OceanGate Is Worse Than You Thought

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

Комментарии • 11 тыс.

  • @JedMcLovin
    @JedMcLovin 3 месяца назад +28692

    I love how he's like "submarines are the safest vehicles on the planet."
    Then doesn't follow any of the safety guidelines that make them so.

    • @PrinceAlhorian
      @PrinceAlhorian 3 месяца назад +1634

      Exactly, flying is one of the safest forms of mass transit on the planet but you don't see me jumping off a cliff with a set of plywood wings.

    • @ecm84ee
      @ecm84ee 3 месяца назад +213

      They are, just not the ones he made.

    • @trollman591
      @trollman591 3 месяца назад +430

      I served in the US Navy on two different Submarines. They are safe because of a program called SUBSAFE which was created after the loss of the USS Thresher. I was part of that program. Mr. Rush was just reckless and just after profit not ensuring the safety of his passemgers.

    • @wylie500
      @wylie500 3 месяца назад +119

      They are safe because they are mostly going to depths of a couple hundred meters, not a few thousand, that's a whole different kettle of fish.

    • @NoharaLoco-gw8ld
      @NoharaLoco-gw8ld 3 месяца назад +157

      @@trollman591 I kinda get where his attitude comes from. I see it a lot among the lower levels of the engineering community and especially from the ones who have never actually done the things they are doing engineering work to design.
      Its not so much about greed and being reckless, its more often from people who are dreamers at heart that couldnt achieve their lifes dream. I see it all the time where, after failing and/or coming to accept they will not fulfill one goal they turn to another with a passionate vehemence.
      Its not malicious or reckless per se, though it is very closely related to that. Rather, its the desperation to achieve something.
      I think this guy just wanted it so much and wasnt willing to take the time to make it work or find the flaws. He ignored the fundamental lessons in engineering because he arrogantly believed he simply knew better and his desperation to achieve it just let him blindly push on.
      Its sad because aviation is repleate with examples of why we dont rush new designs. Just look and the de havilland comet for a perfect cross comparison to the titan.
      An emtirely new design and technology built using a mix of new and old ideas and pushed into service without any extensive testing.
      A body count is the inevitable result.
      Whats a shame is that the technology behind the sub could very well have done what stockton wanted it to do had it gotten more research and development.
      But he didnt want to take that time, he wanted it now.
      Well, he got it and he made the most critical mistake in engineering, he tested to failure with his own life.

  • @kdubbsthe3rd
    @kdubbsthe3rd 2 месяца назад +3008

    I've had a lot of bosses like Rush: they're so used to convincing investors and charming staff that they eventually think they can bullshit nature herself.

    • @saligator8879
      @saligator8879 2 месяца назад +23

      true

    • @ledarbyromeo9667
      @ledarbyromeo9667 2 месяца назад +74

      Liquid Icarus

    • @nick4830
      @nick4830 2 месяца назад +90

      They attribute too much credit to themselves when things go right. Thinking that X number of dives without resolving problem Y must mean that Y must not have been a big problem and I'm smart for having discovered that--what else can I be smart for disregarding? Starting company X and having hundreds of people look to me for guidance must mean I'm the one who knows what's right and it's my unique decision making that is driving that success. I found the cheat code.

    • @AngelaNortonTyler
      @AngelaNortonTyler 2 месяца назад +8

      That's deep

    • @alexxannomaly8735
      @alexxannomaly8735 2 месяца назад +2

      So true

  • @Dollarkat
    @Dollarkat 3 месяца назад +6448

    If I had a ton of money, the bottom of the ocean in a fiberglass, experimental sub is the last place I want to be.

    • @sammathis6634
      @sammathis6634 2 месяца назад +60

      But because you don't have a ton of money, you really want to be there?

    • @sajiretto
      @sajiretto 2 месяца назад +139

      True. But you and I don't have a lot of money. We need to make money merely to exist in some degree. And knowing how hard it is to create wealth, we and others like us will never do. Those who have this amounts of money that does stupid shit like this never earned it, they merely got it by inheritance, crime or pure luck.

    • @Dollarkat
      @Dollarkat 2 месяца назад +11

      @@sajiretto I agree.

    • @Dollarkat
      @Dollarkat 2 месяца назад

      @@sammathis6634 no

    • @DoraTheMFDestroya
      @DoraTheMFDestroya 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@sammathis6634
      Damn, you're kinda stupid
      "I like pancakes"
      "So you must hate waffles."

  • @Nomadnetic
    @Nomadnetic 2 месяца назад +697

    Boy they weren't kidding with that promo video. It really was a once in a lifetime experience for them. They really committed to that.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 25 дней назад +15

      funny how everyone was worried about the game controller when they should have worried about the pressure vessel of the sub imploding🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MattMooresEyebrows
      @MattMooresEyebrows 8 дней назад +2

      "Don't miss a chance to be a part of history" yeah, they added to the exhibit alright, and now i wont get my chance. Lol

    • @jimmygravitt1048
      @jimmygravitt1048 8 дней назад +1

      Seemed like perfectly honest advertising to me.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 8 дней назад

      @@MattMooresEyebrows well yeah don't you want to become part of history don't worry your body will not be on display

  • @2stayweird
    @2stayweird 3 месяца назад +17213

    Well, he got his wish. He will definitely be remembered for the rules he broke.

    • @RAZR_Channel
      @RAZR_Channel 3 месяца назад +329

      The Most Powerful Force in the universe is : Human Arrogance : leading to both of these tragedies… The idea that a ship is "unsinkable"… ignoring : common sense engineering… Man : "She's UnSinkable " ... God : " We'll See About That " ...

    • @nickl5658
      @nickl5658 3 месяца назад +290

      man forgot that safety rules are written in blood and thus paid in blood.

    • @SwissTHX11384EB
      @SwissTHX11384EB 3 месяца назад +7

      You mean the hulls

    • @SilkyLew
      @SilkyLew 3 месяца назад +57

      ​@@nickl5658Yeah, but the safety rules he ignored were already common sense. This isn't the 1900s where people were working in mines and didn't know any better

    • @cannack
      @cannack 3 месяца назад +55

      ​@@nickl5658 he`s a pilot too.... *he should have known that very very well* likely he disposed of it as mutter mouth B.S despite flying fighter jets as a test pilot.
      probably my first week or two of flight school I was told ``the big reason why aviation is so utterly safe is because of our rules, lessons & experiences *written in the blood of past pilots, aircrew, and passengers* ... safety is paramount, no exceptions whatsoever``

  • @smokesletsgo2374
    @smokesletsgo2374 3 месяца назад +9019

    The Titanic ended in disaster. The Titan ended in disaster. Lets see what Tit brings us

  • @brightonluke3280
    @brightonluke3280 3 месяца назад +22266

    "At some point safety is just pure waste." Welp, that's the last thing I would want to hear from someone designing a vessel going to the bottom of the ocean! Redundancy is the key to true safety.

    • @nodlimax
      @nodlimax 3 месяца назад +263

      Well, if you look throughout history the biggest scientific breakthroughs have been accomplished while ignoring safety and quite a few people paid the price as a result. Early experiments regarding atomic power were done without any proper safety measures partially because they didn't know and partially because they thought they could handle it. Do you think it was a good idea to use a screwdriver in the demon core incident? It definitely wasn't but they did it anyway and the person holding the screwdriver died a pretty horrific death. He was warned about it before but did it anyway. As a result they learned the effects of deadly doses of radiation and what it will do to your body.
      This thing here was also pretty stupid but hey, things definitely have been learned as a result and every single person who was on that sub signed papers which multiple times mentioned the risk of death and that it was and experimental vehicle. Sooooo....

    • @brightonluke3280
      @brightonluke3280 3 месяца назад +707

      @@nodlimax I was speaking for myself, if others want to die so we can all learn stuff from it then that’s up to them. Though in this particular case I think human trials were not necessary to realize his design was destined to fail. Plenty of other stuff is not as obvious and may actually need risk to discover the limits, Stockton Rush was too full of hubris to recognize the difference.

    • @geroffmilan3328
      @geroffmilan3328 3 месяца назад +558

      ​@@nodlimaxLMAO it was abundantly clear - to any non-egomaniac engineer - that his design was a disaster.
      We know this from multiple internal & external sources.
      The lack of submarine accidents in recent decades is *precisely because* of regulations - designed in response to earlier disasters.
      He wasn't a pioneer: he was an idiot determined to prove the hard-earned prior experience of others was wrong, like a toddler having a tantrum because he couldn't have his own way.
      Now he's fish food.
      Sham it wasn't just him.

    • @MrUranium238
      @MrUranium238 3 месяца назад +11

      That's what my boss says every time 😄

    • @annanardo2358
      @annanardo2358 3 месяца назад +106

      Safety is a waste, that's why the designers of the Titanic put a few lifeboats onboard. Safety wasn't an issue, AND SO, THE TITANIC TOOK A "DIVE". What the he'll was he thinking ??? Safety isn't an issue, yeah well, I wouldn't have gone on the Titan if they paid ME to go on that submersible.🙄

  • @lane1368
    @lane1368 Месяц назад +1143

    The hubris is astounding.The desirefor building cities under the ocean and on mars instead of trying not to ruin the one place that is suitable for humans.

    • @ThatsHellBoy
      @ThatsHellBoy Месяц назад +20

      I said the same damn thing..

    • @Caprabone
      @Caprabone 28 дней назад +6

      Oh, but then they can't gatekeepers lives there.

    • @emsa5034
      @emsa5034 19 дней назад +17

      Yeah and also I think it’s just in humans DNA to spread out and “manifest destiny” as far as we can, just occupy as much space as we possibly can, either on earth or in space. Very odd and counterproductive.

    • @lks178
      @lks178 14 дней назад +1

      Not like a billionaire can do anything against a true elite.

    • @vavord5181
      @vavord5181 13 дней назад

      Ok greentard

  • @nefrojas
    @nefrojas 3 месяца назад +8476

    An engineering degree does not imply intelligence. I am living proof of that. I want you to know that my capacity for stupidity is quite great and involves several fields. Knowing your limits and a tiny dose of humility will keep you alive.

    • @LoFi_Punk
      @LoFi_Punk 3 месяца назад +322

      I can agree with this. I work for a company that makes some of the largest mills available in the Western hemisphere. I have been witness to engineers fucking up a $500,000 part and millions worth of machine equipment
      Thankfully I haven't personally witnessed any injuries and there been no deaths thanks to several layers of verification and safety

    • @WilkinsonX
      @WilkinsonX 3 месяца назад +194

      Having that self awareness is surprisingly rare, and IME, a strong indicator of high general intelligence.

    • @makogiron
      @makogiron 3 месяца назад +24

      I always belive to keep going until you don't feel safe anymore. As in before hitting the absolute limit

    • @saitouhajime3
      @saitouhajime3 3 месяца назад +50

      Don't forget the use of long known safety rules and what industry would call ppe - personal protection equipment. Stuff like glasses for your eyes, appropriate gloves, and hearing protection. Oxygen masks for air limited spaces. Those things. You don't ignore that stuff because it's annoying, it's there to make sure you go home in the same condition you got to work in.

    • @joeq.public281
      @joeq.public281 3 месяца назад +8

      It does. Just ask any engineer. 🙄🤣

  • @louiefrancuz3282
    @louiefrancuz3282 3 месяца назад +7702

    Oceangate is what happens when just enough knowledge to be dangerous is coupled with just enough money to be dangerous.

    • @Darryl_Frost
      @Darryl_Frost 3 месяца назад +200

      and in the hands of a narcissist.

    • @rrh2918
      @rrh2918 3 месяца назад +115

      I think it should be with just enough knowledge to be dangerous and just enough money to be stupid.

