sky..... because of stalling
Kiril Mihaylov yes but a flat spin is what happened in Top Gun
Congrats on 800K, man. Get on to Flight Level 1 million, you deserve it.
Underrated, underrated indeed!
It's 2023, they're past 1 mil subs 😎
I feel so sorry for Captain and F/O for what kind of side jobs they went through to survive and then suddenly they died so tragically. My heart cried as they didn't get a happy ending and spent their life struggling along with their last moments as well..
I just want to say watching your channel has really helped me get closure to the death of a good friend. She died in a small plane crash due to pilot error and it was just her and the pilot. Some of our group from hs visit the crash site and are in close communication with her parents. I always think to myself why did it have to be her? But learning about the cause of plane crashes somehow helps me accept it. Idk I’m just rambling now but yeah.
When the anti-icing was switched on, bleed air from one or both engines is redirected to the leading wing edge reducing engine thrust. This must be compensated, and clearly, it was not.
This, god damn it, this is the comment I was looking for, I understood everything except why the anti-ice system would reduce engine power, thank you so much!
You're on the money. Another channel covering a China airliner bound for LA experience a bleed air problem that caused a stall and similar flame out characteristic and the aircraft recovered but suffered major damage to tail and landing gear compartment from the uncontrolled dive.
Thank you! I was trying to determine how or why anti-icing caused loss of power. I was trying to Google it when I saw your post. Much appreciated info, kind sir.
Before flying, carefully review the airline’s financial statmensts. RIP
@Claudio Sevlacc
Charter planes are ALWAYS suspect if you ask me. I would never want to fly on one if I absolutely didn't have to.
Best advice in the comment section.
Most are in debt though
Can you tell me why? I'm sorry I'm afraid to fly but I will have to fly in another year or so and I just want to know. Sorry for asking.
@@Doritheexplori you probably shouldn’t watch these videos lol. Don’t forget flying is the safest form of transport. Good luck
When you forget today is Friday,
and then TheFlightChannel reminds you with an upload :)
*whoop whoop stall*
Captain: "yea that’s not a stall, let’s pull up the nose a bit more"
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Really miss the emotional piano soundtracks. Those were truly the soul of your videos, mate. I still love your videos though.
Agree the older music suited the events a lot better tbh
The same
True
Yeah
Sometimes I search for the old ones just to live the piano scores
Man....I LOVE how realistic and clear the airplanes instrument panels are!! Also, just the airplane in general is so life like!
Keep up the fine work. I love watching this channel and have subscribed!!
Once again TFC has, through mesmerizing story telling and spot-on production values, told the little-known story of how the simple errors in this flight resulted in heartbreak for hundreds. Needless corporate greed contributed to this tragedy much more than a pilot's stubborn mistake. RIP all.
grommy1234 unfortunately the company greed thing did not contribute to this tragedy. At all. A pilot who cannot recognize and recover from a stall is not airworthy. Period. Nothing else matters. It’s not something you “forget.” The pilot error here is unimaginable. Stall recovery is lesson #1 in flight school. Literally. A “captain” who pulls back on a stick and flies a stall to their doom has a special place in hell. So far above any of the airline’s mistakes. Pilot error plain and simple.
@@hunterhicks77 Exactly. A drunk, drugged, no sleep pilot know STALL = NOSE DOWN NOW. Idiot pilot.
Forcing your pilots to moonlight as bartenders isn't "corporate greed", it's "third world kleptocrat greed". Big corporations know the value not paying the catering bill can have on their reputation.
I watched another video on this crash, but yours is vastly superior.
Your graphics are kick ass, I really enjoyed he backstory on the aircraft and your detailed images of the instruments really blew me away. Well done!
You are my new favourite air disaster channel.
I love the way the airlines try to blame pilots. They would even have blamed Sully who expertly landed his plane in the hudson without one casualty. What about them using old planes with engines about to blow out ? Can we ever look at that part of the problem?
That was my exact comment so easy to blame the pilots.
These are really well done vids,no annoying narrators,and over dramatization,thanks for the informative and captivating uploads.
Shouldn;t it be muscle memory to lower the nose when you hear the stall warning and see your airspeed low?
a Jones yes can you tell me why we keep seeing this happen with commercial airline pilots?
@@hunterhicks77 Keep happening? Only other one that I know off is the Air France crash
@@tygervoods8358 that's still two too many though
True, but if you’re high enough, pitching up while stalling shouldn’t make it unrecoverable.
@@tygervoods8358 And Pulkovo 612, Colgan 3407, Dynasty 676 and many, many more.
