Cheapest super computer in the world أرخص سوبر كمبيوتر في العالم
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تمت اضافة ترجمة عربية محترفة الى الفيديو, بامكانك مشاهدة الترجمة بعد تشغيلها بالنقر على شكل المربع الصغير الموجود الي الاسفل من اليمين و اختيار اللغة العربية.
This super computer was built by a Japanese university professor , its built using ordinary computer parts that you can find in any computer shop every where , and what is very special about this computer is that its very cheap compared to other super computers around the world ,computers owned by governments and big corporations that coasts around 1.2 bil$ each ,this one coast only $420000 ,and it broke the world record of performance ( calculations per second ) compared to the other extremely expensive super computers.
أرخص جهاز سوبر كمبيوتر في العالم , قام ببنائه بروفيسور في احدى الجامعات اليابانية,و قام ببنائه باستخدام قطع الكمبيوتر العادية المتوفرة في اي محل للكمبيوتر مما جعل بالامكان بنائه بكلفة زهيدة مقارنة مع الاجهزة العملاقة الاخرى في العالم ,و التي يصل احداها الى مليار و مئتي مليون دولار , لقد كلف هذا الكمبيوترما يساوي 420الف دولار فقط ,و قد قام هذا الكمبيوتر بتحطيم الرقم القياسي العالمي من حيث عدد العمليات في الثانية التي يمكنه اجرائها .
This is more like a cluster computer instead of a supercomputer. You can make something like this if you get Debian along with MP on each node.
EMR3 C4N 0K5UM I suppose, but that still means they can boast that they use “distributed computing” and “parallelization” (thru the GPUs) like every other supercomputer
Can I buy this? I want to play GTA 3 on medium graphics
+Nils Moberg if you have $400K , then you can buy it ;)
***** lol easypeasy
Nils Moberg lol
you can't play gta in any super computer in the world their architecture is not designed for gta. They can process huge calculations using parallel computing.
@Виктор Хуго Алварез Дамaссено www.quora.com/Can-you-play-video-games-on-a-supercomputer-Since-they-have-so-much-computing-power-and-RAM-how-many-instances-of-a-high-end-game-can-run-on-it
Especially the cooling system is made from cheap parts :-)
Jokes apart, it's amazing! Wonderful engineering.
i totally agree
im planning on building this pc. Can it run minesweeper?
why dont you try it your self and tell us what happens
is this a trick question....
***** no , im just trying to loose you some how ,
my answer was as serious as your question
***** .
I tried and all system crashed
This is very creative! Most likely in several years later we can build our own super computer in the garage :D
i should have put a note with a big font " silly jokes is not allowed here " this have been asked 400 times or more
let me see if i get this right. some chinese guy bought 700 Xboxes, put them together and won a nobel prize? Who would have thought
3:35 "The important thing, then, is not just building a computer, but understanding what research it will be used for." - This is indeed the secret sauce of computer science.
The SLI GPU's are very efficient for floating point operations and paralell tasks, the Computing industry are enfocating this configuration to accelerate those kind of tasks ;)
and rendering hentai.
the main problem with this is the bandwidth between each module and thats the only reason hes not getting as high calculations per sec as it seems like it would be, i know for a fact that all of the high end cards he has do at least 300gflops each so if you multiply it out in theory he should have 10-20+ tflops but his internal network is what is slowing the whole thing down, it has the potential to be much better but it needs a stronger foundation.
love the cooling system xD
yeah
Very cool. It's exciting to think that my personal computer will be this powerful in 20 years. That is mind blowing.
For me it looks like a Bit Mining Farm -.-
lol , you are right ,its really similar
Professor : "hey dean can I get a raise?"
Dean : "no"
(long awkward pause)
Dean : "can I do anything else for you?"
Professor : "so.. I really need a .. um... Super Computer."
Dean : "why do you need one"
Professor : "science"
Dean : "how much would that cost?"
Professor : "a little under a half million"
Dean : "are you sure you really need one this big"
Professor ; "yeah"
Dean : "why"
Professor : "for complex science and stuff you really wouldn't understand"
Dean : "fine, I'll make room in the budget"
Professor : (whispers)"sweet"
Dean : "what was that"
Professor : "nothing, nothing"
This is pretty cool. Makes me wonder if I could even build a super compter.
i guess its possible ,
yes you are right , this one is amazing ,
can this Supercomputer be compared with Parallella SoC of the same cost??