    • @TigreModerata
      @TigreModerata 3 месяца назад +1

      I think that'll be the tag line of the 21st century, for whatever posterity will be left one day😂 too many too stupid people worth too much money. Dunning-Kruger on crystal meth, that's how humanity will be remembered by whatever species evolves to interpret our scribblings after us🎉

    • @RobertCraft-re5sf
      @RobertCraft-re5sf 3 месяца назад +12

      @@louiefrancuz3282 Well said

    • @paulbryan6716
      @paulbryan6716 3 месяца назад

      And a below 30 IQ to go with it.

  • @BT293HG
    @BT293HG 3 месяца назад +20400

    The iceberg is confused asf about why they got +5 assists a century later

    • @_GeneralMechanics_
      @_GeneralMechanics_ 3 месяца назад +577

      It got a free rubix cube too.

    • @Gay_Rainbow
      @Gay_Rainbow 3 месяца назад +216

      If it still exists now

    • @gemini_islandgal268
      @gemini_islandgal268 3 месяца назад +58

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mdrdprtcl
      @mdrdprtcl 3 месяца назад +200

      @@Gay_Rainbowiceberg’s ghost then

    • @Samos900
      @Samos900 3 месяца назад

      The iceberg watching it’s kill cam is just the slow effects of global warming

  • @lindaweber5599
    @lindaweber5599 2 месяца назад +155

    I'm sixty three years old and I am really tired of grown men wanting to be seen as boy geniuses.

  • @philo5227
    @philo5227 3 месяца назад +5323

    "At some point, safety is just pure waste"
    If this isn't engraved on Stockton's tombstone, it should be.

    • @kestrimurgel5155
      @kestrimurgel5155 3 месяца назад +142

      He doesn't have a tombstone. When the sub imploded, it basically liquidised everyone inside to a fine pulp.

    • @uchytjes10
      @uchytjes10 3 месяца назад +322

      ​@@kestrimurgel5155I mean, that doesn't preclude a tombstone on an empty grave, which if found by an archaeologist without context would tell a hell of a story.

    • @reviewchan9806
      @reviewchan9806 3 месяца назад +161

      The FDA has a saying that your regulations are written in blood. That's because at some point, someone died to figure this stuff out. Cherish it.

    • @Poppa_Capinyoaz
      @Poppa_Capinyoaz 3 месяца назад

      Either that or 'ignorant loser'

    • @laurafrakinroslin
      @laurafrakinroslin 3 месяца назад +39

      Well, his memorial plaque

  • @shawnp601
    @shawnp601 2 месяца назад +1821

    From a person with 25 years of submarine experience….Stockon said subs are statistically the safest vehicle for travel. What he failed to realize is subs have a nearly flawless record of safety because EVERYTHING is procedure driven and deliberate with safety as the number 1 priority

    • @SilentThundersnow
      @SilentThundersnow 2 месяца назад +52

      Titanium. He forgot that one small detail.

    • @shawnp601
      @shawnp601 2 месяца назад +69

      @@SilentThundersnow I mean I get it…we wouldn’t advance technologically as a society without innovation so I applaud him for pushing the boundaries.
      If it was just him involved it would have been just an unfortunate accident. He, however, put other people’s lives in danger and profited from It. Those unsuspecting people may have asked more questions or just said “nope” if they knew the corners he was cutting.
      Makes you wonder how many other companies have this kind of practice.

    • @SilentThundersnow
      @SilentThundersnow 2 месяца назад +33

      @@shawnp601 yeah. I agree. I can see thinking outside the box and doing scientific experiments for innovation. True. The only thing is he refused to admit that he was in the experiment phase, and shouldn't have had paying consumers so he could afford his experiment.
      That was gross.
      And then when he heard all the cracking, he should've cancelled all rides. Like you said, he should've only risked his life. 😥

    • @edd8914
      @edd8914 2 месяца назад +5

      @@SilentThundersnowDidn’t he say it was an “experimental sub”?

    • @DaWhiteWolffie
      @DaWhiteWolffie 2 месяца назад

      It's cuz the people that make them are the ones that are going to pilot them and they REALLY don't want to die. If everything we built operated on that belief everything would be alot safer in life. Gonna build a new experimental airplane? Okay, YOU will be in the cockpit on the flights. New food additive? YOU will be the one eating it for the next few years to see what happens. The people that make money would be much more careful when selling their goods if it was THEIR lives on the line.

  • @orlandoventor1754
    @orlandoventor1754 3 месяца назад +3194

    It's, statistically,the safest way to travel because of the safety regulations Mr. Stockton was so enthusiastically breaking.

    • @aliciaballesteros-mitchell1059
      @aliciaballesteros-mitchell1059 3 месяца назад +87

      Exactly what I thought when he said that. If they're so safe, why are you going around trying to redesign everything that made them so safe? Not even improving upon those regulations, just ignoring them all together....

    • @FirstNameLastName-hz4kv
      @FirstNameLastName-hz4kv 3 месяца назад +41

      My first thought when I heard him say that was "Yeah subs are safe because they were being built by people who didn't disregard safety like you do" lmao

    • @786buzzable
      @786buzzable 3 месяца назад +6

      Oh the irony!!!!

    • @SiSiSandro
      @SiSiSandro 3 месяца назад +36

      The rest of the sub industry must be so pissed. Maintain the strictest safety standards for decades, only for this dude to come along and ruin the record for everybody.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake 3 месяца назад +20

      It's really disingenuous to say that 15 million people have gone in a private commercial sub, when the vast majority of those are just plastic bubbles that go anywhere from basically zero depth to about 200ft. That's like saying that kids jumping on a trampoline are space explorers and including them in your statistics.

  • @xsuzannex
    @xsuzannex Месяц назад +214

    19 year old Suleman is the only one I feel sorry for.

  • @sliver01
    @sliver01 3 месяца назад +4259

    "Statistically the safest vehicles on the planet" Yeah Stockton, until yours came along.

    • @MrBeboopman
      @MrBeboopman 3 месяца назад +128

      Indeed ... due to the rigorous rules.

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist 3 месяца назад +134

      He set the record as the first occupied submersible implosion in history. (There have been submarines that have imploded, but those a different type of craft)

    • @generalcodsworth4417
      @generalcodsworth4417 3 месяца назад

      Exactly. If you say "this is the safest thing" and also "there's too much regulation on this thing" then I just assume you're a total idiot, because unless you can do TONS of tests to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the regulations are indeed too strict and can be relaxed without making the thing dangerous.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 месяца назад +64

      @@TheJadeFist does it count as a submersible or a garbage can?

    • @raigarmullerson4838
      @raigarmullerson4838 3 месяца назад +22

      @@Blox117 both lol

  • @eerielconstantine5051
    @eerielconstantine5051 3 месяца назад +3771

    Stockton was so smart he atomized himself and a bunch of others in a matter of nanoseconds without the use of a transporter

    • @Apoplexy1000
      @Apoplexy1000 3 месяца назад +258

      I had been hoping that before the submersible imploded the creator had had a long moment of clear understanding that it was going to fail.
      A groan of buckling structure or something. Just so he would have known what the price of his hubris was before oblivion.

    • @bejbimama6689
      @bejbimama6689 3 месяца назад +83

      ​@@Apoplexy1000 no, he probably blamed every one else

    • @djinnxx7050
      @djinnxx7050 3 месяца назад +53

      ​@@bejbimama6689"It's your guy's fault for uh... for... I don't know what yet, but when I do, it's all your fault!"

    • @djsmeguk
      @djsmeguk 3 месяца назад +96

      ​@@Apoplexy1000sadly, he was toothpaste within nanoseconds. His optic and audio nerves would have been atomized long before they could transmit the catastrophic signal.

    • @ABurntMuffin
      @ABurntMuffin 3 месяца назад +198

      @@Apoplexy1000 contrary to what people are posting here, they were out of contact with the surface and in an uncontrolled descent in the pitch black for 10 - 15 minutes before it imploded. And while you might be going, oh haha he did get time to think about it, remember, so did 4 other innocent people. A kid and his dad... forced to hug and think about mom and beg their God for one more chance to see her. It doesn't matter if he was a billionaire, he was still real; he was still meat with feelings like the rest of us.

  • @lunasuji
    @lunasuji 2 месяца назад +1450

    Never seen a man's hubris piss off Poseidon so much since Odysseus

    • @rachelvanbora4689
      @rachelvanbora4689 2 месяца назад +31

      Oh the wine-dark see
      now I have to re-read the Odyssey

    • @futureghost162
      @futureghost162 2 месяца назад

      @@rachelvanbora4689 totally here for the random meet cute between you and @lunasuji

    • @spartan2867
      @spartan2867 2 месяца назад +17

      ​@@rachelvanbora4689everyone that reads it gets obsessed with that line lol. Joyce won't ever shut up about his little Greek words lol

    • @PressXForXavier
      @PressXForXavier 2 месяца назад +12

      I laughed so hard I needed my inhaler.

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 месяца назад +2

      Didn't he have another sub called that? Or maybe it was the rover....

  • @ShaquilleOtmeal31
    @ShaquilleOtmeal31 21 день назад +437

    The craziest part of all of this, is that NO ONE FREAKING STOPPED HIM!! I can’t drive my car if I don’t have the emissions checked on it every year but this dude can create a whole ass sea-mobile with ZERO oversight or safety inspections/protocols to ensure compliance??!? Failure on so many levels

    • @WokioWolfy
      @WokioWolfy 15 дней назад +4

      Would you stop him at the cost of losing your job tho?

    • @jackstapleton3132
      @jackstapleton3132 14 дней назад +4

      I mean land of the free this is just a very vague example.

    • @MrZega000
      @MrZega000 13 дней назад +38

      This is why regulations exist. He shouldn't have been legally allowed to take people underwater in that thing without approval from federal entities.
      This is basically the end result of being libertarian.

    • @Styxswimmer
      @Styxswimmer 13 дней назад +18

      ​@MrZega000 no. The reason why he got away with it is because they only ever launched that thing in international waters where no govt has authority. Stop blaming free markets and libertarianism.

    • @thewhitedread7572
      @thewhitedread7572 13 дней назад +2

      You can move to a state that's not California

  • @Zeupater
    @Zeupater 2 месяца назад +961

    He wasn’t thinking outside the box. He was ignoring physics.

    • @pretty-fly-for-a-asshai-guy
      @pretty-fly-for-a-asshai-guy 2 месяца назад +2

      He was 'thinking' inside the box. But the box imploded...

    • @cnccarving
      @cnccarving Месяц назад +2

      jaque picard dove into mariana trenchat least double the depth
      he built a steel sphere, with 4 inches wall thickness
      a sphere what is way more suitable geometry
      diving a few meter already the pressure can be sensed in the ear
      these depths are just unimaginable the pressure

    • @Loveiswhatweneed-mx6tb
      @Loveiswhatweneed-mx6tb Месяц назад

      Oceangate has been manipulated, something is down there guys, something we should not know, they stopped him from finding out.
      Wake up, the darknet has multiple whistleblower leaks. he found something down there.

    • @libertyprime9307
      @libertyprime9307 Месяц назад

      Bro is a dumbass. The Sun won't extinguish when it runs out of hydrogen, it will turn into a red giant and fry the Earth.

  • @Koyote747
    @Koyote747 2 месяца назад +3068

    the "Rule Breaking" concept is something you apply socially, not in physics

    • @porcus123
      @porcus123 2 месяца назад +66

      Before CEOs were engineers now they are marketing guys

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 2 месяца назад

      Depends on how smart you are and how fancy Ur lab is

    • @bigdog4574
      @bigdog4574 2 месяца назад +9

      Not true… physical rule breaking is how we develop new sustainable technology

    • @porcus123
      @porcus123 2 месяца назад +17

      @bigdog4574 lol tell me an example? Because I don't think you can find one

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 2 месяца назад

      @@porcus123 He's right but you need a Cern scientist to explain

  • @gustavoaraujopenha8463
    @gustavoaraujopenha8463 2 месяца назад +798

    He used the ''Submersibles are the safest vehicle'' line a lot without realizing that the why they are so safe was because of the rules he was breaking.

