The Evolution R210SMS Sliding Mitre Saw Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2017
- This is a review of the Evolution R210SMS sliding mitre saw. It is designed to replace the Rage 3-S and is certainly an upgraded model!
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I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
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Just purchased one last night, set up this morning & love it!
It is a great machine for the price Carl. :-)
Concise, accurate, cleary spoken review, just how a review should be done, excellent job!
Thank you Stephen. :-)
By far the best review for power tools that I have seen.
Covered all the improvements from the previous version. very comprehensive description of the features and fantastic demonstrations.
Amazing content. thanks
Glad I could help Daimian. Thank you for such a great comment! :-)
The setup/adjustment guide was really useful, thanks for including that!
No problem! :-)
Just assembled mine before watching video of assembly and use. It gives me a great piece of mind that I chose the right product and assembled it in line with both videos...very good and informative.
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Thank you for the detailed in depth overview, which I watched after assembley.
Assembley was easy without instructions.
Your review has given me all knowledge I had not already understood, such as
(1) set-up adjustment to 90 and 45 deg, and location of the set-up stops, and
(2) set-up for specific depth cuts.
I will revisit this video if the saw ever gets stored for any length of time.
Glad I could help! :-)
Great review, I'll be getting one as soon as I move into my new home for my conservatory and workshop/shed builds.
I don’t think you will be disappointed with it Steven. It is a good saw. :-)
Hi Russell. Thank you so much for making this video. I've just recently purchased this saw, and it's a major upgrade to an old and very basic mitre saw. You explained everything I needed to know to confidentiality use it properly. Keep up the good work.
Cheers Martin. :-)
I've never owned a mitre saw before or even attempted to set one up. Just wanted to say thanks for this video, it really helped when setting up this saw for the first time. Cheers.
Glad I could help! :-).
Thanks Russell you are really a clear speaker and obviously have experience I have the much smaller evolution mitre saw and need to upgrade for larger wood projects this vid gives me confidence especially using it for metals and stone which I know it can do but haven’t tried, that box metal section has me convinced Evolution saws present value for money.
Evolution are always improving their range and this saw is a great all rounder that is capable of accurate work. The multi purpose blade is extremely versatile and I will happily cut mild steel with it and move onto wood. You will love the extra cutting capabilities of the sliding saw. Take the time to check the angles and set up the saw if necessary. Good luck with your projects! :-)
brill, you've done such a great job with this demo and now I'm off to get me one.
Thank you Warren. It is a fine saw. :-)
Oh Lord, why can't all reviews be as good as this? Outstanding. Consider me subscribed !
Cheers Brian and thanks for Subscribing! :-)
Brilliant review which made my mind up,god knows why I waited so long to buy one as it is brilliant and has saved me loads of time.
I am glad that you like it Kevin. :-)
Bought this saw today after watching your review and others, really help full advice with the set up side of things cheers👍
Thank you Daniel. :-)
I bought one today,your review is very good , you done a fantastic job putting the saw through its paces,👍
Cheers Joe! 👍
Just bought a 185 version of it, thanks to your review .Weather is shit so did not try it yet , but can not wait. Nice ,professional video , thanks and good luck.
Thank you. Good luck with your projects and please take care when using it! :-)
You've convinced me im going out to buy one today thanks for the review you did a great job of ahowing it off I hope they give you more tools to review I'm subscribing and staying tuned.
Thank you. :-)
Excellent review, thank you so much.
I have just purchased this saw.
Needed a quick calibration.
I have made very accurate cuts.
Good little saw I think.
Thank you for this great video, told me just what I need to know and no frills...off to get one now ...
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Excellent review - looking to buy one and the hold up was I want it to do light metalwork and brick as well as wood - your review helped me alot - thank you for the time to put this together.
Glad it was helpful! :-)
Think you forgot to mention the laser which you where going to talk about later
Just watched this review and bought one. Really good review pal very detailed. Thank you for your time.
Glad it was helpful Danny! :-)
Best review I’ve ever seen. Very detailed. Thanks a million
Thank you Ellen. Glad I could help! :-)
Very good review, today I bought this model in Romania and I want to test its capabilities as soon as I can.