All yokes aside, it usually never ends well when you see the words ~STICK SHAKER~
In aviation. Things that shake aren't good (except stewardess in the galley)
Savage 😬
@John Cena none at all
John Cena Quit stalling, you know the pun was in the air
John Cena I used to get grounded for making too many aviation puns, but now I just let fly with them
R.I.P. To all cabin crew and passengers who lost their life in this tragic crash 💔
Emojis in an eulogy? Very fitting. What's next, a meme on a tombstone? This fucking generation is doomed.
@@twisted_nether373 seek help
Can't imagine the passenger's minds and felling when the plane was descending that fast 😞
Many should have fainted due to g force
Hey you're the ATC right?
@@thebaguettecompany yes. I am
@@cauebraga How do you do? :)
@@thebaguettecompany I'm fine! A
The content of this channel is incredible, obviously the subject covered is heart wrenching but the amount of work that is put into their videos is incredible.
So much negligence by management in situations like this. People should have gone to prison for this
I miss The old intro tho
Gabriele Tapang yea it struck something inside
Gabriele Tapang the one with the gold font coming from the side was my personal favorite.
Me too
I loved this one but the old one gave me chills.
@@nikkihenry6789 yeah i miss the chills tho
So many people needlessly had to die for the airways to learn their lesson 😔 so much suffering. RIP to the victims and condolences to their families 💔
i flew for my first time 2 years ago by myself and it was a liberating and happy experience. i was terrified before but i prayed and trusted God. i need to stop watching these videos because it will literally make me paranoid and i have plans on traveling.😩. this is freaking terrifying. you’re literally free falling from the sky.
No you should watch them more & never fly. Cause there are all kinds of mistakes being made all the time and you never know when another plane will go down.
That awful moment when you hear the crunch of metal, the blank screen and you close your eyes for a moment and say Oh God No. Thank you for the video TFC. RIP.
There is no sound of crunching metal, just a loud boom from the explosion and vibrations on the ground.
@Carol Morris
Actually for some reason I thought there would be a miracle in this case early on. All the crew had to do to mitigate the stall was push the stick down to gain speed and slow or stop the stall.
The CAEAC grounded West Caribbean Airways just ONE day after the crash. Meanwhile, Boeing and the FAA require months and TWO fatal crashes to take action and are the LAST in doing so... This is the epitome of regulatory capture in American.....
This one terrified me! Just imagining the falling.... so so scary. The video was so beautifully edited that I could clearly imagine I was on that plane - incredible work! What an amazing simulator too, you have to credit it. Love your videos, alway come back to them no matter how busy I get! xx
I doubt you would feel anything abnormal while the descent rate is relatively constant. It‘s the transition between level flight and the descent that would upset your stomach.
The MD-80 has such an intimidating stall warning! How were the pilots STILL unable to register it?
Pitched up for the entire stall descent? That’s crazy.
That is not expected coming. Flying too high means there is a coffin zone where planes stalled down into the ground. Overall amazing video dude, hope you will get 1 million subscribers soon :D
Addicted to this channel.
Now I worry I'll never fly again. I know too much now
Something's not clear here: the reconstruction here shows that the stall alert was constantly sounding... so why didn't anyone understand they had to put the plane nose down???
When the stall alert is sounding the first thing you try to do is to overcome the stall, am I wrong here?
You are not wrong, they did not practice their stall recoveries enough, so they resorted to the natural reaction which is to pull back on the yoke rather than good training that gets you to put the nose down to gain some speed and control
"The airline went bankrupt in 2015"
this made my day! Never been happier to hear s.o go bankrupt!
Minh Nguyen 2005!! Not 2015.
2005
So very sad to see any plane crash and should never happen because of pilot error. Prayers for all the loved ones. Shalom my brother Shalom.
My brother in law was a pilot and also a flight instructor. He said nearly all plane crashes are due to pilot error. Very few are mechanical/computer errors.
Watching the flight channel should be mandatory for all pilots as part of their training! I'm no pilot but through countless hours on this channel i now know what not to do in case of a stall!! May all the passengers and crew RIP
Captain heard stall warning and pulled nose up? Sometimes I don't understand how things like this happen.
Me neither, i'm a spanish speaker, i'm not a pilot, but i TOTALLY know what stall means, and what you are supposed to do when you hear the sound alarm. It's just incredible to me how this can happen.
Nose down dumbass! I dont get it?
@@MegaTechpc exactly thats the point. nose down to recover, yet the pilot pulled the nose up even further in a stall situation ...
It is not about the Nose Up or Down, what is important is that you PUSH. This un stalls the aircraft, un loads it and gets it flying again, then you can deal with the roll, thrust, etc... But PUSHing is what is important.
pedrosura that’s what pilots mean when they say “nose down,” they mean PUSH down on the yoke/stick.
