So very interesting and great food for thought and practice. The closed club face approach holds promise to sort my issues and I am off to the range to try that. Must say you are clearly very dedicated to be coaching during a downpour. Thanks so much.
Glad you like the video. A closed face offers a very different challenge for most golfers and can lead to a much more advanced release pattern. And yes, how annoying that it would rain right at the end. 🙄
Awesome explanation of the release mechanics. So counterintuitive. I was not aware that I am such a handle dragger. I introduced your drill to my practice. Huge gain in distance and better contact. Thank you. Great instruction
I have been swinging ever so slightly out to in and have been struggling to change that to in to out. Then I tried what you show here. To my surprise I was easily able to have the club shallow in transition, get on the inside and hit the ball before the turf. At this stage I have increased distance by 10% with a few up to 20% with a 7 Iron. With driver only 5% ATM. As you would expect I was already hitting it left, but I am now mostly going straight. It took just a few swings the straighten it out, the feeling is that the club is staying behind longer. OK only day one, but thank you so much.
I’ve been getting great results with a similar concept, except with one caveat. I heard somewhere on RUclips that the loft on clubs are setup with a particular lean of the shaft. Basically, if you soul your club prior to taking your grip, the grip will be progressively “weaker” as you go from wedges to driver, as compared to taking your grip with a vertical shaft with each club. So my wedges grip has become much much stronger, even when opening to get more bounce. My 5-iron, for example, sits relatively vertical, and I adjust my grip accordingly. My driver sits with the shaft leaning back. I’m still taking a bit stronger grip over all, but when I try to take a really strong grip I get a bad straight slice or a really nasty pull hook. So I stay with basically a neutral, two-knuckle grip, setting up with the club determined shaft lean.
Love this training technique. Brilliant. And you are absolutely correct, the mind + body connection is amazing. Propioception is extremely powerful, and I ❤ your "changing the task" approach. Again, Brilliant.
@@GolfCoachDrNoel Yes, former certified sports, strength and conditioning professional, along with high school and collegiate golfer. Attempting to rebuild my golf game after multiple decades away from the game ~AND~ now sporting a fantastic new case of arthritis in my right hip. So not only dealing with constant pain, but I am also now needing to learn a new way of swinging the club effectively.
Dr Noel - Why not just do perpetual motion swings in balance and without strain and watch/feel how the clubface sweeps the grass ? The golfer should be able to make a judgement of where the ball position should be in their perpetual motion swing to feel the type of compression that matches their intent (ie. a low or high shot, fade, draw , etc). Then monitor whether the ball trajectory actually matched their felt intent . Using that feedback , they can then tweak their grip , repeat the process again until the outcome matches their intent. I've always remembered what Wild Bill Mehlhorn once said , " Accuracy is just naturalness and judgment ".
Very good. To your point about striving to be less bound by the technical rules of the swing in order to make incremental improvements toward a more perfect swing, I've always been a big believer in "doing the opposite" (as you propose here), in other words, for the average golfer, "going to the dark side of the mind" in order to undo the 442,000 previously incorrect body control movements. One simply must "do the opposite" to some degree and for some length of practice time, in order to retain a small percentage of "new and improved muscle-memory" into one's previously existing swing. ... It may be natural to feel that if one were to "do the opposite" that some amount of bad things will stick and stay in their swing, but that couldn't be further from the truth, because a little bit of "do the opposite" is simply not going to undo the poor muscle-memory of the 442,000 bad golf swings that are deeply embedded in one's natural on-course golf swing. ... So, have a little faith in doing the opposite for a short period of practice time, because a little bit of that "opposite" will stay with you - not a lot, just a little bit - and at the end of the day you'll be just a little bit closer to a more perfect golf swing.
I'm guilty of being a handle-dragger. I find that if I can slow my overall tempo down and put more tension rather than torque from my left arm on the grip, I hit the ball much better.
Yes. Same pattern but allow the shaft to line up more at impact. Not so much an active release, just not keeping hands ahead as much. TBH the forward ball position does most if this for you.
So very interesting and great food for thought and practice. The closed club face approach holds promise to sort my issues and I am off to the range to try that. Must say you are clearly very dedicated to be coaching during a downpour. Thanks so much.
