Daniel Cuevas the joker believes that if people recognize chaos, the people will lose morality and become a survival of the fittest type society. Later in the movie when he had the boats rigged to explode and the people could choose to live or blow up the other boat he was surprised to see they seemed to choose to sacrifice everything for an idea like justice or love. He expects the people to prove him right of not being a monster just being the beginning of a society of chaos and survival of the fittest this is just my take on it where it sounds like a philosophy a lot of people have had but it can mean whatever you want honestly
@@danielcuevas7234 By "the curve" he means the transition from a civilized person's mentality to an immoral "survival of the fittest" mentality, which is what he meant with "they'll eat eachother". "I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve" means I'm not a monster, I am just already at that final stage, that "eat eachother" mentality while the civilized people are still at the beginning, thus "behind" the curve.
I dont think he was actually imitating him because his voice changes like that from High Pitched to Deep throughout the movie.. He delivered his lines perfectly! He knew when to make it Dark!..
Actually he would have won in the end too, but Batman sacrificed himself just so the reputation of Harvey remain intact. The bombs on the boats was just part of the plan, it didn't mattered that much, what actually mattered was Harvey's reputation which he almost destroyed in public.
I would argue that the joker is not in control per say, he's just the only one willing to accept that he's not in control of anything. He just pushes 'buttons' (people), sees what happens and goes with it. It's just that he's very good at pushing those buttons and has a good grasp on what people will do especially when things aren't going their way or as they are "supposed to go".
"You...You have, *nothing* to threaten me with" I've always loved this quote because it ties back to what Alfred said about some men who can't be reasoned with or bought or bullied. Joker has no one and nothing to lose. He doesn't care about people or money he only cares about proving his point about how Batman is just like everyone else and that he will break his one rule eventually. that he's savage, unwavering and reckless, that was the point, that was Joker's mission and purpose, not to break Batman physically but mentally. He wanted to watch Batman's world burn.
His aim was more to prove how laws and morality aren't as evolved as evil is. How being on the good side requires sacrifice, and how evil is so easy to achieve. His objective had nothing to do with the batman, because Batman was just the pawn he'd use to prove his point. I have a feeling that from how unsurprised batman was when Dent dies, that Batman KNEW Joker was right all along. Maybe even knew that Joker would win.
Not a Guy with a plan ? You actually believe him ? He's a liar. It was a lie so convincing that the audience believed it and thought that the contradictions to his statement later were a Result of bad writing. He only told Harvey that to shift the Blame to Batman , Gordon and his men and Maroni and his men . While he DIDN'T kidnap Harvey and Rachel per se , he DID orchestrate his incarceration and knew of Maroni's plan to kidnap Harvey and Rachel and that there's crooked cops in Gordon's circle , he DIDN'T have a plan exactly but he used the circumstances his enemies made to create a counter plan at the moment to manipulations Batman , the police , Dent according to his agenda. The Superior writing and PERFECT acting of this Joker were something else.
@@batmanvsjoker7725 because there is a time bomb on both Harcey and Rachel's location so what the joker meant was if they ran out of tine the bomb would explode and their corpses would fly everywhere around the room, hence they will be in several spots.
2:49 I like how Batman moves his head when joker says they’ll cast him out when they don’t need him. It’s like a subtle acknowledgement from Batman of “shit he’s right about that”
What makes Joker scary is how aware he really is. He’s really not insane as he feigns to be. He worships and envies insanity. To him, insanity is the ultimate state of chaos for the mind. As a self proclaimed agent of chaos, it’d be natural that he wants nothing more than to see Gotham’s most powerful protectors go batshit crazy, and the public along with them. It’s his only real concrete goal throughout the film other than taking out the rest of the mob. Which he only did so the people had no one to turn on but Batman and themselves.
@@Goofballhero shit, dude, I never thought of it that way! Makes the way he says “don’t talk like one of them, you’re not… even if you’d like to be” hit different now. Projecting a little there, Joker?
I disagree. He's definitely one of the best, but I would say Darth Vader is a better villain. Mainly because no one expected him to become a villain. The Joker is just kind of psychotic and crazy, but Vader could be a nice guy...if he wanted to be. You never knew what you'd get from Vader. See, if you saw the Joker in the streets, you'd say to yourself 'I'm not going to go anywhere near that guy' and run away. If you saw Anakin Skywalker in the streets, you might say hi, and he might just kill you for whatever reason he saw fit at the moment. Trust me, the latter is more terrifying.
Actually, I have seen your comment some 2 weeks ago...and today on date of 10th of Feb I am commenting that yup...thats 100% true, sir phoenix actually won the award...heads up my friend !!!
So the Joker knew the Batman would choose the girl, so the Joker told the Batman the wrong direction. This way, he shattered Batman's soul and at the same time, keep Harvey Dent so the Joker can gel him to his liking. Just wow!!!
@@ADifferentVibe Batmans spirit was broken. That is why he retired in the dark knight rises, only to be broken again by Bane physically and mentally after getting back into the game. Then he made another comeback. Alfred avoided Bruces heart to be further broken by burning Rachels letter. Batman is human.
acLewBert Actually, Batman loses. Sure, he physically helped catch the Joker. But the Joker knew how to break Gotham, Dent and even Batman. Think about it, Joker was gonna prove his point by either having Batman kill him or by turning Dent. Proving that when pushed, you too would be as evil. Batman had to cover for Dent, to protect his reputation and legacy. In doing so, Joker killed the Batman. Thus why Batman had retired until DKR.
@@theextremeanimator4721 Choose between one life or the other, your friend the district attorney, or his blushing bride to be! Laughs then gets punched in the face then laughs some more 😂 Heath ledger was the best joker ever
I also heard that the glass wasn't supposed to break when he smashed his head against it, don't know if it's true or not but still really commitment he is
On the contrary, those with influence, wealth, and everything to gain from it are the most powerful and dangerous people on the planet. Those with nothing to lose are completely powerless before them. Sure, people of the latter are incredibly desperate, and willing to do anything, but that never matters, because the elite have every tool they could possible hope to have at their disposal to stomp on them until they are _nothing._ The silver lining is the more that powerful people stomp on the little man, the less stable their house of cards gets. I'm tired of being stomped on. I'm sick of it. It's driving me mad. I wanna see it collapse. So... BADLY!