Imagine what those pilots were thinking for the last three minutes as they were plummeting out of control towards death.
he is thinking why the engine not perfom in its max thrust even the accelerator on max setting.
he forgot to correct the airplane orientation..he should bring the plane nose down so the airspeed increase and have greater lift
He was probably thinking, "This thing flies so much more erratically than my other helicopter!" - j q t -
Hyerin Jun you’re pinky finger is a better pilot than this captain was
I can't tell from this story if they even knew the severity of the situation they were in before it was too late. To go from flying to crashing in 3 min sounds unreal to me.
Imagine what the passengers and back end crew were thinking...
The last time I traveled by plane, I was in a slightly smaller plane than usual, so the movements that the plane made felt more than if I were traveling in a larger one. In the part of the ascent, the aircraft descended a little to accommodate its position, I think, and it really felt horrible, it was like an adrenaline rush in the chest and feeling that you were completely falling, even though it barely descended a few meters, although it seemed to me that it was going down a lot more than it should have, as if those two minutes had been transformed into an hour. If that's how that felt, I don't want to imagine what those people must have felt; the sensation of descending and not stopping at any time, indeed, starting to go faster and faster.
Same here
>"correctly diagnosed as a stall"
>The plane is literally yelling that it's stalling
Flight 708 hits ground at over 13,000ft/min
Meteor that destroys dinosaurs and pre-historic life: Am I a joke to you?
So many things that went badly. The pilots should have been informed of the bulletin. It's better to have extra knowledge than not enough in order to recognize issues with the plane. Very sad and tragic indeed. What a helpless feeling for everyone in the aircraft. Just watching my level of stress is affected. As usual well done by the Flight Channel
You're doing a great job !
Stay blessed 😎
Where did these pilots train, on their toilets??? Even worse is the slackness of the airline. Such a waste of life
I literally love this channel ,it informs me about plane crashes whenever I don't know! It's so helpful !
A 21 year old Co-Pilot with only 1341 flying hours? I thought minimum was 1,500 to get in a passenger plane?
They changed it to 1500 hours after the crash of the colgan air 3407 in 2009. Before you could get in with a lot less hours and you still can in some countries, it's only US that has the 1500 hour rule.
I saw "21" and feared for everyone's lives. Its like driving in a car with a 14 year old. Was he wearing a big "trainee" hat?
21 is still old enough for a restricted ATP in the US even after the 2013 changes
The 21 yr old actually recognized the stall he just didn't take action
@Shawtyknows Respectfully, where is "here," so I can not go "there?" Lol
"Investigators concluded that the pilots failed to monitor their instruments."
What on earth are they doing in cockpit during the night instead than watching instruments ?!? Can an airliner pilot explain me how it's possible ?
What they were doing is called bullshitting. It is disgusting that so many pilots don’t pay attention, And they don’t train rigorously enough, then something goes wrong and they kill everyone on board due to their incompetency.
160 Upvotes, 0 Downvotes. Well done.
It was very so sad, memba this like it was yesterday. Big up for your hard work!! From a martinican brother. Martinique nou la👋
What I’ve learned from this is, NEVER keep pulling the nose upwards while stalling. Never underestimate stalls. When ENG 1 & 2 fails try to gain speed and put flaps to about 10.
The STALL warning is red and loud for a reason.
The crew demonstrated epic incompetence and lack of basic airmanship, much less the skill required of professional airline pilots with thousands of hours of "experience"...
It is beyond sad that 158 other people died due directly to their ineptitude.
Those passengers must have been terrified. Especially if some weren’t wearing seatbelts if imagine they experience zero gravity during the fall
I'm not sure if they would have. When the AF447 A330 was in a deep stall falling at ~10,000 feet/min, the captain was able to return to the captain almost soon after the copilots called him for assistance.
@BM
I feel so sorry for their fear in the last few minutes of their lives, thinking that this is it so suddenly. God speed to them, and condolences to their families.
You do an amazing job creating content. I'd never heard of this crash before and was struck by the eerie similarities to AF447.
You are the best!
ComboBcz he/she isnt talking about u lol
@ComboBcz he can't give you a heart because it's not his channel. q8pilot! Only the TFC can do that here.
@ComboBcz But ok, good to his channel and ask for one. This is The Flight Channel not q8pilot's channel. Was just trying to help you. And you don't get it. Only TFC can give hearts on this channel. That's how it works. If you don't understand that then look it up or ask someone else. I wasn't trying to be mean it's just how it works. You Tube rules!
