I would have to agree with the way you sorted them. Just one point that you missed that's probably the most important one. And that is, the LaserMATIC is the *only machine* that works in absolute coordinates with absolute precision because of the fixed honeycomb. _By the way, it's pronounced, "Rowlee", named after a man called Roland._
It’s amazing how much the capabilities and specs of these machines have changed since this video came out. Just as an example, the wecreat now has a pass through, and they also now have a 40 watt machine. Also, it has a pull out drawer, and had it even when this video was shot.
For me, S1 belongs on the S Tier because of the things it can do: like the conveyor belt. I mean, which one of these machines can cut and engrave materials up to 3 meters in length. This is perfect for me as an interior designer. For the first time I was able to engrave intricate details on cabinet door panels that is, sometimes, as long as 3 meters.
Thanks for another useful video. If you have a moment, where does your Thunder "Bolt" sit in this lineup? That's the machine I am most interested in. Obviously you could not cover everything, and one important factor you overlooked is maintenance. For example, the Roly requires removal of several tiny screws to clean the lens and shroud, while others use magnets and other methods. For me, difficult maintenance could be a deal breaker.
If you're open to content suggestions / requests, I'd be very interested in a video comparing the maintenance and upkeep requirements of these (and other) "consumer" lasers.
It doesn't sit in this lineup, because it's a CO2 laser. Compare it with OMTech Polar, Gweike Cloud, Flux Beambox/Hexa, xTool P2 (and Glowforge Pro if you must).
I did like this comparison. HOWEVER. I've got to call you out just a small bit. I just bought the S1 after some considerable research. The full enclosure did sell me the most, but the extra features really made this purchase a no brainer. I find it odd that you didn't mention that the S1 has all the attachments. Extra modules (like IR laser, and 20W laser switchout, + future ones), The Rotary attachment, the riser for thicker material option (which also give you the pull out crumb tray feature), the pass through capability with the riser. The Fire extinguisher module option. The conveyor system module which allows for 10 FEET material.Do all the other machines offer this? I purchased all the above (except for the 20W, which I may still buy).
Yeah the S1 seems superior in almost every way compared to the Falcon2 Pro. You could try to say there is no camera, but the one in the F2P is just an external usb web cam that you plug separately into your PC... there's nothing stopping you from sticking one on the X1. It's really that janky.
I am loving my Atomstack A70 Max. So powerful for a diode. The only downside is the non--enclosed part, but I just run it in my garage with the door open and fans running.
Can i please have your honest perspective. Which would you chose between the Roley, the S1, or the M1 Ultra? I have never seen/heard of Roly until seeing this video. Does Roly have their own software, or does it use Lightburn?
I own the F2P as well and I'm a bit saddened by the inability to raise the z-height on this unit, despite being promoted on Creality's own listing page. I suggest anyone looking into this printer be VERY cautious. You're paying a lot of money for a supposedly versatile tool. If you think someday you might use a rotary tool on this thing -- you probably won't. The tray CANNOT be removed to extend the legs so you can fit a rotary. The device uses a magnetic switch to detect when it's removed, and shuts off the laser. So just be aware that you are basically buying a $300 CNC laser with a $20 lid on it and a PC case fan to vent it.
So i dont know about the others, but i will say your xtool s1 is a basic setup. With how they sell them they always bundle things. So i just got on the easter sale, i do think there is a big gap between just the base machine and what they are actually selling. Like the riser base was tossed on with everything. But going with max config and having thr conveyer adds a whole lot more working area than others.
Nice video. I operate a fiber laser for work, cutting mostly 5’ x 10’ sheets of 1/8” aluminum. Every once in a while I get this feeling that it would be nice to have a really small scale machine at home for hobby stuff, but I’m not in a place where I could drop $1000+ for just a hobby machine. Maybe the pricing will get more accessible as the technology matures, like it has for 3d printers (one can hope).
I'm thinking of an 80w Omtech. I looked at Monport and I couldn't even contact them with the supplied number, so it was a huge red flag when they aren't even available to take a call.
The Xtool S1 doesn't fully support Lightburn. There are several features that you cannot access through Lightburn. Also, I and many (most) S1 users find the marking system superior and more precise than a camera
Then why does the P2 have not 1, but 2 cameras? The positioning system is beyond time consuming if you want to use a pre used piece of wood that has blank areas scattered around.
do they all have adjustable heights or are you pretty much stuck with one height or relatively one height? Some of them look pretty short which means there will be no engraving things like a tumbler.