“They’re only as good as the world allows them to be “, one of the best lines delivered without any punch and in an simple but insanely deep conversation. Heath Ledger just didn’t just raise the level, he straight up broke it
If you notice, Joker gives everybody the "dead eye" when he looks at them. Batman is the only person he truly "sees". The rest, he looks right through them.
@@nicholaswhite8140 Joker doesn't care about who Batman is(possibly because he already knows). I doubt this movie would just drop that part of his character when every other part of his character was in this portrayal
I've always found it funny how the joker was always right, even when it would seem like he was wrong. At 2:40 he tells the batman how they are just using him, and would make him the enemy if they needed him to be one, and that's exactly what happens on the next movie, they make Dent the hero and turn the batman into a monster he never was.
@@martincurran6432 only and idiot wears a cloth mask thinking it’ll stop a microscopic virus lol. Do you use chain link fences as mosquito nets at your house too? Hahaha
"What would I do without you." I love that line. I like how nothing stops him; no amount of pain that he goes through will ever stop him from laughing. Laughs so much that even death can't help but laugh along.
Batman made Joker's life worth living again. He would never kill Batman, and he knows Batman would never kill him. Order vs. Chaos locked in an endless battle. Finding Batman was the happiest moment of the Joker's life.
That’s a great statement! Describes the evolution of Gotham’s authorities throughout the whole trilogy. In Begins the were corrupt. In TDK idealistic. In TDKR exploited.
Um, no, it really isn't...if anything, its more about Harvey Dent and his fall from the grace, and the drastic measures Batman had to take to fight crime and corruption. Joker played a huge part, but the movie certaintly isn't solely based on him entirely.
If you pay attention at 4:15 he says "killing is making a choice" that means choose=kill, and "you have to CHOOSE (kill) between one life or the other". By choosing Rachel, batman actually chose to kill Rachel, rather than saving her. That's why the directions were "wrong". Avenue x was not the direction to save Rachel but rather to kill her. Batman just did not understood joker's game.
I always come back to this scene. Aside from the brilliant writing and acting, it’s the subtext. Joker is a maniac but here you can tell he’s being genuine with Batman when giving the speech. He’s trying to tell him how the world really is. He obviously had a troubled past and must’ve been broken down by people or society to get to where he is now but He sees Batman who is a noble man trying to good for everybody and probably respects him for it. He’s open with him and tells him the truth because in his eyes it’s all futile.
And he speaks truth. You don't only see the madness in his character but he is also talking about the madness that is this fucked up corrupt world/society we live in today. Order followers lack conscience. Conscience is the exercise of free will, to determine to one's self whether an action they are about to take is moral or not. Order followers will carry out an order regardless of whether that action is moral or not, so by definition they lack conscience. They say "yes sir!" and carry out the order. Those cops, politicians, and lawyers are no different than The Joker's henchmen/thugs in that regard. They are all thugs.
It'sAustin no, he didn't. Gotham didn't turn to chaos and didn't lose hope. Batman took the fall and the Dent Act was passed that ended most organized crime. It just came at a tremendous cost for Bruce.
Christian Tompkins did you watch the movie, man? He turned Dent but Batman and Gordon hid the truth from Gotham. He was instead made a hero and city's legislation stopped organized crime for 8 years until The Dark Knight Rises. Joker definitely changed things but of all things, he didn't win. People on this app need more brains.
@@williams4901 More like him when he becomes self actualised completely. A more experienced and ruthless version of what we saw in the interview of Joker with Murray.
I still get very sad when I think about Heath Ledger and how he died so young. He played the best Joker in history at the age of 27. Incredible performance that cemented him into history. RIP legend.
Haha, this is the only movie i choose the hero to win. ..... But still joker is soo right. These civilians gonna eat each others when they have a chance. Hr is not a freak, he is a head of the curve. ...... That's why i like villians usually, they don't pick stupid codes about morality and break them for their own use. They simply live by their own rules and usually they have a plan for the world.
@@manassharma9437 Joker win. Because he prove, even good white knight (harvey) can become villain. But batman cover the truth that he lose to joker. Because if civilians know the truth. their trust in justice will fade away.
I love the simplicity of The Joker’s psyche. He simultaneously controls everything whilst exploiting the flaws in the “system”. *Simple, yet effective.*
Then you have never read the comics or his animated movies. He can put villains like the joker in jail, but he cant control the increasing madness in gotham despite his best efforts. It is a paradox, that is what makes batman stories so engaging.
@@sj0nnie I meant in control of himself, he's usually shown as calm calculated and always keeping a menacing, intimidating demeanor.. Here the dam breaks as he realises what has happened... BTW you're right though, I've not read the comics... Mostly due to bad availability...
"You... complete.... ME!!." Still gives me chills due to how psychotic that line is, two masterminds face to face, the worlds greatest detective and the mad lad we all know as joker.
Honestly Bale's acting performance in this film was quite underrated. Just look at how he makes Batman appear to slowly lose his control and to actually desire to kill the Joker. His eyes especially....
“Don’t talk like one of them. YOU’RE NOT! Even if you’d like to be. To them you’re just a freak, like me. They need you right now but when they don’t they’ll cast you out. Like a leper. You see their “morals” their “code” it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you when the chips are down these...uhh..these “civilized” people. They’ll eat each other. You see I’m not a monster I’m just ahead of the curve.” - Heath Ledger’s Joker 2008
I almost feel like the reason Batman snapped at 3:18 isn't because he was super concerned about Dent, but because the more Joker went on, the more he realised he was right, and he was too stubborn to let it show thus he changed the subject the quickest way he could.
The Joker movie is the greatest to come out of the franchise since this one. They explored a plausible origin of a realistic Joker and yet it was different enough to not be overshadowed by this classic
Yeah they kinda neutered him in the new film a bit. It's too bad Phoenix didn't have the creative freedom that Ledger did, I do wonder now how much farther he might have taken it.
1:00 this move with the forehead reminds me Jack Nicholson in the Departed. Which also he played the joker role. Seems Heath ledger study Jack Nicholson's joker so deep
My guess is to lure more people in to watch the video. Sounds stupid I know, but people do it sometimes to click on the video because it sticks out enough to annoy people
That single note starting at 3:46 is a masterpiece. Like an old fashioned water kettle, it slowly raises the tension within the air until reaching its boiling point.
