For the Crobat rant, Kid me used a crobat in gen 3. Evolving it doesnt necessarily require you to know Friendship mechanic you just naturally end up evolving Golbat by walking, leveling up, and feeding it healing items.
Yeah, it may be tricky with Eevee evos, as the player may want to use a stone on them if they didn't know about friendship evolution...so they may not get a chance to see them. But if there is no split evolution, friendship evo just happens along the way. The only thing you have to do is to keep the pokemon in your party for long enough and use them frequently in battles.
Still requires said kid to already love Golbat, which is unlikely, given the number and variety of poison types available. A lot of you (not you specifically) forgot just how ugly his sprite was Gen 1, coming back to 2, ugly sprites got better and good spires got great.
I was going to say you had to battle the kimono girls who all had a evelution on them so theirs no way you don't know about Espeon and Umbreon. I remember randomly getting Espeon not knowing how it happened or the method.
You don't need to know how to evolve a Golbat into a Crobat. If you were a kid like me, and I think I have high odds of being right, you defaulted to assuming they'll evolve if you level them up enough, and spending enough time with a Pokemon that requires friendship will naturally lead into spending enough time with them that they'll get there with minimal intentional effort to build up its friendship. It is a very passive mechanic.
I never had trouble evolving Golbat. In any game I've used it, it has always evolved the next level after evolving into Golbat. The only exception I've ever had has been Legends Arceus, and only because it doesn't have to level up the second time- you can simply evolve it.
As some one who always had umbreon and crobat on the team in Johto its not that hard eventually theyll evolve just switch them in and out during battle
Right? Especially when it's something where like...the friendship is going to build as you level to Golbat. So...if you're not having your Zubat die every fight...it'll likely just evolve the level after Golbat.
You don’t have to know how to evolve Golbat through happiness, but when you get it prior to the first gym it’ll eventually like you enough to evolve. For the longest time I thought Golbat evolved somewhere between 35-39 as a kid since it was never consistent I thought it was a level range lmao
The Gen 4 bit is still so funny after all this time. It’s incredible how you make a Reigon filled to the brim new evolutions. And then you can’t use them. Replaying through Platinum with a team of unused Gen 4 Pokémon made me realize why everyone’s team is the same. My team was Infernape, Gengar, Porygon Z, Weavile, Gliscor, & Gastrodon
Or puting fire specialist E4 member with only two fire type evolution lines. I used Tangrowth and Houndoom during my Platinum playthrough. The Platinum dex improved the gen 4 games so much.
When I play a generation I usually like trying to make a team of only Pokémon introduced in said gen. Sinnoh genuinely only Infernape. Rotom Heat is locked behind an event that I'm pretty sure is only in Plat anyways and Magmortar is a trade evo. This shit is sadder than Johto and I Mental Gymnastics-ed my way into using a Magmar in Crystal because Magby was new.
@@bulbaa2241 Yes, but the difference is that the bug type is not exactly a very sought after type. Especially not in my playthroughs. Fire is like one of the big three types, its part of the most basic triangle in Pokémon. Who gives a shit about bug in comparison. Also me being the asshole that I am, I do not count Rotom Heat and Magmortar as available Gen 4 Fire Types, because whoever thought that locking the Rotom Forms behind a time sensitive event needs to be dunked in a vat of acid and the person responsible for trade evos needs to be taken behind the back. So by all mean Sinnoh has as much fire types as Kalos has bug types.
I think that you forgot how much something being a static encounter really bumps up the usage (Archeops and Zoroark in Gen 5 or getting a Toxtricity egg in Sword and Shield). If a good Pokémon is just given to you, you are a lot more likely to use it compared to having to go out and find it.
@lakshaybareja6562 I remember when I was playing through Silver as a kid, I had a team of only Static/Gift pokemon...I had a togetic, fearow and sudowoodo until the 8th gym.
I remember trying to use Archeops for a bit, before dropping it when I was how bad it's ability nerfed it. Such a waste of what could have been a good mon
I remember breeding a bunch of Alolan vulpixs and trading them out. People were trading crazy things for the things. I got half the Pokédex because of them
Your shocked reaction at Clodsire being popular is surprising. Besides the starters everyone has a Clodsire for a bit and either kept it around or boxed it since it’s base stats weren’t incredible, but even still Clodsire’s typing walls out so many of the main objectives, especially with Water Absorb.
I had one on my team for a few battles, but it's such a boring pokemon to use in battle. I did a toxic stall for like one battle, and now i never want to do it ever again.
My golden rule with new games is ALWAYS for the first time through the game I use a team made of new mons, with the exception of PLA. It's a great way to force myself to meet new pokemon and grow to like them, instead of falling back to favourites. I think, when Generation 10 is announced, I'm going to go completely blind for the first time.
I highly recommend going in blind, it's so much fun. I went into Sw/Sh and S/V both blind for the first time since gen 2 or 3 and I think that's why I have a better opinion of both generations than most.
I went into S/V mostly blind. I only knew about paradox and a few of the early route mons, and I think it was the best experience I've had (until I had a level 50 finizen and decided to look up how to evolve it)
I said something similar, the perception is skewed by competitive knowledge. Against anyone who knows what they're doing, Defeatist is too much of a detrimental ability, too easily exploited by your enemy. (Stealth Rocks + a single priority move does it in I'm pretty sure). However, the AI in-game isn't capable of doing so unless you're like in the Battle Tower or something. So instead, you have a blazingly fast sweeper with a strong offensive typing that hits super effectively against many different mons. It's the same reason Aerodactyl is considered op, but in its case it doesn't have a detrimental ability holding it back.
Yep, none of the in game opponents go hard enough to get it into Defeatist except the ones you KNOW going in will be impossible for it (so you don't use it on them except maybe to buy a turn or two to revive/heal more appropriate team members
"I had to have my starter at least two or three levels above the rest of the team and if they weren't, I felt uncomfortable." Thank you, Patterz. I feel very seen right now and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I have never understood this mindset. Even as a 6 year old playing Red for the first time I understood that you needed a team of 6 evenly leveled Pokemon. The idea of over-leveling your Starter and using the rest of the team purely for HMs and as sacrifices while you healed your Starter back up never even occurred to me.