ComboBcz oml this is ridiculous.
You are at a bar when your bartender says, when my shift ends at 8:00, I'll be flying a commercial jet. Response: ya, right buddy.
Speed is life.. Love these videos! Thank you for making them.
Another great video from TFC, as always
That must have been one hell of a last, terrifying ride for this passengers.
Age 21 with over 1300 hours of flight.. wow
I am retired military, and since retirement in 2002, I’m an RN. I will tell you that I have SO MUCH respect for pilots!! My brain would not handle all that it takes to learn and fly a plane, whether it’s a huge giant passenger plane, or just a small private 2-4 person plane. I don’t think I could do it. Much respect!! 👍👍
What makes me really mad and upset is when I’m watching this channel and learn that hundreds are killed in the most horrific way because of pilot negligence and/or incompetence, it makes me so angry!!
I’ve seen times when it’s mechanical and not the pilots fault. But there are times that the pilots are either lazy, or totally incompetent and should have NEVER been able to fly a plane!
So sad.
After watching countless of these videos, I've noticed a terribly scary pattern: (1) the pilot makes a wrong input (2) the autopilot disengages (3) there's confusion in the cockpit and more wrong inputs (4) the airplane stalls (4) the airplane crashes. I have yet to see one recover a stall.
It's only the ones that don't recover from a stall that you hear about.
these videos are always well done. cant wait to see how good they look once the new flight sim comes out.
RIP to al of the people
That reminds me of the Air France 447 accident in 2009:
The pilots could have avoided the crash by pulling down the nose and gently push the thrust when the altitude was still high enough to do so. Unfortunately they did not realize the situation ... :(
Man these videos really show how quick an emergency can turn into a disaster. It’s like dominoes in a line, when it comes to mistakes and bad luck.
I’ve always been so scared of lanes so these videos are not helping but I’m addicted!
The warning alert scared me at first.
That was unnerving. I don't like the tone or the little Japanese computer voice.
TFC new video, I am excited :D
As Always....
*10/10*
I really like these for many reasons. The lives of all those brave souls lost are remembered every time one of these videos are watched, I pray for all the best to them and their families
Man this dudes channel is legit. I feel like I’m a part of it
Unbelievable realism, another great crash investigation video, very well done. Have a great weekend.
Thanks a lot man. You too!! 😊😊
Very sad. Forget the radio, disconnect the AP, push that nose down and get those engines going. Great work TFC
I'm not a pilot and I haven't flown my MSFS for years but I think even I would put the nose down to avoid stalling, even if I need to glide, and then sort things out from there.
I’ve been on many flights because I’m former military. Every flight was uneasy, especially the long flights overseas. I’ve had a hard time controlling my fear, but this channel helps me come to terms with the possibility of the very possible inevitability of plane crashes.
I never got that, considering that ladders, cars, bicycles and WALKING are more dangerous than a plane.
I don't like them, either, but in general, they're a lot safer mechanically than any car. You read Unsafe at Any Speed about how the steering column made human shish-kabobs on impact? Well, not much has changed in automaker's liability...
We have seat belt failures (unspooling, not staying locked or ripping entirely), air bags decapitation small, short people. Seat backs failing (Hello, FORD Escort!) and crushing kids in the back for a minor fender bender. Tire blow-outs (again, FORD), Takata air bags blowing up in people's faces due to corrosion (either stainless or use lead, pick one). The Pinto. AGAIN FORD, who repeated the damned Pinto on the Grand Marquis. Burning a number people to death in jammed doors. So, I guess jammed doors is a whold other category...
The Pinto could have been fixed and been ond of the safest small cars of its day for about 12.00 each. Ford KNEW, and it was cheaper to get SUED, and let the mostly young people and women roast to death! Rather than move some bolts and put in a gas tank bladder...
FORD had been known to change the TEST (not the car!?) when the Explorer failed to survive being dropped on its roof from 2 feet up (simulating a rollover). The huge thing couldn't do it without "killing" everyone (total roof collapse), so Ford reduced the height the car gets dropped. Yeah.
Still failed. I don't think it can make it 6 inches w/o total roof collapse. Much less a real rollover.
See Still Unsafe at Any Speed by Brian Chase. You probably drive a car all the time. But not an airplane, lol.
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band I see what you’re trying to say, and I get that. However, even though there’s more accidents involving vehicles other than planes they’re more survivable. I’m more likely to survive a car crash. Planes however...if your bird falls out of the sky you might as well kiss your ass goodbye.
I'm now addicted to these videos. I've only flew twice in my lifetime, but I don't think I'll ever board a plane again after watching these kinds of videos.🤔🤔🤔