    • @rubyruby7573
      @rubyruby7573 2 месяца назад +3

      Well Stockton Was Partially Right But Unlike Most Engineers Who Are Impaired By Safety Standards Didn't Have Better Safety Standards To Replace The Existing Ones With

    • @aqira2yoo486
      @aqira2yoo486 Месяц назад

      Smart amirite

    • @emilymorrison3186
      @emilymorrison3186 Месяц назад

      Dude played Subnautica on hard-core mode, thinking he was in normal mode.

    • @mattdeaver6850
      @mattdeaver6850 Месяц назад +1

      He was also going 100x deeper than most commercial submarines go.

  • @ISleepWithAFanOn
    @ISleepWithAFanOn 13 дней назад +94

    "At some point safety is just pure waste."
    -Dead guy

  • @cityman1111
    @cityman1111 3 месяца назад +7364

    It's a damn good thing that Rush didn't own a major airline.

    • @LoLlamaWTM
      @LoLlamaWTM 3 месяца назад +98

      ​@@Wohlstandsmuelli see what you did there😂

    • @VREDFOX
      @VREDFOX 3 месяца назад +45

      @@Wohlstandsmuell 21:52 That actually makes sense

    • @annanardo2358
      @annanardo2358 3 месяца назад +16

      OMG , wouldn't even want to THINK about the nightmare he would design to fly the skies...🤔🤔😗😮😮😮😖😖 cringe worthy , the very thought of him . I think he was watching too much Star Trek to think that HE could accomplish in this century what Star Trek accomplished in the 24th century. He needed to be REAL not watching cartoons and thinking "I could do that " attitude. 😖😖 WHAT was he going to do ? Design an actual STARSHIP to fly passengers around the globe ? 😄😃😃😆

    • @paulbrookes413
      @paulbrookes413 3 месяца назад +12

      It literally wouldn't have been allowed to get off the ground !

    • @paulboger3101
      @paulboger3101 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Wohlstandsmuell You got this posted first!!

  • @kwith
    @kwith 2 месяца назад +6591

    The most tragic part of this whole story is the 19 year old kid who didn't want to be there. That's the real loss in this whole story.

    • @chandlerbingbong5773
      @chandlerbingbong5773 2 месяца назад +265

      @@youtubegarbage7876 Are you making a joke, or are you serious? Barron Trump is not going to save humanity. He's not the second coming of Trump.

    • @RussOlson-pl3kf
      @RussOlson-pl3kf 2 месяца назад

      ​@@chandlerbingbong5773Could be sarcastically saying it's too bad an asshole is still alive.
      Could also be an asshole hiding behind a joke.

    • @gotisass6337
      @gotisass6337 2 месяца назад

      @@youtubegarbage7876I'm convinced brainrot started because of politically addicted douchebags inability to grasp reality

    • @natebowman7593
      @natebowman7593 2 месяца назад +44

      @@chandlerbingbong5773 Oh? Did your crystal ball tell you that?

    • @madeniquevanwyk
      @madeniquevanwyk 2 месяца назад +294

      He didn't want to be there? Oh no I didn't know that 😢

  • @gambrinus330116
    @gambrinus330116 3 месяца назад +14821

    he forgot one crucial fact. rules are written in blood.

    • @jasonbourneistreadstone
      @jasonbourneistreadstone 3 месяца назад +1040

      Quite correct. Safety rules come from past accidents.

    • @fred9za
      @fred9za 3 месяца назад +464

      This is one of the best quotes I have ever seen. I am so going to use it.

    • @vracar2667
      @vracar2667 3 месяца назад +32

      True​@@fred9za

    • @tw8464
      @tw8464 3 месяца назад +188

      Exactly! The TRUTH! Can't stand these arrogant people who insist on flouting the rules, because you're absolutely right every one of those rules was written because people died. So anyone arrogant flouting these important rules wisdom and prior knowledge is truly a heinous person because he is in delusion not reality, no matter what he cons himself or others with his lies irresponsibility and nonsense

    • @silviuvisan505
      @silviuvisan505 3 месяца назад +56

      ​@@tw8464They are engineers and think "big gubmint tryna keep a brother down". They are not even very vook smart.

  • @melrakan
    @melrakan Месяц назад +111

    Douglas MacArthur is one of the last people I'd take advice from, but it's not surprising Stockton seemed to idolize him. Narcissists know each other.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 25 дней назад +1

      had the carbon fiber filaments gone in multiple directions it might have lasted💀💀

  • @Grand-Massive
    @Grand-Massive 2 месяца назад +1967

    The best comment I've seen about this: The difference between space and land is 1 atmosphere. The difference between the ocean and land is hundreds of atmospheres.

    • @salaciousBastard
      @salaciousBastard 2 месяца назад

      *BARS!*
      I'm sorry. It just had to be said. 😂

    • @blorglord
      @blorglord 2 месяца назад +19

      are you aware of what that means or just regurgitating

    • @Grand-Massive
      @Grand-Massive 2 месяца назад +162

      @@blorglord what makes you think I don't know what that means? Its basically self explanatory.

    • @not-actually-that-creative
      @not-actually-that-creative 2 месяца назад +41

      ​​@@blorglordI interpreted it as there being a lower margin of error for a deep-sea sub due to having to deal with pressure.

    • @Donnerbalken28
      @Donnerbalken28 2 месяца назад +83

      @@not-actually-that-creative Yeah. It's easier to keep pressure in than to keep pressure out.

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike 2 месяца назад +408

    "We've partnered with Boeing" - Welp, that aged like spoiled milk.

    • @hectorzambrano4092
      @hectorzambrano4092 2 месяца назад +20

      Boeing's reputation as well aged like fucking milk ever since they bought out McDonnell Douglas in 1997. Before that was safety first, now it's all profit, eventually leading to the 737 MAX's brand new circus industry.

    • @cass_caps
      @cass_caps 2 месяца назад +3

      Went looking for this comment lmao

    • @Loveiswhatweneed-mx6tb
      @Loveiswhatweneed-mx6tb Месяц назад

      Oceangate was manipulated by govs.
      They found something deep down there, what we never should find out.

    • @afhostie
      @afhostie 20 дней назад

      @@cass_caps First thing I thought of when I heard it

  • @Disinterested1
    @Disinterested1 3 месяца назад +2289

    I love the way he used the stats on how many trips were safely completed in subs
    then neglects to also add
    they were all certified!
    his was NOT!

    • @PartanBree
      @PartanBree 3 месяца назад +180

      As someone who works in the marine industry, that's the thing that grinds my gears the most. The classification societies are not "over the top", they represent our cumulative knowledge of how not to die at sea. The fact there were so few accidents in these subs is testament to how valuable that knowledge is, but Rush wanted to say on the one hand "look how safe it is, nobody ever dies" and "all these safety rules are over the top, we don't need them".

    • @Butchcavalier
      @Butchcavalier 3 месяца назад +82

      @@PartanBree This attitude reminds me very much of a mistake I (and many others in my position) made in my teenage years, thinking: "Hey, I've been taking this medication for years and years and I feel fine! Maybe it's time to stop taking it since I'm doing so well." only to realise after a VERY bad time that the reason I was doing so well was the god damn medication. The reason for submarines relatively low death toll is that people take their safety protocols very seriously, considering there is little to no hope of rescue at the bottom of the ocean!

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 3 месяца назад +42

      He also didn’t mention the depths most commercial passenger submarines go to. Which is a few dozens of metres tops for most of them..

    • @newforestpixie5297
      @newforestpixie5297 3 месяца назад +24

      Yes it’s bizarre that someone so clever or intelligent could quote stats of success which were thus because of the very rules he was proud of poo pooing 😁🐢

    • @anjou6497
      @anjou6497 3 месяца назад +19

      Yes, and he didn't point out the glaringly obvious, that with every dive the Titan was getting weaker and weaker...re the carbon fibre hull and the titanium rings.

  • @ar6543
    @ar6543 14 дней назад +133

    As someone currently studying marine bio at university, hearing Stockton Rush talk about the ocean gives me the heebie jeebies. He didn’t actually care about the sea or the life in it, he just cared about industrialization for industrialization’s sake. Innovation with no regard for the consequences or if the product is even actually needed. His dreams wouldn’t’ve helped humanity or the planet, it would’ve just fueled his ego.

    • @juliapayment8240
      @juliapayment8240 12 дней назад +11

      right!!!! viewing the ocean and the life in it as a resource is absurd- as if there aren’t entire ecosystems there?

    • @azuriiru
      @azuriiru 10 дней назад +7

      I was very surprised about how he seems to not even realise that the ocean ecosystems are connected to those on land and implies that if we fuck up the surface we can still live underwater.
      Besides, the most ecologically productive and diverse parts of the ocean are shallow areas and the areas which light can reach, not the depths. Photosynthesis, and not other forms of chemosynthesis, is what's sustaining multicellular life on this planet, and that's just not available in the depths of the ocean.
      And he just throws scientific terms at you without any sense of scale or explanation of how these terms connect. I mean, he talks about the sun running out of hydrogen and human induced climate change as reasons to build cities underwater, but let me tell you, we have the time to make ourselves extinct a thousand times over before we need to worry about solar death. Climate change is much more pressing issue, on the other hand.

    • @duplighoul
      @duplighoul 9 дней назад +2

      i do zoology at uni rn and its pissing me off how he talks like preserving the land is a forgone conclusion. no point in fixing our mistakes lets just find the next thing to colonise.
      also the way he speaks implies he at least believes in climate change. how does a man whos based his whole career around the ocean not understand that even a 1 degree difference in the waters temp can cause all those 'resources' to change in unpredictable ways

    • @senny-
      @senny- 9 дней назад

      Many organisms in the ocean actually feed on wood. Yes, not sea algae, actual wood, from the land. Eventually, wood will drift on the sea, break down, and sink on the ocean. And there are entire ecosystems down there dependent on that.
      The way he talked about the ocean as him spreading his own empire without even understanding it, I rarely say this, but I'm glad his hubris got in check.

    • @StuTheDon17
      @StuTheDon17 8 дней назад

      He is one of the dumbest people I've ever heard speak before.
      If he didn't have a university degree and was jobless and homeless instead whilst saying the same things about living on the ocean floor, etc, we'd consider taking him to a mental hospital.
      The guy is the perfect example of having an education not equating to higher intelligence.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 3 месяца назад +980

    His entire business model was based on "if I can't go to space, I'm going to try convince everyone else space is dumb so I can still be a celebrated pioneer in _something."_

    • @wesleyfilms
      @wesleyfilms 3 месяца назад +69

      One giant copesession.

    • @TheDerbon
      @TheDerbon 3 месяца назад +7

      true

    • @candlestyx8517
      @candlestyx8517 3 месяца назад +41

      "Oh no, Elon beat me to the punch, instead of making a competing company Im going to look towards the ocean so I can bask in all of the glory"

    • @Crusadatron
      @Crusadatron 3 месяца назад +43

      It is quite unfortunate too. The ocean is filled with some pretty cool stuff, but this idiot likely scared off a bunch of people who might have been interested in exploring it.

    • @CyrusChennault
      @CyrusChennault 2 месяца назад

      Exactly. The man was a failure and a coward. Im so glad hes not here anymore.

  • @rvsonthelevel8746
    @rvsonthelevel8746 3 месяца назад +994

    This is why when everyone in the industry tells you that you are nuts, you should really pause and think about what you are doing.

    • @en0n126
      @en0n126 2 месяца назад +62

      It's funny too, because he drew a parallel to SpaceX and people telling them they were nuts. I think the difference is, the fact that the materials that SpaceX use unconventionally in their starship design were considered nuts because it was too heavy and the added strength wasn't needed. Over-engineered use of simple materials, meaning loss of efficiency. Rush did the opposite. He was nuts for using materials that were too weak for the application, likely because of the desired cost & weight savings.

