I’ve had an evolution for four years. It’s never let me down and I cut a lot of aluminium and steel box section as well as timber. It’s indestructible.
I bought this saw about two months ago and I just love it! I agree with everything said in the video. I have used to for a number of small projects, but once the workshop is finished, it will be used a lot more. Just waiting for the Rage5-S table saw to get back into stock and that will be mine too.
Hi Dan. Thank you for your in depth demonstration, you've just won Evolution a sale and yourself a subscriber. I've been looking to purchase this type of saw for a while now. Your demo and user operational tips won the day. Not only that, you have some very good how to videos on plumbing related topics and tools to also help me. Thank you. Tony
Great job on your review. I have a lot of experience with several kinds of metal saws. At the end of the cut, let the saw come to a complete stop before lifting the head up. They are prone to chipping the carbide teeth on the upswing when still rotating. Of course, I am referring to cutting metal. Just a hint to help your blade live long. Thanks for your review.
Thanks tom always appreciate any advice or improvements we all have to learn. Glad the review was ok and the saw is definitely a bargain I have to say. Many thanks
Thanks Dan, I had their circular saw for a couple of years and was impressed by it for DIY jobs. I've just ordered one of these to do laminate flooring. Looks like it will do the job nicely!
Thanks Definitely ordering one of these , so much safer than using other saws and nice precise cuts which I think will improve my woodwork skills immensely. Great vid , very easy to follow , can't wait to get this now.
Yeah bought this one a while back. It felt more stable than some of the others and it's a good all-rounder. Agree with your comments and I'm pretty happy with my choice. Cheers
Just bought the + kit with stand for DIY, (cant cut wood straight to save me life) , got to lay a new engineered wooden floor to start with then a decking project. Your video was great for me so I've hit the subscribe button.
probably iv found is that the locking on the table isnt accurate. it clicks in at 0, 15, 22.5, 45 degrees but theres play so you can be a degree or two out either way.
Would this model be able to cut through a 120mm x 240mm cedar wood sleeper at a 45 mitre angle? I can see it will need to take two or more cuts to do it but the clearance from the slide rail gives me concerns. No one stocks these mitre saws locally, so its difficult to tell even with your clear video angles on other less deep materials. Thank you.
As a none bias result you've been honest But..... This is the go to communal chop saw they use on every industrial/commercial job I've been on , gets hammered day in day out by novice users on uni strut Dado , tray , trunking , rod , wood etc and People literally slam down the blade on materials, throw it about, gets left in the rain , gets covered in dust and metal fillings and still survives a year to two year jobs All the makita , dewalt ones the blades or there holder always use to end up being wonky and the blades need changing all the time The evolution blades last very long It's the fairest price I personally think its the best It's light weight It has loads of different attachments I can't think of any faults to it I'd give it a 10/10
Hi brotherm, i have an issue with my miter saw ( R255SMS 10" ) the issue is , when i click on the starting bottom to run the machine, its not working until i push the handle down if it' like full down then it will start running, what i mean is if click on starting bottom while the handle is up, it wont work., however i changed the carbon brush , but still i have same issue. can you please guide me how to fix this issue ?
Thank you for sharing. I just need something to cut 2x1 battens for my framed wooden signs. I can't justify an expensive purchase right now, but I've seen Evolution and Draper. Not sure which one is the better quality / brand. I'd love a DeWalt but they're a bit steep for me right now x
@DoItAllDan I am stuck between this and the MAKITA MLS100N, which i have also watched your review on. Both are currently at the same price, which would you recommend to go for?
I'm wanting to buy one as this looks an amazing piece of kit! I've got some old sleepers, dimensions 12.5cm by 25cm, obviously I'll have to flip them but this should cut through at the 90deg angle yeah?