Does the enclosure prevent the use of a rotary equipment to engrave on cylindrical object? The open-air frame seems easier to raise upwards to create enough space for the rotary and the glass/cup/mug item.
It was not an apple to apple comparison, suppose people want to buy a 40W or 20W machine, there should be a 40W vs 40W or 20W vs 20W comparison instead of a mix. It was kind of a mid-leading using $/w jumping from different watts.
The $/W was the best way I could try and make it apples to apples. The hard part is most of these machines offer different wattages and not all of them are exactly the same. The $/w wasn’t the main thing that I used to decide on my rank (pretty sure it would have been the same even without), but I wanted to give some kind of reference for people to see how much power you are getting for the money. For me at least it was surprising to see how the 70w from iKier was not super expensive considering the wattage but the Glowforge Aura is. I do like that most companies offer interchangable modules so you really are deciding more on the platform and then figuring out which module to get.
I’m wanting to cut acrylic sheets approximately 40x40. 1 what type of laser would you recommend and 2 what would be a budget friendly one I could purchase. Thanks in advance!
Awesome video! Have been on the fence about which engraver/cutter to get and have been leaning towards the Falcon Pro 2 as I love Creality's 3d printers. Very helpful!
Creality has a really good deal on the falcon 2 pro, making it 160 something dollars cheaper than the LaserMATIC. Would you still prefer the lasermatic? (Both 20w)
There are two classes of enclosed diode lasers: craft and hobby. In the craft class, I'm curious why you decided to include the Aura and WeCreat but skip xTool M1 which might be older but still comes out better than Aura, and the WeCreat is basically a somewhat improved clone of. There's also the new Flux Ador which is again very similar in form factor to xTool M1 and WeCreat.
@@makeorbreakshop Will this be on the radar at some point do you think? Would love to know what it can cut metal wise. I'd think they'll happily send you one!
Ive got an algolaser delta. Unless they improve the reliability i dont recommend it. When it works its decent but its buggy. Support is trying so i give them that
@@1-Nice-Guy All brands have their pros and cons. Not a fan of closed ecosystems but... they are going to take over GlowForge on that business model :P Machines are nice htough so is the new tech they are adding so....
I don’t like their advertising model, and the way they treat current customers. I also feel they deceive their customers by how they market their lasers…example, they say the S1 is a Class 1 Laser and goggles are not required, but if you order the conveyor, they include goggles. Also, the front and rear access panels don’t have interlock switches, so the laser can be operated with them open and could result in permanent eye damage. None of this info is on their site, feel free to check your self.
@@1-Nice-Guy I think - although i get your point - you are conflating concepts. S1 out of the box is a Class 1 safety standards machine. MEaning, there are no laser light leaking possiblitities. The moment you start modifying the machine - which is what conveiyer does. - you loose that safety standard. Now, i do agree it should be clarified, but brands - specially at this level of budget machines - cannot also nanny people around. Is a catch 22 situation. I am also not particularly a fan of their marketing but fair is fair.
Just upgrading my Roly with an XTool Fire safety set. I’m not happy to use XTool but there are no alternatives right now and it’s a standalone system, so it works with any enclosed laser you can fit it on, just don’t buy the S1 specific version.
I have to disagree on the D1 Pro being ranked low. I own the D1 Pro, F1, and S1. They all have their merits, but the D1 does something that my S1 cannot realistically achieve.... I can place it on any flat surface and engrave whatever I want. With that said, the F1 is still my overall favorite due to my own personal use case, but the D1 Pro is versatile... it has the room underneath for me to insert a full length baseball bat and use the rotary tool to engrave it. That wont fit on my others!
Do any of these machines have a fence? I use materials sometimes with certain patterns on them that I need the pattern to be square to the cut. I built one for my atomstack, but I’m thinking about going to one of these. Is there any desktop lasers (Diode or CO2) that have one? A camera is little too inaccurate because of the parallax of the lens.
So some have a fixed honeycomb, the Roly is like that it looks into place and you can reference off of it. Even if you don’t go the camera route you can use the framing option with the low power diode to get an exact position. A square would be a great option to add in though.