    • @rvsonthelevel8746
      @rvsonthelevel8746 2 месяца назад +22

      @@en0n126 Yep! It is ok to be out of the box, just sometimes you can be too far out of that box. If you flirt with the edge too much you usually end up dead.

    • @ApothecaryGrant
      @ApothecaryGrant 2 месяца назад +6

      In this guy’s mind everyone else has to be wrong when they disagree with him

    • @MikeO-p8l
      @MikeO-p8l 2 месяца назад +2

      Did that controller even have a pause button?

    • @fireballmarlboroman3753
      @fireballmarlboroman3753 2 месяца назад

      ​@@en0n12612:21 12:26

  • @dhepermana
    @dhepermana 3 месяца назад +1086

    "Let's call this sub Titan while removing all the titanium from it".

    • @theaikidoka
      @theaikidoka 2 месяца назад +125

      It didn't even have enough steel that you could name it Irony...

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y 2 месяца назад +12

      It's possible he named it for the Titans from Greek mythology.

    • @df-ft6iq
      @df-ft6iq 2 месяца назад +17

      @@DanSmith-j8y just like Titanium

    • @DanSmith-j8y
      @DanSmith-j8y 2 месяца назад +3

      @@df-ft6iq Yeah, titanium's got nothing to do with it, that's the point.

    • @tropictitan8531
      @tropictitan8531 2 месяца назад +1

      is the titanic made out of titanium too?

  • @IgorValar
    @IgorValar 21 день назад +23

    that ad should have said "come and be part of the ocean floor" with this companys regards for any sort of safety

  • @k_a_bizzle
    @k_a_bizzle 2 месяца назад +587

    Guy must have read the tale of Icarus and thought “yeah, but I’m going DOWN.”

  • @orangeppl
    @orangeppl 3 месяца назад +9894

    The titanic didn’t kill these people, Stockton Rush did.

    • @LoneWolf051
      @LoneWolf051 3 месяца назад +497

      yea seriously, the ship was just sitting there minding its own business

    • @NickTaylorRickPowers
      @NickTaylorRickPowers 3 месяца назад +138

      Well apparently when you're rich they let you do it

    • @Mrmidknight-yx9pg
      @Mrmidknight-yx9pg 3 месяца назад +106

      ​@@LoneWolf051MENCINGLY

    • @Kakarot64.
      @Kakarot64. 3 месяца назад +93

      I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow was responsible for the Titanic itself going down via accidental time travel shenanigans at the point of his bath toys implosion.

    • @kasplatz553
      @kasplatz553 3 месяца назад +10

      Literally my first thought when I heard that.

  • @ItsJustLisa
    @ItsJustLisa 3 месяца назад +1320

    I remember James Cameron being interviewed after the implosion. He was absolutely adamant about the fact that deep sea small vessels are made from titanium and were spherical for very good reasons. This man has been to some of the deepest places in the ocean. He didn’t trust Titan as far as he could have thrown it!
    There was also a Nevada billionaire who was offered the seats ultimately taken by the other gentleman and his son. He was really tempted to, but his own son said he wouldn’t set foot in that thing and laid out his reasons. Carbon fiber was a really big one. Nevada guy called Rush back and politely declined.

    • @raygiordano1045
      @raygiordano1045 3 месяца назад +123

      Do you think the declination went some like: 'Thank you for inviting me on a one-way trip to the ocean floor in your death-trap, but something suddenly came up and I can't make it. Maybe next time?'

    • @brandinojam24
      @brandinojam24 3 месяца назад +9

      Explain how James Cameron would be able to throw a submersible.

    • @LuminaryGames
      @LuminaryGames 3 месяца назад +63

      @@brandinojam24 He likely could not throw a submersible. Effectively throwing it 0 meters.

    • @jinka6171
      @jinka6171 3 месяца назад

      @@brandinojam24Cameron thinks who he is…..

    • @nosuchperson5578
      @nosuchperson5578 3 месяца назад +38

      ​@@brandinojam24lmao have you really never heard that phrase

  • @rileyb3d
    @rileyb3d 2 месяца назад +9

    "The best lifeboat for mankind is underwater." - Stockton Rush
    Go ahead and think about that statement for a moment.

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander7472 3 месяца назад +1925

    Stockton seems like he was told by a Greek oracle how he'd die. Knowing his classics, he didn't bother trying to avoid this fate, he just set out to give interviews that would seem as ironic and foreboding as possible after his death.
    "It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. We'll make sure of it."

    • @leethax100
      @leethax100 3 месяца назад +131

      This makes more sense than whatever other delusions he was actually under

    • @sidequestsally
      @sidequestsally 3 месяца назад +75

      this is an amazing take, I love it

    • @bingbong3221
      @bingbong3221 3 месяца назад +113

      It's a legendary tale of hubris, no joke. The ancients would've immortalized him in a myth or epic. Unfortunately for Stockton, we have 4K video.

    • @obfuscated3090
      @obfuscated3090 3 месяца назад +15

      Never attribute to anything else what can be explained by hubris and stupidity.

    • @terribleivan1475
      @terribleivan1475 3 месяца назад +17

      “Be a part of history”

  • @wheresmyskin
    @wheresmyskin 2 месяца назад +601

    He was too focused on being remembered as a pioneer. Broke all the rules like McArthur said, pushing the exploration like Musk. Not enough focus on engineering itself, more focused on being remembered. And now he is. Forever remembered as an example of what not to do.

    • @Evermourn1
      @Evermourn1 2 месяца назад +4

      Just like MacArthur. I thought it was an odd example for him to pick.

    • @LeSarthois
      @LeSarthois 2 месяца назад +34

      And the irony is.. he was not even a pioneer. While not exactly common, we have plenty of experience diving at Titanic levels and far beyond.
      He isn't even a pioneer of anything. Unless you count "cheaping out on stuff we have literally decades of backlog to know what works and what doesn't" as being a pioneer.
      But I guess in his head, it was pioneering.

    • @stagneso
      @stagneso 2 месяца назад

      He will be remembered as the greatest idiot.

    • @cjthorp4805
      @cjthorp4805 2 месяца назад +4

      He thought he was immortal

    • @Juandinggong
      @Juandinggong 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cjthorp4805everyone thinks that way until lights are shut off

  • @Bevzthejcs
    @Bevzthejcs 3 месяца назад +1063

    The way he piggy backed the safety record of all other submersibles to “prove” theirs was safe while not following any of their safety protocols is staggering.

    • @Argumemnon
      @Argumemnon 3 месяца назад +43

      Yeah it's like saying that elevators are the safest way to move around and then throwing yourself in an elevator shaft with some bubble wrap around yourself.

    • @Michael-yc5bp
      @Michael-yc5bp 3 месяца назад +3

      That is a flawed example. ​@@Argumemnon

    • @isaacs3413
      @isaacs3413 3 месяца назад +24

      @@Michael-yc5bp Ok making an elevator with some bed springs at the bottom and a rope that can only handle exactly the amount of weight required for the passengers. He was making something similar to the real thing, but without understanding multiuse stresses on materials such as carbon fibre and aluminium etc.

    • @isaacs3413
      @isaacs3413 3 месяца назад +1

      @MONEYBAGARTS Haha, he was being a stupid guy for sure. Might as well be looking for nemo with his level of understanding of physics. No nemo to be found but his body and those others to be for sure.

    • @slinkiegirl2001
      @slinkiegirl2001 2 месяца назад

      All the fixtures and fittings none was certified some came from camping world man was a snake oiled salesman

  • @juiceboxbug
    @juiceboxbug Месяц назад +10

    yo that ending shook me. great video man i genuinely enjoyed your narration and thorough research !! keep it up

  • @matmatteo8238
    @matmatteo8238 2 месяца назад +653

    "when the sun extinguishes" the earth would have already been turn into a hellish molten surface planet by its star's expansion. No hydrothermal vents will be left

    • @PresidentXi-i7k
      @PresidentXi-i7k 2 месяца назад +7

      Well mabey reeeal deep like but by then the real deep like would be a shallow lake over the Mariana's trench as the world burned.

    • @PresidentXi-i7k
      @PresidentXi-i7k 2 месяца назад

      Aldo if the hesd brings out ringwoodite water earthcwould turn into venus tech.

    • @ssuupa
      @ssuupa 2 месяца назад +58

      Like does stockton think that the sun would just politely extinguish itself 😂 that’s not how stars work lol

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude 2 месяца назад

      There are a couple ways to buy time and mitigate this. Remove as much of the greenhouse gases as possible, plant more trees and that will make the Earth much colder and would buy the Earth another few million years perhaps. Use an asteroid to tug the Earth at a gradual rate so it ends up past Mars. And carefully keep tugging it through the asteroid belt if need be, although past Mars is far enough.

    • @gee_emm
      @gee_emm 2 месяца назад

      In 7 billion years, when the sun begins to 'die', it will begin to heat, expand and either scorch or completely consume the inner planets. It is not a regular fire that will simply fizzle out. These people cannot distinguish sci-fi from reality. They watch films like 'Total Recall' and 'The Abyss' and build their mission statements around them.

  • @nonamenoname9322
    @nonamenoname9322 2 месяца назад +952

    Naming your sea vessel OceanGate when pretty much every controversy nowadays ends in the word “gate” was a choice.

    • @judithstrachan9399
      @judithstrachan9399 2 месяца назад +153

      When I saw the headline, I thought, “That’s clever, calling the Titan scandal ‘Oceangate’ just like Watergate.” I hadn’t heard of the company before.

    • @hannnn5048
      @hannnn5048 2 месяца назад +14

      @@judithstrachan9399i thought the same thing

    • @georgeboomgaard6805
      @georgeboomgaard6805 2 месяца назад +41

      @@judithstrachan9399 Don't forget "Heaven's Gate". That group thought they were going be with aliens. Whether underwater or outer space, both were screwed.

    • @lanagreen5736
      @lanagreen5736 2 месяца назад +25

      Wasn't there a controversy called "pizzagate"?

    • @mjleger4555
      @mjleger4555 2 месяца назад +13

      I thought about that also. Frankly, it was quite fatuous to choose a name that denotes failure! I also learned long ago that when someone says "Trust me" often, that's a red flag. Even if I was a billionaire, I wouldn't pay that kind of fare ($250 million per person!) Especially when there are already probably hundreds of pictures of the RMS Titanic in several museums from previous expeditions to her gravesite. Why go down to dangerous depths where it's completely black and difficult to see anything! Yeah, I know bathysphere's have search-lights on them but still, what more did they expect to see that hasn't already been available to see in museums -- pure avaricious folly!

  • @whatevr99
    @whatevr99 2 месяца назад +779

    Davy Jones: “Stop sending careless rich people down here, my locker is full enough as it is.”

    • @steveo601
      @steveo601 2 месяца назад +6

      He got a free Rubik’s cube out of the deal.Leave him alone😂

    • @IAmNotDiluc
      @IAmNotDiluc 2 месяца назад

      Hahaha

    • @mayo3648
      @mayo3648 2 месяца назад

      ⁠@@bennyrobles9194from Pirates of the Caribbean

    • @kkurrent66
      @kkurrent66 2 месяца назад

      kek

  • @denryuu3
    @denryuu3 Месяц назад +21

    You thought I wouldn't notice the Naruto music in there, didn't you (excellent choice lol)
    Thanks for the video!

    • @mousewizard
      @mousewizard 9 дней назад +1

      I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAUGHT IT LOL

  • @cabcalloway674
    @cabcalloway674 3 месяца назад +1623

    "When the sun extinguishes, there will still be hydrothermal vents..."
    Meanwhile the Earth having been completely swallowed by the Sun 1 billion years prior to the Sun's death:
    How smart was this guy supposed to have been again? I'm dumb as hell and even I know that's completely wrong.