Hi Dan, thanks for that. qq: I know the orange rubber plate cannot be removed without breaking it, but did you ever fit a zero-clearance plate on that one? I'm thinking about ripping the existent plate out and just replacing it with a wooden zero-clearance one but not sure what's under that orange stuff...
i cannot get mine to cut true its alway off by a bit.... i spent hours trying to fix it with no luck.... i think the fence comes from factory bent or something very frustrating
Dan, not preaching mate but when cutting metels with this you must let the machine do the work, you are going too fast! But if anybody does need to cut steel then invest in the evosaw355 . Love your videos very well produced keep em coming 👍
not viewed your videos before, its a great vid very in depth showing off the saw and all its fantastic features, i am seriously thinking of buying the double bevel variant of what you have reviewed mainly because the 355mm lacks this which would be nice to see in the future, ive used the 355mm chop saw for about 2-3 years its fantastic for quality cuts The orange multi purpose blades are good despite only really being for general purpose, for the average user lifespan of blades wont be an issue cutting wood with odd nails, pvc or very light mild steel now and then. However if your like me intend on cutting wood and a lot of metal to get the most for your money it is worth getting a collection of blades for each individual material you are going to cut and change them to their material accordingly as you go this really makes a massive difference to their life-cycle in comparison to the multi purpose blade. All i can say is beware of aluminium and stainless steel with the multi purpose blade, it will not last long at all you absolutely need the right blades for these especially.
Many thanks for the in-depth reply Tom I know exactly what you’re saying I’m going to be sent another one at the end of the month but I’m not sure which one this is so I’m a little excited about receiving it. So far they have stood the test of time on site pretty well on the more than happy to be perfectly honest I only really Cut wood with them now So hopefully will preserve the life pretty well but we will see many thanks Tom
Sounds exciting i cant wait to see that, with wood im sure you will be fine for quite some time, thanks for the fab vid looking forwards to seeing more :)
Could you tell me the front to back dimension, please. My work bench is only 600mm/2 ft wide and tight the wall behind. Just wondering if this will sit on the bench OK. Thanks.
I'm not at home but on the website : Product Dimensions 73 x 70.5 x 36 cm Link to product: www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Power-Tools-R255SMS-Multi-Material/dp/B07BRPWJVZ
@@PlumbingGy Thanks for your prompt reply...much appreciated! I'm guessing that the 730mm is the front to back measurement, therefore I'll have to go for the smaller R210sms+ model. Thanks for your time.
Probly stupid question but I purchased mine today and when I started it up there was like a smell coming from it.. Is it just because its just new? Great vid by the way bro
Hi Paul, yes I do know the smell your talking about and it is because it is new don't worry it will soon fade away and be replaced by the smell of saw dust hahaha
Mine had blade / shaft bounce. Sadly I bought it and had it boxed up for a long time. When i went to use it, i found the fault. The bearing is fine - I opened up the motor housing. The issue is the other bearing/opening/gearbox - have to strip the whole thing down to get at that. Disappointed.
Hi greetings from chile southamerica ,do you recommended today ,what about the blade ,still working what would you say for we the ppl that thinking In buy one after all this time using ? ,Regards .
If it's on a DIY basis then I would recommend one, the blade as anything will depend on how much and what materials you cut my first blade lasted a good while but I only cut light metals and wood. If you're looking for something a little more professional then it maybe worth spending a little more 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I'm very interested in it. I'm not an expert, so i have a stupid question.. Officially i read that you should only use Evolution own blades, however i assume that a third-party blade (for example a Saxton 80T for finer wood cut) will do, perhaps using a reduction ring if needed? thanks
It started out as a really good review, well it was for an advert and then bloody RUclips put an advert on an advert, I despair. Not to worry they'll be offering me an advert free experience shortly, for a monthly fee. Thanks for posting.
@@PlumbingGy I know but they have increased the advertising to a ridiculous amount and even have pop ups that seem to occur just when you find something interesting. It is really infuriating especially when you really get into something. Nevertheless I still enjoyed your post just marred by bloody RUclips. Anyway on the back of your video I have just spent a lot of money on Evolution R210SMS+ Sliding Mitre and feel sure it was well spent.
I do know what u mean mate, I find the same thing just as you well into a video happily watching away bang goes an advert so I do feel your pain. Thank you for the watch and support I do appreciate it 👍🏻
Awesome I bought this saw just before I saw this but does anyone know if this is good for like production as in making 8 decently big planters a day 5 times a day for a whole year will it last?
Hi everyone. Have any of you checked if your saw's bed is completely flat? I have put straight edge across mine and found centre table to sit slightly proud to side supports. I found this fault immediately after taking it out the box. It's slightly better after removing stickers but still far from perfect. Did you encounter this issue with yours?