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What a great review! Great work! I’ll be picking one of these up.
Glad I could help Simon! :-)
Watched this straight after the assembly, great thanks.
Ha! Im watching this the day before going out to buy the saw!
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Really good review, thank you - I’m going to buy one as soon as I’ve written this 👍🏼 😁
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Brilliant review, explanation and demonstration. Thank you so much Russell.
Glad I could help! :-)
Great review, very in depth and i think this is going to be my first mitre saw. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful! :-)
Excellent demo
Thank you John. :-)
One of the most comprehensive reviews i have seen in a long time. Thank you
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Good review! Thanks.
Cheers Tuomas! :-)
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Hello Russell and well done for making a clear and informative video. I have just purchased one of these saws virtually on the strength of your efforts. But you never mention the laser and how to adjust it. I find the laser very helpful, I just hope it lasts and doesn't give up the ghost on me. I do have one criticism of the saw and that is that when you unlock the head to lower it into work it is so easy to start the motor at the same time. When ready to start your cut it doesn't matter but I usually lower the saw just to see that it will clear things like the clamp (when cutting a bevel) etc. It is the natural way to hold the saw, thumb in the front to release the head but the remainder of the hand through the D shaped handle. I have got used to holding the palm of my hand away from the trigger but I think it could be better designed. Well done and thank you.
I know, I completely forgot to mention the laser. I did have a look at it and it did not need adjusting but I was going to show the adjustments and somehow I just forgot about it. How strange that you do not like the handle arrangement, it is one of the features I like best about the new saws. I do not have to think about what each button does like I did with the older saws. Mind you, it would be a very boring world if we all thought the same things. Thank you for taking the time to post a comment. :-)
Hello again Russell. I just thought I would tell you something that will demonstrate how stupid I can be at times ! With reference to my comments above regarding pulling the starting trigger accidentally I found out at the weekend why I was having what was this very slight problem. I discovered that I had got the clamp that locks the sliding motion just ever so lightly screwed up. This in turn meant that when I pulled the saw towards me prior to releasing the up/down catch if I wasn't careful the saw would start because it was taking a bit more effort than it should. The sliding action wasn't clamped, it wasn't fully loose if that makes sense. I just undid the clamp about 1 turn and the saw flies backwards and forwards now.
Memo to self. Must try harder !! Thanks again.
That is something that could catch anyone out! If you have not used the saw without any friction on the slide you will not realise that there is some resistance. The good thing is that you sussed it out and stopped the issue. I hope you enjoy using the saw and your projects turn out how you want them to. :-)
Thank you Russell. Actually I bought the saw for a specific reason and I am pleased with the outcome. My better half saw some planters made out of decking and decided that she would like one. I am not a wood worker, I would rather work with steel anyday. But I needed something that would cut a decent bevel for the corners. This takes a bit of setting up to make a decent job because of the corrugated nature of decking. (plus the fact that I discovered that decking can be warped longitudinally quite badly !!)
However the end result was that I made 5 planters. 3 of one size and 2 more of different sizes. I am now flavour of the month in our household !
Glad it worked out. Always good to get a few brownie points in too!
I'm going to buy this, excellent review thanks for sharing
Glad I could help! :-)
I have to say that is one of the best review videos I have ever watched on RUclips! I am off to buy myself one of these for a decking project I have lined up!
Thank you Scott. What a great comment for a RUclipsr to receive. Good luck with your project! :-)
Thank you for the review, brilliant and concise.
Glad I could help! :-)
Top review, bought this today after returning a cheaper other brand model at Screwfix, the manual is ok but you helped me get the saw spot on, nice piece of kit for my DIY, thanks for your review
Glad to help. :-)
Thanks Russel, great review. Sincerely appreciated. Tim.
Thank you Tim. :-)
Great job, looking forward to the projects!
cracking review, its on my Xmas list!
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Great review and well demonstrated.
Thank you. :-)
Very good review. Nicely done.
fantastic video the misses is getting me this for xmas looks a amazing piece of kit
That is a nice present Glenn. :-)
I'm convinced, off to screw fix tomorrow to pick one up :D
It is a good saw Martin. Make sure you take the time to check the saw and set it up. :-)
That blade is amazing!!!!