"you have NOTHING to threaten me with." that was the most epic line ever. he was so right. joker wasn't your typical criminal, and he had batman by the nuts
Joker was 110% right. At the end of the movie Batman was cast out and when the ships were down (Bane’s occupation of Gotham) they all ate each other. Noone was proud of being a cop anymore. Joker knew Batman and Gotham better than anyone.
0:41 If you look closely you notice that when the Joker is emphasising on just how alone you really are his eyes look to the left corner and then closes them for a brief second, he definitely knew what was exactly right behind him the whole time. This is why Heath Ledgers Joker is the best of all time great subtle acting.
Hawk7743 yeah I think the prosthetics would dry and crack and it took like 3 hrs to reapply them so instead of that he would just lick his lips to moisten the prosthetics so they wouldn’t dry and mess up
I'm convinced of the origin theory that this version of the Joker started out as a special ops soldier. Hence why he has no record or means of identification, his entire existence was erased so he could do what he thought at the time was for the greater good. Except only he soon realized it was all a lie, he killed people, did unspeakable things all in the name of protecting a free world. But when he came home, that world didn't really exist, he was actually killing for the idea of it, but in reality it was just so a few self-important people got to keep things they way they wanted them. The mob wanted their money, Harvey wanted order, and politicians wanted votes, they say it's all important and worth doing it all for, but in the end It was really all just a cruel... sick... joke.
Joker to me seems too independent to have been a solider. He hates having anything interfere with his ideas and doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would tolerate getting yelled at by the chain of command such as occurs in the military. Kind of a lone wolf. Also, any civilian could learn the same skills as a soldier if they found the right person to teach them and Joker would have the money and connections to do that.
It makes a lot of sense. I've always thought of him probably starting out more as a highly intelligent operative working for the CIA - someone who'd spend a lot of his time in a suit or in disguise. I pictured him getting assignments that were more and more brutal where lines between right and wrong and where "playing by the rules" became more and more questionable. These assignments were morally ambiguous and, eventually he was betrayed by those in charge of him and betrayed by the "rules". In his mind, the situation was bigger than that - he was betrayed by society's rules as a whole. In this betrayal, he was beaten and tortured (by the "good guys" or the "bad guys"??) During that torture, he was given his scars. I'm picturing that somehow his love interest was involved and probably the man he trusted most - one of his bosses or handlers. His "wife", maybe a fellow operative and love interest who probably got too involved with the "bad guys" and paid the price for it. His "father", boss/senior officer who trained him and gave him the monstrous assignments that drove him over the edge. Or...maybe those people were all in his head. I don't think he started out as a clown who advertised for sandwich shops or visited kids in the hospital who inspired to be a stand up comedian.
1:25 Joker looks/knows someone is behind him or there. First time I noticed this. He looks left and then right like he is expecting something. That is amazing.
Ermant StuckInRealityguy I think that’s because the room was dark and the lights were turned on suddenly. Aren’t we all like that? We’re in a dark room and someone turns the lights on then our eyes are like destroyed so we close them
@@deus9906 no cause he wouldnt make it so obvious that he was looking behind him if that was the case, they did it on purpose to show how well he knows batman etc
@@nicholasberry8456 i think its just part of heaths great acting, he knows batman is gonna hit him so the whole thing is part of his act, it wasnt a real brace they wouldnt make it that obvious, he does loads of little things like that on his own accord in this film which is part of why he was so good in this
The entire movie, the joker take all the credits of this movie, just think about it, nobody talks about batman suit like the old batman, or the batmobile or something else, 99%of the people talks about joker,
I don’t think there could be any better cast of characters for this movie. Heath ledger absolutely nailed it as the joker and Gary Oldman was also brilliant.
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“I’m not a monster... I’m just ahead of the curve.”
I love that line!
Can someone just pls tell me what's this line means
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Daniel Cuevas the joker believes that if people recognize chaos, the people will lose morality and become a survival of the fittest type society. Later in the movie when he had the boats rigged to explode and the people could choose to live or blow up the other boat he was surprised to see they seemed to choose to sacrifice everything for an idea like justice or love. He expects the people to prove him right of not being a monster just being the beginning of a society of chaos and survival of the fittest
this is just my take on it where it sounds like a philosophy a lot of people have had but it can mean whatever you want honestly
@@danielcuevas7234 He could be talking about the "bell curve," which he was implying he was smarter than the average person.
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By "the curve" he means the transition from a civilized person's mentality to an immoral "survival of the fittest" mentality, which is what he meant with "they'll eat eachother".
"I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve" means I'm not a monster, I am just already at that final stage, that "eat eachother" mentality while the civilized people are still at the beginning, thus "behind" the curve.
Thanos: "You should've gone for the head..."
The Joker: "Never start with the head."
Hahahaha... Nice!!! 😅
It all depends on if the goal is to kill or torture.
Im pretty sure he means in a interrogation & definently for torture
@@franklyncap4691 He wasn't sincere about it for himself though. He still had Batman wrapped around his finger.
This is good advise for the weapon your using. Don't go for the head of you are using something that is blunt and go for the head with a sharp weapon
He died without knowing he is the best joker 😔😔💔
Mimosa Rai dying is better look how stupid everyone is these da- 😕 Oh wait... your eyes are still closed.
@@Huvrkrft lol wtf?
@@Lonesomepoet probably a sad kid
Jack Nicholson.
Joaquin's joker is the best
3:39 I love how he imitates Batman’s voice
Nice catch!
I dont think he was actually imitating him because his voice changes like that from High Pitched to Deep throughout the movie.. He delivered his lines perfectly! He knew when to make it Dark!..
For almost the entire movie, the Joker was basically in full control of all the situations
3:13
Actually he would have won in the end too, but Batman sacrificed himself just so the reputation of Harvey remain intact. The bombs on the boats was just part of the plan, it didn't mattered that much, what actually mattered was Harvey's reputation which he almost destroyed in public.