Woodworking Beginner: Update. This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work). Tips and Test: Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact / Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS. Second optie handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade. / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 . (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). (If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed). Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing (test is completed). Step-4. Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade. The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade. Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
vertical / horizontal handle is possible no problem. But the point is that they always in line above the saw blade positioned . (avoid torsion as much as possible).
I've used mitre saws for decades and the horizontal handles do not affect your wrist like the verticle ones do, that said you do need to choose your saw carefully, the best results for accurate compound mitres were from my KGS305. The Evo blades are over priced crap, don't last if using on laminate boards and at over £32 a pop I bought a different brand and fitted a reducer ring to get round Evolution's monopoly from using a different size blade bore. To sum up the Evolution, it's crap.
Mate, I've just set mine up, and it's a beaut. But having never used anything like this before, I can't get the base to move, lol. It's locked at the angle it came out of the box. I'm sure it's something really obvious. Could you point me in the right direction? 😀
The orange handle at the front of the base unscrew it until loose and there’s a hook underneath that u can reach with your index finger, squeeze it like a trigger and rotate the base. Hope that makes sense 💪🏻👌🏻👍🏻
Great in depth review Dan, I also have this saw and had issues with the turntable not locking accurately however evolution where great in fixing the problems. I also have a small youtube channel if you would like to have a nosy. Cheers Karl
Just found your channel👍 Great review of this product. Been looking for a compound mitre saw as just started diy woodworking using old pallets and I’m sick of hand cutting the planks🤣 Think this video has made my mind up👍 Also have you any experience with the £99 Titan table saw from Screwfix?
Hi mark, thanks for the comment and the support. I have actually used the titan table saw on a few sites from the same joiner, he uses it as a back up saw and to be honest it's not bad for DIY purposes. I would recommend one but only home use 👍🏻
Do It All Dan thanks. It will be home use only. In recently got hold of a load of pallet wood so made a few planters and I’ve kind of got the bug🤣. I work for Openreach so got hold of on an 80cm diameter cable drum last week so two large wall clocks are in the pipeline🤣🤣🤣 I’ve found someone local selling pallets cheap so I’ve got all sorts of ideas in my head so thought I’d invest in some half decent wood working tools and see what happens.
I can't fault you Mark, definitely worth it as a small investment for the amount your going to be using it I would say. Make sure u get yourself on Pinterest for some more ideas haha
Hi Dan and all subscribers, it’s been over a year since you made this review.. can I ask you and your subscribers, what’s the longevity of this product? Is it still as good as your review states? 😕 I’m a DIY’er and I’m looking to get a good mitre saw, what’s your views on the Ryobi mitre saw over the Evolution mitre saw? 🙂
I still use my saw maybe once a week so not crazy amounts but i have another for on site and this one remains at home in the workshop. The saw still works fine and I have no issues that have arisen as yet. hope this helps
@@iamaduckquack As a novice DIYer its fine now I buy the stand. Have cut wood and steel, change the blade and cut tiles no problem. The only issue is dust especially indoors, all in all, I'm happy with my purchase, getting a router, next. Oh, and it required no adjustments.
It depends on how much you are going to use it, if it's a one time thing I would go with a dedicated laminate flooring hand saw and a cheap jig so you can do precision cuts. If it's on a semi or pro use then I would invest in something a little better as this saw with this blade isn't the neatest at cutting. You can flip the wood over face down and get a better finish but you'll have to weigh up which option is best for you. Hope this helps and thanks for your support 👍🏻
I'm desperate for one these but no one has any stock available, Unbelievable, and no one can get me one 🤬can anyone help or advise, please ,just want a sliding mitre saw, 🥴
My saw blade seems to be turning in the wrong direction. Does the part of your blade closest to you rotate up or down. Mine go downwards. Seems wrong to me.
Downward is the right correct way , think about it , if it was going upward , the debris would be flying straight at you. The blade would be pushing towards you. You’d need a fence on the side facing you if the blade spun “upwards”
This is what I'm wondering... my (old with nails so this machine would be brilliant) sleepers are 12.5cm deep and 25cm across... I'm hoping that this will cut if I flip them over?