I remember my first team: Blastoise (I didn’t know you could catch Pokemon - I was 5) I had a pet turtle at the time. My brother gave me his old copy of Pokemon Blue while he was playing Emerald. He was born 1990 and I in 2000. I didn’t really know what was going on but he helped me until I picked my starter and then just let me loose. I remember getting to level 18 with Wartortle in Viridian Forest because I could not find a single Pikachu and that was the only Pokemon I knew from the anime on Saturday mornings hahahaha. I got all the way to the elite 4 tho!! My brother ended up picking my moves so I’d be prepared for it: Ice Beam, Surf, earthquake, and Skull Bash. I got to pick skull bash cause I thought it was cool lol. I’m 24 now and Blastoise will always be my favorite Pokemon! Also, he will always be known to me as “Mr. Bubbles”. I never did end up beating the elite 4 because I kept running out of moves by the time I got to Blue . I didn’t know about elixirs lol. I remember finishing around level 80 tho. So I guess now I gotta do a solo run now in Blue and finally finish the game 19 years later 😂
16:53 Yeah while Archeops isn't good competitively, in a normal playthrough where you're most often faster and with Archen/Arcehops's high offenses Defeatist is rarely an issue, and you can often just heal with potions anyway if you fall into Defeatist range.
My first team is almost exactly the thumbnail. Started with yellow at 5 years old, team was Pikachu/Pidgeot/Nidoking and the starter trio. Crippling ice type weakness but what did I know as a toddler trainer lol
17:45 - I’m almost certain the anime helped put Chandelure on the map, because there were at least two episodes where Lampent was a central figure, and it was just so cool back then
Something I started doing in Gen 7/8 (can't remember when, exactly) is swapping out my Pokemon a lot as I built my team. It keeps the Exp. Share from being too overwhelming and it's a lot of fun to be able to use a lot of different Pokemon. I don't even remember what I took to the Elite Four in Gen 9, because after I finished the game I kept swapping out and raising new Pokemon to use, too.
If i remember correctly, my teams were Base Game: Meowscarada Grimmsnarl,Kingsgambit Fraxture & Wo-Chien and either Banette, Delphox, or Shiny Espeon kept getting swapped. I built a fantasy/dnd kinda theme here Teal Mask: Gliscor,Shiny Noivern Shiny Politoed,Kanto Tauros Tropius & Silther Wing Indigo Disk: I stopped playing for a while as it became backlogged and never optimized my team, but from what i remember assembling: Ogerpon,Shiny Quilladin (never evolving cause i love that form) Volcarona,Shiny Dragapult Paldea Taurous(water) & Great Tusk
Funny story about Crobat. As a kid(9-10) I was pissed you couldn’t get one in Firered. I didn’t know it was from friendship so I connected the game to Colosseum and used cheats to rare candy Golbat until it evolved. It’s such a vivid memory because that Golbat hated me because it evolved at level 74. Lol
When you transferred Golbat to Colosseum, its friendship was set to 0 because your Colosseum guy is a different trainer from the one in FireRed. Could be why it took so long to evolve.
Also the fact that Pokémon not in the Kanto dex couldn't be obtained until the postgame of FrLg, even through evolution. So your Golbat wouldn't have evolved until then anyway. I know from personal experience (wanted to get an Umbreon in one of my earliest playthroughs, but it kept refusing to evolve despite the exact requirements being met, so I gave up and evolved it into Jolteon instead).
@@ethnictendo Even if the requirements were met you still can’t get an Umbreon in FRLG. There is no day/night cycle so you have to trade from RSE just to get them. There is a shiny Espeon in the battle tower used to make kid me so angry. It felt like the game was taunting me with a Pokémon I wanted and it was shiny too.
Larvitar can be found in the Safari zone and you can access it before Jasmine. In HG/SS he has Rock Slide already at lvl 17 when you catch him as well. He is just a pain to raise
20:29 you can get a static Volcarona after Clay in B2W2. A tunnel opens up from Driftveil to the Relic Castle and you can get the Volcarona from the BW postgame. It’s level 35
I used to do the same thing with the starter until Alola. The gift Lycanroc could literally not be stopped. That’s also when I first noticed stats of Pokemon being swayed to physical and special and natures doing things. Let’s just say my first game I had to myself was White and my brothers would withhold information so I would always lose
Well, they were talking about GSC at the time Tyranitar was mentioned, which yes, is postgame in those games. As for HGSS, a lot of people simply don't like the Safari Zone, which was the only way to get it in the main story (and even then, the catch rate was obnoxiously low).
Ive realised since pokemon sun and moon ive stopped using the regional bird. I kind of figured if they're giving me an easier way to fly why not try something new and it left a spot on my team. It even allowed me to use one of my favorite regional forms galarian darmanitan
I always got a dratini and trained it using the vs seeker on the bike path near the entrance where that group of 6 bikers be chillin and I usually got the dragonite after only a day of grinding
In paldea, i used a different team for the main game and each of the dlcs Main game: Skeledirge, cyclizar, klawf, cetitan, ceruledge and baxcalibur Teal mask: gallade, mudsdale, dipplin, sinistcha, infernape and noivern Indigo disk: ogerpon, hydrapple, archaludon, kleavor, swampert and blissey
2:49 You could get a fire stone as a gift from a certain trainer if you added them into your contacts, there’s a trainer for each stone and the sun stone would be the big catching and in crystal there’s a hidden room in the puzzle area where you catch unown to get a moon stone or if you’re really lucky your mother can buy a moon stone if you let her have funds.
Whenever i play pokemon i usually tend to stick to the 'starter' (included in the type trio) a flying type, and coverage types generally. Sometimes deviating on replays
Since you had this conversation, the versions I bought first on their gens were: Blue Crystal Sapphire, Fire Red Pearl, Soul Silver White, White 2 X, Alpha Sapphire Moon, (didn't plan Ultra) Let's Go Pikachu Shield, Brilliant Diamond Violet
I didn't start until FR/LG but I got Ruby later so Ruby Leaf Green Platinum Heart Gold Black White 2 X Omega Ruby Moon Ultra Moon Shield Shining Pearl Scarlet
Patterrz being surprised by no fairy types being on the final team when the biggest thing i remember from that time was everyone at my school who played hated the fairy type just cuz
I also would always keep my starter 1-2 levels above the rest of my team. By gens 2-3 I had developed a system where I would level up each member of my team a few levels at a time, to keep them all equal, but always making sure the starter stayed the highest.
Heracross wasnt a headbutt only encounter. Was just EXTREMELY difficult to get otherwise. I got one in my gen 2 walkthrough without headbutting trees for pokemon and got my Skarmory in the grass at blackthorn.