@@AakashSharma-le8pm and then bane came and revealed everything in dark knight rises
I would argue that the joker is not in control per say, he's just the only one willing to accept that he's not in control of anything. He just pushes 'buttons' (people), sees what happens and goes with it. It's just that he's very good at pushing those buttons and has a good grasp on what people will do especially when things aren't going their way or as they are "supposed to go".
“You’re Crazy!”
-Noo imm nottT. >:•}”
Joker straight up ate those punches and didn’t miss a beat.
Matter of fact Heath told Cristian to actually punch him in this scene
@@melloyellow0199 "as hard as you can" he said, if I may politely add
@G E T R E K T L
Just iron chin
@@melloyellow0199 Source: It was revealed to me in a dream
"You...You have, *nothing* to threaten me with"
I've always loved this quote because it ties back to what Alfred said about some men who can't be reasoned with or bought or bullied. Joker has no one and nothing to lose. He doesn't care about people or money he only cares about proving his point about how Batman is just like everyone else and that he will break his one rule eventually. that he's savage, unwavering and reckless, that was the point, that was Joker's mission and purpose, not to break Batman physically but mentally. He wanted to watch Batman's world burn.
His aim was more to prove how laws and morality aren't as evolved as evil is. How being on the good side requires sacrifice, and how evil is so easy to achieve. His objective had nothing to do with the batman, because Batman was just the pawn he'd use to prove his point. I have a feeling that from how unsurprised batman was when Dent dies, that Batman KNEW Joker was right all along. Maybe even knew that Joker would win.
That’s what proved how suited to the role Ledger was.
He proved that the Joker was INSANE.
Or that hes so heavily traumatized and exposed to violence from before, that physical violence doesnt threaten him.
Great point
Amazing comment
1:11 He Looks down Gordon's watch to know the time. Not a guy with a plan, but he really knows how to be on time
Never noticed that
Oh wow they really put in the little details
Not a Guy with a plan ?
You actually believe him ?
He's a liar.
It was a lie so convincing that the audience believed it and thought that the contradictions to his statement later were a Result of bad writing.
He only told Harvey that to shift the Blame to Batman , Gordon and his men and Maroni and his men .
While he DIDN'T kidnap Harvey and Rachel per se , he DID orchestrate his incarceration and knew of Maroni's plan to kidnap Harvey and Rachel and that there's crooked cops in Gordon's circle , he DIDN'T have a plan exactly but he used the circumstances his enemies made to create a counter plan at the moment to manipulations Batman , the police , Dent according to his agenda.
The Superior writing and PERFECT acting of this Joker were something else.
I never noticed that.
Good eye.
"Depending on the time, he could be in one place or several"
Beautiful line, chills
Truee
monavari no shit Sherlock
@Alejandro Feo Cecin I see what you did there.
Why? 🤷♀️
@@batmanvsjoker7725 because there is a time bomb on both Harcey and Rachel's location so what the joker meant was if they ran out of tine the bomb would explode and their corpses would fly everywhere around the room, hence they will be in several spots.
That bait and switch Joker pulled with Harvey and Rachel was brilliant.
he didnt batman got harvey
@Random RUclips Watcher Yeah and he wasn't thinking clearly. It costed Rachel's life.
Joker was telling truth but batman smacked his head . He was feeling fuzzy.
@@truffle6082 He saved Harvey because the joker wanted so. He knew that batman had feelings for rachel and that's why he switched the addresses.
@Random RUclips Watcher Tell me how?
2:49 I like how Batman moves his head when joker says they’ll cast him out when they don’t need him. It’s like a subtle acknowledgement from Batman of “shit he’s right about that”
Even bruce wayne would cast batman out after he no longer need that identity, so i think batman always know he sooner or later will be cast out
What makes Joker scary is how aware he really is. He’s really not insane as he feigns to be. He worships and envies insanity. To him, insanity is the ultimate state of chaos for the mind. As a self proclaimed agent of chaos, it’d be natural that he wants nothing more than to see Gotham’s most powerful protectors go batshit crazy, and the public along with them. It’s his only real concrete goal throughout the film other than taking out the rest of the mob. Which he only did so the people had no one to turn on but Batman and themselves.
Uu
@@Goofballhero shit, dude, I never thought of it that way! Makes the way he says “don’t talk like one of them, you’re not… even if you’d like to be” hit different now. Projecting a little there, Joker?
Fun fact: Heath Ledger actually asked Christian Bale to punch him in his face and he delivered. So those punches are powerful and real.
He's so kool for taking light punches wow
@@hames7497 actually heath asked bale to give it his all when he punches him
Probably he wanted to show how good actor he is. He would stay in character while he got beated.
Is it just me, or I've seen this same comment over and over again in all Heath's Joker videos...
@@ElvisFerbeyre not just you
" No.. No... you... you complete me... " Yeah Joker is THE legend among the all time villains.
I disagree. He's definitely one of the best, but I would say Darth Vader is a better villain. Mainly because no one expected him to become a villain. The Joker is just kind of psychotic and crazy, but Vader could be a nice guy...if he wanted to be. You never knew what you'd get from Vader.
See, if you saw the Joker in the streets, you'd say to yourself 'I'm not going to go anywhere near that guy' and run away. If you saw Anakin Skywalker in the streets, you might say hi, and he might just kill you for whatever reason he saw fit at the moment. Trust me, the latter is more terrifying.
Harshana Wijesinghe exactly!!!
@@827Drew wtf 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@abrahamgonzalez8270 Yeah, wtf? You didn't say anything. o.o
Drew B lmao that argument would only make sense if the prequels came out first. We came in watching those movies know where he’d end up.
The joker will always sound like he needs a glass of water
He need some milk
Honestly, so do I
Ledger kept cotton balls in his cheeks to keep his mouth dry
Andrew Bourdeau is that actually true ?
That adds to the psychotic, creepy nature of his character. The smacking of his mouth is fantastic.
If Phoenix wins an Oscar for Joker 2019, then the character Joker will be the only character in a superhero movie that has won two Oscars.
Which he will
@@KasinaMedeis Ya, I think Phoenix will win as well.
Actually, I have seen your comment some 2 weeks ago...and today on date of 10th of Feb I am commenting that yup...thats 100% true, sir phoenix actually won the award...heads up my friend !!!