Do It All Dan. Really?? I’m surprised a joiner would need a saw that cuts metals. First thing they would need to do is change the blade for a better cut, kinda defeats the object of it then, but hey, each to their own. Very well made vid though bud..
Thanks mate, I don't think they will be using it as a main saw when I was on site they were using it for stud walls so I wouldn't say they were worried about neat cuts. I think because it is quite cheap they figured why not 👍🏻 thanks mate
@@mrb4408 The proverbial know it all. You are talking rubbish, what is the problem cutting metal? Oh sorry yes you are the ‘not my job mate’ person. One on every site. 😂
I’m not sure what adverts you watch to be honest, and how did you conclude 0-10? Pretty sure it’s about content, information and relevance …… Thanks though 👍🏻
Watched this the day after I bought one!
I’m glad you gave it a good review otherwise I’d feel a bit stupid…
I’ve had an evolution for four years. It’s never let me down and I cut a lot of aluminium and steel box section as well as timber. It’s indestructible.
I bought this saw about two months ago and I just love it! I agree with everything said in the video. I have used to for a number of small projects, but once the workshop is finished, it will be used a lot more. Just waiting for the Rage5-S table saw to get back into stock and that will be mine too.
Hi Dan. Thank you for your in depth demonstration, you've just won Evolution a sale and yourself a subscriber. I've been looking to purchase this type of saw for a while now.
Your demo and user operational tips won the day. Not only that, you have some very good how to videos on plumbing related topics and tools to also help me. Thank you. Tony
Excellent review! You're the reason I got mine yesterday. Very impressed with the built and quality of that beast! I absolutely love it!
Thank you Steve 👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻
Great job on your review. I have a lot of experience with several kinds of metal saws. At the end of the cut, let the saw come to a complete stop before lifting the head up. They are prone to chipping the carbide teeth on the upswing when still rotating. Of course, I am referring to cutting metal. Just a hint to help your blade live long. Thanks for your review.
Thanks tom always appreciate any advice or improvements we all have to learn. Glad the review was ok and the saw is definitely a bargain I have to say.
Many thanks
This just helped me make a decision. Sold ! Thanks 😁
Thanks Dan, I had their circular saw for a couple of years and was impressed by it for DIY jobs. I've just ordered one of these to do laminate flooring. Looks like it will do the job nicely!
Thanks
Definitely ordering one of these , so much safer than using other saws and nice precise cuts which I think will improve my woodwork skills immensely.
Great vid , very easy to follow , can't wait to get this now.
I have the same machine and found that it wouldn't cut all the way through a 4 inch piece of wood. Have you had this?
Yeah bought this one a while back.
It felt more stable than some of the others and it's a good all-rounder.
Agree with your comments and I'm pretty happy with my choice.
Cheers
Great, thanks Anthony. I am very pleased with mine it does everything I need and more with the multi material blade.
Thanks
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Excellent video and demonstration, and generally a cool channel. Keep going, mate. I'm certain you'll get the recognition your content deserves.
Thanks jay I appreciate it
i am a carpenter i have one ....great machine..does what it says on the tin...great video
Thank you they are definitely worth having just for the price. Many thanks
Lovely video and very well explained, thank you.
Just bought the + kit with stand for DIY, (cant cut wood straight to save me life) , got to lay a new engineered wooden floor to start with then a decking project. Your video was great for me so I've hit the subscribe button.
Thank you Graham I appreciate the support 👍🏻I'm glad it helped
Yes thanks for a nice well paced review
probably iv found is that the locking on the table isnt accurate. it clicks in at 0, 15, 22.5, 45 degrees but theres play so you can be a degree or two out either way.
Would this model be able to cut through a 120mm x 240mm cedar wood sleeper at a 45 mitre angle?
I can see it will need to take two or more cuts to do it but the clearance from the slide rail gives me concerns.
No one stocks these mitre saws locally, so its difficult to tell even with your clear video angles on other less deep materials.
Thank you.
As a none bias result you've been honest
But.....