My first game was the original Red version, my team was: Charizard (i prefer Venusaur now) Raichu Kadabra Dragonite Pidgeot Mewtwo And yes, i caught missingno
Patterrz I heard some news the other day that made me sad. I rewatched one of your Scarlet Nuzlocke videos and it made me laugh Thank you for brightening up that day for me
My Kanto team is: - Pride the Charizard (starter) - Wrath II the Gyarados (bought for $500) - Envy the Mew (via Glitch in Cerulean) - Sloth the Snorlax (fishing route) - Lust the Mewtwo (Ditto Glith Lavender) - Wrath the Rhydon (Safari Zone) Wrath II later replaced with: - Greed the Gengar All changed to 4 perfect DVs using 8F
The stones in crystal were phone calls if i recall fire stone was the ire breather in union cave. The one i frequently needed was the thunderstone from the lass just west of morty's city for jolteon.
And the friendship mechanic is easy for a kid to get. My favorite pokemon is togepi, so my first action when getting the Togepi egg in HGSS when I was a kid was to walk around in circles and battle gastly in sprout trower (they cant hurt togepi and extrasensory is supereffective) until it evolved into Togetic.
1 - While it's not the best mon around competitively, Archeops is *amazing* in a playthrough, and will often one round or two round anything you put it up against due to its excellent movepool. Defeatist rarely comes into play during maingame due to Archeops having very optimized stats too, thankfully, and using Archeops is like having an early Salamence on your team. 2 - 18:38 Personally I found XY to have the best distribution, though B2W2 definitely comes very close to it. Also, B2W2 *did not sell badly,* they were the second best selling "third" version at the time, only beaten by Yellow, though Yellow was helped by being made at the peak of the Pokemon craze. USUM would later take B2W2's position as second best selling "third" version though.
One thing about Silver and Gold was it came out when GameShark's were popular. So people would cheat encounters into the early game. It's how I found out that Dratini actually sucks as your "starting" pokemon
I was a kid. So i didn't know you could catch Pikachu in the forest nor did I know that the floppy red fish turned into Gyarados. As an adult and knowing what I know, I pick pretty much like everyone else.
I love how everyone just accepts that we all used the same team unknowingly and unintentionally in gen 4. Especially since at least half of your team is already caught before the first gym.
@@abyssalnothingness Yes, that's what I said. Ho-oh and Lugia aren't version exclusives, so you can catch both Ho-oh and Lugia without trading in both games.
It's an interesting trend I've noticed that, while most people I've talked to don't have a strong opinion on Perrserker one way or the other, the few people from the UK that I interact with adore the little fella almost unanimously. Maybe the guy just has a distinctly British Isles appeal to him.
Until Sun and Moon, my strategy for every Pokemon game (starting with Red) was to have a Water type, a Grass Type, a Fire Type, an Electric Type, a Flying Type, and then the last Pokemon was usually either a Fighting or Psychic type. And none of these Pokemon could have any type overlaps. It was only with Sword and Shield that I started actually thinking about Coverage and branching out in terms of team composition. I also refused to ever swap anything out, once a mon was on the team it was on for life. So my team was basically just the first mon of each type I found.
I remember how I had to use Pawmot as my electric type in Violote even though I wanted to use Kilovatrel, but Desteny said no by giving me a Shiny Rookidee before my first gym battle, and no way I don't use a fullods Shiny for the entire run of the game. But I then used it in the other version
9:40 - I just want to point out that despite what people think, we DID have internet as kids in the 90's & found out how to evolve Pokemon online. Where do you think the idea of "Pikablu" and "Charcoal" (Charizard's supposed 4th evolution) and Mew's behind the truck came from? 90's internet forums!
It wouldn't matter if they did know how to evolve golbat or not, friendship evolutions happen naturally through using the pokemon given enough time, so they would have just had golbat for a while before it evolved.
I won’t lie, I actually used Noctowl on my team when I played through Gold on an original cartridge back in 2023. It wasn’t actually too bad. Granted, I was trying to use Pokémon I hadn’t used before, so my team also felt kinda random. There was Hypno, Forretress, Feraligatr, Noctowl, I tried Arcanine but realized that I had no way to evolve growlithe so I swapped it out with Ursaring, and then Dragonite, and yes, I did evolve it to a Dragonite before I challenged the elite four. Because I wanted my team to be fully evolved before I beat the game. And yes, you can catch it before the elite four, you can fish for it in the route after Blackthorn city
Patterz, we have the same taste! I played yellow, blue, silver, ruby and pearl! And after that, white, x, moon, shield and violet. I always feel like my choices are the less popular ones, but maybe not, haha. Then again, i still love chikorita.
You were confused by no Eelektross in Unova, so let me explain Tynamo is a 2% encounter in Chargestone Cave, evolves at Level 39, and then evolves by stone The issue being Eelektrik is the only one of the 3 who could learn moves by level up, meaning until level 39, your best moves were SPARK and CHARGE BEAM
1. You clearly have forgotten that Magikarp only has Splash when you get it. Only someone who already knows what it evolves into, or simply are getting everything they can and banging their head into a wall until something happens, would ever buy it and then train it, which means the majority of people think they got scammed and shove it in a box. 2. And then you argue against Crobat, a Pokémon who doesn't need the knowledge of how to get it for it to come about. If people just stick ton Golbat for long enough, it will naturally evolve. As a bunch of the comments have already yelled at you for. Wow. Really said "Nah, they are using hindsight to put in Crobat," when you need hindsight to know that the dumb fish with a non-damaging move becomes a behemoth if you struggle through training it. Shame on you and your cow. And then you go "Oh yeah, I was randomly walking around with my Gen 9 tumbleweed Pokémon, and it evolved!" 3. Scyther got no love in Gen 1, so of course the sequel game with a Bug type Gym is going to include it. But Heracross? The thing is way too strong to be a 2nd Gym Leader battle. It's better for a Fighting type trainer.
sorryz but I went with Fearow in my gen 1 games mostly due to the fact it had a better moveset which included mirror move which while annoying to deal with if its on your opponent its a huge help if its on your side ... yes I chose Charmander, in the one playthrough I did use Nidoking because I caught a shiny nidoran male, I never evoed my Pikachu, I took Gyarados, and my final pokemon was Dragonite since it was worth it to spend hours in the safari zone to getz either a Dratini or Dragonair just so you can answer Lances Dragonite with one of your own ... that said I'm sure there will be a few nonpopular mon that I chose to take due to me either liking how the mon looked or its moves proved too useful to pass up ... for example when gen 3 introduced Absol I loved the mon so much that if it was in the later gen games I actively seeked it out and made it my team leader from gen 3 onwards
That’s funny because I didn’t have the ground rabbit type, I’m having trouble saying it’s name in that game, but in sword, I found a shiny one and named it Bugs Bunny
I have come to realise I fall within the small minority who doesn't really use the most used mons or the runner ups most of the time and I'm OK with that.