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor 3 месяца назад

      The sun is only going to expand if humanity goes extinct before making it to space. There is no reason to allow this to happen if we/our descendants are still around.
      Doesn't take any super advanced technology, just a lot of manpower. More than most people believe can possibly exist, but that's only because it's so far outside our current experience that people can't imagine it.

    • @kozko-xe1xl
      @kozko-xe1xl 3 месяца назад +51

      Me too,i knew that,he was so full of BS..

    • @clem-lv2rw
      @clem-lv2rw 3 месяца назад +107

      also the Earth's core would've cooled down long before that iirc so that's doubly stupid

    • @frankfrimperton8266
      @frankfrimperton8266 3 месяца назад +87

      And even if he was purely talking about some sort of cataclysmic environmental disaster and not literally the sun “extinguishing”, underwater thermal vents would do fuck all for humanity surviving, even if it was at the bottom of the sea.

    • @jluke168
      @jluke168 3 месяца назад +92

      As far as I can tell, he was truly stupid, and operating under grandiose delusions. He hired people who would do as they were told, and fired those who raised concerns.
      Remember when Airbus had all the issues with their new composite wings? Basically they had to bond carbon fibre wings to metal supports. They spent an extraordinary amount of time and money getting it to work, and improving the carbon fibre manufacturing process. How do you know if it's 'worked'? You use non-destructive testing, so ultrasound or maybe even x-rays. Did oceangate do any of that? NO. Did they properly control the envirnoment when forming the carbon fibre? NO. (Contamination has a drastic impact on it's performance and longevity.)
      The thing had zero chance of being succesful given how they were 'engineering'.

  • @trollman591
    @trollman591 3 месяца назад +1661

    I served in the US Navy as a Submariner onboard a Thresher/Permit class Submarine. For those that do not know the USS Thresher SSN 593 was the lead boat of the Thresher class that was lost on 10APR1963 with all hands and some shipyard workers. It created the SUBSAFE program which I was a part of. After the loss of the Thresher the class was renamed the Permit class. It was still a little spooky when I checked onboard my boat USS Haddo and seeing parts labled USS Thresher SSN 593 knowing the history.
    Stocton Rush and his disreguard of the rules of safety just horrified me. When this was reported in the news sadly I knew everyone was lost. After the stories started coming out about how he ran his company and how the sub was designed made me even more angry. He fired one of his engineers because he told him that his design would fail. I had no problem with him going down with is creation but sadly he took innocent lives with him. I understand the dangers of being onboard a submarine. I lived that life for 6 years.The ocean is a very unforgiving envirnoment. It is not a place to "Break the rules just because I feel like it"

    • @Joker75113
      @Joker75113 3 месяца назад +13

      He pay the price and everyone do the risk.

    • @kenn1936
      @kenn1936 3 месяца назад

      The engineer that was fired - believe me, he was the lucky one. Why would you want to be linked to a catastrophic failure?? He got out of there and never looked back. Stockton Rush was a narcissist, he cannot be TOLD he is wrong!! He even boasted about breaking the rules!!! As for the other passengers - only the youngster didn't realise the dangers - the disclaimer said DEATh about 3 dozen times. You are signing something that screams DEATH, DEATH. DEATH!! No amount of money can fix STUPID!!! You would never ever get me on anything like this for free, heck you would never get me on this for £1 million - I don't like risky things. I wouldn't get on a carnival ride - you have to rely on others to maintain it. I feel the same about travel. Risky!!!

    • @thesilversurfer7136
      @thesilversurfer7136 3 месяца назад +56

      Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. It is appalling to me how some businesses leaders just have no care or concern for human lives. The arrogance of Stockton Rush is breathtaking.

    • @DaisyBeach23
      @DaisyBeach23 3 месяца назад +27

      Thank you for your service 🙏🙏🙏

    • @dakistle
      @dakistle 3 месяца назад +37

      Good to hear a real Submariner's opinion on Stockton Rush.

  • @alliu6562
    @alliu6562 3 месяца назад +554

    4:46 yes because there have been REGULATIONS for the past 35 years. These regulations were written in blood. They’re not just there to be inconvenient, they’re there to prevent completely unnecessary deaths. Rush, unfortunately, got to find out the hard way

    • @TrappedinSLC
      @TrappedinSLC 3 месяца назад +25

      That is the most baffling "logic" - did he never once stop to ask himself WHY there was such a good safety record?

    • @pyroclastixx6969
      @pyroclastixx6969 3 месяца назад +9

      I dont think he found out at all, He died almost instantaneously.

    • @judyhopps9380
      @judyhopps9380 3 месяца назад +9

      I do Scuba, so no where near these depths, but even then, the amount of safety checks and triple checks with equipment, personnel, and the environment are all reinforced by the mantra: checklists are written in blood. Once your head goes underwater you are in an environment that in its natural state, will kill you. This video was enlightening, but infuriating.

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 3 месяца назад +3

      It's true. Maritime law comes from dead people who never returned home.

    • @mcrain1283
      @mcrain1283 3 месяца назад

      @@pyroclastixx6969 I mean they were disconnected for like a minute before imploding

  • @johnmonahan6647
    @johnmonahan6647 12 дней назад +9

    "Safety is a pure waste"
    And that is how rich people think.

  • @biggestofallmikes2997
    @biggestofallmikes2997 3 месяца назад +1886

    I feel bad for the kid who only went because his dad wanted him to.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 3 месяца назад +428

      That's the real tragedy. Such a young life cut way too short just because he didn't want to disappoint his dad on father's day

    • @BADRHARI-t5r
      @BADRHARI-t5r 3 месяца назад +193

      yea that's the saddest part, other crew members had their lives lived already, but not the kid.

    • @katherinechatham9032
      @katherinechatham9032 3 месяца назад +165

      Very sad. If your child has a bad feeling about something their parent says they should do..as a parent you need to wake up and pay attention.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake 3 месяца назад +179

      That's not what happened. His estranged aunt made up that story so they would point cameras at her. His mother was still on board the Polar Prince at the time and had no access to the media. Once she got back on land, she said he was excited to go. He was even planning to set a record for the deepest rubix cube ever solved.

    • @Chest3rTheSquirrel
      @Chest3rTheSquirrel 3 месяца назад +15

      only guy I feel bad for who was on that sub

  • @bonchidude
    @bonchidude 2 месяца назад +1414

    It took 1/10 of a second for the vessel to implode. They did not even know what hit them. It was quick but brutal.

    • @KOSMOS1701A
      @KOSMOS1701A 2 месяца назад +308

      Scott Manley put it best "At those depths humans stop being biology and start being physics"

    • @virtualgambit577
      @virtualgambit577 2 месяца назад +163

      Implosion yes. But the dread of being unable to climb, the sounds of the hull. That’s something they would’ve heard.

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 2 месяца назад +118

      @@virtualgambit577 1/10 of a second. If they heard anything, it was probably at the same time they ceased to exist

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude 2 месяца назад +99

      @@virtualgambit577 They heard sounds and while there was some concern it was not alarming, but when it happened it was in a blink of an eye. They might have a bad vibe about the noise. the families need to sue

    • @Markus_Andrew
      @Markus_Andrew 2 месяца назад +111

      It was even faster than that, estimated between 1 and 35 milliseconds (depending on which sources you consult). A millisecond is a one-thousandth of a second, so at most, about 35/1000 of a second. It takes about 50-100 milliseconds for pain to travel from receptor to brain, and roughly the same for images to travel from eye to brain, and be processed. So yeah, it would have been over before they could possibly be aware of anything happening.

  • @immortanjoe9362
    @immortanjoe9362 3 месяца назад +766

    "When the sun extinguishes...."
    When we reach that time in our future and the sun does run out of fuel, the oceans will be gone because the sun will either scorch or envelope the earth as it expands into a red giant.
    This guy was considered intelligent and doesnt know basic astronomy?

    • @basstrammel1322
      @basstrammel1322 3 месяца назад +78

      He knew, he was just misleading whoever he was talking to there. As he did many times.

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine 3 месяца назад +33

      Not to mention that *animals* have only existed for half the time they're talking about much less humans. Two or three other sapient species could evolve from scratch by the time it's relevant.

    • @RetroviaProductions
      @RetroviaProductions 3 месяца назад +23

      Plus even if it did go the way he thought, the oceans would just freeze over 😭

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine 3 месяца назад +19

      @@RetroviaProductions There would still be liquid water at the bottom for a very long time, since the ice on top would insulate it, but the pressure would be so dangerous that just living in caves and using reactors for energy would be infinitely easier.

    • @LoonyYunie
      @LoonyYunie 3 месяца назад +3

      I wonder if he also thought California was gonna fall into the ocean some time soon, too.

  • @hearld9235
    @hearld9235 23 дня назад +8

    22:16 “Dont miss the opportunity to be part of history” Those 5 victims definitely be part of history. Rest in peace 🥀

  • @dylevente
    @dylevente 3 месяца назад +648

    his parents really set him up to be an eccentric millionare with a name like stockton rush

    • @petergamache5368
      @petergamache5368 3 месяца назад

      There's a name that has two paths: either private school or getting the snot pounded out of you.

    • @ManWhorse
      @ManWhorse 3 месяца назад +59

      Sounds like the main villain in a slobs vs snobs comedy. Should have a sweater tied around his shoulders

    • @ItsKirbyTime
      @ItsKirbyTime 3 месяца назад +68

      Ace attorney ahhh name

    • @bobdrago6965
      @bobdrago6965 3 месяца назад +5

      @@ManWhorseExactly!

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 3 месяца назад +17

      I think his money was part of the problem. It made him used to getting his way, and made him think he was above the rules.

  • @MrEnjoivolcom1
    @MrEnjoivolcom1 3 месяца назад +455

    I firmly believe James Cameron when he says they all watched and heard the very moment it imploded. He said they knew instantly that was it. That the searches and all wad pure show because they needed to appear as though they were trying.

    • @ferociousgumby
      @ferociousgumby 3 месяца назад +32

      Oh yes, the famous tapping noises.

    •  3 месяца назад +18

      They have to justify their budgets and use this as event to ask for more bucks like they will somehow gain time powers with a 20% budget increase.

    • @pauliewalnuts240
      @pauliewalnuts240 3 месяца назад +49

      Search & rescue teams always search for a person for atleast 3 days, which is the amount of time someone can survive without water. It wasn't just this sub.
      While the implosion was most likely the sub, they dont stop searching unless there's clear evidence the victims died. They can't be 100% sure it was the sub, so they continue searching just incase the noise was something else & they're still alive.

    • @desertweasel6965
      @desertweasel6965 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@ferociousgumbythey were tapping Morse code on the inside of the sub😂😂😂 no, they were already vaporized by that point.

    • @zarasbazaar
      @zarasbazaar 3 месяца назад +30

      The person from the US Navy who coordinated with the Titan crew said they are required to act as though it's a rescue until they get visual proof that it's a salvage.

  • @Barbaryotaku
    @Barbaryotaku 2 месяца назад +220

    Looking for sharks in a cute yellow sub sounds like a cool business. Should have stuck with that.

    • @skr4207
      @skr4207 2 месяца назад +1

      1 million dollar revenue beats 5k.

    • @Barbaryotaku
      @Barbaryotaku 2 месяца назад

      @@skr4207 true. The 5k income however would still be around to spend their cash.

    • @null_verdict
      @null_verdict 2 месяца назад +11

      ​@@skr4207Not if they're dead

    • @Six_Gorillion
      @Six_Gorillion 2 месяца назад +7

      Looking at sharks with rappers. Sounds a good time. As long as you don't let diddy on board..