This is the go to communal chop saw they use on every industrial/commercial job I've been on , gets hammered day in day out by novice users on uni strut
Dado , tray , trunking , rod , wood etc and
People literally slam down the blade on materials, throw it about, gets left in the rain , gets covered in dust and metal fillings and still survives a year to two year jobs
All the makita , dewalt ones the blades or there holder always use to end up being wonky and the blades need changing all the time
The evolution blades last very long
It's the fairest price
I personally think its the best
It's light weight
It has loads of different attachments
I can't think of any faults to it
I'd give it a 10/10
Have anyone tried to carve Turkey with these saw? Answer is yes, me. Christmas was served in minutes. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
trying to be funny i guess
Hi brotherm, i have an issue with my miter saw ( R255SMS 10" ) the issue is , when i click on the starting bottom to run the machine, its not working until i push the handle down if it' like full down then it will start running, what i mean is if click on starting bottom while the handle is up, it wont work., however i changed the carbon brush , but still i have same issue. can you please guide me how to fix this issue ?
Thank you for sharing. I just need something to cut 2x1 battens for my framed wooden signs. I can't justify an expensive purchase right now, but I've seen Evolution and Draper. Not sure which one is the better quality / brand. I'd love a DeWalt but they're a bit steep for me right now x
Great Video! Do you know the maximum rip? Can't seem to find the number? Looks like 10" or 12"?
Sorry - I heard you say it in the beginning, 255mm - thanks mate
@DoItAllDan
I am stuck between this and the MAKITA MLS100N, which i have also watched your review on. Both are currently at the same price, which would you recommend to go for?
Makita for general woodworking, evolution for multi material as it is designed for that purpose 👌🏻
Just an observation, just bought this using the depth gauge on timber it wont cut all the way to the back edge, so need to turn it over
YOU HAVE NOT BACKED OFF THE DEPTH GAUGE
@@brianmcmillan7426 how do you make that adjustment?
I'm wanting to buy one as this looks an amazing piece of kit! I've got some old sleepers, dimensions 12.5cm by 25cm, obviously I'll have to flip them but this should cut through at the 90deg angle yeah?
Is it normal for the motor to start spinning blade slow first then speed up spinning??
Hi Dan, thanks for that. qq: I know the orange rubber plate cannot be removed without breaking it, but did you ever fit a zero-clearance plate on that one? I'm thinking about ripping the existent plate out and just replacing it with a wooden zero-clearance one but not sure what's under that orange stuff...
Sorry Felix I haven't so I am unable to say, I might give it a go at some point tho if I do I will let u know 👍🏻
Bought one and the stand, quality for the money all good ! 😉
Nice review and good content Dan’ about to de-box mine thank you 😊
after buying the Evo Circular saw compared to De Walt, Evo is hard to beat. Im looking forward to buying this, cheers Dan
Hi. Can someone please tell me what is the exact width and length for table top on this saw ? no handles. From steel to steel. Thanks
Great video Dan. I've subscribed to your channel, keep the vids coming. Thanks mate.
Thanks Alan
i cannot get mine to cut true its alway off by a bit.... i spent hours trying to fix it with no luck.... i think the fence comes from factory bent or something very frustrating
It could be the blade especially if it 'squeals' 👍🏻
@@PlumbingGy i have tried brand new blades and hours of calibrating it still off by a bit... driving me nuts i cant figure it out
It may have a faulty deck, it may be worth sending it back and exchanging it for new 👍🏻
Put a straight edge along the fence to check if true, if not you may be able to bend carefully to straighten 👍
Dan, not preaching mate but when cutting metels with this you must let the machine do the work, you are going too fast! But if anybody does need to cut steel then invest in the evosaw355 . Love your videos very well produced keep em coming 👍
And have you turned down the volume on the video when recording it?.Thanks!
Yes it was edited 👍🏻
Have one of these, great piece of kit
Well I'm sold I'm definitely buying myself one
not viewed your videos before, its a great vid very in depth showing off the saw and all its fantastic features, i am seriously thinking of buying the double bevel variant of what you have reviewed mainly because the 355mm lacks this which would be nice to see in the future, ive used the 355mm chop saw for about 2-3 years its fantastic for quality cuts
The orange multi purpose blades are good despite only really being for general purpose, for the average user lifespan of blades wont be an issue cutting wood with odd nails, pvc or very light mild steel now and then.