Get a Roly. You will love it. The honeycomb does not move around at all and the laser beam is aligned to within 0.5mm accuracy. It also has an optional jig table.
Given that 30-40W will cut 15 mm plywood and ~20+mm wood/particleboard, once you get into/past that 30-40w range size starts to be become the more important metric for many/most. A 3-400mm square 70w laser will for most be a LOT less interesting than a 500mm+ square 40W model and available space becomes the real limitation. I would buy a 600mm square 40W laser over a 300mm square 70w laser for a similar price and it wouldn't even be a difficult choice.....
Disagree - wattage is super important, and relating the price/watt to usefulness is good. What he could have done was done a review based on watt/$ as well as an overall review of lasers ranked by features. It's a well done video.
do you know anyone who would talk to me on the phone about laser engravers? I am a leather hobbyist who wants a laser engravers, i think? so far the two lasers i want to check out are both made in China, and i don't want to call china. i believe talking to someone more local, i have learned that even RUclipsr want to say the right things to get hit. that that they are lying, just not saying all of the con's about a laser. i get it , everyone had to make money to keep going. Like is lasers only good on Veg tan leather and not on chrome tan leather. things like that. i have seen a lot of lasers on leather, but there a big different between Veg tan and chrome tan leather.
@@makeorbreakshop mmmm make or break... ignoring the sore grapes comment (go figure why). I think the break part demands a "bluppers" vid one of this days 🙂
Damn...this cat goes in depth to provide us with his thought's on a few popular lasers that he's actually used and researched extensively.....and some of you people have nothing nice to say...."sell-out" @ThantiK?? WTF?? Sucks to be you man....I know a few classless acts like you who just can't resist posting nasty comments about everything to everyone....get a life dude.
I would have to agree with the way you sorted them. Just one point that you missed that's probably the most important one. And that is, the LaserMATIC is the *only machine* that works in absolute coordinates with absolute precision because of the fixed honeycomb. _By the way, it's pronounced, "Rowlee", named after a man called Roland._
I thought I mentioned the fixed honeycomb but that might have been in the dedicated review video. Thanks for letting me know about the pronunciation!
It’s amazing how much the capabilities and specs of these machines have changed since this video came out. Just as an example, the wecreat now has a pass through, and they also now have a 40 watt machine. Also, it has a pull out drawer, and had it even when this video was shot.
For me, S1 belongs on the S Tier because of the things it can do: like the conveyor belt. I mean, which one of these machines can cut and engrave materials up to 3 meters in length. This is perfect for me as an interior designer. For the first time I was able to engrave intricate details on cabinet door panels that is, sometimes, as long as 3 meters.
Thanks for another useful video. If you have a moment, where does your Thunder "Bolt" sit in this lineup? That's the machine I am most interested in.
Obviously you could not cover everything, and one important factor you overlooked is maintenance. For example, the Roly requires removal of several tiny screws to clean the lens and shroud, while others use magnets and other methods. For me, difficult maintenance could be a deal breaker.
If you're open to content suggestions / requests, I'd be very interested in a video comparing the maintenance and upkeep requirements of these (and other) "consumer" lasers.
It doesn't sit in this lineup, because it's a CO2 laser.
Compare it with OMTech Polar, Gweike Cloud, Flux Beambox/Hexa, xTool P2 (and Glowforge Pro if you must).
Love my Roly Mk2, support and customer service are 2nd to none!
They are great!
The way these things go on sale and are constantly updated, it's going to be pretty interesting to see what they come up with next. Great video.
Thx. I assume these are all diode lasers? If so, would you be able to do a video like this for desktop co2 lasers please?
I think Snapmaker Ray 40W deserves up your chart man! Its high fidelity and precision, very accurate and safety precautions are an important factors.
Scanning through this...can someone please tell me where in the video the question is answered which is promised in the title: The best one?
I did like this comparison. HOWEVER. I've got to call you out just a small bit. I just bought the S1 after some considerable research. The full enclosure did sell me the most, but the extra features really made this purchase a no brainer. I find it odd that you didn't mention that the S1 has all the attachments. Extra modules (like IR laser, and 20W laser switchout, + future ones), The Rotary attachment, the riser for thicker material option (which also give you the pull out crumb tray feature), the pass through capability with the riser. The Fire extinguisher module option. The conveyor system module which allows for 10 FEET material.Do all the other machines offer this? I purchased all the above (except for the 20W, which I may still buy).