  • @Zoro_lost_not_found
    @Zoro_lost_not_found Месяц назад +11

    Man dug his own grave an built 4 more coffins and his own then threw then the ocean

  • @ALUCARD9091
    @ALUCARD9091 3 месяца назад +1993

    It sounds to me. He wanted to explore the ocean because he was salty about SpaceX.

    • @alexanderulv3886
      @alexanderulv3886 3 месяца назад +139

      And there sure is more salt in the ocean than in space.

    • @Mqmn
      @Mqmn 3 месяца назад +27

      How is this your take away lmao

    • @christianhansen3292
      @christianhansen3292 2 месяца назад +93

      he was delusional. rich people ignore reality

    • @priyanshusharma1812
      @priyanshusharma1812 2 месяца назад +26

      Hey, the ocean is a amazing though whatever his intentions might've been you can't discredit the intrigue that oceans still hold to this day

    • @israelquiroz7245
      @israelquiroz7245 2 месяца назад +28

      I mean his whole life was a series of failures and him “choosing” something else to focus on… that he would later also fail at. That was the constant throughout his career.

  • @kingschwag4208
    @kingschwag4208 3 месяца назад +1143

    “When the sun extinguishes there will still be thermal vents in the ocean”….Stockton must have forgot/not know how the sun would get to that point cuz there would be no earth at the point the sun is extinguished

    • @alphadawg81
      @alphadawg81 3 месяца назад +94

      I thought the same thing.
      Was he really that ignorant regarding this matter?

    • @Jfieldsend94
      @Jfieldsend94 3 месяца назад +85

      There's like a small chance that we won't be engulfed by the sun before it collapses but by that point the earth would be boiling.

    • @joegrimes9232
      @joegrimes9232 3 месяца назад

      the sun expands engulfing the earth and collapses into a compressed space/time that we would fucking vaporise way before that even happened as the process takes millennia.

    • @jerrylong381
      @jerrylong381 3 месяца назад +57

      There might still be an Earth, but no oceans or life.
      Just more of this man's magical thinking.

    • @alphadawg81
      @alphadawg81 3 месяца назад +33

      @jerrylong381
      There won't be a earth . The sun will grow that much, turning into a Red Giant that earth will be "swallowed" by the sun.

  • @ThisisCitrus
    @ThisisCitrus 3 месяца назад +3700

    Its crazy that woman lost her grandparents to the Titanic, and now lost her husband to the Titanic.

    • @oldspiritart
      @oldspiritart 3 месяца назад +398

      No, the latter was the Titan. The sunken ship can’t be blamed.

    • @zakbrown9256
      @zakbrown9256 3 месяца назад +114

      And lack of braincells among the 3 people who went.

    • @lordvonsteiner2452
      @lordvonsteiner2452 3 месяца назад +263

      The titanic probably gave her ptsd at this point. And she wasn't ever on it.

    • @trolltrama9780
      @trolltrama9780 3 месяца назад +26

      ​@@oldspiritartshut up

    • @jasonrusso9808
      @jasonrusso9808 3 месяца назад +51

      ​@@trolltrama9780you first Playboy lol

  • @dashobie
    @dashobie 15 дней назад +6

    Oceangate offers you the opportunity to die underwater.

  • @12DollarMcChicken
    @12DollarMcChicken 2 месяца назад +526

    "Boeing assisted the creation of this Sub" well now we know lmao

    • @en0n126
      @en0n126 2 месяца назад +37

      It's funny too because you can bet that all Boeing did was teach them how you can make & attach a fiberglass tube. That's probably it, as they wouldn't really be able to speak to much else he was doing. Yet his "partnered with" designation is surely there to try to lend more credence to his unconventional design choices. Lots of places can teach you the same thing, but Rush had the money to go Boeing for his lesson so he could name-drop them.

    • @williamwallace9826
      @williamwallace9826 2 месяца назад

      Except that Boeing wasn't involved.

    • @en0n126
      @en0n126 2 месяца назад +4

      @@williamwallace9826 They literally show in the video that they claimed they were partnered with Boeing...

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper 2 месяца назад

      Not saying it was a conspiracy on their part, BUT, ignoring the blood they DO have on their hands and not thinking they'd want a maverick with money like Stockton "taken care of," is simply naïve

    • @12DollarMcChicken
      @12DollarMcChicken 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BronzeAgePepper now you’re cooking

  • @TheGuitarded1
    @TheGuitarded1 3 месяца назад +1749

    He talked a big game, but in the end couldn't handle the pressure.

  • @domdicenso1656
    @domdicenso1656 2 месяца назад +205

    "Stockton Rush" sounds like a name for a millionaire bad guy from the James Bond movies. It's almost to perfect really.

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- 2 месяца назад +1

      Except he was a fool, not a bad guy. He didn't try to delete anyone.

    • @mikek9297
      @mikek9297 2 месяца назад

      @@encycl07pedia- He was a greedy idiot who wanted to claim the riches of the sea for himself but he realised he was runnng out of lifetime to do it so he began to rush through and ignore safety.., that's a bad guy. An entitled, selfish blowhard with overinflated ego who thought he was smarter than everybody else.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 2 месяца назад

      Or a line of cocaine.

    • @jamesmunn576
      @jamesmunn576 2 месяца назад

      ​​ @encycl07pedia- Unironically, not following the strict guidelines... he, in fact, is.
      Fixed it for you Nazi. Thanks!

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesmunn576 he, in fact, is.*
      Stop butchering English.

  • @skylinerudy
    @skylinerudy 2 месяца назад +47

    Not the Naruto panic music at 26:22

    • @soccerstreak75
      @soccerstreak75 20 дней назад +2

      thank u lol I was looking for this. Like aww shit its getting serious now

    • @ladybananas9738
      @ladybananas9738 18 дней назад

      Lmaoo I said the same thing😭

    • @insane355
      @insane355 10 дней назад

      I scrolled way to damn looking for this comment 😭

  • @peter572
    @peter572 3 месяца назад +429

    Stocton's ambition reminds of the people who climb mount Everest and K2 without oxygen tanks. Sooner or later the unforgiving nature will get you!

    • @shawnalfaro6943
      @shawnalfaro6943 3 месяца назад +11

      hubris

    • @joeakajoe1
      @joeakajoe1 3 месяца назад +19

      Im guessing you mean the non climbers who scale Everest, the people that dont use oxygen are usually seasoned climbers who are used to dealing with the thin air

    • @bluedistortions
      @bluedistortions 3 месяца назад +9

      Yeah I think you have that backwards. The guys who can climb without oxygen have practically lived on the mountains, like the Sherpas. Their bodies have changed due to the harsh environments.
      It's the people who only want to climb one mountain, and decide it's going to be Everest, who join a massive tourist group of novices who endanger themselves and others.

    • @peter572
      @peter572 3 месяца назад +8

      @@bluedistortions I agree with your analogy, but numerous Sherpas have died due avalanches etc and perhaps a handful due to altitude sickness. Sherpas are better adapted to cope with the Death Zone, but they are not invulnerable. Numerous world famous mountaineers have died on the unforgiving peaks (highest kill ratio is on K2), some if not most on the way back., during the descent. It is called the Death Zone for a reason and whoever goes there without oxygen tanks is playing a Russian roulette with a loaded gun!

    • @jeanremi8384
      @jeanremi8384 3 месяца назад

      look, I hear you. Counterpoint : We wouldn't even have seen what those peaks looked like without ambition against an unforgiving nature.

  • @cczeroX
    @cczeroX 2 месяца назад +1185

    "When the sun extinguishes, there's still gonna be life under water" - how to you get to an engineering degree not knowing that when the sun winks out it takes the entire solar system with it?

    • @samuelrosenbalm
      @samuelrosenbalm 2 месяца назад

      When it becomes a black hole, yes. But in some of it's phases, which will last a virtual eternity, while the sun would extinguish life as we now know it, in truth, life may very well continue under water for a time, as it provides several more atmospheres of protection. With the right technology, humanity may end up spending the vast majority of it's existence under water, beginning past the far, far beyond. Maybe learn to broaden your horizons before you go badmouthing your betters, those who at least had the courage to look beyond and dare mightily. There will always be naysayers who sit back on their asses, accomplish nothing, and laugh when great men who have accomplished something fall.

    • @DystopiaWithoutNeons
      @DystopiaWithoutNeons 2 месяца назад +104

      Even ignoring that, by that time how much energy would earth still have in its mantle? If a nuclear gas furnace we called the sun, orders of magnitude bigger than the Earth has already been extinguished in practical terms (I know there will still be a white dwarf), what energy does earth have by then?

    • @threePwny
      @threePwny 2 месяца назад

      Not necessarily. As the sun expands into a red giant, it's not even certain whether it'll consume Earth. Granted, even if it doesn't totally continue Earth, it'll still get far too hot with far too intense radiation for anything on the surface, including the oceans, to survive. But Earth just might avoid total destruction as a planet, and there will likely be at least a billion years where evolution of life will become viable on the outer planets. But once it loses too much mass and becomes a white dwarf, it'll be far too cold on those outer planets for life like ours, even though they'll probably still be intact

    • @wobblemind
      @wobblemind 2 месяца назад +44

      Exactly my thought! Lol I am starting to think that this guy wasn't particularly bright 😌

    • @KanuckStreams
      @KanuckStreams 2 месяца назад +89

      And even before the sun is extinguished, it will *expand* into a Red Giant, which will engulf Earth.

  • @dutchvanderlinde5004
    @dutchvanderlinde5004 2 месяца назад +652

    That was so dumb. Most of us knew they were all dead while the media pretended for days they could be alive. Only an idiot would have gotten on that thing.

    • @Kakomonour
      @Kakomonour 2 месяца назад +53

      You know you did an ASS decision when Dutch Van Der Linde himself says it was dumb

    • @volbla
      @volbla 2 месяца назад +48

      Lol, that reminds of the onion's "autistic reporter Michael Falk" reporting on some missing hikers, and he just tells everyone they're obviously dead.

    • @Ant1ev0
      @Ant1ev0 2 месяца назад +6

      man you are so smart!

    • @Ant1ev0
      @Ant1ev0 2 месяца назад +4

      at least yo got a plan, right

    • @demilung
      @demilung 2 месяца назад +3

      Media needs your clicks, this is the era of ad views

  • @miltonbuu
    @miltonbuu Месяц назад +7

    This honestly made me laugh, but over time, it just brings frustration and anger

  • @Nicksonian
    @Nicksonian 3 месяца назад +302

    Rush was not so smart. He broke the rules that were in place for very good reasons. You break the rules and people die. His level of hubris and arrogance are disgusting and disturbing.

    • @Alfred-Neuman
      @Alfred-Neuman 3 месяца назад +15

      When I was a kid I built a small Titanic model from a kit, I painted it and everything. I'm not sure what happened with it but I think my mother just threw it in the garbage during one of our numerous relocations. Every 2 years or so we were moving somewhere else because every time she though she found a place where she could finally find happiness. She never understood it's a lot easier to be happy when you're a nice person and you're not constantly being super annoying with everybody around you...

    • @anjou6497
      @anjou6497 3 месяца назад +6

      Exactly. Part of him was like a spoilt little boy. It's like he never grew up.

    • @towhee3400
      @towhee3400 3 месяца назад +7

      THIS!!! There's a huge difference between *wisdom/intelligence* and *charisma.* Rush was INCREDIBLY charismatic, and while he was a knowledgeable man, he was not a wise nor intelligent one. A smart person would know the rules and safety regulations are THE REASON why no accidents had happened in over 50yrs. And now we see the direct result of why industry regulations are necessary to follow.

    • @ferrellsl
      @ferrellsl 3 месяца назад

      Definitely a case of FAFO. At least Stockton can't take anymore people with him now and more people will think twice when another clown like Stockton cooks up dangerous and wildly expensive underwater tours.