Glad you like the video. A closed face offers a very different challenge for most golfers and can lead to a much more advanced release pattern. And yes, how annoying that it would rain right at the end. 🙄
Awesome explanation of the release mechanics. So counterintuitive. I was not aware that I am such a handle dragger. I introduced your drill to my practice. Huge gain in distance and better contact. Thank you. Great instruction
I have been swinging ever so slightly out to in and have been struggling to change that to in to out. Then I tried what you show here. To my surprise I was easily able to have the club shallow in transition, get on the inside and hit the ball before the turf. At this stage I have increased distance by 10% with a few up to 20% with a 7 Iron. With driver only 5% ATM. As you would expect I was already hitting it left, but I am now mostly going straight. It took just a few swings the straighten it out, the feeling is that the club is staying behind longer.
OK only day one, but thank you so much.
I’ve been getting great results with a similar concept, except with one caveat. I heard somewhere on RUclips that the loft on clubs are setup with a particular lean of the shaft. Basically, if you soul your club prior to taking your grip, the grip will be progressively “weaker” as you go from wedges to driver, as compared to taking your grip with a vertical shaft with each club. So my wedges grip has become much much stronger, even when opening to get more bounce. My 5-iron, for example, sits relatively vertical, and I adjust my grip accordingly. My driver sits with the shaft leaning back. I’m still taking a bit stronger grip over all, but when I try to take a really strong grip I get a bad straight slice or a really nasty pull hook. So I stay with basically a neutral, two-knuckle grip, setting up with the club determined shaft lean.
Love this training technique. Brilliant. And you are absolutely correct, the mind + body connection is amazing. Propioception is extremely powerful, and I ❤ your "changing the task" approach. Again, Brilliant.
Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! Judging by your channel name, action/perception coupling is very much your thing?
@@GolfCoachDrNoel Yes, former certified sports, strength and conditioning professional, along with high school and collegiate golfer. Attempting to rebuild my golf game after multiple decades away from the game ~AND~ now sporting a fantastic new case of arthritis in my right hip. So not only dealing with constant pain, but I am also now needing to learn a new way of swinging the club effectively.
Dr Noel - Why not just do perpetual motion swings in balance and without strain and watch/feel how the clubface sweeps the grass ? The golfer should be able to make a judgement of where the ball position should be in their perpetual motion swing to feel the type of compression that matches their intent (ie. a low or high shot, fade, draw , etc). Then monitor whether the ball trajectory actually matched their felt intent . Using that feedback , they can then tweak their grip , repeat the process again until the outcome matches their intent. I've always remembered what Wild Bill Mehlhorn once said , " Accuracy is just naturalness and judgment ".
Great videos, thanks! Re: slowing the hands ....... to crack a whip or cast a fly rod you must try to stop the hands for best results.....
I enjoyed your video. Mike Malaska has talked for years about how the handle slows down,
Very good.
To your point about striving to be less bound by the technical rules of the swing in order to make incremental improvements toward a more perfect swing, I've always been a big believer in "doing the opposite" (as you propose here), in other words, for the average golfer, "going to the dark side of the mind" in order to undo the 442,000 previously incorrect body control movements. One simply must "do the opposite" to some degree and for some length of practice time, in order to retain a small percentage of "new and improved muscle-memory" into one's previously existing swing.
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It may be natural to feel that if one were to "do the opposite" that some amount of bad things will stick and stay in their swing, but that couldn't be further from the truth, because a little bit of "do the opposite" is simply not going to undo the poor muscle-memory of the 442,000 bad golf swings that are deeply embedded in one's natural on-course golf swing.
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So, have a little faith in doing the opposite for a short period of practice time, because a little bit of that "opposite" will stay with you - not a lot, just a little bit - and at the end of the day you'll be just a little bit closer to a more perfect golf swing.
Excellent presentation doc
Many thanks, much appreciated.
Great video lesson tips
I'm guilty of being a handle-dragger. I find that if I can slow my overall tempo down and put more tension rather than torque from my left arm on the grip, I hit the ball much better.
Is this type of swing good for a 74 year old guy or will be damaging to my back and if so should I be more ‘army’s’?
Like the not too much thinking idea.
Yes, we all like that. Sometimes it has to get 'mindy' but if there is a another way then we tend to respond better.
Great video. How do you drag right hand to compress with woods and driver? Doesnt it require some kind of relaese?
Yes. Same pattern but allow the shaft to line up more at impact. Not so much an active release, just not keeping hands ahead as much. TBH the forward ball position does most if this for you.
Got it. Thank you for the great tips and videos pls keep going!
Absolutely brilliant 👍👍
Wow! Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Will this work with woods
Absolutely! The changes in set up are enough to adjust the pattern to sweep a wood.
Draggers V Flippers KO at 3:00.
A v cheap training club would be to put a grip on an old club that sets the club up way closed and vica versa
That would work.
OK
Armsy