Cyndaquill is literally the greatest pokemon ever designed, also no Quagsire feels weird lmao, he is one of the funny low bst mons that are still great
I remember my first REAL sinnoh team (I don’t count my first playthrough where I just used infernape, dialga and I think some other random Pokémon I caught in my way) and I had infernape (lucky for me the fire starter is my fav in that gen) floatzel, gliscor, roserade yanmega and weavile I stopped using box legends pretty early on so giratina hit the bench I feel like my team was pretty unique and tbh besides the fire type problem I don’t think it’s that bad it’s just that the popular Pokémon can be caught pretty easily early on so people just stick to it
Wow, my gen 9 team could not have looked more different! I mean, I guess it technically could have, since it had Tinkaton, but with Meowscarada settling for silver, my team was still 5/6 different. Meowscarada, Tinkaton, Armarouge, Gengar (in-game trade), The Great Tusk & Cetitan
Honestly, the fact that so many of the Johto gym leaders didn't even use new Johto mons was ridiculous. Faulkner only having a Pidgey and Pidgeotto and no Hoothoot, Bugsy only having Kanto mons and no Spinarak, Ledyba, or Heracross, Whitney having Clefairy instead of Sentret, Morty not having a Mistreavus, (God the more I type the more I realize just how much of a shit show gen 2 was), Chuck not having Hitmontop, Jasmine not having Skarmory (I MEAN WHO ELSE FORGETS SKARMORY WAS EVEN INTRODUCED IN GEN 2) Pryce could have had a Swinub instead of a Seel (not even ice type), CLAIR... I mean FFS three Dragonair... WHY MAKE IT A DRAGON GYM??? God, and so many Johto mons being only available AFTER beating the game and IN KANTO. I mean, all of that, plus the shitty level curving... like wtf were they thinking?
I have my Pokemon legends arceus and it’s kinda close, my team was hisuian decidueye, hisuian zoroark, alpha kleavor, alpha garchomp, alpha lucario and a hisuian arcanine
We gonna talk about how patterz Gen 6 team gets absolutely SLAMMED by a single unburden Hawlucha? No? Ok
Oh my arceus, The only thing not weak to hawlucha is sylveon
Can't it learn poison jab? That takes care of the Sylveon
@@johancobo5088it gets iron head also
@@johancobo5088Yes, but it's weaker than Acrobatics after STAB. Super effective Poison Jab is 160 and STAB Acrobatics is 165
As Mexican, I'm so happy Hawlucha is a thing.
For the Crobat rant, Kid me used a crobat in gen 3. Evolving it doesnt necessarily require you to know Friendship mechanic you just naturally end up evolving Golbat by walking, leveling up, and feeding it healing items.
Nice to see im not alone 🥲
Yeah, that was a weird rant. I used a Roserade on damn near every team that I caught as a Budew.
I used Crobat when I played through Omega Ruby.
Yeah, it may be tricky with Eevee evos, as the player may want to use a stone on them if they didn't know about friendship evolution...so they may not get a chance to see them. But if there is no split evolution, friendship evo just happens along the way. The only thing you have to do is to keep the pokemon in your party for long enough and use them frequently in battles.
Still requires said kid to already love Golbat, which is unlikely, given the number and variety of poison types available. A lot of you (not you specifically) forgot just how ugly his sprite was Gen 1, coming back to 2, ugly sprites got better and good spires got great.
“I didn’t know there were Johto eeveelutions when I was a kid” despite the fact that you only got the the surf HM if you you beat all five of them…
I was going to say you had to battle the kimono girls who all had a evelution on them so theirs no way you don't know about Espeon and Umbreon. I remember randomly getting Espeon not knowing how it happened or the method.
probably didn't know how to get them
@@kylewood4488-b9r Maybe he knew the pokemon existed, but didn't make the connection that they were Eeveelutions.
@@Aquilennethen he was a dumb kid
@@kylewood4488-b9rKnowing about them doesn't mean you know they evolve from Eevee.
You don't need to know how to evolve a Golbat into a Crobat. If you were a kid like me, and I think I have high odds of being right, you defaulted to assuming they'll evolve if you level them up enough, and spending enough time with a Pokemon that requires friendship will naturally lead into spending enough time with them that they'll get there with minimal intentional effort to build up its friendship. It is a very passive mechanic.
Exactly, it’s only frustrating when you know it uses friendship and want it as soon as possible
I never had trouble evolving Golbat. In any game I've used it, it has always evolved the next level after evolving into Golbat. The only exception I've ever had has been Legends Arceus, and only because it doesn't have to level up the second time- you can simply evolve it.
As some one who always had umbreon and crobat on the team in Johto its not that hard eventually theyll evolve just switch them in and out during battle
@@LacTose90 Also,.if you win a battle in the same place you caught the pokemon, its friendship points will increase by twice the amount!
Right? Especially when it's something where like...the friendship is going to build as you level to Golbat. So...if you're not having your Zubat die every fight...it'll likely just evolve the level after Golbat.
You don’t have to know how to evolve Golbat through happiness, but when you get it prior to the first gym it’ll eventually like you enough to evolve. For the longest time I thought Golbat evolved somewhere between 35-39 as a kid since it was never consistent I thought it was a level range lmao
The Gen 4 bit is still so funny after all this time. It’s incredible how you make a Reigon filled to the brim new evolutions. And then you can’t use them.
Replaying through Platinum with a team of unused Gen 4 Pokémon made me realize why everyone’s team is the same.
My team was Infernape, Gengar, Porygon Z, Weavile, Gliscor, & Gastrodon
Or puting fire specialist E4 member with only two fire type evolution lines. I used Tangrowth and Houndoom during my Platinum playthrough. The Platinum dex improved the gen 4 games so much.
When I play a generation I usually like trying to make a team of only Pokémon introduced in said gen.
Sinnoh genuinely only Infernape. Rotom Heat is locked behind an event that I'm pretty sure is only in Plat anyways and Magmortar is a trade evo.