It is a very handy machine. :-)
for cutting metal that multimaterial blade it's a joke (bad one)
Great Review, thanks for the setup advice
Glad it was helpful Stuart! :-)
Just got one, well happy, also got the circular saw and that’s really good, best I have had so far
They are good value for money Lee. :-)
Lee, is there any play on the up/down hinged part? I bought the Rage 3s 2 years ago and used it very little. Dreamed of being a hobbyist but never had time due to work. Now that I have time I've started to use and used this guys other video to set it up for accuracy. To be honest, it must have been well set at the factory because it's about as square as it's possible to be so it. I've noticed it has a 3 year warranty so I'm going to be cheeky and ask Screwfix to swap/upgrade it but not sure what to go for.
Cheers, Andy
Andy Thurlow no play and it seemed set up and very accurate, can’t fault it. No doubt will buy more in the future, good luck.
I never comment on videos but this review is top class! Thank u mate
Thank you David. Glad I could help! :-)
Really good review. I want one now.
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Just bought one of these for some composite decking..good review
Thank you Geoff! :-)
Best Mitre saw i have purchased over the years, great for wood, aluminium and mild steel. Would avoid the diamond blade for brick as the mitre doesn't have enough kick and from the video you could see it losing power. Nice work on the calibration, you make me wonder if its worth me ditching my full size for a tiny one.
I would always choose a larger saw over a smaller one as the ability to cut larger sizes will definitely be appreciated over time! :-)
Great review !.. I have one but I really think they should supply a dust bag!... its a bit penny pinching....
Thanks for the review very helpful
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Excellent review, I have now just ordered one. I wish I had of watched this before wasting my money on my last saw.
Hope you enjoy it! :-)
I was just about to buy one of these when I thought look on RUclips see what people say , great review definitely made my mind up , cheers !!!
Glad I could help! :-)
Eh? 33.9° & 31.6 ° ? Can I suggest a short demo of using these compound cut setups showing the two cut mouldings fitting together. I looked at a few other demos on here but none showed the finished joint.
That is worth thinking about! :-)
Thank you. This video was so good I could understand the key points even with the sound off. (Wife was on the phone.)
Thank you! :-)
Good review, thanks. 🙂
Cheers Martin. :-)
Perfect review. Thanks
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Good video thanks for showing blade settings
Cheers Tony. :-)
Great review
Cheers John. :-)
I definitely considered to buy one I like the fact is easy to carry and easy to store.
It is a fine saw! :-)
You awight gavna. I learnt about building work. I built my own shed the other day. It's nice n strong.
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Great review👌
Glad I could help Mark! :-)
@@RussellPlatten thank you bought one last week setting it up today. Never used one before. That’s why your review was so helpful 👍
Great Review, thanks..
Cheers Roy. :-)
Nice review.
Thank you. :-)
Glad I saw this before I purchased a Rage3s - I can wait for a better model. Hope the price is similar....!
Thank you for taking the time to comment Gareth. You won’t have to wait long for the saw as it comes on sale in January. Unfortunately, I do not know what the price is, but Evolution tend not to hike the prices up too much when they release new versions.
Great review .......thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful! :-)
Hi, thank you very much for a great interesting and informative video, I have just purchased one of these saws, great tips
Thank you again
Sam
You are welcome! :-)
brilliant video
learnt a lot
thank You
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Glad I could help Ben! :-)
Just now learning of this product; I'm curious about availability & price in the U.S.; would anyone know. Many thanks!
Great video. Does it move to 45 degrees both ways on the stand without hitting?
Yes it does. The stand is a great add on for the saw as it turns it into a portable work station.
Great review Russell, do you know if they plan to release a new version of the 255mm saw as well as the 210mm.
I am not sure Andrew, Evolution told me it would be this month, but I was not given a date. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later. :-)
Just got mine its great
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Thanks very much for the review! Very comprehensive and well done. I'm very interested in buying one. I was wondering if the bevel cut goes further than 45 (I know it's listed as 45 max but the scale seems to go slightly beyond this from the video)?