@Cubalisk
GTX 580s They hadnt even developed the Gtx 480 at that time. Probably Gtx 295s or Gtx 260s
intriguing idea. wish i had the space and lots of old equipment to experiment
It is always nice to see someone put people who spout their computer specs and think it means something in their place.
Good work. It good to see what one man can do. It quite achievement. Thank you for sharing it with us. Wish you success your other future projects.
Great, now any one can build super computers
YES! I have been bargain hunting for supercomputers everywhere! this video has really helped me with my price range!
Nice engineering but it has a huge resource footprint.
A Cray CX1 could perform this and take just up small room besides your desk.
well , maybe this is possible now since time has passed and technology advanced a lot , but any way , the main point here is the coast
***** I consider this as an engineering feat. I mean no disrespect. A single supercomputer can replace a server farm, it is environmentally more friendly. Some even cool themselves by pumping heat in building environment as an energy saving source.
Mike Cimerian hmmmm , good point
I love Japan!! Greetings from Austria. :)
excellent, this would be my garage if i had unlimited play doe;) Would this be considered a form of distributed computing via network? or clustering, apologies if that is a tard question but i am trying to set up my own video render farm, and wonder how close this technology is to SETI application or folding at home and how these differ ? thnx for your time,
Love it.. all those house hold fans in the middle of the room for circulation! Classic!
Sli is for graphics speed and sharing the frame rate burden
but they are using those cards for CUDA/STREAM.
the SLI bridge isnt required to use multi gpu on a system for that.
@mr2000jp Yea, but the operating cost (electricity bill) for a supercomputer built from low-end parts would be significantly higher than one built from the latest consumer-grade parts available.
@mr2000jp no hes trying to say that the cards he was using were basically the most high end, expensive, and top of the line consumer edition cards at the time
It depends on why type of gaming you want.
A super computer could be used for LAN type gaming were people use a standard PC for access.
But this is unlikely to happen though.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG I LOVE THE FANS!!!! that's so funny. "What? Cooling the CPU? No way, I use fans"
Health and safety would have a birthday in there lol
Gordon Bell prize winner, a work that shows that supercomputing will radically change in the near future, and at the same time, programming paradigma.
In answer to all your questions:
1. It doesn't blend.
2. It guess it probably can run Crysis at max settings. Just.
3. It can play minesweeper. That isn't a problem.
4. He has probably over-clocked a few bits and pieces, since this would keep the price down, which was the goal.
A question.... Theoretically is there a cut off point in which either the current software or hardware configuration would be unable to accommodate any further addition of aggregated hardware? I respect your ingenuity sir and thank you for once again proving the concept that the most money does not always win. Solid innovation (in my opinion) will always be a main constituent for the progress of mankind. Thank you for demonstrating it.
The USAF built a cluster for specific software with PS3's which did what they needed extremely well and extremely effective. The used it for the CPU specifically.
"this super computer was built by a Japanese university professor". No, he lead the development team. He didn't built it by himself so dont give him all the credit there.
But this is a brilliant project for the students, both IT and astrophysics students can work on it. It might even be usefull for calculating structural properties or other things.
So for them to break the world record in calculation per second with a "cheap" supercomputer is a job well done.
You can see a bank of A/C units above the rack behind the guy at one point in the video. Pretty sure the fans are just there to circulate cool air.
I wonder why they did not use SLi or Crossfire bridges to join the graphics cards together for even more performance?
Technigeek, I see you read and respond to people's comments here so I have a question for which I hope you can answer for me, right now, the X99 chipset that was released is highly expensive given the cost of the supporting cpu's and memory, however, there do exist much older (and therefore, cheaper) solutions. In this video I noticed that there were in fact what appear to be mATX boards sitting side by side with cheap fans blowing air on them (quite effective I'm sure as it reduces the need for central A/C). Now, I own a Rampage III Gene by ASUS (also mATX and much cheaper than X99 and close in specs) that I managed to get operating beyond it's limits since it's using technology it was never meant to, specifically, an X5690 server CPU as well as 48 GB ECC memory, which is double it's specified maximum capacity. By itself this is capable of at least a teraflops in performance, would a large collection of these be more effective than the setup shown in the video, 1, and 2, would it cost less???