However if your like me intend on cutting wood and a lot of metal to get the most for your money it is worth getting a collection of blades for each individual material you are going to cut and change them to their material accordingly as you go this really makes a massive difference to their life-cycle in comparison to the multi purpose blade.
All i can say is beware of aluminium and stainless steel with the multi purpose blade, it will not last long at all you absolutely need the right blades for these especially.
Many thanks for the in-depth reply Tom I know exactly what you’re saying I’m going to be sent another one at the end of the month but I’m not sure which one this is so I’m a little excited about receiving it.
So far they have stood the test of time on site pretty well on the more than happy to be perfectly honest I only really Cut wood with them now So hopefully will preserve the life pretty well but we will see many thanks Tom
Sounds exciting i cant wait to see that, with wood im sure you will be fine for quite some time, thanks for the fab vid looking forwards to seeing more :)
Could you tell me the front to back dimension, please. My work bench is only 600mm/2 ft wide and tight the wall behind. Just wondering if this will sit on the bench OK. Thanks.
I'm not at home but on the website :
Product Dimensions 73 x 70.5 x 36 cm
Link to product: www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Power-Tools-R255SMS-Multi-Material/dp/B07BRPWJVZ
@@PlumbingGy Thanks for your prompt reply...much appreciated! I'm guessing that the 730mm is the front to back measurement, therefore I'll have to go for the smaller R210sms+ model. Thanks for your time.
Will def get this model now
Some decent links in description thank you Adrian 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Probly stupid question but I purchased mine today and when I started it up there was like a smell coming from it.. Is it just because its just new? Great vid by the way bro
Hi Paul, yes I do know the smell your talking about and it is because it is new don't worry it will soon fade away and be replaced by the smell of saw dust hahaha
@@PlumbingGy can't beat the smell of sawdust lol
Cheers, just ordered this model with half price stand from Screwfix.
Love the dog appearing at 7:05 :)
Hahahaha good man yeah he loves the camera always trys it on
Mine had blade / shaft bounce. Sadly I bought it and had it boxed up for a long time. When i went to use it, i found the fault. The bearing is fine - I opened up the motor housing. The issue is the other bearing/opening/gearbox - have to strip the whole thing down to get at that. Disappointed.
Hi greetings from chile southamerica ,do you recommended today ,what about the blade ,still working what would you say for we the ppl that thinking In buy one after all this time using ? ,Regards .
If it's on a DIY basis then I would recommend one, the blade as anything will depend on how much and what materials you cut my first blade lasted a good while but I only cut light metals and wood.
If you're looking for something a little more professional then it maybe worth spending a little more 👍🏻
@@PlumbingGy ok thank you 👍😁.
Hello Do it all Dan is that how quiet it really is? or have you turned down the Dblevel when recording?Thanks.
Thanks for the review. I'm very interested in it. I'm not an expert, so i have a stupid question.. Officially i read that you should only use Evolution own blades, however i assume that a third-party blade (for example a Saxton 80T for finer wood cut) will do, perhaps using a reduction ring if needed? thanks
You can use another blade however it officially recommends use of their own products they do offer many blades so one should fill your needs 👍🏻
@@PlumbingGy thanks for that!
5:15 you sound just like Ricky Gervais hahahahaha love it
It started out as a really good review, well it was for an advert and then bloody RUclips put an advert on an advert, I despair. Not to worry they'll be offering me an advert free experience shortly, for a monthly fee. Thanks for posting.
😂😂😂 actually laughed more than I should of 😂👍🏻💪🏻
@@PlumbingGy I know but they have increased the advertising to a ridiculous amount and even have pop ups that seem to occur just when you find something interesting. It is really infuriating especially when you really get into something. Nevertheless I still enjoyed your post just marred by bloody RUclips. Anyway on the back of your video I have just spent a lot of money on Evolution R210SMS+ Sliding Mitre and feel sure it was well spent.
I do know what u mean mate, I find the same thing just as you well into a video happily watching away bang goes an advert so I do feel your pain. Thank you for the watch and support I do appreciate it 👍🏻
Hello DitADan what is the decibel Level on it.
Tell that dog to wear safety glasses!
🤣🤣🤣
Awesome I bought this saw just before I saw this but does anyone know if this is good for like production as in making 8 decently big planters a day 5 times a day for a whole year will it last?