He won
Who else won an oscar for a superhero movie? It think only Batman movies won Oscars for acting.
2:15 that laugh is amazing it sounds like he's a real psychopath. It sends chills down my spine and the line that comes after is great as well.
He sounds like a laughing uncle.
Hyena laugh
So the Joker knew the Batman would choose the girl, so the Joker told the Batman the wrong direction. This way, he shattered Batman's soul and at the same time, keep Harvey Dent so the Joker can gel him to his liking. Just wow!!!
@@ADifferentVibe Batmans spirit was broken. That is why he retired in the dark knight rises, only to be broken again by Bane physically and mentally after getting back into the game. Then he made another comeback.
Alfred avoided Bruces heart to be further broken by burning Rachels letter.
Batman is human.
acLewBert Actually, Batman loses. Sure, he physically helped catch the Joker. But the Joker knew how to break Gotham, Dent and even Batman. Think about it, Joker was gonna prove his point by either having Batman kill him or by turning Dent. Proving that when pushed, you too would be as evil. Batman had to cover for Dent, to protect his reputation and legacy. In doing so, Joker killed the Batman. Thus why Batman had retired until DKR.
@@ADifferentVibe joker won,joker made batman kill two face.
batsy broke the only rule he had
@@sj0nnie "THIS" Batman is human...the real Batman (comics Batman) is something more.
No , joker didn't plan . He's head got smacked by batman . He was feeling fuzzy remember. He's answer got mixed up
Does anyone else love his laugh? It is a psycho laugh, but so clown like at the same time.
Hee hee hee
@@nicholasberry8456 Nah man, that's MJ
4:24 still gets me
It's adorable.
@@Mike-yz6oo this scares me
Joker is just laughing harder as Batman punches him harder
The acting is on point👏
“I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve”.
This line makes sense after you finish watching Joker (2019).
Except for the fact that they both aren't related. The line makes sense even if you haven't watched The Joker.
“Does Harvey know about you and his little bunny?” Makes me laugh every time
WHERE ARE THEY 😂
Khilling is making a choice!-
@@theextremeanimator4721 Choose between one life or the other, your friend the district attorney, or his blushing bride to be! Laughs then gets punched in the face then laughs some more 😂 Heath ledger was the best joker ever
@@JJS595 yeah
KILLING IS MAKING A CHOICE
" No.. No... you... you complete me... "
- still a better love story than Twilight..
I wish I knew how to quit you
Old recycled garbage.
@@thea-ronator57 wrong movie 😂
And now the guy from Twilight will be Batman making the cycle complete.
Deus Ex Machina unintended foreshadowing
Heath said to actually hit him. He wanted the scene to be as real as can be.
I also heard that the glass wasn't supposed to break when he smashed his head against it, don't know if it's true or not but still really commitment he is
@@robinnool9983 He uses a dark glass shard to take a guard hostage in the next scene so I'd say it was intended to break.
Also I heard that Bale did punched him for real
I heard Bale fucked Ledger in the ass, so the "... You complete ME" line would sound convincing enough.
@@-Vitalis- bruh😂😂😂
The guy who has nothing to lose in life is the most powerful and dangerous guy on planet....
He has to be skillful
Sem Alvarez skillful in what?
Indeed. The guy who has nothing to lose and nothing to gain...
@@chuckyyes Tatics and leadership, otherwise you'll be able to do nothing and get shot on the head after your first transgression
On the contrary, those with influence, wealth, and everything to gain from it are the most powerful and dangerous people on the planet. Those with nothing to lose are completely powerless before them. Sure, people of the latter are incredibly desperate, and willing to do anything, but that never matters, because the elite have every tool they could possible hope to have at their disposal to stomp on them until they are _nothing._
The silver lining is the more that powerful people stomp on the little man, the less stable their house of cards gets. I'm tired of being stomped on. I'm sick of it. It's driving me mad. I wanna see it collapse. So... BADLY!
“They’re only as good as the world allows them to be “, one of the best lines delivered without any punch and in an simple but insanely deep conversation. Heath Ledger just didn’t just raise the level, he straight up broke it
That's mankind for you
If you notice, Joker gives everybody the "dead eye" when he looks at them. Batman is the only person he truly "sees". The rest, he looks right through them.
It’s cuz he wants to know who he is. He’s interested in him
@@NicholasPeters1 this is fiction....
@@NicholasPeters1 he knew who Batman was. Thats why he pinpointed Rachel
@@nicholaswhite8140 Joker doesn't care about who Batman is(possibly because he already knows). I doubt this movie would just drop that part of his character when every other part of his character was in this portrayal
Same mind seeks alike.
He delivers, “look at you go!” Perfectly.
I wonder what he mean’t by that?
@@firelightyear Just commenting on how "well" he's beating him. Mocking him, showing him he's not afraid.
@@firelightyear he’s basically intimidating him like beating him up will get him nowhere.
I've always found it funny how the joker was always right, even when it would seem like he was wrong. At 2:40 he tells the batman how they are just using him, and would make him the enemy if they needed him to be one, and that's exactly what happens on the next movie, they make Dent the hero and turn the batman into a monster he never was.
Tbf it was batman who wanted it like that. And "forced" Gordon to lie.
Heroes are champions of the masses, i.e. the dumb fools that do all the cleanup work for the mess that the mask-wearing wicked make.
@@Dowlphin only an idiot gets angry at the idea of people wearing masks. There's a virus going round
@@martincurran6432 where’d that virus go?! I’ll wait...
@@martincurran6432 only and idiot wears a cloth mask thinking it’ll stop a microscopic virus lol.
Do you use chain link fences as mosquito nets at your house too? Hahaha
"What would I do without you." I love that line. I like how nothing stops him; no amount of pain that he goes through will ever stop him from laughing. Laughs so much that even death can't help but laugh along.
Batman made Joker's life worth living again. He would never kill Batman, and he knows Batman would never kill him. Order vs. Chaos locked in an endless battle.
Finding Batman was the happiest moment of the Joker's life.
"they're only as good as the world allows them to be!"
-the joker!
I too watched the scene.