The bevel is set at 45 degrees using the stop. I have just been and had a look at mine and it seems like there is a little more scope if you tighten the stop screw right in. If you remove the stop screw completely, it looks as if there is a lot of scope. I am not sure if there are any other physical stops built into the casting on the saw head though. :-)
@@RussellPlattenThanks very much for the quick reply!! On a video a few years old. Very kind and helpful of you Russell. 😊
You are welcome! :-)
Just bought one of these, along with the bench - wish I'd watched this video first, those setup and calibration tips are gold. One thing I did notice is the main blade screw has some play in it as I tighten it up (my makita circular saw blade screw does the same). Obviously the screw doesn't move once it's tight, but it doesn't seem quite central when it's spinning (visually off center, slight wobble). The blade itself does NOT wobble whilst running. This behaviour may be normal, but is slightly disconcerting. Trial cuts seem fine, and I've done a bunch of skirting/architrave without issue. Just wondering if this screw thing is normal/expected?
Good video, I was thinking about going for the R185SMS, but for the extra 25 quid I might as well just go for this one, cheers.
The right decision in my opinion! :-)
@@RussellPlatten You're not wrong there, I went out yesterday and bought one, put it together last night, which was all pretty much self explanatory, so you don't need the idiot guide. Then today I done a few cross cut's in some 4x2, all was good and it didn't need any adjustment, but I'll test it more thoroughly over the weekend. So overall I'm really happy with this saw, it's solid, looks good and the build quality is excellent, and an absolute bargain for £125, so a useful addition for both the professional and the DIYer alike 👍
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What dust extractor tube do you use with this particular model of saw, as I cannot see anything in their accessory list?
My shop vac came with a power tool adapter and this fits the saw perfectly. I measured the outside diameter of the adapter and it is approximately 35mm. The nozzle on my shop vac also fits the port on the saw. I hope this helps.
Thanks
Great review. Can you help me with two points please?. First of all the depth cut is a bit confusing. I tried it today and it seems that unless you use a seperate timber to move the piece you wish to channel out away from the fence it is not possible to get a flat bottomed groove - unless im missing something of course. Secondly, you state that the blade is rock solid with no movement but on my saw I have quite a lot of rocking play on the blade itself. Am I doing something wrong?. Thanks in advance.
Hi Andrew. First of all, after the first set of cuts you have to turn the wood around so that the raised part of the grove is furthest away from the fence and finish the cutting to flatten it out. As for the blade, it should not move laterally unless forced. I can move my blade a little if I use force but it springs bacl as soon as I let go. :-)
Great review very helpful, Did you leave rubber feet on saw when you mounted it to the stand?
Thank you. Yes I did leave the feet on. :-)
@@RussellPlatten I took mine off cos looked like yours was off thanks anyways👍
Great review, thanks for a concise review of the product.
Out of interest, would you recommend the standard blade for composite decking?
It should be fine. However, I have no experience with composite materials. :-)
I have one & love it
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Me encanta esta máquina
Es una gran relación calidad-precio
@@RussellPlatten cuanto dura el disco cortando metal?
3:35 thought he was going to say it even has a smiley face
LOL, I see what you mean! :-)
Excellent video thank you.
Glad it was helpful Ashley!
I have just bought one of the old models, I wish I had known a new model was coming out
The old model is a fine saw Andrew, it will still serve you well. :-)
Great video Russell, I wanted to know which saw to get and actually have a question. I want to get either this or the R185SMS. I have a roll of paper which is quite thick to cut in half. The paper is 1.3 meters in length. It's a 50 meter roll of paper so you can imagine how thick it is. I have never used a mitre saw in my life and just researched it today because I've been told it can cut rolls of vinyl/paper etc. By the looks of it I don't think I can get cut straight through as the blade isn't big enough. Will I need to cut, then turn the roll, cut and repeat or do you think that it just can't be done? Thanks
It depends on the diameter of the roll. It sounds a little risky to me Christian. :-)
@@RussellPlatten Thank you for the response. I already did this a day ago lol I needed to roll it and cut again as the diameter was too thick. There wasn't any danger. The only risk is that it would have ruined the roll but it's all good :)
@@christianlionel1988 Glad it worked out for you! :-)
Hi Rusell, Thanks for the video. Can you recommend a blade for this Mitre saw for cutting laminate 12mm thick?