This shit is sadder than Johto and I Mental Gymnastics-ed my way into using a Magmar in Crystal because Magby was new.
@ShadowPKMNcz have you ever heard of Kalos bug types because there's less of them than sinnoh fire types
@@bulbaa2241 only the scatterbug evo-line right?
@@bulbaa2241 Yes, but the difference is that the bug type is not exactly a very sought after type. Especially not in my playthroughs. Fire is like one of the big three types, its part of the most basic triangle in Pokémon. Who gives a shit about bug in comparison.
Also me being the asshole that I am, I do not count Rotom Heat and Magmortar as available Gen 4 Fire Types, because whoever thought that locking the Rotom Forms behind a time sensitive event needs to be dunked in a vat of acid and the person responsible for trade evos needs to be taken behind the back. So by all mean Sinnoh has as much fire types as Kalos has bug types.
I think that you forgot how much something being a static encounter really bumps up the usage (Archeops and Zoroark in Gen 5 or getting a Toxtricity egg in Sword and Shield). If a good Pokémon is just given to you, you are a lot more likely to use it compared to having to go out and find it.
I just feel bad for not using a gift pokemon
@lakshaybareja6562 I remember when I was playing through Silver as a kid, I had a team of only Static/Gift pokemon...I had a togetic, fearow and sudowoodo until the 8th gym.
@@Sammy_TD So You yoinked Kenya I see
Archeops is ugly and I went with the other fossil xD but I agree on gift mon
I remember trying to use Archeops for a bit, before dropping it when I was how bad it's ability nerfed it. Such a waste of what could have been a good mon
Alolan Ninetales was exclusive to Sun, so Moon players didn't have access to it unless they traded.
I remember breeding a bunch of Alolan vulpixs and trading them out. People were trading crazy things for the things. I got half the Pokédex because of them
@@shippouma121 Same.
who was playing Pokemon moon
@@mewmere6069 Me, because Moon had the 12 hour time difference which was cool and unique.
@@mewmere6069 me because I like bats and lunala is a bat
Your shocked reaction at Clodsire being popular is surprising. Besides the starters everyone has a Clodsire for a bit and either kept it around or boxed it since it’s base stats weren’t incredible, but even still Clodsire’s typing walls out so many of the main objectives, especially with Water Absorb.
Clodsire is honestly lucky he is a clone of the un power creepable Quagsire
I had one on my team for a few battles, but it's such a boring pokemon to use in battle. I did a toxic stall for like one battle, and now i never want to do it ever again.
@@waterierStone I just spammed poison jab (or maybe it was gunk shot) and earthquake and it went great
I actually used Clodsire throughout my SV playthrough. The moment I saw Paldean Wooper for the first time, I knew it had to be on my team.
I had a clodsire because I've been a part of the whoopy boy fan club since I was a kid. Quagsire exuded sigma energy.
My golden rule with new games is ALWAYS for the first time through the game I use a team made of new mons, with the exception of PLA. It's a great way to force myself to meet new pokemon and grow to like them, instead of falling back to favourites. I think, when Generation 10 is announced, I'm going to go completely blind for the first time.
I highly recommend going in blind, it's so much fun. I went into Sw/Sh and S/V both blind for the first time since gen 2 or 3 and I think that's why I have a better opinion of both generations than most.
I went into S/V mostly blind. I only knew about paradox and a few of the early route mons, and I think it was the best experience I've had (until I had a level 50 finizen and decided to look up how to evolve it)
Everybody: Keys are a stupid idea for a Pokemon!!!
Also Everybody: This chandelier kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!!
BRO, I WILL NOT HEAR THIS ARCHEOPS SLANDER IN MY HOUSEHOLD, THAT MONS SWEEPS THROUGH SO MANY BATTLES EASILY😂
I said something similar, the perception is skewed by competitive knowledge. Against anyone who knows what they're doing, Defeatist is too much of a detrimental ability, too easily exploited by your enemy. (Stealth Rocks + a single priority move does it in I'm pretty sure).
However, the AI in-game isn't capable of doing so unless you're like in the Battle Tower or something. So instead, you have a blazingly fast sweeper with a strong offensive typing that hits super effectively against many different mons. It's the same reason Aerodactyl is considered op, but in its case it doesn't have a detrimental ability holding it back.
Yep, none of the in game opponents go hard enough to get it into Defeatist except the ones you KNOW going in will be impossible for it (so you don't use it on them except maybe to buy a turn or two to revive/heal more appropriate team members
"I had to have my starter at least two or three levels above the rest of the team and if they weren't, I felt uncomfortable."
Thank you, Patterz. I feel very seen right now and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I have never understood this mindset. Even as a 6 year old playing Red for the first time I understood that you needed a team of 6 evenly leveled Pokemon. The idea of over-leveling your Starter and using the rest of the team purely for HMs and as sacrifices while you healed your Starter back up never even occurred to me.
For me it’s the opposire
“I don’t know how many kids could get Crobat”
Crobat was my love when I was 9
I remember my first team: Blastoise (I didn’t know you could catch Pokemon - I was 5) I had a pet turtle at the time. My brother gave me his old copy of Pokemon Blue while he was playing Emerald. He was born 1990 and I in 2000. I didn’t really know what was going on but he helped me until I picked my starter and then just let me loose. I remember getting to level 18 with Wartortle in Viridian Forest because I could not find a single Pikachu and that was the only Pokemon I knew from the anime on Saturday mornings hahahaha. I got all the way to the elite 4 tho!! My brother ended up picking my moves so I’d be prepared for it: Ice Beam, Surf, earthquake, and Skull Bash. I got to pick skull bash cause I thought it was cool lol. I’m 24 now and Blastoise will always be my favorite Pokemon! Also, he will always be known to me as “Mr. Bubbles”. I never did end up beating the elite 4 because I kept running out of moves by the time I got to Blue . I didn’t know about elixirs lol. I remember finishing around level 80 tho. So I guess now I gotta do a solo run now in Blue and finally finish the game 19 years later 😂
As a kid I had crobat early. Had No clue how it evolved. But to be fair by the time zubat evolved it was already max happiness.
16:53 Yeah while Archeops isn't good competitively, in a normal playthrough where you're most often faster and with Archen/Arcehops's high offenses Defeatist is rarely an issue, and you can often just heal with potions anyway if you fall into Defeatist range.