HelvetesSkitApa 🍪
That’s a great statement! Describes the evolution of Gotham’s authorities throughout the whole trilogy. In Begins the were corrupt. In TDK idealistic. In TDKR exploited.
and now they fight over toilet paper
Gothamlet 😄
The only movie that made the main character into co actor. This movie is about the joker 😂
Its me Ced I don’t think I’ve seen bigger facts then this
Infinity war and this
That movie should call the joker and batman, batman second of course. Joker steal the entire movie to batman
Um, no, it really isn't...if anything, its more about Harvey Dent and his fall from the grace, and the drastic measures Batman had to take to fight crime and corruption. Joker played a huge part, but the movie certaintly isn't solely based on him entirely.
Louis Rodriguez ehh naw
If you pay attention at 4:15 he says "killing is making a choice" that means choose=kill, and "you have to CHOOSE (kill) between one life or the other". By choosing Rachel, batman actually chose to kill Rachel, rather than saving her.
That's why the directions were "wrong". Avenue x was not the direction to save Rachel but rather to kill her. Batman just did not understood joker's game.
That's actually really brilliant. I think though a different Batman would've figured that out.
I think it’s not metaphorically meaning to kill rachee but to kill Harvey, by choosing to save Rachel he’s choosing to kill Harvey
I always come back to this scene. Aside from the brilliant writing and acting, it’s the subtext. Joker is a maniac but here you can tell he’s being genuine with Batman when giving the speech. He’s trying to tell him how the world really is. He obviously had a troubled past and must’ve been broken down by people or society to get to where he is now but He sees Batman who is a noble man trying to good for everybody and probably respects him for it. He’s open with him and tells him the truth because in his eyes it’s all futile.
4:26 When someone says Jared Leto was as good as Heath Ledger
When your crush wants to break up with you and you just...
ThatOneOddLookingDog ThatBarksAtYou I have unfortunatly come across some very dumb fanboys.
One of the best scenes ever. Truly showing the madness that is the Joker.
And he speaks truth. You don't only see the madness in his character but he is also talking about the madness that is this fucked up corrupt world/society we live in today. Order followers lack conscience. Conscience is the exercise of free will, to determine to one's self whether an action they are about to take is moral or not. Order followers will carry out an order regardless of whether that action is moral or not, so by definition they lack conscience. They say "yes sir!" and carry out the order. Those cops, politicians, and lawyers are no different than The Joker's henchmen/thugs in that regard. They are all thugs.
3:55 tbh this wasnt even necessary to throw him, he was already telling it lol
Batman was just upset 😔
3:07 he’s honestly speaking the truth people just wanna live in their little fantasyland until their bubble gets burst
You know what’s scary?
Joker was right about everything.
In the end, he won
It'sAustin no, he didn't. Gotham didn't turn to chaos and didn't lose hope. Batman took the fall and the Dent Act was passed that ended most organized crime. It just came at a tremendous cost for Bruce.
I would say this, he was right about EVERYTHING but didnt win because he didnt think batman would take it all on himself.
i mean the ferries didnt blow up like he expected... he turned dent but he still became the symbolical white knight until bane exposed him
Christian Tompkins did you watch the movie, man? He turned Dent but Batman and Gordon hid the truth from Gotham. He was instead made a hero and city's legislation stopped organized crime for 8 years until The Dark Knight Rises. Joker definitely changed things but of all things, he didn't win. People on this app need more brains.
In the end, Joker was not right about everything.
People are bad but they are good too.
They didn't blow up each other in the end.
Why does the joker make me feel like Batman is the villain
TheAnxoiusHero 21
because secretly? The Joker was right all along when you look back on it
@@tahakamran6196 He is right though.
Because he is. The real hero is joker.
TheAnxoiusHero 21 because your an incel
@@RameezRazaRiaz99 he's even more of a hero after watching the Joker movie even though it's a different universe
The “LOOK AT YOU GO!” and Joker cracking his back was the funniest thing.
The Joker predicted exactly what would happen to Batman going into the Dark Knight Rises...Heath Ledger did an amazing job!
The lol 😂
I loved Joaquin Phoenix but this Joker had the better writing
Phoenix joker was the precursor to this joker tbh.
They’re both great and different enough to be appreciates in their own rights. I find Phoenix more introverted whereas Ledger is anything but
@@williams4901 More like him when he becomes self actualised completely. A more experienced and ruthless version of what we saw in the interview of Joker with Murray.
Yeah. Thanks to Christopher Nolan masterpiece...
Joaquin Pheonix’s Joker is more of a pure psychopath and deranged joker but Heath Ledgers Joker is more Criminal mastermind who is also psychotic
Miss U Heath Ledger-The Joker-
Yousaf ullah phoenix did him justice!
@@drobdead98 tribute to legend ruclips.net/video/qyB3Bv3vegE/видео.html
Phoenix was good nothing more ledger had the best performance I’ve ever seen
😵💀😞
This, to me, is the greatest acting performance of all time
Rest in peace Heath Ledger 🙏
It's hard to argue with your opinion but I would put Russel Crowe up there too with A Beautiful Mind. He was equally mezmerizing.
"You complete me."
I felt that line lol
Without Batman there's no Joker, he has no one to “play” his sick game with. Joker needs Batman to survive otherwise what's the point.
Joker truly respects Batman
"Don't talk like one of them you're not even if you'd like to be".
@@qrae1579 Like Me
Have seen this scene a hundred times and 4:24 still gives me the chills every single time.
That was the exact moment I knew I was witnessing something special, for me that performance cemented Heath as the definitive Joker.
Mark Hamill is one thing, but that right there is THE best of the best
Never felt a comic book character got so real, Heath's performance is just out of this world.
I still get very sad when I think about Heath Ledger and how he died so young. He played the best Joker in history at the age of 27. Incredible performance that cemented him into history. RIP legend.
27 years Ledger was? Joker is supposed to be in his 50 or so years Because he met Bruce when he was a little boy.
@@luisvelez1952 in the new movie
Joker is supposed to be a character of mysterious backstory with no clear definable age
Batman is so frustrated and joker on other hand almost showed his position
good job batman for beating a guy with mental illness...
@@brandonpanuco139 r u retarded. Serious question dumbfuck
@@brandonpanuco139 I thought that edgelords said that this Joker wasn't crazy
This is the only movie that I want the villain to win
Haha, this is the only movie i choose the hero to win.