    • @junniebear49
      @junniebear49 3 месяца назад

      It’s insane people took this man seriously, but we seem to be in an age where idiots impress other idiots with bullshit and wealth. Elon, trump, Kanye, a lot of these celebrities…They think they are above the consequences of reality atp. Fools.

  • @TheBsmith97
    @TheBsmith97 2 месяца назад +340

    on a lighter note, Macklemore's love for sharks is so fucking wholesome.

    • @aguy7848
      @aguy7848 2 месяца назад +29

      Sharks are beautiful misunderstood creatures. They are so important and yet humanity has treated them horribly to say the least.

    • @positivelyno
      @positivelyno 2 месяца назад +3

      He should go swim with them

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 2 месяца назад +4

      It was delightful to see his excitement. Props to Stockton for giving him the opportunity.

    • @Simon123Pik
      @Simon123Pik 2 месяца назад +4

      Sharks are so fucking cool imo

    • @Simon123Pik
      @Simon123Pik 2 месяца назад

      ​@@aguy7848True

  • @SrFrancia0
    @SrFrancia0 3 месяца назад +574

    4:40 "In the last 35 years there hasn't been any injuries in submarines" he took that as a challenge

    • @Aye.Eye.Captain
      @Aye.Eye.Captain 3 месяца назад +9

      His gamer score is insane tho

    • @qoph1988
      @qoph1988 3 месяца назад +5

      As if that is some kind of magical effect that prevents any jackass in a homemade contraption underwater from injuring himself.

    • @garburto
      @garburto 3 месяца назад +9

      “And I took that personally.”

    • @fgggg4337
      @fgggg4337 3 месяца назад +4

      He said “I’m gonna break the streak”

    • @mitchellbarton7915
      @mitchellbarton7915 3 месяца назад +6

      "Statistically, they're the safest vehicle... Let's change that."

  • @BudFox3773
    @BudFox3773 Месяц назад +4

    “Statistically they’re the safest vehicles on the planet.” As a broke submarine accident attorney, I can confirm he is correct.

  • @mercedes.c.w.
    @mercedes.c.w. 3 месяца назад +911

    he was going to the Titanic, named his submersible Titan but then chose to use *rereads* Carbon Fiber?? Not Titanium??? it’s literally in the name

    • @laurenm3148
      @laurenm3148 3 месяца назад +77

      This is one of my favorite takes

    • @marcleewinser8534
      @marcleewinser8534 3 месяца назад +49

      Stockton Crush?

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 3 месяца назад +41

      There was Titanium - the inside of that tube they wrapped the carbon-fiber around was titanium if I remember correctly (correct me if I am wrong)...but titanium is a problem too! Why? It likes to form micro-fractures if you go to or near crush debth! That's why the US-Navy, the Royal Navy etc. don't build titanium subs! Ok, that an price! Titanium is hard to weld (the Soviets - who did build titanium subs! - found that out!)...still, a sub who can handle less and less debth as it ages (more and more cracks forming, thus less and less crush debth) is not cool, even if it will dive deeper than regular subs for the first few years of service!

    • @jackthurman2642
      @jackthurman2642 3 месяца назад +6

      I love this

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka 3 месяца назад +40

      The two ends of the capsule are titanium it's just that the main cylinder is not.
      Also, no one used carbon fiber on subs because it's simply the worst material for the job.
      Carbon fiber has great tensile strength. So, use it on a rope or whatever and it will work great.
      You need compressive strength on a sub. That's the ability to take the immense amount of pressure down there.
      Every time you took the sub down it got a bit worse due to wear and tear.
      Obviously, the smart thing to do would be to discard the sub after a couple of dives but Rush wanted to save money.
      Also, the porthole glass was not meant to take that much pressure. Maybe that is what went first.
      Either way, it was nice of him to turn rich people into fish paste.

  • @bejbimama6689
    @bejbimama6689 3 месяца назад +376

    14:36 That's not true. They didn't pass the tests for submarines because Rush not agreed to do them. He claimed that these tests were bad for carbon fibre construction. And he was right, because those tests were for real submarines, not carbon fibre coffins. Let's not forget that he fired the man who made warning note about the safety of the vehicle construction.

    • @glazierblue573
      @glazierblue573 3 месяца назад +14

      "We risk Capital, not people!"
      That didn't age well ☹

    • @soldierbreed
      @soldierbreed 3 месяца назад +2

      Do subs not need to undergo failure test like planes. Were you have to simulate usage untill failure. So you would go okay it breaks after 10 dives so we have to take it out of service after 5 dives.

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 3 месяца назад +4

      @@bejbimama6689 "We don't need old white guys telling us what to do"

    • @brianwells6918
      @brianwells6918 3 месяца назад

      @Ayedidyae You should write a blog post,or make a video explaining to laymen all the engineering and construction issues. I bet a lot of people would be interested.

    • @minorityofone1510
      @minorityofone1510 3 месяца назад

      Every nut and bolt on a submarine is tested and traceable. This idiot had the gall to compare a jerry built cylinder with a playstation controller to a submarine 🤡🤡🤡

  • @jamesmir89
    @jamesmir89 2 месяца назад +153

    He partnered with Boeing to ensure safety. Nice.

    • @MarioKartSuperCircuit
      @MarioKartSuperCircuit 2 месяца назад +4

      Boeing and safety doesn't seem to go hand in hand lol

    • @theflash691
      @theflash691 2 месяца назад +8

      @@MarioKartSuperCircuit
      “If it’s Boeing I’m not going”
      “If it’s OceanGate it’s up to fate”

    • @scottguertin261
      @scottguertin261 Месяц назад

      Not to mention that Boeing and all of his other partners have denied that they were part of the process.

  • @mug1996
    @mug1996 14 дней назад +2

    the devil strike me down but twitter and tiktok when the submarine exploded was absolutely golden. I was crying from laughter for weeks at a time 😭

  • @ContagionV
    @ContagionV 3 месяца назад +215

    "This is why you want your pilot to be an engineer"
    This dude was an egotistical businessman and hustler. A supposedly "smart" engineer who touts the safety of submarines, would know safety rules and regulations exist for a reason.

    • @ramr7051
      @ramr7051 2 месяца назад +10

      He was unwise, but he was still very intelligent. Just sadly arrogant and wrong.

    • @kaiyote7924
      @kaiyote7924 2 месяца назад

      ​​​@@ramr7051 Intelligence and wisdom are not equivalent. The buzzphrase of "there is more than one measure intelligence" is often misconstrued. But Stockton proved it's relevance...
      1. Smart/intelligence; the ability and ease to learn and recall
      2. Wisdom/adaptability; the ability to apply that intelligence pragmatically to new situations
      3. Reflective intelligence/diligence ; the ability to test and retest, the accountability to value verification beyond and above ones-self.
      Challenger O ring whistleblower "do the right thing, no matter the cost" not adhering to that it could be argued is what led to the US space program fall into privatized hell... To be surpassed by foreign adversaries, yet still to recover and keep up. All because hearing "yes" was more important than long term national security and competency.

    • @jumpsuitCD
      @jumpsuitCD 2 месяца назад +1

      You can always tell a businessman vs. engineer based on their outlook on regulations

    • @CocoWantsACracker
      @CocoWantsACracker 2 месяца назад +2

      The worst part in my opinion is that he did not live to be prosecuted for all kinds of things he did wrong and/or to be mocked by pretty much everyone alive.

    • @Six_Gorillion
      @Six_Gorillion 2 месяца назад

      @@ramr7051 So intelligent he used brittle carbon fibre instead of industry standard titanium to save money and died with innocent people because of it.
      Peak CEO behavior.

  • @srf2112
    @srf2112 2 месяца назад +261

    Ironically, by virtue of taking himself out, Stockton Rush remade submarines into the safest vessels again.

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude 2 месяца назад +10

      carbon fiber will get u jail time at this point.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bonchidude At least for this purpose. Might be able to make it work safely for those within 100 meter dives
      Just not y'know
      Attempting 4000

  • @ODST626
    @ODST626 3 месяца назад +621

    Rules and regulations are written in blood. Their blood will be used in newer rules and regulations.
    Remember kids. The rules are there for a reason. And more often than not it's to keep you alive.
    A shocking amount of people don't realize how many rules are there to protect you from yourself.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 3 месяца назад +11

      yeah and this is why had he replaced the carbon fiber hull when it was done instead of keeping on going with it he would have been an innovator but instead he buried his head in the sand instead of being an innovator with ocean gate because the carbon fiber hull was breaking down like the shell of an air liner breaks down over time the difference with air liners is when they reach the end of life the planes retired and replaced instead of what ocean gate did

    • @domfjbrown75
      @domfjbrown75 3 месяца назад +18

      Tombstone technology. Happens all the time in the aviation world. Boeing, anybody? That's a case of putting Greed over engineers. Same as Challenger.

    • @sambranton3346
      @sambranton3346 3 месяца назад

      Noone knows exactly why it failed, only assumptions, the media gaslit you all to repeat the hull failed. I'm sure it did but maybe some one did something to make sure it failed the moment did, ironically around the same time as Hunters guilty plea. The perfect smokescreen. If you think these people wouldn't go to such lengths to keep their wealth and power look at 9/11. Keep an open mind. Don't let them brainwash you.

    • @NotMoriarty1
      @NotMoriarty1 3 месяца назад +4

      @@domfjbrown75 well as I remember, challenger blowed up because of an O-ring

    • @buffhorses3632
      @buffhorses3632 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@domfjbrown75 Challenger blew up because they launched on a day that was too cold for the oring to properly seal. Had nothing to do with greed.

  • @lilypeach3786
    @lilypeach3786 12 дней назад +1

    Dude the edit of those last seconds in the video gave me chills in the same way those history channel shows used to. The editing is amazing!!

  • @panther105
    @panther105 3 месяца назад +214

    As soon as you hear "I want to be the Space X of the ocean" and *When the sun dies we can live in the ocean" then follows it by saying "You have to take risks ...etc" ...You had better run for the exit

  • @wasuh464
    @wasuh464 2 месяца назад +347

    "were gunna have cities underwater. People will be living down there"
    Bro wanted to become the real life Andrew Ryan

    • @JailerGamer
      @JailerGamer 2 месяца назад +21

      Bro has played too much Subnautica

    • @gunscontrol7
      @gunscontrol7 2 месяца назад +14

      nah he wanted to find the bioshock city

    • @rubyruby7573
      @rubyruby7573 2 месяца назад +20

      Stockton Had No Idea What It Took To Build Rapture

    • @rubyruby7573
      @rubyruby7573 2 месяца назад +4

      @@JailerGamer Bro Did Stockton Not Pay Attention To The Cyclops Maximum Depth With Upgrades Yeah The Titanic Is Deeper Than That

  • @Zedsdead83
    @Zedsdead83 3 месяца назад +949

    Those guys glueing it together with un gloved hands, wiping it down with a rag tells u all u need to no. Cowboys putting together a homemade pos.

    • @O___P
      @O___P 3 месяца назад +201

      I've seen people do epoxy tabletops under vacuum. If people put more care into making tabletops than deepwater subs, you know something's funky.

    • @Zedsdead83
      @Zedsdead83 3 месяца назад +16

      @@O___P exactly.😂

    • @night_owl365
      @night_owl365 3 месяца назад +50

      I thought the same thing. This thing could pop like a balloon and you're being so cavalier about it.
      Even if they are billionaires, they were lied to. Especially the father and son.

    • @chadimirputin2282
      @chadimirputin2282 3 месяца назад +41

      I've built airfix model submarines with better build quality and structural integrity than that thing. 😂

    • @owie4070
      @owie4070 3 месяца назад

      ​@@O___P damn 😮

  • @nycish7148
    @nycish7148 Месяц назад +7

    5:37 That hairline though 😂

  • @Ulvetann
    @Ulvetann 3 месяца назад +347

    "At some point safety is just pure waste"
    Famous last words. Literally.