Yeah the S1 seems superior in almost every way compared to the Falcon2 Pro. You could try to say there is no camera, but the one in the F2P is just an external usb web cam that you plug separately into your PC... there's nothing stopping you from sticking one on the X1. It's really that janky.
I am loving my Atomstack A70 Max. So powerful for a diode. The only downside is the non--enclosed part, but I just run it in my garage with the door open and fans running.
Can i please have your honest perspective. Which would you chose between the Roley, the S1, or the M1 Ultra? I have never seen/heard of Roly until seeing this video. Does Roly have their own software, or does it use Lightburn?
I own the F2P as well and I'm a bit saddened by the inability to raise the z-height on this unit, despite being promoted on Creality's own listing page. I suggest anyone looking into this printer be VERY cautious. You're paying a lot of money for a supposedly versatile tool. If you think someday you might use a rotary tool on this thing -- you probably won't. The tray CANNOT be removed to extend the legs so you can fit a rotary. The device uses a magnetic switch to detect when it's removed, and shuts off the laser. So just be aware that you are basically buying a $300 CNC laser with a $20 lid on it and a PC case fan to vent it.
Thank you for sharing this info!
Thanks for putting this out man. It really reinforces my decision. I still can't believe how fast you were able to get this out. XD cheers brudder
Thanks!
So i dont know about the others, but i will say your xtool s1 is a basic setup. With how they sell them they always bundle things. So i just got on the easter sale, i do think there is a big gap between just the base machine and what they are actually selling. Like the riser base was tossed on with everything. But going with max config and having thr conveyer adds a whole lot more working area than others.
When you said IKIER, I thought IKEA made a laser cutter and you suddenly turned British.
Haha
Innit?
Out of all of the machines you just reviewed….. which can do cylindrical items?
V-Rollers vs Linear Rail and/or Precision Ground Rod is another aspect that has me intrigued. What is your opinion on all that?
Nice video. I operate a fiber laser for work, cutting mostly 5’ x 10’ sheets of 1/8” aluminum. Every once in a while I get this feeling that it would be nice to have a really small scale machine at home for hobby stuff, but I’m not in a place where I could drop $1000+ for just a hobby machine. Maybe the pricing will get more accessible as the technology matures, like it has for 3d printers (one can hope).
Can we get this, but with CO2 lasers?
Love your videos. I want to try my hand at making my own small jigsaw puzzles for kids. Any advice on what machine I should get? Thanks!
So, why did not include the Xtool M1 machine?? Since you included the Glowforge at 6w?
Do you think you could successfully start and maintain a business with the MK2? Or do you think a diode laser would be outgrown?
I'm thinking of an 80w Omtech. I looked at Monport and I couldn't even contact them with the supplied number, so it was a huge red flag when they aren't even available to take a call.
Fantastic video. Just one correction, the XTool S1 is not fully Lightburn compatible, just the basic features.
Good point, the Lightburn stuff gets weird with xTool and WeCreat
What is the best laser engraver for extremely fine detail for home usage?
The Xtool S1 doesn't fully support Lightburn. There are several features that you cannot access through Lightburn. Also, I and many (most) S1 users find the marking system superior and more precise than a camera
Then why does the P2 have not 1, but 2 cameras? The positioning system is beyond time consuming if you want to use a pre used piece of wood that has blank areas scattered around.
It's older technology.@@1-Nice-Guy
do they all have adjustable heights or are you pretty much stuck with one height or relatively one height? Some of them look pretty short which means there will be no engraving things like a tumbler.
Does the enclosure prevent the use of a rotary equipment to engrave on cylindrical object? The open-air frame seems easier to raise upwards to create enough space for the rotary and the glass/cup/mug item.
Can you make video review for SweetShape 3 in 1 laser cutter machine?
Informative video, thank you.
May I ask in your opinion which is the quietest to operate
Roly mk2 30w
Creality falcon 40w
Xtool S1 40w
kind regards
Can all the lasers you mentioned in the video also do laser cutting?
yep
Everyone forgets that the CREALITY 40watt can also be switched to 20(22?) watt as well. Why is this feature always overlooked???
D1 pro is great - just put an enclosure around it...cheap and effective.