David Johnson it seems like you have some really nice hardware here ,
you have to put in mind that this super computer was made in 2008-2009 , and the cheapest hardware at that time was the gtx9800 ,and it was quite powerful , but silicon industry is moving very fast lately , this gpu nowadays is not that powerful ,and the same performance could be achieved by a 5 watt chip made by nvidia , the K1 ,the 9800 gpu consumes 240w at its peak , i think this is the main problem now , power consumption , and its part of the coast now ,
to answer your question i need to know what GPU you are using ,the gpu processing performance exceeds the cpu performance hundreds of times and thats what was used in this super computer ,
the gpu price is what gives the final idea of the total cost of making a supercomputer out of it ,
one thing you need to know , is that big companies make hardware for the supercomputers around the world , and sell it to governments and institutions for huge amounts of money , we are talking about billions here , which makes the cost of each piece thousands of dollars , not like the cpus and gpus we buy for few hundreds of dollars from the market , while the performance are quite similar , the big thing for this computer here is that its made out of parts from the market , and not even new part , from the latest releases , no , they used older parts that people had lost interest in, and is being sold for a fraction of its release date price , second , the software , companies make it and sell it to governments for millions of dollars , while this supercomputer uses free linux OS and they programmed their own extra extensions , which reduced the cost too ,
to sum it up all in few words , they succeeded in making a super cheap super computer by not buying it from companies ,and they built it by them selves using hardware that usually gets thrown in junkyards ,
you can build a supercomputer by your self using any hardware that you can get cheap ,and exceeding the performance to the one in the video is not impossible , depends on your budget ,
most modern operative systems such as windows/linux can make a supercomputer to work slower than a 486 with DOS in the '90s, do they use their own? They should, or it would only be useful as fileserver or to watch youtube videos.
also this type of a supercomputer would be very useful to us in countries like india,, where we can build up a amazing & low cost solution like ur supercomputer made of cpu parts,, but our govt imposes taxes on pc parts & prices are mostly controlled by dealers & computer parts are comparitively costlier in our country,, compared to others,,, still very good solution,,,,
best of luck,, for building your next supercomputer.... greetings from mumbai,,, india,,,
I love computers, but I have to say with honesty that the challenge in computers is not linking tons of them together... that doesnt actually take as much talent as you would think... but the real challenge is improving computers on the microprocessor level.
I also think that its not good to judge a machine by "price per performance" but rather, a better judgement is performance per energy(in watts) input.
do you think it could be used to recompile satellite images to correct for atmospheric phenomena like clouds, and "Guess" what is under them.
what type of cabling are you using to connect them?
Not only that, super computer like MAX-5 (CIA headquarter super computer) also can perform a "password cracking" sequences, home PC need a 100 years using brute-force method for knowing the secret code, meanwhile super computer can do a same task for only few seconds.
@ChipsAhoyCA what about Ultra x3 1600w
You guys should make an open source plan for the cheapest scalable super computer so that people and less fortunate schools can build them.
I'm looking into building something on a smaller scale (maybe with Raspberry PI's) and I was planning on using CAT5 since it supports speeds up to 1000Mbps. Are you saying if you upgraded your cabling to CAT5 you wouldn't have an increase in processing power?
hey professor mr2000jp, so did u people create the software used for collating and combining the performance of all the individual pc ? and how do u start it ? do u start each individual pc by itself or do u use ? wakeup through lan feature available on some motherboards.... ? or is it always on 24X7 ? also when do u plan to update it or its estimated life span ? also one more thing ... can u add new hardware to increase it performance ? like can u add 100 more to 760 gpu? without modification
What about memory error correction? Consumer grade hardware doesn't have them. So how do you manage that?
a sneeze with great amount of saliva could kill the process :))
That be cool if I could wire 10 old PCs like P4s and used it on windows 7 to play games.
@googlenauta It broke the n-body problem solving speed, even when compared to the speed reached wihen solving at the fastest supercomputers like BlueGen IBM, Jaguar or Tianhe-1A. This is not a trivial work. It also means that anybody, everybody might apply same ideas and techniques to build effective "supercomputers" at home, school and university at an affordable cost.