    • @michaeldebidart
      @michaeldebidart 3 месяца назад +8

      Those were very likely not his last words, so no not literally

    • @captain007x
      @captain007x 3 месяца назад +2

      Which no airline everr said to it's passengers.

    • @zerkoff
      @zerkoff 3 месяца назад +1

      what i dont think stockton understood is that safety measures aren't there because something bad will always happen, but just in case it does

    • @rgfdg4y46
      @rgfdg4y46 3 месяца назад

      @@michaeldebidart Thank you. It is frustrating how people don't understand the term literally. It really isn't that hard.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 3 месяца назад

      he was correct, he just picked the wrong cutoff point

  • @JSXSProductions
    @JSXSProductions 3 месяца назад +123

    "This is our flagship vessel, the Titan. Named for my refusal to use titanium to build the part that's always built out of titanium for some reason."

    • @Six_Gorillion
      @Six_Gorillion 2 месяца назад

      Shoulda named it "crushed soda can" amirite lol

  • @K.Marie119
    @K.Marie119 3 месяца назад +455

    - The Titanic wasn't responsible for this farce, Rush was.
    - Building a functioning city at the depths near hydrothermal vents poses more challenges than space travel.
    - When the sun finally dies, if the Earth even still exists it won't be able to support life anymore. The atmosphere will erode, temperatures will soar, all the water will evaporate, etc.
    - Gee, I wonder WHY there hadn't been any accidents on private submersibles for so long...
    For a so-called genius, Rush sure has some awful "logic." I wonder if this whole mess could actually qualify as something like gross negligence or malfeasance, given all the warnings, blatantly ignoring why submersibles are built the way they are, etc. If I were a family member, I'd be consulting a lawyer.

    • @sclarin2
      @sclarin2 3 месяца назад +38

      he sounds more like a great bull$shitter than a genius to me

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 3 месяца назад

      So true it’s elementary school stuff that when the Sun starts dying it becomes a Red Giant and everything from Mars inwards (including Earth) will be incinerated. His underwater cities near thermal vents is infantile moonshine.

    • @kaneSbreh
      @kaneSbreh 3 месяца назад

      A lawyer cant do shit cuz all of the people that went on signed a waiver and accepted that it was experimental and that they could potentially die. Its their own fault.

    • @_GeneralMechanics_
      @_GeneralMechanics_ 3 месяца назад +6

      Yeah, that didn't work out so well in "Bioshock" either but at least that was fiction.

    • @OsirisLord
      @OsirisLord 3 месяца назад +18

      Both building cities on the bottom of the ocean or in a vacuum or near-vacuum environment presents the same hazard: if something goes wrong everyone dies. Remember how in The Martian a microscopic flaw in the fabric of his home got wider and wider every time he went outside until eventually one day it lead to a full depressurization disaster?

  • @DaWhiteWolffie
    @DaWhiteWolffie 2 месяца назад +1

    Love how you edited this! Very good documentary.

  • @bigrich6750
    @bigrich6750 3 месяца назад +215

    He was absolutely right. His future was underwater, and there, what’s left of his body, will remain for all time. I’m not an engineer, but I’ve been a scuba diver for over fifty years. There’s a reason scuba tanks are made out of aluminum or steel, and require pressure testing every five years. No matter what material you take underwater, it is subjected to pressure, and eventually the expansion and contraction takes its toll. Each 33 feet deep is one atmosphere of pressure. The surface is 14.7 psi. Go 33 feet deep, and you have doubled the pressure. That will easily burst your eardrums, unless you have equalized the pressure in your ears, or cause an embolism in your lungs if you come up too fast without exhaling. Go 12,000 feet deep and there is well over 5000 pounds per square inch of pressure, PER SQUARE INCH, that is, like a hydraulic vice, trying to crush whatever enters that domain. Anyone should have known that a composite was not going to last long under those pressures, but I certainly understand people trusting an authority figure who had convictions and seemed smart. I’m sure their families wish they had not.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 месяца назад +5

      Steel is a relatively non-fatiguing metal, depending on alloy, but alu is fatiguing. Pressure testing is important but incapable of revealing fatigue, they would need to be ultrasonic, electromagnetic and X-ray tested for that. The other approach is just put a high margin of design safety and have a clear guideline after what time or how many uses the tank must be discarded. The actual deformation in alu tanks is low enough that they are deemed safely designed, and after all there is an existing experience and the adequate lack of willingness to push the boundaries there.
      Composite is of course a fatiguing material as well, but the conscience for sufficient safety margin was missing in this instance, even pressure testing that was performed was not proper. The other problem is of course interfacing from composite pressure pieces to metal hull pieces - normally making a pressure vessel from adjoining dissimilar material sections is a big no-no.

    • @theMAKAproject
      @theMAKAproject 3 месяца назад +1

      There are plenty of carbonfiber SCBA cylinders. They've proven themselves for decades now. The only reason we don't use them underwater is due to the extra lead we would need to add to dive with them, makes them sorta useless for diving.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@SianaGearz metals tend to show signs of fatigue before failure. Carbon fibre is notoriously hard to check for it.

    • @bigrich6750
      @bigrich6750 3 месяца назад +12

      @@theMAKAproject Carbon fiber tanks will not work in scuba due to the extreme pressure scuba tanks are under in all phases of use. Carbon fiber can be used on the surface where there are not huge pressure changes, like there is with diving. They would not last in scuba for the same reasons the submarine did not last. The same thing that happened to the submarine would eventually happen to the carbon fiber tank, and that would be very bad for the diver. You are right that the reason they are used is because of weight, but not right that they are not used in scuba because they’re too light. They are not used in scuba, because you cannot fill them to the same pressures to which steel and aluminum tanks are routinely filled. Firefighters can’t have a 30 lb steel tank on their back, and they don’t need the volume of air a scuba diver needs, and their tanks are not subjected to the tremendous pressures from depth that scuba tanks encounter. Trust me, as someone who has worked in a dive shop filling tanks, and as a dive master and instructor, and humped hundreds of tanks on and off of boats, if a carbon fiber tank would work in scuba diving, the sport would fully embrace them, and the manufacturers would make billions in the scuba industry. They will not work in scuba for the very same reasons carbon fiber submarines don’t work. First, you cannot fill them to the same pressures as steel or aluminum. 3000 psi, is the normal fill pressure of a scuba tank, but to get that pressure in a cool tank, you often exceed it, understanding that the pressure will come down as the tank cools. Tanks heat up quite a bit from filling to the high pressures needed for scuba. A cold steel tank will be hot to the touch after filling. You cannot subject a carbon fiber tank to that over and over again, like you can with steel, and then send it down under 5 atmospheres of pressure where the pressure externally is over 70 psi on the tank. As you breathe from the tank underwater, the internal pressure is reduced and the external pressure starts trying to crush the tank. That doesn’t happen on the surface. On top of that, hydrostatic testing is required by federal law every 5 years. Scuba tanks are filled to 5000 psi and the expansion of the metal measured. If the tank has become brittle and does not expand, the tank is failed, and can no longer be used. I have steel scuba tanks in my garage that are 50 years old, and can still be used. You won’t find a carbon fiber tank still in use that long.

    • @a.s.h.5774
      @a.s.h.5774 3 месяца назад +2

      Well said

  • @stevethepirate8907
    @stevethepirate8907 3 месяца назад +750

    OceanGate, Heaven'sGate, Watergate, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

    • @liliya_aseeva
      @liliya_aseeva 3 месяца назад +73

      We in Russia already use "-gate" as the formable particle of composite words with meaning "scandal"

    • @cheeki3998
      @cheeki3998 3 месяца назад +32

      GOLDEN GATE???????? HELLO?????????????????????

    • @Frankensteins_Highboy
      @Frankensteins_Highboy 3 месяца назад

      ​@@cheeki3998flood gate

    • @newforestpixie5297
      @newforestpixie5297 3 месяца назад +55

      @@liliya_aseeva a few years ago in England there was an incident where a Cop wouldn’t allow some extremely important person beyond a security gate in Westminster/ Houses of Parliament whilst calling the indignant person a twat or something insulting . The ensuing hoo ha or fuss because of the persons’ status was literally labelled by tabloid newspapers as …Gategate ! 🙄🐢

    • @Peers..
      @Peers.. 3 месяца назад +45

      Pizza gate (US conspiracy)
      Party gate (UK covid related inquiry)
      Farm gate (something to do with Uk farming)
      We have loads in the UK, it's practically anything that we have an 'inquiry' into, they usually end up being a cover up

  • @DYNANiK
    @DYNANiK 3 месяца назад +392

    In the beginning they at least used a Playstation controller. In the end, they just used a cheap third-party controller lol That has nothing to do with the implosion, but it says a lot about their understanding of quality!

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor 3 месяца назад +35

      It looks like it's gonna break apart in your hands if you ever feel stressed and accidentally grip it slightly tighter than normal.

    • @jonny-b4954
      @jonny-b4954 3 месяца назад +16

      @@theuncalledfor That's how all those generic controllers feel. Fragile. At 12:35 They actually show them using a Sony controller

    • @NotMoriarty1
      @NotMoriarty1 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jonny-b4954 that’s exactly what I thought to

    • @AmsterdamHeavy
      @AmsterdamHeavy 3 месяца назад +66

      ...and wireless ffs. I wont use a wireless controller for gaming, much less something my life might depend on. Also, this fool would be the type to not have extra batteries on board.

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor 3 месяца назад +14

      @@AmsterdamHeavy
      I heard somewhere they had backup controllers on board, but... yeah, he does seem like the type to not have that. Why would you use such a cheap controller if you're smart enough to carry backups? I think whoever said that they had backups was just wrong. Probably. It's not like I actually _know,_ lol.

  • @matrixodlum4969
    @matrixodlum4969 4 дня назад +1

    i remember reading that the 19 year old didn’t want to go. he did it to make his dad happy.

  • @philippvoid1800
    @philippvoid1800 3 месяца назад +371

    "after we have trashed the surface of earth, we can go ahead and exploit and trash the bottom of the ocean"

    • @MeadeJ67
      @MeadeJ67 3 месяца назад +2

      Cry.

    • @Khymeira
      @Khymeira 3 месяца назад +21

      @@MeadeJ67 me when i'm regarded and think i live on Earth 2

    • @slsthewriter1299
      @slsthewriter1299 3 месяца назад +15

      Fortunately, I don't really buy that's going to happen the way he thought it would, because there's a reason why so many animals literally evolved to leave the ocean. The ocean is scary. It is far less merciful than the land is.

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine 3 месяца назад +9

      Seriously, these people are like locusts with stock options.

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 3 месяца назад +2

      Then we will go to Mars and trash it too.

  • @TReeseTV
    @TReeseTV 3 месяца назад +243

    They aren't statistically the safest vehicle on the planet because it is a Submarine. Its statistically the safest vehicle on the planet because of the strict safety standards that have been set.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake 3 месяца назад +9

      And because the vast majority of those "15 million" passengers went 12ft deep on a 2 hour shore excursion from a cruise ship. Not quite the same thing.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 месяца назад +5

      That be submersibles, short-dive underwater vessels.
      Submarines have resulted in numerous deaths due to failure. Remember Kursk?
      Furthermore if you have a medical emergency on one, without any vessel failure, qualified external help isn't coming for a long time.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake 3 месяца назад +6

      @@SianaGearz Stockton specifically says *commercial* subs. Because yeah, there have been hundreds of deaths on military ones. Thousands, if you include German U-boats.

  • @czechmate8287
    @czechmate8287 3 месяца назад +92

    The whole ".... and Boeing, on the design of our
    Hull" aged about as well as the advertisement for the dive itself.

  • @blaze6408
    @blaze6408 Месяц назад +2

    Not the Naruto background music 🤣 Great video!

    • @dragonbond88
      @dragonbond88 Месяц назад +1

      bro I died when I heard it 😂😂😂😂