My first team is almost exactly the thumbnail. Started with yellow at 5 years old, team was Pikachu/Pidgeot/Nidoking and the starter trio. Crippling ice type weakness but what did I know as a toddler trainer lol
Almost everyone who played Diamond and pearl had a staraptor luxray floatzel starter and bidoof
Correct you just described half my team
I feel weird being a person who didnt have all of these or lucario on a platinum team (i had the middle stage of staraptor only for fly)
I had my Infernape with Staraptor, Bibarel, Luxray, Roselia(eventually replaced with Abomasnow), and Gyarados.
@@Nah9746yeah but Platinum's different cuz DP was a lot more limited in Pokemon
@@Nah9746 platinum has a more accessible dex
"Its gonna be a fire sweep"
Swampert:You forgot that hoeen is 90% water right?
17:45 - I’m almost certain the anime helped put Chandelure on the map, because there were at least two episodes where Lampent was a central figure, and it was just so cool back then
Gen 1 team consisted of 50% hm slaves
Something I started doing in Gen 7/8 (can't remember when, exactly) is swapping out my Pokemon a lot as I built my team. It keeps the Exp. Share from being too overwhelming and it's a lot of fun to be able to use a lot of different Pokemon. I don't even remember what I took to the Elite Four in Gen 9, because after I finished the game I kept swapping out and raising new Pokemon to use, too.
If i remember correctly, my teams were
Base Game:
Meowscarada
Grimmsnarl,Kingsgambit
Fraxture & Wo-Chien
and either Banette, Delphox, or Shiny Espeon kept getting swapped. I built a fantasy/dnd kinda theme here
Teal Mask: Gliscor,Shiny Noivern
Shiny Politoed,Kanto Tauros
Tropius & Silther Wing
Indigo Disk: I stopped playing for a while as it became backlogged and never optimized my team, but from what i remember assembling:
Ogerpon,Shiny Quilladin (never evolving cause i love that form)
Volcarona,Shiny Dragapult
Paldea Taurous(water) & Great Tusk
Same
7:50 I couldn't wait to hear your "WHAT??" because even as someone who chose Bulbasaur on my first OG Yellow version before the 2000s
Funny story about Crobat. As a kid(9-10) I was pissed you couldn’t get one in Firered. I didn’t know it was from friendship so I connected the game to Colosseum and used cheats to rare candy Golbat until it evolved. It’s such a vivid memory because that Golbat hated me because it evolved at level 74. Lol
When you transferred Golbat to Colosseum, its friendship was set to 0 because your Colosseum guy is a different trainer from the one in FireRed. Could be why it took so long to evolve.
Also the fact that Pokémon not in the Kanto dex couldn't be obtained until the postgame of FrLg, even through evolution. So your Golbat wouldn't have evolved until then anyway. I know from personal experience (wanted to get an Umbreon in one of my earliest playthroughs, but it kept refusing to evolve despite the exact requirements being met, so I gave up and evolved it into Jolteon instead).
@@ethnictendo Even if the requirements were met you still can’t get an Umbreon in FRLG. There is no day/night cycle so you have to trade from RSE just to get them. There is a shiny Espeon in the battle tower used to make kid me so angry. It felt like the game was taunting me with a Pokémon I wanted and it was shiny too.
I mean, my first gen 4 playtrough did in fact have a crobat. I didnt know how to evolve it, it just kinda happened after a while.
In HGSS can catch a Larvitar in the Safari Zone btw, it’s available as a regular spawn. Many RUclipsrs have caught it
Larvitar can be found in the Safari zone and you can access it before Jasmine. In HG/SS he has Rock Slide already at lvl 17 when you catch him as well. He is just a pain to raise
It's only HGSS where it's in the Safari Zone unfortunately.
20:29 you can get a static Volcarona after Clay in B2W2. A tunnel opens up from Driftveil to the Relic Castle and you can get the Volcarona from the BW postgame. It’s level 35
Seismitoad not learning Waterfall is criminal though
Bruh, My Gen 6 Team was pretty much all Gift Pokemon lol.
they made Gen 6 way too easy with that many gift mons
I used to do the same thing with the starter until Alola. The gift Lycanroc could literally not be stopped. That’s also when I first noticed stats of Pokemon being swayed to physical and special and natures doing things. Let’s just say my first game I had to myself was White and my brothers would withhold information so I would always lose
My boy is the most popular Johto starter. Love to see it
14:48 bro same 😂
I was pretty young playing on my gameboy adv and used Crobat, he evolved just naturally training him
How do people not know that larvitar can be caught in the safari zone after the 6th gym in hg/ss
Well, they were talking about GSC at the time Tyranitar was mentioned, which yes, is postgame in those games. As for HGSS, a lot of people simply don't like the Safari Zone, which was the only way to get it in the main story (and even then, the catch rate was obnoxiously low).
Ive realised since pokemon sun and moon ive stopped using the regional bird. I kind of figured if they're giving me an easier way to fly why not try something new and it left a spot on my team. It even allowed me to use one of my favorite regional forms galarian darmanitan
I always got a dratini and trained it using the vs seeker on the bike path near the entrance where that group of 6 bikers be chillin and I usually got the dragonite after only a day of grinding
In paldea, i used a different team for the main game and each of the dlcs
Main game: Skeledirge, cyclizar, klawf, cetitan, ceruledge and baxcalibur
Teal mask: gallade, mudsdale, dipplin, sinistcha, infernape and noivern
Indigo disk: ogerpon, hydrapple, archaludon, kleavor, swampert and blissey
I did force myself to use different pokemon for dlc bitvalways kept Kirito(skeledirge) and Godzilla(baxcalibur) as backup
@@TheReddinotimeforce that reminds me that i also kept skeledirge at the start because i would have lost with my gallade and mudsdale
Pat going back to look at old nuzlockes…. Where you don’t get to choose your team.😂 Love the vids Patterz
2:49 You could get a fire stone as a gift from a certain trainer if you added them into your contacts, there’s a trainer for each stone and the sun stone would be the big catching and in crystal there’s a hidden room in the puzzle area where you catch unown to get a moon stone or if you’re really lucky your mother can buy a moon stone if you let her have funds.