I work on a project for the U.S. Air Force and we linked 1760 Playstation 3's together to build an array called CONDOR, and thats what we do, but your design is much, much better, and cheaper,what if you swapped 295 gtx's in SLI for GTX 580's you would probably need new power supplies, but it would be cool to try in simulation. Also is your final LAN copper or Glass, and what is the bus speed Gb/s or Tb/s. I thought what we were doing with PS3's was cool. You got us beat on the cool meter ;-)
wow nice to hear that,,, considering that 9800GTX ! series are end of line,,,, it would be difficult to find them,, nowadays but may be if u can use a motherboard like the some having VIRTU MVP which are capable of running two different combinations of gpu like amd & nvidia,, maybe in future this would be a good idea,,, or two somehow integrate this idea/technology in ur future softwares,,,, would be helpful it will allow old hardware as well as new hardware gpu to coexist without problems,,,,
I would imagine that it's because of how SLI works and it's a lot more efficient to tap into each GPU independently for a combination, rather than trying to use SLI. SLI doesn't double your GPU's ability, after all. I have seen benchmarks that show an 80-100% improvement, but on average, you're just not doubling.
I would guess that he has a way of tapping into each of them independently that's more efficient than using SLI.
The interviewer sounds kinda like the inbuilt voice of windows, It's like he's never heard the word before in his entire life.
Hi Sir,
Could you give the link on its technical documentation
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Sid
Nvidia often uses similar GPUs in Ge-Force products as with their Quadro line, and is sometimes possible to trick software into thinking it is using a similar Quadro product, as long as you are careful to see how it wants to route its calculations. The advantage being Ge-Force cards are wicked cheap.
I actually think it is very enjoyable to have debates on any form of internet community such as youtube. As long as it doesnt turn ignorant however.
supercomputer basically were use to render animation, doing a heavy task such as visualize dynamic particle and much more, this computer are the reason why many hollywood movie can produce a stunning CGi graphic least than a year! so we can enjoy alot of amazing 3d animation every year
the main uses of supercomputers is simulation simulating everything they can photons ,particles, fluids every thing needs simulation in order to understand its mean when you simulate that you can than play with it anyway you want bend the physics every way you can and thats where it gets real fun.
um- no. those are Nivida GPUs manufactured by MSI. one of those cards costs in the ball park of $300, and their running SLI too. the mother board probably costs another $200, with at least a $200 for the CPU (the cooler looks to be an intel stock heatsink) and $100 in ram. so,putting all that together, about $1100. with a PSU, HDD and case, your looking at $1400. it'd be a freaking beastly computer though.
gpus can be used for many types of processing, they are not relegated to graphics alone. perhaps you have heard of folding at home, a way to lend processing power to large projects on your own, there are versions that can make use of graphic processors to boost processing. they are only called gpus because that is what they are designed for, they are still just as functional as cpus for complex processing, thus allowing you to add more procs to a server farm.
it looked like they were using 200 series gtx's, probably on dual core cpu's. i wonder how few of modern gpu's and cpu's it would take to equal the power. less than a quarter maybe?
Ok, but where can I see the electrical map of this computer in order that I can do mine also, please ?
sir hamada i respect you !
GPGPU Massive Parallel power. Very smart. I was looking into getting a few Intel Xeon Phi to test out last week as part of testing initiative. Seems to be less porting work than CUDA. But new technology never ends up less work.
That actually depends mostly on your internet speed though... Now once buffered you could have about a million videos playing at once. :P
1:45 they're not kidding when they talk about using commodity hardware.
Are they using like SETI@HOME, or other projects? :)
If you take a look at 1:08 you will clearly see that they are using MSI branded cards. Quadro's are made by nvidia themself, and sold under the nvidia brand. Infact, these are normal "gaming" graphic cards.
A super computer does not work in the same way as a normal PC and you would not even be able to use it for gaming.
wow I didn't notice the lack of the bridge/brace connection between graphics cards until I read this comment. tuu-shay.
@pauliazz94 Its called a joke, i saw the same video as you did bro and I know there weren't Xboxes and that he was not chinese. And just for your information, Xboxes have GPU's as well. Peace
I use to build super computers, then I took an arrow to the knee.
So windows will pretty much fail if I mix and match amd and nvidia cards on the same computer?
if i get one of these...ill never have to wait for a RUclips video to buffer again! (wow that's all i could think of?)
right but the latency between each system is much more than a single board. while it can render or simulate large thing by doing a large number of calculations real time work such as java would be slower as it would take longer for the information to be handled.
That is a state of the art cooling system there.