It was not an apple to apple comparison, suppose people want to buy a 40W or 20W machine, there should be a 40W vs 40W or 20W vs 20W comparison instead of a mix. It was kind of a mid-leading using $/w jumping from different watts.
The $/W was the best way I could try and make it apples to apples. The hard part is most of these machines offer different wattages and not all of them are exactly the same. The $/w wasn’t the main thing that I used to decide on my rank (pretty sure it would have been the same even without), but I wanted to give some kind of reference for people to see how much power you are getting for the money.
For me at least it was surprising to see how the 70w from iKier was not super expensive considering the wattage but the Glowforge Aura is.
I do like that most companies offer interchangable modules so you really are deciding more on the platform and then figuring out which module to get.
Could this sort of laser engraving device be used to engrave words onto plastic wall switch plates, to label what each switch does?
thanks for making this! ( also i did get an xTool ad before your video started lol )
I’m wanting to cut acrylic sheets approximately 40x40. 1 what type of laser would you recommend and 2 what would be a budget friendly one I could purchase. Thanks in advance!
Awesome video! Have been on the fence about which engraver/cutter to get and have been leaning towards the Falcon Pro 2 as I love Creality's 3d printers. Very helpful!
AtomStack had also came out with a 70W, i have not looked at review yet for it however. I do like my S1, i replaced my D1 Pro with it
Creality has a really good deal on the falcon 2 pro, making it 160 something dollars cheaper than the LaserMATIC. Would you still prefer the lasermatic? (Both 20w)
There are two classes of enclosed diode lasers: craft and hobby.
In the craft class, I'm curious why you decided to include the Aura and WeCreat but skip xTool M1 which might be older but still comes out better than Aura, and the WeCreat is basically a somewhat improved clone of.
There's also the new Flux Ador which is again very similar in form factor to xTool M1 and WeCreat.
Have you had a chance to try out the new Ikier 20W Fiber Laser ?
Not yet
@@makeorbreakshop Will this be on the radar at some point do you think? Would love to know what it can cut metal wise. I'd think they'll happily send you one!
does the falcon2 have its own program? i wanting a machine but have not decided yet.
Ive got an algolaser delta. Unless they improve the reliability i dont recommend it. When it works its decent but its buggy. Support is trying so i give them that
Another great video, love all the info you put out.
Thanks for the comment!
Can the xtool S1 20watt be upgraded to 40watt?
I am waiting for a galvo combo all in one system like the diode lasers are getting.
I need to cut clear acrylic so which one is better for that without breaking the bank? Thanks
For clear acrylic you’ll need to go with a CO2 machine. Diodes won’t be able to do that.
@@makeorbreakshop Thanks
Hey, why not include Xtool M1? You mentioned the Glowforge Aura, I think both compete on the same market, like craft and hobbyists. Thanks.
Can’t get the we create in the uk anymore
Oh man good to know
Great video. Side note. Xtool - Lightburn compatibility on S1, F1, and P2 is a bit.. wonky. Work is being done on that though
I would avoid XTool at all costs!
@@1-Nice-Guy All brands have their pros and cons. Not a fan of closed ecosystems but... they are going to take over GlowForge on that business model :P Machines are nice htough so is the new tech they are adding so....
@@yourlifeisyourfault.7273 I wonder this myself. Please explain 1-Nice-Guy. We want to know.
I don’t like their advertising model, and the way they treat current customers. I also feel they deceive their customers by how they market their lasers…example, they say the S1 is a Class 1 Laser and goggles are not required, but if you order the conveyor, they include goggles. Also, the front and rear access panels don’t have interlock switches, so the laser can be operated with them open and could result in permanent eye damage. None of this info is on their site, feel free to check your self.
@@1-Nice-Guy I think - although i get your point - you are conflating concepts. S1 out of the box is a Class 1 safety standards machine. MEaning, there are no laser light leaking possiblitities. The moment you start modifying the machine - which is what conveiyer does. - you loose that safety standard. Now, i do agree it should be clarified, but brands - specially at this level of budget machines - cannot also nanny people around. Is a catch 22 situation. I am also not particularly a fan of their marketing but fair is fair.
Do any of these diode laser cut and engrave mirrored acrylic? I heard you have to have a CO2 laser for that.
One can often place tape over the surface to be able to cut mirrored materials
Anyone’s that have a camera and auto focus with easy software that can also do leather and cups and plastic plaques ?