Hi Mario, I purchased a Saxon blade from Amazon, the blade has 80 teeth and cuts wood finely. Cheap too. They sell them with an insert for these saws. :-)
Thanks @@RussellPlatten
Bravissimo,ottima recensione,chiara ed esaustiva,grazie
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Could you please clarify the 150*65 mm specification for the maximum 45 degree mitre cut. Does that mean it can cut a piece 150 mm wide at 45 degrees, or is 150mm just the maximum length of the actual cut? My reason for asking is that I have a project that will involve cutting 150 mm wide oak planks at 45 degrees to make corner shelves and I want to know if this saw will do it.
155mm by 65mm is the maximum width and depth of the wood you can cut at 45 degrees. The saw will cut the wood for your project.
Thank you for your clear and prompt reply.
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Around the 10.28 mark- what is that tool you are using and what is it showing?
It is a Bosch PAM 220 angle measurer. :-)
How have you found this mitre saw in terms of longevity, both of the blades and the item itself?
I stopped using it when Evolution sent me the R255SMS 3 months later. I have been using the R255SMS regularly since then. I swapped the blade after a year or so and fitted a blade designed specifically for cutting wood. I used the R210SMS for a few small metal cutting jobs, but not enough to give the blade any real testing. So, I cannot say how long the blades last. I can say that the R255SMS has been a great saw and I use it a lot. I see no reason to think the R210SMS would be any different. I only have Evolution mitre saws in my workshop. :-)
I can't decide between this mitre saw and the fury 3-s. Which one would you recommend for a beginner or would they be both around the same standard do you reckon?
I would go for the R210SMS Adam. :-)
Perfect review apart from forgetting the laser. Top marks though. My laser is slightly off despite my saw cutting correct angle so was hoping for this info but never mind
Yes, sorry about the laser Matthew. It is not easy to realign it! :-)
Hi Russell I've just watched your review on this mitre saw. I have inmy amazon basket the 210sms+300. Is this one an upgrade of the one you reviewed 5 yes ago.?
It has a better cutting capacity Cheryl. 300mm instead of 255mm. The plus features are mentioned at the bottom of this page: shop.evolutionpowertools.com/products/r210sms300?gclid=Cj0KCQiAyracBhDoARIsACGFcS7BTTyxr9kKuej2VLWghTip1FeYvDRve96jPT55OdPLLsAsBm28JQcaAkQtEALw_wcB#features :-)
Not sure if I missed it but usually with sliding decent priced mitre saws, they're flimsy and aren't very sturdy which means the you can nudge it out of position, is it the same with this mitre saw with the sliding arm?
I have no issues with mine. :-)
Love the vid. Quick question; what’s the overall footprint of this SMS, allowing for full motion of the saw forward and back? Cheers
I have checked mine Jeff and the depth with the blade pushed all the way back is 75cm. The width is 58cm. :-)
@@RussellPlatten fab. Cheers bud.
@@jeffhatcher6585 You're welcome! :-)
Great review, watched after I brought one. Just 1 question, when I chop decking 120mm x 20mm the blade always leaves a bit of wood on the corner that it doesn't cut, do you know why this is please?
It sounds like you have the slide locked and need to use the sliding function to cut the decking. look at 10:07 on the video, I am cutting decking there. :-)
@@RussellPlatten sorted thanks bud
@@matchmasters...solochallenge Glad to hear it! :-)
I have the earlier model and found that the work hold down clamp under the motor gets in the way of the motor and therefore stops the full travel of the saw, has this fault been rectified on this new model?
The new model is the same John. I just flip the wood over and cut it on the left hand side if the clamp is a problem.
Thanks, I thought the fault would have been fixed on a newer model.
I think it is manufactured like this to keep the cost down. It would need a much bigger base to resolve the issue. They do sell a horizontal clamp that allows workpiece clamping on either side of the blade: www.evolutionstore.co.uk/accessories/frontclamps/rage3s.php