Whenever i play pokemon i usually tend to stick to the 'starter' (included in the type trio) a flying type, and coverage types generally. Sometimes deviating on replays
Since you had this conversation, the versions I bought first on their gens were:
Blue
Crystal
Sapphire, Fire Red
Pearl, Soul Silver
White, White 2
X, Alpha Sapphire
Moon, (didn't plan Ultra)
Let's Go Pikachu
Shield, Brilliant Diamond
Violet
I didn't start until FR/LG but I got Ruby later so
Ruby
Leaf Green
Platinum
Heart Gold
Black
White 2
X
Omega Ruby
Moon
Ultra Moon
Shield
Shining Pearl
Scarlet
Then there are ppl like me who rotate between 20 to 30 different pokemon in one playthrough cause I want to use them all. 😅
Patterrz being surprised by no fairy types being on the final team when the biggest thing i remember from that time was everyone at my school who played hated the fairy type just cuz
Modern twitter gonna have a field day when they see Patterz and AuraGuardian say the term HM slave
Lol fuck those Twitter people respectfully
Weird how much language changed over the years. That was just the term since it was what that Pokémon was used for
"Shut up, Me" that's a quote for the ages.
I also would always keep my starter 1-2 levels above the rest of my team. By gens 2-3 I had developed a system where I would level up each member of my team a few levels at a time, to keep them all equal, but always making sure the starter stayed the highest.
Heracross wasnt a headbutt only encounter. Was just EXTREMELY difficult to get otherwise. I got one in my gen 2 walkthrough without headbutting trees for pokemon and got my Skarmory in the grass at blackthorn.
12:56 "I Herd u like mudkips"
My first game was the original Red version, my team was:
Charizard (i prefer Venusaur now)
Raichu
Kadabra
Dragonite
Pidgeot
Mewtwo
And yes, i caught missingno
“Theres not much merch for Luxray at all” cries in Furfrou/Kecleon enjoyer
Patterrz I heard some news the other day that made me sad. I rewatched one of your Scarlet Nuzlocke videos and it made me laugh
Thank you for brightening up that day for me
My Kanto team is:
- Pride the Charizard (starter)
- Wrath II the Gyarados (bought for $500)
- Envy the Mew (via Glitch in Cerulean)
- Sloth the Snorlax (fishing route)
- Lust the Mewtwo (Ditto Glith Lavender)
- Wrath the Rhydon (Safari Zone)
Wrath II later replaced with:
- Greed the Gengar
All changed to 4 perfect DVs using 8F
YES, GIVE MY BOI SWAMPERT ALL THE LOVE! My favorite Pokemon of all time!
First game was Sun:
Decidueye, Machoke, Salazzle, Wishiwashi, Toucannon, Solgaleo
Eh, could've been better.
16:30 wrong
I used palkia, not floatzel
The stones in crystal were phone calls if i recall fire stone was the ire breather in union cave. The one i frequently needed was the thunderstone from the lass just west of morty's city for jolteon.
And the friendship mechanic is easy for a kid to get. My favorite pokemon is togepi, so my first action when getting the Togepi egg in HGSS when I was a kid was to walk around in circles and battle gastly in sprout trower (they cant hurt togepi and extrasensory is supereffective) until it evolved into Togetic.
1 - While it's not the best mon around competitively, Archeops is *amazing* in a playthrough, and will often one round or two round anything you put it up against due to its excellent movepool. Defeatist rarely comes into play during maingame due to Archeops having very optimized stats too, thankfully, and using Archeops is like having an early Salamence on your team.
2 - 18:38 Personally I found XY to have the best distribution, though B2W2 definitely comes very close to it. Also, B2W2 *did not sell badly,* they were the second best selling "third" version at the time, only beaten by Yellow, though Yellow was helped by being made at the peak of the Pokemon craze. USUM would later take B2W2's position as second best selling "third" version though.
One thing about Silver and Gold was it came out when GameShark's were popular. So people would cheat encounters into the early game. It's how I found out that Dratini actually sucks as your "starting" pokemon
I was a kid. So i didn't know you could catch Pikachu in the forest nor did I know that the floppy red fish turned into Gyarados.
As an adult and knowing what I know, I pick pretty much like everyone else.
Where do you even find axew? 18:00 i played gen 5 3 months ago and my team was way different than this poll
I love that pat watches the sponsor segment, such a good guy 😊
I love how everyone just accepts that we all used the same team unknowingly and unintentionally in gen 4. Especially since at least half of your team is already caught before the first gym.
10:58 Fun Fact: Lugia isn't a Version Exclusive in Johto, so it can actually be used in Gold, not just Silver.
Yeah it can be traded like all versions exclusives but can you get it in Gold?
@@abyssalnothingness Yes, that's what I said.
Ho-oh and Lugia aren't version exclusives, so you can catch both Ho-oh and Lugia without trading in both games.
My gen 2 team was basically the same but instead of gyarados i had lanturn and so was gen 3 except for manectric for kyogure/rayquaza.
It's an interesting trend I've noticed that, while most people I've talked to don't have a strong opinion on Perrserker one way or the other, the few people from the UK that I interact with adore the little fella almost unanimously. Maybe the guy just has a distinctly British Isles appeal to him.
Purrserker was one of my first shinies that I naturally encountered in Sword. I used him until close to the end of the game.
"Am I a dumb idiot?" Me to myself often.
The thing is The Zubat line couldn’t actually learn fly until Gen 4…
Zubat and Golbat couldn't until gen 4 but Crobat always could.
Until Sun and Moon, my strategy for every Pokemon game (starting with Red) was to have a Water type, a Grass Type, a Fire Type, an Electric Type, a Flying Type, and then the last Pokemon was usually either a Fighting or Psychic type. And none of these Pokemon could have any type overlaps. It was only with Sword and Shield that I started actually thinking about Coverage and branching out in terms of team composition.
I also refused to ever swap anything out, once a mon was on the team it was on for life. So my team was basically just the first mon of each type I found.
I remember how I had to use Pawmot as my electric type in Violote even though I wanted to use Kilovatrel, but Desteny said no by giving me a Shiny Rookidee before my first gym battle, and no way I don't use a fullods Shiny for the entire run of the game.
But I then used it in the other version
Need to create these teams and battle to see which one is the best overall
Are we not going to talk about how in crystal you cant get Ampharos without trading. What would be the pokemon to replace it?
I can‘t unsee that guardevoir face now 😭
Crystal was my first pokemon game and my team was Gatr, Vaporeon, Growlithe, Vileplume, Graveler (had no one to trade with) and Pidgeot
9:40 - I just want to point out that despite what people think, we DID have internet as kids in the 90's & found out how to evolve Pokemon online.