.....
But still joker is soo right.
These civilians gonna eat each others when they have a chance.
Hr is not a freak, he is a head of the curve.
......
That's why i like villians usually, they don't pick stupid codes about morality and break them for their own use.
They simply live by their own rules and usually they have a plan for the world.
If you watched the movie you would realize that in the end he did win.
@@samsterthehamster312 i'm confused
He basically did win in the end. It's what makes TDK such an interesting movie.
@@manassharma9437 Joker win. Because he prove, even good white knight (harvey) can become villain. But batman cover the truth that he lose to joker. Because if civilians know the truth. their trust in justice will fade away.
3:13 joker says he's not a monster while batman literally looking like a freaking monster lmao 🤣
I love the simplicity of The Joker’s psyche. He simultaneously controls everything whilst exploiting the flaws in the “system”.
*Simple, yet effective.*
4:13 This is one of the few times in any media you'll ever see Batman look like he's not in control...
Then you have never read the comics or his animated movies.
He can put villains like the joker in jail, but he cant control the increasing madness in gotham despite his best efforts. It is a paradox, that is what makes batman stories so engaging.
In Dark Knight Returns he snaps and breaks the Joker's neck...
Patrick Bateman you didn’t even understand the comment, he said control of himself, not fuckin Gotham criminality rate
@@sj0nnie I meant in control of himself, he's usually shown as calm calculated and always keeping a menacing, intimidating demeanor.. Here the dam breaks as he realises what has happened... BTW you're right though, I've not read the comics... Mostly due to bad availability...
Batman's mind: damn, this guy is cool
Yeah i bet their both psycho
Batman is such a tsundre
"The bad cop ,good cop routine" I really like that quote also
"You... complete.... ME!!."
Still gives me chills due to how psychotic that line is, two masterminds face to face, the worlds greatest detective and the mad lad we all know as joker.
“Even to a guy like me that’s COLD”
I have never ever seen anyone play a role as the joker as Heath Ledger, what a legend man, pure class! RIP
Honestly Bale's acting performance in this film was quite underrated. Just look at how he makes Batman appear to slowly lose his control and to actually desire to kill the Joker. His eyes especially....
This scene is better than a lot of movies.
“Don’t talk like one of them. YOU’RE NOT! Even if you’d like to be. To them you’re just a freak, like me. They need you right now but when they don’t they’ll cast you out. Like a leper. You see their “morals” their “code” it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you when the chips are down these...uhh..these “civilized” people. They’ll eat each other. You see I’m not a monster I’m just ahead of the curve.”
- Heath Ledger’s Joker 2008
Thank you for quoting what everyone else does
That's a badass quote
Yes
The last few lines are so true
@fantasticmoose you let a movie ending decide what is right and wrong? how hilarious
"To them you're just a freak, like me"
Freaks laugh when you hit them really hard in the face. Yeah he was a freak alright. I doubt Batman would laugh like that.
*FFRRREEAAKK*
I almost feel like the reason Batman snapped at 3:18 isn't because he was super concerned about Dent, but because the more Joker went on, the more he realised he was right, and he was too stubborn to let it show thus he changed the subject the quickest way he could.
The more I watch Heath's portrayal of the Joker the more that I'm convinced this is one of the single greatest acting jobs in movie history
Calm down.
@@spenser9908 What's your issue, bud? Having a bad day?
Batman just staring at joker realizing all joker said makes sense, until he remember that harvey dent was kidnapped by joker
Y O U C O M P L E T E M E
@@nicholasberry8456 actually I dont thinkJoker did it, knew about it, but wasn't the one who did it. It was the mobsters.
I'm pretty sure that we all come here after the "Joker" movie to see how great is this classic joker
The Joker movie is the greatest to come out of the franchise since this one. They explored a plausible origin of a realistic Joker and yet it was different enough to not be overshadowed by this classic
Yeah they kinda neutered him in the new film a bit. It's too bad Phoenix didn't have the creative freedom that Ledger did, I do wonder now how much farther he might have taken it.
Nope, gonna watch it soon tho
YES
1:00 this move with the forehead reminds me Jack Nicholson in the Departed. Which also he played the joker role. Seems Heath ledger study Jack Nicholson's joker so deep
4:26
The best Joker laugh in cinema history.
Me: Trying to eat a snack at 3AM with the kitchen in full darkness
My dad: 1:28
I laughed so hard but at the same time your dad is mean 😂😂
1:28 When my Christian girlfriend catches me jerking off to porn
Lol
Lol😂
Tell him he have nothing to do with all his strength then😆😆😆
I’ve never seen “wanna” spelled with an “o” before.
My guess is to lure more people in to watch the video. Sounds stupid I know, but people do it sometimes to click on the video because it sticks out enough to annoy people
@@Samson2030 I mean to be fair I did only click on this video for that reason
same
It's because of the way Batman pronounces it. It sounds like "wonna"
This is a masterclass of acting.... (ledger mainly, Oldman and bale) And of course the script is brilliant
That single note starting at 3:46 is a masterpiece. Like an old fashioned water kettle, it slowly raises the tension within the air until reaching its boiling point.
"you have NOTHING to threaten me with." that was the most epic line ever. he was so right. joker wasn't your typical criminal, and he had batman by the nuts
Joker was 110% right. At the end of the movie Batman was cast out and when the ships were down (Bane’s occupation of Gotham) they all ate each other. Noone was proud of being a cop anymore. Joker knew Batman and Gotham better than anyone.
Well they only casted him out cause he took the fall for Dent so that the Gotham wouldn’t know Harvey lost his mind
Yes but batman sacrifice by making gontham hate him thinking he's that one that kill Harvey dent
*chips not ships
It would have been even more poetic if the Dark Knight Rises had featured Joker as originally planned.
@@wwekane2468 which was wrong of him
0:41 If you look closely you notice that when the Joker is emphasising on just how alone you really are his eyes look to the left corner and then closes them for a brief second, he definitely knew what was exactly right behind him the whole time.
This is why Heath Ledgers Joker is the best of all time great subtle acting.
"These days you can't rely on anyone, you have to do everything yourself." - Joker
What a line of masterpiece ♥️
Nobody:
Heath ledger every 5 seconds: *lip smack*
Dan Suchetka because the makeup really irritated his mouth and eyes.