+Anthony Palumbo simple and cheap but works
Technigeek spends 420k$ on old gpus and cant spend 4k$ on proper cooling.
@9b5as FLOPS are not measured in this way. The number shown here is the average number of FLOPS per core. So the computing power is roughly 1 TFLOPS x 10,000+ cores verses your 1.27 TFLOPS x 1580 cores for $133,000 less.
They could get more power if they spent a little more on after market CPU heat sinks. They could easily over clock each processor at least .7 GHZ more.
Did you know that this project was features in nVidia's CEO Jen Hsun Huang's talk during the recent HPC conference? Well done to them who managed to build this.
@MrRhexx They are not Xboxes, they just computers put together from computer components available to consumers like you and I. The hardware has so much advancements and increase in performance in such short time that building a supercomputer has become as easy as building a shed in your backyard, provided that you have the time, money, and knowledge to do so.
Can anyone share more about the physical set up and designing the software used to co-ordinate the several computers? As I hoped to used the knowledge mixed with games technology and AI to create something grand in due time of course.
As I think we all need to learn this knowledge as what is said about innovation is completely true.
well , the hardware setup is extremely simple , this isnt the hard part at all, all you need is as many computers you can get with good vga cards , connect them all together using wire network using hub switches , and make one of them the master that you will use as a control center , the software setup is the hard part , you need to find the right linux distribution for your need and install it to the master and let the others boot from lan from the master pc , and here you start your journey with the software polishing and tweaking
***** are there no other free alternative to Linux? As this can be a really specialist field of programming depending on what you what to do; my idea was to have a virtual world self regulation on a supercomputer- yet at the moment I am unsure how to go about such an idea.
Kitty Rocoa actually there is , there is freebsd , but it is also a platform for specialists , not for common users , and about your idea im sure you need to be a specialist and good experience of coding to be able to make it , so if you are not one you'd better find some one to make it for you , and im telling you this will coast a lot since programmers are not cheap
hopefully next year ill begin a software engineering degree.
oh , thats good to hear , i wish you best of luck , i suggest you watch eli the computer guy daily blob , you will learn a lot if you are willing to get into the industry , you will find his channel on youtube
They made Media Center PC's? Didn't OEM companies make them like Dell and HP?
@kendoman96 the CPU is totally not what you want. Modern graphics cards have far more processing power than CPUs. You need to have lots of threads running the same code to take advantage of this power, but this is not a showstopping limitation. He put two fast graphics cards in every motherboard for a reason.
I made a super computer by connecting the nerdiest asians in my school into one cluster.
Yes, they have a hidden gigabit port behind their necks.
Can it run solitaire, mines sweeper and Arma III posibly even Bf4
If nvidia or ATI created software support and Drivers or firmware to work in tandem better than just cross linking the processors. the Sli setup could function just like what this computer ninja is doing. Im surprised they haven't done it. Then there would be no need for that silly link cable it would be all done in the BIOS.
If u want to tell us about the power of this comp, then no need to tell the no. of calculations it can do per second, just tell us the amount of frame it generates in CRYSIS 2 on max settings
It probably only eats slightly more power then your typical super computer would. Its even possible that it eats less. Many of todays supercomputers are basiclly the same thing as this in a more compact package.
It can be hard to make good videos but this is cool! Thanks for posting it... I started to do videos too, but never know if I can measure up to the better stuff out there lol!
LOL at the cooling system
am i seeing dual 470's but has no SLI cable bridge?
throw in windows 7 and use all the processors and graphics cards in sli/crossfire along with all that ram jeezus it would make a nice gameing pc :D
windows 7 cant handle all those cpu's and games cant handle all those graphics cards , so it wont work
I know that but its just a funny idea just to make others laugh at the thought of it
deven thompson its ok then if so :)
:D
So like, if i play WoW on this computer. I should be able to run all settings at max?
This is a supercomputer because it combines the power of several thousand normal computers. The reason for all of the graphics cards is for the mathematical and spacial calculations relating to physics.
Why are they using nVidia cards for a supercomputer? You can get more calculations done on an ATI card, thus the reason why they are used more in Bitcoin mining.
@Jesse Soto:
That depends on master node but I guess no it cant play minecraft as minecraft isn't made for a Beowulf cluster
No it wont.
BFL minirig is a ASIC designed to make certain cryptographic calculations and only those. Im sure physical calculations are not made of SHA256 operations.