Where do you think the idea of "Pikablu" and "Charcoal" (Charizard's supposed 4th evolution) and Mew's behind the truck came from? 90's internet forums!
20:00 I liked how Patterz says this, but didn’t say anything when Red and Blue’s team had 3 electric type weaknesses😂
because it also had an immunity and a resist
14:40 I lowkey feel the same way now and I’m 17 like I get uncomfy if my starter is a lower level
It wouldn't matter if they did know how to evolve golbat or not, friendship evolutions happen naturally through using the pokemon given enough time, so they would have just had golbat for a while before it evolved.
I won’t lie, I actually used Noctowl on my team when I played through Gold on an original cartridge back in 2023. It wasn’t actually too bad. Granted, I was trying to use Pokémon I hadn’t used before, so my team also felt kinda random. There was Hypno, Forretress, Feraligatr, Noctowl, I tried Arcanine but realized that I had no way to evolve growlithe so I swapped it out with Ursaring, and then Dragonite, and yes, I did evolve it to a Dragonite before I challenged the elite four. Because I wanted my team to be fully evolved before I beat the game. And yes, you can catch it before the elite four, you can fish for it in the route after Blackthorn city
you can get a fire stone in the pokeathalon on sundays tuesdays, and thursdays, i hope this information helps future playthroughs!
Patterz, we have the same taste! I played yellow, blue, silver, ruby and pearl! And after that, white, x, moon, shield and violet. I always feel like my choices are the less popular ones, but maybe not, haha. Then again, i still love chikorita.
My Ace in White 2 was a Golduck. That game solidified THAT Golduck as one of my favorite pokemon I had in my playthroughs. Still have him!
You were confused by no Eelektross in Unova, so let me explain
Tynamo is a 2% encounter in Chargestone Cave, evolves at Level 39, and then evolves by stone
The issue being Eelektrik is the only one of the 3 who could learn moves by level up, meaning until level 39, your best moves were SPARK and CHARGE BEAM
33:10 i used decidueye, kleavor, gallade, steelix, hisuian zoroark and palkia
Alolan ninetales is at the very end (just before the E4) of the game so very few people change there team to add an ice type at end
I relate so much to that but about your starter being a few levels above the rest of your team. I still do that to this day.
1. You clearly have forgotten that Magikarp only has Splash when you get it. Only someone who already knows what it evolves into, or simply are getting everything they can and banging their head into a wall until something happens, would ever buy it and then train it, which means the majority of people think they got scammed and shove it in a box.
2. And then you argue against Crobat, a Pokémon who doesn't need the knowledge of how to get it for it to come about. If people just stick ton Golbat for long enough, it will naturally evolve. As a bunch of the comments have already yelled at you for.
Wow. Really said "Nah, they are using hindsight to put in Crobat," when you need hindsight to know that the dumb fish with a non-damaging move becomes a behemoth if you struggle through training it. Shame on you and your cow.
And then you go "Oh yeah, I was randomly walking around with my Gen 9 tumbleweed Pokémon, and it evolved!"
3. Scyther got no love in Gen 1, so of course the sequel game with a Bug type Gym is going to include it. But Heracross? The thing is way too strong to be a 2nd Gym Leader battle. It's better for a Fighting type trainer.
I think you're right about Heracross, it would've been a good fit for Chuck's team.
sorryz but I went with Fearow in my gen 1 games mostly due to the fact it had a better moveset which included mirror move which while annoying to deal with if its on your opponent its a huge help if its on your side ... yes I chose Charmander, in the one playthrough I did use Nidoking because I caught a shiny nidoran male, I never evoed my Pikachu, I took Gyarados, and my final pokemon was Dragonite since it was worth it to spend hours in the safari zone to getz either a Dratini or Dragonair just so you can answer Lances Dragonite with one of your own ... that said I'm sure there will be a few nonpopular mon that I chose to take due to me either liking how the mon looked or its moves proved too useful to pass up ... for example when gen 3 introduced Absol I loved the mon so much that if it was in the later gen games I actively seeked it out and made it my team leader from gen 3 onwards
That’s funny because I didn’t have the ground rabbit type, I’m having trouble saying it’s name in that game, but in sword, I found a shiny one and named it Bugs Bunny
I have come to realise I fall within the small minority who doesn't really use the most used mons or the runner ups most of the time and I'm OK with that.
Cyndaquill is literally the greatest pokemon ever designed, also no Quagsire feels weird lmao, he is one of the funny low bst mons that are still great
I remember my first REAL sinnoh team (I don’t count my first playthrough where I just used infernape, dialga and I think some other random Pokémon I caught in my way) and I had infernape (lucky for me the fire starter is my fav in that gen) floatzel, gliscor, roserade yanmega and weavile I stopped using box legends pretty early on so giratina hit the bench I feel like my team was pretty unique and tbh besides the fire type problem I don’t think it’s that bad it’s just that the popular Pokémon can be caught pretty easily early on so people just stick to it
1:35 they asked the same audience twice, ofc they are probably going to match opinions
Bro i thought gardevoirs face was that way too 🤣
Wow, my gen 9 team could not have looked more different! I mean, I guess it technically could have, since it had Tinkaton, but with Meowscarada settling for silver, my team was still 5/6 different.
Meowscarada, Tinkaton, Armarouge, Gengar (in-game trade), The Great Tusk & Cetitan
Honestly, the fact that so many of the Johto gym leaders didn't even use new Johto mons was ridiculous. Faulkner only having a Pidgey and Pidgeotto and no Hoothoot, Bugsy only having Kanto mons and no Spinarak, Ledyba, or Heracross, Whitney having Clefairy instead of Sentret, Morty not having a Mistreavus, (God the more I type the more I realize just how much of a shit show gen 2 was), Chuck not having Hitmontop, Jasmine not having Skarmory (I MEAN WHO ELSE FORGETS SKARMORY WAS EVEN INTRODUCED IN GEN 2) Pryce could have had a Swinub instead of a Seel (not even ice type), CLAIR... I mean FFS three Dragonair... WHY MAKE IT A DRAGON GYM??? God, and so many Johto mons being only available AFTER beating the game and IN KANTO. I mean, all of that, plus the shitty level curving... like wtf were they thinking?
The lack of grass types on peoples teams hurt to see 💀💔
I have my Pokemon legends arceus and it’s kinda close, my team was hisuian decidueye, hisuian zoroark, alpha kleavor, alpha garchomp, alpha lucario and a hisuian arcanine