Yang Gang actually it was to stick the prosthetic together
I think it just adds to the character. It only shows how unstable and crazy he is.
RO-z Wilson is right it was to help with the scars prosthetic but Heath turned it into a character trait
Hawk7743 yeah I think the prosthetics would dry and crack and it took like 3 hrs to reapply them so instead of that he would just lick his lips to moisten the prosthetics so they wouldn’t dry and mess up
Yo batman low key scares me and I feel so much respect for joker not being scared
I completely agree with you. the joker mocks him
resorting to violence is weak, the joker was the stronger by far
Doge of Dojima the joker has nothing to lose, nothing to fear. To him this whole thing is all apart of his game.
The Glazing Eye non canon
Well, yeah. He is crazy.
Me at 2:08 telling people when they expect covid to be over lol
2:15 that cute giggle tho
"Look at You, Go!"
I'm convinced of the origin theory that this version of the Joker started out as a special ops soldier. Hence why he has no record or means of identification, his entire existence was erased so he could do what he thought at the time was for the greater good. Except only he soon realized it was all a lie, he killed people, did unspeakable things all in the name of protecting a free world. But when he came home, that world didn't really exist, he was actually killing for the idea of it, but in reality it was just so a few self-important people got to keep things they way they wanted them. The mob wanted their money, Harvey wanted order, and politicians wanted votes, they say it's all important and worth doing it all for, but in the end It was really all just a cruel... sick... joke.
Sounds like First Blood
@@Mc-godzilla Or Punisher.
Nah cause if he was special ops he would have fought Batman instead of using dogs and wild attacks in the finale of the movie
Joker to me seems too independent to have been a solider. He hates having anything interfere with his ideas and doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would tolerate getting yelled at by the chain of command such as occurs in the military. Kind of a lone wolf. Also, any civilian could learn the same skills as a soldier if they found the right person to teach them and Joker would have the money and connections to do that.
It makes a lot of sense. I've always thought of him probably starting out more as a highly intelligent operative working for the CIA - someone who'd spend a lot of his time in a suit or in disguise. I pictured him getting assignments that were more and more brutal where lines between right and wrong and where "playing by the rules" became more and more questionable. These assignments were morally ambiguous and, eventually he was betrayed by those in charge of him and betrayed by the "rules". In his mind, the situation was bigger than that - he was betrayed by society's rules as a whole.
In this betrayal, he was beaten and tortured (by the "good guys" or the "bad guys"??) During that torture, he was given his scars. I'm picturing that somehow his love interest was involved and probably the man he trusted most - one of his bosses or handlers. His "wife", maybe a fellow operative and love interest who probably got too involved with the "bad guys" and paid the price for it. His "father", boss/senior officer who trained him and gave him the monstrous assignments that drove him over the edge.
Or...maybe those people were all in his head.
I don't think he started out as a clown who advertised for sandwich shops or visited kids in the hospital who inspired to be a stand up comedian.
“He may be in one spot or *several* ” is a genius line
1:27 *When you wake me up on Monday morning*
literally one of the best scenes in the 21st century.
In this scene heath ledger wants batman to really beat him just to express the pain as it was. His Every hit is real. Not for acting.
....um no, Christian bale did not really hit heath ledger at all in this scene. Stop making up shit.
@@devilwarr1or one of the hits was real, but it was an accident, and Bale was about to stop but Ledger just kept going
Evan Fanara which hit was real ?
@@love.uriell I'm not sure exactly but I think the last one
@@devilwarr1or yes he did, you fucking ignorant clown
from an intimidating batman to a desperate batman in less than 2 minutes.....goddamn joker has some serious skills
4:12 "WHERE ARE THEY?!"
Dayum bruh i feels like I'm on the Joker side
Gamers rise up
Bruh.soundeffect.mp3
Because he makes sense. Most of what he said is true.
@@SpiderBite90x No, not really. Joker is a sociopath, sadistic killer. He's right about people being bad, but HE is the bottom of the line.
I know me too. The stuff he said to batman too truthful
1:25 Joker looks/knows someone is behind him or there. First time I noticed this. He looks left and then right like he is expecting something.
That is amazing.
i think that was heath preparing himself to get his head slammed. He told christian bale to, quote "beat him up like batman would"
Also, he shuts his eye earlier
Ermant StuckInRealityguy I think that’s because the room was dark and the lights were turned on suddenly. Aren’t we all like that? We’re in a dark room and someone turns the lights on then our eyes are like destroyed so we close them
Of course he knew batman was there.
Achraf Agermoune you CIS fool
1:19
Joker: the good cop bad cop routine?
Harvey: not exactly
Batman, behind joker: the bad cop *worse cop* routine
This is Gordon
2:32 The Joker (2019) Joaquin Phoenix A.K.A Arthur Fleck.
Best superhero and supervillain conversation i'v ever seen.
1:26 i love the way he looks behind him as if he 100000% knows Batman would be there waiting
yur right, he even prepares for the slam if you look at his eyes carefully
@@deus9906 mb
@@deus9906 no cause he wouldnt make it so obvious that he was looking behind him if that was the case, they did it on purpose to show how well he knows batman etc
It’s because Heath wanted Bale to slam his head into the table to make it seem more realistic. He was preparing for big pain
@@nicholasberry8456 i think its just part of heaths great acting, he knows batman is gonna hit him so the whole thing is part of his act, it wasnt a real brace they wouldnt make it that obvious, he does loads of little things like that on his own accord in this film which is part of why he was so good in this
Batman throwing around and beating the shit out of the Joker while he just laughs is so Batman and Joker.
4:03 imagine yo unlce walk in yo room and do this
Heath Ledger really played a psycopath so well.... damn, the Joker just has no remorse - barely human, his portrayal was scary good. Rest in peace.
This scene really made this film
Like every other scene
The entire movie, the joker take all the credits of this movie, just think about it, nobody talks about batman suit like the old batman, or the batmobile or something else, 99%of the people talks about joker,
This scene is timeless, including for the direction, cinematography and music. Movie magic.
I don’t think there could be any better cast of characters for this movie. Heath ledger absolutely nailed it as the joker and Gary Oldman was also brilliant.