Just upgrading my Roly with an XTool Fire safety set. I’m not happy to use XTool but there are no alternatives right now and it’s a standalone system, so it works with any enclosed laser you can fit it on, just don’t buy the S1 specific version.
On Amazon, Jogoswall makes an tiny Automatic Fire Extinguisher for $40.00
the wecreat vision does have a tray
Roly mk2
Surprised to see that the Polar wasn’t on your list.
I didnt do the best job setting this video up, these are desktop diode machines, so I didn’t include anything on the CO2 side like the Polar.
@@makeorbreakshop ah, I was beginning to suspect that. Thanks for clarifying
I have to disagree on the D1 Pro being ranked low. I own the D1 Pro, F1, and S1. They all have their merits, but the D1 does something that my S1 cannot realistically achieve.... I can place it on any flat surface and engrave whatever I want. With that said, the F1 is still my overall favorite due to my own personal use case, but the D1 Pro is versatile... it has the room underneath for me to insert a full length baseball bat and use the rotary tool to engrave it. That wont fit on my others!
Nerd fact: The letter rating is also used in rating dungeons.
does ROly sell in Europe ?
can u make europe list
Do any of these machines have a fence? I use materials sometimes with certain patterns on them that I need the pattern to be square to the cut. I built one for my atomstack, but I’m thinking about going to one of these.
Is there any desktop lasers (Diode or CO2) that have one? A camera is little too inaccurate because of the parallax of the lens.
So some have a fixed honeycomb, the Roly is like that it looks into place and you can reference off of it. Even if you don’t go the camera route you can use the framing option with the low power diode to get an exact position.
A square would be a great option to add in though.
Get a Roly. You will love it. The honeycomb does not move around at all and the laser beam is aligned to within 0.5mm accuracy. It also has an optional jig table.
@@Fobes Well… .5 mm is about as accurate as I could ask for. Might look into that. Thank you!
That jig table looks awesome, reminds me of a fixture plate on the CNC mill side of things.
Given that 30-40W will cut 15 mm plywood and ~20+mm wood/particleboard, once you get into/past that 30-40w range size starts to be become the more important metric for many/most.
A 3-400mm square 70w laser will for most be a LOT less interesting than a 500mm+ square 40W model and available space becomes the real limitation.
I would buy a 600mm square 40W laser over a 300mm square 70w laser for a similar price and it wouldn't even be a difficult choice.....
Size for sure helps as you go up in power.
Tbh I think the price per Watt is a highly artificial non-informative number.
Disagree - wattage is super important, and relating the price/watt to usefulness is good. What he could have done was done a review based on watt/$ as well as an overall review of lasers ranked by features. It's a well done video.
do you know anyone who would talk to me on the phone about laser engravers? I am a leather hobbyist who wants a laser engravers, i think? so far the two lasers i want to check out are both made in China, and i don't want to call china. i believe talking to someone more local, i have learned that even RUclipsr want to say the right things to get hit. that that they are lying, just not saying all of the con's about a laser. i get it , everyone had to make money to keep going. Like is lasers only good on Veg tan leather and not on chrome tan leather. things like that. i have seen a lot of lasers on leather, but there a big different between Veg tan and chrome tan leather.
Where is the phecda in here ? It’s just so much better that the 20w garbage of your video and way less expensive
Prices are ridiculous
Xtool over the Creality? I don’t think so bud.
Where’s your in-depth review ?
Luban is by far the weakest part of any Snapmaker experience. Given the time they have had to turn it into a solid product, it is horribly limited.
Yeah, why is everyone using S? Does it mean "Simply the best"?
S stands for "superior"
Glowforge customer support sucks!!
Xtool software sucks
xTool SUCKS!
With a name like Make or Break Shop...do you ever actually make...anything? Or are you just a sellout pushing laser cutters now?
I guess I just make you mad.
@@makeorbreakshop mmmm make or break... ignoring the sore grapes comment (go figure why). I think the break part demands a "bluppers" vid one of this days 🙂
Damn...this cat goes in depth to provide us with his thought's on a few popular lasers that he's actually used and researched extensively.....and some of you people have nothing nice to say...."sell-out" @ThantiK?? WTF?? Sucks to be you man....I know a few classless acts like you who just can't resist posting nasty comments about everything to everyone....get a life dude.