Is the secret to this saw the blade? Is it a narrow kerf? IOW, its 20 tpi more like a 60 tooth in the real wood blades?
Hi everyone. Have any of you checked if your saw's bed is completely flat? I have put straight edge across mine and found centre table to sit slightly proud to side supports. I found this fault immediately after taking it out the box. It's slightly better after removing stickers but still far from perfect. Did you encounter this issue with yours?
I have another make of saw with this problem and its a pain . That makes me seriously reconsider my buying intentions!
most of 14 metal cutting blades are 1800 rpm max, why this saw has some 2500 rpm? how r u suppose to use all these blades that have 1800 or les rpms?
Buy new blades! It is so worth it as the saw is truly multipurpose and the saw blades are a wear item anyway.
This saw is 10 inches hence the 2500 rpm.
Could this miter a 7 inch skirting board?
Woodworking Beginner: Update.
This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work).
Tips and Test:
Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)!
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact / Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS.
Second optie handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade. / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 .
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
(If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed).
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing (test is completed).
Step-4. Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade.
The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade.
Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
Isn't vertical/horizontal handle a personal preference?
vertical / horizontal handle is possible no problem. But the point is that they always in line above the saw blade positioned . (avoid torsion as much as possible).
I've used mitre saws for decades and the horizontal handles do not affect your wrist like the verticle ones do, that said you do need to choose your saw carefully, the best results for accurate compound mitres were from my KGS305. The Evo blades are over priced crap, don't last if using on laminate boards and at over £32 a pop I bought a different brand and fitted a reducer ring to get round Evolution's monopoly from using a different size blade bore. To sum up the Evolution, it's crap.
Mate, I've just set mine up, and it's a beaut. But having never used anything like this before, I can't get the base to move, lol. It's locked at the angle it came out of the box. I'm sure it's something really obvious. Could you point me in the right direction? 😀
The orange handle at the front of the base unscrew it until loose and there’s a hook underneath that u can reach with your index finger, squeeze it like a trigger and rotate the base. Hope that makes sense 💪🏻👌🏻👍🏻
@@PlumbingGy What a legend! That's done it. Got a couple of sawhorses to make tomorrow, and I can get cracking on with them. Cheers mate. 👍
Nice one jay thanks for the support 🙏💪🏻
Great in depth review Dan, I also have this saw and had issues with the turntable not locking accurately however evolution where great in fixing the problems.
I also have a small youtube channel if you would like to have a nosy. Cheers Karl
Thanks Carl I appreciate it I will jump over after work and check it out
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Have you worked out how to collect the dust?
can you run this from a normal household plug?
Yes it has a normal 240 plug 👍🏻
can you put the evolution blade in any mitre saw to cut wood and metal ???
No unfortunately not as they vary in size
This saw is made to run slower than standard mitre saws to accommodate for cutting steel. Hope this helps.
@@spencercreekenterprises7703 Thanks for your reply
Just found your channel👍 Great review of this product. Been looking for a compound mitre saw as just started diy woodworking using old pallets and I’m sick of hand cutting the planks🤣 Think this video has made my mind up👍 Also have you any experience with the £99 Titan table saw from Screwfix?
Hi mark, thanks for the comment and the support. I have actually used the titan table saw on a few sites from the same joiner, he uses it as a back up saw and to be honest it's not bad for DIY purposes. I would recommend one but only home use 👍🏻
Do It All Dan thanks. It will be home use only. In recently got hold of a load of pallet wood so made a few planters and I’ve kind of got the bug🤣. I work for Openreach so got hold of on an 80cm diameter cable drum last week so two large wall clocks are in the pipeline🤣🤣🤣 I’ve found someone local selling pallets cheap so I’ve got all sorts of ideas in my head so thought I’d invest in some half decent wood working tools and see what happens.
I can't fault you Mark, definitely worth it as a small investment for the amount your going to be using it I would say. Make sure u get yourself on Pinterest for some more ideas haha
This do the trick for cutting laminate and skirting board
Hi Dan and all subscribers, it’s been over a year since you made this review.. can I ask you and your subscribers, what’s the longevity of this product? Is it still as good as your review states? 😕 I’m a DIY’er and I’m looking to get a good mitre saw, what’s your views on the Ryobi mitre saw over the Evolution mitre saw? 🙂
I still use my saw maybe once a week so not crazy amounts but i have another for on site and this one remains at home in the workshop. The saw still works fine and I have no issues that have arisen as yet. hope this helps
Hi, is this 60hz frequency?
50hz I’m afraid
@@PlumbingGy thanks,
Just bought one on the strength of this guy's review. (Screwfix).
Fingers crossed 😂💪🏻😁
Any good?
@@iamaduckquack As a novice DIYer its fine
now I buy the stand.
Have cut wood and steel, change the blade and cut tiles no problem. The only issue is
dust especially indoors, all in all, I'm happy with my purchase, getting a router, next.
Oh, and it required no adjustments.
@@stepheneurosailor1623 Thanks for the quick response as I'm looking to buy one tomorrow!
Hi dude can I ask would that cutter be ok to help me cut me new laminate flooring
It depends on how much you are going to use it, if it's a one time thing I would go with a dedicated laminate flooring hand saw and a cheap jig so you can do precision cuts.
If it's on a semi or pro use then I would invest in something a little better as this saw with this blade isn't the neatest at cutting. You can flip the wood over face down and get a better finish but you'll have to weigh up which option is best for you. Hope this helps and thanks for your support 👍🏻
Do It All Dan thanks for the advice
I'm desperate for one these but no one has any stock available, Unbelievable, and no one can get me one 🤬can anyone help or advise, please ,just want a sliding mitre saw, 🥴
My saw blade seems to be turning in the wrong direction. Does the part of your blade closest to you rotate up or down. Mine go downwards. Seems wrong to me.
There's an arrow on the blade to show direction 👍🏻👍🏻
Downward is the right correct way , think about it , if it was going upward , the debris would be flying straight at you. The blade would be pushing towards you. You’d need a fence on the side facing you if the blade spun “upwards”
Hi can it cut a scaffold board at 45 degrees ?
Not in one cut I'm afraid 👍🏻
Depends where you want the 45 degrees
Great looking toy.. but can i cut sleepers with it?
Depending on the depth of the sleepers I'm going to say no I'm afraid
@@PlumbingGy 100mm?
@@PlumbingGy will it cut a 4 inch deep sleeper? What is the maximum cut depth of this machine?
This is what I'm wondering... my (old with nails so this machine would be brilliant) sleepers are 12.5cm deep and 25cm across... I'm hoping that this will cut if I flip them over?
Can the blade be sharpen?
I wouldn't recommend it
@@PlumbingGy why do you say that?
How much is it??
I got one today for £159 from screwfix
Great review 👍
BUT does it cut at 90degrees
Lol turn the piece of wood around 😅👍🏻
5:41 think u cut the other side geez
Yeh I immediately saw that too... nice video edit to spin it round and no continuity.
Good DIY’er saw, no serious tradesman would use this.
It's a fairly sturdy saw, I do know two joiners who have purchased a saw each to use on site 👍🏻
Do It All Dan. Really?? I’m surprised a joiner would need a saw that cuts metals. First thing they would need to do is change the blade for a better cut, kinda defeats the object of it then, but hey, each to their own. Very well made vid though bud..
Thanks mate, I don't think they will be using it as a main saw when I was on site they were using it for stud walls so I wouldn't say they were worried about neat cuts. I think because it is quite cheap they figured why not 👍🏻 thanks mate
@@mrb4408 The proverbial know it all. You are talking rubbish, what is the problem cutting metal? Oh sorry yes you are the ‘not my job mate’ person. One on every site. 😂
@@Alfred_Pennyworth. 👍🏼
But the chips..🤢🤢😬😬
They sent me the saw..... Non biased review? From the start you are compromised if you rely upon the manufacturer to send you a product for review.
Not really as you do not know the terms.... A non biased review is required to adhere to the contract 👍🏻
NO DUST BAG!!!! WHY NOT??? HOW CAN'T THEY INCLUDE THIS?
Cos then you get to spend extra for their accessories!
Thought it was a review turned out to be a advert.0 out of 10 must do better.
I’m not sure what adverts you watch to be honest, and how did you conclude 0-10? Pretty sure it’s about content, information and relevance ……
Thanks though 👍🏻